This continues to be such a very important and scientifically honest view of the situation in 2021. And yet it may be an understatement, as governments have done almost naught and achieved precious little since 2017. The curve humanity faces in coming off the rise in GHG due to increasing and continued use of fossil fuels is now a veritable precipice. But it must be done if anything coherent and positive is to remain of life on planet earth. Thanks again Stuart
Change has to come from top down. The drastic change in food production methods, transportation, housing, packaging, waste disposal, energy use. These are societal issues and cannot be effected by individual actions. It takes the law and government and science and strict enforcement. Not everybody will agree. Changes cannot be voluntary or optional.
climate change is a like a gigantic tidal wave. Some see it coming and are worried, wondering when it will arrive and what they can do about it, a few scientists are scrambling to warn others, but most are in complete denial. I started to pay attention to climate change in 2013, after I quit EPA [the US gov including EPA has never done anything about it]. I read the current IPCC Report [AR4] and was shocked by the enormous caveats, optimistic models and unfounded assumptions all of which were geared to underestimate the threat, issues like ice cap melting and feedbacks, and this hasnt changed, it continues.
all these "solutions" are big energy users also ! so we really need a major change of mindset/ lifestyle/ and unfortunately, sacrifice. i'm not very optimistic.
A child who is never born has a carbon & ecological footprint of exactly ZERO. But we’re still adding 200k new energy consumers everyday with no sign of slowing down, WASF
@TCR Galaxy We just passed 8 billion! Watching a population counter on the web is fascinating. SO many births. Also SO many deaths. But still a lot more births. And 2022 was new record global CO2 emissions. Yeah WASF. 😕
At 13:30 Anderson says we've never had a problem like this. Actually, before the American Civil War slaves represented the largest single asset class. Today, fossil fuels are the greatest single asset class. If you think those that hold fossil fuel assets will give them up on their own forget about it.
26:50 modular construction is great idea unfortunately items are designed to not be modular on purpose ... so you know you dont need to buy just compressor you need to buy whole damn fridge. Beside that what about designed expiration date... Its a lot of talking and nothing changes. Try convincing companies to make stuff solid so it does last for decades not years and we can start talking again
Once again so much talk about CO2 emission and role of technology to address it...some references to change in lifestyles but inadequate...I would have appreciated if the host or Prof Kevin not not 'loose talk' about lifestyle changes and be more specific about what exactly does he support in terms of alternative paradigmes?....Degrowth -SSE or any other....without delving into these critical discussions (driving everything else) i am afraid these discussions do nothing more than scare and numb most viewers...first step towards denial..I support your efforts but Dr Stuart Scott this channel can be a lot more radical considering you agree there is nothing left to lose.
Kevin Anderson Brilliant! Exact problems to be addressed -clarity and clear thinking and talking with REAL time frame taking action NOW, mitigating on personal levels NOW, and learning both and engineering levels and individual levels NOW. I particularly like his statement 18:00 Thank you for putting the emissions of Carbon to be sequestered in perspective with meaningful comparisons to our production of wast and natural resources utilization a very graspable meaning full comparison; and out lining personal responsibility at least at the level of throw away and buy new: we have a CHOICE, we can either chose to fail or we can choose to TRY
There is nothing that will stop fossil fuel emissions of carbon dioxide, except for the significant reduction of the human population and our global economic system. If the climate significantly disrupts the global economic system, the population will shrink.
Nonsense. We have the technology today to eliminate most fossil fuel use. It's just a matter of goring some very large oxen. If you want to say there is nothing that will stop ExxonMobil et al., I won't argue, but it's a political decision. It's not for lack of technology, and we do not have to live in caves and cross the ocean in container ships.
@IncognitoTorpedo It's been 4 years since these posts. And.... 2022 broke new global records for CO2 emissions. Even while we were warned YEARS ago that we needed to be cutting CO2 emissions year after year through 2030. We're not only NOT doing that, We're still burning even more. Even as renewables grow too.
These are interesting discussions but always Kevin Anderson’s main message is because of the enormity of the task global action, mitigation, must happen now. There is scant evidence of that happening nor even appearing likely to happen.
