Video updates: 1) The newer 2023/2024 Trek Marlin Gen 3 bikes have a hole in the back of the seat tube, so they can accept fully internal dropper posts! 2) Another option for a Trek Marlin dropper post is to get a wireless one. Definitely more expensive but would work! 3) You may be able to route an internal dropper if you use a different bottom bracket (i.e. hollowtech / DUB) but I have not tried either of those so I am not certain. That means there is still hope for the 2020-2022 marlins to have one routed through the BB!
I tried, you cannot fit in the plastic hollowtech tube after routing the cable through the BB.. I am going to drill the missing hole in the seat tube tomorrow instead.
What about the dub? I have a marlin 5 2022 with dub and eagle nx like a marlin 8 do u have to route it with the cable sleeve or can you just do bare metal
@Schimmelbeer Old post I know, but just thought I'd add, ypu can fit it if you use the Jagwire Pro dropper cable, it's thinner diameter allows clearance
I just installed an internal routed dropper on my 2022 Marlin. There is a slit under the bottom bracket where the cables for the rear brake and rear derailleur exits. If you look closely inside the slit, up at the inside of the seat tube, there is actually a cent size hole. You can route the cable through the downtube and directly through that hole to the seat tube. It is a bit of fiddling but it can be done.
As a 2021 Marlin owner, I was REALLY disappointed to find that there was no hole for the dropper post. Had I known this before buying, I would NOT have bought a Marlin. In fact, I would NOT have bought a Trek at all. Only reason keeping this is due to current bike shortage. I do have another bike on order and will get rid of this Marlin as soon as I get my other bike.
The Marlins are really great bikes. I had a 2019 black and volt colored XXL Marlin 6. I loved that bike and had minor upgrades that made the bike even better. It was great starter bike for me on the trails. I recently sold it and picked up a 2021 Specialized Stumpjumper comp in an S5(xl). I dropped down a size for better handling. The stumpjumper is phenomenal but I can say the Marlin was still a solid bike.
I also had a 21 Marlin 7, and I was disappointed with it. The fork was... Kinda garbage, which would have been ok if it had a tapered headtube, but it doesn't. I also had a number of issue with the rear wheel, which again was hard to replace as 29 inch wheels with the older QR standard are difficult to find. I ended up having to have my rear wheel replaced twice in 6 months, then started ruining the third when I sold it. Add to that the lack of an internal dropper hole in the seat tube, and it made for a rather disappointing bike.
Yea...I'm just finding out has to be external routed (at least the seat post part). Seems just like a dumb marketing tactic to push people into more expensive bikes. For over 1k, they already had the 1 top hole drilled out, literally no other reason than monitary incentive to not drill the second, especially when the older 2019 model had it lol. Love the bike so far, but that design flaw is just retarded.
@@getstrongby4038 I think "most" people would just assume this type of bike at this price point would have a hole at the bottom of the seat tube for the cable routing, but guess everyone should actually look. Trek USED to. My son's 2019 Specialized Rockhopper Comp does. Why would Trek STOP making that frame feature?? Bad move, Trek
3 years old and this video was a huge help. I bought a 2023 marlin 6 gen 3 and was looking for this answer. Guess im going to have to go half external and half internal. Thank you so much for the detailed video!
No problem! And actually on that note, the Marlin 6 Gen 3 does have a hole behind the seat tube to internally route a dropper, so you can go full internal on that bike. The Gen 3 bikes weren’t released at the time of me making this video
Wow sorry I totally blanked there. There isn’t a hole in the seat tube, it actually routes internally a different way. If you flip the bike upside down you’ll see a flat slit hole that cables come out of, so you just route it there and it comes back up through the seat tube. Sorry if that explanation isn’t the best over text haha but it does work
This is a really helpful video. I’m looking to get a Trek Marlin 7 for my wife and now I know what to expect when it comes to fitting a dropper. Thanks for sharing and stay safe.
Awesome. Got my red Trek Marlin 5 August of 2021. Love it but wish the seat had a dropper post. Bike store said NO They don't fit my bike. Guess bike store was full of it.
I'm doing it, dont' have a warranty second hand, private sale so what size hole would "theoretically" need to be drilled to instal the pnw loam dropper lever on pnw coast suspension dropper internally routed?
Just drilled my this for my son's. Picked the bike up in new condition second hand. Drilled it today for that same post you're looking at. I did a 1/4 angled up and a small pilot was started.
Great video. This is why I've chosen not to buy a new Marlin 6 and instead upgrade the drivetrain, tires and cockpit on my 2019 Marlin 7 and put in a 100% internally routed PNW Range 125 dropper post. The dropper post is in my top 3 of game changing upgrades. along with the 1x10 drivetrain and tubeless tire conversion. As for the structural soundness of the frame, I'm technically obese and over age 50 and have taken several bad falls on it. I took it to my LBS and they didn't raise any concerns after a particularly bad crash that put me in the hospital last fall. I'm literally a crash test dummy but me and my Marlin are still hitting the trails - though I admit I'm taking it very easy now!
That’s awesome!! Sorry to hear about all your crashes, but so glad that the bike is working out for you and holding up against all of that. Happy that you’re having fun!
