Can a Christian Lose Their Salvation

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 174

  • @DianapluckyTee
    @DianapluckyTee 2 роки тому +36

    I give them eternal life and they shall never persih, NO ONE WILL SNATCH THEM OUT OF MY HAND... John 10:28

    • @onward8231
      @onward8231 2 роки тому +4

      @@nylah12304 notice that Jesus says no one comes to Him unless The Father has called them, And that verse you quote says His sheep, they are His because The Father has called them

    • @DianapluckyTee
      @DianapluckyTee 2 роки тому

      @@nylah12304 His sheep hears His voice

    • @otiumsanctum7297
      @otiumsanctum7297 Рік тому +1

      @@nylah12304 we chose to follow him the moment we chose salvation but it doesn’t mean the work is done and we are perfect. It’s not a smooth road to sanctity. There are many bumps and bruises along the way. Sometimes it can take years to get rid of sin, like if you have a deep rooted addiction. Other sins are not as difficult to walk away from. For example someone with a proclivity to alcoholism vs someone who doesn’t. Caffeine is an addiction too. If you need it before your time with God in the morning then doesn’t it make that your idol? I don’t drink alcohol I’m not addicted to caffeine but I can’t seem to beat my smoking habit for the life of me. It’s a major stronghold bc it’s been part of my life for 30 years. I hope one day I can kick this habit for good. God knows our weaknesses, hearts, and ultimate desires and he is long suffering.

    • @arlmarcl.castilla523
      @arlmarcl.castilla523 11 місяців тому

      plot twist: the one on His hand can choose to leave Him. -.-

    • @leelee-yg7sk
      @leelee-yg7sk 11 місяців тому +1

      The Highest God of the highest gods give the ten commandments to all human that live all over the world. The ten commandments is knowledge of sins and the ten commandments show that all human that live all over the world break the ten commandment and all human in the world must be punish in hell fire for breaking the Ten Commandments. Unfortunately, human all over the world cannot keep the ten commandment to go to heaven and human cannot do anything or anywork to earn their way to heaven. The only way get out from the punishment in hell fire is to believe that The Highest God of the highest gods name Jesus was crucified and bore the sins of human all over the world in his own body on the cross and Jesus shed his blood on the cross to wash the sins of human all over the world away and Jesus suffer and died on the cross to clean human sins all over the world and Jesus was buried and Jesus rose from the dead on the third day. After faith come you will not be punish in hell fire forever and you can commit sins as many as you wish and will not go to hell fire because you have believed that The Highest God of the highest gods name Jesus was crucified and bore the sins of human all over the world in his own body on the cross and Jesus shed his blood on the cross to wash the sins of human all over the world away and Jesus suffer and died on the cross to clean human sins all over the world and Jesus was buried and Jesus rose from the dead on the third day. Good work and bad work and other things have no part in salvation which mean good work cannot save you from hell fire and good work cannot sent you to hell fire. bad works cannot save you from hell fire and bad work cannot sent you to hell fire. Other things cannot save you from hell fire and other things cannot sent you to hell fire. The only thing that sent human to go to hell fire is unbelieving and the only thing that save human from hell fire is believing that The Highest God of the highest gods name Jesus was crucified and bore the sins of human all over the world in his own body on the cross and Jesus shed his blood on the cross to wash the sins of human all over the world away and Jesus suffer and died on the cross to clean human sins all over the world and Jesus was buried and Jesus rose from the dead on the third day. For those who believed if you do good you will be reward but if you do bad you will suffer loss reward but you will never loss your salvation.

  • @Clintboyd
    @Clintboyd 2 роки тому +24

    Good message, Vlad. "Let the one who thinks they stand take heed, lest they fall." -1 Cor. 10:12

  • @jesssenpai86
    @jesssenpai86 2 роки тому +19

    If you believe you can lose your salvation, it's because you believe that your salvation depends on your good works and performance...
    God will disciple and punish his disobedient children but he will never cast them to hell. Eternal means Eternal. Gift means Gift. Jesus Christ died for the past, present, and future sins. We shall not come into condemnation but IS passed from death unto life. He will NEVER LEAVE ME NOR FORSAKE ME.
    Credits to: Ronel Dell

    • @geetakharel4471
      @geetakharel4471 8 місяців тому +1

      Then how do you know for sure you are saved??? What if God hasn’t chosen you.

    • @elijahjohnson5282
      @elijahjohnson5282 4 місяці тому +1

      @@geetakharel4471 you know if youre saved by what you love, your fruit, and how you respond to trials.

  • @patriciayonkoski8679
    @patriciayonkoski8679 11 місяців тому +3

    Jesus never leaves anyone but a child of God can leave him and go back to sin and die without repentance
    Thank you for telling the truth ❤

  • @FRN2013
    @FRN2013 2 роки тому +13

    "If works are so important, if we need to "remain" in Christ to stay saved, what about grace?"
    For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously, and godly in the present age. (Titus 2:11,12)

    • @Mark.Merritt-Asher
      @Mark.Merritt-Asher 2 роки тому +5

      by grace through FAITH (Ephesians 2:8), and FAITH without works is dead (James 2:26), Work out your salvation with fear and trembling (Phillipians 2:12). His grace is his graciousness to come to die for our sins paying the penalty and putting down the Law of Sin and death. We still have to obey.

