CATTLE FENCING IDEAS FOR YOUR FARM/RANCH
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Today's vlog has us up in southwest Virginia to visit my stepfather's small cattle operation. We will visit the "ranch" get a bit of insight into fencing plans for our property and check out the cows. Come on along and have some fun with me on a beautiful farm in Southwest Virginia
Bro, your videos are awesome. I'm not even a farmer, but I'm pretty sure if I keep watching you're going to turn me into one. Thanks for your time in making these videos!
Thank you for the fence stock been very timely for me. Enjoyed your demeanor and technical info.
The 58, 77, and 81 corridor areas are beautiful country. I always enjoy traveling up that direction.
"Great Video" That homesteader did a nice job on his fencing. Those beef looked very relaxed. Must be the view, Grass everywhere rolling hills and beautiful trees. Doesn't get any better.
High tensile electric is definitely the way to go! I re-fenced my farm with it & haven't had any problems,wonna make sure you put tension springs in the fence so that if a tree falls on it it won't snap or break the wire, love watching your videos! Keep up the good work stonyridge!
Thanks man...good info to know..and I'll keep the videos rolling!
love all these video's. Really informative and you've got a great attitude.
Glad to hear Mrs. Stoney is ok! Looks like its time to turn the Taco into a ranch truck now. Put a flat bed on and good stout grill guard and good to go!!
Beautiful ranch Josh
Great video, very informative!!
Around here some people use metal pipe for corner braces/supports. Spent a summer in high school painting pipe fence for a local cattle farmer. We used to take the bucket on the front of his tractor and press the pipe in the ground. Made it pretty easy.
Cool thanks for the info buddy
I had the high tensile just like in the video. It was great for horses and gentle cattle, however my neighbor had some wild cattle that ran through and destroyed the fence when he tried to pen them. I then bought a few extra steers to fatten and these turned out to be wild and the same thing happened to me. I now converted to woven wire and have not had a problem containing or penning the wild ones.
Yup, we have a 4 feet electrified fence, the neighbor’s cows jumped in our backyard 2 days ago and once again today. I’m done with electric fences.
Most definietly would use hi tensile. Its awesome stuff and super easy to keep up with. Kind of a win win when it comes to fencing in my opnion.
Right on thanks for the comment buddy
I'm just buying one cow and her calf but this helped me 100%. Not another video like it. Thank you.
As a retired cow calf owner there is only one type of fencing to use and that’s high tensile fencing,easy to tighten and repair. Ran miles of this type of fencing.😎
Im pretty sure I've been near this farm. Good Videos see them almost everyday 👌
Its awesome stuff and super easy to keep up with.
We are just starting out and I will be starting to clear land for pasture the end of this winter. The fencing is going to be quite a job.
awesome....check out some of our land clearing projects on the channel...we're in process of clearing nearly 55 more acres!
👍🏻, im fixing to get some cows soon, I’m getting 4acres clear and going to put up maybe a 5 string fence. I just build a 20/20 barn. I think I’m going to start off with just 2 for now no more then 5 total.
J j601 Hi good morning
Thanks brother for the info, looking at starting my first cattle operation on our land.
Boot Hill Ranch Idaho Hi how are you
I've been watching your channel for a while and I've been learning stuff from you I just bought me a 94 Acres and I still watching it learn how to do things keep up the good work I'm going to keep watching thanks for sharing everything sorry about your wife truck
Thanks Man!
Great video Josh
The step dad has a nice farm as well nice black Angus , looks like he might have red basalt soil ?. Fencing yep I just finished about 2 miles of sheep netting . Glad that big job is done . I run White dorper they are nice and quick for cash turn around much quicker for cash turn around than cattle.
Yep good ol red clay up there....thanks for the cow tip (get it)
I really enjoy your videos. I recently(September this year)bought a very small 11 acre farm. I’m not as far along as you are with the work on my farm. My farm was used by the previous owner(allowed the farm to go unkept for years)for horses and beefalo. All the fencing is in place but, I’ve got a lot of downed trees on it as well. Also, my pastures are overgrown with weeds. My project for next spring is goats and to start getting my largest pasture turned over to begin hay. Keep up the great work.
