Weighting pepper using different bowls, whose weight is 2 or 3 orders of magnitude above what you are measuring. The difference in weight between the bowls alone, can out weight the pepper you are measuring! For a correct comparison, use the same bowl every time, so that there is no variation in the bowl weight during meauring.
@@jhuesmann The scientific method is to only change one variable, the one you are trying to measure, while keeping everything else unchanged. The main issue is the huge difference in weight between the bowl/ramekin and pepper powder. But you can try a bunch of bowl/ramekins and weight them with a precision scale, and see the actual difference for yourself.
I was looking through the comments to see if anyone had pointed this out yet! Also, when measuring small amounts of dry material, one gram resolution isn’t very good. On a medium grind, I measured one teaspoon of pepper to be 1.8 grams - so a one gram difference is like 1/2 teaspoon of ground pepper. I also measured an ~11 gram spread in weight between four similarly sized bowls...
@@RuiMartins You ae indeed correct. He could have mentioned that he first weighed all the bowls to ensure they are the same weight. Or, as you said use the same vessel. Hes definately not scientific. A Chef need to be scientific if they are going to do proper food costs, and labor costs. Thats what chefs do, else they are just a cook.
This is just an ad - I think just because it outputs more pepper per crack doesn't mean that I wanted that much pepper in the first place. I'd rather crank the mill 3x to cover one side of a chicken breast, rather than 1/2 crank
To be honest if I was you guys running a business and needing to season all that meat I would just get a manual mill and attach a cordless drill to it like Alton Brown did haha.
Right? If they are seasoing hundreds of burgers a day, an electric mill to mass grind daily would make more sense. It would save him on workman's comp claims also.
I suspect that the weights measured are a bit inaccurate; there is likely some some variance in the weights of the bowls throwing off the comparison. A better method to weigh the pepper would have been to place an empty bowl (or a small sheet of paper or parchment) on the scale and tare it to zero; then pour the pepper in that empty bowl. I believe that would have provided the more accurate comparison. Nevertheless, the Pepper Cannon is very impressive!
I was thinking the same thing. The right way to do it would have been to weigh each bowl. Then zero the scale, then empty the bowl and reweigh it. That will show the difference in weight between full and empty.
You are exactly correct. Even laboratory vials, made to fairly accurate specifications, vary in weight quite a bit. As you suggest, tare a receptacle and weigh from there.
So Mannkitchen's web site claims it can grind a lot finer or way more course than other grinders. The amount is impressive, but on it's smallest and largest grind settings, is it noticably different than another good mill, like the Puegot? I don't need 9g of pepper every 10 cranks, but I would be interested in something a lot more course than I could get with another grinder for a Brisket.
The best way to fill a Peppermill is to put all your pepper in a large Ziploc bag, open the mill put it in the bag and just scoop it in with your hands. It takes about 10 seconds to fill it up and you never spell any of it. You’re welcome.
The price is crazy. They need to head to China for manufacturing. You can get good materials and manufacturing in China if you are hands on. They could knock these to $100, still make a great profit, and sell more than twice the units for a higher net.
well I have the china plastic body pepper cannon from Walmart cost was under $10.00 and if you reinforce the twisting part because I am sure it will break in the long run you have a awesome pepper mill on the cheap
When you weighed the pepper the results were an accurate you can’t use the different goals as they are slightly different and wait you have to use the same bowl but regardless it’s obvious the pepper canon is way better
If I need a lot of ground pepper I use a mortar and pestle. Way faster than a pepper cannon. Mine is stone and about $20. What is wrong with people! Flipping gadgets hey?
