45 years to Zia’s coup & how his is the most lasting impact on India, Pakistan & the world

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  • Marking the 45th anniversary of the Military Coup staged by Zia ul-Haq on 5th July 1977, Shekhar Gupta in episode1033 of #CutTheClutter looks at the legacy of the former President of Pakistan and what made him the most important personality in the subcontinent.
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  • @ThePrintIndia
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    • @shreekantkumarsahu9570
      @shreekantkumarsahu9570 Рік тому

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    • @commodusmeridius4718
      @commodusmeridius4718 Рік тому +1

      Both zias
      One in Bd another in Pak

    • @VijayKumar-gr3ld
      @VijayKumar-gr3ld Рік тому

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    • @sunitarana8921
      @sunitarana8921 Рік тому

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    • @sharique38
      @sharique38 Рік тому

      you are godi media

  • @srikanthxxxxx
    @srikanthxxxxx Рік тому +206

    "Partyless democracy is like non-alcoholic beer" 😂. Good god, Shekhar ji. Gimme 20k and I'll come work for you.

    • @adityask277
      @adityask277 Рік тому +3

      He is a man of culture✌️😂😂

    • @fretted4life
      @fretted4life Рік тому +5

      Having tried non-alcoholic despite not liking beer at all. I'd rather have alcoholic beer with tht bitter taste.

    • @sundareshkrishna6457
      @sundareshkrishna6457 Рік тому +4

      I will work free…… but beer will be on SG sir, not non alcoholic one at that….

    • @LonDanDoc
      @LonDanDoc Рік тому

      Wait 20k a month or year. And rupee's? Dollars? Pounds?

    • @kimcantswim174
      @kimcantswim174 Рік тому +6

      @@LonDanDoc Twenty thousand camels. One time payment.

  • @sankalp6872
    @sankalp6872 Рік тому +245

    Why the obsession with Zia? Interesting, how people like to find one person/event to lay the blame upon. Pakistan was rotten long before Zia. Pakistan was never a country. It was a "jaagir" for Muslim elites who feared economic/political alienation in a "secular" India. Jinnah was merely a broker. Once religious "high" was over, these elites pinned the obsession of people on Kashmir and India. It was none other than the "secular" Bhutto who declared the "thousand years war" against India which was later shaped into "Bleed India by thousand cuts" by Zia. So when people blame Zia for fundamentalism, they are wrong. Pakistan was born out of fundamentalism.

    • @rajput2736
      @rajput2736 Рік тому +6

      very gd observation... 👍

    • @Earlytorise89
      @Earlytorise89 Рік тому

      This.

    • @drunkenmonk2767
      @drunkenmonk2767 Рік тому +12

      He is trying very hard to get in good books of LeLi gang, this is my observation cause he was fairly neutral untill 2017 but something happened in '19 which seems making him rally towards LeLi...

    • @sdp2792
      @sdp2792 Рік тому +1

      Very well put.

    • @secularcommieturdpracharak8321
      @secularcommieturdpracharak8321 Рік тому +11

      After I finish watching CTC, I always make sure I scroll down to read your astute observations on various topics...I think you should write opinion pieces in the Print
      Keep them comments coming

  • @homayuns2165
    @homayuns2165 Рік тому +110

    I am originally from Afghanistan but live in USA . I really appreciate your analysis. That was probably one of the major events of the 20th century after world war 1 and 2.

    • @unibks4382
      @unibks4382 Рік тому

      The Grand Indus Army owns, occupies and ru(i)ns Pakistan enforcing Britain's messianic ideology in the region of everlasting hostility towards Russia (The Great Game) for a fistful of $$$ and a few $$$ more. India, Afghanistan, Central Asia, China and Russia should form a strategic alliance to liberate the Indus Valley from British & US influence and then aim for Eurasian Integration to overtake the US as the most powerful economic, military and political power in the world. ua-cam.com/video/Bwvl5gGrmdA/v-deo.html

  • @sameeransari6649
    @sameeransari6649 Рік тому +21

    Under Zia rule Pakistan lost siachin glacier to indian army in 1984 and Benazir even offered her bangles to Zia and Pakistan army for humiliated defeat in siachin

  • @GinzaGeorge
    @GinzaGeorge Рік тому +8

    This is incredible. Thanks for taking time to put this out for us.

  • @nihalpathak3407
    @nihalpathak3407 Рік тому +71

    If not Zia there would have been some other person to fill his shoes. The mentality he represented was always there, which is quite evident from that country's history before Zia (1947-1977). In 1971 they killed 3 million Bengalis, attacked India several times. They also had already used their non state actors during 1947 and 65 wars. They had already banned Ahmadiya sect. I also don't agree with you on Jinnah. He said different things to different people on different occasions. What actually matters is not his words but his actions.

    • @bharatindian6633
      @bharatindian6633 Рік тому +5

      Zia impacted the Indian librandus only, no one else in india.

