I played a team in trials twice yesterday who had snipers, and when they ran out of sniper bullets they swapped to Le Monarque. I never wanted equipment lock to be back so badly in my life
Yeah that’s annoying. The flip side of that is….you run into people running cheese > your loadouts don’t counter the cheese well > can’t change > are now fucked.
equipment lock needs to really be a thing. I had an idea that once the first team gets to 3 wins, both teams can change equipment between rounds. That way there is still skill in making adjustments, but also opens the door for a little bit of a chess match of guessing what adjustments your opponents will make and rolling the dice on countering their adjustments. Seems like a good idea to me
Mitchell Guntrum Definitely like this better than an outright lock. Maybe equipment unlocks when the eliminated/victory banner pops up at the end of a round.
Saw a lot of people like the longer format but I personally like these 9-11 or 12 minute vids. Unless its for a tourney or something, then the sky is the limit(make it a day long and ill still watch that)
Noted! I’ll keep the shorter ones + more double uploads then! I just wanted to test some new things before the 7th to see what people like and seems the 10-15 min mark is the best
@@benstanfill363 remember you can alway put it at 1.25x or 1.5x speed, that way you can still watch a full video even if it is a little longer than 15min
It's funny that I have a friend who is not the best player but when he is using Le Monarque I just can't do anything unless I'm using sniper. But my friend try to use normal weapons he seems to be missing a pair of hands.
@@pluto3194 I have one Ghost in the Night and at least half the kills were people that were AFK and it's still my highlight. That and being randomly able to pull off 3 V 1s in Trials.
@@campolo313 I have a handful of those but that's because they're stupid easy in Momentum Control. Here's something I think is cool though, when trials first released in D1, my very first match I ended up getting a ghost.
That's one the most brainless ability in the game, they all have stupid crayon abilities idk why, I guess one of the CEO at bungie play titan.... Is so stupid dude.
@@LiVeS-qn5be I would argue that the least mobile and clunky class is an easy counter with dodge and stompee double jump. Wallah sitting in one spot while ads is what got him killed
As much as people hate going against it, I just love the aesthetic of playing with it on Nightstalker. Makes me feel like a ninja, as a Hunter should feel like
It's so weird I never thought I'd be seeing bows of all weapons to be hated. As a generally regular bow user I find that it's more of an up hill battle if you lose your rhythm and find people who exploit that draw time.
The idea of being taken to half, or as is the case with Monarque, one HP instantly by a gun with infinite ammo? It’s really annoying. Combine it with insane aim assist and hitboxes and you got the recipe for a hated weapon. It doesn’t help that you can basically instakill people with quickswitches.
A good Le Monarque user will just absolutely shit on your life. It takes whatever good feeling you were having and crushes it out of pure, disgusting hatred.
With the exotic arms you're using you see the arms light up in sync with the bow being drawn. Really nice touch with the design. It's subtle and you have to be looking at the arms to see it, but nice none the less
Furthering my first comment about Le Monarque is my favorite weapon in Destiny 2, Bows in general are my favorite way to play the game. PVE, and PvP I use them for everything. Nothing in the game can out burst damage a bow in speed and accuracy at any distance. This is of course taking Heavy out of the equation. Whether you're using a Legendary w/ Quick Access Sling and a exotic HC or going with Le Monarque and a Legendary Handcannon the time to kill is absolutely unparalleled. But there are different ways to play a bow. Either quick swapping or bow main or even bow midrange. Quick swapping is arguably the best, especially against uncoordinated teams. But when playing against smart opponents or in Trials etc. The midrange game is absolutely phenomenal. Pair a legendary bow such as Point of the Stag, or Wolftone with a Handcannon like Crimson, Hawkmoon or Ace and you'll have a high burst DPS at all ranges while specialized in that midrange fluctuating engagements. Challenge snipers with the bow and anything else in Scout / Pulse range. Use your quick swapping for rushing apes and fusions, and lastly utilize the exotic Handcannon of choice for close engagements/midrange control. I especially love Bow/Crimson builds. High DPS, high burst, health regen, ammo economy, flinch machine, excellent range across all playing fields and very easy to challenge just about any other weapon in the game. Le Monarque on middle tree Gunslinger procs the constant dodge spam when hitting its poison arrows. That coupled with Wormhusk makes for absurd health regen and sustainability. Honestly I use a bow for every single engagement. PVE I'm using Ticcus for nearly everything, PvP I like to experiment with different builds but Le Monarque is supreme. The only thing I really fear is Lorentz Driver and Chaperone. Those two weapons can and will decimate you in most of your effective ranges varying on playstyle so watch out for them. Other than that have fun, bows are the best weapons in Destiny and the most fun in my opinion. But you really have to commit to the bow life.
I usually run a bow with either ophidian aspect and a hip-fire hand canon for the quick swaps or I use emp rift for the lemon arc headshots it's like a sniper with infinite ammo
I prefer using my 576 DT Wolftone Draw over Le Monarque(cause I despise it), I absolutely love using bows but what I usually pair with it is a Heritage with high handling. I’d say the caveat bow users suffer from are the fact one has to figure out to prioritize high damage for close quarters(shotgun) or prioritize being able to handle close to medium range engagements(sidearms and handcannons).
