The Blackmagic Design PYXIS 6K is EPIC - heres why

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  • @cinechimp
    @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +10

    The PYXIS 6k Full Frame Cinema is the best cinema camera for under 3,000 USD. Nothing even comes close to it on paper. But thats what I think, let me know your thoughts and it this camera is what your were wanting from a BOX camera…..

    • @ThomasTulak
      @ThomasTulak 5 місяців тому +3

      Look at the Zcam E2 F6, it’s also a 6K full frame cinema camera, and is exactly the same price as the Pyxis. Honestly, I’m on the fence between the two

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      ZCAM is an interesting company…why they aren't mentioned in the video?

    • @blialee4837
      @blialee4837 5 місяців тому +1

      Z cam f6 is the better option with better frame rates. Bs1h does literally everything the pyxis can do.. bM stuff always has an issue with electrical functions. There is an issue with their cameras.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      can you elaborate on what you mean with electrical functions? I have owned BMD cameras from the OG 2.5k and never experienced electronic issues. Smashed screens (bad camera assistant), black hole sun highlight clipping, but never electrical functions so Im curious what your experience has been.

    • @blialee4837
      @blialee4837 5 місяців тому +1

      @@cinechimp bm has mechanical issues with their cameras. If yours doesnt go out then your lucky. I own the ursa g2 and i got the dam black screen of death after owning it for a year and not shooting so much out of it to perserve it. I owned the og 6k for 3 years and nothing. Ive watched other people have issues with bm being unpredidicable. I will never own a bm camera again.

  • @ThomasTulak
    @ThomasTulak 5 місяців тому +13

    Idk, I might say Zcam is a competitor at that price point. The Zcam E2 F6 is also a full frame box and is also $3K… I’d love to see a comparison between these two cameras

    • @MtZionMediaPro
      @MtZionMediaPro 5 місяців тому +7

      BRAW

    • @MtZionMediaPro
      @MtZionMediaPro 5 місяців тому +3

      Also, black magic branding is a lot better than z cam. In addition to the codec world extremely well in DR

    • @ThomasTulak
      @ThomasTulak 5 місяців тому +1

      @@MtZionMediaPro Zcam has Zraw

    • @Bigcookfilms
      @Bigcookfilms 5 місяців тому +7

      @@ThomasTulak Can't use it in any nle

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      possibly

  • @warinzozenith
    @warinzozenith 5 місяців тому +3

    Finally Braw on Box .. i am ready for it and hope you guys too. 🎉

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      maybe they could change the name to BRAWBOX

  • @chrisbogart687
    @chrisbogart687 5 місяців тому +4

    It is undoubtably an outstanding platform to build your ultimate video rig from. It is a bargain.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      if you compare this style to the pocket style design, this is far superior

  • @cinobro6393
    @cinobro6393 5 місяців тому +4

    Is it just me or does it look like a Panasonic AF100?

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      ha! yes the image in the picture does - if you squint

  • @jujufactory
    @jujufactory 5 місяців тому +3

    No XLR. No internal ND. No Autofocus. Get the FX6.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      If thats what you need, the FX6 is a great camera

  • @champagnesocialist9301
    @champagnesocialist9301 5 місяців тому +4

    ZCAM F6 has open gate 3:2 6K raw at higher frame rates, ProRes and H.265, 4K 120p, 15 stops dynamic range, more lens mount options, internal NDs for PL and EF mounts. Much more camera for a similar price to the PYXIS

    • @champagnesocialist9301
      @champagnesocialist9301 5 місяців тому +1

      The important news from BMD isn’t the PYXIS. It’s the 2 flavours of URSA Cine. They will certainly be contenders for DPs who shoot Alexa/Venice/Red. Amazing specs on paper. If they truely can achieve 16 stops of dynamic range then they will shatter the current high end cinema camera market. The 65mm 17K model could be the biggest leap forward in digital cinema cameras since the original Alexa killed celluloid

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +3

      oh I agree with you, but I can only make one video at a time…. the red one killed film, at where I came up, then the alexa took over

    • @champagnesocialist9301
      @champagnesocialist9301 5 місяців тому +1

      @@cinechimp make a video with your thoughts on those URSA Cine models. Not only do they look like fantastic cameras, but the entire BMD ecosystem surrounding them appears phenomenal. They are cutting through the clutter of media storage, proxy creation, offline workflow… for cinema this is significant time saver

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      on it now, will release tonight

  • @waveland
    @waveland 5 місяців тому +4

    I have an Ursa Broadcast 6k that I don’t really use for broadcast (only straight filming), so downsizing to the Pyxis makes a ton of sense from my point of view. I can see this on a Tilta Lightweight Shoulder Rig with a follow focus (or even the DJI LiDAR system) for a run and gun setup that will be much easier on my shoulder. Strap a cell phone or hotspot to the side and you have instant proxies to the cloud for super fast turnaround such as with trade show and conference coverage. My pre-order is in. I can’t wait to get a closer look.

