Oh and David keep interacting with people you want a few UA-cam or is it actually do and it's a good thing it shows you care and and want to learn along with people and you will surely grow I have talked to you a few well a good amount and that's a good thing
this just happen to me this weekend. I have a 1999 formula z 670 and i had a break lever go bad on me there is a 0 Ring in the break lever i noticed it leaking out of the handle it self so only thing U can do is limp it back to camp suggest looking over the whole breaking system every time you go out nothing you can do once it happens. great videos happy trails my friend Blake from MICHIGAN.
Not only brake failure, but traveling too fast for conditions and not being able to stop in time. Had a spot a few weekends ago where the trails were decent shape, until got to a water bar that was way worse than anything we'd been across. Locked up, full skid, ended up nearly sideways. Have a plan at all times. Sled was able to roll through and turned out to be alright, for me. Could've been much worse. Pump the brakes, don't full lock as it loads the track up with snow. Easier said than done.
I bought a 97 skidoo grand touring SE and the brakes locked on while I was in the middle of a trail and almost caused a fire (glowing red brake disc). Good tip for that is to check for a clogged return line in master cylinder. It is very tiny and easy to clog if your brake fluid is dirty. Another reason to change brake fluid regularly! Just thought I'd mention another type of brake failure that can happen...
On old S Chassis Ski Doo sleds like the MXZ in this video and my Formula Z I have. Do change your fluid per the manual and flush the system well! Too many fires have burned up classic sleds like ours because the fluid return line gets plugged and the brake stays engaged on the rotor. Think of the Nascar brakes on TV when you see them glowing red hot when they use them. This happens on the snowmobile when the fluid does not release the pressure! Easy to clean the return line using a paperclip or needle. You'll know if you smell a belt burning scent while riding and the sled has no real power.
if u are on a newer sled and going down a decent, u can try to countersteer and put the sled on edge and stop, there are alot of videos on downhill decent, works best if the snow is deeper
Growing up I never really used the brake, I just relied on the engine to slow down, never went too fast and planned out the braking. It’s definitely slower but in a pinch the sled can do it
@@ablink6002 It seems way to often for me. I'm getting pretty good at fixing it enough to get it home though. Maybe in a few years I'll have it all gone through lol
I actually had the opposite happen. The small hole in the master cylinder is the return for the fluid when releasing the brake lever. That hole got clogged up and the brakes locked up on me. The rotor was red hot and I couldn't move at all!! Had to use snow to put out the small fire the heat caused. Was able to loosen the bleeder on the caliper and had to drive home with no brakes. Yearly maintenance is so important.
just opened up my brake fluid canister and it was definetly low. Only bought the sled in May, I guess the screws were sooo tight in there cuz it's been a while since it had been opened.
I rode a 73 TNT without brakes for 2 years in high school. If you know ahead of time and you aren't going over 40mph, you can manage it. But mostly you don't want to go over 25mph. You can use the tips of your boots to create drag to help slow you down. I have 3 MXZs and one needs brake work. The lever goes 3/4 of the way to the handlebars before it reacts but Its been fine to ride. I also have a 94 Mach 1 that has broken brakes... But its also not running so no danger there. lol
@@MyOldSled I 100% agree. Being able to manage it didn't mean it was safe or smart. These days I don't even trust the MXZ to have worn brakes. I didn't notice until this year how much worse it was than my other sleds so I already scheduled the service at the local dealer. These days I don't run anything that doesn't have every single feature operational, right down to handwarmers and new safety lanyards. But as a teenager I wasn't above riding a sled that was missing all gauges and its headlight. Eventually I got everything on those old sleds running too, including the brakes. That old TNT was never ridden more than a mile or so from home on more or less flat trails. But I don't recommend anyone try it, especially with a modern 500lb sled. Those old early 70s sleds were smaller and only weighed about 300lbs. They still had bogey wheels instead of a skid with sliders back then. Now that I think about it, those probably caused a lot of drag on their own as they were just as ancient as the sled was.
I am new to snowmobiling just bought my first sled. a 1994 Polaris indy 440 and a heard a lot of people say to check the hyfax it is a wear item right? I was just wondering how to check, how to tell when it needs to be replaced and how to replace it?