    • @HashiramaSenyu
      @HashiramaSenyu Рік тому

      3 million Bengalis !!!

    • @parth1511
      @parth1511 Рік тому +1

      Correct CIA might have brought some other stooge.

  • @tharunreddy24
    @tharunreddy24 Рік тому +174

    This episode has completely misplaced timing and priority. We have discussed Zia many times in prior episodes. We could have discussed Shinzo Abe's death and it's impact on certain policies that Japanese government may take, rupee crisis and why we are not exporting as much as we aim for, Sri Lanka's govt collapse and what can be a permanent solution to its financial crisis etc etc.

    • @ashwinghadvir9109
      @ashwinghadvir9109 Рік тому

      Aggred ,Shinzo abe!!!,

    • @Sid-MMA
      @Sid-MMA Рік тому +7

      Andh bhakt's comment .

    • @kishoremandyam8245
      @kishoremandyam8245 Рік тому +5

      Buddy it is apt and much needed for Indian youngsters because
      YOGI LIKELY TO FOLLOW IN SAME PATH working with Democrats of USA
      BUT WITH WAY WORSE CONSEQUENCES FOR INDIA , ASIA AND THE WORLD
      Kamala will want to use Yogi against China Like Carter used Zia against USSR, BUT this war won't be just minor but likely to lead to nuclear apocalyptic ww3

    • @RahulSharma-jm9ir
      @RahulSharma-jm9ir Рік тому

      @@kishoremandyam8245 bro let him became prime minister first. you are making so much assumptions

    • @kishoremandyam8245
      @kishoremandyam8245 Рік тому +2

      @@RahulSharma-jm9ir just like Bhutto had picked Zia over many seniors Modi / Rss will pick Yogi same way
      That also will be similar to Zia story

  • @jeweltilak767
    @jeweltilak767 Рік тому +34

    Zia looks like a Bollywood villain

    • @srinivasrao941
      @srinivasrao941 Рік тому +8

      Exactly.

    • @unibks4382
      @unibks4382 Рік тому

      He's a sepoy Third Class.

    • @Deb_deCoder
      @Deb_deCoder Рік тому

      villian is far better.. he was a back-stabber who won trust of bhutto, then bhutto promoted him and lastly he kyld that same man bhutto with fake charges.. all within 3 years.. pak history is full of traitors like this.. Iskander mirza, the great-grandson of mirzafar, also betrayed gulam mohammad to get presidency, mirza dismissed gulam while gulam set him as acting governor before going to hospital for treatment.. most mullahs are like this.. never trust any of them

  • @DubAGoor98
    @DubAGoor98 Рік тому +24

    Thanks! Keep up the good work shekarji especially cut the clutter and national interest

    • @ThePrintIndia
      @ThePrintIndia  Рік тому +2

      Hi, thanks for you feedback and supporting our channel.

  • @aliiqbal6310
    @aliiqbal6310 Рік тому +36

    One important thing which I guess should be highlighted is that he used the time during soviet war very smartly by building nuclear weapons technology very quickly, he knew that right now americans need him to defeat soviets so he used this opportunity and made quick progress to build nuclear weapons and Americans remained mum in this time period.

    • @civilp2689
      @civilp2689 Рік тому +3

      he was anti-islamic

    • @thyagarajanriyer3284
      @thyagarajanriyer3284 Рік тому +6

      net result is he ruined pakistan forever by injecting radicalisation🤣🤣🤣

    • @thyagarajanriyer3284
      @thyagarajanriyer3284 Рік тому +1

      Education, economic prosperity, innovation, communal harmony, freedom for citizens etc. make the country progress fast. Such a country becomes useful for rest of the world.
      In case any of these are absent and if such a country has just nuclear weapons, then such a country becomes a pure headache for the world.
      Such countries will be gradually destroyed by rest of the world by using the leaders of the country itself.
      Example - North Korea, Pakistan, Russia.

    • @jameshardley9793
      @jameshardley9793 10 місяців тому +1

      Nuke program was established and started by ZA Bhutto long before Manhoos Zia took over. That was a major reasons for Bhutto hanging and murder by ZIA. Bhutto had built the Lab and left at least 300 million dollars cash, Zia had no choice but to continue. He destroyed Pakistan

  • @prasiddhanarayansaurabh9239
    @prasiddhanarayansaurabh9239 Рік тому +54

    It's contradictory to state that Zia "Islamized" Pakistan; The very premise of Pakistan was political Islam; All Zia might have done is to instutionalize that!

    • @unibks4382
      @unibks4382 Рік тому

      Pakistan was created just after the start of the Cold War as a military base for Britain and its allies to continue The Great Game against Russia.

    • @dineshpratapupadhyay6583
      @dineshpratapupadhyay6583 Рік тому +5

      Exactly!