4:56 peculiar that he didn't think of using the funnel when filling the Peugeot peppermill that has been used since before he was born. As a chef, it should go without saying not go get your plastic parts too close to heat, else it would melt. Same with the OXO. I have been cooking longer than this guy has been around. I burned one pot in my life time. So melting appliances or gadgets has never been an issue. One must be aware of what they are doing. Lastly, he waits past the 7-minute mark of a 14 minute video before he gets to the "grind test", which is not really a test. He dont use the same coarseness settings. The Magnum for example actually put out more, but he overlooked that. He shoud have done a same-coarse setting 10 turn test and measured the weight of each result. Fine, medium, and coarse. And posted the results. Thsi is definitely a paid for advertisement since he was more critical of his earlier grinders before he took the cannon out of the box. Further, I have seen advertisements of this Pepper cannon on my FB under 7 different companies. Yes 7. Their websites have NO address, crappy return policies with no recourse if an order goes wrong. Their advertising is very misleading, which is sad for it looks like a promising product. I just do not trust sites that act shady and want me to purchase a $200 product with not even an account login. Its not even available. Wanna see somethign WORSE? Look at the review of thsi grinder from "the manufacturer" it has mor edislikes than likes! They even turned comments off but still left it online. Making a video that is not legit only takes away from Alvin's credibility. This is just sloppy and unprofessional. This is what a video looks like when a manufacturer sends you free product. Even if he is right in 3 grams over 10 cranks from the Magnum, that is less than .25 grams per crank difference. I can live with that since the magnum is a LEGIT company that you can even look up. "MÄNNKITCHEN PEPPER CANNON $199.00" Unicorn Mills 9-inch Magnum Plus Pepper Mill - $49.99
Underrated comment. I sensed he was super biased toward the pepper cannon and the fact that it cranked less than the unicorn at first then he adjusted the grind "coarser" by some arbitrary amount just to get it to output more and look better. Idk couldn't he use a sifter to dial them all in to the same grind then do the grind test?
"Thsi is definitely a paid for advertisement " It can't be unless it's disclosed. Not disclosing a paid advertisement is against FCC rules. I had the same issues with the test but I'd add the ramekins were likely not the same weight either invalidating any data he could have gotten from the test. I think it's fair to say that Alvin is not a professional product reviewer and since he didn't say the video was sponsored it can't legal by sponsored. It's either not sponsored by Maennkitchen or he didn't know he had to release the sponsorship. With that said I doubt Maennkitchen could pay Alvin enough to purposefully lie about a product and I don't see why they would for a channel with only just over 600 subscribers.
Best way to get pepper for a fraction of the time and cost and will literally last a lifetime (aside from the pepper cannon, but dang that cost…) Mortar and pestle. I’ve been through sooo many grinders and still end up using the mortar and pestle.
It would have been more accurate weighing the pepper, if you tared each dish containing the individual pepper. The dishes will not be exactly the same weight. And if you are weighing the small amounts of pepper, the weight accuracy will be poor. The other way is to poor the pepper from each dish into a tared container on the scales and empty the pepper out before you weigh the next sample. The larger samples have less of a problem.
You are flawed in your weighing process you need to use the same container to weigh each amount of pepper each one of those containers will not be an exact tared out zero weight. If you would have done that first would have gotten way more accurate readings that's why you had a problem with the one that showed more pepper that weighed less.
LMFAO!! I used to fuck with this guy! But bro 200 dollars and the shit is not even electric, I still got to grind my own shit FOH! U can tell he got paid which is fine get ur bread no doubt but in this game people like me are going to shift I was looking for a real opinion not a paid one.
But it isn't. It's just a high quality manual pepper mill for dudes who don't want to go get their drill every time they need a large amount of pepper.
Consider me a brat:) I use so much pepper, it's with it for me. I also supported the company to make it, so it'll probably go down in price once it's on the shelves. I figure I did my part with making it come alive
@@4333carol Good luck getting your grinder.... IF its available at all, you paid ver $300 to get one MAYBE by November. My Magnum @ $50 is a far better deal, plus I already have one. Its awesome.
Weighting pepper using different bowls, whose weight is 2 or 3 orders of magnitude above what you are measuring.
The difference in weight between the bowls alone, can out weight the pepper you are measuring!
For a correct comparison, use the same bowl every time, so that there is no variation in the bowl weight during meauring.
Do you figure the ramekins-made on an assembly line-have more than a gram of variation in mass?
@@jhuesmann The scientific method is to only change one variable, the one you are trying to measure, while keeping everything else unchanged.
The main issue is the huge difference in weight between the bowl/ramekin and pepper powder.
But you can try a bunch of bowl/ramekins and weight them with a precision scale, and see the actual difference for yourself.
yeah and the first two bowls don't contain a gram of pepper, no way ! a gram is at least a cubic centimeter !, pepper is lighter than water
I was looking through the comments to see if anyone had pointed this out yet! Also, when measuring small amounts of dry material, one gram resolution isn’t very good. On a medium grind, I measured one teaspoon of pepper to be 1.8 grams - so a one gram difference is like 1/2 teaspoon of ground pepper. I also measured an ~11 gram spread in weight between four similarly sized bowls...
@@RuiMartins You ae indeed correct. He could have mentioned that he first weighed all the bowls to ensure they are the same weight. Or, as you said use the same vessel. Hes definately not scientific. A Chef need to be scientific if they are going to do proper food costs, and labor costs. Thats what chefs do, else they are just a cook.
