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100%, the A's don't want the embarrassment of the Ballers outdrawing them. They are so petty it's ridiculous. If they are truly gone to Vegas then get out already.
Agree with you 100% on this. The only reason why the A's can't move to Vegas right now (besides not starting work on building a new stadium) is because the MLBPA would object big time to them using the LV Ballpark due to the summertime heat. Then there is the schedule conflict with the Aviators, though the Aviators can always play their games at either Cashman Field (especially since the Lights of USL are the only tenant & only play on weekends) or at UNLV's baseball stadium.
This is hilarious! Oakland and the A’s are going through a divorce, but are still sharing the same house. Oakland wanted to bring her new boyfriend for a romantic evening. The tension is real!
I'm a Mariners fan and been envious of the A's success over the years. I been following your channel for about a year and just realized I wasn't subbed. We're a similar size market and have gone through sports relocation a few times as has Oakland. Cheering for some kind of retention of baseball in Oakland.
@@brodiebrazil The kid wearing the A's hat point you made is the reality in Seattle for the Supersonics. It's just older guys like me wearing Sonics hats. Seattle has had some good luck with Oakland born sports stars like GP and Marshawn. Thank you Oakland!
I agree that the optics won't be good if the B's outdraw the A's in their own stadium, but why would that be a problem for the A's now? Fisher has done enough to bring shame to this once storied franchise. It's frustrating that he even calls himself a steward of the team and the game.
@chipwhitley6509 how do they come up with an amount to claim? What are the damages? There needs to be a basis for a jury to award an amount... If they sue for breach of contract all they will get is the opportunity to break their lease which doesn't matter
@robbyc408 You can claim anything in damages. They can say that they would've had to pay for the maintenance crew and the revenue the B's and the city got from the concessions, ticket sales, etc, didn't go to them and punitive damages for breach of contract. Not saying that they'd get a ton of money, but I could see the A's and Fisher being petty like that
The City said the ONLY WAY they will extend their lease, is if the A's left the name 'A's' in Oakland upon re-locating. SCREW THAT! The team belongs to the owner, NOT THE CITY.
@@DMalltheway They don’t give a rats ass about the people. On the Nevada legislators own web site 71% of people voted against public money being used to bring the A’s and they voted for it anyway because their only care is about the casinos and tourists because that’s the tax revenue .. The people don’t matter that why you only find real police presence on the strip where the cops get to eat for free .
Get someone to buy the A's. If not from NorCal then there are some Middle Eastern types with deep pockets who have shown an interest in American Sports. Then let Fisher and Co. have an expansion team in Vegas.
Yet the A's have options on the table to share other teams ballparks for partial or even full seasons during the interim while the Vegas stadium is being built
Dude! I’m a huge Owlz fan and if this game does get played in the Coliseum I may have to cash in a few miles and go to this game! The A’s ownership is terrible, you all are gonna love the Pioneer League and the Ballers.
The A's: This stadium is crap...we've been trying to get out of it for decades...it's so bad that after this last year of our lease we may/ are leaving town forever....what's that? some other team want's to use this stadium for 1 day...NO IT'S OURS AND OURS ALONE!
If they dont want a years long legal battle with the city over the site, they sure arent showing any goodwill here. If I was the city id toss the A's out and have the B's play in the coliseum for a couple years.
The A's have ruined a great baseball franchise and its diehard fanatic fanbase and they should do whatever they can to make their eventual move as easy as possible for the city of Oakland and all of their fans. Plus they need to think long and hard before they do anything because its going to impact their move to neon city
Only to screw over Vegas residents with taxes to pay for the stadium and a minimum payroll to keep the revenue sharing in their pocket while you overpay for tickets and food.