Same. My 576 Wolftone has Impulse Amplifier and Harmony. I pair with Crimson so when I get a kill I heal and my next arrow does more damage (one shot with both harmony and high energy fire). Perfect for when you're outnumbered. When you kill one, they assume you're weak and will push as you heal from the crimson kill. Plus crimson reloads on precision kills
I'd say Monarque is till the king (its in the name after all) for any competitive scenario. The poison is amazing. The added damage without having to proc a damage perk is very useful. The lightweight frame with the precision frame damage profile is spectacular. The drawtime is a decent chunk slower, and no Icarus Grip, is the only thing letting the legendary bows stay in the same league.
Le Monarque is singlehandedly my favorite weapon in the game. As a bow main, I'll never stop loving and using it. I absolutely can't wait for a Catalyst.
Yeah I need to get the wish ender bow quest done. Have not found anyone to run it with yet hopefully one day I can get it and my bow 🏹🏹 collection will be complete
If you really want to be annoying in Trials pair this with a Lonesome sidearm with Killclip and top tree Nightstalker. If you want to just go all out use Graviton Forfeit as your exotic as well. It’s annoying as heck to push against someone who is good with this setup. It dominates at long range, can shred at close range, and even can trade fairly well at mid-range duels.
I just started playing bow after hating them since I started playing last summer. The current content drought forced me to finally finish Ticcu’s Divination catalyst. I’ve enjoyed it so much that I masterworked an Oathbringer. Once I’m done with my catalyst, I’ll definitely be giving monarque a hard play. Your video comes at the perfect time. You’ve got such great angles and you don’t use shotgun. Great stuff to digest with this vid. Keep up the great work with the variety!
A helpful tip is if u get caught in close range, a fully drawn body shot from lemon arc (101 dmg) plus a melee (100 dmg) will kill as well. It's possible to not even use a shotgun because of that com(bow)
I have been doing this since lemonarch dropped and 120s were still 110s (I used a qd 110 hc called Home For The Lost) I hope the exposure of this loadout doesn't get it nerfed because I legitimately have been doing this for like 2+ years and it's JUST now getting widely noticed within the community
Same I used to use a forge 110 that had either hip-fire grip or qd I don't remember exactly which. But I used to head shot with lemon arc and quick swap to the HC for a body shot clean up. It was and still is glorious to see that ttk
I've been enjoying LeMonarque with Blade Barrage. The poison counts for the dodge recharge perk and the knives are great for close range clean up since you only need to land one to the head.
This one is on the "how does this uses primary ammo?" exotic club. I legitimaly consider this bow an instant S-tier in pvp. It's like Zen's orb of discord from Overwatch, you mark someone and your team is gonna melt them. Near guaranteed kill with decent coordination.
People get irrationally heated whenever this bow comes up, it's hilarious. A good sniper user will make it extremely difficult to do well though, but the average player won't have a good time Edit: also yeah cwl does 1 tap all resilience with lemon
I have a friend I always 1v1 who loves this thing. Bite of the fox and igneous hammer or multimach are the only weapons that I consistently out duel the lemon with. Thing is crazy
yes a good sniper, but a good bow user does not exist because of how much aim assist they have. Bows probably are the least skilled weapon in the game.
@@jaydenharrison1436 mmmm no. It is not easy to do well with a bow. That high aim assist also has the slowest ttk in the game. By this logic, one is never skilled with handcannons because they have high aim assist AND competitive ttk.
Only major downside of using a bow: you miss out on a one hit kill special. I mean, sure you could run a sniper or shotgun, but then you don’t really have a primary to duel with.
Le Monarque is good but I prefer a kinetic legendary bow with explosive head and quick access sling and pairing that with Sunshot or pali. But a bow and a HC dexterity on the arms is great. I find oath keepers kinda pointless but knucklehead radar... It's toxic. I love this loadout personally but I do swap to a shotgun depending on the map. I also sometimes run this with contingency plan and that's a lot of fun as well. I am glad bows are getting love though
@@comradecat3629 I've also heard stuff about FPS affecting lunge abilities, specifically sword lunges. Seems likely, since my prebuilt PC isn't exactly a powerhouse.
Hey Wallah, I know you’ve made a lot of fusion rifle videos already but I’d like to suggest using the Cartesian coordinate. Rapid fires did get buffed and I think you’ll be surprised at what Cartesian can do
Others have made that video already it's the fastest an strongest dps weapon with particle deconstruction an can allow for one phase on any boss takes less then 15seconds to kill any raid boss if your whole team has cartiseans. You want it with feeding frenzy an vorpal I normally do over 2 Mill damage against bosses.
And yes, absolutely CWL works with bows. You want all the typical CWL mods so make sure you have High Energy Fire on as well (not that I need to tell you that lol) but you will one tap with bows when charged appropriately.
You'll 1 tap with Le Monarque. Not sure about wish ender. But no other bow without also adding another damage perk will 1 tap a guardian (unless there is some low light shenanigans, or the bow is leviathan's breathe...)