    • @ladennayoung2939
      @ladennayoung2939 2 роки тому +1

      @@Mark.Merritt-Asher I mean we are to strive for perfection (maturing in CHRIST), choosing to grow and evolve in HIM daily, in the mighty name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. We are not simply saved by doing what we say is good or right though. It is literally impossible for people to do and say everything right. That's why JESUS came to die on the cross for our sins. And GOD knows if someone have a pure heart and/or pure/right intentions towards HIM. For only the pure in heart shall see GOD. The religious spirit will try to convince you that you are saved and righteous when you don't engage in certain sins, but that's not accurate. We will genuinely fall short one way or another, pretty much everyday of our lives. Because backbiting, gossiping, being lazy, prideful, arrogant, egotistical, lustful, and so on and so forth are sins as well. And MANY people are influenced by these spirits, and are bound by them daily. So, you can't just assume it's by doing quote/unquote good/nice things. If that was the case, even an atheist would have eternal life and go to heaven. Because they can be a nice/sweet acting person. That is not Biblically accurate, it's a form of false teachings/doctrine.

    • @ladennayoung2939
      @ladennayoung2939 2 роки тому +2

      @@Mark.Merritt-Asher Sometimes the works GOD is speaking of is us choosing to operate by and in faith, fasting, prayer, speaking and trusting HIS word, when we are led by the spirit of GOD to do so, in the mighty name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. It's NOT the works that people tend to think of or speak about or whatever the case maybe.

    • @wala888
      @wala888 10 місяців тому

      ⁠​⁠@@ladennayoung2939It's a year ago but I think it's still important to tackle. Now I didn't mean to have dispute for we are both members of the church and our intentions centered toward understanding the Word. I think the verse Markus quoted says Faith cooperating with Works, and Works as a form of response to God's grace, not to amount the grace/earn the grace for we can never earn it ofcourse. Markus didn't say it is by our works alone that saves us, but by believing (Faith) accepting the grace of Jesus' sacrifice, and responding to the grace with graceful works also.
      Philippians 1:27
      "Conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or remain absent, I will hear of you that you are standing firm in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel."
      I think what we're only trying to avoid here is people justifying their sins and falling short/backsliding with the idea that it is okay to sin after receiving the salvation "for we are already perfected anyways", and there's no need to repent and to do good or be good.

    • @wala888
      @wala888 10 місяців тому

      @@ladennayoung2939Moreover, you can also see many people who are members of the church and are baptized christians but are not good persons/is not participating in the works of Christ/is imitating Christ's good character

  • @carolynwillis5139
    @carolynwillis5139 2 роки тому +27

    You word it perfectly and it is aligned with God's word. People have left God.

    • @seanrathmakedisciples1508
      @seanrathmakedisciples1508 2 роки тому

      Thanks ua-cam.com/video/oAqoAgxXdyo/v-deo.html

    • @onward8231
      @onward8231 2 роки тому +6

      They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. 1 John 2:19

    • @patriciayonkoski8679
      @patriciayonkoski8679 11 місяців тому

      Exactly

  • @charlesdavis9937
    @charlesdavis9937 2 роки тому +11

    If you can lose your salvation, then I'm lost. Then Christ's death on the cross wasn't sufficient then. The christians that do fall away, we're never saved in the first place. They are false converts. Fans not followers.

    • @ivanabutler6213
      @ivanabutler6213 2 роки тому +12

      His sacrifice was sufficient. Loosing one’s salvation has more to do with what the person decides to do. It is mainly if you decide to no longer believe in God and/or if you give yourself over to living an intentional life of sin.
      You will be fine if you keep believing in Him and living a life that is pleasing in His sight, through the mistakes and all. ❤️

    • @jesssenpai86
      @jesssenpai86 2 роки тому

      ​@@ivanabutler6213 We were saved the moment we believed on Christ's finished work, mixing this with a holy, righteous life is a backdoor to salvation by works.
      I say this my dear sister with gentleness and respect.
      In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
      Ephesians 1:13‭-‬14

    • @pickupyourcrossdaily
      @pickupyourcrossdaily 2 роки тому

      @@ivanabutler6213 beautiful said 🙏❤️ my Sheep hear my voice , only a wolf in sheep clothing will keep sinning for even demons believe in Jesus . His sheep will keep repent and keep seeking the Shepard !

    • @pickupyourcrossdaily
      @pickupyourcrossdaily 2 роки тому

      @@jesssenpai86 yes but someone who is Truly is sealed isn’t going to have sex with a lot of women, kill , and do things that are against God! Or against the spirit , for the spirit is light and sin is darkness That isn’t true salvation if you live for your flesh , for anyone who is a liar has the father of lies ! A liar is an abomination to God! You receive the precious Grace of Jesus humbly , with an open heart , are we going to sin yes but sin on purpose and lead others astray, to say you will no longer repent , no longer believe in his sacrifice, no longer pray, no longer do the will of the father was never a true believer

  • @dan246sdes5
    @dan246sdes5 2 роки тому +7

    I needed this

  • @FRN2013
    @FRN2013 2 роки тому +25

    Jesus suffered, died, and rose from death to purchase my salvation, and I could never add one ounce of merit to that. It's not an unconditional salvation, though. The condition is faith in Jesus. If there's no evidence of a changed life, then there's no salvation (James said faith without works is dead). So I am saved by grace through faith. I chose to receive that grace forty-one years ago. It was a gift received by faith. At the moment I trusted Jesus, all of my past sins were forgiven. I couldn't have chosen to trust him if God had not drawn me by his Spirit, but it still was my free will that decided to receive him. I still have free will. And so do you. So choose, by the grace of God, to follow Jesus today, and tomorrow, and every day until he returns.

