This video is very special for me: at 6:26 min. you can see a white appartment building at the corner of Amory and Dubuque. My old Aunt used to live at the second floor of this building. In the 70s, as a teenager, every summer we used to visit her for the vacation and for me this was quite an experience (we lived in Québec). So, for me, Manchester was the end of the world. I remember walking around, shopping on elm street, crossing the "Iron" Notre-Dame Bridge, watching the 3 stooges at dinner time, even sleeping on the balcony when it was too hot and watching the grocery store across the street. There was still a lot of French speaking people there. Hampton Beach was part of the trip too. I remember crossing the White Mountains and stopping at the Old Man face (still there at the time). So, watching this video brings up uge emotions. If you have more information about this appartment building and more shooting of it I would be curious ot see it. Thanks a lot and have a great day. Conrad
i enjoyed this video. my mom grew up on dubuque street until the fifties and my grandmother lived in that house until she died in 1976. it was beautiful. it was not far from st. marie's which is where my parents were married.
As a dirt biker who constantly lugs beer to remote places my first instinct was to think “Oh Nooo just hide the beer up there on the Rock and you will only need to bring a bit of ice next time” But since you appreciated the nice score so much and intended to put them to good use immediately as a post hike treat i had to give you a pass as would the thoughtful light weight that kindly left them for you. 🎉
Great video. I too grew up on the west side. I do ask you check your memory as I went to Ste. Marie’s school as well. Early 70’s That parking lot next to the church and Champagnes Market was paved then.
@user-dn8te9mt6e I just have a feeling that a row of buildings was present in that location , long before our time as not much information or pictures exist of the area from 100 years ago, b ut yes, I do recall the dirt parking lot.
I was born on Laval Street in front of Norman's bakery and went to Rimmon school for grade school we used to walk from Laval Street to Rimmon School four times a day there was no lunch at the school We needed to go home for lunch your video brought back memories to me i remember what message to used to be it is not like that anymore.
Hi! I used to live around the block from the ‘Aquarium’ store as a kid but at that time it was Roy’s Market. Can you get any info on Mr Roy and his store?
I didn't look to hard into those small stores as not much information could be found but I may look again in the future . It's often best to go to the FaceBook all about Manchester , New Hampshire History and ask as many people grew up in that area . I was still very young when the Aquarium store was present as that's all I can remember , but in these videos I like to go as far back in time as possible . facebook.com/groups/1562051994040817/
That’s such a shame about the Granite Square section of the west side. That was a beautiful block. You would be a great candidate to serve on the Manchester Historic Association or the Manchester Heritage Commission if they’re looking for members. It looks like the only real historic districts in Manchester are in the mill yard. (I looked on their map). Also, the NH Preservation is looking for preservation tradesmen to add to their repertoire of references. Get involved!! Help reduce the loss of historic architecture. 😊
As someone new to New Hampshire and Manchester, I'm enjoying learning about my new city through your videos. I walk around Manchester awestruck by the historic buildings, especially magnificent ones like Sainte Marie Roman Catholic Church. I'm not a fan of the vinyl siding on so many of the homes either. So, I'm delighted to hear there's something likely better quality and better looking underneath it. What material is usually under the vinyl siding and why would they cover it with vinyl?
Most people that move here don't care about the history and others take it for granted so it's cool that you noticed 👍 Manchester is a neat old city as its one of the more historic cities in the USA . I tend to pay attention to pre-1940 buildings as after the war most buildings started to be built cheaply and mainstreamed instead of crafted. The prior 1940 buildings were finely crafted out of wood as most were very detailed, due to lack of maintenance mainly due to slumlords that are too cheap to paint the buildings every 10-15 years most have been covered in Vinyl siding . Even many of the ugly tenant buildings throughout the city were once nice looking buildings. The banning of lead paint also contributed heavily to the vinyl epidemic as strict rules used to be enforced to work with lead painted houses . Although I'm a house painter thats worked on many of them over the past 20 years , I've yet to see the EPA rules enforced and have only heard of 1 story of the rules being enforced as I've been around and have met a lot of painters in my life. With common sense lead can be worked with safely as many contractors are willing to do this type of work , but the main issue as I stated is the slumlords and real estate investment groups as they can easily afford to paint these houses every 12-15 years but choose not to. In 2023 the typical 3 tenant apartment building , even in the worst parts of the city generate $4500-6500 per month but many are not maintained as there's no excuse as Slumlords are so cheap that they don't even do yard maintenance. I know a contractor that works for one of these slumlords that owns multiple tenant buildings that gets $2,200/month per unit through section 8 for example. NO EXCUSE
Also if you enjoy walking in the city , take a walk up Prospect street as a handful of painted Victorians are still present on the corner of Linden st , with the foliage it's a very pretty area .