    • @zaina5569
      @zaina5569 Рік тому

      Same with Bangladesh? They’re pretty secular bro….please read jinnahs speeches before proclaiming your verdicts, ugh

    • @prasiddhanarayansaurabh9239
      @prasiddhanarayansaurabh9239 Рік тому +8

      @@zaina5569 speeches don't count boy, actions do! We know what was the feelings of jinnah for Hindus, with him announcing "direct action"!
      Hindus have shrunk from 14%to 8% in Bangladesh ! Too much for secularism ya!

    • @khanf13
      @khanf13 Рік тому +2

      I’m Pakistani and I don’t understand why some Indians will push this narrative Jinnah wanted a secular state. Jinnah wanted political Islam, he just didn’t live long enough to write the constitution.

  • @veteran4226
    @veteran4226 Рік тому +14

    Gen Zia ul Haq (mard e mujhahid) was the person who dug the grave of Pakistan. And he did his work quiet efficiently, I must say.

  • @peterhumphrys
    @peterhumphrys Рік тому +5

    This was a very informative presentation, I really enjoy listening to Shekhar's analyses.

  • @suneel7053
    @suneel7053 Рік тому +52

    SG sir. Thank you very much for the fantastic history explainer. Also may I suggest Sri Lanka protests as a topic for any upcoming CTC episode. Thank you sir.

    • @ThePrintIndia
      @ThePrintIndia  Рік тому +1

      Hi Sunil, thanks for writing in with your valuable feedback.

  • @Drkp23
    @Drkp23 Рік тому +44

    Surprising that SG sir didn’t choose to talk about assassinated ex president ABE … which would have been contemporary topic

    • @wewerealiensandsheets75
      @wewerealiensandsheets75 Рік тому +1

      What is there to talk about the assassination of Mr Abe ? It is already out

    • @wewerealiensandsheets75
      @wewerealiensandsheets75 Рік тому +2

      @Mreizrq_Zqhruma I mean pakistan military general who is actually responsible for promoting global terrorism is far more important to me than Abe

    • @shamshudashamshuda6258
      @shamshudashamshuda6258 Рік тому

      Coz,we should know those responsible for creating confusion n caous,even world leaders today who are terrorist in nature Should be brought b4 public
      What about those responsible for spoiling Iraq afg in the name of terrorism, just coz you are well equipped ,you can't wage war on innocent people.
      Wait n watch what God has his plans for arrogant boasters

  • @nishankpatil7404
    @nishankpatil7404 Рік тому +64

    Dear Shekhar sa'ab
    Please make CTC on internal politics of China, prospects of Mr Xi's third term, also please convey the message how powerful/weak is China currently in backdrop of Evergrande/economic slowdown/taming of business tycoons etc.
    Is anti-Xi coalition is cropping up?
    Yours faithfully
    Watching CTC since 2019

    • @ravindra7791
      @ravindra7791 Рік тому +4

      Nobody knows what is happening in China. Not even the best China watchers in West or even many Chinese. SG might not be in a position to do this analysis.

    • @1525boy
      @1525boy Рік тому +2

      @@ravindra7791 Exactly, how is SG supposed to have that information? I’m not sure anyone outside China 🇨🇳 has that information.

  • @EmilNicolaiePerhinschi
    @EmilNicolaiePerhinschi Рік тому +3

    Thank you, great history lesson put in context, this is the first time these things make sense to me.

    • @ThePrintIndia
      @ThePrintIndia  Рік тому +1

      Hi,
      Glad it was helpful! Thank you for your contribution to our channel.

  • @dandmello5283
    @dandmello5283 Рік тому +3

    ❤ Love to ShekarGupta for his uncanny but truly a Educative for sure.. the profession of a
    Dedicated Journalists

  • @secularcommieturdpracharak8321
    @secularcommieturdpracharak8321 Рік тому +10

    Pakistan is not a country it's a mindset ~ JSD

    • @srinivasrao941
      @srinivasrao941 Рік тому +4

      Agree, but mindsets are bound to change.

    • @Unknown-or2vu
      @Unknown-or2vu Рік тому

      @@srinivasrao941 islam will always be within pakistan

  • @indermohansinghmalhotra3730
    @indermohansinghmalhotra3730 Рік тому +2

    Fabulous recapitulation & analysis! 👍

  • @ajmersingh3043
    @ajmersingh3043 Рік тому +5

    Pakistan`s Zia ul-Haq was stationed in Jordan from 1967 to 1970 as a Brigadier.Pakistani and Jordanian army massacred twenty-five thousand Palestinians in Jordan`s refugee camp when they rioted because of poor living conditions.The dreadful event is known as "Black September"

  • @bling97
    @bling97 Рік тому +1

    Excellent Excellent episode... i watch cut d clutter before going to sleep...extremely satisfied vd d knowledge gained...

  • @rahulranjan1926
    @rahulranjan1926 Рік тому +18

    I have taken the subscription today and feels great to watch this CtC as a member, first. Guys do take the print's subscription to support unbiased, uninfluenced journalsim.