    • @andreay9935
      @andreay9935 2 роки тому +4

      Yes, amen ❤

    • @eliashernandez6066
      @eliashernandez6066 2 роки тому

      AMEN I THINK IT WAS A.W. TOZER WHO SAID " YOU KNOW ONE THING ABOUT A MAN THAT CARRIED A CROSS OUT OF THE CITY... YOU KNEW HE WASNT COMING BACK!"

  • @amiestew
    @amiestew 2 роки тому +5

    If this was true the what Jesus did on the cross would be for nothing . He took all our sons past, present and future. If we are truly saved we cannot lose this gift of Grace , that would be works , trying to keep living up to the level of being saved & not His grace. if we are truly saved we cannot lose that gift .

    • @hoper.4920
      @hoper.4920 2 роки тому +2

      I agree.

    • @123mightywarrior
      @123mightywarrior 9 місяців тому

      Also, it says in Ephesians that Christians are SEALED until the day of redemption. A seal is a guaranteed promise.
      If a Christian can become unsealed, then that promise was a lie. And God cannot lie.

  • @arold4928
    @arold4928 2 роки тому +14

    May someone please pray for me. I’ve backslidden for so many months and I’ve been stubborn and have not repented when he kept giving me chances. I missed the last opportunity too he showed me and now I am more terrified than ever. I want that fire and love back that passion. But I keep doing the same things I’m so scared of him leaving me and I don’t wanna disobey anymore. Lord have mercy on me and all of us😞

    • @israelight.
      @israelight. 2 роки тому +2

      Lord we have deviated from you and your will. We have been foolish in our ways. Lord Jesus forgive us and steer us back on track. We need you now more than ever. We are lost without you O God.

    • @ar655
      @ar655 2 роки тому

      I will pray for you! Please pray for me as well❤️I’ve been struggling dearly since January

    • @user-tu1os9gs9p
      @user-tu1os9gs9p 9 місяців тому

      Joel chapter2
      12 Yet even now, declares the LORD Return to Me with all your heart And with fasting, weeping and mourning;
      13 And rend your heart and not your
      garment. Now return to the LORD your God, For He is gracious and compassionate, Slow to anger, abounding in lovingkindness And relent of evil.
      John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life
      37 All that the Father gives Me will Come to Me, and the one who comes to me I will certainly not cast out.
      38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my will, but the will of Him who sent Me
      39This is the will of My Father who sent Me, that of all the He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day.
      40For this is the will of My father, that everyone behold the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I myself will raise him up on the last day.

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp 10 місяців тому +1

    Galatians, the epistles that throw out the OSAS doctrine.

  • @testimoniesoftruth4815
    @testimoniesoftruth4815 9 місяців тому +1

    Faith without works is dead

  • @FRN2013
    @FRN2013 2 роки тому +4

    "Are you saying that saving faith can be departed from, or destroyed?"
    If we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he will also disown us...
    Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some. (2 Timothy 2:12, 17-18)

  • @tonyatonya703
    @tonyatonya703 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you pastor Vlad!! Jesus said that his sheep hear his voice, so his sheep will know that your message is truth because they have ears to hear and Spirit of Truth in them. Once saved always saved is very dangerous doctrine, doesn't motivate new believers to live right. They think they can live how they want because they are sealed

  • @Heccadunks
    @Heccadunks 9 місяців тому

    I keep slipping up. Have I gone too far? I want to change. I feel like I’ve failed God one too many times. I know his grace is enough and I always run back to him but I keep doing it. I want to put an need to this cycle.

  • @andrelyfe7
    @andrelyfe7 Рік тому

    Please pray for me , I’ve backslidden so many times as well. I’ve done the same things over and over and haven’t truly turned from them. I need the Lords mercy yet again!

  • @phoenixfox7514
    @phoenixfox7514 Рік тому +1

    One of the best videos about Biblical truth brother.

  • @pickupyourcrossdaily
    @pickupyourcrossdaily 2 роки тому +1

    Finally something that makes sense with scripture🙏🔥🙌❤️!

  • @baconlon888
    @baconlon888 2 роки тому +8

    Vlad sorry mate but you've really strayed of the mark sir.
    I'm happy to go through the one line scripture quotes you've used mate and bring them into context, I say this with love mate and a concern for anyone misrepresentation of the Gospel. God bless

    • @RandyEscalanteGarcia
      @RandyEscalanteGarcia Рік тому +1

      If possible, could you provide context with these all?

    • @baconlon888
      @baconlon888 Рік тому

      @@RandyEscalanteGarcia context , look your dealing with a wolf in Vlad. And with an due respect learn your Bible yourself, it's between you and God. Not you and i

    • @RandyEscalanteGarcia
      @RandyEscalanteGarcia Рік тому +3

      @@baconlon888 that's like saying fellowship shouldn't exist but ok👍🏼. Im asking you to prove your point with the theological context you found. And I do read my Bible on my own. That's why I can recognize different theological interpretations. But I'm not gonna go around calling people wolf in sheep's clothing out of ignorance.

    • @baconlon888
      @baconlon888 Рік тому

      @@RandyEscalanteGarcia I care not that you'll not mark a person who is a false proofer. Simple. I care not for your stance, its between you and God not I, and you should spend more time discerning what you hear of you know your bible well. There is only 1 correct theology the correct understanding of the attributes of God.
      You nongs heap up these wolves to tell you want you want to tickle your ears. Now incase you can't take a hint. Buzz off clown

  • @FRN2013
    @FRN2013 2 роки тому +19

    “But I thought my calling and my election are sure, no matter what I do.”
    Therefore, brothers, strive to make your calling and election sure. For if you practice these things you will never stumble (2 Peter 1:11)

    • @baconlon888
      @baconlon888 2 роки тому

      They are

    • @FRN2013
      @FRN2013 2 роки тому +1

      @@baconlon888 _if_ we "strive" and _if_ we "practice these things."