@@tacoboy2218 yeah that's why I mentioned the legendary bows needing a charged with light and another damage perk to 1 tap (or swash x5 on the biting winds or ramp X3 on the accrued redemption).
I won't lie, I sometimes use this with oath keepers and I deserve all the hate I get. It's honestly ridiculous for anything, 6v6, 3v3 and ffa. Expecially when you have good teammates who can clean up really well this thing is unstoppable
@@Jmanfire2105 Bold of you to assume they wouldn't be at the back of the map *AND* behind teammates where only a sniper would reach them. They're always with teammates for easy clean ups because if someone even breathes on you their bow one shots 😂
@@vyx6005 Oh yeah I’m gonna take the one bow that entirely encourages aggressive play and camp at the back of the map. I get being annoyed having to deal with it, but at least be realistic. Basically nobody who uses Le Monarque plays like that.
@@Jmanfire2105 yes they do. Not everyone plays it the way wallah does. Lol look at how Mr Fruit played it in his trials vid. It's the strongest bow in the game, of course some use it in the back
@@vyx6005 yeah SOME. People keep acting like it’s this godly weapon that you can do anything with, and oddly enough I see more people using trace rifles than Le Monarque. I legit haven’t even seen a single person use it all week, and even in the past when I do, there is almost no reason someone would camp at the back of the map with it, which reflects in game because _basically nobody uses Le Monarque like a sniper rifle at the back of the map because it does not have the range required to do that and is entirely designed to encourage you to be aggressive_
If you ask me, Monarque is really annoying, but it only becomes a true problem when used with quickswapping. IMO, any gun that can do 100+ damage in a single shot on any range should be unable to benefit or be combined with quick switching of any variety. That means bows and GLs especially.
Nice vid Wallah. This is basically my build when I have to sweat. Personally I'm partial to the 140s for the swap. Throw on explosive payload so they can kinda function if you get pushed too aggressively. It's a hell of a build.
Tbh for pvp if you are quick swapping to HC, I think Wolftone Draw with impulse/harmony and quick access sling might actually be slightly better than LM since harmony can lead to 1 taps on the bow after a HC cleanup leading to some nasty kill chains.
How do you do the grenade animation cancel? I've noticed it in several videos now. Also the first person hunter dodge. Idk if you did it in this video but I've noticed it before and I did it on accident once but have no idea how.
the funniest part of Le Monarque is once one person in the lobby starts doing well with it, a lot of the time you'll start seeing almost everyone use it lol.
A strat ny friends and I enjoy is 2 monarchs and one lumina. Lumina is clean up master and with the catalyst he gets 2 buffs. Conveniently enough to buff both bows with enough to one shot anyone…
Why do streamers keep making videos of builds they hate and wonder why the community is using them more often than ever. I've mastered the bow handcannon build since forsaken, can't put it down, love it too much, as a casual player who doesn't have alot of time to play I can really hold my ground against those sweats who play for 16 hours a day like a job. Thank you Bungie.
Maaaad downplaying the role a quickdraw kinetic hand cannon plays in this working. Mained Monarque since Black Armory on titan and without the mobility to ezpz dip out of failed engagements and the hunter jump/ icarus dash to approach well from the air (and disengage) it's actually a pretty harsh playstyle. You have to outposition like 9/10 times to win with it in trials (again, this is a titan-specific problem).
Wallah, once you don't need the crutch of oathkeepers to time the poison arrows, Shinobu's vow with hand cannon handling mods paired with a quickdraw snapshot hand cannon make you practically unstopable. Skip grenades are hella clucth to chase down enemies who do not want to re-peek you after being poisoned.
what you can do instead is a legendary bow with quick access sling and a legendary 120 HC with quickdraw, the swap speed is already the fastest speed you can get without using any armor mods or exotics. This means you can use any exotic heavy, and any exotic armor build you want.
I personally run peacebond and lemon or another bow because it just fits my more passive ranged playstyle. Clutched a few 1v3’s with some smart positioning and letting the enemy come to me. I mean the gun is literally toxic by design (poison), but it’s normally only toxic tryhards that actually get mad when I use this combo because it’s easy to outplay if you catch me out of cover or rush me in anything but a straight line (*cough cough shotgun apes*) but I can win most 1v1 peak shooting duels which they almost always challenge.
Yeah...I was a scumbag this weekend and ran this loadout but with top-tree tether and graviton forfeit for Trials. I was invisible more often than not.
I LOVE Le Monarch but I get the hate. I run Stasis Hunter w/ Oathkeepers and i'm grinding for a Wellspring/Surplus Moon Hand Cannon so when I secure a kill w/it it gives me ability energy. The second shuriken (as long as I don't spam them) helps me maintain at least two stacks of surplus even if I burn dodge and my grenade.
@@Coszmoo I’m not gonna say more brain dead because majority of people would find using a shotgun easier but if a bow and handcannon loadout more annoying definitely.
@@Coszmoo so since when was peak shooting, choosing your engagements and playing passively more brain dead than holding forward and hip firing for a 1 shot kill? Don’t get me wrong, bows are still pretty easy to use and if you have bad positioning they’re a pain to go against, but not nearly as brainless as a shotgun ape
I only use Monarque as a latch ditch effort. Or when im done getting killed by meta weapons in every single gamemode every single game. Its the Dead Mans Tale hard counter, and GOD i hate being killed by that.