I think it’s absolutely disgusting what the A’s have done I will not stand for it and it reassures me I made the right decision to check out now and start a new life with the Phillies & Ballers
To me, part of the B’s identity is to be the alternative to the A’s. The proverbial middle finger to the A’s relocation. I mean, the name alone screams it. Of course the A’s were going to say no. The B’s knew it. Oakland knew it. The city council gets to look good by protesting the A’s decision. The B’s get to look like they’re being bullied by the A’s and enhance their brand as the alternative to the hated A’s. The A’s get to be the bad guy, which is fine because they were leaving anyhow. At least, that’s my take on it.
First of all, as Brodie pointed out, the terms of the existing A's contract at the Coliseum gives them the right to refuse the Ballers playing a game there. That alone should be sufficient to end talk about this issue. We live in a country of laws and contracts that help maintain order. Enforcement of explicit language of a contract is important. In order to not waste any sort of time and effort, the Ballers should have been informed about this at the very beginning of their negotiations to play at the Coliseum. If the Ballers wanted the A's to allow them to play there, they should have offered something of value to the A's as compensation, or they should have pushed for Oakland/Alameda County officials to give the A's something they want (e.g. favorable lease terms at the Coliseum in 2025-2027). If the Ballers were aware of the A's right of refusal and still pursued this anyway without any sort of significant compensation to the A's, then that is an indication that this was just a publicity stunt by the Ballers from the very beginning. Secondly, if Oakland officials were still hoping, in the event plans fell through in Las Vegas, that the A's would reconsider staying in Oakland, then this pretty much ends that discussion. Kaplan and Jenkins grandstanding in this way does nothing but demonstrate to the A's that there is significant bad blood remaining on the part of Oakland officials, and any sort of pathway to a future deal that would keep the A's in Oakland no longer exists. Third, I find it hilarious that Kaplan and Jenkins are pretending to be so interested in the revenue and jobs in Oakland that would be generated from a single Ballers game. If they actually cared about business and jobs, their positions and past voting records on a great many issues would have to be drastically different. You can't have a career based on virtue signaling and being "woke" and then all of a sudden claim that you actually care about business and creating jobs. If you look at their records, these council members have a pattern of making Oakland an unfriendly and unattractive place to do business.
Of course it was all for show. The Ballers knew as did Oakland. My take is that very few people will care about rule of law with MLB and the A's. It is just a show to make the A's look bad because they were petty and being a pismire if they don't let the made up team play. Yet they also know that the made up team will draw a lot of protesting fairweather fans. Damned if they do and damned if they don't. A's should have said yes, but only on the condition they get half the house take, not profits, half of all money taken in except the private leased concessions. If they took half the take of the concessions they wouldn't show up just to lose money and the A's would really look no different than denying the Ballers in the first place. More bad blood, but the A's should have made a counter-offer like we get half. You'll embarrass us, but we make a fortune. I mean it never bothered Fisher before!
If fisher was smart he could take the lease money that the Ballers would pay and use it to pay for the Vegas ballpark, since it appears he can’t find any other funding?
You can definitely blame the A’s. It’s not a competitor, the A’s are mlb they simply do not care about the community just like mlb doesn’t truly care about the communities they sit in. fisher truly doesn’t know how to run a team or build healthy relationships
The Athletics and Ballers are both professional baseball teams. Even if one is a top level team and one is a very low level, they engage in similar activities. They are both competing for the same set of people (in this case, baseball fans in the Oakland area). If the A's have the right to say no to any other entity to use the facilities during a certain time frame, then they have that right. It was bargained for and approved by all sides in the lease. Doesn't have to be popular. Not everything is. JCPenny (major well known department store) is not going to allow Boscov's (Pennsylvania known, but much smaller department store) set up a mini store in their much larger store that they leased and bargained for as another example. Even if for one day... can't blame JCPenny...
@@mrmoose6619 if jc penny’s was going out of business you think they care who fills the spot they vacated? Holds no bearing if the A’s are truly out and going to Vegas. I hear what you’re saying and there are reasons why of course… it really comes to the A’s are scared and mlb doesn’t want to get shown up after all their lying.
