E-Flite Turbo Timber Evolution 3D & Bush Flying Demo
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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We had a blast documenting the flying capabilities of the E-Flite Turbo Timber Evolution 1.5m. She’s a proven back-country bush flying and mild 3D flight capable design with some updated features we were happy to see incorporated in the new model.
Do you enjoy flying your Horizon Hobby Timber? Let us know! 🛩☁
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We fly our Turbo Timber Evolution fully stock minus a simple change: a 13x4 two bladed prop with the spinner from the original red timber. This prop truly increases the power-to-weight and reduces the strain on both the motor and ESC. We tested several different props alongside the stock 3-bladed 11x7 for full throttle static thrust and what they each pulled at this power setting on the ground.
-Stock 11x7: 52 amps
-12x6: 45 amps
-12x8: 52 amps
-13x4: 41 amps
The 13x4 was the clear winner in that it provided the lowest load on the electronics but with the larger diameter allowed for great vertical lines and a decent punch out of hovering. We have our timer set at 5:30 on the throttle timer, fly it hard 3D/acro and land with 3.8-3.9 volts per cell. This is light years better than the original blue Turbo Timber.
Our set up:
- Battery (affiliate link): rcbattery.com/...
-AR620 SMART Receiver (no AS3X/SAFE) with reverse thrust set up
-Moved all control linkages to the furthest out hole on the servo arms and closest in on the control arms for max mechanical deflection
-Battery as far back as it will go (aft strap is wrapped around the very front end of the battery)
-13x4 APC thin electric two blade prop
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Happy Landings! Fly outside the box. 📦✈
Wow, this is my kind of flying. I love the realistic bush flying with an rc bush plane.
Also thanks for sharing your setup and prop testing results. 👍🏻😁🛩️
Thank you! No problem, hope it helps.
That was unreal to watch. I've just started with a Apprentice STS 1.5. Hope to improve my skills to fly like you. Great Job!
Awesome video and flying man ! I’ve thought about getting this 1.5m Timber. Used my Timber X like crazy. It’s falling apart 🤣
Wow you are an incredible pilot. That was crazy Great Job, Best flight video on the Timber I have seen so far.
YAY ITS HERE!!!
That's what I call great flying
Well done!! Gonna try a bit of that!!
great flying skillz
Nice flying!
That was great! You guys make me want to get one of those. I didn't know the TT Evo was so capable!
Best flight video on the Timber I have seen so far, I have been looking to get one. This video sealed the deal. Did not know it had that much power and large flight envelope, even a bit of 3D.
Was about to ask if it was stock and just read the description on the prop change.
Great flying. It's a blast to fly...
Standing O 👏 👏 👏
I flew my umx turbo timber when it was foggy wet and and and a little rainy i even landed in a puddle of mud😅 this plane is so impressive for its size
That’s the best iv ever seen anyone fly the evo yet. I always wondered how well it might hold a hover/torque roll
Thank you! She hovers great.
I bought a t evo as my first trainer/sport flyer and was always hoping to start light 3D with it as I progress.It was after that I saw your older video of timber x bush flying. Seeing that video made me instantly regret the evo over the x. After seeing this video all regrets have gone.
@@katrinatrafford5104 I’m glad we were able to sell you on keeping your TTE! You’ll have no problems progressing with it. The other video of ours you saw wasn’t actually a Timber X. It was the original red Timber. We prefer the regular Timbers and turbo/TTE over the X. :-)
@@TailHeavyProductions can I ask you something please. So the tte has quite a slow roll speed. Does the original timber take the same amount of time to do the same left roll, right roll? You say max throw always no matter what, does this mean you also got to the wing servos to do so on the tte ailerons ? Have you managed to speed up its roll rate at all? Just wondered, I’m guessing with the tte having quite a large wing area you can’t make much difference but it does have me wondering as my tte takes enough time to roll right over. Thanks
@@katrinatrafford5104 The OG red Timber, blue Turbo Timber, and TTE all have the same wing, and all have the same roll authority for the most part. It's a longer wing span with smaller aileron surfaces on these Timbers so a slower roll rate, yep. We just maxed out our roll servo travel and left it at that. If you're looking for a snappy roll rate, these planes aren't gonna be your best bet. We enjoy the modest roll because it keeps you on your toes and challenges you more.