    • @baconlon888
      @baconlon888 2 роки тому +1

      @@FRN2013 gday and God bless. Yes of course we strive, that's sanctification, being through conviction from the Holy Spirit.
      Being saved, justification is completely a work only of God. As I'm sure you'd be aware until glorification we constantly strive with help of the Holy Spirit in being sanctified.
      Now Jesus plainly states,
      All the Father give,
      All the sheep will hear the call,
      Jesus will cast none out.
      This by no means absolved us in any way to bearing fruit, expected reasonable service and conduct, on the contrary it should bring us closer to God and wanting to serve.
      But we are passive and God is Active in our salvation, lest any shall boast.
      So if saved, chosen by the Father, accepted by Jesus, and by no means cast out any that the Father gave.
      OK so, John rights I blot out your name from the book of life.
      Is God's word not contradictory ?
      I'll not cast out,
      Yet,
      I'll blot out from the book of life.
      If which cannot be done here in a comments post, we read the entirety of God's word we can see, that you can't sin your way out of heaven put simply.
      These questions should not be discussed in front of new Christians, it displays a lack of knowledge really.
      We can't reconcile in our human mind that the things impossible for man are possible for God.
      The one thing the reformers got right, got us all was salvation.
      You cannot call ourselves reformed if we don't stand on the basis of that reformation.
      Grace alone, faith in Christ Alone, that's faith in the saving knowledge spoken of in 1 John that our joy may be full, we have an advocate who forgives All our unrighteousness, if we're sincere we repent.
      I'm not trying to upset anyone, I like pastor vlad.
      I am commanded by God to try and help any who stray.
      I take this seriously with love considering should any other gospel message is preached, then let them be accursed.
      That is serious, pastor vlad is in danger of this and in love in bound to gently point this out.
      It's not an option, we're commanded to in nearly all the epistles and letters.
      God bless

    • @baconlon888
      @baconlon888 2 роки тому

      Unfortunately As is all to often, our warnings will fall on deaf ears and probably never addressed.
      God bless you

    • @tonyatonya703
      @tonyatonya703 2 роки тому +1

      That's what pastor Vlad is saying, those who strive and practice those things, then your election is sure. But those who don't practice or strive and think they can live in sin and be saved, backsliders eventially are cut off. Apostasy are those who fall from truth. God knows all things,he already knows who will be saved at the end but we don't. God's view- he knows his sheep but Bible tells us that our view-God so loved the world that he gave his only son so we take gospel to the world. Once saved always saved is very dangerous doctrine it doesn't motivate new believers to get right with God and to live right. I can do what I want- my election is sure

  • @FRN2013
    @FRN2013 2 роки тому +9

    "I prayed a prayer years ago, so I'm going to Heaven even though I'm not living right." WRONG.
    For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. (Romans 8:13)
    The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Galatians 5:19-21)
    This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother. (1 John 3:10)

    • @kimk3842
      @kimk3842 2 роки тому +1

      I am reading your posts. Thank you. Many of us, as well as so many others, need to keep these always in remembrance.

  • @niclasschulz1536
    @niclasschulz1536 2 роки тому +5

    I just have one question.
    John says that no one born of God keeps on sinning.
    No. One.
    Is he lying?
    Because if he isnt , then that means that no one who has been truly saved and born again and been born of God will not keep on sinning and so how would they lose salvation? That would mean they would keep on sinning.
    But isn’t it when people say that a truly born again Christian with the Holy Spirit leading them can lose salvation the claim that no one born of God keeps on sinning is would be a lie.
    Sure, someone who keeps on sinning is definitely in danger. But will it really come so far that they would lose their salvation?
    Would a true born again Christian who lives in a surrender to God and has their HEARTS and MINDS renewed and have the Holy Spirit, who have God making them keep his commandments ( Ezekiel ) really even WANT to sin?
    I think God changes our hearts in a way and disciplines us as soon as He can so that we would never even WANT to sin or much less keep on sinning.
    I think that is why Peter can say in 1 Peter that the audience is born again, that God will keep them by faith through his power. That’s why He can be so sure, YOU WILL BE SAVED! Because they are truly born again.
    Or that’s why Paul can say in Ephesians you are sealed by the Holy Spirit and He is your guarantee for the inheritance. That’s why Jude can say God can keep you. If God can keep us then why would He not if He wants us not to perish?
    I think that’s why Paul can say in Romans 8 nothing can separate us from God‘s love.
    I think that’s why Paul can be confident in Philippians 1:6 that God will finish his work.
    Jesus is the Author and finisher of faith. God calls the justified! Why would God save one truly and adopt Him and then let Him lose his adaption? Would God not have a plan?
    I think that’s why Jesus can say the Holy Spirit will be with us FOREVER, that His sheep will never perish and no one will snatch them out of His Fathers hand.
    But at the same time, you’re right. There is many verses that seem to show a Christian can lose salvation.
    I think a Christian can lose salvation, but I think that a true born again Christian who has the Holy Spirit and bears fruit WILL not lose salvation because they are kept by God and protected

    • @andreitap3163
      @andreitap3163 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah this video contradicts the video he made about salvation. Smh. Because in his actual video he even says a born again Christian doesn’t practice sin. He practices righteousness. If your not born again, you don’t practice righteousness

    • @Kirstys635
      @Kirstys635 2 роки тому +2

      Just means they live in a constant state of repentance and when they do sin they repent and the blood covers it.