John, 'we' are trying to push global action. You are right in your assessment that there is scant evidence that ENOUGH is happening. But change is not a linear process. It occurs in jumps. YOU need to help make that jump. How? Share this channel and its content widely, hook up with citizensclimatelobby.org or the other groups pushing for significant changes. Or possibly support the 'paradigm shifting' Nobel Peace Prize proposal at NP4SD.org. With each person that decides to take personal action, our chances of survival improve.
thats fine but I believe democratic pressure takes time and we do not have time. Kevin asserts here that SLR is going to be multi century process. His basis for this is past ice cycles, but such are not relevant to the current facts; ice caps usually have taken centuries but we are not in that context.
"we've failed to do our jobs properly" Yes, in fifty years scientists haven't realized that only 1/3 of voters identify as "technical" or "scientific" and get their climate science information from reading or lectures, the rest of us non-scientists are kinesthetic learners, with an entirely different learning style, who still deserve to understand enough to be able to identify and support good solutions when they arise. Every scientist should be paired with a K-12 educator and a liberal arts major, before they communicate to the public.
Why is it that rich people get to decide these geo engineering projects ? This sort of thing decides the future of us , our families, and every living thing on this planet. Our lifestyles are going to be drastically changed. We either accept and make the best of it or we deny and go extinct.
I agree with quitting the loose talk... sold my 2 cars in 2004... i walk, bus and Metro since then.. feel great; when you said that 99.9 % of people at the COP 23 came to Bonn by plane... i say well there are many things they did not understand yet, did they? stop the talking and change things in your life..... By the way what is this nice theme music you use at the beginning of all your videos? thank's again and continue the good work!
Lou, thanks for your engagement. You are one of the rare people who are 'walking the walk', literally and figuratively. Thank you for that, and for sharing this media with others. The 'fly to a city' meetings certainly have to stop in the future. I declined to go to a conference in Montenegro, so they said I could make my presentation by Skype. So this is happening. Fast enough, I don't think so. But as the damage from climate change becomes clearer, these sorts of things will happen faster. Whether or not the planet will stabilize in a range we can survive with is the question. The theme music was written by a friend and is actually based upon a metaphysical/spiritual set of tonalities and vowel sounds. It is meant to resonate in the spirit or soul. A lot of people notice the music and I am very happy about that. I don't like to 'pitch things' but the CD is still available, though hard to find. It is called The Sound of Light, but Taato Gomez and friends. You can search for it.
Heres an interesting insight ....think on a model of the Earth to gain an insight into how fragile and precious our living space / biosphere actually is. An 8inch football = Earth 1mile = one thou inch. Therefore half mile up and half mile down = 1 mile .... usable space = the thickness of a cigarette paper (0.001"). Note copier paper is too thick at 4 miles, newsprint ditto at 2 miles.
I've done one program on Population (ua-cam.com/video/VlqddQd_Jug/v-deo.html), but the guests were not really ready to approach that 'sacred cow'. I intend to do another at COP-24 if possible. It is talked about a lot, but not nearly enough by the policy makers since it is such an unpopular subject politically.
Population control is such a contentious subject. It's simply beyond most peoples ability to consider or advocate. Shame considering it's the one thing that could save the human race if it were considered and acted upon. But as that seems impossible, nature will do it's own dirty work and remove the majority of people from this planet anyway, via flood, drought, famine.
Lower population is not good enough. Barely 50 k people existed in the Americas 10 k year ago and they wiped out the megafauna of those lands. We need to change our lifestyles or die by them. By 2100 our oil lifestyle will cost us trillions more to live by than not at all.
@@FacingFuture , watch on utube, Solarized walk assist device Also, Solarized walk assist device - camper build. Billions of individuals switching to these low cost, low material, highly versatile machines will create a new paradigm shift. People will have lots of time to produce food ( plant food bearing trees and bushes), gardens instead of pretty looking lawns. Humanity slows down (transportation speed), grazing animals, sheep for food/clothing, etc Unlimited energy (photovoltaics), unlimited transportation (Solarized e-vehicles), unlimited food/housing. Humanities paycheck will be experiencing and learning.
