IndyCar won’t take any initiative… they turned their back on Pocono after some bad wrecks which could’ve been prevented by better officiating. But somehow Texas gets a race every year despite being an absolute deadzone for racing fans. They refuse to race at Michigan, because they’re racing in Detroit… yet they have 3 events at IMS.
I agree in that the schedule has to have more variety. Oval wise their just isn't enough. The race at Texas this year was better, they desperately need to get more spectators to the race though, otherwise it's pretty pointless continuing to host it there. The crowds looked better when it was a night event. Not amazing but better. Hopefully, the race at Texas next year is just as good and that the people who saw the 2022 event, will come to the race. I think Michigan would be cool to see for sure.
Pocono has a unique layout and the series was starting to build a decent fanbase there, but the track needs to update their catchfences. Wickens' injuries wouldn't be as severe as they were if the track had the same fencing as tracks like IMS, and Fontana (Mike Conway and Mikhail Aleshin had similar crashes on those tracks, but eventually were able to fully recover from their injuries).
Speaking as a NASCAR fan, some of that is going to be the fact that several of the ovals that Indycar races on were designed for the much heavier stock cars that we bring to the track.
@@blueredlover1060 I can definitely see the point you're making. I think the Indycar's though have shown that the cars can race really well on the ovals. Sure it's harder to pass with the lower downforce package, but the races with the Superspeedway package have gotten better.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 I was referring to the catch fences. Pocono was designed with the slower and heavier stock cars in mind, so the shorter fences are at least in part because of that.
I fully agree with you. IndyCar has in my opinion the best racing in the world but a lack of promotion and risk taking is stifling growth. IndyCar needs to do things that get motorsports journalists talking. Make people go "Wow, IndyCar is doing what now? I gotta check that out!"
Indycar has a fantastic product and I agree that they need to do more social media wise on promoting the series. Sky Sports does a good job at promoting the series in the UK. The viewing figures for this years Indy 500 averaged 231,000 in the UK, which is fantastic.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 the racing is ok IMO. But the American Broadcasts are terrible with so many ads it makes following a race difficult. The fact that after 2 laps every race is a "fuel mileage" race really hurts it.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 And you see, that might be the issue unto itself... how many races are just in the US alone? I mean their has to be some places in South America at least that would welcome Indy. I know that here in Toronto, Indy is something of an annoyance generally which has been growing over the years and their will come a point where something (and COVID tired, Customs was difficult at the time of the perk) or someone (likely City Council) will rip that from Indy.
I remember when IndyCar used to race in mexico, japan and a one off in Brazil and England. There are more international drivers in the series than ever before shocking the series is not racing abroad.
I would certainly be happy if Indycar did race abroad. Although, I think they may need to make sure they get the core market in the US fully on side before thinking of international expansion. I don't see why they couldn't race in Mexico though. A charismatic, media friendly and obviously incredibly talented driver in Pato O'Ward and certainly at least one track which would be able to host an event. I imagine the reason it isn't on the schedule yet is down to financial and logistical impacts.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 from what i read it had to do with keeping the series cost down. For Mexico there really isn't a logical reason why. As they have had top drivers in IndyCar long before Patto.
@@terenceramroop Especially, considering how Pato has an aim of reaching F1, if I was an Indycar boss, I would go to Mexico now, whilst you have a superstar from that country in your series.
Japan maybe Twin Ring motegi Australia/New Zealand not which track would work best Maybe a race in Europe Phoenix oval Milwaukee mile Watkins glen Have two races in Canada
As primarily a NASCAR fan, I've just dipped my toes in Indycar (and open-wheel racing in general) this year and I'm loving it. I'd personally want to see more ovals and races in general on the schedule. I also have to wonder if there is any consideration on making the road-course spec cars faster and more on the line of F1 or F2 at least. While Indycar is based in the US and is a lot more accessable here, many in the US are getting turned on to F1 and I have to wonder how many people would perfer to tune in there just because the racing is more on the cutting edge of technology.
I think more races would definitely help. 20 is a good figure I would say. More ovals for a definite, I think the balance in terms of race tracks is too heavily swayed in the direction of the road spec races. I believe current Indycar's would in theory be about a second or two faster than a Formula 2 car (albeit no direct comparison is possible so that is a guess). I think the ground breaking performance that F1 has is a huge draw for new fans and is one that Indycar and indeed other racing categories will struggle to compare with. You raise a number of good points here. I hope you continue to enjoy Indycar as someone who's watched lots of NASCAR though.
Hopefully you continue to follow Indy and it continues to keep your interest. I think one of the biggest draws to Indy is the competition. It's almost anyones game at some points. I also think another thing that keeps Indy so enjoyable is the marshalling, or lack their of in some cases. They let them race, but when they see something that should have been avoided, they call it. And they are fair about the calls to. It's nothing is as bad as F1 or NASCAR with the favoritism or money trumps rules. Between Indy and IMSA you probably have the most consistent racing products out there. But for whatever reason, they just don't pull in big numbers. I think people just don't know how to actually experience road course racing and such. More so Endurance races. If you sit in the same spot all race, yeah it's going to be boring. You have to get out and walk around, walk around the pits, change sections, talk to fans, even visit the little car shows they often have tagged along with them. All to the background noises of cars racing around you.
I’ve watched like a few IndyCar races between 2010-2011, my first Indy 500 was 2011, but I officially got into the sport in 2012 religiously. I LOVE IndyCar! I’m obsessed and addicted to the sport. It’s my #1 favorite Motorsports series. However, it’s unfortunate that they still have some problems. The schedule is still crap due to having way way WAY too many road courses and less ovals. The racing product is of course beautiful! But I wish we had more ovals (even a 50/50 on ovals and circuits on the schedule) to see the beauty of the sport. Their marketing is still lackluster. They did put in some efforts on social media, but it’s still not big enough. They put on a lot of effort promoting the Indy 500, which is fair since that’s their biggest race, but I wish the promotion of the sport in general was like the Indy 500 to have fans tune in. I personally don’t mind Spec cars because I just love racing, but it would be awesome to see another chassis compete against the Dallara Universal Kit just like the Offenhauser’s, the Reynard’s, the Lola’s, and the Panoz’s for example. Something like that. IndyCar is doing way better now, like this is their golden era, different comparing to 90s CART. The car count is doing well, we got more drivers getting into the sport, more teams. The State of IndyCar is fantastic! But they’re not taking advantage of it to grow the sport more. I really hope they take advantage of how great the sport is because this is their chance!
I have very similar opinions to you. I believe Indycar is a series that has so many positive aspects about it, yet has the potential to be something even better. It's just about making sure that the potential is unlocked as much as possible.
a huge problem with Indycar is their market and not having a race anywhere near the southeast or New England, massive population centers going another year without IndyCar, I have been trying to see a race without driving 500+ miles for 3 years, and it's getting disheartening when I can go to 4 NASCAR races, 2 IMSA races, 2 NHRA races, 6 WoO/ASCoC tracks, SRX, SpeedTour, MotoAmerica, and even F1 along with, most forms of grassroots short track racing less than 4 hours away but somehow still no IndyCar
Location definitely matters, particularly in making sure that you extend the width and breadth of the country you're racing in as much as possible, just so you can get as many different people as possible to these races, whilst not having to travel several hours to a location.
