What you are saying does make sense, and is true in most cases. Now here is where it gets complicated. I have worked for a gas company for about 30 years. Some of the houses I have been in the customer said they have been smelling gas for over 10 years. So in this situation there is no way the homeowner can tell they have a gas leak by their bill because their normal bill is with a gas leak.
@@royrogers4025 (( I know this is long but I really believe it will help you understand a few things )) I really hate when stuff like this happens. All we can do is pray that everyone is ok. Gas company’s all ways say if you smell gas call 911 or your gas provider. Gas company’s constantly monitor the gas pipeline checking for leaks. They have to every 15 months or once every fiscal year. There is 1,000s of miles of pipeline and service lines in the ground. The only way to check for a leak on a customers house is if they call the gas company or a plumber. Then you have these people that flip houses, people that rent houses don’t all ways tell the city what they are doing and they don’t get permits so the gas company doesn’t know about it and therefore the customers house piping doesn’t get checked for leaks. I know I myself when I see a house being flipped or just remodeled, I talk to the people and ask for a permanent. They all most always get mad at me. A gas company’s #1 TOP priority is to PROTECT LIFE, second priority is to protect property. I have turned so many gas services off because of this, safety to the public is my number one priority. These people who flip houses and people who rent house think that they don’t have to follow the rules. If you flip houses or rent houses then that is a business, so therefore that house has to pass a yearly inspection which does include checking the gas services line. The biggest problem is those businesses just don’t see it that way so those houses go for years without being inspected and there has been all kinds of tenants in that rent house and you don’t know what type of person lived there. The best thing I can always tell people is that whenever you buy a new house, bran new or just new to you, or rent one ask for the inspection of the home. DO NOT take the renters or sellers word for it that it was done. Just tell them that you would really like to see it on paper. There will be a city inspection and then there will also be a inspection that the plumber did. Those 2 inspection will be on paper that it was done. Now after you see both inspection and have decided to rent or buy the home, call your natural gas company and tell them you would like your gas turned on and when the Service Technician comes out your gas services line will be checked for the THIRD time. The sad part is none of this will happen if the person flipping the house or renting the house calls for a inspection do to it cost them money. That’s where I, and the company I work for gets really mad because we don’t cut corners. We were left completely out of the loop and that puts peoples lives at stake and then you see stuff like this explosion on the news. I hope this helps explains things and clears a few things up for you. Sorry it was so lengthy. Stay safe and have a great day.
This makes me so angry. The news was so quick to say up front this was intentional. Now the truth comes out. Shame on all that spread speculation that homeowner was at fault.
This happened in Jersey last year and the homeowner just had a new appliance installed incorrectly. Always have a license plumber work on any gas equipment or appliances!
I’ve loved my gas homes. Nothing cooks like a gas stove - ovens? Eh - about the same. But either way the gas company will come out and inspect any new or even old appliances any time you call as many times as you call. Bought an old but very fancy stove years ago and had it rebuilt. Just something about it made me uncomfortable. I called the gas company about 4 times in a week. The last time I called they found a problem but it was in my wall not the stove. I was worried they would think I was just a crazy woman but they never did even after I had it all repaired I called them again and they came out just to check EVERYTHING. Wasn’t even a lot of money that I remember. Maybe cause I made cookies for them everytime too lol
Sorry, but when you keep talking about the pipe that was in the ground you're making yourselves look foolish. It's VERY CLEAR that it could not have been a pipe in the ground, and it had to be something inside the house. See, all the pipe that runs from the street to the house is run underground and then back up out of the ground near the side of the house which is all outside of the house. I'm wondering if the person that was in the house was trying to off themselves because there's no way there was that much gas inside that house without them knowing. You can't really smell a small leak, but a leak that would cause that much gas to be inside a house would cause the house to smell like sulfur, or rotten eggs so that you would know there's a major gas leak.
ok first point an underground pipe can still leak into the house depending on soil permeability and if the basement is not sealed gas can start to build in the basement. just a theory it was raining, ground is wet hindering the gas so it follows the path of least resistance, gas starts filling the basement or sub-floor, a lightning strike close to the house a spark causes the explosion. i am a Pennsylvania state certified HASMAT Command level responder. trust me when i say the new stuff they add to lp gas. makes it almost impossible to not notice even the tiniest leaks. so its ether my theory, or yours with the suicide. the suicide is in reality the most plausible right now.