I have an Oath keepers Le Mornarque load out with 100 mobility, 100 recovery, 80 intellect, 40 res, 50 dis + 50 strength. All 10s (obviously mods used to get to these stats). And a QD snapshot Steady Hand. With the upcoming change to abilities I'll probably run it instead of my ability focused exotic builds. Overall ALL the neutral exotics will start seeing way more use. Obviously nothing gets used more than Stompees with hunters (neutral) . With the sandbox changes there will even be more Stompees and other neutrals and less of things like Shinobus etc.
I played a team in trials twice yesterday who had snipers, and when they ran out of sniper bullets they swapped to Le Monarque. I never wanted equipment lock to be back so badly in my life
That happened to me too Lmaooo lamest team I’ve ever fought besides a 3 invis Hunter Le Monarque Team
Yeah that’s annoying. The flip side of that is….you run into people running cheese > your loadouts don’t counter the cheese well > can’t change > are now fucked.
equipment lock needs to really be a thing. I had an idea that once the first team gets to 3 wins, both teams can change equipment between rounds. That way there is still skill in making adjustments, but also opens the door for a little bit of a chess match of guessing what adjustments your opponents will make and rolling the dice on countering their adjustments. Seems like a good idea to me
Mitchell Guntrum
Definitely like this better than an outright lock. Maybe equipment unlocks when the eliminated/victory banner pops up at the end of a round.
@@hetoricsyt2317 u think that is? What about back when triple skip nades were flying all around trials cuz of the seasonal mod. THAT was so annoying
Saw a lot of people like the longer format but I personally like these 9-11 or 12 minute vids. Unless its for a tourney or something, then the sky is the limit(make it a day long and ill still watch that)
Noted! I’ll keep the shorter ones + more double uploads then! I just wanted to test some new things before the 7th to see what people like and seems the 10-15 min mark is the best
@@SayWallahBruh it’s really nice to see a creator who genuinely wants the best for their audience.
Agreed. Videos 10-12 minutes are the sweet spot.
@@SayWallahBruh that length is perfect for my breaks at work. Any longer than 15 and I can only watch part of the video.
@@benstanfill363 remember you can alway put it at 1.25x or 1.5x speed, that way you can still watch a full video even if it is a little longer than 15min
Wallahs titles be like "This thing is way too GOOD (if you use this I will run you over with a 2003 Toyota Matrix)"
oddly especific
@@rinzler1767 makes it better
It's funny that I have a friend who is not the best player but when he is using Le Monarque I just can't do anything unless I'm using sniper. But my friend try to use normal weapons he seems to be missing a pair of hands.
Sounds a lot like me. I cannot use any weapon that isn't a bow or a sub-machine gun.
@@blazetheomega8972 lol I main Wishender, Shayura’s, and peacekeepers. I totally understand that.
@@landonmartin5831 Can you help me get wishender i have these tokens but i dont know what to do after that lmao
@@panini5733 lol I’m on vacation right now and won’t be back till Friday, but I’ll add you and help out when I get back.
@@panini5733 I play on Xbox and my ID is “MartinMartian63”
Wallah when he gets a We Ran: Nonchalantly says "that's awesome"
Me when I get a 5 Streak: "I AM GOD" _immediately dies_
This made me laugh for real cuz I'm the same
Fuvking true😂
I have 1 We Ran to my name and it's still the pinnacle of my PvP career. It was like 2 years ago and I haven't even really come close since
@@pluto3194 I have one Ghost in the Night and at least half the kills were people that were AFK and it's still my highlight. That and being randomly able to pull off 3 V 1s in Trials.
@@campolo313
I have a handful of those but that's because they're stupid easy in Momentum Control. Here's something I think is cool though, when trials first released in D1, my very first match I ended up getting a ghost.
10:29 I laughed so hard at this 😂😂 love that fair and balanced titan ability
The cut after tho had me dying
That's one the most brainless ability in the game, they all have stupid crayon abilities idk why, I guess one of the CEO at bungie play titan.... Is so stupid dude.
@@W4rriorOfLight yet my cousin who plays titan cannot see the problems that I see when I fight a crayon muncher
@@LiVeS-qn5be I would argue that the least mobile and clunky class is an easy counter with dodge and stompee double jump. Wallah sitting in one spot while ads is what got him killed
Remember, if you land 2 headshots on 2 opponents and they're close enough the poison will kill them both
As much as people hate going against it, I just love the aesthetic of playing with it on Nightstalker. Makes me feel like a ninja, as a Hunter should feel like
I feel exactly the same thing
It's so weird I never thought I'd be seeing bows of all weapons to be hated. As a generally regular bow user I find that it's more of an up hill battle if you lose your rhythm and find people who exploit that draw time.
Someone said it. Same here. I see bows as more of a challenge vs hc and shottys or snipers
The idea of being taken to half, or as is the case with Monarque, one HP instantly by a gun with infinite ammo? It’s really annoying. Combine it with insane aim assist and hitboxes and you got the recipe for a hated weapon. It doesn’t help that you can basically instakill people with quickswitches.