    • @chanakyabharat756
      @chanakyabharat756 Рік тому +8

      I'm a subscriber too but don't think all print members are neutral, I took subscription for Shekhar ji, DK , NP but completely ignore Sanghvi and Jyothi who openly show bias.

    • @impedimenta934
      @impedimenta934 Рік тому

      they dont claim to be unbiased. They claim to be honest and fair, there is a difference that, a person who watches Indian television media cannot understand. Nobody can be unbiased, everyone has an ideology, and even Judges are not unbiased. People have to understand the difference between blatant propaganda and truth.

    • @rvnrr
      @rvnrr Рік тому

      Shekhar is good. Closest to an unbiased view. But Print is like other MSM.

    • @impedimenta934
      @impedimenta934 Рік тому

      @@rvnrr The print is shekhar and Shekhar is the print

  • @sirajuddinchanda3818
    @sirajuddinchanda3818 Рік тому +9

    As far his impact on India is concerned, I think it was his policy on Khalistan movement. But I didn’t see any mention of it in your article.

  • @ZaidBinFarooq
    @ZaidBinFarooq Рік тому +16

    As usual a good brief on Pakistani politics from Shehkar sb. Loved the way he always add a story to the whole context.

  • @pharaohakhneton9553
    @pharaohakhneton9553 Рік тому +18

    Islam in Pakistan has produced strange and contradictory characters . Bhutto , a Democrat sow the seeds of islamization, which was further nurtured by a still peculiar character in uniform , Zia-Ul-Haque ,who turned his country into a modern global jihadi centre. So effective, it is the Bhutto ,who is the father and grand-master of jihadi outfits with Zia as his disciple. But at the centte of it all is the Islam as the driving for for both of them.
    2). Like Mughals, succession has never been peaceful in Pakistan since its birth. In this the Pakistanis are emulating mughals, if not in culture.

    • @totensrabon1885
      @totensrabon1885 Рік тому

      Mughals built this subcontinent & most of them were secular to the core... You probably blinded by your hateful Hindutva ideology, but that Doesn't change the history.

    • @millennialmind9507
      @millennialmind9507 Рік тому

      West bengal political succession has a similar story 🤔🧐?

    • @srinivasrao941
      @srinivasrao941 Рік тому

      Maybe “Allah” will send another dictator to set things right.

    • @Aiasmor
      @Aiasmor Рік тому

      Mughals would spit on Pakistan, and I say this as a Sikh.

  • @HarshadContractor
    @HarshadContractor Рік тому +31

    Superb analysis, Shekar Ji, I re-learned this conversion to fundamentalist Islamism, today, through your analysis. Salute you, Sir.

  • @Arwar555
    @Arwar555 Рік тому +18

    Indira Gandhi. She is THE WOMAN!! May she rest in peace. As a Bangladeshi i absolutely loved that woman. She in her saree did all the globe trotting to help form Bangladesh. Many lives were saved by her due to her actions. Far far far more important than Zia ul Haq.!!!

    • @sanjaycharan4682
      @sanjaycharan4682 Рік тому +6

      I agree with you 100%

    • @raghunandan9290
      @raghunandan9290 11 місяців тому

      Angoke could have broken Pakistan.
      Its the army which did job
      India has great institutions.
      Credit can't be given to one man

    • @dk-zp5ze
      @dk-zp5ze 7 місяців тому

      @@raghunandan9290 it was a tactical decision by Indira Gandhi with army chief sam manekshaw. it's either this or huge cost rehabilitating the refugees

  • @vkchoudhary1960
    @vkchoudhary1960 Рік тому +10

    "Partyless democracy is like a non-alcoholic beer"😊😊

  • @sandy3426143
    @sandy3426143 Рік тому +5

    “Not just to his country, but his nation!” - SG 2

  • @garvitbhardwaj
    @garvitbhardwaj Рік тому +6

    Gupta ji should write a book on his journalist career experience

  • @mozammelhoque7435
    @mozammelhoque7435 Рік тому +2

    You are absolutely right.
    Thanks
    Toronto.

  • @jackshrimp
    @jackshrimp Рік тому +1

    Thanks SG, for a gr8 analysis!! What a world of difference from the other channels of Lallu n Panju, Nation wants to know, No spin, Big Debate etc

  • @sujalgarewal2685
    @sujalgarewal2685 Рік тому +1

    Mr Gupta, pls archive your cut the clutters, they are a goldmine. We will need this for the future.

  • @Sid-MMA
    @Sid-MMA Рік тому +3

    Very interesting. Shekhar has unmatched political insight.

  • @rishabh3270
    @rishabh3270 Рік тому +2

    What a superb analysis Shekhar Sir!! 👏

  • @kashyapnegandhi
    @kashyapnegandhi Рік тому +2

    Really good analysis which is usually missed by a lot of who don’t did too much into why something had happened and who were the players and politics behind the event.

  • @partharora8506
    @partharora8506 Рік тому +22

    Nah, I have to disagree with you on this one. Neither did Nehru, Indira, or Zia had the most lasting impact. It has to be narasimha rao, Nothing comes near to the path he set up for us in 1991, it has led us to where we are now and where we will be in the future.

