Josh Homme's REAL Secret Sound?
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
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0:00 - Opening statement
1:30 - Before You Buy....
3:06 - The REAL Secret?
7:50 - Searching for that Little Amp
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A lava lamp, trashy amps, messy workbench, weirdo tech-nerd-talk and a Humble person... Okay I'm home. Just found your channel. Great!
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Not sure that's entirely complimentary lol
@@Goldmanvision believe me, it's incredibly complimentary. I don't wanna watch non-hippie, non-nerdy, braggadocious UA-camrs with perfectly clean state of the art studios which are unobtainable and NOT covered in all of the things that show the person's passion (the "messy" workbenches that aren't even that messy). Ideal 💕
@@outbakjak words from my soul!
Hommes secret weapon is the fact he can get tones out of amps most people don’t want. It’s brilliant, I take inspiration from that and the particular amps he used
Well said. Altough I think we would get those sounds out the amps but then we‘d say: ‚that‘s crap let‘s sound like Hendrix, Page or Hetfield. 🙈🙈🙈
He's just a guy. You can get those tones. too.
And bass amps back in Kyuss days.
@@Goldmanvision yeah she didn’t even talk about it
@@amremorse Yes and no. His riffs and scales are very traditional (polka, hungarian, gregorian), however they are included in a genre of music where they aren't typically heard. What makes it extremely unique is the tone. If you want a clear example of this, watch QotSA songs performed electric versus acoustic. The riffs and scales change as they are dependent on the amp, guitar, tone, pedals, etc., to work. Homme talks about this.
Billy Gibbons is the past master of setting false trails for secret sauce ingredients 😂
How so?
And they have worked together
Lmao right
Yep. Like his 7 gauge string ruse. And peso for a pick. Chronic liar.
@j.d.leslie8458 no, he actually does use 7 Guage strings.
Back in the day, my "secret weapon" was a Pignose amp and playing in a dormitory stairwell.
Ooh, now you're talking 1970's. Dial it in right and it sounded like a mini Marshall amp.
the pignose was also part of frank zappas secret arsenal!
We used to do a “piggy in the box” putting the pig nose in a footlocker.
Did Clapton use a Pignose or a Champ on Layla?
Throw it in a tiled bathroom, toilet and hook a Boss Super Overdrive and can close to the early Van Halen sound..
This was a clear attempt on Homme’s part to keep prices of the Gorilla GG-25 with “Tube Stack” from skyrocketing. Way to throw them nerds off the scent, Josh!
Haha my first amp was the smallest gorilla made. Brings back serious memories.
That’s what I always heard him say. I saw one article that mentioned the peavey. He said gorillas all have the sweet terrible, as he called it. An amp on the verge of explosion
😂. Still got mine!
whoaaaa gorilla gg25 was my first amp ever. its sucked 25 yrs ago too!
Hah! Had one of those in the 80s I used to record with, always got the job done!
Funnily enough, that tape recorder trick you said you used back in the day is the key to the sound of early argentinian blues rock records, with the oval speaker and everything! They used Geloso and National recorders, among others. Great examples of this sound are "Pappo's Blues 3" by Pappo's Blues and "Manal" by Manal. Greetings from Argentina!!
I have to find this! Blues de Argentina? I'm in! Saludos de Puerto Rico!!!
As a lifelong fan of QOTSA and music production, it’s always very exciting to learn a new thing about Homme’s process. Thanks for sharing this info and I agree wholeheartedly as soon as I saw the decade on Mark Ronson I knew it was a red herring.
I have a Peavey Backstage Plus (35 watts with 10" speaker) that I bought new in 1986. It has the same pre-amp and the sounds you can get out of it are great. I take it down and clean all the pots every couple of years. It's my favorite amp to use when I'm playing at a friends house or quietly in my house.
My eldest brother was a ham radio operator who liked to work the low AM bands. He discovered that his LF preamp and power amp also worked fairly well for audio once you matched the output impedance.
How interesting thankyou.
Also Linear line signal amplifiers were used on citizen band (CB) radios in the "side band" frequencies for a similar purpose of skip radio signals across the earths atmosphere and talking to other people a great distance away. I actually talked to people in Canada, Mexico, Scotland, and even Australia from a single location at about 8,000ft elevation depending on weather conditions.