People underestimate bows so hard, and then eat arrows 🏹
Agreeeed my brother
You could be extra toxic and use it with empowering rift on warlock and either ophidians or necrotic grips with celestial fire.
I used High energy fire and emp rifts with ophidians. I didn't get tbagged 🙂
I abuse it with stag, arc souls and empowering and I've gone flawless with that and a sidearm
@@AOJ-z3m basically can't lose 1v1's.
Does necrotic grip work with Le Monarque?
@@Phoenix6942-7 almost 1v3 but got titand because I killed two guys and didn't see the third next to me
A good Le Monarque user will just absolutely shit on your life. It takes whatever good feeling you were having and crushes it out of pure, disgusting hatred.
I agree with this lol, I was using it in a 1v1 versus my top 1% sniper mate and its the only time I've seen him go full tilt 🤣
With the exotic arms you're using you see the arms light up in sync with the bow being drawn. Really nice touch with the design. It's subtle and you have to be looking at the arms to see it, but nice none the less
Furthering my first comment about Le Monarque is my favorite weapon in Destiny 2, Bows in general are my favorite way to play the game. PVE, and PvP I use them for everything.
Nothing in the game can out burst damage a bow in speed and accuracy at any distance. This is of course taking Heavy out of the equation.
Whether you're using a Legendary w/ Quick Access Sling and a exotic HC or going with Le Monarque and a Legendary Handcannon the time to kill is absolutely unparalleled.
But there are different ways to play a bow. Either quick swapping or bow main or even bow midrange.
Quick swapping is arguably the best, especially against uncoordinated teams. But when playing against smart opponents or in Trials etc. The midrange game is absolutely phenomenal.
Pair a legendary bow such as Point of the Stag, or Wolftone with a Handcannon like Crimson, Hawkmoon or Ace and you'll have a high burst DPS at all ranges while specialized in that midrange fluctuating engagements.
Challenge snipers with the bow and anything else in Scout / Pulse range. Use your quick swapping for rushing apes and fusions, and lastly utilize the exotic Handcannon of choice for close engagements/midrange control.
I especially love Bow/Crimson builds. High DPS, high burst, health regen, ammo economy, flinch machine, excellent range across all playing fields and very easy to challenge just about any other weapon in the game.
Le Monarque on middle tree Gunslinger procs the constant dodge spam when hitting its poison arrows. That coupled with Wormhusk makes for absurd health regen and sustainability.
Honestly I use a bow for every single engagement. PVE I'm using Ticcus for nearly everything, PvP I like to experiment with different builds but Le Monarque is supreme. The only thing I really fear is Lorentz Driver and Chaperone. Those two weapons can and will decimate you in most of your effective ranges varying on playstyle so watch out for them.
Other than that have fun, bows are the best weapons in Destiny and the most fun in my opinion. But you really have to commit to the bow life.
I usually run a bow with either ophidian aspect and a hip-fire hand canon for the quick swaps or I use emp rift for the lemon arc headshots it's like a sniper with infinite ammo
bows might be the most annoying weapon type to play against
Pulses and fusions*
now say it without crying
Edit: this build might be the most annoying to play against.
Kinda there with shatterdive hunters.
@@fatasswithvr nah
Camping snipers
I hate the lemon, all my homies hate the lemon 😤
I think it’s one of the best support builds in the game. Stops aggressive players and forces them to change their strat. It’s not overly strong.
10:23 bruh when the abilities come out of nowhere like that lol 😂
in that first game not even the actual feature of the video but your gamesense is so pleasantly laid out when spoken
I prefer using my 576 DT Wolftone Draw over Le Monarque(cause I despise it), I absolutely love using bows but what I usually pair with it is a Heritage with high handling. I’d say the caveat bow users suffer from are the fact one has to figure out to prioritize high damage for close quarters(shotgun) or prioritize being able to handle close to medium range engagements(sidearms and handcannons).
Same. My 576 Wolftone has Impulse Amplifier and Harmony. I pair with Crimson so when I get a kill I heal and my next arrow does more damage (one shot with both harmony and high energy fire). Perfect for when you're outnumbered. When you kill one, they assume you're weak and will push as you heal from the crimson kill. Plus crimson reloads on precision kills
I'd say Monarque is till the king (its in the name after all) for any competitive scenario. The poison is amazing. The added damage without having to proc a damage perk is very useful. The lightweight frame with the precision frame damage profile is spectacular. The drawtime is a decent chunk slower, and no Icarus Grip, is the only thing letting the legendary bows stay in the same league.
@@DarkDemon259 Oi, that's MY loadout.
10:30 those cuts always got me lol keep it up love your vids
The way wallah processes info and reacts so quickly is superhuman…
HeyBakenBruh?
Love how he killed the same Warlock with the same smoke/arrow in the same spot twice in the first match
how to make someone strongly consider alt f4-ing
@@Stephetheon this made me chuckle
My friends and I call this play style “bitch switching”
"we;re actually gunna pop super here" aka he panicked when he was weak at 8:48 lmao
The burp at the end got me lolol
Le Monarque is singlehandedly my favorite weapon in the game. As a bow main, I'll never stop loving and using it. I absolutely can't wait for a Catalyst.