  • @AnilKumar-um4dg
    @AnilKumar-um4dg Рік тому +2

    Art of Story Telling!!! SG sir, superb!!

  • @GururajBN
    @GururajBN Рік тому +18

    Basic cause of all the miseries in the world today is traceable to Islam. The day Islam was born is the most unfortunate day in the history of the mankind. Why blame Zias, Aurangzeb, khalji, Ghazni and tughlaqs? Islam sanctified violence.

    • @srinivasrao941
      @srinivasrao941 Рік тому +2

      Hinduism is the most violent religion, not Islam, the issue is that Islam did not define “Jihad”.

    • @samirsyed2859
      @samirsyed2859 Рік тому +1

      Not necessarily….

    • @Bollywood_Hater
      @Bollywood_Hater Рік тому

      Monkey worshippers 🤣

    • @Theflowerpot867
      @Theflowerpot867 20 днів тому

      That's a sad mentality to have really

  • @aspmusic5904
    @aspmusic5904 Рік тому +2

    Very eyeopening episode, Shekharji. Great anecdotes too.

  • @veenjharmemon8097
    @veenjharmemon8097 Рік тому +6

    I am from Pakistan and I must say that Mr. Shekhar has a great understanding of Pakistani politics. Zia continues to haunt us all.

    • @Unknown-or2vu
      @Unknown-or2vu Рік тому

      No he don’t be quite

    • @jameshardley9793
      @jameshardley9793 10 місяців тому

      @@Unknown-or2vu -----he was your soul mate, But he was the worst thing ever happened to Pakistan

  • @daddashikamani
    @daddashikamani Рік тому +4

    There are some common misconceptions peddled here by SG.
    Jinnah didn't intend Pak to be Islamic state and said so in 1947. However, Jinnah retracted his statement soon after and said in Jan 11 in Karachi Bar Association: "I could not understand a section of people who deliberately wanted to create mischief and made a propaganda that the constitution of Pakistan would not be made on the basis of Shariat.”
    Sharia based Constitution cannot be considered Secular.

    • @ashishsunny7963
      @ashishsunny7963 Рік тому

      Pakistan was formed as "Islamic Republic of Pakistan".
      If its an islamic republic, then it can never be a secular nation.

    • @chandrakanthotkar7262
      @chandrakanthotkar7262 Рік тому

      Just like Quran, People take what they are good with it.
      Jinnah made two opposite statements on same points.
      Islamist refer to Constitution based on Sharia.
      And secular refer to his other speech.
      In the conflict, As of now Islamist has won in Pakistan.
      I don't see changes in nation for next 20 years.
      Salafi and Wahabi movement destroyed South Asia.

  • @ravisehgal.2694
    @ravisehgal.2694 Рік тому +4

    Today only Me & A friend both Army Veterans discussed this Chap. Issue is the present generation is unaware how things changed during the period.

  • @MUMBAIKAR_ADITYA
    @MUMBAIKAR_ADITYA Рік тому +6

    Zia ul Haq Was the One who made truly Islam Religion of Peace into Piece
    For themselves & also for rest of the World....

    • @srinivasrao941
      @srinivasrao941 Рік тому +2

      Because Islam has an undefined definition “Jihad”.

  • @rajeshtanwar2445
    @rajeshtanwar2445 Рік тому

    SG Sir,
    Wow!!!
    This post facto analysis of yours on General ZiaulHaque of Pakistan, is 360 degrees comprehensive.
    Your research is commendable.

  • @crawfordsmith3700
    @crawfordsmith3700 Рік тому +6

    Dear Sir ~
    I thank you for your presentation. It provides a clear perspective upon a complicated history across multiple cultures , societies and politics.

  • @subhashvyas3877
    @subhashvyas3877 Рік тому +1

    Appreciate your knowledge on many subjects .also ypur unusual analysis, sir congratulations and respect

  • @vaibhavgupta7197
    @vaibhavgupta7197 Рік тому +36

    Even Government of India, does not give this much focus, attention to Pakistan and Pakistani politics, that Shekar Gupta (CTC) does.

    • @abhijitsharma7425
      @abhijitsharma7425 Рік тому +5

      lol read some books my guy

    • @srinivasrao941
      @srinivasrao941 Рік тому +7

      Because Pakistan is our internal issue.

    • @psr4550
      @psr4550 Рік тому

      Han tereko jaise bahut pata hai, chodu

    • @sumondutta1101
      @sumondutta1101 Рік тому

      RAW would have a bunch scholars on every country of interest.

    • @sivag2032
      @sivag2032 Рік тому

      SG is patron of Pak like sanjay manjerakar in cricket.

  • @nadeemafzal4698
    @nadeemafzal4698 Рік тому +35

    Being a Pakistani, I appreciate your in-depth knowledge about Pakistan and giving your time to topics related to Pakistan
    Although at time you become unnecessarily patriotic when talking about Pakistan but it’s completely natural
    Overall I appreciate your Analysis...

