I learn something new about space every day. 365 times a year for more than 10 years Anton providing me with information. Let’s multiply.. 365 x 10 that’s 3,650 new things I’ve learned!
Just found your channel last week, Anton. Your work is fantastic and you make this extremely accessible for someone in a completely different intellectual field.
I actually thought of the final parsec problem as soon as this vid began. Not that it is significant to anyone but me, but it does demonstrate that I have learned at least one science fact watching Anton! So, thank you, wonderful Anton!
one thing you can say about astro physics that you can't say about most other sciences is that it's not stuck, it's always fluid and changes on a daily basis.
Lol. Lmao. They've been trying to prove their fudged math for over 50 years now and there's still not a single shred of evidence for it. If that isn't the definition of "being stuck" I don't know what is.
Amazing graphics again. That simulation in red is ravishing! Hard to comprehend the forces between 2 supermassive black holes, moving at mind boggling velocities, in close proximity. A truly terrifying location. Presumably, this situation is the core of colliding galaxies?
Am sure Anton has a database into which he logs the videos he produces, their topics, etc. When needed he does a database search for relevant videos to which he refers.
Uh, because his videos all cover various happenings in the field of astronomy, & the field of astronomy is always gathering more & more data which shed light on previous discoveries & questions that arose from said discoveries.
@jeremywright5036 I remember that, though don't think I subbed to his channel until he changed it. It's amazing that he seems to put out a new one everyday!
Black hole mergers are one of the most important phenomena in studying the formation of large-scale cosmic structures, including supermassive black holes at the centers of galaxies. Understanding this process not only helps decipher the origin and evolution of black holes, but also provides insight into how galaxies and the universe as a whole have formed and evolved over billions of years.
Ive seen recently that Pluto has been in a revoving dance with Charon at the outer edge of our solar system, i was always with Pluto, kept so beautifully in our solar system from so far away, because of Keiper Belt, thats most sensible thing ive heard for a long time, thank you
SWIFT is an amazing mission. I made my PhD thesis on it 12 years ago and it still rocks and provides super interesting scientific data. And it was launched on my birthday as a bonus. So cool.
That is interesting, maybe gravitation does not come from mass after all, maybe it's just emergent property. So, galaxies that expand into the void can go faster than light, but wherever galaxies have already expanded there is always a limitation of the speed in that area, like the dispersed atoms limit speed between themselves. Wow, never thought I would know this much from when I took astrophysics in the 80's.
on topic; can someone PLEASE EXPLAIN: if a singularity has (or theorized to have) 0 volume, HOW IS ANGULAR MOMENTUM CONSERVED IF IT'S A SPINNING BLACK HOLE (WHICH THEY PRETTY MUCH ALL ARE). that would mean as supernova collapses, spin, as radius approaches 0, approached infinity (impossible if c is highest speed possible) wouldn't it render an equilibrium with extremely high density (yet non-infinite) and extremely high spin
TIME/SPACE act "in-concert" as a 2-dimensional "grid". As Einstein speculated later in life, C is not the prevailing constant. In this "context" infinite acceleration is the terminal phase for "singularities", as they are converted to (forgive the convenience of the term) Dark Matter "entities"; while "elsewhere" a Star is born. Humans suffer from a (literally) terminal bias, in a relative, cyclical "time frame" measured in "units" of infinities.
As I understand it the theories that we have don't work on spinning black holes. Besides there are theories out there that don't have a singularity at the center so we're definitely not certain about that part.
My 1st thought it, how do 2 super massive BH's get into close orbit? I thought there was a lower limit to BH size where the strength eventually prevents them from getting close, bringing into question as to just how super massives come into being? Surely if, if that's incorrect, if the orbit is as close as implied, the tidal effects would be awesome as the 2 BH's spin towards light speed as they collide? And then we'd be seeing THOSE effects rather than just 'explosions' of energy. Funny how everything for which we struggle to find an explanation always somehow comes down to BH's or Dark Matter as cause.
It sometimes seems that way, but not always. Neutron stars, supernovae, and other exotic stellar mass objects, help to stir the pot quite a bit too. Especially the really large type 2 supernovae. They can trigger a whole chain of events in their immediate vicinity, and sometimes out to a fairly good distance beyond. If you look closely at star fields in our galaxy, you sometimes see curving chains of stars that appear very near to each other. Proper motion surveys and parallax measurements typically reveal that they are in fact, stellar neighbors. Further investigation then usually confirms that they are also of a similar age. It's been seen that these curved lines of stars delineate a portion of the massive circular shockwave of an ancient type 2 supernova impacting a molecular cloud, and then triggering the collapse of portions of the cloud into new stars. This scenario doesn't always create easily seen lines of stars, but sometimes it does. Fascinating stuff. Cheers.