@@TalalipopMTB Thank you. FWIW I bought the Marlin 7 with the expectation, opinion and previous experience that a bike should be able to last more than a couple of years and felt that it was a great "jack of all trades" bike that can do everything but not excel at anything. My mishaps are from not respecting the limitations in travel and geometry and my own limited skills. My ultimate goal is to take it bikepacking.
Greetings from the UK. Why did trek stop putting the hole at the bottom of the seat tube seems like a step back… I have a marlin 7 2021 and it annoys me that I cant easily put Internal dropper post. I love the bike other than that. Thanks for this video it was exactly what I’ve been looking for..
So my 2018 Roscoe 7 has a hole at the right top and bottom of the downtube to feed the cable though and the hole at the bottom of the seat tube but I am wondering how to route the cable after it comes out of the right bottom side of the downtube into the hole on the left side of the seat tube. Should it go below the bottom bracket or just bend around the back of the seatpost?
Yea I’m a little short and the lost won’t down further I looked down the tube and there’s a welded metal piece blocking the post from going down further? I was like dam I have to cut the post or the metal piece blocking the post
Is there an obvious reason as to why they left out the hole on the newer frames? Would the thinking have been that having that hole there unused would enable a bit of grit and moisture to get inside the frame and fall down to the bottom bracket?
Not sure honestly. I speculated that it could be so they would push people to purchase the higher end models like the Roscoe and X-Caliber, but they released new marlins recently with the dropper compatibility so that may not be exactly right.
I was curious about the frame warranty, so I took a look at the paperwork and for my 2022 Marlin 6, changing any component voids the entire warranty. So if you install any dropper your warranty is gone whether you drill a hole to allow for internal routing, or not. Changing the fork also voids the warranty and I’ve already done that so I guess warranty isn’t something I need to worry about when installing my new dropper.
Trek’s warranty team is pretty good in my opinion. Your warranty on the bike should still be valid as long as the issue isn’t related to the part you installed. If you put a new fork on your bike and the frame cracks somewhere else, your warranty should still be valid to replace the frame. That’s my experience from working at Trek, but there could be some cases where the line is harder to draw
Great explanation, I have a 2021 marlin 6 , now to find a long enough cable to use on the down tube considering I carry my bile under the top tube and don’t want a cable on that tube
Is there a part # for that little grommet that comes on the 2019's seat tube? I ask as someone who is not concerned with the warranty, but would like it to look as OEM as possible.
As a marlin 4 owner (baught it in 2021) im pretty sure the warranty is over anyhow, so if i was to drill a hole in the frame for the internal dropper post, would it weaken the aluminum frame significantly enough where its dangerous to ride or is it just from a 'im not responsible for you getting hurt' standpoint? Because i really need a dropper post as i have back condotions but riding is whats keeping me going, so having an adjustable seat will be a game changer..... but i dont have a spare £1500 to get a new bike just for a lousy hole😂
Trek warranties bike frames for life, so you’re warranty fortunately or unfortunately won’t ever end. I’ve seen people drill that hole before and be fine and I personally think it’s more related to your second point of “we’re not responsible for you getting hurt.” I won’t tell you to do it either haha, but I think it should be fine. There’s always the option of an externally routed dropper post though which would be easier
@@TalalipopMTB youre a star! I dont mind it being voided, theres always a reason they cant do an inspection under the warranty anyhow😂 cables gotta be hidden, im always getting tangled or caught in them aha. Looks to be about a 6mm hole would you say?
Thank you! I'm personally unsure of what the exact hole size would be, but 6mm seems right since it just needs to be bigger than the cable housing going through the hole, and cable housings are usually 4-5mm in diameter. Probably can't hurt to start smaller though
I have a Marlin 8 2nd gen. I bought a dropper post and surprise! You can't insert the cable from the bottom into the seat tube! Is there a way? Mam Marlina 8 2. gen. Kupiłem sztycę opuszczaną i tu niespodzianka! Nie można włożyć linki od dołu do rury podsiodłowej! Czy istnieje jakiś sposób?
They’re for installing a water bottle cage, however removing the bolts won’t do anything since the threads in the frame stick out so the seat tube does not go below that point regardless
@@TalalipopMTB... Now where did I put that drill-bit? 🤔👀 Haha, only joking. Looks like it's gonna be a ext/int routed dropper for me when I finally get one.
Kinda off topic from this video. I really want to get back into MTB but the last time I wanted to buy a bike from my local Trek Superstore I ended up being sold a different bike instead. I can’t remember which bike it was I wanted but I was sold the Trek 3500 instead. I have a model in mind with a budget of $1500 but I’m afraid that if I go back to the same Trek store that they may end up selling me something different that I don’t want. Although I am kinda stuck between the Trek Roscoe 7 or the Giant Fathom 2. I really like the Fathom’s frame design with the third bottlecage attachment spots on the downside tube. The Roscoe 7 doesn’t have that option. I want the plus size tires and air shocks along with a dropper post. The Trek 3500 I had before it was stolen was okay for road use but I didn’t like how it handled on the trails with the front coil shocks and the smaller size tires when riding in loose n sandy dry washes. My plan is to get a bike when the supply issues are resolved so that I can hit the Stagecoach 400 & the Impossible Trail in the future. I just really need some advice on which on I should get. TIA
Was at Landis bike store in phx today servicing my marlin 5 trek. Asked about possibility of a droppost for my bike. Was told no, they only fit in a squish bike. What about the size of the seatpost. Do you know what the marlin 5 from 2021 measures? Cool video. Lucky mom. Your a good son.