I am with you for sure I pair it with dire promise also. Wolftone with Harmony is pretty bad ass
@@timbeasley1209 Hell yeah bro! 😁🤘
Yeah I need to get the wish ender bow quest done. Have not found anyone to run it with yet hopefully one day I can get it and my bow 🏹🏹 collection will be complete
If you really want to be annoying in Trials pair this with a Lonesome sidearm with Killclip and top tree Nightstalker. If you want to just go all out use Graviton Forfeit as your exotic as well. It’s annoying as heck to push against someone who is good with this setup. It dominates at long range, can shred at close range, and even can trade fairly well at mid-range duels.
I just started playing bow after hating them since I started playing last summer. The current content drought forced me to finally finish Ticcu’s Divination catalyst. I’ve enjoyed it so much that I masterworked an Oathbringer. Once I’m done with my catalyst, I’ll definitely be giving monarque a hard play. Your video comes at the perfect time. You’ve got such great angles and you don’t use shotgun. Great stuff to digest with this vid. Keep up the great work with the variety!
A helpful tip is if u get caught in close range, a fully drawn body shot from lemon arc (101 dmg) plus a melee (100 dmg) will kill as well. It's possible to not even use a shotgun because of that com(bow)
@@iamrazor9831 great tip! Thank you!!!
I've been waiting for the day you used my favorite weapon. I'm still waiting for the catalyst
I want the cat to give either archers tempo(or something similar) or something with hip-fire improvements then this bow will truly be unstoppable
LeMon and Thorn both
The catalyst will be added when the go slow update comes
A catalyst for one of the most annoying and easy to use weapons in pvp? uh.. okay
@@REPHLEX94 FINE gimme a catalyst for Jotunn then 🙄
I have been doing this since lemonarch dropped and 120s were still 110s (I used a qd 110 hc called Home For The Lost) I hope the exposure of this loadout doesn't get it nerfed because I legitimately have been doing this for like 2+ years and it's JUST now getting widely noticed within the community
Same I used to use a forge 110 that had either hip-fire grip or qd I don't remember exactly which. But I used to head shot with lemon arc and quick swap to the HC for a body shot clean up. It was and still is glorious to see that ttk
“you’ve become the very thing you swore to destroy” -Obi-Wan Kenobi
Is it better to use oathkeeper or to rock wraithmetal mail so you can swap quicker?
I've been enjoying LeMonarque with Blade Barrage. The poison counts for the dodge recharge perk and the knives are great for close range clean up since you only need to land one to the head.
Wait, does that mean thorn counts?
I LOVE that the edits on deaths were like perfectly time scream clips
I watch your videos on my lunch break religiously keep The vids coming bruh
This one is on the "how does this uses primary ammo?" exotic club.
I legitimaly consider this bow an instant S-tier in pvp. It's like Zen's orb of discord from Overwatch, you mark someone and your team is gonna melt them. Near guaranteed kill with decent coordination.
Don’t steal my fridge
People get irrationally heated whenever this bow comes up, it's hilarious. A good sniper user will make it extremely difficult to do well though, but the average player won't have a good time
Edit: also yeah cwl does 1 tap all resilience with lemon
I have a friend I always 1v1 who loves this thing. Bite of the fox and igneous hammer or multimach are the only weapons that I consistently out duel the lemon with. Thing is crazy
It’s not irrational if it’s annoying
yes a good sniper, but a good bow user does not exist because of how much aim assist they have. Bows probably are the least skilled weapon in the game.
@@jaydenharrison1436 mmmm no. It is not easy to do well with a bow. That high aim assist also has the slowest ttk in the game.
By this logic, one is never skilled with handcannons because they have high aim assist AND competitive ttk.
Fuck Bows. On any skill level
Only major downside of using a bow: you miss out on a one hit kill special. I mean, sure you could run a sniper or shotgun, but then you don’t really have a primary to duel with.
Wallah drop a team scorched video 👀
1:56 Is a little S U S Wallah….
Le Monarque is good but I prefer a kinetic legendary bow with explosive head and quick access sling and pairing that with Sunshot or pali. But a bow and a HC dexterity on the arms is great. I find oath keepers kinda pointless but knucklehead radar... It's toxic. I love this loadout personally but I do swap to a shotgun depending on the map. I also sometimes run this with contingency plan and that's a lot of fun as well. I am glad bows are getting love though
So glad I found this channel. Some of the best UA-cam content I've seen in a long time. Keep it up.