Here in Brazil I watch Indycar Series since 2004 when Tony Kanaan wins the IRL championship, I watch for being something completely different from what F1 are, the race on Indy is more natural, without DRS, even with the push to pass don't cause some dependence in races, since 2018 the car bring a even better race for the competition, but if I have to guess? The marketing thing has to receive a better attention and funds. Take the Mid-Ohio races as a example, a lot of crowd there, Toronto, St Petersburg, Long Beach, also known for the public presence in the races, and I don't need to talk of Indy 500. If they marketing every race just like Indy biggest race, they will have a great product on their hands.
I agree in that certainly from a social media perspective, they need to do more in terms of marketing and getting the series out into the media verse more than they're currently doing. I hope that the new marketing promotions at Indycar can help get the series more exposure as well. Along with getting a budget that they'll be able to work with.
Absolutely agree! INDYCAR is a fantastic product but needs a bit of a shake up. Indy GP whilst good we don’t need it twice a season, I think we need circuits like Cleveland airport back again, and yes more oval races are needed although I don’t think we’ll ever see pack racing after vegas 2011. I think the season needs to stretch a bit longer too as finishing off in September as in previous seasons is far too early. Here’s hoping Penske spices things up!!!
One Indy GP race is enough I feel. Cleveland would be great to see back. More ovals for definite. For me it doesn't need to be pack racing. Maybe something closer to that than what the current Superspeedway package brings but certainly not Fontana 2015 levels. That's one of my favourite ever races, but not something we need every time we go to a big oval. I think the season should end later. I don't think that'll happen though given that's when the NFL starts.
Seeing some comments I think the majority wants more oval racing. In my opinion, the schedule should be of 20 races, with 6 to 10 oval races, that's what made me fall in love with IndyCar more than 10 years ago. Nowadays the cars are safer, and the tracks are also safer, I don't see any reason to not give a try to Fontana for example. The last race in 2015 was one of the greatest I've ever seen, since then and due to some incidents in Pocono the oval racing has been dying.
I totally agree. And what mystifies me most is that there are so many tracks in the US that are great and available and beyond that there are blindingly obvious markets to move into either at all or increase their involvement (Brazil, Mexico, Canada) without too much risk and Indycar just... doesn't
Nothing like as good as CART used to be. The real Superspeedways and short ovals should be 70% of the races. It's just another road racing series now, and lacks it's true American feel.
Time to go back to the good old days. Get rid of the spec chassis. Get rid of engine leases. Hell. The healthiest thing for the series would probably be 410 sprint car engines, and open dev on the IR18 starting 2024. Then hopefully new cars entirely after that. Maybe bump day would mean something if there were more than 70 tubs, and 36 engines.
There are so many perfectly good tracks for Indycar in South America and Europe, I really don’t understand why they wouldn’t even consider it. With the rise of F1 in the last years, the European interest in Indycar has also risen. I think (one off) races on motorsport crazy tracks like Mexico City, Monza, Silverstone, Zandvoort and Sao Paolo would would great
Those days will be very difficult to replicate. However, I definitely see a lot more potential in this series to get to a point where it could certainly make a greater mark on the racing landscape than it is now.
@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT I thought the merger was supposed to be a good thing! To produce a product better than what Champcar or the Indy Racing League could produce separately! 🙂
My biggest complaint (as a fan in the US) is NBC. Sure Peacock lets me watch Indy, IMSA and Sueprcross for only $5 a month but the ads in the middle of races, especially the Indy 500, is just stupid. Half of the crashes and other interesting overtakes for the lead of the Indy 500 happened when everyone in the US was stuck watching Ads. Indy needs their broadcast to be better! Especially compared to IMSA on the same platform where there are no ads, but there are sometimes breaks in commentary (a notable example is during the Rolex 24). The commentary stops, but the racing action is still there to watch, and you also get the pure sound of the cars. The commentary is also rather boring compared to IMSA. The worst part is that most of the commentators for Indy also commentate for IMSA as well, and seem to enjoy IMSA commentary more. I also think that Nashville and Toronto are basically the Monaco's of Indycar, not for their popularity or extravagance, but rather that both tracks are terrible for racing. The only way to really pass at either seems to be to dive into the inside and shove the other guy into the wall. The only real reason they are entertaining is the pit stop and tire strategies that shake up the races.
As I'm not from the US, I can't really say what the coverage is like from a US viewer's perspective. However, if you're getting adverts during the race, I can imagine it's pretty demoralising. In the UK, Indycar doesn't have any ad breaks during the whole broadcast. We also have a commentator based in the UK who fills in the gaps that the US broadcaster does. I can't really compare what the NBC IMSA commentary is like from my perspective as the only way to watch IMSA over here is via IMSA TV online and the commentary is via IMSA Radio, who do a great job in my view. I personally quite like Toronto and Nashville. Although, since Toronto was modified in 2016, the racing has seemed to have gotten a little worse. Nashville I can definitely understand also, is not to everyone's taste. However, it's a very unique track and one I wouldn't get rid of, albeit I wouldn't mind if they made some alterations to the layout.
As far as the two Indy GP races go, the only way to get rid of them is if NASCAR moves venues, since I believe that's a TV Network negotiating for it rather than the series in general. Also, the more ovals in Indycar is generally repeated amongst fans, however there is a lack of promoters willing to take a risk on the sport
I agree in that promotors are finding it difficult to want to do an oval race. However, in my opinion in would be in the best interests of the sport to try and add one or two more to the schedule.
@@walkerhound3934 I'd be very happy to see Richmond join the schedule. I'd be happier with a big oval, but any oval would do nicely, especially Richmond.
I would love to see Indy run a double header at Miami doing the oval and road course. Or Charlotte doing the oval then the roval in a Nascar weekend. We don't need two Indy road courses on the schedule, even Daly agrees and his step-dad is the president of the Speedway.
Indycar is being smart Penske has seen Indycar/cart/champ car implode. He’s seen nascar go from packed stands to half full stands. Also you couldn’t tell a difference sitting in the stands if the car flying by had a 2.2 or a 2.4 L engine. Look at F1 they spend crazy money and it’s unwatchable. Penske is a Motorsport grom. He loves racing. I hear you thou. I want a 20 race schedule and just one road course Indy race. One double weekend is cool (I went to Iowa).
Double headers for sure can work, Iowa was amazing to watch, just from sitting at home. I also don't doubt that Penske is someone who will be able to get the best out of this series and has also suffered challenges along the way. I just worry from Indycar's perspective that with F1 getting a stranglehold in the US, unless Indycar show a bit more initiative and do more to get the series out into the public's eyes, then F1 will push Indycar into the background further.
I wish they would go to the 2.4 v6, if they have to have a indy gp then there should only be 1 race, they need 1 more race in Canada and at least one race in Mexico, I think COTA would be great to go back too if not go back to the Houston street course that was a nice track.
I agree the Indy GP should be only one race. I think a race in Mexico is an important step in my opinion. I wouldn't mind a race in COTA but I feel that would just infer to any less regular Indycar fans that the sport is too similar to F1.
I've been a fan since arrive 1981. Current Indycar is literally the world's best funded vintage series. Penske only cares about the 500. I said that when he bought this thing, that's not going to change and he hasn't proven me wrong.
I can see why Penske would prioritise the 500. It is the biggest race finance wise for the series. I don't have an issue with that. However, better promotion of the rest of the Championship is really important in my opinion, because many casual viewers don't know that the Indycar Championship doesn't just consist of the Indy 500 and that the series has several other great locations where this Championship can shine.