    • @smalldeekgeorge
      @smalldeekgeorge 5 місяців тому +1

      If rolling shutter is bad as on cinema 6k you better stick with ursa

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      yep that DJI lidar on this will rock.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      have to wait and see

    • @ThomasCristofoletti
      @ThomasCristofoletti 5 місяців тому

      It shoots only raw, so to be honest it doesn’t seem the right camera to cover events or broadcast. On a shoulder the screen would be quite an impediment, I imagine getting in contact with your face quite a lot.

    • @waveland
      @waveland 5 місяців тому

      @@ThomasCristofoletti The CC (which I shoot now on my shoulder) is 3” wider than the Pyxis and has the cables sticking out the side. The new design will stay out of my ear quite well by comparison, plus the quick access buttons are more readily available. Now it’s certainly not a hard core broadcast platform, but for quick turnaround social media postings from an event, it would work just fine using the proxies which can have a baked in LUT. But the lack of ProRes could be a problem for some settings where you need to do a direct media handoff. I don’t do those sorts of jobs very often however, and if needed I can always rig in a VideoAssist and get the ProRes that way.

  • @BlaqViper
    @BlaqViper 5 місяців тому +2

    While the price is the main draw, what its missing is glaring. Those hyping it up without experiencing it on a paid shoot may find themselves regrettably coming back down to Earth. I believe DM will take the tempeture of this offering and use the feedback to create the future Pyxes Pro that should have build in ND, shoot in ProRes, 14 stop range, 4K at 60 or even 120fps and 14 and maybe even 16 bit internal recording. With those upgrades, those hyping up the price of the Pyxis will also hype up a $4K to $5K price.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      Im not sure if the price of a pro version would jump up that much, the Ursa 12k dropped to 5999 at one point….and I dont think Blackmagic design would want the Pyxis line clashing like price wise. But who knows….balckmagic is running their own race now.

    • @andynonimuss6298
      @andynonimuss6298 5 місяців тому +1

      The Pyxis will easily overtake the Pocket Cinema cameras in terms of sales and popularity. The Pyxis has far greater mounting flexibility options over the Pocket Cinema Camera body style and its more professional box-style form factor will gather more respect from clients and other video professionals... rather than walking-in with a photography-style Pocket camera. Blackmagic has already stated they didn't want to add the NDs to keep the form factor as small and compact as possible. Pyxis will easily end-up being Blackmagic's number one selling camera, and with that they WILL have upgraded versions in 2025. It's a great time to sell-off your Pocket Cinema Camera to get into the Pyxis ecosystem this summer and then your Pyxis gear options and third-party options will be ready for an updated Pyxis version in 2025!

  • @simonesortino
    @simonesortino 5 місяців тому +4

    Mmm..same sensor 6k full frame of the pocket but now you need a external monitor and it could have been smaller as it is the same camera of 6kpocket..no nd filter..

  • @EricMoore790
    @EricMoore790 5 місяців тому +1

    I think it would also be a good future proof camera with it being 6K.

  • @JoeGunawanfotosiamo
    @JoeGunawanfotosiamo 5 місяців тому +2

    Not having mirrorless mount like E-mount is disappointing. Same with no internal NDs

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      yeah I think the L- mount alliance signing months ago would have quashed that

  • @spdcrzy
    @spdcrzy 5 місяців тому +2

    3:25 LOL. Just leave it rolling for eight hours nonstop...that's possible now isn't it?

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      I once had a director on a set of docu style TVCs for a big box brand have me shoot handheld for 22 hours straight - I even ate my lunch while standing, camera on shoulder recording interviews. We only stopped to change media cards, and batteries. We never stopped for water. So yeah some people / companies will milk you like that. I got paid very well….

    • @spdcrzy
      @spdcrzy 5 місяців тому +1

      @@cinechimp ...................................is that even legal?

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      brother…..my back was jacked for days…but yeah in OZ, that stuff happens all the time. First the producers got us to 10 for 8, then 12 for 10hr pay - then you end up raising your rates, and before you know it your making so much money in a day…..you just do it.