Hi, Andrew. Sorry for the delay. Yes, the sliders or Hyfax are a wear item. To be accurate, they are called a Runner Shoe on the Skidoo parts diagram. The clips ride on them and they are meant to wear out instead of the runners in the rear suspension. They have a wear indicator that runs along the side. You can see it anywhere you check and when the slider is worn to there, you need to change it. I will do a video eventually, but they don't need changing yet. There is a screw toward the front of the runner that you remove, then you can align one of the windows in the track and slide it backward. Then you just cut the new one to the same length and tap it back on. It's pretty easy, they can sometimes be a bit stubborn, but you can hit them with penetrating oil.
Something else that is scary to deal with is blowing a track. Just watch any youtube video of someone blowing their track. You have no brakes and you coast (sometimes a longs ways) to a stop, especially if ripping across crusty snow in an open field or on a lake.
North of Wiarton on the Bruce. Weather is unpredictable and makes that tough but there are lots of poker runs and club events you could attend. Keep an eye on my facebook page and I'll try to post any I am going to.
Sorry to be the grammar police but I'm pretty sure you meant to say big meet up and not big meat up. Sorry couldn't help by pointing that out as the latter made me laugh.
Hey Great Video. I have a question I currently own a 99 MXZ 600(Great sled). In the future I would like to install under glow/ lights on it. But being The year and model there is no Electric start that for no battery would you happen to know on how to wire that up whether it may be to the headlights or something else thanks
Not sure what the lights need. If they require dc, you'd need a rectifier. AC, then sure the lighting circuit would be fine. Check my video on hooking up a GPS.
My brakes failed on my 76 Polaris when the trotle stuck. I ended up bailing off because of a large drop and semi frozen water. Glad I did because sled fell 50 feet
I have 1997 Polaris Indy 500. I was out riding and lost my brakes but I was out on a lake so I was lucky. The brake light switch broke and leaked all my fluid out! Not a good deal but simple fix.
Hi, Wyatt. Even though I like to keep my sled stock, I think risers are great from a functional perspective. They give you more leverage for counter steering etc when you're in the deep stuff, and from a standing position, they're much easier to ride.
+My Old Sled ya it happened twice to the same sled first time we where on a lake and had to tow it out second time we where in the middle of no where and in the hills
Hi Bill. Few thoughts on that. Reaching for a choke would be no less of a distraction the hitting the kill switch. Also, All that does is restrict the air flow to the carb, which would just make it run poorly or stall. Wouldn't easing the throttle be an easier way to decrease engine speed anyway?
Oh and David keep interacting with people you want a few UA-cam or is it actually do and it's a good thing it shows you care and and want to learn along with people and you will surely grow I have talked to you a few well a good amount and that's a good thing
this just happen to me this weekend. I have a 1999 formula z 670 and i had a break lever go bad on me there is a 0 Ring in the break lever i noticed it leaking out of the handle it self so only thing U can do is limp it back to camp suggest looking over the whole breaking system every time you go out nothing you can do once it happens. great videos happy trails my friend
Blake from MICHIGAN.
Thanks Blake. Stay safe, have fun...winter is back in my neck o the woods.
Not only brake failure, but traveling too fast for conditions and not being able to stop in time. Had a spot a few weekends ago where the trails were decent shape, until got to a water bar that was way worse than anything we'd been across. Locked up, full skid, ended up nearly sideways. Have a plan at all times. Sled was able to roll through and turned out to be alright, for me. Could've been much worse.
Pump the brakes, don't full lock as it loads the track up with snow. Easier said than done.
Hey MSR...thanks for the comment. Riding according to the conditions is always sound advice.
True My little brother skidded rate into my dads friend a few days ago he wasn't paying attention and he was going to fast to stop
I bought a 97 skidoo grand touring SE and the brakes locked on while I was in the middle of a trail and almost caused a fire (glowing red brake disc). Good tip for that is to check for a clogged return line in master cylinder. It is very tiny and easy to clog if your brake fluid is dirty. Another reason to change brake fluid regularly! Just thought I'd mention another type of brake failure that can happen...
Hey Corey. Great point, thanks for the comment. Will mention it when I do another brake video.
Great and thanks for all your videos, they have been extremely helpful especially since I have a very similar sled.
Thanks man this just happend to me on a 97 ski doo formula z 583. Gonna check for clogged return for master cylinder! Thanks man!!