Something that I forgot to address. As far as certain black hole mergers mergers are concerned, or rather their mathematically implied impossibility, the universe is notorious for sometimes saying, 'hold my beer', in a manner of speaking. Never and always, are two words that it's usually wise to steer clear of in this field. There are a few things that are etched in stone, but only a precious few.
@stargazer5784 The universe is nothing more than the expression of the law of averages and the law of very large numbers clashing. Anything remotely possible (even one in quintillions) _will_ happen somewhere. The questions are where, when, how often, and why? I find it is only a lack of imagination that produces impossibilities. That or thoughts based on fantasy rules that do not correlate with reality, like so many people have...
@@stargazer5784 I recently (few months perhaps) saw a video showing (I think from GAIA) how they found stars now widely separated that track back to being very close together in the past. The hypothesis was these were from a cloud that got 'shocked' into producing a whole bunch of stars & the shockwave started pushing them away to where we now see them. Kinda brought to mind a cosmic MacBeth scene - "“Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and cauldron bubble.”" A bubbling churning whirlpool of stars.
@@stargazer5784 I agree totally. The cosmology field (& some other physics fields) seem to be replete with a LOT of speculation presented as facts based on a structure they never question. To the science I was taught decades back, if you keep being surprised by what you find, if your limits keep getting broken by reality, your basic hypothesis is likely wrong & you need to go back to basics - not just invent magic forces & invisible particles to make your hypothesis work. I still have serious doubts about their 'pictures' of BH's - WAY too much trimming of noise to produce just the image they predicted for my liking. The signal is tiny compared to the noise so producing a pic & saying this is what we see in such certainty most people think they REALLY too a photo of a BH is nice PR but not really science. Another one is the Higgs - BOTH competing theories got the value wrong - SUSY & MV said it would be either 115 GeV or 140 GeV - the 2 experiments showing an anomaly at 126 GeV to my mind actually disprove both theories, not confirm them. Funny how important it was to find the Higgs but there's been almost zero mention of any new science coming now they supposedly DID find it. Instead they want a new, larger & more expensive collider. Which suggests to me they KNOW they didn't find the Higgs but it was lovely PR to prove the $$$Bn's for the LHCwas worth it. /scepticism
Do black holes have lagrange points? If two black holes are in binary, there must be a lagrange point between them. I wonder what on earth gathers in that location? And on those faces if the black hole, the event horizon must show a depression and on the far side a hill (mountain). A black hole tide. Terrifying.
Not necessarily. Black holes bend space itswlf and drag it around. At no point between them could you even choose to stay still without infinite thrusters.
What if hawking radiation isn't material coming out of a black hole but particles being ejected from a certain orbit or something but never actually fully get sucked in??
Hawking radiation isn't particles that escape from inside a black hole. Quantum vacuum fluctuations that occur just outside of the event horizon, fed by the black hole's intense gravity, result in the creation of particle/anti-particle pairs. When both particles fall into the black hole, energy/mass is conserved. When one falls in and one escapes, then mass is lost, albeit slowly.
I have to admit, this is a paper that means less blackholes are out there, this could be an odd ball but if we find more merging supermassive blackholes it does mean there are a lot less blackholes out there.
There are billions of black holes out there. Some the hearts of galaxies, others the remnants of dead stars. More are made every time a massive star dies, so like daily? Billions.
3 dimensionaly thinking about two spheres slightly overlapping like a simple two circle (and dimensional) venn diagram, gives you a saucer shape' I imagine like two magnets slowly nearing each other over a ferrocell/ferrolens, shows a countersync in the middle' that if seen in 3 dimensions' would probably look like a saucer. (3D thought again) With a line drawn through' from one side to the other, gives you relativistic jets at a slight S curve which is galactic scale larmor frequency' and could (I'm guessing here) by magnetic pressure mediation' send most of the atomic hydrogen towards the galactic plane of inertia' thus creating more molecular hydrogen nebulea' turning into the centripetal manufacturing of galactic arms eventually heading back to the recycling bin' so to speak.
Black holes are interacting more with shared gravity and particles than something like a star and planet normally do when calculating two seperate bodies. So the three body problem with two interacting black holes would need a different type of analysis. And theory or hypothesis.
6:30 Thats because they don't take the drag of Space/Time into account. And don't hit me with the "Fuzzy Dark matter" explanation. Thats just adding a hypothetical state to an already theoretical kind of matter.
Fascinating stuff, as usual. Again, we see dark matter invoked to try to solve a problem. Some recent observations have supported MOND rather than DM, but an internet search does not bring up any attempts to apply MOND to the final parsec problem. I know it's about huge distances, but this is an extreme case so I wonder whether there is any work out there that at least rules it out.