I used to get AM stations on my tube amp if I put the potentiometer in just the right spot!
I never knew exactly how or why (not as well versed with electronics in this way) but one of my old amps, when i would play on it and truckers were nearby they could both hear me and i could hear them. I know they could hear me because they'd start talking about how they were hearing someone playing (insert song here) on guitar over their radio. Does anyone know why that is, because i always found it fascinating
Hi Fran. Thanks for the great video. Was the reel to reel you had a Wollensak, by any chance? I ask only because I recently found one on the street in Philly and discovered the joy of playing my electric through it
Glad to see you’re back!
During the TCV-era Josh mentioned that a lot of guitars from that record was plated through old radios converted to amplifiers and said that he would put up Alain Johannes (TCV touring guitarist and frequent collaborator) against any other guitarist and any other anplifier. Needless to say Homme is always experimenting with his live setup in general and his studio setup in particular. I really doubt there is a secret weapon, more likely there is a dozen secret weapons...
….just saw your name….so gotta say also always loved your foam cowboy hat you slick, sharp dressed Turd you….
Alain Johannes is a bad man!!
Hmm... I'm thing Keith Richards mentioned using old radio amps back in the '60s to get his sound.... Anybody remember that?
Paul Weller used a Peavey Backstage 30 a lot. If you watch UA-cam videos of them live, you’ll see it stage right next to him, mic’ed up. He also had an AC-30, and sometimes a Marshall stack behind him, but I think they were more about art direction/promo requirements.
I have all vintage peavey bass gear, but I love it!
Picked up a bandit 65 for 30 bucks Aud a few years back. A flush ou of the pots and its been brilliant.
Thank you for a walk down memory lane, my first amp was a Bogen that my father pulled out of a dumpster for me. I used a Radio Shack speaker tower with it and snap that was a loud amp! I had a baby Peavey that I gave away when I emptied my storage unit. Good times!
I have the Peavey Special 130 and it's so absurdly delightful. I bought it for a Pixies cover band because it's what Joey used live for the early stuff. I've hung onto it because of the onboard reverb, sheer volume, and amazing gain channel EQ.
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@@terminalglimmer Hmm.. what?
The parametric mid makes the Special 130, special. Love mine
Check the 1 minute 57 second mark of their "Head Like a Haunted House" music video. I believe this is that amp you show with the speaker through the top. I still have no clue of the brand but it is as clear of a picture you're gonna get of the front panel of this thing. It does appear to be a mag recorder of some kind as well. I've been trying to find one for years after I noticed it in the music video. Josh has always tried to keep people off the trail of his gear since at least the Desert Sessions, even when his "secret weapon" could be as simple as a Boss EQ pedal into a DS-1.
No shit... that is it....
thank you Fran
my first amp was a tube Silverstone. then i ran a Peavey like that one with the blue knob and pull out knob for studio recording. then i got a vox max 3w for busking. ive must a replaced and rebuilt the 3w like ten times. now i run a backup 150w mackie tump for the pier.
And let's not forget Blackmore, who ran his guitar through an Akai tape deck's preamp before sending it to the Marshall head. He did this in the studio as well as when playing live.
I have an I belive an 80s teak 1/2 inch reel to reel at this point only 2 out 8 tracks only record . Ihave thought about using it as an inbrween the source for instrument to another recorder to see if I could capture the tape vibe at all... or something to manipulate the sound in any wau Positive
.. Thanks
who?
@@boimesa8190 hopefully you are joking. If not it is Richie Blackmore.
Blackmore’s tone was awful.
@@thomasbushnell884 On some older decks, you have to use the tape or head alignment switch/toggle/adjuster to switch to the other tracks in pairs. ....Then use a studio deck to play them all back together at once.
100% agree! I also enjoy the Peavey Special 130. Twice the power of a Bandit 65. Awesome amps! Cheers!
Got one in the closet here. Just needs a little cleanup in the pots but love the tone. It’s too loud ( and heavy) for most of what I do now
Whaaaat, Fran doing a video on Josh Homme and Peavey amps? What a treat!