Thanks
Hi.... Thank you 🎥👍👍👍
Good video. I live in north west Rockingham co. Your my kind of people
Once again great informative video! Keep the good work!!
Yes sir Thanks
I'm looking into fence options too. Our last place I put in woven wire fence but we are going with high tensile electric fence this time. Just the chore of weeding a woven wire fence is enough to make me not want to use it again as my primary perimeter fence. And if you don't keep it trimmed, vines and brush tend to pull it down. It has it's place but we will do high tensile next time. New Zealand is known for their high tensile fence so you might want to check out some of their videos. They don't put line posts in every 8-12 feet like we do here. They go 100 or so and then use spacers between. That can save a bunch of money on fencing. It also helps cut down on labor at my place since we have such rocky soil. Driving 1 post every 100 feet will save us a lot of labor vs. every 8-12. Keep up the hard work and great videos!
Thanks, I live in Rhode island USA, am thinking to start a farm in Africa soon so thanks for the video
Which part of Africa do u plan to start ur farm
Love your channel. That farm looks like God’s country. My goal is someday to have a small farm near there. Me nor the missus are city people but yet are stuck for a few more yrs. till then i will watch, learn and enjoy your channel.
A woven wire fence isn’t necessarily high maintenance. That specific fence gets lots of stress of cattle pushing on it since it’s used as the catch pen and used to separate calves from their mammas. I wouldn’t recommend the high tensile fence for a catch pen. Cattle under stress need a corral made much stronger. A welded pipe corral might be expensive and lots of work but it will save you many headaches down the road.
Arms Family Homestead I️ agree with Daniel if you are going to build a catch pen I️ would you pipe fence for it so you don’t have to worry about wear and tear as much. We use old oil pipe that we made into a catch pen or we call it the sick pen
@@onfarm6521 True. My dad used to say that spooked Holsteins would try to jump a fence, but the Herefords would just plow it down chasing whatever tried to spook them. LOL We can laugh about it now. But it caused so much work. Speaking of work. He said his workhorses would lean on the fence to get the grass that was greener on the other side. (Enter the Allis Chalmers of my youthful days.)
1200lb cow will drink between 8-9 gallons of water on a day when it’s 50 degrees out so I’d guess those calves would drink a few gallons depending on temperature. Hope that helps Stony Ridge Farmer!
Nice! Thanks for the info man!
Agreed. I looked it up and was stunned by the amounts. I think it must have been in dry climates where there wasn't a lot of lush grass like we have here. (Also, having access to a creek can make it hard to guess.) They said 30-50 gallons for a cow and around 10 for a calf. Can you imagine how much water that would take for a dairy herd? When I was in around first grade, it was my job to fill the cow tank. I'd have known if it took that much in the winter after the creek froze over solid.
You would not want high tensel for your working lot they will squeeze in between the wire and get out I would suggest board or guard rail for the lot fence
Love that Virginia. Out West we use about 30-35 acres per cow. All areas are different. It's good to keep your creek areas unmolested. It keeps a clean watershed.
Interesting to see how differently things are done in different parts of the country. Around my area, almost everyone uses 5 strands of barbed wire for cattle. I used 5 strands of 4 point on my fence, but my parents have always used 2 point and haven't had any issues. I might do 2 point on the rest of my pasture, the 4 point is just a royal pain to put up. For posts, I did a mixture of hedge and t-posts. 5 t-posts, 1 hedge post, 5 t-posts, 1 hedge post, etc. If I was doing all wood posts, I would definitely drive them in. Tamping around wood posts takes forever. Oh and I only did one set of braces on my corners and gates. I don't see two sets very often around here. I used 9ft long hedge posts for the corner and brace post and buried them 4.5ft. They are spaced about 10ft apart with a piece of 2.5" pipe between them and a diagonal wire and crank tensioner pulling them tight. We'll see how well they hold up over time.
I payed close attention to the fencing we passed as we drove cross country a few months ago...I guess it depends on how much of a "tree load" you can expect too
If the fence is not high-tensile, it doesn't need the extra set of bracing.
Farm and cattle are beautiful!