    • @niclasschulz1536
      @niclasschulz1536 2 роки тому +1

      @@Kirstys635 Yeah exactly so how are they gonna lose salvation?

    • @Kirstys635
      @Kirstys635 2 роки тому

      @@niclasschulz1536
      If you turn your back on God then you end up a reprobate and go to hell.
      If you go back to your old life after being born again and choose your own path instead of God then you'll spend eternity separated from God.
      If you want to live separated from God then you will spend eternity separated from God.
      Or you can choose to walk the path God has chosen and walk with Him (easier said than done), turn from your sins and be moulded by the Holy Spirit, all the while whatever sin you do commit repent of them and cover yourself in the blood which is your attonment.
      Joker Christians (Christians that refuse to grow or be useful) will be cut off also and thrown into the fire.
      As it is written.
      Harsh but true.
      No joking around, no sugar coating.
      People's names can be blotted out of the book of life.

    • @niclasschulz1536
      @niclasschulz1536 2 роки тому

      @@Kirstys635 Well Joker Christians are the same Christians that John probably talks about. They went from us because they did not belong us. So not truly born again Christians.
      You just said truly born again Christian would always repent. How then do you expect a True Christian to go back to the world and KEEP sinning. What about the fact that John said everyone born of God does not keep on sinning.
      If a born again Christian turns his back on God and then keeps on sinning then did John lie?

  • @onward8231
    @onward8231 2 роки тому +3

    Vlad here is the Bible verse from John
    "They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us."

    • @jenex5608
      @jenex5608 2 роки тому

      He referring to the Anti Christ

    • @onward8231
      @onward8231 2 роки тому

      @@jenex5608 Who is "they"?

    • @jenex5608
      @jenex5608 2 роки тому

      @@onward8231 The antichrists that is those who deny Christ came in flesh and is the Son of God.

    • @onward8231
      @onward8231 2 роки тому

      @@jenex5608 Vlad said Christians can lose their salvation, the only way a Christian can lose salvation is if God stops being God and that's not possible. Those people who you think left the faith were never really God's for they would have stayed but them going showed they did not belong as the verse states

    • @123mightywarrior
      @123mightywarrior 9 місяців тому +1

      Exactly the verse I was thinking about. When John says they weren’t “of us”, he means they weren’t truly Christians .
      If someone leaves the faith, they were never truly saved to begin with.

  • @Mr.Fotingo-qf9hk
    @Mr.Fotingo-qf9hk 6 місяців тому

    What they respond is.."well, if you go back to living a sinful life, that means you were never saved in the first place" 🤦‍♂️

  • @letstalksuccess
    @letstalksuccess 11 місяців тому

    I love the way this man preaches the truth

  • @correctingspiritually2001
    @correctingspiritually2001 10 місяців тому

    I agree with you.

  • @Broman9437
    @Broman9437 9 місяців тому

    Amen 🙏 ❤❤

  • @FRN2013
    @FRN2013 2 роки тому +8

    "But I thought that when I was saved, all of my future sins were forgiven."
    But if anyone does not have them, he is nearsighted and blind, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his PAST sins. (2 Peter 1:9)

    • @tonyatonya703
      @tonyatonya703 2 роки тому +1

      Then in prayer "our Father who art in Heaven .....forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us " why we ask for forgiveness if all your future sins are forgiven ? :)))

    • @jamesleach3028
      @jamesleach3028 5 місяців тому

      If our future sins are not forgiven, then two things must happen: 1) when we sin in the future, we revert to an unforgiven state, meaning we lose our salvation and must be saved again, and 2) Christ must die again to cover the sins we’ve committed since His last death. Neither of these scenarios is biblical. We are kept by God, and thus our salvation is secure (John 10:28-30); and Christ died “once for all” (Hebrews 10:10; cf. Hebrews 7:25).

  • @melodyjones82
    @melodyjones82 2 роки тому +8

    Thank you and amen. This has been a factor in what it is that I take in.many are on the wrong path of believing that they can not lose their salvation and according to the word of God that is a dangerous belief and that doesn't sit well with my spirit. Praying for those who are being misled into the once saved always saved doctrine. Turn from this false doctrine and turn to the word of God in Jesus name amen.

    • @calebmanuel17
      @calebmanuel17 Рік тому

      So once we accept faith in god we cannot lose our salvation right 😊

  • @fredmancina4551
    @fredmancina4551 2 роки тому +5

    Right on time!! Thank you Jesus.

  • @BeingErikaWhite
    @BeingErikaWhite 9 місяців тому

    SAY SO SIR!!!

  • @fightthegoodfightoffaithmi8676
    @fightthegoodfightoffaithmi8676 6 місяців тому


    Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
    James 1:12 (KJV)

  • @b.f5720
    @b.f5720 2 роки тому +7

    Amen brother!!!!

  • @ddevonlw
    @ddevonlw 2 роки тому +1

    I believe no biblical questions can be answered without biblical scripture otherwise it becomes opinion.

  • @ceilconstante640
    @ceilconstante640 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you! I sometimes see arguments about this in the comments section. It's dangerous to believe this. I hope people search and find this.

  • @Infernus_Dante
    @Infernus_Dante 2 роки тому +5

    This is a constant fear I have how would I know?