I had a Bandit 65 for years. Was my first real amp. A friend of mine was more of a tube amp purist and would hate on solid state amps to no end, including mine. I always really really loved the clean tone of it, though. Super clear and present. The overdrive was also cool. Sounds like razor blades or broken glass when cranked all the way, which has a certain appeal
Yeah--and is also very off-putting. 😄
Best metal tone I ever had was my blue stripe Bandit (RIP). 1st runner up is my Randall 100w. Analog solid state 4 life.
The early run of the Studio Pro 40's had a weird glitch in the preamp where you could max the saturation and back it off just barely for a little extra boost. I might have been just cheap pots, idk, but it seemed like it was a little fuller when it was on that setting.
Got a celestion for my backstage and it was a world of difference. It was my first amp that had distortion and reverb! The Studio Pro was my older brother's. We made a lot of noise in those days!
Great video Fran!
also had the Studio Pro 40, thing was a tank, had the awesome "Saturation" circuit & a real nice spring reverb & the pull-thick on the high tone control. Used it for gigs & recording for many years. Wish I still had it...
Yep. Sounds like the radio rock sounds. Don't need no pedals if you dial it in. It's all in the saturation backed off like you say.
Lou and Quine used Bandits on record and live. Paul Weller used the Bandit as a DI amp for live gigs of The Jam. Good stuff.
Those 80s Peavey amps with the blue Saturation control are kind of interesting creatures. Yeah, the same preamp was used all across their SS lineup with modest alterations. My old Backstage Plus has pull thick (which seems to mostly bypass the tone stack) and a pull bright (which bypasses some rc to ground on the first stage op amp). The Saturation control is a convoluted clipping feedback network. The circuit gives two flavors of drive using the pre/post and/or the saturation knobs. I was never a fan of cranking the saturation up , but used sparingly, it gives its own unique voice. Despite a couple eternally scratchy pots, it's been a trooper for almost 40 years.
I used to have a Peavey like that in the trunk of my first car, plugged it into a cigarette lighter power inverter! That and a walkman cd player was my sound system! Not a recommended setup because both the car and the amp didn't live for long, but the sound that came out of that thing was powerful! (I think Songs for the Deaf played more than a few times on that system too!)
Yep, back in the day, I had a lot of fun running my LP through a tiny mono tape recorder. Overdriving that tiny preamp made some glorious sounds.
The Backstage was my first amp. Saved up my allowance and grass mowing money and purchased it in 1982 I believe.
Great video i think your absolutely spot on. on a side note do you think you could sum the vocal mic to mono? the very slight stereo panning as you move was driving me crazy haha
i have an old peavey companion 10. it took me years to appreciate the sound i can get out of that little thing! very focused and great for recording.
I love my backstage plus. I just bought a 2nd one. I've owned a ton of amps and there is just something about it and it's real ... REAL tank reverb! Nuts. I'm going to hoard them and love them forever. Thanks for the video!
Really interesting! Glad this popped up randomly on my feed
Whatever his secret weapon may be, it is only a small part of his magic. Queens of the Stone Age & Eagles of Death Metal are my favorites! Fran, you're damn awesome as well.
It's a shame that eagles of death metal's singer is a real nutjob. I really liked that band.
Yes Fran, wicked. Good to hear from you.
I used a bandit 65 for a while and loved it then went to an bandit 80 watt and liked it too. I'm 77 and saw a B/65 and could barely pick it up, apparently it had gained weight over the years;0)
I have a hard time walking away from a good deal on a sound. Years ago I picked up a Peavey Backstage (I'm guessing from the 90's) and it instantly became MY amp, my go-to, my sound. I don't know how it compares to the earlier 'blue knobs', but I do know that some of those little Peaveys pack some real magic.
Great vid! Thanks! I've had a Peavey Bandit 112 with single (12 inch?) speaker since about 1988! Never gigged and just bought it from some rich kid at the time who had only owned it for a few months and was using it as a bedroom practice amp! I've pretty much done the same with it since - although it has never really been used in any sort of 'anger'! I've wondered what it might be worth these days - judging by some of these amps!
LOVED the Decade ! Sounded awesome with a TS-9 and a Crybaby. Played Maiden, old Scorpions, and Priest .
Then Came the Marshall Lead 12. I was going to buy another
Decade but the prices are crazy.