@@stefanbrown5872 The A's haven't vacated though. They still have a valid negotiated lease through the 2024 season. They intend to play baseball in Oakland at the Coliseum as their home for 2024. Unless the Ballers intend for this game at the Coliseum to be played until 2025, they do not have the absolute right to the Coliseum under the lease the A's have. The A's have the right to say no. Just like JCPenny would have the right to say no to Boscov's (or any other store) to go into their space until the bargained for lease is expired or mutually agreed to have ended. You are correct in that the A's have no right after they vacate the Coliseum. Unless they successfully negotiate to play in the Coliseum for 2025 (and beyond), once the terms are met, it's over. The Ballers (or the Oakland Men's Softball League or whoever else) can enter into a lease to use the Coliseum as they see fit if they want to. And yes, the A's don't want to get shown up by their competitors.
Because the Coliseum is now 1/2 owned (exactly) by 2 entities, is there an adjudicating authority to arbitrate (binding) this action? That would be the most fair thing to do.
To me, part of the B’s identity is to be the alternative to the A’s. The proverbial middle finger to the A’s relocation. I mean, the name alone screams it. Of course the A’s were going to say no. The B’s knew it. Oakland knew it. The city council gets to look good by protesting the A’s decision. The B’s get to look like they’re being bullied by the A’s and enhance their brand as the alternative to the hated A’s. The A’s get to be the bad guy, which is fine because they were leaving anyhow. At least, that’s my take on it.
Nah we actually do. Before mlb was here we had baseball and after they are gone we will have baseball. It’s just sad fisher was too dumb and inept to get the job done…. Even sadder clowns wanna take his side knowing full well the villain he is and how wrong this all is….
I am a baseball historian, but am not sure that this is the same thing. Baseball was a lot bigger in general before the A's came to Oakland. I am not sure that people will show up for seasons on end. Especially when it dawns on them that this is not premier talent. @@stefanbrown5872
The A’s didn’t build the Coliseum lmao, the city built it and they moved in. In fact, Fisher refuses to build his own ballpark considering how much he wants the government/taxpayers to build it for him.
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100%, the A's don't want the embarrassment of the Ballers outdrawing them. They are so petty it's ridiculous. If they are truly gone to Vegas then get out already.
Agree with you 100% on this. The only reason why the A's can't move to Vegas right now (besides not starting work on building a new stadium) is because the MLBPA would object big time to them using the LV Ballpark due to the summertime heat. Then there is the schedule conflict with the Aviators, though the Aviators can always play their games at either Cashman Field (especially since the Lights of USL are the only tenant & only play on weekends) or at UNLV's baseball stadium.
Seriously! Leave already! They better not let stay 3+ lame duck move years
This is hilarious! Oakland and the A’s are going through a divorce, but are still sharing the same house. Oakland wanted to bring her new boyfriend for a romantic evening. The tension is real!
I'm a Mariners fan and been envious of the A's success over the years. I been following your channel for about a year and just realized I wasn't subbed. We're a similar size market and have gone through sports relocation a few times as has Oakland. Cheering for some kind of retention of baseball in Oakland.
i appreciate your comment, and support, thanks! (there was nothing like gary payton to sean kemp...)
@@brodiebrazil The kid wearing the A's hat point you made is the reality in Seattle for the Supersonics. It's just older guys like me wearing Sonics hats. Seattle has had some good luck with Oakland born sports stars like GP and Marshawn. Thank you Oakland!
@@togoandmossOr Malone to a 13 year old girl.
I think the A's are worried the B's will draw a bigger crowd!
😒👎
be hard to not
100% the A’s want people to think baseballs dead in Oakland…. But it’s not even close…..the A’s really are scared.
Yep. The A’s know that if the B’s are successful, MLB might grant Oakland an expansion team.
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I agree that the optics won't be good if the B's outdraw the A's in their own stadium, but why would that be a problem for the A's now? Fisher has done enough to bring shame to this once storied franchise. It's frustrating that he even calls himself a steward of the team and the game.