My Marlin 7 2023 is currently in for maintenance and I'm getting them to install a 32 tooth chain ring at the same time, they think it could fit up to 36 though. You should be good if you can find the right size.
Correct, though some people have mentioned routing it through the bottom bracket with certain dropper posts. I’m unfamiliar with that process personally though
Guys can give me some of knowledge? My seatpost marlin 7 2021 size 31.6 so if I need make upgrades for new seat post clumps what is exactly size I will take it coz I’m confused I get A lot of deferent ideas
It actually just came on the 2019 Trek Marlin 7 when I bought it used; the person I bought it from probably just left the bike in the sun too long. Not sure though!
About to switch to hollowtech ii, gonna try routing internally to see if it works. Poor placement of bottle cage mounts on the seat tube (too high up) prohibit use of a dropper with much travel anyway, sadly
@Lips It fits, if using Jagwire Pro's dropper cable. It's 0.8mm in diameter rather than the usual 1.2mm cable so it clears the Hollowtech II BB. Unfortunately, the bottle cage lugs stop the dropper from going down far enough, so I actually took it off. Lol
Ah well, I have a 2021 Marlin 8, so no nice and tidy internal routing for me. As for external options, I personally think running the cable along the top tube looks better than running it down the seat tube and then through the frame.
Thanks for the video. I'm trying to put a dropper post on my partners 2021 Marlin 7 but discovered the screws and plugs for the bottle cage stop the dropper post going in far enough. Can the plugs the bottle carrier screws into inside the frame be removed?
This channel helps my ADHD very bad too as well as writing I'm getting ready to buy a newer mountain bike I'm looking at the Trek Marlin 5 Gen 2 I have between 5 and 600.00 to spend right now what would you recommend?? It can be any bread I like that specialized but I want a hardtail😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤
I saw an interesting way to route the cable and wanted to hear your opinion. The person internally routed but used the bottom hole for the water bottle then routed it down and up through the frame. Hopefully that makes sense.
Does that mean they did not use the hole at the top of the frame at all? I’m imagining a half inside / half outside routing style here but I may be misinterpreting it
@@TalalipopMTB yeah so half inside half out. After more talking with him I guess he drilled out the bottom rivet for the bottle cage. Then routed the cable from that hole up to internal dropper. Ran the cable down and through the holes near the bb and up out the frame.
Before I sold my 2019 Marlin 6, I was running a 29x2.60 in the front and a 29x2.40 in the rear. It was a xxl frame so my bike definitely sat up even higher. The gripped even better. It was definitely heavier with that setup but it gripped great when cornering.
2021 Marlin 7 mines partial internal because of the lack of Trek and the wisdom to make it even possible to do all internal without voiding the Warrenty
There's a slit under the bottom bracket I'm looking at getting a trek Marlin 5 Gen 2 July 4th I have 6 years sober off alcohol in September I'll have 7 years clean off all drugs and I wanted to spoil myself with a badass mountain bike❤❤❤❤ I race Motocross and always had a badass mountain bike growing up🎉🎉❤❤
That is very disappointing I wish I had more knowledge about dropper posts before I bought my 2022 trek marlin 7, oh well I guess next bike i but I'll know what to look for, thanks for the vid really helpful✌️
Hi there, I'm looking around for a dropper post for my Marlin 7 2019 frame and this video was a great help. How much seat post travel would you recommend for the 2019 frame?
Hello I have a 2021 trek marlin 5 and I’m looking to upgrade it and add a dropper post! I like the idea of the half external and internal dropper post you mentioned. My question which dropper post would you recommend and how long should the wire ultimately be? Tia
Hey!! i really enjoy your vids, i just recently watch your comparisson between m8 and rockhopper and i decided to buy the new m8. so my question now is, can i upgrade the chainring in order to have more speed on flat surfaces? pls make a video of that!!
My bike (2023 Marlin 7) is actually getting that upgrade right now. It comes with 28 teeth chain ring, I'm upgrading to a 32. Combined with the slower speed, it was also because of the top 2 gears being useless because at the point I needed them for my strength, I wouldn't have traction unless I was on pavement.
Question for you, i purchased my 2022 Marlin 5 pre-owned, so i'm not the original owner and I don't have any proof of original purchase, which means, I actually don't have a warranty any further as I cannot produce the original proof of purchase. So since I already don't have warranty, I'd be okay to drill that hole in the seat tube, but wondering why you think there will be structural damage? TREK did it on the 2019's as per your video. I may mar the paint a bit, but just trying to understand what kind of structural damage drilling a hole would do.
it's close to the bb and you'll have stresses going down the tube due to you sitting on top of it which can couse some unwanted stresses on the little hole you just drilled there's a reason why there is a thicker part around the 2019 dropper hole as it is for strength
Another reason not to waste your money on Trek Marlin...both the Rochopper and Talon are internal dropper post compatible at around the same pricing point...
its very odd that trek would go from including that back hole in the older models to now only including 1 of 2 holes. suppose that's what sets these beginner bikes apart from their more expensive bikes. which is unfortunate, cause for some this bike is already pretty pricey.