when I was a kid a house like this went up locally. They were not home. If I recall right they guy was heating and cooling guy and there may of been some debt involved it was a really nice house. It was almost 20 minutes away from us and we heard it when it popped. I drove out there after the news and the sheet/ curtains were in nearby trees 40 ft up. I don't think a faulty in ground pipe was to blame from that photo. That was a leak inside the home IMHO. I'm surprised that no one could smell it and get out there.
@@quinszar That house sat on a concrete slab. Very little to no gas is going to seep through a concrete slab that sits on top of the soil when there aren't any gas lines run under the slab. There wasn't any basement or crawlspace involved. And correct, gas does take the path of least resistance, which would be up out of the ground where the gas line itself exits the ground outside of the boundaries of the house. Ps. What "Certified HAZMAT Command Level Responder" spells HAZMAT with an "S" instead of a "Z"? Just asking for a friend. :) I spent 15 years being "HAZMAT" Certified.
It’s probably Poly for material of the gas line, and the customer owned line begins after the meter not in the ground where the gas company line is. So the illustration is incorrect.
About 25 years ago I had just moved into an apartment in Dallas in the Knox/Henderson area when there was a massive gas explosion that completely destroyed half the building on the other side of the courtyard from my apartment. It blew in my windows and doors. The gas company paid a settlement to each of the tenants.
@@panfry54 Lighter than air yet saturates the dirt. Yes it leaves a hole in the ground. I have seen 2 pipeline explosions, one of them incinerated a bulldozer. And yes there was huge holes in the ground. It also sounded like standing beside a jet engine from about 2 miles away. It took the gas company hours to get the pipeline shut down and purged. Natural gas is super dangerous. I personally would never live in a house that has natural gas piped into it.
New smart meters can detect abnormal excess registration on a gas meter (possibly house line leak) and will send a technician to investigate within 24hrs if the excess usage does not stop. If it’s in the UG line going to the house BEFORE the gas meter, the only way to know if there’s a leak is if someone calls because they smell gas and the responding technician determines it is a leaking service. This leak must’ve been a long steady leak that built up and caught an ignition source OR been a huge leak that built up so fast and blew up on a ignition source. I’m guessing this was an UG leak n the service.
Gas leaking from a pipe break on the high pressure side of the regulator can percolate through the ground and enter the house through pipe (water/sewer) penetrations in the foundation. It may even lose the odorant that makes the "gas" smell. It is still too early to tell.
@@machintelligence The gas doesn't need to percolate through the ground, it can flow along the outside of the pipeline underground and come in the house where the gas line enters. Where I live the gas meter is at the house, but the gas line enters the house above ground, preventing that.
At this point, they cannot dismiss the possibility that all this was a failed suicide attempt....... Apparently, there was only one person in the ground zero house. Granted, anything is possible, but suicide by gas has been down before.
@@machintelligence , you are absolutely correct. I have ran over 10000 emergency calls and yes a couple of houses explosions in my 35-year career. Michael what you need to understand is all house explosions are known as confined space explosions. Without a confined space the gas would just be blowing out into the atmosphere and if ignited it would be like a torch. So of course the house blew up from the inside but how the gas got there still needs to be determined. Investigations like this take time and the documented cause may take months if not a year to come out.
they just did this exact thing at a property I own. They also has to come inside and check all connections and they found a very small leak my side and fixed it. He said they have to check and fix anything on both sides of the meter due to liability issues. As they would catch the blame for anything that might happen when they in the area.
The only thing I can imagine is that they were sleeping when the line broke. You'd think the stench would wake the dead, but some people are very heavy sleepers.
I had a friend that capped off a small wall heater and over time the gas built up in the house. Well they lit a cigarette and it blew him out of the house. He was in shock and ran back in and got his 2 grandkids and wife. Unfortunately he and his wife lost their lives,but the grandkids survived, but had months of skin grafting, etc! So yes, gas could have been building up in that house!