I would not want to run into wallah while playing trials bruh this man is insanely good😂
8:58 I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing this issue with Spectral, I slash them clearly and it just doesn't work lmao
happens to me all the time with any sort of lunge ability
I’ve heard it’s tied to FPS so if you play older gen consoles then that definitely could be the reason spectral feels so inconsistent
@@comradecat3629 I've also heard stuff about FPS affecting lunge abilities, specifically sword lunges. Seems likely, since my prebuilt PC isn't exactly a powerhouse.
when he got ulted at 10:32 that was funny
Lmao love that 10:32 thundercrash
Idc so i demand this bow needs a catalyst kekw
Hey Wallah, I know you’ve made a lot of fusion rifle videos already but I’d like to suggest using the Cartesian coordinate. Rapid fires did get buffed and I think you’ll be surprised at what Cartesian can do
Others have made that video already it's the fastest an strongest dps weapon with particle deconstruction an can allow for one phase on any boss takes less then 15seconds to kill any raid boss if your whole team has cartiseans. You want it with feeding frenzy an vorpal I normally do over 2 Mill damage against bosses.
@@standupholdground he was probably referring to pvp considering that's what this channel is. What a damn know it all you are
It will never get old hearing:
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And yes, absolutely CWL works with bows. You want all the typical CWL mods so make sure you have High Energy Fire on as well (not that I need to tell you that lol) but you will one tap with bows when charged appropriately.
You'll 1 tap with Le Monarque. Not sure about wish ender. But no other bow without also adding another damage perk will 1 tap a guardian (unless there is some low light shenanigans, or the bow is leviathan's breathe...)
@@puthenveetilnoel Wishender will at certain resilience levels
@@puthenveetilnoel wolf tone can one tap with harmony or adagio plus CwL and biting winds can 1 tap with swash x5
@@tacoboy2218 yeah that's why I mentioned the legendary bows needing a charged with light and another damage perk to 1 tap (or swash x5 on the biting winds or ramp X3 on the accrued redemption).
@@infernon good to know!
What’s good wallah, just started watching you luv the videos
It's also op with a hand cannon with timed payload, seventh saraph hand cannon or judgement
regarding the charges with light for bows, I know it works for legendaries because TDT made a sleeper meta using wolftone. Idk about exotic bows tho
i’ve been using le monarque and hand cannon for the past couple months and i love it so much
What key bind do you use to switch weapons?
I won't lie, I sometimes use this with oath keepers and I deserve all the hate I get. It's honestly ridiculous for anything, 6v6, 3v3 and ffa. Expecially when you have good teammates who can clean up really well this thing is unstoppable
That poor stormcaller super in the first part!
YES! All it takes is ONE Le Monarque user to make me leave the match. I'm fine with all other bows but this one. I hate this so freaking much 😂😂
Solution: literally just use a sniper
Or a fusion
Or a shotgun
Just use literally any special weapon and they can’t do shit.
@@Jmanfire2105 Bold of you to assume they wouldn't be at the back of the map *AND* behind teammates where only a sniper would reach them. They're always with teammates for easy clean ups because if someone even breathes on you their bow one shots 😂
@@vyx6005 Oh yeah I’m gonna take the one bow that entirely encourages aggressive play and camp at the back of the map.
I get being annoyed having to deal with it, but at least be realistic. Basically nobody who uses Le Monarque plays like that.
@@Jmanfire2105 yes they do. Not everyone plays it the way wallah does. Lol look at how Mr Fruit played it in his trials vid. It's the strongest bow in the game, of course some use it in the back
@@vyx6005 yeah SOME.
People keep acting like it’s this godly weapon that you can do anything with, and oddly enough I see more people using trace rifles than Le Monarque.
I legit haven’t even seen a single person use it all week, and even in the past when I do, there is almost no reason someone would camp at the back of the map with it, which reflects in game because _basically nobody uses Le Monarque like a sniper rifle at the back of the map because it does not have the range required to do that and is entirely designed to encourage you to be aggressive_
the cut on your vids are comedy lmaoooo
Love to see you use more bows! Have you ever thought about using wish ender? The wall hacks and oathkeepers
mean you have permanent wall hacks!
If you ask me, Monarque is really annoying, but it only becomes a true problem when used with quickswapping. IMO, any gun that can do 100+ damage in a single shot on any range should be unable to benefit or be combined with quick switching of any variety. That means bows and GLs especially.
Nice vid Wallah. This is basically my build when I have to sweat. Personally I'm partial to the 140s for the swap. Throw on explosive payload so they can kinda function if you get pushed too aggressively. It's a hell of a build.
As a Hunter main who loves blades and bows, I appreciate this content lol
Tbh for pvp if you are quick swapping to HC, I think Wolftone Draw with impulse/harmony and quick access sling might actually be slightly better than LM since harmony can lead to 1 taps on the bow after a HC cleanup leading to some nasty kill chains.
How do you do the grenade animation cancel? I've noticed it in several videos now. Also the first person hunter dodge. Idk if you did it in this video but I've noticed it before and I did it on accident once but have no idea how.
Grenade cancel is just weapon swap. If you're on your primary and want to get back to it fast just throw, swap to your secondary and back really fast.
the funniest part of Le Monarque is once one person in the lobby starts doing well with it, a lot of the time you'll start seeing almost everyone use it lol.
A strat ny friends and I enjoy is 2 monarchs and one lumina. Lumina is clean up master and with the catalyst he gets 2 buffs. Conveniently enough to buff both bows with enough to one shot anyone…
Would be cool to watch this loadout in flawless pool trials or a sweaty scrim!
