Hi can I ask how tall you are and what your inside leg is. I am looking to get one but no one near me has or can get a demo. I’m 5”11 with a 32 inside leg so was looking at the large, but it’s very long. Much longer than a large Bronson for example which I currently ride. How did you find the large frame. Thanks Colin.
Also interested in this, I am 6ft with a 34 inside leg. Stuck between a large and XL. The large is 50mm longer and the XL 70mm longer than my current zesty.. Hopefully you can advise on how you felt the sizing was.. cheers
@@greg1528 Greg I bought the large and it’s plenty roomy. I’m about the same as you leg and height wise. I run it with a 35mm stem and a 170 dropper. I got it with the cane creek shock upgrade and it’s just perfect. Bike handles so much better than my old Bronson and with the extra length is so stable. You can really whip it about too. I’ve been riding it all winter and I’ve been impressed. Got it I’m Matt Cyan blue too which is lush. One thing I did have to upgrade was my bike carrier. The extra length of the wheelbase means it’s almost too long for some older racks.
@@ColinP46 thanks for the info Colin, I think the large would be okay for me also! Enjoy the new rig! I have the new Thule pro ride 598, if it doesn’t fit that then I can put it in the van👍🏼
@@greg1528 No worries. The 598 should be fine. What surprised me was it being a longer rig than my mates new mixed wheel Bronson in large. Even with the extra inches on the 29er front end my alpine is longer. Demo one of you can.
I don't normally like lots of random graphics on my bikes but I am digging the geo-splatter effect. Do you know if these are the new standard for the range or is it just a one off for this launch edition colour-way? I still think that is too much travel for 90% of people, mind you. As an Orange Four owner I'd go with the Five Evo all day long. It's more fun being under biked than over biked.
I (Andi) love the Four it was a bike I wish I had bought. The Five Evo is a really good modern update on the classic Four and I enjoyed that a lot too. I suppose it all depends where you live and usually ride. In the Peaks either Evo would be great day to day, but if your trails aren't as chunky then the Five Evo might make more sense and it can still handle really tough stuff.
Worry less about reach and more about top tube length. As bikes get slacker at the front and steeper at the seat tube the reach can be quite long without increasing the overall TT length by much or at all.
Modern bikes are designed with dropper seat posts in mind. The idea being when you get to that steep decent you want the bike stretched out and that front wheel further out in front of you. That way you don't go ass over elbows and the bike doesn't turn into a bucking bronco over root and rock gardens at speed. Also gravity junkies aren't known for their love of climbing and interval work. Steep seat angles make that part more palatable for them. So, for many this design philosophy is a win win.
@@fiatfixie4344 so why are most brands downhill bikes shorter in reach than their trail/enduro bikes? Look at the bikes the current top two enduro guys are riding.
@@singletrack reach, with steeper seat tube and slacker headtube, gets shorter not longer. As it gets shorter you have to use longer top tube to compensate. So how exactly do one must worry more about top tube if it doesn't change at all as you state? Thank you for your response. oh forget it, i saw what you mean. Thanks for the insight
I have no clue how that squiggly and wrinkled piece of metal that are almost wrapped around the lower part of the seat tube got through quality control. It looks terrible. Like what the hell...
Orange are fantastic bikes and they have mastered the single pivot design .
I have the stage 6 factory, great company. Great bike. Hand-built in Halifax.
Nice one... I've got a orange alpine evo 2024....good bike. 👍 Thanks
This is my perfect bike, would love this, new bike soon, i'll be considering this for sure 👍
Great review 👍
I've never considered Orange before but this bike I'd own.
I would own this (Andi Singletrack)
Looks great
That's the best looking bike to date and the best colour .great job 🍊
We agree!
dartmoor bikes also are underrated single pivot full sus frames
Hi can I ask how tall you are and what your inside leg is. I am looking to get one but no one near me has or can get a demo. I’m 5”11 with a 32 inside leg so was looking at the large, but it’s very long. Much longer than a large Bronson for example which I currently ride. How did you find the large frame. Thanks Colin.