This is just an ad - I think just because it outputs more pepper per crack doesn't mean that I wanted that much pepper in the first place. I'd rather crank the mill 3x to cover one side of a chicken breast, rather than 1/2 crank
To be honest if I was you guys running a business and needing to season all that meat I would just get a manual mill and attach a cordless drill to it like Alton Brown did haha.
We should all spam dewalt. 20v max pepper mill
Right? If they are seasoing hundreds of burgers a day, an electric mill to mass grind daily would make more sense. It would save him on workman's comp claims also.
@@ghanus2009 thats not freshly grinded though smh
You'll wear out the burrs VERY quickly
@Spacey that's still not freshly ground dummy lmao
My man. Each of those bowls weigh way different. The variance on them are profound.
You literally turned the knob 4 times for the cannon vs 2 for the unicorn and then directly compared the amounts.
if you kept watching he did them both 10 times adter
@@crypto5931 Still only .27 grams difference between turns for $150 MORE.
I suspect that the weights measured are a bit inaccurate; there is likely some some variance in the weights of the bowls throwing off the comparison. A better method to weigh the pepper would have been to place an empty bowl (or a small sheet of paper or parchment) on the scale and tare it to zero; then pour the pepper in that empty bowl. I believe that would have provided the more accurate comparison. Nevertheless, the Pepper Cannon is very impressive!
Yes, the actual output of the pepper cannon at similar coarseness is closer to 3X.
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I was thinking the same thing. The right way to do it would have been to weigh each bowl. Then zero the scale, then empty the bowl and reweigh it. That will show the difference in weight between full and empty.
You are exactly correct. Even laboratory vials, made to fairly accurate specifications, vary in weight quite a bit. As you suggest, tare a receptacle and weigh from there.
So Mannkitchen's web site claims it can grind a lot finer or way more course than other grinders. The amount is impressive, but on it's smallest and largest grind settings, is it noticably different than another good mill, like the Puegot? I don't need 9g of pepper every 10 cranks, but I would be interested in something a lot more course than I could get with another grinder for a Brisket.
The best way to fill a Peppermill is to put all your pepper in a large Ziploc bag, open the mill put it in the bag and just scoop it in with your hands. It takes about 10 seconds to fill it up and you never spell any of it. You’re welcome.
If you need that much fresh pepper just use an automatic spice grinder to grind large quantities for you.
Mannkitchen Pepper Cannon looked amazing until you find out it's $200
Right? I also found it on several shady sites. No address, no phone number, nothign but a place to enter your credit card. Beware.
The price is crazy. They need to head to China for manufacturing. You can get good materials and manufacturing in China if you are hands on. They could knock these to $100, still make a great profit, and sell more than twice the units for a higher net.
The coffee community over here laughing like - welcome to the world of premium grinders. Comandante hand grinders for coffee $360
Just get a mortar and pestle. Saves you having to grind pepper every time. You could grind the right amount for the day.
Thanks for the totally unbiased review
6:44 Won't it be super hot in the hand if you're leaving it next to the stove?
The weight of your ramekins aren't likely to be the same since ramekin manufacturers don't design them to weigh the same.
It's on Amazon for $200 now. That's just crazy.
It is a lifetime product & designed for BBQ masters - it is worth every penny.
@@bestyoutubernonegraternumber1Maybe if you work in food production, not for home users.
Check out the Matfer whisks ... they are insane. Does the scale even go down that far, with any acuracy?
If I buy this I'll be able to afford the pepper by next year.
Looks like you cranked it 4 times instead of 2
how much can a $30 small cordless drill or screw driver attached to one of them do?
My current pepper grinder would require me to grind for 10 min just to make a large batch of spaghetti sauce...
well I have the china plastic body pepper cannon from Walmart cost was under $10.00 and if you reinforce the twisting part because I am sure it will break in the long run you have a awesome pepper mill on the cheap
Pepper Cannon is amazing, but my god the price !
My cheapo pepper mill broke, been using my mortar and pestle , its not too bad lmao
Thank you
Much appreciate an honest review from you that use them every day.
When you weighed the pepper the results were an accurate you can’t use the different goals as they are slightly different and wait you have to use the same bowl but regardless it’s obvious the pepper canon is way better
Does it come with a lifetime supply of organic peppercorns?
Best Pepper Cannon review on the inter webs
I wasn’t aware that volume was important…. I thought it was ability to go from fine to corse consistently.
For the price, good for the line cook, but Unicorn magnum all day for a home cook. 🙌
i'll take the unicorn at $50. the pepper cannon at $160 is way too much.