Lots of meters in North Dallas and the area have smelly meters. I’ve been told it’s normal by meter readers but I know better. As a tradesman I always make sure the homeowners are aware.
If you smell gas just call it in. It’s really that simple. Do not wait until you see a Atmos employee 6 months after you started smelling gas. By then, it could be to late. You can call the Fire Department or Atmos Energy. If the FD arrives they can decide if Atmos even need to get involved.
@@tbishop4961 Atmos Energy has not used compression coupling in over 20 years. On the other hand a home owner and a plumber are allowed to use them. This I will never understand.
@@stgraves260 idk who atmos energy is. Oklahoma natural gas is a oneok company. I'm sure the term I used was wrong, but from layman perspective similar device I don't wait for a worker to come back out when that dial is spinning 😂
The regulator is outside the home and if it fails the relief pops off and releases gas in the atmosphere OUTSIDE the home. This house exploded from the inside.
Gas companies are liable for these explosions. There are ways to stop them from happening when gas is routes into a home, they are simply too cheap to install the safety measures. So make them pay huge amounts each time a home explodes. They will start installing the fix when it becomes far too expensive not to !
2015 i unhooked my gas line from the meter from the tank from my house and made them come take all of it... i have a wood burner now and feel 10.000 times safer...
Look up CFR-192 it’s the Code of Federal Registration of gas and oil. It will help you understand. I think that’s what your asking about. Hope it helps.
There are things called "High flow cut-off valves", that do just that. No electronics at all, just mechanical. When my gas company replaced the steel gas lines with plastic in my neighborhood, about 10 years ago, they installed those valves on the service line for each house where it taps into the line in the street. The ones they installed are self resetting.
@@Throughthelurkingglass , they are called excessive flow valves and there is no way we know at this time whether this house had one. They are also set at about 400,000 BTUs of gas flow, so anything under would not trip the valve. Also some utilities have a smart meters that can indicate excessive gas usage for a particular house's estimated usage by the month or time of year where in. But at this time it's too early to tell if this particular house had any of these devices.
@@Throughthelurkingglass , if the NTSB get involved, I can assure you no stone will be unturned. They will use all the tools in their toolbox and investigate all records. I'm not too familiar with the Texas Railroad Commission but I'm sure they probably will do a thorough job as well and maybe even set new requirements.
If the line malfunctioned on the home owner side, the meter would have higher than normal readings.
What you are saying does make sense, and is true in most cases. Now here is where it gets complicated. I have worked for a gas company for about 30 years. Some of the houses I have been in the customer said they have been smelling gas for over 10 years. So in this situation there is no way the homeowner can tell they have a gas leak by their bill because their normal bill is with a gas leak.
@@stgraves260 OK, I see your point. Assume got me again.. By the size of the explosion I assumed the sudden break in a gas line. But I see your point.
@@royrogers4025 (( I know this is long but I really believe it will help you understand a few things )) I really hate when stuff like this happens. All we can do is pray that everyone is ok. Gas company’s all ways say if you smell gas call 911 or your gas provider. Gas company’s constantly monitor the gas pipeline checking for leaks. They have to every 15 months or once every fiscal year. There is 1,000s of miles of pipeline and service lines in the ground. The only way to check for a leak on a customers house is if they call the gas company or a plumber. Then you have these people that flip houses, people that rent houses don’t all ways tell the city what they are doing and they don’t get permits so the gas company doesn’t know about it and therefore the customers house piping doesn’t get checked for leaks. I know I myself when I see a house being flipped or just remodeled, I talk to the people and ask for a permanent. They all most always get mad at me. A gas company’s #1 TOP priority is to PROTECT LIFE, second priority is to protect property. I have turned so many gas services off because of this, safety to the public is my number one priority. These people who flip houses and people who rent house think that they don’t have to follow the rules. If you flip houses or rent houses then that is a business, so therefore that house has to pass a yearly inspection which does include checking the gas services line. The biggest problem is those businesses just don’t see it that way so those houses go for years without being inspected and there has been all kinds of tenants in that rent house and you don’t know what type of person lived there. The best thing I can always tell people is that whenever you buy a new house, bran new or just new to you, or rent one ask for the inspection of the home. DO NOT take the renters or sellers word for it that it was done. Just tell them that you would really like to see it on paper. There will be a city inspection and then there will also be a inspection that the plumber did. Those 2 inspection will be on paper that it was done. Now after you see both inspection and have decided to rent or buy the home, call your natural gas company and tell them you would like your gas turned on and when the Service Technician comes out your gas services line will be checked for the THIRD time. The sad part is none of this will happen if the person flipping the house or renting the house calls for a inspection do to it cost them money. That’s where I, and the company I work for gets really mad because we don’t cut corners. We were left completely out of the loop and that puts peoples lives at stake and then you see stuff like this explosion on the news. I hope this helps explains things and clears a few things up for you. Sorry it was so lengthy. Stay safe and have a great day.
