Bass Fishing Through The Fall Transition 2, Early Fall: VFJ26
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Transition means... change! What to do when your lake or pond goes sour! In this Video Fishing Journal we find ourselves in the thick of the Fall Transition: vegetation die-off, turbidity, and likely oxygen depression. Pick a different water? Let's stick it out, and see what we can come up with. Heck, that's what TNF is all about...
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Fall can be tough! Great tips 👍🏼🎣
Hi, TFM2.0. I have one big advantage, and that's that I do my fishing "research" on small waters. They are never far away. But, they may or may not be very willing to make my job easier and chase my lures down. :) Paul
The Nature of Fishing hey that’s awesome ! Yea they eat when they wanna🤷🏽♂️
I'm glad you are recording this information. It will be a good reference for generations to come.
Hi, GMF. That's the idea. Feel free to share with friends. Cheers, Paul
Scouted boat ramps at Rodman Reservoir today. Northernmost Ocala Nat Forest. Lake undergoes a drawdown every 3-4 yrs for weed control. Will be down approx. 7' thru mid March. Not fished it before, can't wait. Everything I read says the fishing is epic during this period. Your info on dying plant material and its impact is timely! Thank you! Looking forward to the next!
Hi, Duane. Sounds exciting. Rodman has a had quite a rep. Drawdowns clear out vegetation along shorelines and other shallow spots, like what I described in the late summer Jungle Warfare vids. Here in my waters it's natural, from evaporation mostly. Drought years can really take my waters down. But this can create great fishing, "carnage zone" stuff, as it consolidates fish, predator and prey alike. I look for deep holes where bass collect and crush bluegills at the perimeter and up onto flats, esp using cuts and channels to penetrate those shallow flats. Oooooooo! Good luck with it. New water is always interesting. Take notes for your return trips! Paul
Mr Paul, thank you o much for sharing all of these great VFJ's...I live in south of Brazil, where the Bass sene is growing (the have bass since late 60's) but the quality is picking up...I'm starting my UA-cam channel focused on Black Bass in Brazil and find your channel so rich and detailed! Congratulations! And keep it up!
Hi, FBB. Thanks! Glad you enjoy them. I had another Brazilian here recently. Cool that you have some bass fishing there too. And great to hear that the quality is picking up. That's exciting. Good luck with your channel. Sounds fun. Cheers, Paul
Another great video Paul, thanks for taking the time to put it out.
Hi, Morty. You bet. More to come. Paul
Awesome video Paul always learn a lot watching your videos thanks man keep it up
Hi, David. Great. Thanks. Paul
I hope all is well , God bless 🙌 Oh Wise One
Thanks, bat man.
Thanks. I do really enjoy your video series alot. Good information, good character, no showboating drivel.
Hi, Tom. Thanks. Not sure everyone can sit through... a lecture. But at least it's something important! Like fishing! :) Yeah, no showboating. I'm more interested in the fish and fishing. Cheers, Paul
love that float tube! Imust get one, been looking at them for years cannot wade fish anymore, but i can swim and -padal me legs. Look forward to bassing again!! Love your show.
Hi, David. Welcome back to fishing! Float tubes... I simply love mine. They may feel awkward at very first, but once you get the hang of it, they are very comfortable and very precise in boat control. And they give you access to an entire (small) water body. Cons are: They are slow. Although very safe, they cannot handle current or much chop. If you use an anchor, bring a knife (folding!). You sit low in the water so you cant see into the water very far away. If you can fish within those parameters, they are wonderful. People on shore will call out, "Looks comfy!" I respond, "Yes, it's essentially a lounge chair, that gives me the best seat in the house." :)
Enjoy your time out there.
Best, Paul
Thank you so much for making these VFJ for all of us I've learned so much from you and its helped me grow as an angler so much !!! Thank you , you have the best content!!!!!!!
Hi, Robert. Thanks for the wonderful comment. Great to hear you are able to make use of the info. Cheers, Paul
@@thenatureoffishing7591 Will you be doing winter VFJ rhis year???