@@DFSJR1203 "I remember back years ago when all races were on ovals" Do you mean when the IRL (with an all-oval schedule) was competing with CART/Champcar?! Where Champcar conversely went all road-course in '07 with the Panoz-Cosworth (where mostly or all road courses as Champcar had is my preference TBH)? Or do you mean the USAC championship being all-oval up to '78, until the CART championship came along and added Mosport and Watkins Glen, etc from '79 and then picked up Long Beach from F1 in '84 etc? 🙂
As long as they never get rid of Long Beach I’ll still watch the series haha but I def agree there needs to be new chassis and possibly new regs but something has got to change with IndyCar
It hasn't been the same since they eliminated most of the ovals and yes the Dan Wheldon incident was incredibly tragic and wickens getting paralyzed but the aeroscreens have done wonders for safety. I would at least like to see them go back to more ovals. They don't have to be big speedways. Richmond, new Hampshire, Milwaukee mile hell imagine Indycars on the new north wilkesboro in the future. The time has come to bring back more ovals!
As a European fan i think a race in Europe would really stir things up, just the one a year could really bring new fans in and well... European tracks are much different to those in the US so it'll be an interesting comparison
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 its highly unlikely unfortunately, though it would would a small thing that could spice things up a little bit. They used to race in Japan so they could go there too maybe if not Europe. But Motegi oval is not usable to my knowledge
@@DankBoyy00 It's not impossible and I think some venues would work nicely in Europe for Indycar. I believe the Motegi oval is now not possible to use at the moment.
I just felt that 3rd engine manufacturer wasn't that important, some races i don't think is necessary to be on the calendar(Texas, Indy GP2, Nashville). I rather want to see Indycar expand to other country, no need to be like CART or Champ Car style of calendar (which we know what is happen to both series). Try to expand to Canada, Mexico, Brazil and even Argentina, and put oval,road course and race track equally like maybe up to 19-21 races in a year IMO.
I think that number of races per year is an ideal amount. Expansion outside of America I feel is important, particularly in other North American or South American countries. Although, I think they need to try and build up a greater home audience in the US before trying to expand elsewhere. I don't see why a Mexican race in particular couldn't work though. Maybe it's for financial or logistical reasons. However, with Pato O'Ward setting his sights on a potential F1 future, I think now would be a great time to capitalise on the Mexican market.
I was the trophy maker for Vancouver / Toronto 99/03 . Back in the days of V8 turbo engines with Penske , Lola , Reynard , Eagle . With Goodyear and Firestone . I love Indy Car , BUT we need more than one car . I want my race in Vancouver back ........ NOW , NOW , NOW !!
I think a race at Watkins Glen would be great. Although, spectator numbers were the issue for the 2017 race, hence the event's cancellation, so if they do go back for another attempt, it'll have to be well supported.
Maybe the series should start taking some risks. As for my personal perfect list of tracks (or schedule), it looks like this: 1st race should be on Homestead. It would be a crazy idea to have the opener of IndyCar and the closer of NASCAR on the very same oval! I'd be down for it! 2 - St. Petersburg, maybe make it on the day before Superbowl? 3 - Long Beach - I don't want 2 street circuits in a row, but it might be necessary. 4 - Laguna Seca. 2 weeks break for the 1st intercontinental leg. 5 - Adelaide - lots of Aussies and New Zealanders race in Indy, thus a race down under might be a good idea. 6 - Fuji - why wouldn't Honda try and make a race there? Suzuka would be tough for these cars, thus I say Fuji. 2 weeks break to go back to the US. 7. Indy GP 8. Indy 500 1 week break for the second intercontinental leg. 9. Brands Hatch 10. Lausitzring - but it has a sad reputation, I watched Zanardi's crash. 11. Hungaroring or Jerez I wanna see Baku or Singapore, but that is very unlikely to happen. F1 might not aggree. 1 week break to go back to America. 12 - Interlagos 13 - Hermanos Rodriguez 14 - Gateway 15 - Road America 16 - Toronto 17 - Milwaukee 18 - Detroit 19 - MIS 20 - Charlotte - the Roval, could be at a different time. 21 - Final race - Darlington!
Would love indycar to have a go at what I would call hybrid tracks! … classic example would be Cleveland airport again … a roval … Bristol dirt track …… and anything that could be a close to a modern version off the 90s Rio oval that drove like a road course!
I think an airport track would be a good idea in terms of what those tracks have meant in Indycar's history. The roval is an interesting idea. Bristol Dirt Track is more than likely impossible (although I'm sure would be cool to see). Rio I guess is what we would call a flat oval. I think that to would be interesting. However, I fear that the way the aero wash is with these cars, that it would be really tricky to overtake, unless the series used different tire compounds for the race.
I agree with you! I also hate that Detroit moved off the Belle Isle circuit. I really liked that configuration. It’s a shame because it wasn’t that long ago that Detroit was a double header on that course. I wouldn’t mind seeing a return to MIS and maybe adding races at the Daytona and Charlotte road course configurations I also really miss the old Cleveland Burke Lakefront airport track.
Well theres not many more tracks they can go to at the moment either they won't run many nascar short tracks, they defs don't want to run at any of nascars big tracks either so they don't get another 2011 situation again and then really there aren't many roadcourses left on the schedule to run at since they nearly run on all the roadcourses already also they should try running at the gold coast again
Richmond might be back in the conversation for a race date. Milwaukee potentially as well. The Gold Coast is something we can fantasise. Would it be fantastic if it did return? Absolutely.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 " The Gold Coast is something we can fantasise." The Adelaide street circuit event organisers might be looking for something more exotic than domestic touring cars, but cheaper than Formula One's sanctioning fee. 😉 Could be a good place to hold a season finale!
I think the rumours about IndyCar doing a European race would help IndyCar gain viewers in Europe and also give IndyCar a new track. I also think IndyCar another race outside of the US would help, either Mexico or Brazil.
3:53 I can add some insight to why that is That race is on the opening day of the Premier League season NBC does usually carry the Saturday late game with this being first week of the season and NBC has only so much time for coverage on the network Unfortunately someone has to lose out and IndyCar has to bite the bullet
They have some great iconic races and tracks that should always be there, like Long Beach, Road America, Mid Ohio etc. that they should keep at all costs. But I do agree that the whole thing seems very stagnant. Why the lack of development on cars and engines? Why no international races? If the marketing is up to scratch and the series adds some more modern engineering, they could add some races in Australia, East Asia (Japan, Korea) and perhaps Europe too. They had great success with some of these races in the past, but they seem to only want to focus on the american market, even when they have a lot of international drivers and fans. The series definately needs a money injection and some fresh ideas. Perhaps they could invest in trying to get better tv coverage internationally as well, perhaps add some free races on youtube. Attracting new fans and international sponsors could be a strategy for growth.
What they need to do is fix the schedule and add to it, like not having a few months in between races, like have a summer break like F1 and then continue. sure you can be like nascar and race Iowa and Indy Gp twice but at least add some more tracks. There’s plenty to race on in the US, like Watkins Glen, Sonoma, COTA, and others that would provide better racing, and also others in Canada like Montreal. The street tracks just don’t provide good racing and the only one that’s entertaining to me personally is Nashville, which is the Monaco of Indy car in terms of space to race on which is why it’s a crash fest every time.