8:01 Champagn's Super Market became the home of Vista foods. I worked there in 1999. At the brick two story part of the building had a few other businesses. One being a Manchester Pawn Shop located at the corner portion of the brick two story part. I have photos of the Valley St Plaza shopping area which included Vista foods, ColorTyme, Bambo Garden, the State of NH Welfare offices and Family Dollar. Speaking of which, Family Dollar, was originally located where the SNHU Arena is now. When the large plaza that had Family Dollar on Elm St. (80's Ames Dept Store) was to be torn down Family Dollar moved to the Valley St. Plaza. I worked at Family Dollar from 2006-2009.
Great video - very informative. Just one clarification.... Manchester Fire Station #6 was in-service as a fire station when it burned. I believe the on-duty crews were out of the station on a training evolution when the building caught fire; not sure of the actual cause.
I agree with you on the Victorian home there. They are quite intricate and took months, or even a year or more to build back then, mostly because there really werent any power tools, and the craftsmen who built them had some seeious skills, and usually tons of experience plying their trades. I have been in a few of those old houses, usually tearing out the antique horsehair plaster on the walls, and Gad, what a horendous mess that crap makes! If you arent wearing a full painters spray suit when youre doing it, youre going to be wearing the stuff for days, going crazy because it always ends up in spots you do NOT want it to go! You're going to have quite the series on video by the time youre done. What a great gift for your gtandchildren and great grandchildren! They wont even be able to recognize Manchester as far back as you go, if the politicos get what they want, -generic, same-looking buildings with no character or craftsmanship. Construxtion has lost most of its individuality, and Im 60, and we had Industrial Arts, half the 8th grade year, and Home Economics the other half. I started grammar school in 1970 at 6 years old, and even then, the historic town of Northborough, Massachusetts, (a little more than an hour drive South from Manchester, down route 3 to 495 south to rte. 20 west. There, and every town between Worcester & Boston, and North all the way to the NH border are fascinating historic towns, battlefields, cemetaries, and literally thousands of homes and buildings, Statues and Monuments dedicated to the hundreds of thousands of Men & Women, who played their own special roles in The French & Indian War, The Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, The Civil War (of the US), The Indian (Native American) Wars, which lasted from the 1500s all the way into the 20th Century, when The Massacre at Wounded Knee occured, and the Government finally figured out that it would be a crime against humanity to allow this continents indigenous people to cease to exist by allowing the US Army to commit genocide simply because the Native Peoples were transients, wandering tribes who had a different belief system, especially when it came to personal or private property, and their wandering nature just happened to 'get in the way of," the progressive all consuming nature of the White, European Settlers, whod basically stolen the entire continent from the Indians & Mexicans, and built this Great Nation on the very soil they once ruled over for millenia!!
I live in a 1919 home. The wood is old growth wood. It’s so hard. You can hardly get a nail into it termites don’t need it. Nothing penetrates it. We had the roof cut off the house when we moved it and it rained and it didn’t even affect the wood didn’t even phase it. It just dried out. It’s like it’s so hard. Nothing can even penetrate it.
I was born in Manchester. My parents moved our family to Fort Lauderdale when I was in the second grade. I would love to see the house we lived in but I have no idea where it was.
In the 50's and 60's many of those houses were covered over with asbestos siding or asphalt siding which made them look far worse and only the well off could afford to have them re-painted correctly. As a vinyl installer I witnessed many re-sided over what had been done before and those few that weren't were in bad shape.At least vinyl siding looks like clapboards and not the other stuff being used before. People got what they could afford.
