UK is weird, they use both metric and imperial as he did for different things in this video, so no one would really understand them, because AFAIK every other country use either this or that and never combined.
Well, i think it’s just labeling sections of the video based on the time stamps in the description. Probably the only good feature UA-cam added in a year.
George Wong he will not do that he’ll just ignore you for 4 months I’ve been begging for a new vauxhall corsa review but he never made one just concentrating on his stupid 208 it is the same as the corsa so I wonder why he is refusing to review it 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Dude I can still see some fossils driving Peugeot 404 diesel around my city, and I ve heard that car was pretty often used as a taxi back in days. I mean, Peugeot do know how to make diesels and French know how to make cars, example: Renault produce engines for Merc A/B class, and even more Merc has a stake in Renault, so I would like peeps to stop talking against frenches they better than American cars 🤔
Please do a test between the new Audi A8l vs new BMW 7-Series vs new Mercedes S-class vs new Jaguar XJ vs new Lexus LS vs new Kia K900 vs new Genesis G90. Like if u agree. #BATTLEOFTHELIMOS Just do it Matt.
I don't know if Matt or the team will see this but I really appreciate the extra effort made to timestamp the video definitely include this in other reviews
One thing I on't see mentioned often is that the new Peugeot light designs look very cool on the road at night. It gives the car a really distinctive look in the dark. Good job Peugeot.
My answer to the title is yes. I've test driven a few EVs now. For the price this is the best all rounder I've driven. The range is the best of all in the price range that I've tested, it's got a nice interior and feels like a nice place to be, it is nippy and fun to drive. Lots of cabin storage space (although the glove compartment is tiny), could do with a little more leg room and head room if you're over 6'0" (my head was touching the roof when i sat up straight (slightly unnaturally but still) and my knees in the back of the seat in front but my feet could go beneath the seat with the floor being flat. I agree with the 5 annoying things, especially the alarm but the reversing camera isn't really an issue for me though as I've never needed anything to help me reverse park before so sod the camera. I think I'd go for the Allure model, just seems the best value for money, you don't get enough to justify the boost in cost between the allure and the gt line in my personal opinion. The MG ZS EV has been sold to me as the "best budget ev" but when i got a quote it was about the same cost as the e208 and although it's bigger the roof rails aren't standard and it's uglier, less luxurious inside and much less fun to drive. Practicality as a family car though, people might be right, but for me, the range is more important than that extra bit of boot space.
If they want people to move into electric vehicles you have only two choices; do it the Tesla way or simply make electric cars so damn cheap that you are forced to have one. Selling slow charging mid-quality poorly powered hatchbacks for 30k€ (or more) ain't the correct choice. But they probably knew that already.
That alarm sounds like those old crappy car alarms from the 80s or 90s. Knowing the French and their legendary reliability when it comes to vehicle electronics, and EV would be the last type of car I would buy from them 🤣
I have Got the E208GT premium what a fantastic car and lots of toys i’ve had it just over two weeks …I have had lots of diesel and petrol cars in my life different size engines, but this is something else charging is easy lots and lots of charging points don’t be afraid to go electric Enjoy ps and I am 73 …Love it…..
Beside the fuel-savings (& massive GH-gas-reduction), the greatest advantage of an EV (for me) is its low-cost & low-risk of maintenance; & the reviewer has NOT mentioned it!
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I’ve bought one of these. It costs less than the 300bhp petrol Audi that I had . Off the line to about 30mph it’s pretty much just as fast. Nobody follows me home now to see where I park so they can steal it. My fuel bill is now zero instead of over £120 per month because I live near a free charger. I’ve got Apple CarPlay which I didn’t have before and there’s no more having to pay Audi for map updates. Waze gives me instant traffic information. My insurance is less. It’s a different kind of fun, go test drive one. I drove the E Tron and the Tesla M3P but chose the e208 because it does what I want, looks good and costs way less than those. I like that it looks almost the same as the ICE versions, I didn’t want to drive a fashion experiment. And the best bit is the cool yellow paint is the no cost option. Well played Peugeot.
Fun fact, even if an electric car model looks the same as the petrol one (for any given model), here, in Quebec, EVs have green plates instead of the normal blue ones, meaning that, whether you want it or not, your car is always screaming "look at me, I'm electric!".