Why do streamers keep making videos of builds they hate and wonder why the community is using them more often than ever. I've mastered the bow handcannon build since forsaken, can't put it down, love it too much, as a casual player who doesn't have alot of time to play I can really hold my ground against those sweats who play for 16 hours a day like a job. Thank you Bungie.
you could try with lucky pants for the fast swap and finish with the more accurate shot...
ayo wallah try out the garden bow w/ explosive head & QuickDraw, thing is nasty and you can run pally and a buncha different energy slot guns with it
Last word and wolf tone draw bow with harmony and lucky pants is what I use. Haven’t found a more fun and enjoyable way to play pvp
This is the exact setup I use when people start to piss me off, minus the oathkeepers 😂
Steady hand, le monarque, and reeds regret
Maaaad downplaying the role a quickdraw kinetic hand cannon plays in this working. Mained Monarque since Black Armory on titan and without the mobility to ezpz dip out of failed engagements and the hunter jump/ icarus dash to approach well from the air (and disengage) it's actually a pretty harsh playstyle. You have to outposition like 9/10 times to win with it in trials (again, this is a titan-specific problem).
Dude this guy is cracked tf are those shots in the first 2 minutes
Pairing a bow or Le Monarch with multimach gives you a good balance of long and medium/close range.
I swear, when I play control the enemy team gotta play like a tournament 💀
Wallah, once you don't need the crutch of oathkeepers to time the poison arrows, Shinobu's vow with hand cannon handling mods paired with a quickdraw snapshot hand cannon make you practically unstopable. Skip grenades are hella clucth to chase down enemies who do not want to re-peek you after being poisoned.
what you can do instead is a legendary bow with quick access sling and a legendary 120 HC with quickdraw, the swap speed is already the fastest speed you can get without using any armor mods or exotics. This means you can use any exotic heavy, and any exotic armor build you want.
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As someone who mains this loadout I approve 😏
I personally run peacebond and lemon or another bow because it just fits my more passive ranged playstyle. Clutched a few 1v3’s with some smart positioning and letting the enemy come to me. I mean the gun is literally toxic by design (poison), but it’s normally only toxic tryhards that actually get mad when I use this combo because it’s easy to outplay if you catch me out of cover or rush me in anything but a straight line (*cough cough shotgun apes*) but I can win most 1v1 peak shooting duels which they almost always challenge.
boy's going through the content vault lol
Yeah...I was a scumbag this weekend and ran this loadout but with top-tree tether and graviton forfeit for Trials. I was invisible more often than not.
I love bows, but I usually pair them with an SMG, so I can't do the instakill stuff.
You could be extra EXTRA toxic and use it with empowering rift on warlock WITH necrotic grips THORN and celestial fire.
Use it with peacekeepers and multi mach. Even nastier if the smg has kill clip since you always use it for clean up.
I love when you’re genuinely shocked when people push you’re like “ your insane for pushing DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!?!”
I LOVE Le Monarch but I get the hate. I run Stasis Hunter w/ Oathkeepers and i'm grinding for a Wellspring/Surplus Moon Hand Cannon so when I secure a kill w/it it gives me ability energy. The second shuriken (as long as I don't spam them) helps me maintain at least two stacks of surplus even if I burn dodge and my grenade.
If Hush wasn't sunset, I'd choose it over this any day.
The hipfire was amazing
Ran into a lot of stag empowering rifts using it this weekend. Even not in the rift that arc soul would make it basically one shot me.
Love bow builds, they make all the meta sweats with shotguns get angry. It takes a different kind of play style but enjoyable all around.
Le monarque handcannon is literally more braindead than using a shotgun, handcannons aren’t even that bad
@@Coszmoo I’m not gonna say more brain dead because majority of people would find using a shotgun easier but if a bow and handcannon loadout more annoying definitely.
@@Coszmoo so since when was peak shooting, choosing your engagements and playing passively more brain dead than holding forward and hip firing for a 1 shot kill? Don’t get me wrong, bows are still pretty easy to use and if you have bad positioning they’re a pain to go against, but not nearly as brainless as a shotgun ape
just use empowering rift with middle tree solar, and a nice place in the middle of the map
I only use Monarque as a latch ditch effort. Or when im done getting killed by meta weapons in every single gamemode every single game. Its the Dead Mans Tale hard counter, and GOD i hate being killed by that.
I have an Oath keepers Le Mornarque load out with 100 mobility, 100 recovery, 80 intellect, 40 res, 50 dis + 50 strength. All 10s (obviously mods used to get to these stats). And a QD snapshot Steady Hand.
With the upcoming change to abilities I'll probably run it instead of my ability focused exotic builds. Overall ALL the neutral exotics will start seeing way more use. Obviously nothing gets used more than Stompees with hunters (neutral) . With the sandbox changes there will even be more Stompees and other neutrals and less of things like Shinobus etc.
Wallah why don’t you use spikes when playing nightstalker
If you use momarque, i hope your pillow is warm as fuck
Saw that same exact combo on crucible... said to myself with youtuber is showing this on today and wallah here it is...
I love when I experience something in game , then come to UA-cam hours later to find the source.
The steady hand