This makes me so angry. The news was so quick to say up front this was intentional. Now the truth comes out. Shame on all that spread speculation that homeowner was at fault.
Kamb , just fake news 😒like every time they are like that must of the time 🤑🤑🤑
With an explosion of that magnitude, how can they tell if a pipe was cracked before the explosion? Did the house have a smart meter?
This happened in Jersey last year and the homeowner just had a new appliance installed incorrectly. Always have a license plumber work on any gas equipment or appliances!
😯😟😟😯😯😯 horrible !!!
Thats why I never have gas or never want to live in buiding with gas .
No thanks , that can be dangerous if it goes wrong .
I’ve loved my gas homes. Nothing cooks like a gas stove - ovens? Eh - about the same. But either way the gas company will come out and inspect any new or even old appliances any time you call as many times as you call. Bought an old but very fancy stove years ago and had it rebuilt. Just something about it made me uncomfortable. I called the gas company about 4 times in a week. The last time I called they found a problem but it was in my wall not the stove. I was worried they would think I was just a crazy woman but they never did even after I had it all repaired I called them again and they came out just to check EVERYTHING. Wasn’t even a lot of money that I remember. Maybe cause I made cookies for them everytime too lol
Sorry, but when you keep talking about the pipe that was in the ground you're making yourselves look foolish. It's VERY CLEAR that it could not have been a pipe in the ground, and it had to be something inside the house. See, all the pipe that runs from the street to the house is run underground and then back up out of the ground near the side of the house which is all outside of the house.
I'm wondering if the person that was in the house was trying to off themselves because there's no way there was that much gas inside that house without them knowing. You can't really smell a small leak, but a leak that would cause that much gas to be inside a house would cause the house to smell like sulfur, or rotten eggs so that you would know there's a major gas leak.
ok first point an underground pipe can still leak into the house depending on soil permeability and if the basement is not sealed gas can start to build in the basement. just a theory it was raining, ground is wet hindering the gas so it follows the path of least resistance, gas starts filling the basement or sub-floor, a lightning strike close to the house a spark causes the explosion. i am a Pennsylvania state certified HASMAT Command level responder. trust me when i say the new stuff they add to lp gas. makes it almost impossible to not notice even the tiniest leaks. so its ether my theory, or yours with the suicide. the suicide is in reality the most plausible right now.
when I was a kid a house like this went up locally. They were not home. If I recall right they guy was heating and cooling guy and there may of been some debt involved it was a really nice house. It was almost 20 minutes away from us and we heard it when it popped. I drove out there after the news and the sheet/ curtains were in nearby trees 40 ft up. I don't think a faulty in ground pipe was to blame from that photo. That was a leak inside the home IMHO. I'm surprised that no one could smell it and get out there.
@@quinszar No basements in Plano. No basements almost anywhere in Texas.
@@kayintexas4672 I second that!
@@quinszar That house sat on a concrete slab. Very little to no gas is going to seep through a concrete slab that sits on top of the soil when there aren't any gas lines run under the slab.
There wasn't any basement or crawlspace involved.
And correct, gas does take the path of least resistance, which would be up out of the ground where the gas line itself exits the ground outside of the boundaries of the house.
Ps. What "Certified HAZMAT Command Level Responder" spells HAZMAT with an "S" instead of a "Z"?