Our Planet and its creatures that live within its biosphere has so much interdependence. We are unable to predict the outcome, but one thing is for sure, Humans will not be able to keep burning fossil fuel and survive. We are at a point that in just a few generations humans will have a much smaller inhabitable zone to live and grow food. Our Generation will see profound changes that will kill millions. The animals and plants that live with us will suffer even more than we do. The planets current biomass is in a free fall as this video plays. Just look at insects and plankton. DO THE MATH
I do try to promote that lifestyle, and it is not an all or nothing thing. More of a plant-based diet and less reliance on livestock is all in the right direction. See our video on Food Choices ua-cam.com/video/zmFBhxOB5qc/v-deo.html
Exactly, it's climate chaos we're obviously facing. Climate change is so weak a term, as easily denied. Then "global warming" while may the the problem on the aggregate whole scale, the suspiciously overlooked major factor of deforestation, should've tweaked that term into GLOBAL WARNING long ago. Cuz forests are known to be the major climate stabilizers. So clearcut logging causes a wrecking ball swing of extremes, be it between droughts & floods or temperature extremes. We got our first frost Aug 28th this year
When will you guys start talking about Resource Based Economy? These are good stories but you are just showing the problem without telling any proper solutions. We all know the only solution is revolution, in our system and our culture. And by the way, comparing building an oil platform with engineering the most sophisticated living organism, which is Earth, is a little far off from being wise.
You haven't been watching many of the videos if you've missed the 'big picture' solutions. Check out ua-cam.com/video/ATIm8Ov1Fks/v-deo.html. I've been pushing Ecological Economics as a means of avoiding our catastrophic trajectory for years.
The only way it is remotely possible to have any chance to turn this around is to end the monetary system and work together as one planet. I don't see this happening at all, I'm beginning to accept that we are doomed and just live my life the best I can with love and respect!
@Advanced Civilisation47 Even 3 years ago when you posted I would have still held out some hope we could make it happen. I've lost that hope. Humanity won't save itself. We don't have it in us on large scales.
I'd love to listen to this but it's just too unbearable. It's always men talking. All the reasons we are in the shithole is because we adopt mens' systems. I recognize that there are "plenty of good men". But money is a totally male idea as is an economy as is language even itself (remember - women were prohibited from getting an education or being involved in public life) So the same concepts keep doing the rounds. You'd think that hearing from men so much, they are always on panels and women input is rarely invited, so we keep on rehashing the same old concepts. Men cannot see out of their box, women can. The male system is so backed up on itself like a faulty sewer line, it just can't get out of its own way. You would think men would be curious about getting another point of view. Women don't get things done that is true, but women have better ideas because women are used to change - their bodies change a lot throughout life so change is baked in for women. But men just get jammed up. Why are men not asking women to engage with them in these discussions? It's not even a thang.
We are actually bringing both men and women into our shows. UA-cam seems to 'prefer' this video over others when making suggestions to viewers, though. You may want to have a look at this show, also from COP-23, featuring James Hansen's granddaughter Sophie Kivlehan: ua-cam.com/video/_shhcGeY1Ao/v-deo.html
This continues to be such a very important and scientifically honest view of the situation in 2021. And yet it may be an understatement, as governments have done almost naught and achieved precious little since 2017. The curve humanity faces in coming off the rise in GHG due to increasing and continued use of fossil fuels is now a veritable precipice. But it must be done if anything coherent and positive is to remain of life on planet earth. Thanks again Stuart
Change has to come from top down. The drastic change in food production methods, transportation, housing, packaging, waste disposal, energy use. These are societal issues and cannot be effected by individual actions. It takes the law and government and science and strict enforcement. Not everybody will agree. Changes cannot be voluntary or optional.
climate change is a like a gigantic tidal wave. Some see it coming and are worried, wondering when it will arrive and what they can do about it, a few scientists are scrambling to warn others, but most are in complete denial. I started to pay attention to climate change in 2013, after I quit EPA [the US gov including EPA has never done anything about it]. I read the current IPCC Report [AR4] and was shocked by the enormous caveats, optimistic models and unfounded assumptions all of which were geared to underestimate the threat, issues like ice cap melting and feedbacks, and this hasnt changed, it continues.
all these "solutions" are big energy users also ! so we really need a major change of mindset/ lifestyle/ and unfortunately, sacrifice. i'm not very optimistic.