Great video! Glad to see you back again!! You should really think about putting a 1x crankset on your marlin. I guess it isn't needed anymore as you have your Enduro but it would still be cool. (I also want to know if you can put a 2 piece BB inside my Marlin 5 even though it comes with a square tapper BB. Will the shell fit one?
Good day! You sold me on the 2022 Marlin 6 on your previous videos. It’s incredible. I was hoping to put in an external dropper post. Do you have Any recs for a size small frame?
Do people really care about warranties anymore? I mean do they truly pay out? Yes a part might be warrantied but what about the work that was done on the spend? It's like yea I'll get you a penny back on the $5 spent....🤦♂️
Video updates:
1) The newer 2023/2024 Trek Marlin Gen 3 bikes have a hole in the back of the seat tube, so they can accept fully internal dropper posts!
2) Another option for a Trek Marlin dropper post is to get a wireless one. Definitely more expensive but would work!
3) You may be able to route an internal dropper if you use a different bottom bracket (i.e. hollowtech / DUB) but I have not tried either of those so I am not certain. That means there is still hope for the 2020-2022 marlins to have one routed through the BB!
I tried, you cannot fit in the plastic hollowtech tube after routing the cable through the BB.. I am going to drill the missing hole in the seat tube tomorrow instead.
@@Justinb81 Thank you for that info! Hopefully it works out the other way then
What about the dub? I have a marlin 5 2022 with dub and eagle nx like a marlin 8 do u have to route it with the cable sleeve or can you just do bare metal
check my chanel, Alreadt did it smoothly without drilling.
@Schimmelbeer Old post I know, but just thought I'd add, ypu can fit it if you use the Jagwire Pro dropper cable, it's thinner diameter allows clearance
I just installed an internal routed dropper on my 2022 Marlin. There is a slit under the bottom bracket where the cables for the rear brake and rear derailleur exits. If you look closely inside the slit, up at the inside of the seat tube, there is actually a cent size hole. You can route the cable through the downtube and directly through that hole to the seat tube. It is a bit of fiddling but it can be done.
is this apllicable to trek marlin 6 gen3? im planning to buy DP
and my first option is to drill a hole until i saw your comment 😅
can you send a picture of your marlin?
@@grindelwald_5306 I do not have Your e-mail address?
any update?
@@grindelwald_5306 To which address?
As a 2021 Marlin owner, I was REALLY disappointed to find that there was no hole for the dropper post. Had I known this before buying, I would NOT have bought a Marlin. In fact, I would NOT have bought a Trek at all. Only reason keeping this is due to current bike shortage. I do have another bike on order and will get rid of this Marlin as soon as I get my other bike.
The Marlins are really great bikes. I had a 2019 black and volt colored XXL Marlin 6. I loved that bike and had minor upgrades that made the bike even better. It was great starter bike for me on the trails. I recently sold it and picked up a 2021 Specialized Stumpjumper comp in an S5(xl). I dropped down a size for better handling. The stumpjumper is phenomenal but I can say the Marlin was still a solid bike.
I also had a 21 Marlin 7, and I was disappointed with it. The fork was... Kinda garbage, which would have been ok if it had a tapered headtube, but it doesn't. I also had a number of issue with the rear wheel, which again was hard to replace as 29 inch wheels with the older QR standard are difficult to find. I ended up having to have my rear wheel replaced twice in 6 months, then started ruining the third when I sold it. Add to that the lack of an internal dropper hole in the seat tube, and it made for a rather disappointing bike.
That's kinda your fault for not doing your research
Yea...I'm just finding out has to be external routed (at least the seat post part). Seems just like a dumb marketing tactic to push people into more expensive bikes. For over 1k, they already had the 1 top hole drilled out, literally no other reason than monitary incentive to not drill the second, especially when the older 2019 model had it lol. Love the bike so far, but that design flaw is just retarded.
@@getstrongby4038 I think "most" people would just assume this type of bike at this price point would have a hole at the bottom of the seat tube for the cable routing, but guess everyone should actually look. Trek USED to. My son's 2019 Specialized Rockhopper Comp does. Why would Trek STOP making that frame feature?? Bad move, Trek
3 years old and this video was a huge help. I bought a 2023 marlin 6 gen 3 and was looking for this answer. Guess im going to have to go half external and half internal. Thank you so much for the detailed video!
No problem! And actually on that note, the Marlin 6 Gen 3 does have a hole behind the seat tube to internally route a dropper, so you can go full internal on that bike. The Gen 3 bikes weren’t released at the time of me making this video
@@TalalipopMTBI have a gen 3 and see no hole on the seat tube?