Guys I’m so dang glad to have found this channel all the years here and just now finding kinda upsetting but I must say you guys have gave me the want to get back in the sky’s again and have fun. I fell into the trap of more worrying about crashing and that removes the fun. Time to get back to just flying after all it’s a toy and it’s all fun right 💪 keep everything up guys y’all killing it
We're so happy to hear you're getting back into it! That's what flying is all about - having fun, trying new things, and going outside your comfort zone. Don't get trapped in the box...fly outside it! 😁📦✈
@@TailHeavyProductions you guys rock! Charging up a old dhc2 beaver now for some stol fun out back
So cool!
Awesome!
Wow that was sick. Been a long time since I have seen an RC air edit this nice.
Thank you! Feel free to give some of our other content a peak, would love your thoughts! Our goal is to produce videos that we would personally enjoy watching ourselves that promote aviation and our awesome hobby. -Ben
Love your videos. your guys awesome work getting me so excited😃
I’m a very new Rc pilot👨✈️ 🛩
About 50 hours on sim and 2 hours in the sky!! 1 hour on Hobbyking Walrus (glider) and 1 on my new Volantex Trainstar Ascent! Can wait to be as good as you so I can start my bush flying adventures 🛩😀 thanks for all your inspiring stuff👍
Thank you! Welcome to the hobby! 😁
Nice flying,
My biggest issue with my TTE is getting the darn thing down, it just wants to float forever. I'm running a 4 cell 3300mAh pack just to add weight and try to get it to sink as I have having to dive it to the ground then try to scrub speed (nice slip on a couple landings scrubbing speed).
I'll give my 2200mAh packs a try one of these days.
Also like the 13x4, I'll give that one a ty on the watt meter and see if I like the performance.
I just put the floats on mine for winter snow flying but haven't been flying for a couple weeks due to -30C temps here. The floats worked great on my Timber-X last winter though so expect the same on this plane.
Thanks! You WANT airplanes to be light, not be heavy. I’d strongly suggest against purposely adding weight to any airplane. Try getting closer to the backside of the power curve on final and slowing down your approach speed/AOA. It should be more than manageable. Floating is caused by excess speed on final.
@@TailHeavyProductions I only add weight as battery capacity when I feel the airframe has plenty of wing and power to carry it, never lead unless there are no other options.
Slow speed and power curve are no problem if I have a long clear approach, I can float it in hanging it off the prop at walking speed, it's just those tight landings it's hard to drop altitude quick then get rid of the speed to be able to get it back into a nose high attitude without gaining a bunch of altitude back. The plane just floats too well, lol.
@CR5 We’ve found forward slips work great for that exact scenario. 😁 Happy flying man! Thanks for the comments
That was some very impressive STOL/Bush flying. I am surprised you didn't have the slats on which, except for the hovering, would I believe have improved the STOL/Bush performance of the TTE.
Thank you! Every Timber we've owned we have never used the slats for two reasons.
1: They are useless added weight (in the business of defying gravity - save any and every gram you can)
2: Aero engineering perspective. At the reynolds number of an R/C airplane wing (take a peek at reynolds number online if you aren't familiar), slats are practically useless and don't make any noticeable difference in slow flight characteristics like slats would on a full-scale sized wing. With small R/C wings, what makes a difference for STOL is increased camber, NOT adding slats. We have flight tested timbers flying them the same way in this video with and without slats. We didn't feel or notice any improvement and thus decided to save the weight.
Thanks for watching!
@@TailHeavyProductions Thanks for the info even though most of it went over my head.
Turbo Timber I was given has the slats on so that's all I know. On my UMX turbo Timber I'm currently flying without the slats because I broke them in a crash and removed them. Except for inverted I like the way my UMX turbo Timber flew with the slats.