🤔 They need to be talking about Human population. That’s going to be key in finding a solution to this problem.
A child who is never born has a carbon & ecological footprint of exactly ZERO. But we’re still adding 200k new energy consumers everyday with no sign of slowing down, WASF
@TCR Galaxy We just passed 8 billion! Watching a population counter on the web is fascinating. SO many births. Also SO many deaths. But still a lot more births. And 2022 was new record global CO2 emissions. Yeah WASF. 😕
At 13:30 Anderson says we've never had a problem like this. Actually, before the American Civil War slaves represented the largest single asset class. Today, fossil fuels are the greatest single asset class. If you think those that hold fossil fuel assets will give them up on their own forget about it.
What are you going to do when no water comes out of the faucet, when there is no food on the supermarket shelves and no fuel for your car.
The man from the Homo Sapiens Society hit the nail pretty much on the head.
26:50 modular construction is great idea unfortunately items are designed to not be modular on purpose ... so you know you dont need to buy just compressor you need to buy whole damn fridge.
Beside that what about designed expiration date...
Its a lot of talking and nothing changes. Try convincing companies to make stuff solid so it does last for decades not years and we can start talking again
Once again so much talk about CO2 emission and role of technology to address it...some references to change in lifestyles but inadequate...I would have appreciated if the host or Prof Kevin not not 'loose talk' about lifestyle changes and be more specific about what exactly does he support in terms of alternative paradigmes?....Degrowth -SSE or any other....without delving into these critical discussions (driving everything else) i am afraid these discussions do nothing more than scare and numb most viewers...first step towards denial..I support your efforts but Dr Stuart Scott this channel can be a lot more radical considering you agree there is nothing left to lose.
Kevin Anderson Brilliant! Exact problems to be addressed -clarity and clear thinking and talking with REAL time frame taking action NOW, mitigating on personal levels NOW, and learning both and engineering levels and individual levels NOW. I particularly like his statement 18:00 Thank you for putting the emissions of Carbon to be sequestered in perspective with meaningful comparisons to our production of wast and natural resources utilization a very graspable meaning full comparison; and out lining personal responsibility at least at the level of throw away and buy new: we have a CHOICE, we can either chose to fail or we can choose to TRY
Try? NOW you say, 5 years ago was your post. And did we? No. 2022 saw record global CO2 emissions.
I'm so sorry. It's over. We failed.
There is nothing that will stop fossil fuel emissions of carbon dioxide, except for the significant reduction of the human population and our global economic system. If the climate significantly disrupts the global economic system, the population will shrink.
Nonsense. We have the technology today to eliminate most fossil fuel use. It's just a matter of goring some very large oxen. If you want to say there is nothing that will stop ExxonMobil et al., I won't argue, but it's a political decision. It's not for lack of technology, and we do not have to live in caves and cross the ocean in container ships.
@IncognitoTorpedo It's been 4 years since these posts. And.... 2022 broke new global records for CO2 emissions. Even while we were warned YEARS ago that we needed to be cutting CO2 emissions year after year through 2030. We're not only NOT doing that, We're still burning even more. Even as renewables grow too.
we could all wear white, white buildings white cars ETC ... but it still comes down to implementing change at every level NOW
Excellent discussion!
These are interesting discussions but always Kevin Anderson’s main message is because of the enormity of the task global action, mitigation, must happen now. There is scant evidence of that happening nor even appearing likely to happen.