    • @teresahunt5521
      @teresahunt5521 2 роки тому +8

      I've struggled with this too. A pastor once told me that a true apostate wouldn't CARE because they no longer believe....if they ever truly believed in the first place. If you're worried, that's the Holy Spirit and Jesus calling. It's not too late.

    • @FRN2013
      @FRN2013 2 роки тому +7

      @@teresahunt5521 exactly. An apostate wouldn't care.
      Dante, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Let the fear that you have drive you to the cross. To repentance by faith.

    • @teresahunt5521
      @teresahunt5521 2 роки тому +1

      @@FRN2013 Amen...amen...

    • @seanrathmakedisciples1508
      @seanrathmakedisciples1508 2 роки тому

      @@teresahunt5521 ua-cam.com/video/oAqoAgxXdyo/v-deo.html

    • @Infernus_Dante
      @Infernus_Dante 2 роки тому +1

      @@teresahunt5521 God bless you this is assuring, I hope these panic attacks and doubts can come to an end I hope you are better now as well 🙏

  • @cristianpopescu78
    @cristianpopescu78 2 роки тому +1

    True!

  • @Aur985
    @Aur985 Рік тому

    I think the issue is that OSAS is to say that if you re genuine in your conversion God will always be on your part to strengthen you to empower you over the devil because he is the real enemy of our salvation. So I agree about perseverance but not because I have to mantain my salvation with just not sinning but to stay firm in my faith in Christ as my righteousness during the attacks of the devil all my life long. I think then not sinning have to be an issue of me wanting to be conformed to the image of the son and not give place to the devil and it has not to be attached to the fear of losing salvation. I think this is what romans 6 teaches. God bless y all. Thank you Pastor for your wisdom

  • @otiumsanctum7297
    @otiumsanctum7297 Рік тому

    We chose to follow him the moment we chose salvation but it doesn’t mean the work is done and we are totally perfect. It’s not a smooth road to sanctity. There are many bumps and bruises along the way. Some sins are easier to walk away from than others. Sometimes it can take years to get rid of sin, like if you have a deep rooted addiction or struggling with deep rooted childhood trauma. Someone with a proclivity to alcoholism vs someone who doesn’t will have a harder time walking away. It could be years of falling and getting up. I don’t drink alcohol and I’m not addicted to caffeine but I can’t seem to beat my smoking habit for the life of me. It’s a major stronghold bc it’s been part of my life for 30 years. Caffeine has too but it was much easier to quit than smoking. Even when I was walking in total obedience and quit smoking for 4 years, I still suffered from anxiety/panic attacks which I’ve had since childhood. I think the smoking is connected to my anxiety. I don’t know where the panic attacks come from since it’s not the kind that is rooted in fear. I have a healthy sense of fear, nothing abnormal. I’ve tried every nicotine aide fasted prayed. I’m fact when I fast, I smoke more. I really hope one day I can kick this habit for good bc I hate it. And before you start judging, if you can’t function without caffeine that is your idol too. If you’re addicted to social media food or junk food that’s your idol. My point is no one will ever be perfect and everyone’s weaknesses and strengths vary. God understands that. He knows our hearts and ultimate desires and he is long-suffering. Stop beating yourself up. Life is hard enough. We shouldn’t be driven by the fear of losing our salvation. We should be driven by our love for God and desire to be closer to Him.

  • @hecrivera3237
    @hecrivera3237 2 роки тому +8

    Amen brother

  • @reinhardjoseph8126
    @reinhardjoseph8126 2 роки тому

    Amen Jesus Christ ❤️

  • @FRN2013
    @FRN2013 2 роки тому +10

    "Can someone be saved, then backslide, then be saved again?" YES.
    My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth, and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death, and will cover over a multitude of sins. (James 5:19, 20)

  • @childofgodministries96
    @childofgodministries96 7 місяців тому

    Impossible to lose your salvation

  • @brotherjames8495
    @brotherjames8495 2 роки тому

    It is a race of endurance, there is a spiritual war going on not just one battle. We must not compromise the word of God. We need the full Gospel which includes angels, demons, Heaven and hell and the only correct path is Jesus Christ. Once saved always saved is a lie from the pit. Sermons should have fire 🔥 not luke warm. Hallelujah Pastor Vlad is absolutely correct. The love and compassion we shine ✨ in this dark world is critical. The church we carry in our 🥰 hearts and life is at the tip of our tongues. Churches should be a hospital 🏥 for sinners not a rest home for saints. We are not to be bystanders,we are soldiers in this war. Turn the lost sheep 🐑 back as Jesus would. Prophecy, gifts of the spirit, and prayer 🙏🏻 and the word of God should always remain the central focus. Showing love ❤️ in this harsh world 🌎 is what we are commanded to do.🔥🙏🏻🔥 Every believer has work to do as they hear from the Holy Spirit. As a disciple I go out to give to others, but as I minister I receive more than I give because I can do nothing without the Holy Spirit. Pastor Vlad you share so much truth. Your love during this Ukrainian crises shows the power ofGod’s love ❤️ burning 🔥 through you! We have to check our own hearts and motives before we look at the sin in our brother’s eye. It is accepting the word of God meditating and learning from it. Applying the living word of God to our daily life. I have not arrived I am continually being saved and lead back to the path through the strength of the Lord. Hallelujah