Just asking for a friend. :)
I spent 15 years being "HAZMAT" Certified.
You would think everyone would have smelled the gas even neighbors might have smelled it ,it took alot to do this kind of damage
It’s probably Poly for material of the gas line, and the customer owned line begins after the meter not in the ground where the gas company line is. So the illustration is incorrect.
The gas meter can be by the curb. They are not all was by the house. The meter can also be in the alley.
@@stgraves260 yes sir! Worked for them for 15 years
About 25 years ago I had just moved into an apartment in Dallas in the Knox/Henderson area when there was a massive gas explosion that completely destroyed half the building on the other side of the courtyard from my apartment. It blew in my windows and doors. The gas company paid a settlement to each of the tenants.
Per Enflo , Was ATMOS ? 🥺
gas company investigating what happen will find that theres is nothing wrong
Quick question guys.... wouldn't there be a crater if it was from an underground pipe?
Natural gas is lighter than air
Real explosions are different than movie explosions.
100% Yes there would be.
@@panfry54
Lighter than air yet saturates the dirt. Yes it leaves a hole in the ground. I have seen 2 pipeline explosions, one of them incinerated a bulldozer. And yes there was huge holes in the ground. It also sounded like standing beside a jet engine from about 2 miles away. It took the gas company hours to get the pipeline shut down and purged. Natural gas is super dangerous. I personally would never live in a house that has natural gas piped into it.
New smart meters can detect abnormal excess registration on a gas meter (possibly house line leak) and will send a technician to investigate within 24hrs if the excess usage does not stop.
If it’s in the UG line going to the house BEFORE the gas meter, the only way to know if there’s a leak is if someone calls because they smell gas and the responding technician determines it is a leaking service. This leak must’ve been a long steady leak that built up and caught an ignition source OR been a huge leak that built up so fast and blew up on a ignition source. I’m guessing this was an UG leak n the service.
It blew from inside of the house outwards. You can tell by the debris field. It'll be on the home owners issue.
That sucks coming back to nothing just find out its your fault.
Gas leaking from a pipe break on the high pressure side of the regulator can percolate through the ground and enter the house through pipe (water/sewer) penetrations in the foundation. It may even lose the odorant that makes the "gas" smell. It is still too early to tell.
@@machintelligence The gas doesn't need to percolate through the ground, it can flow along the outside of the pipeline underground and come in the house where the gas line enters. Where I live the gas meter is at the house, but the gas line enters the house above ground, preventing that.
At this point, they cannot dismiss the possibility that all this was a failed suicide attempt.......
Apparently, there was only one person in the ground zero house. Granted, anything is possible, but suicide by gas has been down before.
@@machintelligence , you are absolutely correct. I have ran over 10000 emergency calls and yes a couple of houses explosions in my 35-year career. Michael what you need to understand is all house explosions are known as confined space explosions. Without a confined space the gas would just be blowing out into the atmosphere and if ignited it would be like a torch. So of course the house blew up from the inside but how the gas got there still needs to be determined. Investigations like this take time and the documented cause may take months if not a year to come out.
I'm glad my gas company came out and redid my whole system two years ago meter and all
they just did this exact thing at a property I own. They also has to come inside and check all connections and they found a very small leak my side and fixed it. He said they have to check and fix anything on both sides of the meter due to liability issues. As they would catch the blame for anything that might happen when they in the area.
Someone was inside the house. The amount of gas needed to build up to do that kind of damage is absolutely tremendous. Doesn't add up.
The only thing I can imagine is that they were sleeping when the line broke. You'd think the stench would wake the dead, but some people are very heavy sleepers.
I had a friend that capped off a small wall heater and over time the gas built up in the house. Well they lit a cigarette and it blew him out of the house. He was in shock and ran back in and got his 2 grandkids and wife. Unfortunately he and his wife lost their lives,but the grandkids survived, but had months of skin grafting, etc! So yes, gas could have been building up in that house!
anybody can talk fancy and act professional and literally say nothing. next
whata about the kid that saw the lightening flash right before the 2 booms'
More info??? Laser weapon
@@TT-jg8ju no like lightening from the sky..