I have a question. What happens if two nearly identical black holes, with opposing rotations, one rotating clockwise and the other counterclockwise for example, merge?
Like two gears meshing together until one of them pops upward and into the other like two whirlpools on a river? Taking into consideration that it would be like what's called a hydraulic jump.
It converts the momentum of the black holes spinning together into waves in space time. Conservation of energy means the black holes thus have less linear speed/angular momentum so they fall to a lower orbit. Suspend two balls from string connected to one point, then spin them around. The energy lost to air friction will lower the balls speed and they slowly fall together (air=spacetime)
So if time slows the closer you get to a black hole, wouldn’t time basically stop before you get to the singularity? So every B.H. is still collapsing?
Would it be possible to make two black holes fixate next to each other one spinning clockwise and the other anticlockwise. Then we could have the universes biggest hotwheels accelerator
If it was believed that 2 supermassive blacks holes couldn't merge, then what did LIGAR detect a few years ago? I thought that was believed to be the merger of 2 black holes?
Observation of the known universe 93 billion light-years in diameter shows a frightful, chaotic, violent environment compared to our Solar System that we have yet to travel except for rare human travel to the Moon merely 4.063 × 10 − 11 light-years from the Earth compared to the billions of light year of the universe.
Seems to me that dark matter isn't needed. Expansion to me makes sense seeing as though a dense mass like a black hole is truly no different than a rock splashing off the water. The denser the mass the more splash. If you think about a dense mass floating in space, those objects float because they changed state and were in a fluid, not only that but because heat makes fluid move, solid objects give velocity to fluids they curve. When we curve space time by displacing the cosmological constant, it's just like a rock being dragged under water at high speeds, and the displacement and collapse are our gravitational fields. Because a dense mass is so cold it gets a nice toilet bowl going by heating fluid, that changes state and leaves the time space empty making it look like something was sliding on a sled, yet we see no sled because it formed to something else. Like presto we just see a floating object, but it was one that was flowing. What was once displaced is now collapsing. Therefore if everything is falling into a time dilated space storm we know why space gets bigger since matter formation makes space have no choice but to go around and grow. Everything is falling into the greatest density, because the greatest density makes the biggest splash. 💯🥹☕
Well... At least you're trying. Although I can tell that you have a keen interest in the subject, you still have much to learn. Don't think of objects as 'floating' in space, because that's a mistake. Everything is moving because of gravitational effects, whether they be stars moving about the core of a galaxy, or galaxies moving about the core of a cluster. The same applies for black holes too, no matter how large. Everything is constantly 'falling' toward something else of a larger mass. Spacetime isn't a physical medium that can be heated or cooled, like matter, although it is curved by the presence of matter. One of the ways that dark matter has been mapped is by observing the gravitational lensing effects it causes by itself, completely beyond the confines of a nearby galaxy or cluster of galaxies, which simultaneously create their own separate lensing effects. Keep studying, cheers, and good luck.
@stargazer5784 no, I totally get that. Matter is energy FORMED because of the weak and strong force. Empty space vacuum, or microwave background "SPACE" we have to hypothesize as to why it's empty, to me, matter formation and cooling, mean EXPANSION. Because objects with high densities act like rocks in a pond or leaves in a lake, raising it's volume. So to me, it's no wonder that we miss what gravity truly is, a collapse of what was pushed out, now falling in albeit time dilated, a space storm on slow flash, we see a snap pic of what happened 24 billion years ago or whatever. So to me, we need to be able to think of the thermodynamic aspects because heat makes things slide, explosions and crashing make velocity, and stirring and pouring happen all the time. Cosmic tang. 😁🙏💯What a fun conversation by the way first thing in the morning. 😊
I like the theory that black holes create dark energy as time is Warped into space that only flows forward, causing an accelerating expanding universe. The dark energy acts as waves and at close distances act as dark matter, while at further distances it repels.
It would be quite amusing if Virtual Particles turned out to be Axions, Blackholes would emite them, and 2 merging blackhole's emissions would interact when they came close enough. Add in framedragging,, (and since magetic reconnection is so powerful in stars I see no reason that of a blsckhole wouldn't be,) which would extend that framedragging out a bit (so a possible interaction there), it is energy after all, then I think all that together would put these issues to bed (shrug, the emoijs are not working, lol).
I would imagine globular clusters could do that maybe, like loose domain walls of a galactic sized magnet' focusing by method of pressure towards the center.
Anton seems to be having his black hole and eating it. A few days ago wasn't he saying dark matter in in black holes might explain the expansion of the universe?
One speculative way to see it that I've read is that spacetime is infinitely stretched by the singularity, so the distance to it appears infinite. And all paths lead to it so there's at least the appearance of an infinite expanse in all directions. But everything is speculative beneath the event horizon.