I've got close to a dozen Peavey amps. Got my first one - a Backstage 30 - in 1980. They never cease to amaze me.
Hi Fran. Are those Peaveys of yours solid-state? I have a 90s Bandit Solo Series 112 (teal stripe, US made) and although it's getting too heavy for me to lug around these days I love the sound of it. Best wishes!
i saw that pod segment also and was very new to electronics and guitar sound and was also looking for what it was, I assumed that it was a small stereo amplifier (incorrectly) and broke my grandparents old solid state amp, Thankyou Fran awesome information
Happy new year Fran
I had a bandit 65 for almost 20 years until the speaker went out and instead of replacing i jumped onto and Orange. I miss that amp, you make me want to get one again
One of the best distortion sounds I ever got was a little 15w Radio Shack Realistic PA I would turn all the way up through my Sunn 4-10 cab after I blew my Beta-lead head.... it distorted nice, and wasn't too loud
Over two decades ago we used a similar Peavy amp for gigs. This was because one of our amps was stolen and the studio where it was stored felt bad they loaned us one of these amps. I used to have my guitar hooked up to it as I basically always played with overdrive. The venue would mic it up to the PA and it really did sound fantastic. So much so we always begged to use that amp at gigs. Pretty sure it was one of the same amps as I remember the blue pot. People used to laugh at us bringing this little amp on stage until they heard it in context!
Josh has lots of sounds. I've heard him talk about the Matchless Hot Box and the Tube Works RT-2100 being part of the signature Kyuss sound at one point. Back in the day, I tried to achieve a similar sound with a ProCo Turbo Rat and a Sovtek MIG 50.
I have a Peavey Studio Chorus 210. Its the most versatile amp I've ever owned. Its so over engineered. Over the years this amp has encouraged me to shed all my pedals and simply plug straight into the amp. I get endless varieties of sounds and its really liberating to have such a simplified rig.
I live in Mobile ,Al and we always used Peaveys because they were made in Meridian, MS a few hours away so you could get a wholesale price at the factory vs retail at a store....besides their amazing quality. Great video Fran!!!!
I'm currently living in Meridian, MS. Got to meet Hartley Peavey when I worked as a photo developer technician at the Eckerd's across from their home office on 493 just North of North Hills Street!!! Another one of my jobs in Meridian was working for Hooper Electronics at the 6th. St electronic parts store. Learned from old man Hooper that Peavey wouldn't have been if it weren't for Hooper Electronics as Hartley Peavey initially sourced quite a few of his parts from there when he was just starting out!!!😁👍🏻 Sadly, Hooper's is no longer in business!!!😔
I really enjoyed this. Once you find that magic little amp hang onto it and never let it go. For me it’s the Vox VT 30.
The peavey bandit is a great amp.
I own a peavey bandit 112 with scorpion speaker version. Bought it from a friend, wasn't working for more than 2 hour's, and started to cut in and out. Replaced all the caps in the PSU circuit. And Changed all caps in the toon circuit. And it still have the same sound. But it sparkle more. It sounded before the mod quite dull.
Great Video.
My first really decent amp was a Roland JC-120. All of us starting out in the 80s had Peaveys. They were really reliable and tough solid state amps. Still have a PA head from over 30 years ago and still functions
JC-120s are classics. Probably the best solid-state guitar amp ever made.
This brings back memories. As a teen I had a tiny Peavey audition 20 that plugged into my vans 12 volt cigarette lighter. This was great, because I literally lived in that van in the 1980s. I would work at a day labor a couple days a week, or work under the table tax free, swim in the Ft. Lauderdale or Daytona beach for a shower, and party with the people I’d met the rest of the time. That little amp was a screamer ! Lol. Later I got a Bandit 65. I liked them mainly because Peaveys were cheap & loud. These days I use Vox MV 50s. with the matching cab.
i really love their logo ... always favoured pointy over large curves and curls with these and wrting art
That reminds me of Randy Bachman's "Herzog".
It's basically a Fender Champ with a 10 ohm resistor for a speaker and a voltage divider to drop the level to an amp input friendly level.
He used it on "No time" and "American woman".