But regulations in some regions also require clear badging to signal High Voltage Electric Power Train. Incase of Emergency for First Responders. Soo going fully incognito is not an option.
Not just you. Had to bumb up the volume to 75% to hear him normally while he was driving the car. I usually hold it under 50%. Ah puteam sa scriu direct in romana :))
I think you should try to be less critical of charging times... You complained about it having a 22 hour charge on a 3-pin plug but that isn't even included with the car... The overwhelming majority of EV owners will opt to use a 7Kw wall charger at home or work etc. (Which the government also give you a grant towards)
Hi. Great channel ! Would appreciate it if you talked this year about the available commercial solutions (if any...) and the price for replacing the electric batteries in all these EV or phev cars. Just did a Tesla Model 3 test drive in Europe and as of now, battery replacement is 20 000 EUR. Doesn't this simply rule out these cars beyond their warranty deadline or as pre-owned cars for the greatest majority of people ? As of today what guarantee is there to have a compatible commercially available and affordable solution to replace the EV / PHEV battery beyond 160 000 kms or 8 years let's say ? Best.
you really ain't losing anything .. reliability zero.. it's French.. all nice and shiny but shit quality.. talking from experience.. and now they bought Opel/Vauxhall too :( :(
Carwow. Can you do a comparison between the Jaguar F Type R and the Bentley Continental GT,really would be interesting what the difference is between the two British Beasts. Apart from the price not much on paper,what do you say ?
Except the Interior...I sat in a 508 recently and the interior quality is just awfully cheap, my almost 30 year old 309 and 306 have way more luxurious interiors than a new executive car.
Just too expensive...Especially now, the price of batteries has come down..It's like, they don't want you to buy a electric one and still buy the petrol or diesel one instead :-(
My first car was a 4th hand Peugeot 207 diesel hdi with over a 100k and that car is still going today. I think Peugeot diesels are some of the most economical around and can really last if looked after. Im seriously considering the new diesel 208 as I don't think I'm going to be disappointed. Thanks Matt for your reviews keep them coming!
@@mulox1, these vehicles are really affected and negatively impacted by the weather and ambient temperature. The 217 quoted miles is achievable in the summer. 👍
Maybe, this kind of fake ev’s with a small engine fitted on the fosil engine are disgusting. However a Tesla model 3 could be a good purchase, nice exterior, clean interior, not high quality products but good charge points infrastructure, but quite expensive
Why important? It's not, but EV's offer almost no advantages over ICE vehicles. So EV fanboys and YT'ers think they can sway you into thinking they are great if they mention the instantaneous torque and speed. I'm confident in saying that the 0-60 thing is probably at the bottom of the list, as a feature, for 90% of car buyers.
Hey Matt, I really enjoy your videos but as a non-british person I'm getting confused with the miles and miles per gallon thing. It would be really cool if you show the km and L/100km for fuel consuption in the future videos too. 🧐
STILL too expensive, you'd think these million dollar car companies would throw us a freekin bone we all want electric cars but their prices are too high for gas and electric.... they just want us to rent it off them.... making regular income for them.
As for now, EV's are already cheaper to produce than ICE, the fact is that if they made them cheaper they'd struggle to sell the ICE models (for which they have production chains already set up)
What do you think - can you name a better car for under £30k?!
1987 Ford Sierra
Mazda 3
Used Tesla Model 3 from Canada
Mini electric. it’s just better
Its a decent one and a good opponent for the Zoe
We all know that some day Carwow "Stick of Truth" will retire...😭
Not while fake exhaust is living and breathing.
NEVER!!
Carwow stick of truth is not gonna retire because vents
Will survive by aerodinamic fake flaps
Cable of truth.
That alarm when opening the door...I couldn't live with that!.
Why is that even a thing?
Can you do a race between 720S, 992 Turbo S, and gt2rs? Should be really interesting and will get tons and tons of views
It's a bargain actually. Nice, practical and may be it's not even boring
The designer need a raise!!,
I'm really tempted by the 2022 model of the e208. My only big reservation is the arch gap.
Lol when you were googleing carwow for a quick moment you could see carole baskin
Rattle is speaker connector. Every citroen Ive owned had it. Fix this PSA
9:17 RIP headphone users...