Thanks Cindy
We run 5 strands of barbed wire on our ranch and our farm. We use Gaucho 15.5 Ga. 4 pt. Most of our neighboring farmers prefer it over the traditional 12.5 Ga. as well. I am enjoying seeing all of your progress! Keep up the hard work!
Good to know...I will save ur comment for future reference when I start buying wire
I would suggest when you build corrals and holding facilities You will might wanna use either wood or metal . Try not to have any wire where the animals will be confined for an extended period of time . Tbh , the portable corral panels are hard to beat , easy to put up and can be quickly moved or reconfigured to ur specific requirements . I have a bandmill and a treatment company local so i would use wood . For one reason or another cattle just like to push and shove on each other and sooner or later they shove one another into wire fencing and make it look crap . Best of luck with whatever you choose .
Beautiful farm
One thing ive found with fencing is it is a continuous battle, no amount of foresight or future planning can account for the hassle u will eventually run into. But there is hope and reward in it. Like seeing all tight strands of high tinsel and the tick tick tick of the electric. Bit it does make a pop when u touch it and i have so i wish u luck and hope u well
They might not be as practical as black angus or Hereford, but I just LOVE highlands!
I went with Hi tensil, 4 wire, all 4 hot, steel post every 20 ft., its just the best!
darrylmueller Hi Darry , good morning
Something i Learned while working on a Dairy Farm for
maximum grass production re seed for English grass every 8 years.
I live in New Zealand.
first time viewer, i loved your intro/jingle for the video! very cute, most people would've overdone it and made it cringey. had to comment!
Awesome! Thanks!
Nice sharing friend 💕
Thanks for visiting
1 more real good vid thank you
rick van Hi Rick , how are you
I grew up in SW VA never heard of a ranch in VA unless a transplant came in and used ranch instead of farm. instead of a self tapping screw put a small weld bead the gates today are cheap and already rust out easily do less holes you have better off you are. the pyramid stack can go either way sometimes it can make the hay sweat and not breathe and make it rank. those hills can be used for hay you just have to be careful those hills you had were a treat compared to the ones we had. woven wire isn't high maintenance that woven wire fence was not out up correctly. I use ht and woven wire. if you use cheap wire you'll have sag issue. I'm not being a butt but that is misinformation about fencing. I like the farm though and that you are trying to learn. I tend to keep 7 4x5 round bales minimum for each head I keep over winter. I had fencing and waterers put in from that program best thing ever the waterers are great hope y'all took advantage of it.
That sure is some pretty country. Glad to hear the missus is ok, (and the truck will be). A Mulie totaled my car up in Oregon years ago. It usually happens so fast there's no time to react at all.
Wouldn't have helped. The deer usually appear well within the stopping distance. Even near instantaneous reaction wouldn't prevent most deer collisions. That said, I'd rather hit a deer head on than swerve and hit a tree.
So the deer jumped out from the passenger side...and never even got out infront of the car...I think this new "crash prevention" technology is great...but I wonder what these vehicles will be like in 15 years...will we be disabling this technology as it begins to get quirky and break? Who knows right
I live on a ranch with hundreds of cows the best in my opinion is barbed wire so the cows most likely wont go threw but when they get old and rusty and your going to have to replace them so the cows wont start going threw because they not as sharp. The reason why electric isn't the best is because the cows will mess and find a way out trust me lol. Also be careful not the stab our poke our scratch by rusty barbed wire because you can get tentness so if you do get a tentness shot.
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So be care careful if you use barbed wire. Have a great day on your farms and ranches
tetanus doesnt actually have anything to do with rust. it just is bacteria that lives outside mainly in animal feces. rusty things have alot of surface area good for trapping the bacteria and are sharp which is good for piercing the skin and delivering the bacteria. so really any thing that can cut or poke you, especially outdoors, exposes you to tetanus. the more you know.
I remember clearly at 10yr helping dad put up our fencing, he was both a perfectionist, and cheap.
Folks are gone, I bought this old farm cause couldn't bare to see it sold off. The fence is 50yrs old, and it shows, only rarely do they get out.
fyi, 5 strand barbed wire
...once was a elec strand. Gone
Enjoyed the video and that looks like a beautiful farm. I do want to add though that that first cow at the beginning sounded like it had just chugged a Coke Zero. Lol
LOL
I love cable fences. Thinking about having a cable fence for horses but coated to prevent cuts with some stained wood for posts to match a barn.