John, 'we' are trying to push global action. You are right in your assessment that there is scant evidence that ENOUGH is happening. But change is not a linear process. It occurs in jumps. YOU need to help make that jump. How? Share this channel and its content widely, hook up with citizensclimatelobby.org or the other groups pushing for significant changes. Or possibly support the 'paradigm shifting' Nobel Peace Prize proposal at NP4SD.org. With each person that decides to take personal action, our chances of survival improve.
thats fine but I believe democratic pressure takes time and we do not have time. Kevin asserts here that SLR is going to be multi century process. His basis for this is past ice cycles, but such are not relevant to the current facts; ice caps usually have taken centuries but we are not in that context.
@@FacingFuture I feel bad for all those who've held out so much hope. I was one of them.
Provocative discussion. Thanks.
Great discussion. Thanks for the upload.
"we've failed to do our jobs properly" Yes, in fifty years scientists haven't realized that only 1/3 of voters identify as "technical" or "scientific" and get their climate science information from reading or lectures, the rest of us non-scientists are kinesthetic learners, with an entirely different learning style, who still deserve to understand enough to be able to identify and support good solutions when they arise. Every scientist should be paired with a K-12 educator and a liberal arts major, before they communicate to the public.
Mr. Hunt, I bow my head before you walking the walk.
Why is it that rich people get to decide these geo engineering projects ? This sort of thing decides the future of us , our families, and every living thing on this planet. Our lifestyles are going to be drastically changed. We either accept and make the best of it or we deny and go extinct.
I agree with quitting the loose talk... sold my 2 cars in 2004... i walk, bus and Metro since then.. feel great; when you said that 99.9 % of people at the COP 23 came to Bonn by plane... i say well there are many things they did not understand yet, did they? stop the talking and change things in your life.....
By the way what is this nice theme music you use at the beginning of all your videos? thank's again and continue the good work!
Lou, thanks for your engagement. You are one of the rare people who are 'walking the walk', literally and figuratively. Thank you for that, and for sharing this media with others. The 'fly to a city' meetings certainly have to stop in the future. I declined to go to a conference in Montenegro, so they said I could make my presentation by Skype. So this is happening. Fast enough, I don't think so. But as the damage from climate change becomes clearer, these sorts of things will happen faster. Whether or not the planet will stabilize in a range we can survive with is the question.
The theme music was written by a friend and is actually based upon a metaphysical/spiritual set of tonalities and vowel sounds. It is meant to resonate in the spirit or soul. A lot of people notice the music and I am very happy about that. I don't like to 'pitch things' but the CD is still available, though hard to find. It is called The Sound of Light, but Taato Gomez and friends. You can search for it.
Heres an interesting insight ....think on a model of the Earth to gain an insight into how fragile and precious our living space / biosphere actually is.
An 8inch football = Earth
1mile = one thou inch.
Therefore half mile up and half mile down = 1 mile
.... usable space = the thickness of a cigarette paper (0.001").
Note copier paper is too thick at 4 miles, newsprint ditto at 2 miles.
One degree Centigrade has brought the crisis we now face. Thus two degrees would be more consequential than 1.5 ° by powers of 10.
anyone going to talk about having fewer or no children?
I've done one program on Population (ua-cam.com/video/VlqddQd_Jug/v-deo.html), but the guests were not really ready to approach that 'sacred cow'. I intend to do another at COP-24 if possible. It is talked about a lot, but not nearly enough by the policy makers since it is such an unpopular subject politically.
Population control is such a contentious subject. It's simply beyond most peoples ability to consider or advocate. Shame considering it's the one thing that could save the human race if it were considered and acted upon. But as that seems impossible, nature will do it's own dirty work and remove the majority of people from this planet anyway, via flood, drought, famine.
Lower population is not good enough. Barely 50 k people existed in the Americas 10 k year ago and they wiped out the megafauna of those lands. We need to change our lifestyles or die by them. By 2100 our oil lifestyle will cost us trillions more to live by than not at all.
Good luck with that. Most people cannot control the urge to make babies.
@@FacingFuture , watch on utube, Solarized walk assist device
Also, Solarized walk assist device - camper build.
Billions of individuals switching to these low cost, low material, highly versatile machines will create a new paradigm shift.
People will have lots of time to produce food ( plant food bearing trees and bushes), gardens instead of pretty looking lawns.