Yes , I see this quite often . Lead paint is also a huge culprit as when it was banned in 1976 , everyone was afraid of the EPA so they reverted to vinyl. The good thing is that many of the vinyled houses were in excellent shape prior to being vinyled as some homes may be restored in the future. Although much of the elaborately crafted pre-1940's trimwork gets removed prior to Vinyl as it can be quite a task to accurately restore a home that's been vinyl sided. I used to specialized in restoring 1700's to 1940's homes and buildings but got tired of dealing with lead paint myself. Vinyl siding can look great if done right with a quality product , but most people choose to use the cheapest crap available and you end up with a building that resembles a plastic trash can 🤣
@ nope for sure kinda makes me sad i remember being able to run the city as a boy with zero worries but once i had kids i had to go but still there frequently
Please check your facts again. The fire house on Rimmon street was not arson. The fire crew left something on the stove cooking while they went to a training session at the airport. I was there the day it burnt. People including myself first thought the fire crew was in there as it was burning. We were standing on the south west corner of Rimmon and Amory and the fire was to hot we had to move away.
This video is very special for me: at 6:26 min. you can see a white appartment building at the corner of Amory and Dubuque. My old Aunt used to live at the second floor of this building. In the 70s, as a teenager, every summer we used to visit her for the vacation and for me this was quite an experience (we lived in Québec). So, for me, Manchester was the end of the world. I remember walking around, shopping on elm street, crossing the "Iron" Notre-Dame Bridge, watching the 3 stooges at dinner time, even sleeping on the balcony when it was too hot and watching the grocery store across the street. There was still a lot of French speaking people there. Hampton Beach was part of the trip too. I remember crossing the White Mountains and stopping at the Old Man face (still there at the time). So, watching this video brings up uge emotions. If you have more information about this appartment building and more shooting of it I would be curious ot see it. Thanks a lot and have a great day. Conrad
i enjoyed this video. my mom grew up on dubuque street until the fifties and my grandmother lived in that house until she died in 1976. it was beautiful. it was not far from st. marie's which is where my parents were married.
I think the fire station burned when food was left on the stove as the firemen were out on a call
Great video , I grew up in this neighborhood. Great memories . Thank you for doing this !
Yes Mom , we did grow up in this neighborhood ❤❤
As a dirt biker who constantly lugs beer to remote places my first instinct was to
think
“Oh Nooo just hide the beer up there on the Rock and you will only need to bring a bit of ice next time”
But since you appreciated the nice score so much and intended to put them to good use immediately as a post hike treat i had to give you a pass as would the thoughtful light weight that kindly left them for you. 🎉
@billyarsenault1970 You commented on the wrong video , but yes, the 3 Coors was a score 👍
Great video. I too grew up on the west side. I do ask you check your memory as I went to Ste. Marie’s school as well. Early 70’s That parking lot next to the church and Champagnes Market was paved then.
@user-dn8te9mt6e I just have a feeling that a row of buildings was present in that location , long before our time as not much information or pictures exist of the area from 100 years ago, b ut yes, I do recall the dirt parking lot.
I was born on Laval Street in front of Norman's bakery and went to Rimmon school for grade school we used to walk from Laval Street to Rimmon School four times a day there was no lunch at the school We needed to go home for lunch your video brought back memories to me i remember what message to used to be it is not like that anymore.
I lived on rimmon st ..i miss Manchester so much
My mother grew up in that white house on corner of Dubuque and Amory. Lots of memories. Thanks for sharing.
Hi! I used to live around the block from the ‘Aquarium’ store as a kid but at that time it was Roy’s Market. Can you get any info on Mr Roy and his store?