Hi, Robert. I certainly plan to, weather allowing. Actually did my first one the other day, as Winter conditions have struck our "Fall Transition Laboratory Pond". It's a darn tough little fishery, esp as winter conditions set in. So, to mitigate the risk of nearly "beating a dead horse", I'm going to switch to a pond with a larger bass population, to up my odds as Winter comes on. Here's to... balmy weather. Cheers, Paul
@@thenatureoffishing7591 that's great to hear because I have no idea what the bass are doing in the winter , I dont know how there feeding or where to look for "bassy" places , to catch bass in the winter time , my pond has very little wood cover or grass, dut it dose have a lot of depth changes and contours, but that's about it where do I look for the fish ?????
@@robertjaynes4322 Gee, how's this for response time! (I'm home editing the next "Fall" journal, trying to catch up with the season!). So... my VFJ's I see as an archive, meaning they aren't vlogs that pertain only to any specific day, or year. My past Winter journals will be equally relevant year in and year out. They may not be performed on water's exactly like your own, but I try to speak generally about water bodies and bass behavior. So, they will still be relevant. Looks like a good week ahead weather-wise so I plan to hit the water. Here's to good fishing! Cheers, Paul
My night just got so much better. Thank you again sir
Hey, Johnny. Happy to hear that! :) Paul
The information you gave was so necessary and very appreciated! Great explanation as to why the fish behavior during the Fall! Thanks for posting. 🎣
Hi, Stan. Each water is different but the same general stuff happens on all, and the change is esp intense in the north. Paul
Hello Paul! I was commenting on a guy’s page who is into fishing tournaments over in Florida about your info and he’s commented back about how he’s been checking out your channel for quite some time now. I’m in Mississippi and he’s from Florida and in the Southern Region, the Florida F1 strain bass are what’s in the majority of the waters. If you ever have the time, will you do one(or a series) of your great informative sessions? Thank you Sir!
Hi, Stan. Will try. Thanks. Paul
Paul, you're my favorite channel on UA-cam. Ain't trying to sell me shit! Ain't showing off your $50K bass boat, $70k truck & $200k garage! No drones, no challenges, no ridiculous ulterior motives. Salesman Stink! Just knowledge, information to help me become a better fisherman provided in a common sense manner. Thank you!! P.S. I'm not going to fault you for making some extra $$$ but the proof is in the pudding. 7 baits before you tried the fluke, and then you stuck with that! Slayed them, damn, an affiliate link would make huge sense!
Hi, super. No, I will never try to sell you shit. :)) You mean you're not impressed with my belly boat? :)) I've looked into affiliate links, just neeed the time to do it. Not likely much money to be made there, as most items I'd link to are not big ticket items... like 50K boats, ... But, people will want to know what I used. That can get rather detailed actually. Thanks for the wonderful comment, and the suggestion. Cheers, Paul
What an excellent VFJ. So much great information and documentation. Thank you Paul. What do mean when you say “I’m not going to pump you”?? Do you know how much food a LMB must consume for survival? I would imagine it’s a percentage of body mass.
Hi, WWF. Thanks. Glad to hear. I would like to document more stomach contents in bass. But, want to be judicious as it could add to the stress of being caught and handled. The fish in this pond are almost certainly sunfish hunters, so I don't really need to pump them. Fish can go for some time without food, and many get thin over summer, with high metabolic demands of high water temps. I'm not concerned that pumping would starve a fish. If so, then there is a bigger problem going on in that pond. Still, if I have a thin fish, I'm less apt to pump it. Paul
Another great vid!!! Thx for the content Paul, keep em comin!
Hi, Wes. Thanks.
Love this channel, wish you would put out some new stuff. Was curious why you handle your fish so much. I try to hold the bottom jaw and never touch the body. Just curious. Hope you plan on continuing to keep this channel going.
Hi, Surfcat. Thanks. I love it too!
First, gently handling a healthy fish is aok. I handle them bc I want to see them and learn about them. And I recapture individuals pretty commonly. The one thing I am most careful about is unhooking. It does take special attention.