Got one and love it
That ridiculous display in the middle does not have to be there, awesome.
Wow , is it available in Munich ?
Hi Matt will u do Renault Zoe review or idk why not e-208 vs this one???
Hi Matt, you should do a video of all the cars you recommended to "just go out and buy".
This is brilliant.
Yes please
🙌
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. NOT, NOT, NOT ... Peuge-NOT.
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Yes please in all price brackets
lol at Carole Baskin coming up in the google search predictive text box when typing in Carwow
I had a 207 diesel as my first car so have a soft spot for Peugeot
Yeah
@@galaxy5801 Yeah
Never ever I would want to own a Peugeot after the costs and desasters I had with my 205 gti back in the days. Never a French car for me!
Wow you got your first car at 75 years of age? #peugeotdrivers
@@jochem1986 what do you mean 75 lol I was 17
Peugeot did a great job with this for the value proposition compared to any other similarly sized competitor
Ezra Pardede UH EXCUSE ME MINI ELECTRIC
£26900
Agreed!
carwow hi :D
Niveau qualité intérieure c’est pas la meilleure, la clio V est meilleur la deçu !
”Everyone loves Teslas”
No I dont love those ugly computers on wheels
I'm definitely not a fan of Tesla.
When you are talking about fuel effecy can you also tell it in liters and range in kilometres
UK is weird, they use both metric and imperial as he did for different things in this video, so no one would really understand them, because AFAIK every other country use either this or that and never combined.
How would you express the electric energy it uses in liters? :D
I mean on other rewiews of disel and petrol
Its easy enough to work out the calculation yourself fella
@@Cookie2k but it would be easy if he sad it
This new UA-cam's filter on the progress bar of the video is amazing!
Well, i think it’s just labeling sections of the video based on the time stamps in the description. Probably the only good feature UA-cam added in a year.
Matt do a review of the new Zoe ZE50 and Honda E please and compare it to the e208. Ta 👍🏻
George Wong he will not do that he’ll just ignore you for 4 months I’ve been begging for a new vauxhall corsa review but he never made one just concentrating on his stupid 208 it is the same as the corsa so I wonder why he is refusing to review it 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
I hear Peugeot and just think of Clarkson saying maniac, maniac, maniac 😅
Peugeot today is so much better though
yobbo... 😂😂😂
sushi777300 It ´s the terrible revenge of peugeot on top gear , sometimes the critic is good to wake up
although Jezza did say the 205 GTi was the best hothatch of its day. Beating the Golf and Renault 5 turbo. So he can't have hated Pugs that much!
Dude I can still see some fossils driving Peugeot 404 diesel around my city, and I ve heard that car was pretty often used as a taxi back in days. I mean, Peugeot do know how to make diesels and French know how to make cars, example: Renault produce engines for Merc A/B class, and even more Merc has a stake in Renault, so I would like peeps to stop talking against frenches they better than American cars 🤔
"7.5kWh Charger" and "100kWh Charger" have really triggered me... 7.5kW and 100kW please, Matt! It MATTers -- power vs energy (power times time)!
as french, it's a pleasure to see Peugeot on Carwow
🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
On est là !!!! Les français!!!
Champion du mooooonde !!!!
Hasn't it been sold to Fca? 😢
Et oui petit !!!
I love the disgust on his face when he said the entry level car comes with steel wheels.
Tbh cars shouldn't really come with steel wheels anymore we live in the 21st century
I’m fine with steel wheels. It just depends on what they look like. They are cheaper to replace when damaged or curbed.
@@kierenhook4387 agreed
Deep dish steelies look great
Anirudha Nayak Do you mean hubcaps? They’re terrible. They fall off and then all u see it a brown rusted wheel
I test drove the e208 and immediately ordered it. Still waiting for delivery though. Obviously very popular.
How long ago did you order it?
I did exactly the same. I’ve been told October for mine but I ordered just before lockdown.
@@savedfaves April
@@kaaijer nice
How is it? Is it worth getting?
I love the new Peugeot desing language.👌❤
French language??
@@JP-xd6fm Maybe, I like Renault desing too, but I don't really like DS desing.