Great video as always but what if u did a video of the opposite what if you're throttle sticks?
It would be a really short video. I'd either hit the kill switch, or hit a tree. :)
Just had total brake failure. My pads went out and had no brakes for 15 miles. I was scared shitless.
On old S Chassis Ski Doo sleds like the MXZ in this video and my Formula Z I have. Do change your fluid per the manual and flush the system well! Too many fires have burned up classic sleds like ours because the fluid return line gets plugged and the brake stays engaged on the rotor. Think of the Nascar brakes on TV when you see them glowing red hot when they use them. This happens on the snowmobile when the fluid does not release the pressure! Easy to clean the return line using a paperclip or needle. You'll know if you smell a belt burning scent while riding and the sled has no real power.
if u are on a newer sled and going down a decent, u can try to countersteer and put the sled on edge and stop, there are alot of videos on downhill decent, works best if the snow is deeper
Thanks for the tip Crodles
Hold the throttle on a little the belt can slow down the sled
You shod do a video on replacing carbides on the skis, thanks
Will do thanks for the suggestion Darian.
Darian Pennington I was going to ask the same question lol
No problem... good talking to you again keep up the good work
It's not hard just flip the sled over and have someone hold it and normally 3 bolts pull of the old ones and put on the know ones it's really easy
Ha coulden t agree more I have got on my friends seld and went wtf! No breaks always good to check b4 riding lol
Growing up I never really used the brake, I just relied on the engine to slow down, never went too fast and planned out the braking. It’s definitely slower but in a pinch the sled can do it
Idont use the brake much either, but if something runs in front of me, i’ll want it there. :)
none of our sleds had brakes either. Rode one that had it and ended up spinning on the road in a circle
hey Dave you do a video on where to tow a snowmobile properly yet? We know,but maybe others dont.
On the list.
It's sad how much experience we have with towing sleds
@@ablink6002 It seems way to often for me. I'm getting pretty good at fixing it enough to get it home though. Maybe in a few years I'll have it all gone through lol
I actually had the opposite happen. The small hole in the master cylinder is the return for the fluid when releasing the brake lever. That hole got clogged up and the brakes locked up on me. The rotor was red hot and I couldn't move at all!! Had to use snow to put out the small fire the heat caused. Was able to loosen the bleeder on the caliper and had to drive home with no brakes. Yearly maintenance is so important.
Absolutely. Regular brake fluid change is important. Thanks for the comment. Glad it worked out.
I just had this happen to me, how did you repair your brakes after?
just opened up my brake fluid canister and it was definetly low. Only bought the sled in May, I guess the screws were sooo tight in there cuz it's been a while since it had been opened.
It's good you checked it.
I rode a 73 TNT without brakes for 2 years in high school. If you know ahead of time and you aren't going over 40mph, you can manage it. But mostly you don't want to go over 25mph. You can use the tips of your boots to create drag to help slow you down. I have 3 MXZs and one needs brake work. The lever goes 3/4 of the way to the handlebars before it reacts but Its been fine to ride. I also have a 94 Mach 1 that has broken brakes... But its also not running so no danger there. lol
If I had any vehicle that stopping relied on me driving a certain speed and knowing ahead of time when I had to stop, I would keep it parked
@@MyOldSled I 100% agree. Being able to manage it didn't mean it was safe or smart. These days I don't even trust the MXZ to have worn brakes. I didn't notice until this year how much worse it was than my other sleds so I already scheduled the service at the local dealer. These days I don't run anything that doesn't have every single feature operational, right down to handwarmers and new safety lanyards. But as a teenager I wasn't above riding a sled that was missing all gauges and its headlight. Eventually I got everything on those old sleds running too, including the brakes. That old TNT was never ridden more than a mile or so from home on more or less flat trails. But I don't recommend anyone try it, especially with a modern 500lb sled. Those old early 70s sleds were smaller and only weighed about 300lbs. They still had bogey wheels instead of a skid with sliders back then. Now that I think about it, those probably caused a lot of drag on their own as they were just as ancient as the sled was.
I am new to snowmobiling just bought my first sled. a 1994 Polaris indy 440 and a heard a lot of people say to check the hyfax it is a wear item right? I was just wondering how to check, how to tell when it needs to be replaced and how to replace it?