I have a little Peavy Blazer practice amp that has a blue knob , I got in the early 90's. great for small room practice. Have had to re soldier the input jack connections ,and found a few cold joints on the board, but it still kicks a little when you ask for it.
I grew up in the high desert such memories. I had a friend that lived out there and still does When I was learning to play guitar he built me an amplifier out of a small home speaker and parts from a AM/FM stereo I would plug that thing in crank it up, let face down on the bed, and it had the most awesome sound to this day, I still search for that sound on every amp I own every now and then
I really love that outro song! Subtle banger that tiny tune!
Thank you for an informative and entertaining video. I’d love to see you and Rick Beato have a conversation...
I've got the next generation Bandit 65 up from that, had it for almost 30 years, and its still going strong and is a great sounding amp. The clean tone is brilliant.
I've played through most of Peavey's single speaker combos, and I agree totally that they share a common preamp circuit (or close enough to be negligible). Most of the sound difference between them was due to the speaker and cabinet size. It would be an interesting experiment to do a tonal comparison of the Decade and Bandit amps with the same speaker/cab configuration and same amp settings. Other than a slight difference in volume, I think they'll sound pretty close.
Played my super fabulous Sears “LP” through whatever I could find that had a speaker: walkie-talkie, an 8-track player with 1/8” mic input, a stereo reel-to-reel where I overdrove ch. A, attenuated through ch. B, then fed it to my stereo receiver aux input. Woo hoo, glorious distortion 😃.
When I was 15 I used to play my guitar through a Sony tube-driven open-reel tape deck. The mic input had a hot preamp and the speaker out could send a very good fuzz tone to my guitar amp, a MusicMan 112 Sixty-Five with reverb and tremolo. I could get Fripp-like tones this way.
We also used to use little solid-state ‘flashlight’ amps with 6” and 8” speakers. Cranked they sounded great and we could use several of them for multi-instrument fuzz jams at moderate volume. They all broke down eventually and of course we didn’t think of fixing them.
Awesome video Fran! Thanks for sharing😊🙌🤘
That secret weapon blurry picture looks suspishiouly like an early solid state Shure product. Maybe someone was modifying them for mag recorder use? it has obviously been modified due to the closed fan hole on top.
Was going to say just that, looks like little Shure mixer I had
I had a teal stripe Envoy 110, complete with spring reverb. I was awfully fond of that thing.
Josh has used a lot of amps over the years and has a lot of different "sounds"... Tubeworks Mosvalve, Peavey Musician, old tube hifis, old Gibsons, all sorts of pedals... Livingroom Gear Demos goes a lot of sound alike videos for QOTSA and Kyuss. The photos from SFTD sessions with Eric Valentine show tons of amps, cabs and mics all being used at the same time.
Been seeing some interesting vids on this amp! I happen to have a Decade I think I traded with a friend or bought it for like $ 40. back in the 90s. Mainly been using it to play my Alesis elec drums through it, but fired it up the other day to get some better sound out of my big screen TV, it works great! I have since cleaned it up, it really needs the pots cleaned but will get around to it sometime. Thanks for this always interesting to learn these tidbits!
Brings back memories of my “secret weapon” in the early 70s, which was plating through my Echoplex without any delay running. Nice that you can get that same preamp vibe with an inexpensive pedal like a Dunlop EP101 these days. Life is good! :-)
An old Hitachi reel to reel was my first amp. You could just engage the record button then plug into the mic input. The speaker was an old oval type ripped from an abandoned b&w tv that I housed in a diy pine box and plugged into the headphone socket. Awesome sound though my dad didn't think so bless him. 😁
I have a Peavey Backstage 30 plus with reverb for home and a Special 130 I used to gig with. Great amps. 🖖
yeah i've had 130 special since '83. have a little 'rage' since '91; been said a speaker swap out transforms the rage.
I grew up by Peavey HQ, and remember when their gear was dirt cheap. I have a 5150 tube combo, and found a 100W bass amp for $30 in Goodwill. US made, and solid. Very rare now!
Meridian, MS?! Currently living here myself!!!🤗
I had a blue knob Peavey Bass amp for a long time before I moved up to an amp loud enough to really play shows.
That little Peavey was indestructible though. I've blown a lot of amps, but that guy could tolerate volume cranked to 10 with gain anywhere you like.