I was thinking the same
Ok now that video was edited WELL! Look a you packing in the info! And its not so quickly given that we can't keep up! Good job and thanks for the info! All of that would have taken weeks of googling to find out!
I am in northern Alberta, Canada and I will be getting at least one miniature cow in the spring. (I'll have two as soon as I can. Cows are herd animals and I do think ethically, it's good to consider the "psychology" of your cows - they are happier if there are at least two of them. Hope that doesn't sound too odd. :) Anyway, there is a lot of brush around where I am, think shrubs that are 10 feet high, about an inch in diameter at near the ground. Since I am not a "professional" farmer but basically want milk cows for personal use and to sell the calves, I am wondering if a fence with metal stakes about 8 feet long (can't remember what they are called) and wattle for fencing would work. I'd use metal because I don't want anything to rot in the ground, but the sticks for wattle would be off the ground and would presumably last some time and be easily replaceable. Is a wattle fence strong enough for miniature cows? (mini's are about 48 inches high or smaller. Interestingly, since you are a beef cow farmer, I saw a youtube video about a beef cow farmer who stopped raising regular sized cows completely and only raised miniature cattle for beef. He claimed pound for pound of beef, miniature cows were more cost effective in terms of how much feed produces how much beef. Certainly, for a hobby farmer, from what I've researched, there are so many advantages to having miniature cows. They eat less. They are more manageable. They make less milk but plenty of milk for you family since it is illegal to distribute raw milk (i.e. sell it your neighbours, etc.) They require less pasture than a big cow. They are easier on pasture as they weight less and they require less rigorous fencing. However, miniature jerseys, at least, are a bit of a speciality breed and so cost around $5000 Canadian dollars where I live. Prices are similar in the States.
Cattle impact can be MANAGED to be beneficial. For instance, creeks or streams with steep banks and/or undercut areas are going to erode even if there are no livestock anywhere around. The cattle could be bunched up and allowed to break those banks down, so flood waters don't erode the stream banks, but gently spread out over the gradual slope the cattle create. Then the cattle can be moved to the next section of creek. This is how the herds of wild herbivores interacted with streams and creeks - but they were not in the same place for very long.
We have to herd or fence our cattle and other livestock, to mimic the way they interacted with the land before we domesticated them - and keep them moo-ving. Then cattle will build soil fertility, and improve the stream banks and pond edges. Livestock are only 'destructive' when we interrupt their natural relationship with the land and the soil and the plants.
Been my dream to have my own little farm. Started looking at land to farm and live on. Not so easy in Massachusetts
move to Texas. We got Ted Cruz, cattle, oil, best brisket you will ever have, and theres so many different terrains and different opportunities. because its so big!!!
Love your vlog and trying to start my own farming operation. Where can one get information on federally funded grants for fencing to protect the watershed?
Start at your local USDA soil and water conservation....those are the folks that cut the checks....be advised.....you'll be disappointed in the ridiculous hoops and lack of good info.....they won't help you build a new fence...only improve or fence out the creeks on an old fence......the rumor that there is a pot of gold for farmers to get free help is just a rumor my friend! Foodie documentaries make it sound like the govt is writting a check to every man with more than 10 acres...not the case I assure you!
Don’t even try on something like that. Not even sure money like that is available to farmers and or the amount of hoops you’d have to jump through.
thanks for the tour
Ur very welcome
I hope everyone is ok after the buck decided to play tag with the truck! What happened to the buck? Does Game & Fish come get it and get the meat to needy family's like Alaska does with Moose? Hope they don't let it go to waste! Love the Vlog! Keep up the hard work!
Cheers!
I would say this time of year I pass a dead deer at least every 4 miles....the deer she hit was not consumable after this hit...I've never seen such a mess....so to answer your question they "go to waste" but often are such a small animal that they are crushed in the accident which renders the meat consumable anyhow
If the State is not paying for the damage, then the vehicle owner should at least get the deer, if they want it. (By the way, that should be 'needy families'. 'Family's' would mean something belonging to the family, like the family's home. Sorry you and the taxpayers got cheated on your education.)