Humanity slows down (transportation speed), grazing animals, sheep for food/clothing, etc
Unlimited energy (photovoltaics), unlimited transportation (Solarized e-vehicles), unlimited food/housing.
Humanities paycheck will be experiencing and learning.
what's the song called that's played at the beginning and and end of every UPFSI video? :)
Search for Agorume by Tato Gomez on UA-cam. Thanks for watching more than one video. And please share them widely.
I guess that I'm about 1000 tons per year ahead due to the way I manage my biodiversity sanctuary.
Our Planet and its creatures that live within its biosphere has so much interdependence. We are unable to predict the outcome, but one thing is for sure, Humans will not be able to keep burning fossil fuel and survive. We are at a point that in just a few generations humans will have a much smaller inhabitable zone to live and grow food. Our Generation will see profound changes that will kill millions. The animals and plants that live with us will suffer even more than we do. The planets current biomass is in a free fall as this video plays. Just look at insects and plankton. DO THE MATH
Great chat
Eating a vegan diet and reducing animal farms should also be promoted as it reduces the methane/carbon footprint.
I do try to promote that lifestyle, and it is not an all or nothing thing. More of a plant-based diet and less reliance on livestock is all in the right direction. See our video on Food Choices ua-cam.com/video/zmFBhxOB5qc/v-deo.html
I agree, better more of a good thing than nothing.
Exactly, it's climate chaos we're obviously facing. Climate change is so weak a term, as easily denied. Then "global warming" while may the the problem on the aggregate whole scale, the suspiciously overlooked major factor of deforestation, should've tweaked that term into GLOBAL WARNING long ago. Cuz forests are known to be the major climate stabilizers. So clearcut logging causes a wrecking ball swing of extremes, be it between droughts & floods or temperature extremes. We got our first frost Aug 28th this year
When will you guys start talking about Resource Based Economy? These are good stories but you are just showing the problem without telling any proper solutions. We all know the only solution is revolution, in our system and our culture. And by the way, comparing building an oil platform with engineering the most sophisticated living organism, which is Earth, is a little far off from being wise.
You haven't been watching many of the videos if you've missed the 'big picture' solutions. Check out ua-cam.com/video/ATIm8Ov1Fks/v-deo.html. I've been pushing Ecological Economics as a means of avoiding our catastrophic trajectory for years.
The only way it is remotely possible to have any chance to turn this around is to end the monetary system and work together as one planet. I don't see this happening at all, I'm beginning to accept that we are doomed and just live my life the best I can with love and respect!
@Advanced Civilisation47 Even 3 years ago when you posted I would have still held out some hope we could make it happen. I've lost that hope. Humanity won't save itself. We don't have it in us on large scales.
The laws of nature will dictate the fate of humanity, we will all be forced into the survivalist camp vs the profiteers camp. EH !
HEMP / BAMBOO
Useful, sustainablel building materials.
I'd love to listen to this but it's just too unbearable. It's always men talking. All the reasons we are in the shithole is because we adopt mens' systems. I recognize that there are "plenty of good men". But money is a totally male idea as is an economy as is language even itself (remember - women were prohibited from getting an education or being involved in public life) So the same concepts keep doing the rounds. You'd think that hearing from men so much, they are always on panels and women input is rarely invited, so we keep on rehashing the same old concepts. Men cannot see out of their box, women can. The male system is so backed up on itself like a faulty sewer line, it just can't get out of its own way. You would think men would be curious about getting another point of view. Women don't get things done that is true, but women have better ideas because women are used to change - their bodies change a lot throughout life so change is baked in for women. But men just get jammed up. Why are men not asking women to engage with them in these discussions? It's not even a thang.
We are actually bringing both men and women into our shows. UA-cam seems to 'prefer' this video over others when making suggestions to viewers, though. You may want to have a look at this show, also from COP-23, featuring James Hansen's granddaughter Sophie Kivlehan: ua-cam.com/video/_shhcGeY1Ao/v-deo.html
I have the solution: stop all industrial activity and plant fruit trees in urban areas.