  • @staceydelbucchia2576
    @staceydelbucchia2576 2 роки тому +1

    🙏🕯❤

  • @FRN2013
    @FRN2013 2 роки тому +9

    "You're teaching salvation by works if you're saying we have to keep living by faith to be saved." WRONG.
    Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself. (James 2:17)
    Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your deeds complete in the sight of my God. (Revelation 3:2)
    He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death. (Revelation 2:11)
    We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first. (Hebrews 3:14)
    Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary. (Galatians 6:7-9)
    And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds, yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach-if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister. (Colossians 1:21-23)
    For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. (2 Peter 2:20)

    • @tonyatonya703
      @tonyatonya703 2 роки тому

      You saved by grace, you remain by producing fruit

  • @joe-cm4lz
    @joe-cm4lz 2 роки тому

    Amen

  • @amandaphillips6845
    @amandaphillips6845 2 роки тому +5

    Amen.. Pastor Vlad... 🙏🙏🙏❤️

  • @sabrinaseamon208
    @sabrinaseamon208 2 роки тому +3

    👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💯Truth !!!! Thank you Pastor ❤️

  • @kati8359
    @kati8359 2 роки тому

    Yes

  • @companyboss5447
    @companyboss5447 Рік тому

    Dear Vlad, forget about what John Wesley said.
    Read the words of Jesus:
    All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

  • @seanpermann5570
    @seanpermann5570 Рік тому

    Saying you could lose your salvation is saying the blood of Christ isn't sufficient enough. There's a corinthian believer who was willfully spinning and Paul said that he basically died young to save his soul. If we could turn away God would know that before we are even saved so why save us in the first place?

  • @sjasminchristensen.single
    @sjasminchristensen.single 2 роки тому +10

    YES a Christian can lose salvation if you ask me,

  • @roelmineralesjr.6649
    @roelmineralesjr.6649 2 роки тому

    Hi brothers and sisters in Christ
    I have a question, is the vax is sin?
    If I take it would God will forgive me, I'm sorry I'm not good at english

    • @scouthart3062
      @scouthart3062 2 роки тому

      Whatever does not come from faith is sin.

  • @Darthrocker06
    @Darthrocker06 5 місяців тому

    What exactly is apostacy

  • @swordandshield5004
    @swordandshield5004 2 роки тому

    I agree… my only question is that The Bible says we are sealed until the day of redemption?! It throws me off..

    • @FRN2013
      @FRN2013 2 роки тому +3

      A seal was a mark of identification. Here's the verse you're citing:
      Ephesians 4:30
      And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
      You were sealed _for_ that day, not _until_ that day.
      A few paraphrases twist that verse and try to make it mean _until,_ but real translations render it _for_ that day.

    • @FRN2013
      @FRN2013 2 роки тому +1

      A mark of identification can be removed. As Vlad quoted, God said it's possible for someone's name to be removed from his book.

    • @hoper.4920
      @hoper.4920 2 роки тому

      @@FRN2013 It says sealed until the day of redemption. Not sealed until the seal is removed.

    • @FRN2013
      @FRN2013 2 роки тому

      Nope.
      Again, it says "you were sealed FOR the day of redemption."
      Just like many names were written in God's Book for the day of redemption, but were then blotted out.

    • @FRN2013
      @FRN2013 2 роки тому

      "If we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he will also disown us...
      Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some."(2 Timothy 2:12, 17-18)

  • @lae3418
    @lae3418 11 місяців тому

    Grace is God’s gift you can neither work for it or earn it ephesians 2:8. Do we receive the Holy Spirit the eternal seal of God who will save us from death because we are righteous? We receieve Him By believing in the Lord Jesus Christ. I dont agree with abusing grace though but if we can lose our salvation then we are just like the other religions works based salvation. Why can’t they be saved since they also do good works? Is Jesus not enough to get us all to Heaven is it only the door and we have to add works in it to be saved?

  • @TheJspan
    @TheJspan Рік тому

    Vlad to say a sheep can get lost just says you don't have as much faith in Christ as you think you do. The Bible said God never loses his sheep...so that seems more like the "lost sheep" never belonged to god in the first place.

  • @truthandjoybyloveentertain2343
    @truthandjoybyloveentertain2343 2 роки тому +2

    While It Is True That There Is Great Danger For All Who Hear And Do Not Obey The Gospel, What Vlad Is Saying About Those Who Do Hear And Obey The Gospel, Is Contrary To Jesus Christ Word And The Scriptures.
    Having Gods Seed In Us (Christ Manifested In Us), Makes It Impossible For Us To Sin, When It Comes To Unrighteousness And Not Loving. There Is A Change Which Takes Place In The New Birth, "Which Translates Us Out Of Darkness And Into The Kingdom Of Light." The Proof Of Salvation Is A Changed Life.🥰
    (John 5:22-24)
    22For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23that all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. 24Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
    There Is No Condemnation For Those In Christ. Thank You Jesus!😍 Alleluia!🥰
    (Romans 8:1-9)
    1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
    2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
    The Truth Of John 3:14-16, 5:22-24, 6:35-40, 8:30-36, 10:27-30 And So Many Other Scriptures Are Being Ignored And Not Spoken By Vlad.😪😪😪
    We Are Warned By God Not To Let Any Man Deceive Us! I Am Not In Any Way Desiring To Speak Bad Of Pastor Vlad, But His Doctrine And Teaching About The Loss Of Salvation Is Not About Those Who Have Christ In Them, But About Those Who Do Not Believe Christ For Salvation And Do Not Have The Seed Of God In Them. All Such Fall Away If They Do Not Repent And Believe The Gospel. That's What Jesus Says...
    Those Who Enter By The Gate Are The Shephard Of The Sheep. We Endure Until The End And Give Our Life For The Sheep. Hirelings (Servants Of Sin) Do Not... Jesus MakessThis Clear. All Of The Warnings Are For Those Who Have Not Repented And Accepted Jesus As Lord. They Do Not Have Christ In Them.
    (1 John 3:1-10)
    1Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
    4Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. 6Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
    7Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
    9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 10In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
    (John 10:1-16)
    The Good Shepherd
    1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2But he that entereth in by the door is the Shepherd of the sheep. 3To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. 4And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. 5And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers. 6This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them.
    7Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. 8All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. 9I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture. 10The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. 11I am the good Shepherd: the good Shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. 12But he that is an hireling, and not the Shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. 14I am the good Shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one Shepherd.