I think the series could certainly expand the circuits that it uses. For me, it needs to be more ovals. It's too heavily biased towards the road and street courses and personally adding a few more ovals, would increase the variety.
I mean I would love to see that as a combination. Would make even more sense logistically given that it's for two rounds in the same location. Plus it's two different tracks types. Although, that would mean shipping over road and oval spec aero kits which would potentially cause headaches.
The oval sadly no longer has the structural integrity in order to hold a race following the 2011 earthquake. However, the road course had good racing when they ran it.
Which venues would you suggest they add? In my opinion, they should add Michigan, Charlotte Roval paired with NASCAR, and Phoenix for some safe improvements to the schedule. I would take a risk and go to Bathurst and pair it with another race in Australia or New Zealand.
I personally love Indy car!!! I have watched the Indy 500 for years but last year was the first time I have watched the full season!! It does need some changing sadly. I really enjoy it but the Calendar needs some alterations. I would love to see some more ovals and a different variety of tracks!! Nashville is a dumpster fire that just needs to go. There are so many better options out there!! As somebody that lives in the UK and can only see it on sky sports ( it’s behind a paywall but at least they show every race including Indy next) I would really like to see some improvements to it but not sure what other than changing the tracks around!,,
Who wants to watch Roger Penske win Roger Penske's championship at Roger Penske's own track, with Roger Penske's car, Roger Penske's team, driven Roger Penske's driver sponsored by the same company who sponsors Roger Penske's series??? I think I see a problem here....
The things is Penske was rumoured wanted IndyCar at middle east (if i was correct yas marina circuit) but that rumour went down very quickly like the hype of the new engine that wasn't going to come. Schedule alignment was a big issues, particularly lacking oval races and high end tilkedrome circuit. Some IndyCar would outrage when i say that, but american racing roots is oval and International audience wouldn't simply care for races on tracks that they simply didn't know. Alienating from both is a huge mistake, street tracks only pleased the local (even that there were protest concerning noise and air pollution) while tracks like Thermal is who is it for again? Sure Yas Marina or Jeddah was also for rich people, but they never made it exclusively for them, as some footage of the fans during F1 races said otherwise.
Indy uses Indy 3 times for 1 reason. Who owns both the track and series? Penkse. It's a "NASCRAP" move and I don't agree with it. I think the Indy GP circuit is fantastic, and I like it on the calendar, but it could be replaced with one of the many other tracks in North America. I think a race in Mexico would benefit them well as you'd likely gain fans down there (if F1 can do it, Indy can do it no problem) and would be a great filler race for the one month gap. Sebring would be interesting, but the track may be to bumpy for Indycar. They could even come to NCM in Bowling green Ky (corvette museum track) and put on a solid show. But this would require a big investment into the facility from GM as building a proper garage area for the teams, and a place for all the haulers. As well a few grand stands. But it's an awesome track.
I think that's where a greater social media presence would help, so people remember about this series. You can't just rely on people remembering that Indycar exists. Hopefully, the new promotion team can do a good job at doing that.
I don't know much about Indycar. It's, like all American racing series, not a thing in my country. I watched a few non-oval races on youtube and i must say it's not half bad.
The only way I defend date equity is see F1, I'd rather do the Indycar schedule way than take dirty money from like Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc. while they do their best 90s NASCAR impression getting rid of the historical places
I see where you're coming from. For me though, I still feel as though Indycar could at least swap the second Indy GP race with another venue. Whether that's a race in the US on another road/street course or oval (for me preferably oval), or a race in Mexico, I think it's important for the series to try and find another venue as a replacement for that race.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 Oh I wasn't disagreeing with the point in principle I actually think Indycar does need to do something because I personally rather watch that than F1 these days (which is a genuine shame but still) just I know theres a balance, leaving Watkins Glen sticks out like a sore thumb. I'd say maybe keep a rotation of tracks i.e. take the 2023 calendar but have on rotation places like the aforementioned Watkins Glen, Cleveland (was rumoured a few years ago), Surfers Paradise if possible (probably not)
@@jordza2k11 Don't worry I didn't think you were disagreeing with me (albeit I don't mind if you or anyone for that matter have or haven't got the same opinion as me), I was just saying that I could see where you were coming from. I like the idea of a rotation of tracks.
I have to say, I personally think the IndyCar broadcasts are awful and need significant improvement. They're miles behind the likes of F1 and MotoGP, lack of graphics, limited onboard cameras, the graphics that they do have feel woefully outdated and for international viewers I'd be willing to bet about 40% of the race lacks commentary from the NBC advert break. I feel like the lack of an official game also hurts the series quite a bit, younger fans are what you want and it seems F1 has perfectly appealed to them.
I agree with the broadcast side of it from a graphics standpoint. They do feel quite outdated and to me they need a freshen up. In the UK they have a local team which fill in for when the US team have ad breaks. It's usually Tom Gaymor, who in my opinion does a fantastic job. I don't know what it's like for the rest of the world. For me Leigh Diffey, James Hinchcliffe and Townsend Bell do a great job. I think the pit reporters are pretty good as well. I also think the video game is an important addition that will help Indycar for sure.
I think they should get rid of one of the Indy road course races and move it to Richmond. We need more oval track races especially for us older fans who grew up on Indy type cars racing only ovals. Another track that should be brought back is Milwaukie.
IndyCar won’t take any initiative… they turned their back on Pocono after some bad wrecks which could’ve been prevented by better officiating. But somehow Texas gets a race every year despite being an absolute deadzone for racing fans. They refuse to race at Michigan, because they’re racing in Detroit… yet they have 3 events at IMS.
I agree in that the schedule has to have more variety. Oval wise their just isn't enough. The race at Texas this year was better, they desperately need to get more spectators to the race though, otherwise it's pretty pointless continuing to host it there. The crowds looked better when it was a night event. Not amazing but better. Hopefully, the race at Texas next year is just as good and that the people who saw the 2022 event, will come to the race. I think Michigan would be cool to see for sure.
Pocono has a unique layout and the series was starting to build a decent fanbase there, but the track needs to update their catchfences. Wickens' injuries wouldn't be as severe as they were if the track had the same fencing as tracks like IMS, and Fontana (Mike Conway and Mikhail Aleshin had similar crashes on those tracks, but eventually were able to fully recover from their injuries).
Speaking as a NASCAR fan, some of that is going to be the fact that several of the ovals that Indycar races on were designed for the much heavier stock cars that we bring to the track.
@@blueredlover1060 I can definitely see the point you're making. I think the Indycar's though have shown that the cars can race really well on the ovals. Sure it's harder to pass with the lower downforce package, but the races with the Superspeedway package have gotten better.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 I was referring to the catch fences. Pocono was designed with the slower and heavier stock cars in mind, so the shorter fences are at least in part because of that.
I fully agree with you. IndyCar has in my opinion the best racing in the world but a lack of promotion and risk taking is stifling growth. IndyCar needs to do things that get motorsports journalists talking. Make people go "Wow, IndyCar is doing what now? I gotta check that out!"
Indycar has a fantastic product and I agree that they need to do more social media wise on promoting the series. Sky Sports does a good job at promoting the series in the UK. The viewing figures for this years Indy 500 averaged 231,000 in the UK, which is fantastic.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 the racing is ok IMO. But the American Broadcasts are terrible with so many ads it makes following a race difficult. The fact that after 2 laps every race is a "fuel mileage" race really hurts it.