The DDT compression kicked in and kept you from frying it. The sound was great in the bedroom, but it mushed out next to a drummer.
It was really good for recording though. Almost all the knobs pulled out for thick, shift, bright etc.
Later on I tripped over the real cool Peaveys.
The old Century, Musician and similar 70s amps from them have some amazing sounds in them.
I think it's the Musician that had a preamp you could overdrive AND separate fuzz and distortion circuits in parallel.
All solid state so a lot of people will turn up their nose. But I have never gotten a heavier bass sound with my Mesa, Aguilar or Acoustic rigs.
Maybe with my old Traynor YBA1a (why did I ever sell that tube eating demon).
The downside from older Peaveys is that early on Hartley Peavey would buy huge lots of parts at a discount then design to take advantage of whatever cheapo transitors he got.
Seems a lot of those old ones have output mosfet failure. And the way they fail makes it easy for them to fry speakers.
I'm a fan of solid state distortion on bass, also modeling. I'm also a bass di guy. I come from being a bit of a tube amp snob for guitar.
beautifull VOX Mini ! i've got one too: lovely! ...and I 've still my 1986 Peavey Bacstage Plus, and I think it's great!
Back in the mid 1970s, I used to use my Dad's ancient Ferrograph 5 tape recorder as a guitar amp. Classic British military grade construction, powered by Mullard valves. It gave out the nastiest fuzz tone when fully cranked..
Bought a Peavey Backstage II in ‘82 dropped my Les Paul on the headstock.., heartbroken & quit playing for years.., much later ‘94 I think, got gifted a really great Kramer copy of a Strat.., figured out how to use the “secret weapon” on my home stereo system & now I only buy used gear. Currently I play an Ibanez strat w/ an acoustic 15w practice amp (as a preamp) & run that to a Peavey 115 combo( the chorus mode gives great depth & even at very low settings it totally works great. Took a while but Wow! What a sound!
Loved this video! I would HIGHLY suggest anyone, especially rock and heavy rock players, try a Peavy Brovo. There all tube. 2 el84's and 3 12ax7's. Effects loop, speaker out etc. They can be had used for the outrageous price of... $400 used! I've been playing for close to 40 yrs and it's my personal favorite of any I owned for home use!
Wow! That's super cool and a testament to what can be achieved without a huge budget or amps that were worth thousands of dollars (or even Peavey Decades haha). I'm going to go scour my local thrift stores now.
Found your channel today and I love you already.
You won't believe this, but I still have the Decade that I bought in 1982! I bought it with a cheap no-name Strat copy, with birthday money and saved-up cash. I used it for years on gigs and for recording, mostly DI although it was fine with a mic too. Sounds great with fuzz!
The first guitar I ever owned was a present from my parents and it was a brand new '83 Peavey Mystic and a used Backstage Plus.I honestly forget how it sounded but I guess not too good because they sell cheap today and I might get one to remember.
I saw Kyuss in a small club sometime around '93-'94. From what I remember Josh was playing an Ovation guitar into an Ampeg into a 4x10 and a 1 or 2x15.
Saw them in 1992 at Irvine Meadows on Halloween with Zombie and Danzig and they sounded like shit to be honest. That wasn't uncommon for opening bands there though.
Yes indeed. Peavey guitar amps are fantastic. Not an amp, but my secret weapon for years has a Peavey Rockmaster 4 tube guitar preamp. It's got 3 settings: Clean, Dirty and Stupid loud. It has a 10+ decibel boost, which is waaaay overkill, but wow. Just Wow!
I have the backstage 26 watt, circa ~1982. haven't plugged it in in years, but always loved it when a friend that really knew how to play would plug in with me on that little beast so I could play a 4 chord progression while he wailed my neighbors to death! he had some customized fender with old school tubes at home and was impressed by the cheap backstage.
Truly fascinating. Thank you so much!!!
Interesting! Thanks! Keep up the good work! (please make your vids mono, I came close to tuning off because of the shifting stereo, very annoying on cans)
Just so happens, I have a Peavey Backstage Plus that a great friend gave me for nothing, it needed a replacement speaker so I ordered a new Jensen C10Q online, it definitely sounds good with a Jensen C10Q, but i made some extra mods to my Backstage Plus amp so that it also had a footswitch that plugged into a socket on the back panel, and also included led indicators.