Danny López Calderón ....ffs it’s design pal
Please do a test between the new Audi A8l vs new BMW 7-Series vs new Mercedes S-class vs new Jaguar XJ vs new Lexus LS vs new Kia K900 vs new Genesis G90.
Like if u agree.
#BATTLEOFTHELIMOS
Just do it Matt.
They don't sell the kia end genessis' the UK or the rest of Europe
He can't... kia is a competitor?
The Kia and Genesis aren't available in the UK. So
That alarm sounds like something from the Jetsons.
Possibly the fastest click in my loooong UA-cam viewer career 😂 love the new 208!
Great choice ;)
Nandos please delete your comment
Matt, do a drag race and braking test between the e208, new Zoe and Ioniq. I'm really curios how they stack up against each other.
I don't know if Matt or the team will see this
but I really appreciate the extra effort made to timestamp the video
definitely include this in other reviews
When are you going to review the new fiat 500e
They'll probably wait until feat launch all trim levels, rarther than just the top of the range versions
Ooooh you kinda cute
Hopefully never😂
C J Why? HATER!!!
Whenever they start making good cars
1:37 Yeah matt, it'll always stay new
One thing I on't see mentioned often is that the new Peugeot light designs look very cool on the road at night. It gives the car a really distinctive look in the dark. Good job Peugeot.
It’s a nice car but the range is poor. In 2-3 degree weather and driving at 60 average your looking at 134 miles.
90% Of people watch carwow for entertainment not for buying cars
*99%
Shout out to all of the cool cats and kittens @0:26
The glovebox is BIG when you have the wheel on left side.
Should be big on both sides
My answer to the title is yes.
I've test driven a few EVs now. For the price this is the best all rounder I've driven. The range is the best of all in the price range that I've tested, it's got a nice interior and feels like a nice place to be, it is nippy and fun to drive. Lots of cabin storage space (although the glove compartment is tiny), could do with a little more leg room and head room if you're over 6'0" (my head was touching the roof when i sat up straight (slightly unnaturally but still) and my knees in the back of the seat in front but my feet could go beneath the seat with the floor being flat.
I agree with the 5 annoying things, especially the alarm but the reversing camera isn't really an issue for me though as I've never needed anything to help me reverse park before so sod the camera.
I think I'd go for the Allure model, just seems the best value for money, you don't get enough to justify the boost in cost between the allure and the gt line in my personal opinion.
The MG ZS EV has been sold to me as the "best budget ev" but when i got a quote it was about the same cost as the e208 and although it's bigger the roof rails aren't standard and it's uglier, less luxurious inside and much less fun to drive. Practicality as a family car though, people might be right, but for me, the range is more important than that extra bit of boot space.
FYI Matt charging power is measured in kW not kWh, which is used for battery capacity (number of kW you can deliver continuously for 1 hour)
If they want people to move into electric vehicles you have only two choices; do it the Tesla way or simply make electric cars so damn cheap that you are forced to have one.
Selling slow charging mid-quality poorly powered hatchbacks for 30k€ (or more) ain't the correct choice. But they probably knew that already.
I always wanted an electric car but couldn't afford it. Thanks for letting me know of this possibility 👍🏽
500 kgs heavier that the standard one?! woooow, i was expecting to be heavier, but not by half a fucking tone :O
Rather buy a Standard one
That alarm sounds like those old crappy car alarms from the 80s or 90s. Knowing the French and their legendary reliability when it comes to vehicle electronics, and EV would be the last type of car I would buy from them 🤣
It's fricking beautiful!!!
I like the way how carwow started replying as many comments as possible
Agreed.
Many comments but not this one 😨😨
@@sergio3674 Exactly 😐
Except yours...
Great Review of a good car
And you’re not really knocking it even though it’s a Peugeot 👍🏻
Well Done Matt 🙏🏻
For me the e208much better from Tesla!This car sells like hotcake in South Europe
Had a great nostalgic flashback when Mat mentioned the 205 GTi. I loved my 1.9. Went like a bullet :)
Lovely car. I ownedca red 1.9GTI with the leather and large sunroof- loved it
I have Got the E208GT premium what a fantastic car and lots of toys i’ve had it just over two weeks …I have had lots of diesel and petrol cars in my life different size engines, but this is something else charging is easy lots and lots of charging points don’t be afraid to go electric Enjoy ps and I am 73 …Love it…..