As to getting back into production… My life has taken some turns that have me occupied elsewhere. Would love to be back in the saddle again. So looking forward to it. Best, Paul
Hey Paul! Great Journal! I fished Stone Mountain Lake last night, its a old rock quarry with some vegetation thats difficult to access with out being in my yak. Usually craws perform well in the rocky areas but last night the fluke/caffeine shad style plastic were the producers. I failed to catch a temp reading, i thought i forgot my thermometer but it was hiding. Weightless and at a pause/fall is when they hit, too. I selected the swim style as the bait fish were pushed up against bank and kinda skiddish so.. Ive been using temp to guess DO content. Its been a brutally hot summer and long and i THINK the bass are just now becoming more in feeding mode with water temps dropping and DO increasing. I want to locate other water nearby to put this vegetation knowledge to work. But that might be next spring...unless i head to south Ga or Fla. I sure do enjoy your very informative Journals!! Thanks!!! I know it labor and time intensive!
Hi, Michael. You're in GA? Curious, do you not have weedy waters? Or, have they been dying back? I'm pretty much in Winter here now. It's come early this year, or maybe... back on schedule for this year. Going to leave my Fall Transition pond behind for now, and move on to other (weedy) waters. If I get the chance, I'd like to hit some less weedy waters too, like I usually do come Winter. But, that'll depend on the weather; Ice-up may not be far off. Good to hear your fishing is picking up. Paul
Yes, Paul, Im in Ga. We have tons of weedy areas, it that SML is close by, like 20 min depending on traffic. Its a 350+/- acre quarry. Mostly solid rock bottom. So most catching is close to banks and shallow. Ive caught them all over the lake, but mostly along banks as thats where the only cover/structure is. The deeper sections are barren as theres nothing for plants to grow in. We have lots of other lakes that do contain vegetation/flooded timber. All our lakes are man made too. (FYI) Some are great, but none are are in top 10 or 20 best rated bass fishing locations nationally. Go figure...but we have trout fishing in Mts!! ;-)
These videos are fantastic. Thank you! In fishing your laboratory pond, have you noted any "ancestral memory" on the part of the bass? E.g.: you fish chartreuse crank baits for years and generations of fish and have success, but as several generations come and go, the effectiveness of that color gradually diminishes?
Hi, Matt. Thanks. Great to hear. No, I haven't seen anything like that that would span generations. That would be mighty tough to discern, owing to all the other variables in fishing, and changes that occur over years.
There is research though that has found both short term (within season) and long-term generational changes in catchability or what’s called “vulnerability to angling”. Basically fish do learn on the short term (and quickly), and generational changes have been documented in terms of “personality” alterations in a population over time (evolution working at the population level).
I have seen bass, and other species, “turn off” to specific lures upon repeated casting, they basically learning that that object is “not food”. And others nearby can learn this too by seeing fish turn off to a lure. Many times I’ve had fish turn off, switch a lure, or color, and get hit again. In one particular instance (with walleyes) I learned to lay out a half dozen different lures in front of me and go through each one, as each in turn stopped catching.
Fish are individuals, too, some more vulnerable to angling than others; Some caught repeatedly, others never! Some have a penchant for certain lures, and may be caught repeatedly on a lure type, sometimes a year or more apart.
In general though, I’d not get too bogged down by such thoughts. Knowing how seasons, conditions & circumstances, affect fish is the thing to track. While “fishing pressure” does have some effects -mostly short term- I suspect that “fishing pressure” is over-rated. That lure that everyone says doesn’t work anymore, almost certainly will, given the right C&C.
That’s my take at this point. Hope it helps, or gives you some stuff to chew on.
Best,
Paul
do you ever fish the fluke like or jerkbait or usually just reel it ?
Hi, FwF. Yes, I do fish them fast, darting. But I've found that when the fish are responding better to a slower presentation, like during the early fall weed die-off, fishing a soft jerk on the fall is simply killer. This video shows it pretty well I think, or I tried to show that. Speed aroused some interest, and brought some follows. But pausing brought the committed strikes. Oh... the "just reeling" you are seeing takes advantage of the way this bait is rigged, allowing it to swim side-to-side sinuously. So, in that shallow water above those weeds I used that sinuous motion and took advantage of the surface film (an "ambush point") to attract bass. The fall sealed the deal.
@@thenatureoffishing7591 ok thank you for the response and sharing all of your knowledge!