One of the best distorted tone I ever got was using a tube run reel to reel tape recorder as a pre amp.
I've seen similar amps on ebay in the vintage electronics section, I add "for parts or repair" in the search bar sometimes too.
It's worth a shot.
Peavey Renown 212 lacked a chorus but at 140w rms very popular for pedal steel
2 score and a few years ago I worked in a music store in Nashville TN. One DJ convention week, Hartley Peavey him self brought in two brand new, early off the line Session 400s for 2 well know pedal steel players. Best amp next to a Fender Twin Reverb for steel.
I also ran a Peavey Authorized service center for a time and they where (and still are) well built amps.
I currently have a Peavey Vypyr 30 that I like quite well.
Even the late 80's PV Rage 108, my first amp, now goes for more than they were new! It's kinda crazy. I could only ever get ONE "wow" sound out of it, and that was when I ran a Fender Mycro headphone amp output into the front of the PV. It was a one trick pony, but it was pretty good trick for a blatty, over-the-top distorted lead tone. With the mass of fuzz pedal builders now, it's SOOO much easier to get a wider variety of tones for less $$$.
Had a Rage 158 for my first amp. Buzzy by itself but the pre out into my second, a Roland JC-77, was surprisingly mean. Never sell your gear, kids. Hoarding is the answer.
Ain't that the truth
I prefer to call it an ever evolving unorganized chaotic but specific collection.
Fran, if I ever see one of these, it's yours. I played through a portable cassette recorder with very old batteries ran into an 8-Track deck on my first guitar. Nice distortion. 😀🤘
I just had a Series 130 drop in my lap. These 80s solid state amps are freaking cool! It has fantastic sound and I’m blown away by how well the reverb works on it
I had to borrow a Friends Bandit 65 in the 80’s while My Marshall JCM800 was being worked on. I was never so glad to see that Marshall come back.
My first “distortion pedal” was a Sankyo STD-1510 cassette recorder into a solid state Silvertone. Sold the Silvertone and bought a used Decade from my buddy for $50, back in 81 or 82. Still have it. I agree, get the Backstage.
Just gonna drop "had a conversation with Liam Lynch" like it's nbd. You're a legend, Fran.
When I was in my teen band in the 60s our guitarist was obsessed with Brit guitarists and that overdriven valve sound ... His little locally made Jansen amp wouldn't do it , he called me up in the middle of the night to play me something and babbled about pre-amps and the like , I was the drummer and had no idea what he was on about but it did sound great . The following day at his parents place he showed us how he plugged into the 1/4 inch mic input his father's valve powered Grundig tape recorder and taken a line out of the back and into his little combo amp ... huge sound and the Clapton ' Beano ' Bluesbreakers tone just like that . A few years later , Paul Crowther ( the inventor of the Hot Cake pedal ) would build him New Zealand's first 200 watt valve amp and build the great granddaddy of the hot cake into my mate's guitar . Paul just converted a 40s valve radio into a 10 watt amp for the same guy , sounds great of course .
Hommes secret is he is a great guitarist. He could sound amazing playing anything (which was set up correctly) We like to delude ourselves that we suck because we dont have this amp or that guitar.
Nailed it. Stop chasing gear - practice more
I remember back in high school, a band mate had a Bandit but I remember not liking the sound at all. I had a Fender Yale Reverb and preferred it over the Bandit by far, at least for the clean tones. It would be interesting to check both those amps out again now that I am all growns up.
I think the gap would be even wider now! ;)
@@stratolestele7611 That's my bet.
Wow, just saw this video in my feed. What a blast from the past. My dad owns a peavey TnT combo bass amp with a 15" speaker in it. Also have a peavey Powered mixer that has to be from the 70s. It's a 7 channel with the wooden handles on the side. That thing still works somehow. Lol. I can't imagine anyone using those peavey solid state amps for Studio Recordings. At least not for high gain Rock or Metal guitars. I think they were made to use for practice amps or live shows. Of course I could be wrong but the only peavey I would put a mic in front of for riff recording would be a 5150.