France 🇫🇷
Why would u pay £28,000 for that !!
😮 We would....
All EVs are expensive. And the ones under 20k can't even be considered "fast" or "cars".
carwow really ?? I wouldn’t
Corvolet5 would u pay that much
@@hakster3048 really?! I definitely would
Matt Watson for President
Such a beautiful car. Bravo Peugeot 👏👏
Beside the fuel-savings (& massive GH-gas-reduction), the greatest advantage of an EV (for me) is its low-cost & low-risk of maintenance; & the reviewer has NOT mentioned it!
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Mat when proposing:
So babe if you want to find out if we get married click on the pop out banner up there
This Pegeuot looks cute :)
What would you guys have - this e-208 or something else like a Vauxhall Corsa E or Nissan Leaf?
Don't forget about new Zoe.
Probably e208 cause I think it has a better range than the Leaf (?) and I don’t like the Leafs interior that much
For that price? Škoda Superb with 270hp 2.0 TSI 😁
Never driven a Peugeot before. Test drove this earlier in the month and absolutely loved it. Like getting in a go-kart.
Put an order in that day.
How do you find it, a year on?
I’ve bought one of these. It costs less than the 300bhp petrol Audi that I had . Off the line to about 30mph it’s pretty much just as fast. Nobody follows me home now to see where I park so they can steal it. My fuel bill is now zero instead of over £120 per month because I live near a free charger. I’ve got Apple CarPlay which I didn’t have before and there’s no more having to pay Audi for map updates. Waze gives me instant traffic information. My insurance is less. It’s a different kind of fun, go test drive one. I drove the E Tron and the Tesla M3P but chose the e208 because it does what I want, looks good and costs way less than those. I like that it looks almost the same as the ICE versions, I didn’t want to drive a fashion experiment. And the best bit is the cool yellow paint is the no cost option. Well played Peugeot.
Fun fact, even if an electric car model looks the same as the petrol one (for any given model), here, in Quebec, EVs have green plates instead of the normal blue ones, meaning that, whether you want it or not, your car is always screaming "look at me, I'm electric!".
The same in the UK now where the EV plates have a green strip down the side.
But regulations in some regions also require clear badging to signal High Voltage Electric Power Train. Incase of Emergency for First Responders. Soo going fully incognito is not an option.
Here from MM7games 🤣
Finally, Peugeot is producing well made cars. After the 508 also the 208.
Who came straight to the comments? 😂
We did!
@@carwow oh haha! Didn't expect a reply from you @carwow I love your content man, keep up the good work! Love you♥️
but why so many adverts?
It is just me or the sound is done a bit bad? There are moments when Mat's voice is loud and clear and moments when it can be barely heard..
Not just you. Had to bumb up the volume to 75% to hear him normally while he was driving the car. I usually hold it under 50%.
Ah puteam sa scriu direct in romana :))
@@mihnealazar7039 era mai simplu, da 😂
I love mine, literally not one complaint.
Lmao. That engine cover could be hiding a Diesel engine like that Cars movie
I like the styling of the car, it looks really good
I think you should try to be less critical of charging times... You complained about it having a 22 hour charge on a 3-pin plug but that isn't even included with the car... The overwhelming majority of EV owners will opt to use a 7Kw wall charger at home or work etc. (Which the government also give you a grant towards)
Awesome video Mat! I wish we’d get Peugeot in the US!😸😸
Hi. Great channel ! Would appreciate it if you talked this year about the available commercial solutions (if any...) and the price for replacing the electric batteries in all these EV or phev cars. Just did a Tesla Model 3 test drive in Europe and as of now, battery replacement is 20 000 EUR. Doesn't this simply rule out these cars beyond their warranty deadline or as pre-owned cars for the greatest majority of people ? As of today what guarantee is there to have a compatible commercially available and affordable solution to replace the EV / PHEV battery beyond 160 000 kms or 8 years let's say ? Best.
Just wish Peugeot could bring their cars to the US.
you really ain't losing anything .. reliability zero.. it's French.. all nice and shiny but shit quality.. talking from experience.. and now they bought Opel/Vauxhall too :( :(
@@crismam1531 Most people I know who own Peugeot are fairly happy with their cars so yoir experience is not necessarily a good representation.