Exactly. He’s moving the team so why would he care if the Ballers outdraw the A’s?
The city should just go ahead with it.... whats fisher gonna do? Hire bouncers to block people? Claim breach of contract and leave?
Sue for a ton of money and win because they technically own half the stadium and can deny whomever they want to use their stadium?
@@chipwhitley6509The A's own half of the site, but not the facilities.
@chipwhitley6509 how do they come up with an amount to claim? What are the damages? There needs to be a basis for a jury to award an amount... If they sue for breach of contract all they will get is the opportunity to break their lease which doesn't matter
@@robbyc408 It's all part of their lease agreement.
@robbyc408 You can claim anything in damages. They can say that they would've had to pay for the maintenance crew and the revenue the B's and the city got from the concessions, ticket sales, etc, didn't go to them and punitive damages for breach of contract. Not saying that they'd get a ton of money, but I could see the A's and Fisher being petty like that
A's to the ballers: This is our stadium, find your own!
A's to MLB owners: heyyyy we need a place to pay for 3 years, will anyone share?
The A's don't give a frack about Oakland. Not one little bit. Oakland needs to make sure they don't renew that lease.
They DID--at ONE TIME, but NOT ANYMORE! There's NOW A load of BAD BLOOD. The A's will be gone after 2024.
The City said the ONLY WAY they will extend their lease, is if the A's left the name 'A's' in Oakland upon re-locating. SCREW THAT! The team belongs to the owner, NOT THE CITY.
Let the 'Ballers' go to Chukansi Park in Fresno. It's a nice Triple-A stadium that seats about 14 000
Ransom why you kissing Fishers ass?
If the A's need to play in a different park after next season, it would be hilarious to see the team of their temporary home, deny the A's access.
The owner of the River Cats is also the Sac Kings owner and is buddies with Fisher
Ballers should challenge the A’s to a game. If they win they get to play in the coliseum that day.
Wish Las Vegas would say the same to Fisher ..We only want professional teams playing in any stadium built in Las Vegas
Talk to your local politicians.
@@DMalltheway They don’t give a rats ass about the people. On the Nevada legislators own web site 71% of people voted against public money being used to bring the A’s and they voted for it anyway because their only care is about the casinos and tourists because that’s the tax revenue .. The people don’t matter that why you only find real police presence on the strip where the cops get to eat for free .
Boycott Gap and Banana Republic
Get someone to buy the A's. If not from NorCal then there are some Middle Eastern types with deep pockets who have shown an interest in American Sports. Then let Fisher and Co. have an expansion team in Vegas.
Yet the A's have options on the table to share other teams ballparks for partial or even full seasons during the interim while the Vegas stadium is being built
i'm not sure they do, yet
If I were in the Giant's organization, I'd offer up Oracle Park for free... how'd that look on the news Mr. Fisher?
Dude! I’m a huge Owlz fan and if this game does get played in the Coliseum I may have to cash in a few miles and go to this game! The A’s ownership is terrible, you all are gonna love the Pioneer League and the Ballers.
The A's: This stadium is crap...we've been trying to get out of it for decades...it's so bad that after this last year of our lease we may/ are leaving town forever....what's that? some other team want's to use this stadium for 1 day...NO IT'S OURS AND OURS ALONE!
Baller blockin!
If they dont want a years long legal battle with the city over the site, they sure arent showing any goodwill here.
If I was the city id toss the A's out and have the B's play in the coliseum for a couple years.
Fisher knows the B’s will get more people showing up to their game than any A’s game ..Just another huge embarrassment
I think the A’s shot themselves in the foot on this one.
How soon can the Ballers book a 2025 date? The A's can't stand in the way and the B's can still accomplish what they want too.
Its all about the attendance the A's know the B's will pack the coliseum and make them look bad....
This is like a bad breakup. I don't want to be with you, but I don't want you to be with anyone else.
Such a petty act by this despicable organization.
Maybe A’s fans can have a “Ballers” reverse boycott.