Wow sorry I totally blanked there. There isn’t a hole in the seat tube, it actually routes internally a different way. If you flip the bike upside down you’ll see a flat slit hole that cables come out of, so you just route it there and it comes back up through the seat tube. Sorry if that explanation isn’t the best over text haha but it does work
This is a really helpful video. I’m looking to get a Trek Marlin 7 for my wife and now I know what to expect when it comes to fitting a dropper. Thanks for sharing and stay safe.
Thank you!! Glad it was helpful :)
Always great to see your reviews! Thanks to your review on the Trek Marlin 5 Model 2022 not long ago I had to get one back in early April!
Awesome!! Glad I could help out :)
Awesome. Got my red Trek Marlin 5 August of 2021. Love it but wish the seat had a dropper post. Bike store said NO
They don't fit my bike. Guess bike store was full of it.
Amazing info on multiple model years. love it
Thanks!!
The half internal/external is the route i went with my 2021 marlin 7. Satisfied with the result.
Nice!!
What dropper did you go with?
@@guskatzer9805 went with a budget dropper. Zoom
I'm doing it, dont' have a warranty second hand, private sale so what size hole would "theoretically" need to be drilled to instal the pnw loam dropper lever on pnw coast suspension dropper internally routed?
Just drilled my this for my son's. Picked the bike up in new condition second hand. Drilled it today for that same post you're looking at. I did a 1/4 angled up and a small pilot was started.
Great video. This is why I've chosen not to buy a new Marlin 6 and instead upgrade the drivetrain, tires and cockpit on my 2019 Marlin 7 and put in a 100% internally routed PNW Range 125 dropper post. The dropper post is in my top 3 of game changing upgrades. along with the 1x10 drivetrain and tubeless tire conversion. As for the structural soundness of the frame, I'm technically obese and over age 50 and have taken several bad falls on it. I took it to my LBS and they didn't raise any concerns after a particularly bad crash that put me in the hospital last fall. I'm literally a crash test dummy but me and my Marlin are still hitting the trails - though I admit I'm taking it very easy now!
That’s awesome!! Sorry to hear about all your crashes, but so glad that the bike is working out for you and holding up against all of that. Happy that you’re having fun!
@@TalalipopMTB Thank you. FWIW I bought the Marlin 7 with the expectation, opinion and previous experience that a bike should be able to last more than a couple of years and felt that it was a great "jack of all trades" bike that can do everything but not excel at anything. My mishaps are from not respecting the limitations in travel and geometry and my own limited skills. My ultimate goal is to take it bikepacking.
Yeah I agree with your statement on what the bike is intended for. Bike picking could work well on that rig in my opinion too!
This is a perfect video ... informative and entertaining ....just perfectly executed .....keep it up 👍👍
Thank you!!
@@TalalipopMTB no problem man ....just giving honor to whom honor is due
I was thinking this would only cool one room, but it does well at cooling the entire floor.
how about in marlin 8 2021, can it do internal cable for dropper post
Greetings from the UK.
Why did trek stop putting the hole at the bottom of the seat tube seems like a step back… I have a marlin 7 2021 and it annoys me that I cant easily put Internal dropper post. I love the bike other than that. Thanks for this video it was exactly what I’ve been looking for..
Glad I could help out! And in terms of the reason I’m not sure; might be to cut costs.
Because not putting the hole causes them to cut costs, and forces you to buy a higher end model that does come with dropper post provisions.
I read that Trek found that it became a weak point (the hole) on the frame. Sucks!
I would assume it was for technical reasons, because I can't imagine that eliminating a single hole during production would save that much in costs.
How about routing cable through where the bottle cage is attached? Do you think that would work?
Please make comparison video of merida big seven series and polygon xtrada series. I'm going to buy a new bike.
My mechanic actually did took the crankset out and successfully routed my internal dropper, no holes drilled, no warranty voided, lol
So my 2018 Roscoe 7 has a hole at the right top and bottom of the downtube to feed the cable though and the hole at the bottom of the seat tube but I am wondering how to route the cable after it comes out of the right bottom side of the downtube into the hole on the left side of the seat tube. Should it go below the bottom bracket or just bend around the back of the seatpost?
Excellent videos - very detailed and informative. Keep it up.
Thank you!!
What saddle is that on marlin 7?
I would like to know this too, did you ever find out
Yea I’m a little short and the lost won’t down further I looked down the tube and there’s a welded metal piece blocking the post from going down further? I was like dam I have to cut the post or the metal piece blocking the post
Is there an obvious reason as to why they left out the hole on the newer frames? Would the thinking have been that having that hole there unused would enable a bit of grit and moisture to get inside the frame and fall down to the bottom bracket?
Not sure honestly. I speculated that it could be so they would push people to purchase the higher end models like the Roscoe and X-Caliber, but they released new marlins recently with the dropper compatibility so that may not be exactly right.
@@TalalipopMTB My Xcaliber 7 2022 don't have the seat tube hole... Sad...
I was curious about the frame warranty, so I took a look at the paperwork and for my 2022 Marlin 6, changing any component voids the entire warranty. So if you install any dropper your warranty is gone whether you drill a hole to allow for internal routing, or not. Changing the fork also voids the warranty and I’ve already done that so I guess warranty isn’t something I need to worry about when installing my new dropper.