I would assume that the Axions, would provide the extra mass necessary to give both black holes the mass to pull themselves towards each other then there own gravity takes over so they form a binary pair that eventually leads to there merger 🤷🏼♂️
@@mikolajtrzeciecki1188 I thought of that too, but I was like - 🤷🏼♂️ since there in between the two black holes and there both heading towards each other - possibly provide the extra mass needed to overcome the lack of baryonic matter , or provides the extra mass needed to ( additional) to overcome the parsec problem 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
No. Literally never. Massive black holes are massive. It's in the name. They do not wander. They drag everything with them, because they're massive. Just because they are dense does not magically make their gravity different...
The observation of this emission also proves that two closely orbiting super-massive black holes don't always completely clear out their local area of matter. In the chaotic turbulence of a galactic merger, I'd imagine stray gas clouds and stars would be flung every which way, including in the direction of the orbiting central black holes, solving that particular problem.
If you want the solution to the final parsec problem, you must read my theory and calculate the Gravitational Poynting vector. From there, you can predict the merger by predicting the loss of kinetic energy due to gravitational irradiation.
These black holes cannot ignore one another nor can they escape their eventual and mutual fate. Whatever happens we know the multidisciplinary team will have nothing to do with the eventual outcome. Ditto AI!
how can you not look at those first images and not think about a ying yang which is graphic representation of a torus field. These 'black holes' are not being pulled by gravity as it's dominate force but flowing in an electromagnetic cycle of a plasma reaction
I learn something new about space every day.
365 times a year for more than 10 years Anton providing me with information.
Let’s multiply..
365 x 10 that’s 3,650 new things I’ve learned!
3650..
And you remember it all ?🧐😀
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I remember every single one if I rewatch them. 😁
Actually you probably learned more than one thing from each video
How many of you can remember scooting across the floor on your butt' because you haven't learned how to walk yet?
Just found your channel last week, Anton. Your work is fantastic and you make this extremely accessible for someone in a completely different intellectual field.
Wonderful person, you have some serious binge watching in your future! Just saying.
Welcome, wonderful person 👋!
I actually thought of the final parsec problem as soon as this vid began. Not that it is significant to anyone but me, but it does demonstrate that I have learned at least one science fact watching Anton!
So, thank you, wonderful Anton!
Thanks again Anton for taking us away from our troubled tiny world once more -- at least for awhile
Excellent work as usual Anton 👍
one thing you can say about astro physics that you can't say about most other sciences is that it's not stuck, it's always fluid and changes on a daily basis.
And is expanding at an accelerating rate due to AI, more telescopes, and soon cheaper transit thru Starship ❤
Lol. Lmao.
They've been trying to prove their fudged math for over 50 years now and there's still not a single shred of evidence for it. If that isn't the definition of "being stuck" I don't know what is.
Amazing graphics again. That simulation in red is ravishing!
Hard to comprehend the forces between 2 supermassive black holes, moving at mind boggling velocities, in close proximity. A truly terrifying location.
Presumably, this situation is the core of colliding galaxies?
How does Anton do it, he always says, refer back to some older video he's done, so he's already done it all, but still has new stuff!?!?
Am sure Anton has a database into which he logs the videos he produces, their topics, etc. When needed he does a database search for relevant videos to which he refers.
Uh, because his videos all cover various happenings in the field of astronomy, & the field of astronomy is always gathering more & more data which shed light on previous discoveries & questions that arose from said discoveries.
I've been watching this channel for about 10 years. It used to be very small channel called what da math.
@jeremywright5036 I remember that, though don't think I subbed to his channel until he changed it. It's amazing that he seems to put out a new one everyday!
@@williambrasky3891 I was just being a bit ironic.
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 🫡🫠
Black hole mergers are one of the most important phenomena in studying the formation of large-scale cosmic structures, including supermassive black holes at the centers of galaxies. Understanding this process not only helps decipher the origin and evolution of black holes, but also provides insight into how galaxies and the universe as a whole have formed and evolved over billions of years.
Black hole mergers are what create new universes
I smell AI
Ive seen recently that Pluto has been in a revoving dance with Charon at the outer edge of our solar system, i was always with Pluto, kept so beautifully in our solar system from so far away, because of Keiper Belt, thats most sensible thing ive heard for a long time, thank you
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We are high as f*** right now!!Thanks for asking
@Afterlife-Boy Toking up right now, too! Party Hearty!
Bloody beautiful, mate. Down here in good old hot Straya, bludger... Texas would be a doozy of a place to camp, cobber....
Pumpin the bongs down here, mate... 9:30 in the mornin and im high as a cockatoo snackin on acaccia sticks....
@@danielvermeer3363 Come on up, but come during your Summer so you don't fry in the heat!