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And you see, that might be the issue unto itself... how many races are just in the US alone? I mean their has to be some places in South America at least that would welcome Indy. I know that here in Toronto, Indy is something of an annoyance generally which has been growing over the years and their will come a point where something (and COVID tired, Customs was difficult at the time of the perk) or someone (likely City Council) will rip that from Indy.
I remember when IndyCar used to race in mexico, japan and a one off in Brazil and England. There are more international drivers in the series than ever before shocking the series is not racing abroad.
I would certainly be happy if Indycar did race abroad. Although, I think they may need to make sure they get the core market in the US fully on side before thinking of international expansion. I don't see why they couldn't race in Mexico though. A charismatic, media friendly and obviously incredibly talented driver in Pato O'Ward and certainly at least one track which would be able to host an event. I imagine the reason it isn't on the schedule yet is down to financial and logistical impacts.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 from what i read it had to do with keeping the series cost down. For Mexico there really isn't a logical reason why. As they have had top drivers in IndyCar long before Patto.
@@terenceramroop Especially, considering how Pato has an aim of reaching F1, if I was an Indycar boss, I would go to Mexico now, whilst you have a superstar from that country in your series.
and australia!
Japan maybe Twin Ring motegi
Australia/New Zealand not which track would work best
Maybe a race in Europe
Phoenix oval
Milwaukee mile
Watkins glen
Have two races in Canada
As primarily a NASCAR fan, I've just dipped my toes in Indycar (and open-wheel racing in general) this year and I'm loving it. I'd personally want to see more ovals and races in general on the schedule. I also have to wonder if there is any consideration on making the road-course spec cars faster and more on the line of F1 or F2 at least. While Indycar is based in the US and is a lot more accessable here, many in the US are getting turned on to F1 and I have to wonder how many people would perfer to tune in there just because the racing is more on the cutting edge of technology.
I think more races would definitely help. 20 is a good figure I would say. More ovals for a definite, I think the balance in terms of race tracks is too heavily swayed in the direction of the road spec races. I believe current Indycar's would in theory be about a second or two faster than a Formula 2 car (albeit no direct comparison is possible so that is a guess). I think the ground breaking performance that F1 has is a huge draw for new fans and is one that Indycar and indeed other racing categories will struggle to compare with. You raise a number of good points here. I hope you continue to enjoy Indycar as someone who's watched lots of NASCAR though.
go watch some of the old IRL races on youtube it was some of the best oval races
Hopefully you continue to follow Indy and it continues to keep your interest. I think one of the biggest draws to Indy is the competition. It's almost anyones game at some points. I also think another thing that keeps Indy so enjoyable is the marshalling, or lack their of in some cases. They let them race, but when they see something that should have been avoided, they call it. And they are fair about the calls to. It's nothing is as bad as F1 or NASCAR with the favoritism or money trumps rules. Between Indy and IMSA you probably have the most consistent racing products out there. But for whatever reason, they just don't pull in big numbers. I think people just don't know how to actually experience road course racing and such. More so Endurance races. If you sit in the same spot all race, yeah it's going to be boring. You have to get out and walk around, walk around the pits, change sections, talk to fans, even visit the little car shows they often have tagged along with them. All to the background noises of cars racing around you.
I’ve watched like a few IndyCar races between 2010-2011, my first Indy 500 was 2011, but I officially got into the sport in 2012 religiously.
I LOVE IndyCar! I’m obsessed and addicted to the sport. It’s my #1 favorite Motorsports series.
However, it’s unfortunate that they still have some problems. The schedule is still crap due to having way way WAY too many road courses and less ovals. The racing product is of course beautiful! But I wish we had more ovals (even a 50/50 on ovals and circuits on the schedule) to see the beauty of the sport.
Their marketing is still lackluster. They did put in some efforts on social media, but it’s still not big enough. They put on a lot of effort promoting the Indy 500, which is fair since that’s their biggest race, but I wish the promotion of the sport in general was like the Indy 500 to have fans tune in.
I personally don’t mind Spec cars because I just love racing, but it would be awesome to see another chassis compete against the Dallara Universal Kit just like the Offenhauser’s, the Reynard’s, the Lola’s, and the Panoz’s for example. Something like that.
IndyCar is doing way better now, like this is their golden era, different comparing to 90s CART. The car count is doing well, we got more drivers getting into the sport, more teams. The State of IndyCar is fantastic! But they’re not taking advantage of it to grow the sport more. I really hope they take advantage of how great the sport is because this is their chance!
I have very similar opinions to you. I believe Indycar is a series that has so many positive aspects about it, yet has the potential to be something even better. It's just about making sure that the potential is unlocked as much as possible.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 yep, they have a chance to grow again! I don’t expect it to be 90s CART level of popularity, but popular on their own
Offenhauser never made a chassis. They were an engine manufacturer
@@grooviefan thanks for the correction
a huge problem with Indycar is their market and not having a race anywhere near the southeast or New England, massive population centers going another year without IndyCar, I have been trying to see a race without driving 500+ miles for 3 years, and it's getting disheartening when I can go to 4 NASCAR races, 2 IMSA races, 2 NHRA races, 6 WoO/ASCoC tracks, SRX, SpeedTour, MotoAmerica, and even F1 along with, most forms of grassroots short track racing less than 4 hours away but somehow still no IndyCar
Location definitely matters, particularly in making sure that you extend the width and breadth of the country you're racing in as much as possible, just so you can get as many different people as possible to these races, whilst not having to travel several hours to a location.
Here in Brazil I watch Indycar Series since 2004 when Tony Kanaan wins the IRL championship, I watch for being something completely different from what F1 are, the race on Indy is more natural, without DRS, even with the push to pass don't cause some dependence in races, since 2018 the car bring a even better race for the competition, but if I have to guess? The marketing thing has to receive a better attention and funds. Take the Mid-Ohio races as a example, a lot of crowd there, Toronto, St Petersburg, Long Beach, also known for the public presence in the races, and I don't need to talk of Indy 500. If they marketing every race just like Indy biggest race, they will have a great product on their hands.
I agree in that certainly from a social media perspective, they need to do more in terms of marketing and getting the series out into the media verse more than they're currently doing. I hope that the new marketing promotions at Indycar can help get the series more exposure as well. Along with getting a budget that they'll be able to work with.
Absolutely agree! INDYCAR is a fantastic product but needs a bit of a shake up. Indy GP whilst good we don’t need it twice a season, I think we need circuits like Cleveland airport back again, and yes more oval races are needed although I don’t think we’ll ever see pack racing after vegas 2011.
I think the season needs to stretch a bit longer too as finishing off in September as in previous seasons is far too early. Here’s hoping Penske spices things up!!!
One Indy GP race is enough I feel. Cleveland would be great to see back. More ovals for definite. For me it doesn't need to be pack racing. Maybe something closer to that than what the current Superspeedway package brings but certainly not Fontana 2015 levels. That's one of my favourite ever races, but not something we need every time we go to a big oval. I think the season should end later. I don't think that'll happen though given that's when the NFL starts.