Craig Eby where u heard the kid or news?
@@TT-jg8ju He was interviewed on the news he lived couple streets over...its on you tube ..
Lots of meters in North Dallas and the area have smelly meters. I’ve been told it’s normal by meter readers but I know better. As a tradesman I always make sure the homeowners are aware.
Sometimes the workers aren't careful and leave a compression fitting loose
@@Robnord1 sure it can. So can a lazy worker
If you smell gas just call it in. It’s really that simple. Do not wait until you see a Atmos employee 6 months after you started smelling gas. By then, it could be to late. You can call the Fire Department or Atmos Energy. If the FD arrives they can decide if Atmos even need to get involved.
@@tbishop4961 Atmos Energy has not used compression coupling in over 20 years. On the other hand a home owner and a plumber are allowed to use them. This I will never understand.
@@stgraves260 idk who atmos energy is. Oklahoma natural gas is a oneok company. I'm sure the term I used was wrong, but from layman perspective similar device
I don't wait for a worker to come back out when that dial is spinning 😂
Sound editors!!!!! Do your job. Video sound drowned out reporters words.
You know something is up when they use cartoons to explain what happened.
Just a tip: The gas Company was working in the rear of this property directly before it blew. What were they doing ?
The regulator is outside the home and if it fails the relief pops off and releases gas in the atmosphere OUTSIDE the home. This house exploded from the inside.
The only thing that has to be reported to the railroad Commission is loss of life and if the damage is greater than 50K.
That's methed up.
Yep they were cooking!!!
Natural gas is deadly to breathe, how did the family not pass out before the explosion?
They may have. We don't know.
What tf at 00:33 did Bill Gates transition?!
🤣
Gas companies are liable for these explosions. There are ways to stop them from happening when gas is routes into a home, they are simply too cheap to install the safety measures. So make them pay huge amounts each time a home explodes. They will start installing the fix when it becomes far too expensive not to !
2015 i unhooked my gas line from the meter from the tank from my house and made them come take all of it... i have a wood burner now and feel 10.000 times safer...
Sure because this happens all the time...
@Mia Li depends how close the neighbor is...mine not so close...I live in country...
@@onazram1 watch the news this actually happens ALOT
Can someone explain the regulatory connection between Texas gas companies and the Texas Railroad Commission?
The railroad commission regulates everything not just gas
Look up CFR-192 it’s the Code of Federal Registration of gas and oil. It will help you understand. I think that’s what your asking about. Hope it helps.
Was anyone in the house when this happened?
One person, but 5 at the neighbor house, all 6 went to the hospital.
So no answer still?
They were making dinner when all of a sudden BOOM! Rumor has it the meal they were cooking was spaghetti and methballs.
This didn’t age well.
Why can't they determine exceedingly high use immediately and turn off remotely?
There are things called "High flow cut-off valves", that do just that. No electronics at all, just mechanical. When my gas company replaced the steel gas lines with plastic in my neighborhood, about 10 years ago, they installed those valves on the service line for each house where it taps into the line in the street. The ones they installed are self resetting.
@@robert20770 Exactly, by 2021 it should be a non issue already, but it could've been an attack or intentional.
@@Throughthelurkingglass , they are called excessive flow valves and there is no way we know at this time whether this house had one. They are also set at about 400,000 BTUs of gas flow, so anything under would not trip the valve. Also some utilities have a smart meters that can indicate excessive gas usage for a particular house's estimated usage by the month or time of year where in. But at this time it's too early to tell if this particular house had any of these devices.
@@boby115 they gotta be able to measure this stuff individually. Not even from the houses. From the inside
@@Throughthelurkingglass , if the NTSB get involved, I can assure you no stone will be unturned. They will use all the tools in their toolbox and investigate all records. I'm not too familiar with the Texas Railroad Commission but I'm sure they probably will do a thorough job as well and maybe even set new requirements.
It was a MICROBURST!!!! It was storming ⛈⛈⛈⛈⛈⛈⛈👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
They go to blame 🙄the owners 🙄😒😑😐
some kind of cover up here that was no gas blast
Why not using electric?
Safer
What a tereible way to die