Great material every day, Anton.
Do you ever get tired?
And a great head of hair.
Keep on growing it while you have it dude.
Hello wonderful Anton! Happy Thanksgiving!
The explosions were part of an intergalactic war- everyone knows this
Almost. It was the ships, getting caught in the Cosmic Maelstrom.
For Real in a galaxy far far away
SWIFT is an amazing mission. I made my PhD thesis on it 12 years ago and it still rocks and provides super interesting scientific data. And it was launched on my birthday as a bonus. So cool.
That is interesting, maybe gravitation does not come from mass after all, maybe it's just emergent property. So, galaxies that expand into the void can go faster than light, but wherever galaxies have already expanded there is always a limitation of the speed in that area, like the dispersed atoms limit speed between themselves. Wow, never thought I would know this much from when I took astrophysics in the 80's.
Think about when we were amebas with no sensory input…. Feels like we are evolving a new sensory input
Nah, it's the Death Star blowing up.
Yup, "hard to explain explosions" my ass! Literally my first thought went to the Death Star
Just once I wish Anton's clickbait titles would be this
This study did some heavy lifting indeed.
I wonder what two accretion disks colliding would look like.
What would happen as many stellar masses of spinning matter interact?
on topic; can someone PLEASE EXPLAIN: if a singularity has (or theorized to have) 0 volume, HOW IS ANGULAR MOMENTUM CONSERVED IF IT'S A SPINNING BLACK HOLE (WHICH THEY PRETTY MUCH ALL ARE). that would mean as supernova collapses, spin, as radius approaches 0, approached infinity (impossible if c is highest speed possible)
wouldn't it render an equilibrium with extremely high density (yet non-infinite) and extremely high spin
TIME/SPACE act "in-concert" as a 2-dimensional "grid".
As Einstein speculated later in life, C is not the prevailing constant. In this "context" infinite acceleration is the terminal phase for "singularities", as they are converted to (forgive the convenience of the term) Dark Matter "entities"; while "elsewhere" a Star is born.
Humans suffer from a (literally) terminal bias, in a relative, cyclical "time frame" measured in "units" of infinities.
As I understand it the theories that we have don't work on spinning black holes. Besides there are theories out there that don't have a singularity at the center so we're definitely not certain about that part.
@@TripleOmega don't work on spinning black holes? how's that? they're all spinning. non spinning black holes must be a hugely *special* case
@@danielmartini3229 Yeah that's the problem. They work on the theoretical ones that probably never occur in the real world.
Hello, wonderful Anton, this is person.
Welcome to my tablet.
My 1st thought it, how do 2 super massive BH's get into close orbit? I thought there was a lower limit to BH size where the strength eventually prevents them from getting close, bringing into question as to just how super massives come into being? Surely if, if that's incorrect, if the orbit is as close as implied, the tidal effects would be awesome as the 2 BH's spin towards light speed as they collide?
And then we'd be seeing THOSE effects rather than just 'explosions' of energy.
Funny how everything for which we struggle to find an explanation always somehow comes down to BH's or Dark Matter as cause.
It sometimes seems that way, but not always. Neutron stars, supernovae, and other exotic stellar mass objects, help to stir the pot quite a bit too. Especially the really large type 2 supernovae. They can trigger a whole chain of events in their immediate vicinity, and sometimes out to a fairly good distance beyond. If you look closely at star fields in our galaxy, you sometimes see curving chains of stars that appear very near to each other. Proper motion surveys and parallax measurements typically reveal that they are in fact, stellar neighbors. Further investigation then usually confirms that they are also of a similar age. It's been seen that these curved lines of stars delineate a portion of the massive circular shockwave of an ancient type 2 supernova impacting a molecular cloud, and then triggering the collapse of portions of the cloud into new stars. This scenario doesn't always create easily seen lines of stars, but sometimes it does. Fascinating stuff. Cheers.
Something that I forgot to address. As far as certain black hole mergers mergers are concerned, or rather their mathematically implied impossibility, the universe is notorious for sometimes saying, 'hold my beer', in a manner of speaking. Never and always, are two words that it's usually wise to steer clear of in this field. There are a few things that are etched in stone, but only a precious few.
@stargazer5784 The universe is nothing more than the expression of the law of averages and the law of very large numbers clashing. Anything remotely possible (even one in quintillions) _will_ happen somewhere. The questions are where, when, how often, and why? I find it is only a lack of imagination that produces impossibilities. That or thoughts based on fantasy rules that do not correlate with reality, like so many people have...
@@stargazer5784 I recently (few months perhaps) saw a video showing (I think from GAIA) how they found stars now widely separated that track back to being very close together in the past. The hypothesis was these were from a cloud that got 'shocked' into producing a whole bunch of stars & the shockwave started pushing them away to where we now see them.