Seeing some comments I think the majority wants more oval racing. In my opinion, the schedule should be of 20 races, with 6 to 10 oval races, that's what made me fall in love with IndyCar more than 10 years ago. Nowadays the cars are safer, and the tracks are also safer, I don't see any reason to not give a try to Fontana for example. The last race in 2015 was one of the greatest I've ever seen, since then and due to some incidents in Pocono the oval racing has been dying.
I think a 20 race schedule would be a sweet spot for Indycar. I don't think 16/17 events is quite enough.
I totally agree. And what mystifies me most is that there are so many tracks in the US that are great and available and beyond that there are blindingly obvious markets to move into either at all or increase their involvement (Brazil, Mexico, Canada) without too much risk and Indycar just... doesn't
I don't see why races in Mexico or more in Canada couldn't work. I wouldn't imagine it's much harder logistically.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 because the issue isn't logistics, lol
Nothing like as good as CART used to be. The real Superspeedways and short ovals should be 70% of the races. It's just another road racing series now, and lacks it's true American feel.
Time to go back to the good old days. Get rid of the spec chassis. Get rid of engine leases. Hell. The healthiest thing for the series would probably be 410 sprint car engines, and open dev on the IR18 starting 2024. Then hopefully new cars entirely after that. Maybe bump day would mean something if there were more than 70 tubs, and 36 engines.
There are so many perfectly good tracks for Indycar in South America and Europe, I really don’t understand why they wouldn’t even consider it. With the rise of F1 in the last years, the European interest in Indycar has also risen. I think (one off) races on motorsport crazy tracks like Mexico City, Monza, Silverstone, Zandvoort and Sao Paolo would would great
I think races in countries outside of North America would be great. I just think it's rather unlikely to happen.
Irl will never be the series that CART was.
Those days will be very difficult to replicate. However, I definitely see a lot more potential in this series to get to a point where it could certainly make a greater mark on the racing landscape than it is now.
I love how their schedule is wannabe-Champ Car
Not even close.
@@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT I thought the merger was supposed to be a good thing! To produce a product better than what Champcar or the Indy Racing League could produce separately! 🙂
@@TassieLorenzo they do produce great racing, but there’s way too many circuits like Champ Car did. That’s one of my gripes from the sport
My biggest complaint (as a fan in the US) is NBC. Sure Peacock lets me watch Indy, IMSA and Sueprcross for only $5 a month but the ads in the middle of races, especially the Indy 500, is just stupid. Half of the crashes and other interesting overtakes for the lead of the Indy 500 happened when everyone in the US was stuck watching Ads. Indy needs their broadcast to be better! Especially compared to IMSA on the same platform where there are no ads, but there are sometimes breaks in commentary (a notable example is during the Rolex 24). The commentary stops, but the racing action is still there to watch, and you also get the pure sound of the cars.
The commentary is also rather boring compared to IMSA. The worst part is that most of the commentators for Indy also commentate for IMSA as well, and seem to enjoy IMSA commentary more.
I also think that Nashville and Toronto are basically the Monaco's of Indycar, not for their popularity or extravagance, but rather that both tracks are terrible for racing. The only way to really pass at either seems to be to dive into the inside and shove the other guy into the wall. The only real reason they are entertaining is the pit stop and tire strategies that shake up the races.
As I'm not from the US, I can't really say what the coverage is like from a US viewer's perspective. However, if you're getting adverts during the race, I can imagine it's pretty demoralising. In the UK, Indycar doesn't have any ad breaks during the whole broadcast. We also have a commentator based in the UK who fills in the gaps that the US broadcaster does. I can't really compare what the NBC IMSA commentary is like from my perspective as the only way to watch IMSA over here is via IMSA TV online and the commentary is via IMSA Radio, who do a great job in my view. I personally quite like Toronto and Nashville. Although, since Toronto was modified in 2016, the racing has seemed to have gotten a little worse. Nashville I can definitely understand also, is not to everyone's taste. However, it's a very unique track and one I wouldn't get rid of, albeit I wouldn't mind if they made some alterations to the layout.
As far as the two Indy GP races go, the only way to get rid of them is if NASCAR moves venues, since I believe that's a TV Network negotiating for it rather than the series in general. Also, the more ovals in Indycar is generally repeated amongst fans, however there is a lack of promoters willing to take a risk on the sport
I agree in that promotors are finding it difficult to want to do an oval race. However, in my opinion in would be in the best interests of the sport to try and add one or two more to the schedule.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 Hell, if I could get one in Richmond, that's a win
@@walkerhound3934 I'd be very happy to see Richmond join the schedule. I'd be happier with a big oval, but any oval would do nicely, especially Richmond.
I would love to see Indy run a double header at Miami doing the oval and road course. Or Charlotte doing the oval then the roval in a Nascar weekend. We don't need two Indy road courses on the schedule, even Daly agrees and his step-dad is the president of the Speedway.
I think that would be quite a cool addition to the schedule.
This might be a dumbass idea, but they should try doing Michigan
Indycar is being smart Penske has seen Indycar/cart/champ car implode. He’s seen nascar go from packed stands to half full stands. Also you couldn’t tell a difference sitting in the stands if the car flying by had a 2.2 or a 2.4 L engine. Look at F1 they spend crazy money and it’s unwatchable. Penske is a Motorsport grom. He loves racing. I hear you thou. I want a 20 race schedule and just one road course Indy race. One double weekend is cool (I went to Iowa).
Double headers for sure can work, Iowa was amazing to watch, just from sitting at home. I also don't doubt that Penske is someone who will be able to get the best out of this series and has also suffered challenges along the way. I just worry from Indycar's perspective that with F1 getting a stranglehold in the US, unless Indycar show a bit more initiative and do more to get the series out into the public's eyes, then F1 will push Indycar into the background further.
I wish they would go to the 2.4 v6, if they have to have a indy gp then there should only be 1 race, they need 1 more race in Canada and at least one race in Mexico, I think COTA would be great to go back too if not go back to the Houston street course that was a nice track.
I agree the Indy GP should be only one race. I think a race in Mexico is an important step in my opinion. I wouldn't mind a race in COTA but I feel that would just infer to any less regular Indycar fans that the sport is too similar to F1.
I've been a fan since arrive 1981. Current Indycar is literally the world's best funded vintage series. Penske only cares about the 500. I said that when he bought this thing, that's not going to change and he hasn't proven me wrong.
I can see why Penske would prioritise the 500. It is the biggest race finance wise for the series. I don't have an issue with that. However, better promotion of the rest of the Championship is really important in my opinion, because many casual viewers don't know that the Indycar Championship doesn't just consist of the Indy 500 and that the series has several other great locations where this Championship can shine.
What we really need is more oval tracks. I remember back years ago when all races were on ovals and the racing was great.
@@DFSJR1203 "I remember back years ago when all races were on ovals" Do you mean when the IRL (with an all-oval schedule) was competing with CART/Champcar?! Where Champcar conversely went all road-course in '07 with the Panoz-Cosworth (where mostly or all road courses as Champcar had is my preference TBH)? Or do you mean the USAC championship being all-oval up to '78, until the CART championship came along and added Mosport and Watkins Glen, etc from '79 and then picked up Long Beach from F1 in '84 etc? 🙂
As long as they never get rid of Long Beach I’ll still watch the series haha but I def agree there needs to be new chassis and possibly new regs but something has got to change with IndyCar
It hasn't been the same since they eliminated most of the ovals and yes the Dan Wheldon incident was incredibly tragic and wickens getting paralyzed but the aeroscreens have done wonders for safety. I would at least like to see them go back to more ovals. They don't have to be big speedways. Richmond, new Hampshire, Milwaukee mile hell imagine Indycars on the new north wilkesboro in the future. The time has come to bring back more ovals!