Trek’s warranty team is pretty good in my opinion. Your warranty on the bike should still be valid as long as the issue isn’t related to the part you installed. If you put a new fork on your bike and the frame cracks somewhere else, your warranty should still be valid to replace the frame. That’s my experience from working at Trek, but there could be some cases where the line is harder to draw
Great explanation, I have a 2021 marlin 6 , now to find a long enough cable to use on the down tube considering I carry my bile under the top tube and don’t want a cable on that tube
Thanks!!
Is there a part # for that little grommet that comes on the 2019's seat tube? I ask as someone who is not concerned with the warranty, but would like it to look as OEM as possible.
Did you ever find it? I'm thinking the same thing
As a marlin 4 owner (baught it in 2021) im pretty sure the warranty is over anyhow, so if i was to drill a hole in the frame for the internal dropper post, would it weaken the aluminum frame significantly enough where its dangerous to ride or is it just from a 'im not responsible for you getting hurt' standpoint? Because i really need a dropper post as i have back condotions but riding is whats keeping me going, so having an adjustable seat will be a game changer..... but i dont have a spare £1500 to get a new bike just for a lousy hole😂
Trek warranties bike frames for life, so you’re warranty fortunately or unfortunately won’t ever end. I’ve seen people drill that hole before and be fine and I personally think it’s more related to your second point of “we’re not responsible for you getting hurt.” I won’t tell you to do it either haha, but I think it should be fine. There’s always the option of an externally routed dropper post though which would be easier
@@TalalipopMTB youre a star! I dont mind it being voided, theres always a reason they cant do an inspection under the warranty anyhow😂 cables gotta be hidden, im always getting tangled or caught in them aha. Looks to be about a 6mm hole would you say?
Thank you! I'm personally unsure of what the exact hole size would be, but 6mm seems right since it just needs to be bigger than the cable housing going through the hole, and cable housings are usually 4-5mm in diameter. Probably can't hurt to start smaller though
@@TalalipopMTB you're a star! Ill start at 4.5mm and go from there. Thanks for taking the time to reply dude means alot🤙🏼
@@TheUnlikelyBaker369 Haha thank you! Happy to help :D and let me know if it ends up working out for you!
What external dropper post would you recommend for a Trek Marlin 8?
I use a Brand X ascend 2, does the job and doesn't break the bank
what do you call the cable guide that was installed at the bottom opening to be able to utilize the internal cabling
Fantastic channel and content!
Thank you!!
Any idea why Trek eliminated the hole for the dropper post in the seat tube?
I personally don’t know; I’d assume to save money but not certain.
Am sure to force people to buy a more expensive Trek model
I have a question, i have a 2022 version of the marlin 5, and idk which dropper post should I buy???
Option D : if you have enough cash laying around you can get a wireless dropper post
Oh yeah that’s an option too! Hahaha :D I’ll add that in the update comment!
Hai good morning where do buy a saddle on trek bike
Is a 2022 Trek Dual Sport 3 compatible for internal cable dropper post?
My marlin 4.. The cable is almost cutting by sharp tool, is there anyway to replace it? Cause the cable is inside the frame as you know
Good video, awaiting my Marlin 7 delivery!
Thanks!!
I have a Marlin 8 2nd gen. I bought a dropper post and surprise! You can't insert the cable from the bottom into the seat tube! Is there a way?
Mam Marlina 8 2. gen. Kupiłem sztycę opuszczaną i tu niespodzianka! Nie można włożyć linki od dołu do rury podsiodłowej! Czy istnieje jakiś sposób?
Most gen 3 marlins have dropper post capabilities, I have a Marlin 5 Gen 3 and it takes a dropper post perfectly fine!
@@midlands9999 Marlin 8 is done and works great!
What seat do you have on a marlin?thinking about b 17 ... just a thought...tnx
what are those two bolts in the seat tube for? They only block your seat from going farther down right? can i take them out?
So you can install a water bottle holder i believe
@@mazatleco2004 ok thanks.
They’re for installing a water bottle cage, however removing the bolts won’t do anything since the threads in the frame stick out so the seat tube does not go below that point regardless
@@TalalipopMTB thanks
Very helpful video, exactly what info I was looking for 👍
Glad I could help :D
@@TalalipopMTB... Now where did I put that drill-bit? 🤔👀 Haha, only joking. Looks like it's gonna be a ext/int routed dropper for me when I finally get one.
HAHAHA
Is the dual sport 4 compatible?
Can be done with a Shimano or Sram GXP Crank
Kinda off topic from this video. I really want to get back into MTB but the last time I wanted to buy a bike from my local Trek Superstore I ended up being sold a different bike instead. I can’t remember which bike it was I wanted but I was sold the Trek 3500 instead. I have a model in mind with a budget of $1500 but I’m afraid that if I go back to the same Trek store that they may end up selling me something different that I don’t want. Although I am kinda stuck between the Trek Roscoe 7 or the Giant Fathom 2. I really like the Fathom’s frame design with the third bottlecage attachment spots on the downside tube. The Roscoe 7 doesn’t have that option. I want the plus size tires and air shocks along with a dropper post. The Trek 3500 I had before it was stolen was okay for road use but I didn’t like how it handled on the trails with the front coil shocks and the smaller size tires when riding in loose n sandy dry washes. My plan is to get a bike when the supply issues are resolved so that I can hit the Stagecoach 400 & the Impossible Trail in the future. I just really need some advice on which on I should get. TIA
Get the fathom it has thur axels
Was at Landis bike store in phx today servicing my marlin 5 trek. Asked about possibility of a droppost for my bike. Was told no, they only fit in a squish bike. What about the size of the seatpost. Do you know what the marlin 5 from 2021 measures? Cool video. Lucky mom. Your a good son.