Kinda brought to mind a cosmic MacBeth scene - "“Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and cauldron bubble.”" A bubbling churning whirlpool of stars.
@@stargazer5784 I agree totally. The cosmology field (& some other physics fields) seem to be replete with a LOT of speculation presented as facts based on a structure they never question.
To the science I was taught decades back, if you keep being surprised by what you find, if your limits keep getting broken by reality, your basic hypothesis is likely wrong & you need to go back to basics - not just invent magic forces & invisible particles to make your hypothesis work.
I still have serious doubts about their 'pictures' of BH's - WAY too much trimming of noise to produce just the image they predicted for my liking. The signal is tiny compared to the noise so producing a pic & saying this is what we see in such certainty most people think they REALLY too a photo of a BH is nice PR but not really science.
Another one is the Higgs - BOTH competing theories got the value wrong - SUSY & MV said it would be either 115 GeV or 140 GeV - the 2 experiments showing an anomaly at 126 GeV to my mind actually disprove both theories, not confirm them.
Funny how important it was to find the Higgs but there's been almost zero mention of any new science coming now they supposedly DID find it. Instead they want a new, larger & more expensive collider. Which suggests to me they KNOW they didn't find the Higgs but it was lovely PR to prove the $$$Bn's for the LHCwas worth it.
/scepticism
Do black holes have lagrange points? If two black holes are in binary, there must be a lagrange point between them. I wonder what on earth gathers in that location?
And on those faces if the black hole, the event horizon must show a depression and on the far side a hill (mountain).
A black hole tide. Terrifying.
Not necessarily. Black holes bend space itswlf and drag it around. At no point between them could you even choose to stay still without infinite thrusters.
What if hawking radiation isn't material coming out of a black hole but particles being ejected from a certain orbit or something but never actually fully get sucked in??
Hawking radiation isn't particles that escape from inside a black hole. Quantum vacuum fluctuations that occur just outside of the event horizon, fed by the black hole's intense gravity, result in the creation of particle/anti-particle pairs. When both particles fall into the black hole, energy/mass is conserved. When one falls in and one escapes, then mass is lost, albeit slowly.
They never go in to the black hole in the first place. Only their antiparticle goes in, never to be seen.
I have to admit, this is a paper that means less blackholes are out there, this could be an odd ball but if we find more merging supermassive blackholes it does mean there are a lot less blackholes out there.
There are billions of black holes out there.
Some the hearts of galaxies, others the remnants of dead stars.
More are made every time a massive star dies, so like daily?
Billions.
Accretion disc interaction should also have a signature if the discs begin to interact, first magnetically, then physically.
You coming to Bluesky Anton? Quite a good astronomy feed on there now
That’s a kiddie diddler site.
@@bdawg-qj9bq no thats all Elons new friends
3 dimensionaly thinking about two spheres slightly overlapping like a simple two circle (and dimensional) venn diagram, gives you a saucer shape' I imagine like two magnets slowly nearing each other over a ferrocell/ferrolens, shows a countersync in the middle' that if seen in 3 dimensions' would probably look like a saucer. (3D thought again) With a line drawn through' from one side to the other, gives you relativistic jets at a slight S curve which is galactic scale larmor frequency' and could (I'm guessing here) by magnetic pressure mediation' send most of the atomic hydrogen towards the galactic plane of inertia' thus creating more molecular hydrogen nebulea' turning into the centripetal manufacturing of galactic arms eventually heading back to the recycling bin' so to speak.
youtube was muted and when he waved his hand i still heard in my head "hello, wonderful person"
I love your channel. Thank you Anton. ❤
Talk is cheap. Buy him a Thank you or super chat.
2 Body Problem would be nice title for a sci fi novel
Black holes are interacting more with shared gravity and particles than something like a star and planet normally do when calculating two seperate bodies. So the three body problem with two interacting black holes would need a different type of analysis. And theory or hypothesis.
Why am I becoming more and more terrified of black holes?
6:30
Thats because they don't take the drag of Space/Time into account.
And don't hit me with the "Fuzzy Dark matter" explanation. Thats just adding a hypothetical state to an already theoretical kind of matter.
Fascinating stuff, as usual.
Again, we see dark matter invoked to try to solve a problem. Some recent observations have supported MOND rather than DM, but an internet search does not bring up any attempts to apply MOND to the final parsec problem. I know it's about huge distances, but this is an extreme case so I wonder whether there is any work out there that at least rules it out.
Anybody else see the one animation of the black holes and see two googly eyes spinning around?
Whatever. Great channel!
I have a question. What happens if two nearly identical black holes, with opposing rotations, one rotating clockwise and the other counterclockwise for example, merge?