Hi, Andrew. Sorry for the delay. Yes, the sliders or Hyfax are a wear item. To be accurate, they are called a Runner Shoe on the Skidoo parts diagram. The clips ride on them and they are meant to wear out instead of the runners in the rear suspension. They have a wear indicator that runs along the side. You can see it anywhere you check and when the slider is worn to there, you need to change it. I will do a video eventually, but they don't need changing yet. There is a screw toward the front of the runner that you remove, then you can align one of the windows in the track and slide it backward. Then you just cut the new one to the same length and tap it back on. It's pretty easy, they can sometimes be a bit stubborn, but you can hit them with penetrating oil.
Something else that is scary to deal with is blowing a track. Just watch any youtube video of someone blowing their track. You have no brakes and you coast (sometimes a longs ways) to a stop, especially if ripping across crusty snow in an open field or on a lake.
Oh, I can imagine. It's critical to maintain and inspect a sled thoroughly and frequently.
Where in Ontario are you it would be really cool if you did a big meat up
North of Wiarton on the Bruce. Weather is unpredictable and makes that tough but there are lots of poker runs and club events you could attend. Keep an eye on my facebook page and I'll try to post any I am going to.
Sorry to be the grammar police but I'm pretty sure you meant to say big meet up and not big meat up. Sorry couldn't help by pointing that out as the latter made me laugh.
3:40 your only about 15 minutes away for me.
Hey Great Video. I have a question I currently own a 99 MXZ 600(Great sled). In the future I would like to install under glow/ lights on it. But being The year and model there is no Electric start that for no battery would you happen to know on how to wire that up whether it may be to the headlights or something else thanks
Not sure what the lights need. If they require dc, you'd need a rectifier. AC, then sure the lighting circuit would be fine. Check my video on hooking up a GPS.
My Old Sled appreciate the help
Would you be willing to do a viewer meet up where all the viewers go riding with you
I wouldn't have room for everyone ;) but maybe we could meet at up at a local event. Are you in Ontario?
My Old Sled no I am from New Hampshire
My brakes failed on my 76 Polaris when the trotle stuck. I ended up bailing off because of a large drop and semi frozen water. Glad I did because sled fell 50 feet
Wow. Did you get a new sled?
@@MyOldSled yes. I now have a 583 formula plus and a Mach 1 670. But i repaired it and it works fine now
I have 1997 Polaris Indy 500. I was out riding and lost my brakes but I was out on a lake so I was lucky. The brake light switch broke and leaked all my fluid out! Not a good deal but simple fix.
Does your oil light come on when u hit the brakes
Which sled? On the 600 rev, the parking light also lights when the oil is low.
Oh sorry, yes.
what do you think of Handel bar risers?
Hi, Wyatt. Even though I like to keep my sled stock, I think risers are great from a functional perspective. They give you more leverage for counter steering etc when you're in the deep stuff, and from a standing position, they're much easier to ride.
My Old Sled thank you love your vids. keep up the good work
Thanks very much.
Yea I was comeing up to a road and my sled did not stop so I suck my feet out
Like Fred Flintstone
Thx that help me out.
If you blow a chain you lose your brakes it happened man was that sled hard to tow down the hills
Yep. That's one of the reasons I went through the braking system and talked about the chaincase. Thanks for the comment.
+My Old Sled ya it happened twice to the same sled first time we where on a lake and had to tow it out second time we where in the middle of no where and in the hills
flip the choke on full it acts some what as an engine brake
Hi Bill. Few thoughts on that. Reaching for a choke would be no less of a distraction the hitting the kill switch. Also, All that does is restrict the air flow to the carb, which would just make it run poorly or stall. Wouldn't easing the throttle be an easier way to decrease engine speed anyway?
OMG U HAVE A S10 JUST LIKE ME....... they suck in snow tho
My Blazer? I love mine in the snow, and where I am, I drive in some serious snow.
looks like a s10 lol mine is 2wd and is super light bad for snow lol
Mines a Chev Blazer, 4WD. I bought it when I moved up here so I'd have something good in the snow. This is my 4th winter with it. Love it.
You should make a video of your blazer 😂
I never have to fix anything..."Welcome back to the channel. Today, I'm going to drive my blazer into town for coffee" seems boring :)
I'm thinking about doing some boating / sailing stuff in the summer.