Hey Josh can you possibly give us more information on the grants n Virginia for keeping cattle out of the water shed that you mention one of your videos. Or any other grants you are aware of to start a cattle ranch for farming. Thanks
look into lowline angus/American Aberdeen cattle or moderators when the time comes, there more efficient and will allow you to stock more per acre.
Cool thanks for the tip
@@StoneyRidgeFarmer we have some growing here in Arco Idaho... they have been grass raised and finished -NO GRAINS... and the marbling was AMAZING!!!!
That is awesome farm
Thansk Rich!
We use higher tension fence on the bandies and 5 wire two electrical wire on the rest of my property
Cool...thanks
I Love you audience behind you. They seem to be listening very closely. 2:00
Would like to see more videos about cows on your channel soon hopefully
If'n ya use proper sized corner posts, ya don't have to worry about leaning either and no need to "double up". Old railroad ties are best, or old phone poles. Not those 3" line posts what's pictured. Well, my opinion anyhow.
The best fence I’ve ever built was made from 2 7/8” drill stem, three bars, 18” spread, with 5/16 wire-rope cable. Will last 100 plus years.
How tall was it? Ours is 4 feet tall and the neighbor’s cows have jumped in, it’s electrified but it meant nothing to them. This has happened twice and now we have to replace the useless fence.
Electric is the way to go even if it's not high tensile and even if there is only one hot wire.
john carnall Hello John how are you
good video. lots of people just build what their granddad or neighbor used fifty or more years ago.
When you pound your post in drill a small pilot hole it will keep the post from splitting on the top and for a working area for cattle I would use woven wire 49 inch height or fence if panels they are about 17-20 a piece for a 16ft section I would not use high tensel for a working area I had it on one of my farms 7 strands all was hot cows and calves when pressed will go through it
Thanks for the tips...what size bit....and where in the post...center? 1/2 inch bit?
Stoney Ridge Farmer I live in south West Virginia and I mean drill a pilot hole in the dirt for a post from 5 1/2 to 8 inch post drill a 3 inch hole you can also rent the post drivers with the pilot hole auger
I recently installed 6500lnft of fence and the posts were the smoothest part. Step one, cut a rough point on each post with a chainsaw. Nothing fancy, just a long point. Step 2, use a tractor auger to drill a pilot hole. I made a cheap 3.5" bit that screams into the dirt because it's so small. This gives the post a path to follow. Step 3, use the bucket of the skid or tractor to drive the post into the hole. Piece of cake maybe 600 posts and only had problem with 3. Def take advandtage of NRCS money! Good luck.
Land. That's the ticket. Gotta have land. I love to hear cattle moo.
Me too!
My grandma has always had Angus and Simmental crosses.
I'd love to be able to buy my own farm someday. Sadly out of state and international buyers(and developers) have driven the farm prices in WA out of control. I've even looked at trying to develop a farm in my other home in SE AK, but with over 13 feet of rain a year, and large population of bear and wolves, everyone who has tried has failed. Someday though... Until then I will live vicariously through you channel and take notes for the future.
Just backpacked the Olympic and Ross lake up ur way! Beautiful country but surely harsh winters...my buddy just picked up 10 acres in Arlington...you are right expensive land!
Wow. That's RAIN. But there has to be something that fits with that environment that you could farm. Moose? Kidding aside... water buffalo might be a better choice. Have you considered livestock guardian dogs to keep livestock safe from predators? Depending on the local conditions, you would need at least a pair. Or more, but good LGDs can be a lifesaver, literally. In our area, bear and 65-73+ lb 'coyotes' that hunt in packs have been kept away from sheep, goats, and other stock with these dogs. It might be worth looking into.
Try Missouri before prices get high there too.
Cale Haug Hello Cale , how are you
cool video!
Stoney Ridge Farm lays better but these rolling hills are hard to beat for looks. Especially this time of year. Keep up the great work Josh. Might we see your mom make a cameo appearance?