Like two gears meshing together until one of them pops upward and into the other like two whirlpools on a river? Taking into consideration that it would be like what's called a hydraulic jump.
6:27 How do gravitational waves reduce the orbit of two black holes?
This was my first thought. If gravitational waves from elsewhere can influence an orbit like this?
Imagine the total gravity of the system "shedding" like a dog loses hair due to these waves
It converts the momentum of the black holes spinning together into waves in space time. Conservation of energy means the black holes thus have less linear speed/angular momentum so they fall to a lower orbit.
Suspend two balls from string connected to one point, then spin them around. The energy lost to air friction will lower the balls speed and they slowly fall together (air=spacetime)
Only 70,000 years till they merge... From a light day apart! Wow... how?
So what happens to all the galaxies following these 2 super massive black holes? Did they all get flung out of the orbit around these two black holes?
So if time slows the closer you get to a black hole, wouldn’t time basically stop before you get to the singularity? So every B.H. is still collapsing?
Great video, very interesting,thanks Anton 👍❤
Would it be possible to make two black holes fixate next to each other one spinning clockwise and the other anticlockwise. Then we could have the universes biggest hotwheels accelerator
If it was believed that 2 supermassive blacks holes couldn't merge, then what did LIGAR detect a few years ago? I thought that was believed to be the merger of 2 black holes?
Observation of the known universe 93 billion light-years in diameter shows a frightful, chaotic, violent environment compared to our Solar System that we have yet to travel except for rare human travel to the Moon merely 4.063 × 10 − 11 light-years from the Earth compared to the billions of light year of the universe.
Could black holes exchange energy by the Lense-Thirring effect ?
Seems to me that dark matter isn't needed. Expansion to me makes sense seeing as though a dense mass like a black hole is truly no different than a rock splashing off the water. The denser the mass the more splash. If you think about a dense mass floating in space, those objects float because they changed state and were in a fluid, not only that but because heat makes fluid move, solid objects give velocity to fluids they curve. When we curve space time by displacing the cosmological constant, it's just like a rock being dragged under water at high speeds, and the displacement and collapse are our gravitational fields. Because a dense mass is so cold it gets a nice toilet bowl going by heating fluid, that changes state and leaves the time space empty making it look like something was sliding on a sled, yet we see no sled because it formed to something else. Like presto we just see a floating object, but it was one that was flowing. What was once displaced is now collapsing. Therefore if everything is falling into a time dilated space storm we know why space gets bigger since matter formation makes space have no choice but to go around and grow. Everything is falling into the greatest density, because the greatest density makes the biggest splash. 💯🥹☕
Well... At least you're trying. Although I can tell that you have a keen interest in the subject, you still have much to learn. Don't think of objects as 'floating' in space, because that's a mistake. Everything is moving because of gravitational effects, whether they be stars moving about the core of a galaxy, or galaxies moving about the core of a cluster. The same applies for black holes too, no matter how large. Everything is constantly 'falling' toward something else of a larger mass. Spacetime isn't a physical medium that can be heated or cooled, like matter, although it is curved by the presence of matter. One of the ways that dark matter has been mapped is by observing the gravitational lensing effects it causes by itself, completely beyond the confines of a nearby galaxy or cluster of galaxies, which simultaneously create their own separate lensing effects. Keep studying, cheers, and good luck.
@stargazer5784 no, I totally get that. Matter is energy FORMED because of the weak and strong force. Empty space vacuum, or microwave background "SPACE" we have to hypothesize as to why it's empty, to me, matter formation and cooling, mean EXPANSION. Because objects with high densities act like rocks in a pond or leaves in a lake, raising it's volume. So to me, it's no wonder that we miss what gravity truly is, a collapse of what was pushed out, now falling in albeit time dilated, a space storm on slow flash, we see a snap pic of what happened 24 billion years ago or whatever. So to me, we need to be able to think of the thermodynamic aspects because heat makes things slide, explosions and crashing make velocity, and stirring and pouring happen all the time. Cosmic tang. 😁🙏💯What a fun conversation by the way first thing in the morning. 😊
so glad black holes aren't in our neighborhood, the ultimate monster.
I like the theory that black holes create dark energy as time is Warped into space that only flows forward, causing an accelerating expanding universe. The dark energy acts as waves and at close distances act as dark matter, while at further distances it repels.
Repel is not correct, literally or figuratively. There is no force accelerating them or us. It is merely space growing between.
Thank you, Anton! 🎉
What about the detection of gravity waves of two merging black holes?
Will this binary SMBH be visible with LISA?
Wormholes might explain some of problems. Wormholes explain the information paradox. Maybe they never get to the event herison
But what explains the wormholes? 😮
Sub atomic pressure burst
I asked a couple of worms in the garden. They said "not us, guvnor."