I didn't look to hard into those small stores as not much information could be found but I may look again in the future . It's often best to go to the FaceBook all about Manchester , New Hampshire History and ask as many people grew up in that area . I was still very young when the Aquarium store was present as that's all I can remember , but in these videos I like to go as far back in time as possible . facebook.com/groups/1562051994040817/
That’s such a shame about the Granite Square section of the west side. That was a beautiful block. You would be a great candidate to serve on the Manchester Historic Association or the Manchester Heritage Commission if they’re looking for members. It looks like the only real historic districts in Manchester are in the mill yard. (I looked on their map). Also, the NH Preservation is looking for preservation tradesmen to add to their repertoire of references. Get involved!! Help reduce the loss of historic architecture. 😊
As someone new to New Hampshire and Manchester, I'm enjoying learning about my new city through your videos. I walk around Manchester awestruck by the historic buildings, especially magnificent ones like Sainte Marie Roman Catholic Church. I'm not a fan of the vinyl siding on so many of the homes either. So, I'm delighted to hear there's something likely better quality and better looking underneath it. What material is usually under the vinyl siding and why would they cover it with vinyl?
Most people that move here don't care about the history and others take it for granted so it's cool that you noticed 👍 Manchester is a neat old city as its one of the more historic cities in the USA . I tend to pay attention to pre-1940 buildings as after the war most buildings started to be built cheaply and mainstreamed instead of crafted. The prior 1940 buildings were finely crafted out of wood as most were very detailed, due to lack of maintenance mainly due to slumlords that are too cheap to paint the buildings every 10-15 years most have been covered in Vinyl siding . Even many of the ugly tenant buildings throughout the city were once nice looking buildings.
The banning of lead paint also contributed heavily to the vinyl epidemic as strict rules used to be enforced to work with lead painted houses . Although I'm a house painter thats worked on many of them over the past 20 years , I've yet to see the EPA rules enforced and have only heard of 1 story of the rules being enforced as I've been around and have met a lot of painters in my life. With common sense lead can be worked with safely as many contractors are willing to do this type of work , but the main issue as I stated is the slumlords and real estate investment groups as they can easily afford to paint these houses every 12-15 years but choose not to.
In 2023 the typical 3 tenant apartment building , even in the worst parts of the city generate $4500-6500 per month but many are not maintained as there's no excuse as Slumlords are so cheap that they don't even do yard maintenance. I know a contractor that works for one of these slumlords that owns multiple tenant buildings that gets $2,200/month per unit through section 8 for example. NO EXCUSE
Also if you enjoy walking in the city , take a walk up Prospect street as a handful of painted Victorians are still present on the corner of Linden st , with the foliage it's a very pretty area .
@@manchesterexplorer8519 Thanks for the detailed explanation!
@@manchesterexplorer8519 Will do. Thanks!
It caught fire while the firemen were all fighting another fire. The fire was caused because they left food on the stove.
8:01 Champagn's Super Market became the home of Vista foods. I worked there in 1999. At the brick two story part of the building had a few other businesses. One being a Manchester Pawn Shop located at the corner portion of the brick two story part. I have photos of the Valley St Plaza shopping area which included Vista foods, ColorTyme, Bambo Garden, the State of NH Welfare offices and Family Dollar. Speaking of which, Family Dollar, was originally located where the SNHU Arena is now. When the large plaza that had Family Dollar on Elm St. (80's Ames Dept Store) was to be torn down Family Dollar moved to the Valley St. Plaza. I worked at Family Dollar from 2006-2009.
Great video - very informative. Just one clarification.... Manchester Fire Station #6 was in-service as a fire station when it burned. I believe the on-duty crews were out of the station on a training evolution when the building caught fire; not sure of the actual cause.
Good to know , I was 12 years old when it burned as I couldn't quite remember 👍
I think food was left on the stove when the fireman were out on call
I agree with you on the Victorian home there. They are quite intricate and took months, or even a year or more to build back then, mostly because there really werent any power tools, and the craftsmen who built them had some seeious skills, and usually tons of experience plying their trades. I have been in a few of those old houses, usually tearing out the antique horsehair plaster on the walls, and Gad, what a horendous mess that crap makes! If you arent wearing a full painters spray suit when youre doing it, youre going to be wearing the stuff for days, going crazy because it always ends up in spots you do NOT want it to go!