Thank you!! The diameter seatpost needed for the marlin 5 is 31.6mm. In terms of the length I’m unfortunately not completely sure.
Your videos are awesome. Marlin 7 2021 - recommendations on a changing the 28T chainring to a 34T chainring?
My Marlin 7 2023 is currently in for maintenance and I'm getting them to install a 32 tooth chain ring at the same time, they think it could fit up to 36 though. You should be good if you can find the right size.
Congrats on the new bike for your Mom.. do you have notes written somewhere to remember all of that? nice job and good info
Hahaha I just know the info since I’ve thought about it a lot :) but I have some general notes to remember what to cover
So the marlin 8, gen 2 cant do it internally?
Correct, though some people have mentioned routing it through the bottom bracket with certain dropper posts. I’m unfamiliar with that process personally though
Guys can give me some of knowledge? My seatpost marlin 7 2021 size 31.6 so if I need make upgrades for new seat post clumps what is exactly size I will take it coz I’m confused I get A lot of deferent ideas
Where did you bought that bronze seat clamp?
Where did you learn to speak English?
It actually just came on the 2019 Trek Marlin 7 when I bought it used; the person I bought it from probably just left the bike in the sun too long. Not sure though!
About to switch to hollowtech ii, gonna try routing internally to see if it works. Poor placement of bottle cage mounts on the seat tube (too high up) prohibit use of a dropper with much travel anyway, sadly
Did you ever try it out?
@Lips It fits, if using Jagwire Pro's dropper cable. It's 0.8mm in diameter rather than the usual 1.2mm cable so it clears the Hollowtech II BB. Unfortunately, the bottle cage lugs stop the dropper from going down far enough, so I actually took it off. Lol
Can i request video. Can xcaliber8 2022 install internal dropingpost?
Yes all new X-Caliber bikes can work with an internal dropper post! They have the hole on the seat tube.
Tank sir.
Hello! Would you happen to know if the Marlin 5 2022 can fit a dropper post?
I drilled the hole on a size S Marlin. It's a mass production frame. I am not bothered.
Hahaha awesome. I’m assuming it’s working out for you then?
Ah well, I have a 2021 Marlin 8, so no nice and tidy internal routing for me. As for external options, I personally think running the cable along the top tube looks better than running it down the seat tube and then through the frame.
Yeah I agree with that
Oddly. Mine does from the factory. Marlin 5 2020
Thanks for the video. I'm trying to put a dropper post on my partners 2021 Marlin 7 but discovered the screws and plugs for the bottle cage stop the dropper post going in far enough. Can the plugs the bottle carrier screws into inside the frame be removed?
No problem! And they are not intended to be removed so unfortunately there isn’t an easy way to do that :(
This channel helps my ADHD very bad too as well as writing I'm getting ready to buy a newer mountain bike I'm looking at the Trek Marlin 5 Gen 2 I have between 5 and 600.00 to spend right now what would you recommend?? It can be any bread I like that specialized but I want a hardtail😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤
Can install dropingpost to my xcaliber8 2022?
Yes you can!
Tank you sir.
I saw an interesting way to route the cable and wanted to hear your opinion. The person internally routed but used the bottom hole for the water bottle then routed it down and up through the frame. Hopefully that makes sense.
Does that mean they did not use the hole at the top of the frame at all? I’m imagining a half inside / half outside routing style here but I may be misinterpreting it
@@TalalipopMTB yeah so half inside half out. After more talking with him I guess he drilled out the bottom rivet for the bottle cage. Then routed the cable from that hole up to internal dropper. Ran the cable down and through the holes near the bb and up out the frame.
So he did use the holes in the top of the frame.
What is the frame made from?
Aluminum on all of them
another bottom bracket option would be swap to hollowtech then there is enough space for a cable
Oh interesting! I haven’t tried that yet so I wasn’t completely sure, but I’ll add that in the update comment as an fyi
I am undecided between a Marlin 8 nd an X-Caliber 9 2022.. .is the X-Caliber worth the money difference for occasional recreational use? thanks
Depends, I just got a marlin 8 and it's great
But it's also the first bike I've owned for 10 years, it's leagues ahead of anything i had
Hi. Have you any info or idea on trek remedy 2022?? Is it coming soon? Geo ? Wheel size etc?
Thanks!!
Unfortunately no info on that model yet :( but i’ll make a video if it does come out!
What will be the maximum rim size and tire size for marlin 6.
Before I sold my 2019 Marlin 6, I was running a 29x2.60 in the front and a 29x2.40 in the rear. It was a xxl frame so my bike definitely sat up even higher. The gripped even better. It was definitely heavier with that setup but it gripped great when cornering.