Maybe sometime soon...maybe a cooking video! Or something to do with her dogs
here where I am St we use barb wire And t post or we may use what we call a hot wire with 3 rows
depending on weather & temperature generally fully grown cow can consume up to 30 gallons per day.
Great video
Thanks man
Great vid keepem comin :)
yes sir!
I would recommend 6 wire high tensile fence 2 wires hot its is by fair the best
I’m in Augusta County Virginia this looks a lot like home I wonder how far away he is I grew up in Rockbridge County.
this is Henry county va
Stoney Ridge farms in Bristol VA is about an hour from us. We are looking for a young donkey and were wondering if you sell them by chance? Thank you for the great video!
How many strands of high tensile is needed to keep beef cattle? Love your videos by the way
This is 9 strands I believe....we've been using net wire on our farm...providing a physical barrier
Hi! You guys ever find out how much a cow drinks water everyday? Because I live in California which is looking like one big *Roman* *Candle* chunk of fireworks on Live Television on the nightly news, I wondered if your *Electric* *Fence* Set-up could throw a spark and *catch* *fire* to your whole meadow in the middle of the night?
After hitting an 8 pointer here in Pennsylvania I wised up and bought a REAL front bumper, not the plastic and foam crap from government motors. I bought a replacement bumper from Ranch Hand, so next time I won't be replacing the transmission cooler and lines, and A-C cooler and turbo air cooler. Duramax motors just aren't worth the extra cost, they are a pain-in-the-ass to work on.
Wooooooo 😃
What kind of cattle you thinking about getting? Have you looked into Devon beef cattle? They're tought, low maintenance, and do really well as a breed standard grown and finished on grass. Look into them if you have time.
Will do thanks
Glad your wife is ok from the the deer crash. Would she like a ranch hand bumper on the front.. Are you on well water, or county water?
Well water for sure
bump a ranch hand
My wife's car goes in the body shop tomorrow for the same thing. I told her the next vehicle we bought her would be something big enough that I could put a "deer plow" across the front.
She did not enjoy my sense of humor. Lol
I hope Mrs Stoney Ridge is okay . I know how it is to hit a deer . Nothing ya cant do about it but learn from it . And my lesson is during the rut season is to drive a bit slower . 5 to 10 miles slower in areas where the woods are close to the road .
Agreed!
food for thought but when you do get cows josh get some purebred brangus cattle they are really pretty and will bring a pretty penny at market
Brandon Hagood .... lol a purebred BRANGUS cow .... Doesn't it take an Angus and a Brahma to get a BRANGUS ???
@@woodstocktrees8614 you can buy them at the market
just wondering what size you guys consider a farm a ranch because from my understanding a ranch is like a station in Australia but usually smaller cause you have too many people for big properties over here we would consider a farm a station after about 2,000 head of cattle or 5,000 sheep and probably in acres about 10,000 acres is a very small station most you'll find up north are close to a million acres with at least 15,000-20,000 head of breeders for cattle not to many sheep up north but on the northern bit of south Australia some stations have about 30,000-40,000 head of sheep that are breeders.
Thanks for making this video i know its old now but just wondering.
Farm: east of the mississippi river typically....ranch: western us
instead of replacing the bumper with a regular one, you should probably buy a steel bumper just in case this happens again, you look stylish and save money in the long run if it happens again : )
Meat tenderizer
very true
Nice farm
Awesome
Thanks buddy welcome to the channel!
What your farm will sound like!!!
No doubt...goodbye peace and quiet....hello ranch noises!!
You can save money by using 5-6 tpost for every wooden post.
Does he have to keep some mineral out all year? I don't know if i have to here in Kansas,but I try to always keep a block out for them.
Up here, in areas of Wisconsin, there is a shortage of selenium. We were advised to get the blocks that had it in for our horses when we were up in Washburn County. Not sure if they're needed for cattle, too.
I live in Australia and i'm sure all the rules and standards are different but aren't 8 strand fences a little over the top? We run two strand electric on our property and it works just fine.
cool
Approximately How many feet of wire did you use for this? And how big is the pasture?
Josh your better off to use pipe to build your corral or loading area because once built it is there cattle are rough on wire pens
Amen...I will do that for sure
Properly installed woven wire won't sage like that