You're going to have quite the series on video by the time youre done. What a great gift for your gtandchildren and great grandchildren! They wont even be able to recognize Manchester as far back as you go, if the politicos get what they want, -generic, same-looking buildings with no character or craftsmanship. Construxtion has lost most of its individuality, and Im 60, and we had Industrial Arts, half the 8th grade year, and Home Economics the other half. I started grammar school in 1970 at 6 years old, and even then, the historic town of Northborough, Massachusetts, (a little more than an hour drive South from Manchester, down route 3 to 495 south to rte. 20 west. There, and every town between Worcester & Boston, and North all the way to the NH border are fascinating historic towns, battlefields, cemetaries, and literally thousands of homes and buildings, Statues and Monuments dedicated to the hundreds of thousands of Men & Women, who played their own special roles in The French & Indian War, The Revolutionary War, the War of 1812, The Civil War (of the US), The Indian (Native American) Wars, which lasted from the 1500s all the way into the 20th Century, when The Massacre at Wounded Knee occured, and the Government finally figured out that it would be a crime against humanity to allow this continents indigenous people to cease to exist by allowing the US Army to commit genocide simply because the Native Peoples were transients, wandering tribes who had a different belief system, especially when it came to personal or private property, and their wandering nature just happened to 'get in the way of," the progressive all consuming nature of the White, European Settlers, whod basically stolen the entire continent from the Indians & Mexicans, and built this Great Nation on the very soil they once ruled over for millenia!!
I live in a 1919 home. The wood is old growth wood. It’s so hard. You can hardly get a nail into it termites don’t need it. Nothing penetrates it. We had the roof cut off the house when we moved it and it rained and it didn’t even affect the wood didn’t even phase it. It just dried out. It’s like it’s so hard. Nothing can even penetrate it.
That looks like the remainder of a lightning rod on the turret. The house by CMC Hospital wrapped in yellow vinyl.
Yes. very possible
Good video thanks
I was born in Manchester. My parents moved our family to Fort Lauderdale when I was in the second grade. I would love to see the house we lived in but I have no idea where it was.
Good video love the west side
In the 50's and 60's many of those houses were covered over with asbestos siding or asphalt siding which made them look far worse and only the well off could afford to have them re-painted correctly. As a vinyl installer I witnessed many re-sided over what had been done before and those few that weren't were in bad shape.At least vinyl siding looks like clapboards and not the other stuff being used before. People got what they could afford.
Yes , I see this quite often . Lead paint is also a huge culprit as when it was banned in 1976 , everyone was afraid of the EPA so they reverted to vinyl. The good thing is that many of the vinyled houses were in excellent shape prior to being vinyled as some homes may be restored in the future. Although much of the elaborately crafted pre-1940's trimwork gets removed prior to Vinyl as it can be quite a task to accurately restore a home that's been vinyl sided.
I used to specialized in restoring 1700's to 1940's homes and buildings but got tired of dealing with lead paint myself. Vinyl siding can look great if done right with a quality product , but most people choose to use the cheapest crap available and you end up with a building that resembles a plastic trash can 🤣
Amory Street has a lot of history.
Marx guy here, on Kelly Street is Shay Vashon still in business, I HOPE?
@plunkervillerr1529 Yes, Chez Vachon is alive and well.
i lived right behind on in dubuque for years miss it but manchester is turned into a sess pool
@jaybates1007 There's still some decent areas , but yes the city is not what it once was.
@ nope for sure kinda makes me sad i remember being able to run the city as a boy with zero worries but once i had kids i had to go but still there frequently
You didn't mention the aluminum siding and a lot of places stupidly took the aluminum siding off to replace with vinyl siding 💥💥🍔🍻🐿️
Yes they did , as well as asphalt and asbestos siding.
Please check your facts again. The fire house on Rimmon street was not arson. The fire crew left something on the stove cooking while they went to a training session at the airport. I was there the day it burnt. People including myself first thought the fire crew was in there as it was burning. We were standing on the south west corner of Rimmon and Amory and the fire was to hot we had to move away.
@@JMFL-f7o Thanks for the info.
I'm just a lot older figured I would let you no
As well as , asbestos , asphalt and masonite siding . They all look horrible on these old houses.
The granite steps 30 to 60 bucks for the Mason to do everything bring the stone there design and assemble the steps lol 💥💥🍔🍻🐿️
Hahahahaha before vinyl siding came out there was aluminum siding so you're missing some history 💥💥🍔🍻🐿️
@dogit1840 I'm well aware , I'm not missing anything.