Or just use a turkish grinder and a drill lol
@@xyzdestruction no just use a normal pepper mill
Its $200
I can’t believe I watched a video reviewing pepper grinders
My pepper mill has a handle on the crank. It showers pepper onto my food, or the eyes of my enemies!😜
Get a powered barista coffee grinder. Expensive, but worth it in a pro environment.
I always thought it was crazy that Peugeot make cars and pepper mills.
General Electric makes light bulbs and jet engines, so...
@@jhuesmann well they are called general not specific electric. lol
Yamaha makes flutes and pianos, and motorbikes
The pepper cannon is so expensive and it not even fills any easier (and less messy) than a cheap, cheap pepper Mill.
New fan, looking for review on Weberworkshop Moulin, ordered this instead. My 2nd purchase via Indie, still awaiting shipment of roto Q 360 rotiserrie
Good luck, sending you r$$$ to an empty hole.. twice?
backed this on kickstarter and cant wait to get one, want the salt mill too if they ever make it
Thanks Abraham! If we get 300 preorders for a salt mill we'll make it. You can sign up here if you're interested: forms.gle/JcxVt9yT6DNsh73V8
@@mannkitchen already did when i backed ya, I hope more do
Just got mine today!! Amazing quality
Scammed lol
Its a little pricey for pepper cannon, ill go for unicorn pepper corn grinder instead
That's a great mill for the price, and my second favorite mill.
What size and type of burr setup does it have?
$160 !!!!!!!! Lmao no way! I’d rather do the $60 2nd place for a couple more cranks!
Ya know?
Tell you what get a Turkish pepper grinder get a drill auto pepper grinder
I started using hand cranked coffee mills and they are AMAZING. You can crank with a hand crank. With that said, I have a pepper cannon on order.
If I need a lot of ground pepper I use a mortar and pestle. Way faster than a pepper cannon. Mine is stone and about $20. What is wrong with people! Flipping gadgets hey?
Get the Oxo or Kuhn Rikon Pepper Mill.
Alvin, thanks so much for taking the time! This is awesome!
Why no pfp? It would make the channel look more serious.
4:56 peculiar that he didn't think of using the funnel when filling the Peugeot peppermill that has been used since before he was born.
As a chef, it should go without saying not go get your plastic parts too close to heat, else it would melt. Same with the OXO. I have been cooking longer than this guy has been around. I burned one pot in my life time. So melting appliances or gadgets has never been an issue. One must be aware of what they are doing.
Lastly, he waits past the 7-minute mark of a 14 minute video before he gets to the "grind test", which is not really a test.
He dont use the same coarseness settings. The Magnum for example actually put out more, but he overlooked that.
He shoud have done a same-coarse setting 10 turn test and measured the weight of each result. Fine, medium, and coarse. And posted the results.
Thsi is definitely a paid for advertisement since he was more critical of his earlier grinders before he took the cannon out of the box. Further, I have seen advertisements of this Pepper cannon on my FB under 7 different companies. Yes 7. Their websites have NO address, crappy return policies with no recourse if an order goes wrong. Their advertising is very misleading, which is sad for it looks like a promising product. I just do not trust sites that act shady and want me to purchase a $200 product with not even an account login. Its not even available.
Wanna see somethign WORSE? Look at the review of thsi grinder from "the manufacturer" it has mor edislikes than likes! They even turned comments off but still left it online.
Making a video that is not legit only takes away from Alvin's credibility. This is just sloppy and unprofessional. This is what a video looks like when a manufacturer sends you free product.
Even if he is right in 3 grams over 10 cranks from the Magnum, that is less than .25 grams per crank difference. I can live with that since the magnum is a LEGIT company that you can even look up.
"MÄNNKITCHEN PEPPER CANNON $199.00"
Unicorn Mills 9-inch Magnum Plus Pepper Mill - $49.99
Underrated comment. I sensed he was super biased toward the pepper cannon and the fact that it cranked less than the unicorn at first then he adjusted the grind "coarser" by some arbitrary amount just to get it to output more and look better. Idk couldn't he use a sifter to dial them all in to the same grind then do the grind test?
"Thsi is definitely a paid for advertisement " It can't be unless it's disclosed. Not disclosing a paid advertisement is against FCC rules. I had the same issues with the test but I'd add the ramekins were likely not the same weight either invalidating any data he could have gotten from the test.
I think it's fair to say that Alvin is not a professional product reviewer and since he didn't say the video was sponsored it can't legal by sponsored. It's either not sponsored by Maennkitchen or he didn't know he had to release the sponsorship. With that said I doubt Maennkitchen could pay Alvin enough to purposefully lie about a product and I don't see why they would for a channel with only just over 600 subscribers.
