Great points. Reading disc flight…and the wind…takes experience. A way to practice reads is to throw curved hucks to each other. (A straight huck is easier to read, with air time being the main variable.) Curves, especially on windy days, are more complex. A good opportunity to take advantage of those windy practices. Adding opposite hand hucks expands variety.
Jonny I've got a question for you.. if I'm cutting deep and receiving this kind of throw, is there any point in running on that curved, slightly incorrect path to more effectively box out my defender? Or should I just go straight to where I know the disc is going to be and jump for it from there? I frequently have taller people defending me bc I'm not the tallest, so boxing out is my default but I've overcommitted to the box out on these kind of throws and then not been able to actually catch the disc.
Hi Jonny, great video and great tip about trying to read the disc early and running in a straight line rather than a curved path as the receiver. Do you have any thoughts or tips about how to defend this throw? I've encountered it a few times recently and when the disc sails high and than fades to the breakside you don't have much play on it as a defender. This is because to get to the disc you would have to run through your offender, which could cause a dangerous play. The situation is the force flick, I am guarding my man on the right trying to stop any open throws. A flick huck goes up over my head and it's too high to jump for. Then it fades to the breakside and it is going to go over my offender's left shoulder and suddenly I'm on the wrong side of my offender. I might be looking up at the disc trying to make a read instead of my man and try to make a running leap at the disc while the offender could be standing still boxing me out, which would make a dangerous play. One thought is that I should maybe unintuitively guard my man on the opposite side on the left (break side), maybe also diagonally to the left and behind towards the deep space. Then this type of breakside fade Huck I'll have the better positioning. But I'll also have good positioning for other hucks such as toward the right corner. I don't have great positioning for guarding open side unders but I can still contest any non-perfect throws that my offender doesn't come to on. Also potential for a teammate to poach the under in the vert stack.
You're right on with your thoughts on "unintuitive" positioning in the deep space as long as you are trying to deny that option. If you are denying the deep shot with that positioning, you will have to pursue hard on unders to contest while maintaining your positioning to have your body in the right place so that if your person turns around they will have to come into your body as a buffer. Additionally, another way to try to get a turn on these once you're in that non-advantageous position when the disc is in the air is to do what the defender wearing white (Delrico Johnson) does in the second incompletion clip, which is to find your person's body and jump early, effectively forcing them to jump for a disc that is too high. Hope this helps!
Great points. Reading disc flight…and the wind…takes experience. A way to practice reads is to throw curved hucks to each other. (A straight huck is easier to read, with air time being the main variable.) Curves, especially on windy days, are more complex. A good opportunity to take advantage of those windy practices. Adding opposite hand hucks expands variety.
Thanks for your insight, Jay! Great note!
Jonny I've got a question for you.. if I'm cutting deep and receiving this kind of throw, is there any point in running on that curved, slightly incorrect path to more effectively box out my defender? Or should I just go straight to where I know the disc is going to be and jump for it from there? I frequently have taller people defending me bc I'm not the tallest, so boxing out is my default but I've overcommitted to the box out on these kind of throws and then not been able to actually catch the disc.
Hi Jonny, great video and great tip about trying to read the disc early and running in a straight line rather than a curved path as the receiver.
Do you have any thoughts or tips about how to defend this throw? I've encountered it a few times recently and when the disc sails high and than fades to the breakside you don't have much play on it as a defender. This is because to get to the disc you would have to run through your offender, which could cause a dangerous play. The situation is the force flick, I am guarding my man on the right trying to stop any open throws. A flick huck goes up over my head and it's too high to jump for. Then it fades to the breakside and it is going to go over my offender's left shoulder and suddenly I'm on the wrong side of my offender. I might be looking up at the disc trying to make a read instead of my man and try to make a running leap at the disc while the offender could be standing still boxing me out, which would make a dangerous play.
One thought is that I should maybe unintuitively guard my man on the opposite side on the left (break side), maybe also diagonally to the left and behind towards the deep space. Then this type of breakside fade Huck I'll have the better positioning. But I'll also have good positioning for other hucks such as toward the right corner. I don't have great positioning for guarding open side unders but I can still contest any non-perfect throws that my offender doesn't come to on. Also potential for a teammate to poach the under in the vert stack.
You're right on with your thoughts on "unintuitive" positioning in the deep space as long as you are trying to deny that option. If you are denying the deep shot with that positioning, you will have to pursue hard on unders to contest while maintaining your positioning to have your body in the right place so that if your person turns around they will have to come into your body as a buffer.
Additionally, another way to try to get a turn on these once you're in that non-advantageous position when the disc is in the air is to do what the defender wearing white (Delrico Johnson) does in the second incompletion clip, which is to find your person's body and jump early, effectively forcing them to jump for a disc that is too high.
Hope this helps!
I just got out of a tournament what am I doing loading my brain with more ultimate
the second clip receiver is crap
The turnover or the completion?
@@genericembarrassingusernam7843 turnover, of course
@@paweljanas9536 oh right brain no worky. my b
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