Compressor Surge Analysis in Aspen HYSYS

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  • Surging is a phenomenon that damage centrifugal compressors. What is surging? what are the causes and effects of surging? How to avoid surging? What is stonewall or chock condition in compressor?
    In this video, you will find all the answers to the above questions. Then we will analyze the surge condition in Aspen HYSY and will see the compressor works within the surge line and stonewall line. In the end, you will learn different parameters tuning to avoid surging.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 38

  • @surajkarmali5742
    @surajkarmali5742 7 днів тому

    Your tutorial is very helpful sir

  • @majnoon_mechano
    @majnoon_mechano 3 роки тому +4

    Your Tutorials are very useful
    thank you very much of your effort

  • @MageshJohn
    @MageshJohn 2 роки тому

    Excellent work!

  • @OlusegunJ
    @OlusegunJ 2 роки тому +1

    Great tutorial.

  • @sw-qn1ky
    @sw-qn1ky Рік тому

    Thanks for your kind & useful lecture~

  • @rameshcheppali4353
    @rameshcheppali4353 5 місяців тому

    Very nice, topic.Well explained.Thanks for your presentation

  • @hosseinhassannia9326
    @hosseinhassannia9326 2 роки тому

    Great tutorial

  • @MusAbssiAbssi
    @MusAbssiAbssi 2 роки тому +1

    A Great video

  • @saiedmouloud9099
    @saiedmouloud9099 3 роки тому

    Very interesting. Thank's for this toturial

  • @aliasadi5833
    @aliasadi5833 Рік тому

    Thanks

  • @MajidKhan-mj3yh
    @MajidKhan-mj3yh Рік тому +1

    I am going to every tutorial and following it on Aspen. This is too early for a starter. Once I put speed and use curves, it says over specified. Secondly, it changes the curve data itself. I don't know why.
    Last but not the least, this is great contribution by you. Thanks a lot

    • @eduXinsight
      @eduXinsight  Рік тому

      You have to reset all the Cv parameters at the initial setpoint before each simulation run because it's dynamic so it will change and in real plant senerio it only happens at startup and shutdown. I hope it will help

  • @user-dw1rn8oh1d
    @user-dw1rn8oh1d 9 місяців тому

    Very informative and superbly made videos

  • @Aydar911
    @Aydar911 3 роки тому +1

    Does unisim has the surge analysis function?

  • @ivangaldi2950
    @ivangaldi2950 Місяць тому

    Hi , other than the shut down, is it possible to simulate also the start-up from an equalized pressure in the system (SOP)? Is it possible to provide IDLE1, IDLE 2, MGS ramp?

  • @akashbajpai1139
    @akashbajpai1139 Місяць тому

    but sir in the my company we are using air compressor for air separation plant where compressor has anti surge valve in the discharge line while cooler on the discharge side of commpressor , but in this video when you performed simulation there anti surge valve installed on the suction side , why ??

  • @nahinzulfiker
    @nahinzulfiker 8 місяців тому

    Can you the curve data for practice

  • @gouravchatterjee848
    @gouravchatterjee848 2 роки тому

    Sir thanks for the information.. But my data is not converging after certain point

  • @gassxy7841
    @gassxy7841 2 роки тому

    hello tks for what you are given us
    just i have a slit problem
    it writes
    the pressure flow solver failed to converge
    so if its possible give us the main file of you to comprae everything inside
    or help us with that problem
    we really appreciate that

  • @user-pj5mu2pq8h
    @user-pj5mu2pq8h 5 місяців тому

    Hii Brother Actually it is very nicely explained........
    But when I m implementing in my Aspen It shows the error of OVERSPECIFIED
    Please help me sort out this problem
    Thanks in advance

  • @behnamhashemi3329
    @behnamhashemi3329 9 місяців тому +1

    How did you know to manipulate hot bypass valve and not for example inlet or descharge valve or any other component?

    • @RajKumar-cc1se
      @RajKumar-cc1se 7 місяців тому

      Hot vapor bypass is provided for the system whose operating point lies close to surge line limit. In the above case v dint require hot vapor bypass as operating line is already away from surge line limit. Thats y he reduce the flow across hot vapor bypass

  • @kokasairamprasad9256
    @kokasairamprasad9256 2 роки тому

    Sir, I have tried simulating but not succeeded. Kindly help me simulate

  • @saisaipech
    @saisaipech 3 роки тому +1

    I would like to know how you obtained the compressor curve?

    • @eduXinsight
      @eduXinsight  3 роки тому +1

      This data is provided by the vendor

  • @mohamedal-rasheed9770
    @mohamedal-rasheed9770 2 роки тому

    When I run the case it says the compressor is over specified. And if I remove one of the inputs, I get a different value/result

    • @andreaservino6687
      @andreaservino6687 Рік тому

      I have the same problem, how did you solve it?

    • @andreaservino6687
      @andreaservino6687 Рік тому

      I tried the same, erasing the imposed pressure on compressor discharge stream, and now i get a different result. I think that what we got it's the discharge pressure that compressor can produce, for that rpm curve (imposed) and that flowrate (imposed). My opinion is that if we want 30 bar, we have to change either the flowrate or the rpm, please @eduX confirm. ( and thank you for this amazig tutorials :)) )

  • @istiaquerezaauyon1
    @istiaquerezaauyon1 Рік тому +2

    "The current flow rate is less than surge Flow.
    The pressure flow solver failed to converge.
    Try using the equation viewer to see where the problem is.
    Dynamic calculations stopped.
    Integration time 1.0125: Integrator Stopped at 1.0 minutes" - What does this mean ? I did everything you did , still the results aren't the same.

    • @MajidKhan-mj3yh
      @MajidKhan-mj3yh 3 місяці тому

      I am facing the same issue of integration failed at time 0

  • @libraprocessengineer
    @libraprocessengineer Рік тому

    Information

  • @juanperdomo1
    @juanperdomo1 Рік тому

    Dear Friend,
    The flow of the first scenario must not exceed the stonewall line. The flow is throttled and should follow that line by lowering the RPM. Best regards

    • @eduXinsight
      @eduXinsight  Рік тому

      Thanks for correction ☺️

    • @juanperdomo1
      @juanperdomo1 Рік тому

      @@eduXinsight Hi. This is probably a weakness in the software that could be communicated to its developers.
      The Stonewall line represents the maximum possible flow because it is shocked.
      Some simulators have similar errors when sonic velocity is reached in pipes and do not report that the flow is shocked. Regards

  • @nahinzulfiker
    @nahinzulfiker 7 місяців тому

    Can you please give curve data in excel