I don’t see why anyone would attend a single A’s home game this year.
The A's have ruined a great baseball franchise and its diehard fanatic fanbase and they should do whatever they can to make their eventual move as easy as possible for the city of Oakland and all of their fans. Plus they need to think long and hard before they do anything because its going to impact their move to neon city
The A’s are acting like spoiled children
Everyone is tired of the ownership of the Oakland Athletics. It’s time for them to move on go play in Las Vegas.
i think they're putting their maximum effort forward to make that happen
Thanks for your thoughts
Only to screw over Vegas residents with taxes to pay for the stadium and a minimum payroll to keep the revenue sharing in their pocket while you overpay for tickets and food.
Let them play there let them feel like big leaguers for one day!
call their bluff
If this is the stance the A’s take, I sure hope they don’t see playing at Oracle Park in the future as a possibility.
Eminent Domain the A’s out of Oakland.
No point trying to save the relationship - the A’s are openly just hating now.
We have divorced them already get out of town already 😂
Man they just don’t want the Ballers to have More fans than them and put em to Shame!! 😂😂
I think it’s absolutely disgusting what the A’s have done I will not stand for it and it reassures me I made the right decision to check out now and start a new life with the Phillies & Ballers
To me, part of the B’s identity is to be the alternative to the A’s. The proverbial middle finger to the A’s relocation. I mean, the name alone screams it. Of course the A’s were going to say no. The B’s knew it. Oakland knew it. The city council gets to look good by protesting the A’s decision. The B’s get to look like they’re being bullied by the A’s and enhance their brand as the alternative to the hated A’s. The A’s get to be the bad guy, which is fine because they were leaving anyhow. At least, that’s my take on it.
First of all, as Brodie pointed out, the terms of the existing A's contract at the Coliseum gives them the right to refuse the Ballers playing a game there. That alone should be sufficient to end talk about this issue. We live in a country of laws and contracts that help maintain order. Enforcement of explicit language of a contract is important. In order to not waste any sort of time and effort, the Ballers should have been informed about this at the very beginning of their negotiations to play at the Coliseum. If the Ballers wanted the A's to allow them to play there, they should have offered something of value to the A's as compensation, or they should have pushed for Oakland/Alameda County officials to give the A's something they want (e.g. favorable lease terms at the Coliseum in 2025-2027). If the Ballers were aware of the A's right of refusal and still pursued this anyway without any sort of significant compensation to the A's, then that is an indication that this was just a publicity stunt by the Ballers from the very beginning.
Secondly, if Oakland officials were still hoping, in the event plans fell through in Las Vegas, that the A's would reconsider staying in Oakland, then this pretty much ends that discussion. Kaplan and Jenkins grandstanding in this way does nothing but demonstrate to the A's that there is significant bad blood remaining on the part of Oakland officials, and any sort of pathway to a future deal that would keep the A's in Oakland no longer exists.
Third, I find it hilarious that Kaplan and Jenkins are pretending to be so interested in the revenue and jobs in Oakland that would be generated from a single Ballers game. If they actually cared about business and jobs, their positions and past voting records on a great many issues would have to be drastically different. You can't have a career based on virtue signaling and being "woke" and then all of a sudden claim that you actually care about business and creating jobs. If you look at their records, these council members have a pattern of making Oakland an unfriendly and unattractive place to do business.
Of course it was all for show. The Ballers knew as did Oakland. My take is that very few people will care about rule of law with MLB and the A's. It is just a show to make the A's look bad because they were petty and being a pismire if they don't let the made up team play. Yet they also know that the made up team will draw a lot of protesting fairweather fans. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.
A's should have said yes, but only on the condition they get half the house take, not profits, half of all money taken in except the private leased concessions. If they took half the take of the concessions they wouldn't show up just to lose money and the A's would really look no different than denying the Ballers in the first place. More bad blood, but the A's should have made a counter-offer like we get half.
You'll embarrass us, but we make a fortune. I mean it never bothered Fisher before!