@@BillKisel No problem! Take a look at some articles online on reynolds number as well as articles on camber and how it can affect flight characteristics. We are planning to dig a bit deeper into these topics in some future videos on bush flying though, so stay tuned!
I added the slats to my Timber-X and noticed a drastic decrease in flight speed, most maneuvering was unaffected for the most part. Inverted needs a little more down elevator, slow speed may be a little more stable, hard to say for sure.
I recently added the slats to the Turbo Timber Evo, again flight speed is reduced, and unsure about any improvement in low speed handling. It always came in at walking speed so it's hard to judge if there was a real improvement.
For me it was just the increase in drag, if you watch my videos of the TTE you'll see me needing reverse to get it stopped before the end of my flying area, I haven't got a fresh video with the slats but I'm now getting it on the ground and stopped in about 2/3 the distance I needed before.
@CR5 Nice! Yeah we still believe based on how wings work at this small of a wing size that they aren’t worth adding and don’t do much at all. Keep the plane light. Our video should prove that.
Checked out your video: nice flying! You definitely should be able to stop without reverse there. Just try and work on nailing starting a stable approach at a comfortable slow speed and keep it there the entire way down. Fun stuff to practice! Happy Landings! 😀
Just... take my money!
UA-cam suggests this on the day I replace my entire wing sections. How do they know? :)
So how good is that Timber Evolution actually? I recently bought Eflite's V1200! and I am loving that thing! looks like thisone is a ton of fun too!!!
She’s a tried and true and freshly updated machine.
Love the video! And question from a newer pilot: It sounds like you’re adjusting the trim right before you land- why is that?
Thanks! My timer is set to turn on when above 25% throttle, and to turn off when below 25%. The beeping you're hearing is the sound it makes when I move the throttle above or below 25% if that makes sense. -Zach
Ah. Makes sense. I have the NX8 and I think mine does the same thing but also the same beep for adjusting the trim. I guess I just don’t notice it when I’m moving the throttle around.
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Do you have the APC part number for the prop, I can't find one that has both thin and electric in the description.
Thanks
That may have been a mistake on our part - it just needs to be a 13x4 two blade electric prop. Have fun!
Awesome thanks a bunch 👍🏻
That's some pretty nice flying, right there. The real question is, how many Timbers were killed in the making of this video? ;-) Very well done.
Thank you! Only one Timber was used :-) Stay tuned for some out-takes eventually 😁
Excellent!
Good landing 1:37
What spinner did you guys use to make the 2 blade prop fit?
Nice
Wow you are an incredible pilot.
Someday I wish I was half as good
Does the two bladed prop work better than the three bladed prop 🤔
100% and it’s more efficient too (13x4). Check out the description for full details
Great flying. I wish I had a 5th of your skills. Absolutely awesome mate. How long you been flying ?
Haha thank you! Since 2008 😀👍
@@TailHeavyProductions only got another 13.5years of catching up. Lol. Keep safe.
This is so cool. I noticed you got a 2 bladed prop on. What size prop are you using?
I just read the description. Im gonna try flying with the prop and spinner from my timber x.
It had scary good throttle response. I was taxiing. I’m used to a bit of delay when I bump the throttle to get over bumps in the grass. But it almost hit my friend because I wasn’t ready for the acceleration. 😂
Me running to the hobbyshop to get a new prop and batterys
What brand of 4 s battery's do yall rum in the plane. Awesome flying video
Amazing skills and no fear flying sir! Im wondering what you think about doing this with a Durafly Tundra on 4s?
Thanks! In our experience, Tundras do not have the power to weight to do any form of a decent hover. Also, the plain flaps as opposed to slotted flaps don’t give it as good of control on the slower end of things. If you tried to replicate this video 1:1 with a Tundra, you’d end up needing some hot glue.
@@TailHeavyProductions Well that explains it! Yeah the tundra is such a good scale and fun flyer but it just doesn't seem like it can do the 3D stuff (Im not skilled enough to find out) Thanks for the confirmation and the excellent content!!
what this plane is supposed to be flown like.
Wondering what all the beeping is. Are you trimming it always when flying like that?