It hurts just getting into indy racing and the Milwaukee Mile doesn't get races anymore. I shoulda just went to 1
Milwaukee might have a chance at returning to the schedule if the rumours are anything to go by.
As a European fan i think a race in Europe would really stir things up, just the one a year could really bring new fans in and well... European tracks are much different to those in the US so it'll be an interesting comparison
I would enjoy Indycar's racing in Europe. Although, I think it's rather unlikely.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 its highly unlikely unfortunately, though it would would a small thing that could spice things up a little bit. They used to race in Japan so they could go there too maybe if not Europe. But Motegi oval is not usable to my knowledge
@@DankBoyy00 It's not impossible and I think some venues would work nicely in Europe for Indycar. I believe the Motegi oval is now not possible to use at the moment.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 we can only dream about it... And Sim race
@@DankBoyy00 Exactly 🤣.
I just felt that 3rd engine manufacturer wasn't that important, some races i don't think is necessary to be on the calendar(Texas, Indy GP2, Nashville). I rather want to see Indycar expand to other country, no need to be like CART or Champ Car style of calendar (which we know what is happen to both series). Try to expand to Canada, Mexico, Brazil and even Argentina, and put oval,road course and race track equally like maybe up to 19-21 races in a year IMO.
I think that number of races per year is an ideal amount. Expansion outside of America I feel is important, particularly in other North American or South American countries. Although, I think they need to try and build up a greater home audience in the US before trying to expand elsewhere. I don't see why a Mexican race in particular couldn't work though. Maybe it's for financial or logistical reasons. However, with Pato O'Ward setting his sights on a potential F1 future, I think now would be a great time to capitalise on the Mexican market.
I was the trophy maker for Vancouver / Toronto 99/03 . Back in the days of V8 turbo engines with Penske , Lola , Reynard , Eagle . With Goodyear and Firestone . I love Indy Car , BUT we need more than one car . I want my race in Vancouver back ........ NOW , NOW , NOW !!
As a WNY'er, was so excited IndyCar was coming back to Watkins Glen. Then like 2 Years later they killed it. Never got to watch them race there...
I think a race at Watkins Glen would be great. Although, spectator numbers were the issue for the 2017 race, hence the event's cancellation, so if they do go back for another attempt, it'll have to be well supported.
Best on-track product with the worst marketing and management.
I wouldn't say the marketing was woeful, but it definitely could be better in my opinion. Hopefully, the new marketing team will make a difference.
Maybe the series should start taking some risks. As for my personal perfect list of tracks (or schedule), it looks like this:
1st race should be on Homestead. It would be a crazy idea to have the opener of IndyCar and the closer of NASCAR on the very same oval! I'd be down for it!
2 - St. Petersburg, maybe make it on the day before Superbowl?
3 - Long Beach - I don't want 2 street circuits in a row, but it might be necessary.
4 - Laguna Seca.
2 weeks break for the 1st intercontinental leg.
5 - Adelaide - lots of Aussies and New Zealanders race in Indy, thus a race down under might be a good idea.
6 - Fuji - why wouldn't Honda try and make a race there? Suzuka would be tough for these cars, thus I say Fuji.
2 weeks break to go back to the US.
7. Indy GP
8. Indy 500
1 week break for the second intercontinental leg.
9. Brands Hatch
10. Lausitzring - but it has a sad reputation, I watched Zanardi's crash.
11. Hungaroring or Jerez
I wanna see Baku or Singapore, but that is very unlikely to happen. F1 might not aggree.
1 week break to go back to America.
12 - Interlagos
13 - Hermanos Rodriguez
14 - Gateway
15 - Road America
16 - Toronto
17 - Milwaukee
18 - Detroit
19 - MIS
20 - Charlotte - the Roval, could be at a different time.
21 - Final race - Darlington!
Would love indycar to have a go at what I would call hybrid tracks! … classic example would be Cleveland airport again … a roval … Bristol dirt track …… and anything that could be a close to a modern version off the 90s Rio oval that drove like a road course!
I think an airport track would be a good idea in terms of what those tracks have meant in Indycar's history. The roval is an interesting idea. Bristol Dirt Track is more than likely impossible (although I'm sure would be cool to see). Rio I guess is what we would call a flat oval. I think that to would be interesting. However, I fear that the way the aero wash is with these cars, that it would be really tricky to overtake, unless the series used different tire compounds for the race.
I agree with you! I also hate that Detroit moved off the Belle Isle circuit. I really liked that configuration. It’s a shame because it wasn’t that long ago that Detroit was a double header on that course.
I wouldn’t mind seeing a return to MIS and maybe adding races at the Daytona and Charlotte road course configurations
I also really miss the old Cleveland Burke Lakefront airport track.
I think a race at Michigan would be great. However, I just can't see it realistically happening.
Daytona would never pass the safety standards. Cleveland is a sure winner. Other than that Going overseas is where the money is
Well theres not many more tracks they can go to at the moment either they won't run many nascar short tracks, they defs don't want to run at any of nascars big tracks either so they don't get another 2011 situation again and then really there aren't many roadcourses left on the schedule to run at since they nearly run on all the roadcourses already also they should try running at the gold coast again
Richmond might be back in the conversation for a race date. Milwaukee potentially as well. The Gold Coast is something we can fantasise. Would it be fantastic if it did return? Absolutely.
We need Richmond and Milwaukee back on the schedule.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 " The Gold Coast is something we can fantasise." The Adelaide street circuit event organisers might be looking for something more exotic than domestic touring cars, but cheaper than Formula One's sanctioning fee. 😉 Could be a good place to hold a season finale!
@@TassieLorenzo It may not be very likely but I would definitely be up for watching that one.
I think the rumours about IndyCar doing a European race would help IndyCar gain viewers in Europe and also give IndyCar a new track. I also think IndyCar another race outside of the US would help, either Mexico or Brazil.
I think a race in Europe would be cool. However, I think it's an unrealistic thing that'll happen.
3:53 I can add some insight to why that is
That race is on the opening day of the Premier League season NBC does usually carry the Saturday late game with this being first week of the season and NBC has only so much time for coverage on the network
Unfortunately someone has to lose out and IndyCar has to bite the bullet
Ah ok, that makes more sense now, thanks for mentioning.
Need sexier more power full , lighter and faster cars . Races on track outside the us and Canada. And more races and longer season.
Wouldn't mind races in other countries, especially in Europe. Although, I think that's quite unlikely.
They have some great iconic races and tracks that should always be there, like Long Beach, Road America, Mid Ohio etc. that they should keep at all costs. But I do agree that the whole thing seems very stagnant. Why the lack of development on cars and engines? Why no international races?
If the marketing is up to scratch and the series adds some more modern engineering, they could add some races in Australia, East Asia (Japan, Korea) and perhaps Europe too. They had great success with some of these races in the past, but they seem to only want to focus on the american market, even when they have a lot of international drivers and fans. The series definately needs a money injection and some fresh ideas.
Perhaps they could invest in trying to get better tv coverage internationally as well, perhaps add some free races on youtube. Attracting new fans and international sponsors could be a strategy for growth.