Bought a 2022 marlin 8 and returned it when i found out that you cannot install a internal dropper.
Very helpful. Thank you!
No problem!
Thanks for the research
Of course!
2021 Marlin 7 mines partial internal because of the lack of Trek and the wisdom to make it even possible to do all internal without voiding the Warrenty
I put new tires on and they said my warrenty was voided
wtf why would they remove it?
Bro real life review of trek Marlin 6 PLEASE do
There's a slit under the bottom bracket I'm looking at getting a trek Marlin 5 Gen 2 July 4th I have 6 years sober off alcohol in September I'll have 7 years clean off all drugs and I wanted to spoil myself with a badass mountain bike❤❤❤❤ I race Motocross and always had a badass mountain bike growing up🎉🎉❤❤
What do you have in your guys shop marlin 7 ?
That is very disappointing I wish I had more knowledge about dropper posts before I bought my 2022 trek marlin 7, oh well I guess next bike i but I'll know what to look for, thanks for the vid really helpful✌️
Hi there, I'm looking around for a dropper post for my Marlin 7 2019 frame and this video was a great help. How much seat post travel would you recommend for the 2019 frame?
The seatpost travel also depends on your height and frame size of the bike, since taller riders usually need more travel
Beautiful brooo love it❤️🔥👍
Thank you!!!
Looking good bro
Thanks!! hahaha :)
Hello I have a 2021 trek marlin 5 and I’m looking to upgrade it and add a dropper post! I like the idea of the half external and internal dropper post you mentioned. My question which dropper post would you recommend and how long should the wire ultimately be? Tia
I bought and use a Brand X Ascend 2 dropper and the cable is 1.5m and it fitted fine, no need to cut the cable or housing
What's your opinion on lever dropper posts? I was going to get a Marlin 6 or 7 next weekend... might be back to the drawing table.
Hey!! i really enjoy your vids, i just recently watch your comparisson between m8 and rockhopper and i decided to buy the new m8. so my question now is, can i upgrade the chainring in order to have more speed on flat surfaces? pls make a video of that!!
My bike (2023 Marlin 7) is actually getting that upgrade right now. It comes with 28 teeth chain ring, I'm upgrading to a 32. Combined with the slower speed, it was also because of the top 2 gears being useless because at the point I needed them for my strength, I wouldn't have traction unless I was on pavement.
Question for you, i purchased my 2022 Marlin 5 pre-owned, so i'm not the original owner and I don't have any proof of original purchase, which means, I actually don't have a warranty any further as I cannot produce the original proof of purchase. So since I already don't have warranty, I'd be okay to drill that hole in the seat tube, but wondering why you think there will be structural damage? TREK did it on the 2019's as per your video. I may mar the paint a bit, but just trying to understand what kind of structural damage drilling a hole would do.
it's close to the bb and you'll have stresses going down the tube due to you sitting on top of it which can couse some unwanted stresses on the little hole you just drilled
there's a reason why there is a thicker part around the 2019 dropper hole as it is for strength
Another reason not to waste your money on Trek Marlin...both the Rochopper and Talon are internal dropper post compatible at around the same pricing point...
Super dumb question, I got 2022 Marlin 5 and no hole at the back, Could I Use one of the bottle holder holes to get the cable in?
Did you resolve that? I got the same idea and I will apply it haha
its very odd that trek would go from including that back hole in the older models to now only including 1 of 2 holes. suppose that's what sets these beginner bikes apart from their more expensive bikes. which is unfortunate, cause for some this bike is already pretty pricey.
In Canada the Marlin 7 is 1249.99$ before tax...
Great video! Glad to see you back again!! You should really think about putting a 1x crankset on your marlin. I guess it isn't needed anymore as you have your Enduro but it would still be cool. (I also want to know if you can put a 2 piece BB inside my Marlin 5 even though it comes with a square tapper BB. Will the shell fit one?
Yes it will fit
Option d get an electronic dropper from magura
Trek Marlin 8 I should be dropper ready
I have the Same Trek 6
Do you think there would be enough room in the bottom bracket if you converted to a DUB bottom bracket?
Good day! You sold me on the 2022 Marlin 6 on your previous videos. It’s incredible. I was hoping to put in an external dropper post. Do you have Any recs for a size small frame?
Confuses me as to what the newer Marlins wouldn’t have that routing option… and then goes away…. Ughhhhh
4:53 just a note to myself
Yep getting the drill out haha
Is the trek Marlin 5 2022 tubes ready wheel's
It uses inner tubes yes. It is not tubeless compatible.
@@TalalipopMTB are the Marlin 7 2021 wheels tubeless ready? The website says they are, but others have said they aren't 🤔
You always looked so baked. Lol
He cooked alright!
No you always looked so baked. Lol
WHY THE FUCK DID THEY REMOVE THE HOLE!?
Do people really care about warranties anymore? I mean do they truly pay out? Yes a part might be warrantied but what about the work that was done on the spend? It's like yea I'll get you a penny back on the $5 spent....🤦♂️
Just drill the hole guys. They forgot to drill it when they sent the plans to the Chinese factory where they are made. Their stupidity
Puff puff... PASS lol
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