  • @pauldonnelly6691
    @pauldonnelly6691 2 роки тому +3

    REMEMBER only way to repent and be saved by Christ Acts 11:14-18, Luke 11:9-13, Zeph 3:9/Acts 2:4 and Heb 12:23. Just follow only the original gospel tradition teaching not different churches but Jesus will guide and teach you to the end John 10:1-6,11-16, Acts4:12 and 1 John 2:24-25!

  • @geetakharel4471
    @geetakharel4471 8 місяців тому

    Jesus died for our sins because God is a just God so he paid for it with the blood of his own son. Now that that’s been done we are to be holy and reborn in Christ…we are not perfect but with Christ we should be getting better and better. Just because he died for our sins does not mean we can go to heaven if we continue to live in sin. The Bible says it’s better that a person never knows the grace of God then to know and go back his old ways.

  • @gem6458
    @gem6458 2 роки тому

    Whats gods book name ib book

    • @RaptureGeneration
      @RaptureGeneration 2 роки тому +1

      Whosever name wasn’t found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

  • @AggieMar
    @AggieMar 9 місяців тому

    Romans 10:9-11
    New International Version
    9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.”

  • @troywesley4565
    @troywesley4565 4 місяці тому

    I have been looking for the truth about this. If we could lose our salvation then everyone who ever lived would be in hell. God looks at every sin equally. Our sinful thoughts are deemed sinful as well. Those who preach we can lose salvation have lost it as well. And if we are to repent after every sin, how would you keep track of all the sins you knowingly and unknowingly commit since the Bible states we have no excuse? Are you claiming you have never sinned or live a 100% sin free life? Think about how many times you had a thought not becoming of God. You are sinning! Please think about how the Bible describes sin and determine if anyone alive could keep salvation if we could lose it. The better question is are you truly saved, are you a follower of Jesus? Since no one will ever be sinless besides God, and the Bible says those who fall away cannot be saved again and we shouldn’t even pray for those who fall away; how do you propose we humans who sin everyday maintain salvation? There is not a man alive who has the ability to maintain his salvation if we can lose it. Look up all the sins in the Bible and tell me you have not committed a single one after accepting Jesus. Consider the implications of a salvation that could be lost, if it were true we are all doomed to HELL.

  • @FrankyFango
    @FrankyFango 2 роки тому +1

    Is there a full video for this?

  • @Jesusunlimited5314
    @Jesusunlimited5314 2 роки тому

    You are the best teacher pastor Vlad ❤️🇮🇳

  • @FRN2013
    @FRN2013 2 роки тому +2

    "If a person backslides, he was never saved in the first place. But whoever is really saved cannot lose his salvation." WRONG.
    If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. (Hebrews 10:26, 27)
    You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. (Galatians 5:4)
    They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow. (Colossians 2:19)
    If anyone does not abide in Me, he is thrown away as a branch and dries up; and they gather them, and cast them into the fire and they are burned. (John 15:6)
    Then the master called the servant in. “You wicked servant,” he said, “I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. Shouldn't you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?” In anger his master turned him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed. This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother from your heart. (Matthew 18:32-35)
    The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. Some have wandered away from these and turned to meaningless talk. (1 Timothy 1:5, 6)
    But if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked man does, will he live? None of the righteous things he has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness he is guilty of and because of the sins he has committed, he will die. (Ezekiel 18:24)
    Those on the rock are the ones who receive the word with joy when they hear it, but they have no root. They believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away. (Luke 8:13)
    For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs. (1 Timothy 6:10)
    Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. (2 Peter 3:17)
    (Of course sometimes when a person leaves the church, he was never saved in the first place. The thing that was WRONG about their statement is saying people can't lose their salvation.)

    • @jacksonmwesigwa
      @jacksonmwesigwa 2 роки тому +1

      Calvinism🙄

    • @andreitap3163
      @andreitap3163 2 роки тому +2

      John literally says “they left from us because they were never of us, if they were they would have stayed with us” meaning^ never Born again ^ 1 John 2:19

    • @FRN2013
      @FRN2013 2 роки тому +2

      Of course that happens, Andrei. But it also happens that people lose their salvation.

    • @DianapluckyTee
      @DianapluckyTee 2 роки тому

      @@FRN2013
      John 10:25-29
      25 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me,26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep.27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.29 My Father, who has given them to me,is greater than all, no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”

    • @FRN2013
      @FRN2013 2 роки тому

      Of course. But if we want to go, he will allow it. The father allowed the prodigal to go. The father said his son was "lost" and "dead" while he was gone.

  • @cameronthompson70
    @cameronthompson70 2 роки тому

    Amen 🙏🏾

  • @lelliateodotova5483
    @lelliateodotova5483 2 роки тому +1

    agree 100%!

  • @lionelmaisonneuve8383
    @lionelmaisonneuve8383 2 роки тому

    Amen