What they need to do is fix the schedule and add to it, like not having a few months in between races, like have a summer break like F1 and then continue. sure you can be like nascar and race Iowa and Indy Gp twice but at least add some more tracks. There’s plenty to race on in the US, like Watkins Glen, Sonoma, COTA, and others that would provide better racing, and also others in Canada like Montreal. The street tracks just don’t provide good racing and the only one that’s entertaining to me personally is Nashville, which is the Monaco of Indy car in terms of space to race on which is why it’s a crash fest every time.
I think the series could certainly expand the circuits that it uses. For me, it needs to be more ovals. It's too heavily biased towards the road and street courses and personally adding a few more ovals, would increase the variety.
I agree but that means they'd be competing with The National felons league. And we'd never have indycar on Television
I always thought that twin ring would be great for indycar. Especially for double headers. one day do the road course the next do the oval
I mean I would love to see that as a combination. Would make even more sense logistically given that it's for two rounds in the same location. Plus it's two different tracks types. Although, that would mean shipping over road and oval spec aero kits which would potentially cause headaches.
The oval sadly no longer has the structural integrity in order to hold a race following the 2011 earthquake. However, the road course had good racing when they ran it.
The road course race was actually pretty good to be fair.
@@josephpenn1115 thats actually really sad
Which venues would you suggest they add? In my opinion, they should add Michigan, Charlotte Roval paired with NASCAR, and Phoenix for some safe improvements to the schedule. I would take a risk and go to Bathurst and pair it with another race in Australia or New Zealand.
I personally love Indy car!!! I have watched the Indy 500 for years but last year was the first time I have watched the full season!! It does need some changing sadly. I really enjoy it but the Calendar needs some alterations. I would love to see some more ovals and a different variety of tracks!! Nashville is a dumpster fire that just needs to go. There are so many better options out there!!
As somebody that lives in the UK and can only see it on sky sports ( it’s behind a paywall but at least they show every race including Indy next) I would really like to see some improvements to it but not sure what other than changing the tracks around!,,
Who wants to watch Roger Penske win Roger Penske's championship at Roger Penske's own track, with Roger Penske's car, Roger Penske's team, driven Roger Penske's driver sponsored by the same company who sponsors Roger Penske's series??? I think I see a problem here....
The things is Penske was rumoured wanted IndyCar at middle east (if i was correct yas marina circuit) but that rumour went down very quickly like the hype of the new engine that wasn't going to come.
Schedule alignment was a big issues, particularly lacking oval races and high end tilkedrome circuit. Some IndyCar would outrage when i say that, but american racing roots is oval and International audience wouldn't simply care for races on tracks that they simply didn't know. Alienating from both is a huge mistake, street tracks only pleased the local (even that there were protest concerning noise and air pollution) while tracks like Thermal is who is it for again?
Sure Yas Marina or Jeddah was also for rich people, but they never made it exclusively for them, as some footage of the fans during F1 races said otherwise.
I would love to see Indy car return to Michigan,Dover Delaware, Charlotte motor speedway, and Richmond VA.
Indy uses Indy 3 times for 1 reason. Who owns both the track and series? Penkse. It's a "NASCRAP" move and I don't agree with it. I think the Indy GP circuit is fantastic, and I like it on the calendar, but it could be replaced with one of the many other tracks in North America. I think a race in Mexico would benefit them well as you'd likely gain fans down there (if F1 can do it, Indy can do it no problem) and would be a great filler race for the one month gap. Sebring would be interesting, but the track may be to bumpy for Indycar. They could even come to NCM in Bowling green Ky (corvette museum track) and put on a solid show. But this would require a big investment into the facility from GM as building a proper garage area for the teams, and a place for all the haulers. As well a few grand stands. But it's an awesome track.
Indy car needs to hold races overseas again and yes somehow attract other engine manufacturers like ford and Toyota
huge F1 fan but i struggle to watch indy car manly cause i forget about it
I think that's where a greater social media presence would help, so people remember about this series. You can't just rely on people remembering that Indycar exists. Hopefully, the new promotion team can do a good job at doing that.
I don't know much about Indycar. It's, like all American racing series, not a thing in my country.
I watched a few non-oval races on youtube and i must say it's not half bad.
I would say that if their's any way you can watch Indycar, I would certainly recommend it. It's not flawless, however, for me it is a great watch.
The NOLA track is trying to get back on with Indy!
The only way I defend date equity is see F1, I'd rather do the Indycar schedule way than take dirty money from like Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc. while they do their best 90s NASCAR impression getting rid of the historical places
I see where you're coming from. For me though, I still feel as though Indycar could at least swap the second Indy GP race with another venue. Whether that's a race in the US on another road/street course or oval (for me preferably oval), or a race in Mexico, I think it's important for the series to try and find another venue as a replacement for that race.
@@tydyeracinggaming4742 Oh I wasn't disagreeing with the point in principle I actually think Indycar does need to do something because I personally rather watch that than F1 these days (which is a genuine shame but still) just I know theres a balance, leaving Watkins Glen sticks out like a sore thumb. I'd say maybe keep a rotation of tracks i.e. take the 2023 calendar but have on rotation places like the aforementioned Watkins Glen, Cleveland (was rumoured a few years ago), Surfers Paradise if possible (probably not)
@@jordza2k11 Don't worry I didn't think you were disagreeing with me (albeit I don't mind if you or anyone for that matter have or haven't got the same opinion as me), I was just saying that I could see where you were coming from. I like the idea of a rotation of tracks.
Why did they drop COTA?
I don't know for sure, although crowd numbers were a factor if my memory serves me correctly.
i wish they had more ovals on the schedule
there are 2 races with the actual oval kit and not an oval chassis with a road course aero kit with one less element per wing
and i wish that the racing was 2015-17 esque, minus the unsafety
I definitely agree on more ovals being on the schedule. Too many road/street courses compared to ovals in my opinion.
Personally I'm glad to see them go back to Downtown Detroit
I have to say, I personally think the IndyCar broadcasts are awful and need significant improvement.
They're miles behind the likes of F1 and MotoGP, lack of graphics, limited onboard cameras, the graphics that they do have feel woefully outdated and for international viewers I'd be willing to bet about 40% of the race lacks commentary from the NBC advert break.
I feel like the lack of an official game also hurts the series quite a bit, younger fans are what you want and it seems F1 has perfectly appealed to them.
I agree with the broadcast side of it from a graphics standpoint. They do feel quite outdated and to me they need a freshen up. In the UK they have a local team which fill in for when the US team have ad breaks. It's usually Tom Gaymor, who in my opinion does a fantastic job. I don't know what it's like for the rest of the world. For me Leigh Diffey, James Hinchcliffe and Townsend Bell do a great job. I think the pit reporters are pretty good as well. I also think the video game is an important addition that will help Indycar for sure.
I think they should get rid of one of the Indy road course races and move it to Richmond. We need more oval track races especially for us older fans who grew up on Indy type cars racing only ovals. Another track that should be brought back is Milwaukie.
That would be an instant improvement for me. Richmond or Milwaukee would be great additions.
Teo words: MORE OVALS
Get rid of one of the Indy RC races and add Ozarks
Indycar is just getting stale at this point. Its gone so far downhill
need more ovals, 500 mile tracks
"I was 'encapsulated'...." Really?