My timer is set to turn on when above 25% throttle, and to turn off when below 25%. The beeping you're hearing is the sound it makes when I move the throttle above or below 25% if that makes sense. I've since turned that annoying function off. LOL. -Zach
@@TailHeavyProductions Okay I thought that's what it might have been. BTW your video and flying is beyond amazing.
this is sick. im about to pull the trigger on this plane. is the stock prop no good? what else have you modded?
Thanks, Sean! Check out the video description for full info and be sure to check out our full review on the plane, too, titled "Turbo Timber Evolution: YOU Complained. Horizon Listened." - Zach
Great flying you inspired me to buy one! With the control arms did you move the ailerons into the inner most hole as well, so you need to cut the decal and access under the cover? - thanks
Awesome! I did not change anything with the ailerons. -Zach
can it do unlimited vertical?
This is so awesome man! Nice one. Like real bush flying.. What's the beeping that sounds like you're trimming?
Thank you! I've since turned that off after being asked about it haha. It's my timer that's set to my throttle. Any time my throttle moves above or below 25% power, the timer beeps on or off. -Zach
@@TailHeavyProductions Ah ok. Nice one. Good skills.
Re your comments about slats, you think the slotted flaps on the Turbo Timber are better than simple flaps?
Slotted flaps are always going to give you a better end product than plain flaps for sure. On a deeper level, it's allowing high pressure air from the bottom of the wing to flow through the slot in the flap to the upper surface air which helps delay separation on the boundary layer of the wing. More lift without a ton of drag, unlike a plain flap that gives more drag than overall added lift. -Zach
Thank you Zach. You fellows are terrific, you freely inspire by the dollop load
Amazing flights dude!!👍👍👍😎👍👍👍 BTW Did you or any of your friends ever get to fly a Timber X or the OMPHobby Big Horn yet???
Thank you! We had a Timber X and got rid of it after 2 weeks. As with full scale, when manufacturers try to blend too many missions into one plane (bush flying + full 3D) that was truly only best equipped for one (bush flying), it begins to lack flying wise in one or the other. "Jack of all trades master of none" definitely applies in aviation, too! We prefer the pure bush variant for that reason. -Zach
@@TailHeavyProductions Ok then Zach thanks for the quick reply but how about the OMPHOBBY Big Horn?-Efree😁😁
So what is a better bush plane the timber x or the torbo timber evolution?
@@corey_mcgee4114 the one that was designed specifically for it: the Evolution.
Hey dude, what do you do for waterproofing your planes? i Know the ESC on this guy is sealed, but what about receiver? servos? Motor?
Nada, zilch, cero, zero. 😁 Never had issues either with how and where we operate our planes too.
@@TailHeavyProductions Damn, thats insane. I guess it really depends how deep the water gets into the plane and servos. What about the fun cub when you dunk it in water?? Also, when you guys ream out your props, are you using a prop reamer tool? or just a drill bit? If so, what size to fit on the shaft of the turbo timber.
Great flying! Which is the better bush plane, the Evo or the X?
Evo 100% - Zach
@@TailHeavyProductions Thanks, ive had 3 Timber X now and couldnt see much difference against the first Turbo Timber but being an occasional flyer its not always easy to be objective - or even correct - with my assumptions. Common sense tells me the Evo's span will give it the edge but the X has that longer chord. Looks like I am 'doomed' to fly Timbers for the rest of my days. Might try the night Timber next.
Have you guys tried the timber x 1.2?
We sure have - not super fans of it. In our eyes, better to be a master of one trade than a jack of all. In other words, trying to blend a 3D bird with a high wing back country tailwheel design turned it into something that we ultimately didn't have fun with. It was also quite heavy for what it was. -Zach
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That's beautiful scenery! Where are you guys at? Reminds me of back home in Michigan.
This was filmed in Washington state. 👍
Where can I get the prop
Check out the video description 👍
The colour grading though -
How about water skiing that bird?
Now that's an idea!
@@TailHeavyProductions Go for it you have the MAD BUSH FLYING SKILL to pull it off....TY for responding to my comment..Lee