    • @guurindersinghsfather1068
      @guurindersinghsfather1068 Рік тому

      At least "unnecessarily patriotic" people have forex reserves of 590 billion dollars not like bankrupt "unnecessarily r@dical" g-hadists who don't have money to import tea

    • @nadeemafzal4698
      @nadeemafzal4698 Рік тому

      @@guurindersinghsfather1068
      Your comment is a true example of unnecessary patriotism (in your case it is fake hyper nationalism)
      Indians are not realizing that in the world India has lost its soft power. It’s dangerous for the fabric of secular India.

    • @jaspeeetkaur5608
      @jaspeeetkaur5608 Рік тому +16

      Basic moral of the story was, the day Pakistan was made Pakistani wanted to loot its money, not a single good person ruled their and nobody thought they need to work on “ law” social structure education health or science… end result is in 2022 Pakistan is on edge of bankruptcy
      So we can define Pakistan as from “1947 to 2022” that’s life story of a land made on the name of islam, land got destroyed on the name of islam
      Basically allah k liye paida huye , allah allah krte mar gye .. bich bich main bas aas pados ko dukhi kia …

    • @abidfarooqui-sla3301
      @abidfarooqui-sla3301 Рік тому +4

      @@jaspeeetkaur5608 Kind of true. But don't be overjoyed. India's debt is USD 620 billion versus 122 billion for Pakistan. Per Capita each Indian owes 4 times that of Pakistan. Foreign currency reserves and issues that Pakistan has can be solved. Indian debt to GDP has been heading the wrong way and has been under Modi but a level of misdirection solves many problems in politics. Old politician trick.

    • @psr4550
      @psr4550 Рік тому

      @@abidfarooqui-sla3301 Han aur bhok le, hum bhik ni mangte imf se lodu

  • @AlidelOro
    @AlidelOro Рік тому +1

    Gupta Ji you are a rockstar! Keep up the good work 👍🏼

  • @Rehan-di8bm
    @Rehan-di8bm Рік тому

    Who is the congressman who said the quote @ 21:55

  • @thecherrytree6322
    @thecherrytree6322 Рік тому

    Unbelievable facts😳
    It (though brief) changes my perspective of the ground reality; on the consequences to global scene.

  • @sanjaybajare6371
    @sanjaybajare6371 Рік тому +11

    Sir why you people only talk about pakistan.not our states like South india

    • @shashikantbukalsaria7848
      @shashikantbukalsaria7848 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, I would rather like to see a discussion on Swargiya K. Kamaraj or Lokpriya Gopinath Bordoloi

    • @ashxz
      @ashxz Рік тому +3

      He's a north Indian living in Delhi. Most probably he would be more aware of the history of Pakistan than of either Noth Eastern or Southern India

    • @srinivasrao941
      @srinivasrao941 Рік тому

      Because Pakistan is our internal issue.

  • @rawalji
    @rawalji Рік тому

    Thanks for this historical story.

  • @MichelMawon4982
    @MichelMawon4982 Рік тому

    I love your stories. I think you're really good at it.

  • @1954Saleem
    @1954Saleem Рік тому +7

    Very well presented . Vajpayee's quote was most appropriate . Pakistan has been affected most by Zia .

  • @raw3165
    @raw3165 Рік тому +5

    More than Zia's coup, your coup was far more brutal, Coupta ji

    • @srinivasrao941
      @srinivasrao941 Рік тому

      I do not find a smiley in this stupid Iphone

  • @matineetime1940
    @matineetime1940 Рік тому +2

    He is remembering zia more than Pakistani media.

  • @slingblade8129
    @slingblade8129 Рік тому +2

    People here commenting that Pakistan was always a fundamentalist country should do some reading of subcontinental politics. While Pakistan was envisioned as a motherland for subcontinental Muslims, the founding fathers could hardly be called fundamentalists. In fact, early Pakistani leaders were very much from the same fabric as the early Indian leaders. The difference is that early Indian leaders did a good job of keeping the military professional, building fairly robust democratic institutions and avoiding fundamentalist blowback. Pakistan could not do that. And over time, the failure of the 'system' allowed the regression to fundamentalism.
    And those saying the anti-India POV in Pakistan stems from Islamic fundamentalism - I'd argue that by the same definition, the Afghan population (and the Middle East too) could also be construed as fundamentalists. Why isn't the anti-India sentiment as strong there as it is in Pakistan? Nepal is not an Islamic country, why is the anti-India sentiment so strong there? We must acknowledge that the Indo-Pak hostility has a historical/geopolitical/cultural aspect to it too. Calling Pakistan "rotten from the start" is an excuse to ignore the nuances of human character and history.