Nice review 🙂 but weighing the different ramakins, ffs.
The Magnum is $60. Anybody used that one?
Hearing Navi in the background music tripped me out.
Best way to get pepper for a fraction of the time and cost and will literally last a lifetime (aside from the pepper cannon, but dang that cost…)
Mortar and pestle. I’ve been through sooo many grinders and still end up using the mortar and pestle.
@607 that was 4 grinds.
$200 for a peppermill and $400 for a set (with salt mill). I doubt if you're a terrible cook, an expensive peppermill will make you any better. 😂
7:10 "Plate and simple" ?? 😄
Your plates varied a few grams I’m sure. Bad lab technique B-
The Mannkitchen looks amazing but I'll be waiting to purchase until they fix the 'fine' setting considering it looks pretty rough.
It's $200 for a friggin pepper grinder?!?!?!?
It may not melt…but it’ll probably get hot….even with aluminum’s ability to dissipate heat…
It would have been more accurate weighing the pepper, if you tared each dish containing the individual pepper. The dishes will not be exactly the same weight. And if you are weighing the small amounts of pepper, the weight accuracy will be poor.
The other way is to poor the pepper from each dish into a tared container on the scales and empty the pepper out before you weigh the next sample.
The larger samples have less of a problem.
Those bowls probably don't weigh the same.
mankitchen pepper cannon for $199 each
You should check the weight of your dishes...
The first one is not ever 3g
is it easy to crank? most are too hard for elderly and disabled
If you think that's impressive, you should see what an almost identical "manual coffee grinder" will do... For 20 bucks.
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Yeah it BETTER crank out a lot of pepper for $200.
for $200 bucks it better come with a lady that rolls over to my house and grinds it for me
599?
what is that a cellphone?
Lol $160
Yeah, it looks nice and works well but that price is out of my budget. Just gonna get the unicorn at almost one third the price.
more LOL, its actually $200
It better do a lot more than grind pepper for $200. Forget about it!!!
Omg what a STRUGGLE to fill all those Pepper Mills 😂😂😂
This video is brought to you by Mankitchen….
Buy our $200 pepper mill, please 🥺
$199🤯🤯🤯
Thank you for doing this, the Pepper Cannon is hella expensive, but looks like it's worth it!
I would rather just grind the pepper in a mini food processor and bottle the results. Too pricey.
Who the fuck is paying $200 for a pepper mill?
#NotWorthit! $200..... The magnum works the best bang for the buck $59, and will last a very long time.
You are flawed in your weighing process you need to use the same container to weigh each amount of pepper each one of those containers will not be an exact tared out zero weight. If you would have done that first would have gotten way more accurate readings that's why you had a problem with the one that showed more pepper that weighed less.
$200 🤯
LMFAO!! I used to fuck with this guy! But bro 200 dollars and the shit is not even electric, I still got to grind my own shit FOH! U can tell he got paid which is fine get ur bread no doubt but in this game people like me are going to shift I was looking for a real opinion not a paid one.
Ok but I think the normal mill is better because you can control better how much pepper is on your food so you don't overseason it
Carpal tunnel no …. Diabetes yes
Jump to 7:30 for the comparison
Whyyy
MOST BLATANT paid for review I’ve ever seen - and I’m an Alvin fan 🤦🏻♂️
At least say you’re being sponsored.
those cups don't weight exactly the same !, and you need much more accurate scales, to weight the PEPPER itself, not the cups
$160😂😐
Learn to weigh bruh! You should have weighed the first dish then poured the contents of each into that first dish
"Pepper Cannon". This type of shit is why people write essays about fragile masculinity lmao
But it isn't. It's just a high quality manual pepper mill for dudes who don't want to go get their drill every time they need a large amount of pepper.
Way too much talking, music that hurt the ears, long intro, and you blur out the subject of your video. GET TO THE POINT.
UNWATCHABLE.
Scam cannon. Price tag is absurd. Only a rich brat would buy this flop
Consider me a brat:) I use so much pepper, it's with it for me. I also supported the company to make it, so it'll probably go down in price once it's on the shelves. I figure I did my part with making it come alive
Heh, not rich but you can call me whatever you want because IDGAF. I'm sick of using subpar mills and this thing is built to last.
@@4333carol Good luck getting your grinder.... IF its available at all, you paid ver $300 to get one MAYBE by November. My Magnum @ $50 is a far better deal, plus I already have one. Its awesome.
@@cjanquart Will be built to last. Its not even available.