Do you credit the greener vegetation for harboring the fish due to a slightly higher O2 level? Or just easier to hide in ?
Hi, Bruce. Green vegetation has several pluses: produces/holds food, oxygen (if needed), and tends to infer better water quality. But, as I mentioned in the video, prominant "objects" are important enough that even dead weeds can hold bass. As to hiding in... that's a good question. If there is 02 depletion, a dead dense bed would likely be inhospitable, esp overnight.
This might be part of the deal on this particular "Laboratory" pond, being such a dish-pan, so shallow, and usually with very clear water. I was there today, working on the 3rd video in this series (following plummeting water temps) and with normal high clarity back, there is no other place to hide but within that wall to wall carpet of weeds with 2-3ft of clear water above. There is no deep water to feel safe in. Makes things darn tough on sunny days.
Prominant weed clumps, live or dead, has been key in this pond. It's getting tough now though, with diminishing returns, and I may just get smart and move on to a different pond. Staying with the densely vegetated waters theme though; At least for the time being. It's fun trying to figure them out. My previous Winter vids were done in "swimming pools". Kindof looking forward to getting back to one of those too. Cheers, Paul
@@thenatureoffishing7591 Thanks for your correspondence. I know the challenges of clear water & blue bird sunny days very well living in AZ. My local fisheries consists of rip rap bottoms with submerged sage brush. Little grass. Fish are definitely earned now till about March. An idea for a "puff piece", I'm curious to see exactly what happens when a baitcaster backlashes. Maybe a dedicated go pro & a slo mo view of the spool would make an insightful short video? Just a thought. Thx again buddy, I enjoy the scientific approach of your vids. Tight lines
Yeah, I hear you. Brush/wood is tough; Probably can't go too light in tackle there. I end up using 4 and 6lb lines (.008, .009) in my swimming pool ponds (no cover). Been trying to figure out Winter in my heavily weeded ponds this year though. Using 6 to 10 there. Luckily, the bass aren't as fast, and tire quicker, in such cold water. Trick is finding them, and getting them to bite. Thinking of changing "Lab" ponds for the Winter. I need a bigger population than the one I've been fishing this fall.
As far as backlashing goes, I believe the spool continues to spit line but that isn't taken out fast enough by the decelerating lure. The line coming off the spool has nowhere to go. So it creates wide loose loops. One or more of these can bunch up behind the line guide, or contact the reel frame, creating a back-winding loop. Either way, your cast stops dead, and you have to pull out the crossing loops, and pick out the back-wound loops, so you can lay it all down neatly again. Hope that helps. A slo-mo of a backlash would be pretty cool to see. not to mention give me the heeby-jeebies!
Good luck with your AZ winter bass. Paul
Hey bro what size under weight hook are you using an what size weight is it
I can only find those hooks that have twist ons so do you just clip the twist on off?
Hi, lazo. For this 5" bait (Big Bites Jerk Minnow) I use a #3/0 Owner Rig-n Hook. Exact hook may vary for different baits though. Not much added weight is needed, esp with the Rig-n hook since it's got fairly heavy wire. I've gone to using Storm SuspenStrips for added weight. They are adhesive and you just roll em on, or off. Each weigh 1/128oz. and I'll use one or two on the Rig-n hook. This for that slow tantalizing fall. If I want fast darts up high I use no strips and may use a lighter wire hook. Hope this helps. Paul
@@thenatureoffishing7591 thank you for this information brother God bless. Your videos have taught me to fish for bass an not get skunked you are my teacher for fishing like God is my teacher for living.god bless you bro you don't have to be sharing all this info with us but you do because you are a humble man of God.
@@thenatureoffishing7591 hey bro what fish finder do you recommend for a kayak
Hi, Freddy. I'm using an older color 2D unit. There's a lot of new tech out there now that I do not own, so I'm not the best one to recommend. Do some research, ons of info out there. Find something in your price range and go to it. All sonar tech is helpful. I made good use of rotary flashers back in the day. Paul
What company makes that fluke color bro
The one in the video is made by Big Bites, also "made by" Jann's Netcraft Dominator series. I don't care too much about color, but I tend toward two-tone baitfish colors.