If fisher was smart he could take the lease money that the Ballers would pay and use it to pay for the Vegas ballpark, since it appears he can’t find any other funding?
Can't blame the B's for trying. Can't blame the A's for saying no.
You can definitely blame the A’s. It’s not a competitor, the A’s are mlb they simply do not care about the community just like mlb doesn’t truly care about the communities they sit in.
fisher truly doesn’t know how to run a team or build healthy relationships
The Athletics and Ballers are both professional baseball teams. Even if one is a top level team and one is a very low level, they engage in similar activities. They are both competing for the same set of people (in this case, baseball fans in the Oakland area). If the A's have the right to say no to any other entity to use the facilities during a certain time frame, then they have that right. It was bargained for and approved by all sides in the lease. Doesn't have to be popular. Not everything is.
JCPenny (major well known department store) is not going to allow Boscov's (Pennsylvania known, but much smaller department store) set up a mini store in their much larger store that they leased and bargained for as another example. Even if for one day... can't blame JCPenny...
@@mrmoose6619 if jc penny’s was going out of business you think they care who fills the spot they vacated?
Holds no bearing if the A’s are truly out and going to Vegas.
I hear what you’re saying and there are reasons why of course… it really comes to the A’s are scared and mlb doesn’t want to get shown up after all their lying.
@@stefanbrown5872 The A's haven't vacated though. They still have a valid negotiated lease through the 2024 season. They intend to play baseball in Oakland at the Coliseum as their home for 2024. Unless the Ballers intend for this game at the Coliseum to be played until 2025, they do not have the absolute right to the Coliseum under the lease the A's have. The A's have the right to say no. Just like JCPenny would have the right to say no to Boscov's (or any other store) to go into their space until the bargained for lease is expired or mutually agreed to have ended.
You are correct in that the A's have no right after they vacate the Coliseum. Unless they successfully negotiate to play in the Coliseum for 2025 (and beyond), once the terms are met, it's over. The Ballers (or the Oakland Men's Softball League or whoever else) can enter into a lease to use the Coliseum as they see fit if they want to. And yes, the A's don't want to get shown up by their competitors.
It’s about the city of Oakland and not the EGO of John fisher
Opening Day and September 26 will be the largest crowds of the season
You should have explained who the Ballers are at the very beginning of the video.
Because the Coliseum is now 1/2 owned (exactly) by 2 entities, is there an adjudicating authority to arbitrate (binding) this action? That would be the most fair thing to do.
To me, part of the B’s identity is to be the alternative to the A’s. The proverbial middle finger to the A’s relocation. I mean, the name alone screams it. Of course the A’s were going to say no. The B’s knew it. Oakland knew it. The city council gets to look good by protesting the A’s decision. The B’s get to look like they’re being bullied by the A’s and enhance their brand as the alternative to the hated A’s. The A’s get to be the bad guy, which is fine because they were leaving anyhow. At least, that’s my take on it.
still crying ??
Nobody cares about oakland ballers like come on😂
Nah we actually do. Before mlb was here we had baseball and after they are gone we will have baseball.
It’s just sad fisher was too dumb and inept to get the job done…. Even sadder clowns wanna take his side knowing full well the villain he is and how wrong this all is….
They'll have more true fans than Vegas A's fans.
I am a baseball historian, but am not sure that this is the same thing. Baseball was a lot bigger in general before the A's came to Oakland. I am not sure that people will show up for seasons on end. Especially when it dawns on them that this is not premier talent. @@stefanbrown5872
Oakland’s butthurt, build your own ballpark ballers
weird
Brody your one-sided we get it
The A’s didn’t build the Coliseum lmao, the city built it and they moved in. In fact, Fisher refuses to build his own ballpark considering how much he wants the government/taxpayers to build it for him.
Isn’t it weird you comments have no relevancy to the video or the comments on it?
We get it Doug… you’re not that bright.
Go home Doug, fishy and karma miss you very badly! 😂😂