It would be quite amusing if Virtual Particles turned out to be Axions, Blackholes would emite them, and 2 merging blackhole's emissions would interact when they came close enough. Add in framedragging,, (and since magetic reconnection is so powerful in stars I see no reason that of a blsckhole wouldn't be,) which would extend that framedragging out a bit (so a possible interaction there), it is energy after all, then I think all that together would put these issues to bed (shrug, the emoijs are not working, lol).
🙋🏽♀️anton everyday
A big bang is two or more super massive black holes trying to merge.
I'm am as tierd of these dark matter theories as light from the galaxy emitted 13b years ago...
Have we ever found a system with 3 merging black holes?
I would imagine globular clusters could do that maybe, like loose domain walls of a galactic sized magnet' focusing by method of pressure towards the center.
Dual Egg beater and wiped cream
Maybee stay clear of that space weather :)
I think of it as being like surface tension in water, maybe. ;--)
Anton seems to be having his black hole and eating it. A few days ago wasn't he saying dark matter in in black holes might explain the expansion of the universe?
A mere light day 🤯
I allways like small dark black holes so that I can forget it easily and like god, me too hate dark matter and dark energy.
Probably Death Stars.
TBA: in 70, 000 years.
It’s aliens
Always is
If the answer is "dark matter", it was a stupid question to begin with.
Here's a question is our universe in a blackhole?? if so how come we haven't been sucked up??
It is a hypothetical proposal, no actual hard evidence.
One speculative way to see it that I've read is that spacetime is infinitely stretched by the singularity, so the distance to it appears infinite. And all paths lead to it so there's at least the appearance of an infinite expanse in all directions.
But everything is speculative beneath the event horizon.
OK... who ate all the parsecs?
9:02 Is it me? I don't understand the explanation. Or am I supposed to read that paper?
I would assume that the Axions, would provide the extra mass necessary to give both black holes the mass to pull themselves towards each other then there own gravity takes over so they form a binary pair that eventually leads to there merger 🤷🏼♂️
@@lasarith2 Why would there be more axions between the black holes than in the area outside the final parsec?
@@mikolajtrzeciecki1188 I thought of that too, but I was like - 🤷🏼♂️ since there in between the two black holes and there both heading towards each other - possibly provide the extra mass needed to overcome the lack of baryonic matter , or provides the extra mass needed to ( additional) to overcome the parsec problem 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@@mikolajtrzeciecki1188 or there’s more mass there that we can’t see , that provides the mass needed between them to cause the merger .
@@lasarith2 This is not addressed in the video.
I am critiquing on a high niveau.
i got dibbs on the movie title ( 2 body problem )
"That were" , cuz multiple explosions :)
what about merging black holes LIGO detected?
Currently the 3 LIGOs in operation cannot detect the gravitational waves caused by supermassive black holes.
Space wars ?. Is it ALIENS ???
Of course.
The answer is aliens, the answer is always aliens 👽...
That's a terrifying observation: There are wandering supermassive black hole binary systems just wandering around the galaxy feeding on gasclouds.
I don't think it's anywhere near our galaxy. Pretty sure this is millions of lightyears away.
No. Literally never. Massive black holes are massive. It's in the name. They do not wander. They drag everything with them, because they're massive. Just because they are dense does not magically make their gravity different...
@@ashkebora7262 Of course they wander, all galaxies wander.
3-body
Or a space war 😁
Seems these days everything is solved with dark matter it used to be oh it’s a black hole lol
The observation of this emission also proves that two closely orbiting super-massive black holes don't always completely clear out their local area of matter. In the chaotic turbulence of a galactic merger, I'd imagine stray gas clouds and stars would be flung every which way, including in the direction of the orbiting central black holes, solving that particular problem.
The outer edge of a galaxy rotation is the last kick from a big bang. No dark matter needed.
Proof, however, _is_ needed.
Voice is muffled today?
Nothing special, but anyone here play the video game, Star Field?
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Good, they finally explained it! Are they right? Usually they aren't so probably not.
If stuff exploded in the universe, we would hear it
What?
Black holes are not possible.
R U sure we are not on a TRINARY SYSTEM?
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If you want the solution to the final parsec problem, you must read my theory and calculate the Gravitational Poynting vector. From there, you can predict the merger by predicting the loss of kinetic energy due to gravitational irradiation.
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These black holes cannot ignore one another nor can they escape their eventual and mutual fate. Whatever happens we know the multidisciplinary team will have nothing to do with the eventual outcome. Ditto AI!
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how can you not look at those first images and not think about a ying yang which is graphic representation of a torus field. These 'black holes' are not being pulled by gravity as it's dominate force but flowing in an electromagnetic cycle of a plasma reaction
this is getting out of Hands , know they are TWO of them ...