  • @dinabandhumudi4723
    @dinabandhumudi4723 Рік тому

    Sir please starting music change
    Achha nehi lagta

  • @Aryan-ye4mp
    @Aryan-ye4mp Рік тому +18

    You are to obsessed with Pakistan...
    There are many important topics within India and in geopolitics (except pakistan) as well...
    Enough of this jokistaan

    • @unibks4382
      @unibks4382 Рік тому

      The Great Game will spill over into India because of NATO warmongering.

    • @srinivasrao941
      @srinivasrao941 Рік тому

      Jokistan is our Internalistan.

    • @chandrakanthotkar7262
      @chandrakanthotkar7262 Рік тому +1

      How we can learn about religious fundamentalism if don't discuss the culprit.

  • @AnupInToronto
    @AnupInToronto Рік тому

    Sir Can you quote name of Congressman who said that ?

  • @rajendranathanmnair4122
    @rajendranathanmnair4122 Рік тому +11

    You have provided a real valuable insight into jehadi culture and it is a real threat in Kerala state where from funding is being provided for pan India operation other than may be in Bengal, Assam and J&K.

  • @sustainabledevelopment8965
    @sustainabledevelopment8965 Рік тому +2

    Jinnah did not imagine it to be a Islamic republic .. joke 😂

  • @murrayeldred3563
    @murrayeldred3563 Рік тому

    Excellent analysis. As per usual.

  • @guest999uii
    @guest999uii Рік тому +1

    Finally Pakistanis dancing till date of zia tunes 😅😂

  • @reddyguntuku1024
    @reddyguntuku1024 Рік тому +4

    Regarding Zia ul-Haq: Perhaps 'most consequential' not 'most important.'

  • @mehrxavia3128
    @mehrxavia3128 Рік тому +3

    I live in Pakistan, and sometimes I wonder will Pakistan Really Collapse just because of Economy, The answer is no. Why? Pakistan is never dependent on economy, The economy is for ruling elites to make more reserves, get luxury items, smuggle goods to AFG and other central states. There is no check and balance, Otherwise we see cheapest oil at some places as well, its just that is from Banned neighbors and is used by people to get extra benefit ( you know what I mean ). We see lots of $$ being traded by people in private sector, which is even more than people can imagine.
    Moral of story: Whenever Pakistan collapses it wont be because of economy and it never was an economy issue😅. It will be because of its ruling Elite.

  • @akaj188
    @akaj188 Рік тому +2

    When I was in college,( St. Stephen's College , Delhi, (1975-80) ,for some time, Presidents of both Pakistan ( Gen Zia ) and India ( Fakhrudin Ali Ahmad ) were ex-students of our college.

  • @SangoLifeSutras
    @SangoLifeSutras Рік тому

    Nice analysis

  • @maheshwarmahalle9003
    @maheshwarmahalle9003 Рік тому +4

    We should discuss more on china only barrier is
    Mandarin

    • @srinivasrao941
      @srinivasrao941 Рік тому

      No, Pakistan is our internal issue and until it is resolved we cannot get away from it.

  • @rvnrr
    @rvnrr Рік тому +1

    VP Singh also had an enduring impact given his brief tenure. Caste politics.

  • @kunalpriyadarshi345
    @kunalpriyadarshi345 Рік тому +1

    MJ Akbar has time and again argued that Islamization began under Ayub Khan.

  • @srinivasrao941
    @srinivasrao941 Рік тому +1

    I am going to watch this video so many times

  • @thatswhatshesaid7935
    @thatswhatshesaid7935 Рік тому +8

    SG sir There are many topics in India to cover 🙃🙏

  • @historyfromarchivestolimel8662

    ziaism is a lesson for India too. No matter what religion and state should be separated at any cost

  • @IqbalKhan-hn7ii
    @IqbalKhan-hn7ii 4 місяці тому

    Your analysis is great.

  • @imrantahir2950
    @imrantahir2950 Рік тому

    Very good analysis and research

  • @Liguritio
    @Liguritio Рік тому +9

    Every politician from Pakistan is a character. Times have changed now,
    Ab, IMF Nachayega, US chakrayega aur China Satayega.
    Sad that this Nation couldn’t give anything to the world except terror and destruction. Now its self destroying.

  • @prp3231
    @prp3231 Рік тому +2

    What a handsome fellow, fine facial hair and uniform to match? Pity his God couldn't protect him in the end 😂😂

  • @anujtewari8673
    @anujtewari8673 Рік тому

    May be you can do on Sunday a cut the clutter in Hindi
    And you can also try hindi subtitles