Also interested in this, I am 6ft with a 34 inside leg. Stuck between a large and XL.
The large is 50mm longer and the XL 70mm longer than my current zesty..
Hopefully you can advise on how you felt the sizing was.. cheers
@@greg1528 Greg I bought the large and it’s plenty roomy. I’m about the same as you leg and height wise. I run it with a 35mm stem and a 170 dropper. I got it with the cane creek shock upgrade and it’s just perfect. Bike handles so much better than my old Bronson and with the extra length is so stable. You can really whip it about too. I’ve been riding it all winter and I’ve been impressed. Got it I’m Matt Cyan blue too which is lush. One thing I did have to upgrade was my bike carrier. The extra length of the wheelbase means it’s almost too long for some older racks.
@@ColinP46 thanks for the info Colin, I think the large would be okay for me also! Enjoy the new rig! I have the new Thule pro ride 598, if it doesn’t fit that then I can put it in the van👍🏼
@@greg1528 No worries. The 598 should be fine. What surprised me was it being a longer rig than my mates new mixed wheel Bronson in large. Even with the extra inches on the 29er front end my alpine is longer. Demo one of you can.
Solid video - lets meet up soon and talk audio and lighting ;-)
ah the 360 gopro doesn't have audio in...
Great video. Have you ridden the switch 6?
No I haven't sorry
I don't normally like lots of random graphics on my bikes but I am digging the geo-splatter effect. Do you know if these are the new standard for the range or is it just a one off for this launch edition colour-way?
I still think that is too much travel for 90% of people, mind you. As an Orange Four owner I'd go with the Five Evo all day long. It's more fun being under biked than over biked.
I (Andi) love the Four it was a bike I wish I had bought. The Five Evo is a really good modern update on the classic Four and I enjoyed that a lot too. I suppose it all depends where you live and usually ride. In the Peaks either Evo would be great day to day, but if your trails aren't as chunky then the Five Evo might make more sense and it can still handle really tough stuff.
Please tell me where that trail is
Sorry 😉
The reach on the size small is 458mm. The reach on the small 327 is 421mm. Why are trail bike sooooo long thease days?
Worry less about reach and more about top tube length. As bikes get slacker at the front and steeper at the seat tube the reach can be quite long without increasing the overall TT length by much or at all.
@@singletrack Seat tube angle is irrelevant when standing up, as is top tube length.
Modern bikes are designed with dropper seat posts in mind. The idea being when you get to that steep decent you want the bike stretched out and that front wheel further out in front of you. That way you don't go ass over elbows and the bike doesn't turn into a bucking bronco over root and rock gardens at speed. Also gravity junkies aren't known for their love of climbing and interval work. Steep seat angles make that part more palatable for them. So, for many this design philosophy is a win win.
@@fiatfixie4344 so why are most brands downhill bikes shorter in reach than their trail/enduro bikes? Look at the bikes the current top two enduro guys are riding.
@@singletrack reach, with steeper seat tube and slacker headtube, gets shorter not longer. As it gets shorter you have to use longer top tube to compensate. So how exactly do one must worry more about top tube if it doesn't change at all as you state? Thank you for your response.
oh forget it, i saw what you mean. Thanks for the insight
Can anyone tell me where that riding is?
Sorry that's top secret 😁😁😉
@@singletrack fair enough :)
Where can I pre order
The Orange website will have details of dealers with stock.
They're already sold out I think mate.
@@superspecky4eyes Check Orange dealers I've seen a few mention they have them
isnt the front to short? to short stack i think
I can't listen to you say Orange even one more time!
Orange Orange Orange Orange Orange Orange Orange Orange Orange Orange Orange;)
I have no clue how that squiggly and wrinkled piece of metal that are almost wrapped around the lower part of the seat tube got through quality control. It looks terrible. Like what the hell...