Carwow. Can you do a comparison between the Jaguar F Type R and the Bentley Continental GT,really would be interesting what the difference is between the two British Beasts. Apart from the price not much on paper,what do you say ?
I loved the part where you hammered on the door and yelled "Shut Up!" 😂😂
These videos are becoming unwatchable with all the bloody adverts
What a stunning looking car I really love Peugeot's designs lately, they keep nailing it.
Except the Interior...I sat in a 508 recently and the interior quality is just awfully cheap, my almost 30 year old 309 and 306 have way more luxurious interiors than a new executive car.
I think it's a great car but going to wait to see your review of the VW ID3 before choosing.
Peugeot are really winning me in the design department the 208 looks phenomenal
I saw one earlier this week out on the road. Looked gorgeous to be honest. Definitely not just another boring small car.
Same here looks so posh
3:54 I love that "Leaf" in the front grill
Just too expensive...Especially now, the price of batteries has come down..It's like, they don't want you to buy a electric one and still buy the petrol or diesel one instead :-(
UA-cam: 2 views, 100 likes
True
Hi Matt, fyi the charging rate is measured in kW not kWh. kWh is for the battery capacity.
My first car was a 4th hand Peugeot 207 diesel hdi with over a 100k and that car is still going today. I think Peugeot diesels are some of the most economical around and can really last if looked after. Im seriously considering the new diesel 208 as I don't think I'm going to be disappointed. Thanks Matt for your reviews keep them coming!
Looks amazing but i wouldn’t get one due to traveling to work 120 miles a day and that means charging every day mmm no thanks
So the little hazzle of plugging your car in is too much to for you?
Well if i hade a driveway yeah but i dont so i have to sit somewhere for 30 min minimum to charge ....
@carwow im looking to buy either the regular 208 or the 2020 Renault Clio, when will you compare these two?
Or atleast review the Clio?
I’d love to see a review of the new hybrid clip
Great car I have one but the real range is 160 - 180 miles. 👍
Curious... why such a big difference from what it was rated for?
@@mulox1, these vehicles are really affected and negatively impacted by the weather and ambient temperature. The 217 quoted miles is achievable in the summer. 👍
Is this Tom Holland's dad
Buying an electric is spending more money for less car
It's just virtue signalling. No environmental benefit when you consider full lifecycle including minimum batteries.
Depends on where you live. In Germany people get 9k of their money back when buying an electric currently. Makes them decent value
@@markc6714 Nonsense. You need to raise your awareness.
Maybe, this kind of fake ev’s with a small engine fitted on the fosil engine are disgusting. However a Tesla model 3 could be a good purchase, nice exterior, clean interior, not high quality products but good charge points infrastructure, but quite expensive
@@adrirm7645 "Fake ev" tf is the point ?
Why is the 0-60 time so important in car reviews? Youre never gonna floor it at the lights are you.
Why important? It's not, but EV's offer almost no advantages over ICE vehicles. So EV fanboys and YT'ers think they can sway you into thinking they are great if they mention the instantaneous torque and speed. I'm confident in saying that the 0-60 thing is probably at the bottom of the list, as a feature, for 90% of car buyers.
Hello, I can’t think of what to say but have a great day 😊(I posted a similar comment on yesterday’s video)
I have a GT Premium - great car
When your talking about speed and fuel can you do it in litres and kilometres.
Nonga Big Man please!
Salutations à tous les français fanatiques de carwow.
Hey Matt, I really enjoy your videos but as a non-british person I'm getting confused with the miles and miles per gallon thing. It would be really cool if you show the km and L/100km for fuel consuption in the future videos too. 🧐
STILL too expensive, you'd think these million dollar car companies would throw us a freekin bone we all want electric cars but their prices are too high for gas and electric.... they just want us to rent it off them.... making regular income for them.
As for now, EV's are already cheaper to produce than ICE, the fact is that if they made them cheaper they'd struggle to sell the ICE models (for which they have production chains already set up)
Yay early finally....
Umm I dunno what to say love the vids wash your hands
Just washed hands...after killing myself at the examinations department in our country. Honestly I think it's run by sloths....
Why is there no New clio review yet ?
Damn im early