  • @ranajoysen6377
    @ranajoysen6377 Рік тому +1

    Dear Mr. Gupta:
    Thank you for the great presentation.
    Former Pakistani President and CMLA General Zia -ul - Haque was possibly the most skilled dictator to rule a country.
    He worked through the matrix of America-Soviet rivalry, enmity with India, and efforts to entrench his own power very effectively to determine results conducive for him.
    For quite some time matters went quite well for him. But, subsequently as is the case with almost all dictators, resentments started coming out like steam from a pressure cooker. Opposition to him was growing within the country, Russians were threating him, and relations with India reflected perpetuation of mistrust laced with surface courtesies.
    Perhaps most important was the collective aftermath of paranoia, tyranny, aggressive predilection, and religious extremism in Pakistan.
    His death from an unresolved plane crash was above all the aftermath of the social turbulence and orgy in Pakistan. The initiator tragically became its own victim, after causing misery for so many.
    As the world struggles with coping economic hardships, political high-handedness, and religious fundamentalism, we in India would have to keep devising methods to manage our relations with Pakistan effectively.
    After all, as the illustrious political commentator and editor, Inder Malhotra, once put it, India would have to learn to live with Pakistan as any less fortunate person does with a bad kidney.
    General Zia's long stint in power in Pakistan has made the India's relations with Pakistan more prolonged and more challenging.
    With Regards,
    Ranajoy Sen

  • @orunabho
    @orunabho Рік тому +44

    Overdose of Pakistan. There are 200 other countries and half a dozen neighbors.
    This obsession with Pakistan is now getting little irritating. Is it the punjabi obsession? Same thing that killed Pakistan.
    Maybe a discussion on Tamilnadu politics and their breakaway tendencies would be interesting or anything else.

    • @sundareshkrishna6457
      @sundareshkrishna6457 Рік тому +1

      It’s fascinating……continue SG sir, loved it……..btw….SG is not a Punjabi……..

    • @madhavsakariya6764
      @madhavsakariya6764 Рік тому +13

      "That's just like your opinion, man" (Said Lebowski).
      Pakistan is one of the most bizarre & interesting countries. Also a nuclear armed neighbour with common history. You can never have enough of Pakistan, even if you take only entertainment.

    • @AjayTiwari-en9nz
      @AjayTiwari-en9nz Рік тому +2

      Because there are lessons to learn from Pakistan.

    • @holywarrior5719
      @holywarrior5719 Рік тому

      SG is very right . Tamil Nadu is becoming another Bengal, an useless state

    • @unibks4382
      @unibks4382 Рік тому +1

      Britain's and NATO's obsession with the Great Game, everlasting hostility towards Russia, makes the Grand Indus Army that owns, occupies and ru(i)ns Pakistan, important.

  • @vivekanandholla6730
    @vivekanandholla6730 Рік тому +2

    Zia has in a sense brought Pakistan to its knees over time. Thank you for a nice video

  • @jasonparker7463
    @jasonparker7463 7 місяців тому

    Real words yours ...sir

  • @aftabahmad6099
    @aftabahmad6099 Рік тому +3

    I am not aware of the influence of Gen Zia on India but here in Pakistan the legacy of his impact has been a disastrous and still continue his legacy also included the Sharif brothers who consider him thier political father both of whom are corrupt & involved in Money Laundering

    • @kaidi_p
      @kaidi_p Рік тому

      the whole Khalistan project was Zia's gift to India

  • @HrishikeshKamath
    @HrishikeshKamath Рік тому

    Do make a episode about Shinzo Abe's too. Would love to have an brief about his tenure.

  • @jaibaba3848
    @jaibaba3848 Рік тому +5

    Pakistan was bound to go in that way. if not Zia ul haq, someone else would have taken them towards extreme Islamist ideology. Just like Afghanistan went back to extremism, paxtanis will also go the same way.

    • @srinivasrao941
      @srinivasrao941 Рік тому +1

      Not until another “ Zia” is sent by Allah, if at all.

  • @vladimirkrisnov4322
    @vladimirkrisnov4322 Рік тому

    Good journalism, congrats.

  • @atulkumartripathi7753
    @atulkumartripathi7753 Рік тому

    Informative

  • @neerajgautam8583
    @neerajgautam8583 Рік тому

    Brilliant analysis.

  • @amodpataskar5673
    @amodpataskar5673 Рік тому +1

    Dear SG the number of times you bang the paperwork you would have a broken table, a paperless work would be a great option

  • @AbhinavKaiser
    @AbhinavKaiser Рік тому

    Today is 5th July?

  • @subhashvyas3877
    @subhashvyas3877 Рік тому +1

    Even you agree that radicalism and fundamentalism any where will stop economic progress

  • @shauryakhatana
    @shauryakhatana Рік тому +1

    Pakistan called Fatima jinnah an Indian agent this is Pakistan’s legacy

  • @Evan3783
    @Evan3783 Рік тому +2

    Comeon Shekhar Ji.. look at Pak now. If he left a damn lasting so called legacy why is his country so backward now? Indian leaders on the contrary were poised and calm and lifted up the country.

  • @ramkrishnapandey4649
    @ramkrishnapandey4649 Рік тому +2

    Gupta Ji, your explanation truly effective and appreciated by one and all. I used to listen a lot about Jia ul Haq in our childhood.

  • @kirandeepchakraborty7921
    @kirandeepchakraborty7921 Рік тому

    Nice Mix of storytelling and Historical Nuance.