  • @ThunderbirdCreative
    @ThunderbirdCreative Місяць тому +1

    I keep going back and forth on it but ultimately I'm still getting one because of the form factor and battery life, we'll see if that is enough to overcome the cropping way in for faster the available faster rates. I really like the ff 6k because of the size but the battery life is terrible, with the improved bpu battery life I think it will hit a sweet spot for me

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  29 днів тому +1

      Thunderbird, you could be on the money

  • @MtZionMediaPro
    @MtZionMediaPro 5 місяців тому +3

    Buying one for sure!

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      these are going to sell by the truckload.

    • @MtZionMediaPro
      @MtZionMediaPro 5 місяців тому +1

      @@cinechimp 1000% as they should!

  • @NiTeHaWKnz
    @NiTeHaWKnz 5 місяців тому +1

    It honestly looks like a better prospect as a starter camera then the pocket series.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      I wonder how much longer the pocket line will continue to exist?

  • @dragontrikic
    @dragontrikic 5 місяців тому +2

    What about build-in ND?

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      Get a POCO and adapt the L mount to PL, solved.

  • @biglazybeastproductions
    @biglazybeastproductions 5 місяців тому +2

    I hope the camera has a faster sensor readout than the BMCC6K in Open Gate.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      yes this is something a lot of people are wondering….

  • @victorcasillas8057
    @victorcasillas8057 3 місяці тому +1

    So if there is no pro-res it forced you to shoot huge files in raw right. That is a big difference in file size. Am I right?

  • @RolandsBriedis
    @RolandsBriedis 5 місяців тому +1

    All I wanted was Ursa mini sensor in smaller form factor, so I can use it on DJI RS Pro.

  • @jean-david-ouellette
    @jean-david-ouellette 5 місяців тому +1

    I hope they’ll consider putting the ol 12k sensor in this new body

  • @gearienoxcuses3936
    @gearienoxcuses3936 4 місяці тому

    Not what I had in mind. I was hoping for something more along the lines of a well thought out camera with functional features like a SDI or HDMI, port at the front of the camera that will allow for a top mounted video monitoring.
    Maybe BMD will release a video assist (non-recorder) touchscreen monitor that will work via the front mounted USB-C port and allow for you to access the menu. That alone would have me excited about this camera.
    Interchangeable lens mounts would have been extremely nice. This would have allowed for 3rd party mounts with filter insert capabilities, but no. They didn’t think of that unfortunately.
    Finally I am disappointed that we don’t at least get 120 fps in 4k. I would have settled for 100fps and been happy, but again nope. Black Magic had the chance to make the perfect camera and instead gave us Yet another big screen on a camera that simply did not need it. That screen real estate could have giving way to dual XLR inputs, genlock and other features.

  • @YoramAstrakhan
    @YoramAstrakhan 4 місяці тому +1

    Panasonic BS1H is only $2,500. Dual ISO, full frame, SDI and HDMI out, and it's tiny. So yeah, I think it comes pretty close. The Blackmagic, being a Braw only camera, is a non starter for me.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  4 місяці тому +1

      I would agree with that, BRAW’s great, but PRORES is more widely adopted industry standard codec for fast workflows.

  • @johnrpittenger
    @johnrpittenger 5 місяців тому +1

    Wonderful camera except its missing autofocus..... Yes i know there is lidar but lidar dies not have eye detection, so many times it seems slightly off focus. I think this camera is perfect for low budget films but with no autofocus many people will not want to use this camera.

    • @OkOk-rn7to
      @OkOk-rn7to 28 днів тому

      I always wonder about who needs autofocus, vlogger? I have never trusted autofocus however good, unless you are filming fast moving objects. But for movie sets, never seen the need. Besides, the lenses I use have no autofocus.

    • @johnrpittenger
      @johnrpittenger 28 днів тому

      @@OkOk-rn7to if you're on a gimbal on a low budget film autofocus is very nice to have. And like you said for fast moving objects it's all so nice to have autofocus. You're right you don't need it 80% of the time but there is still that 20%. Documentary work and low budget filmmaking autofocus becomes more important.

  • @jmac2050
    @jmac2050 5 місяців тому +2

    for 3k, you do Not get a lot, you get an expensive starting point.

  • @winstoncely5516
    @winstoncely5516 5 місяців тому +1

    Is the UHD signal sent out by the PYXIS SDI 8bit or 10bit? If it's 10bit, I would think this would be a decent enough to record via an external monitor, no? This would give ProRes workflows a chance in using this system, right?

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      Thats a very good question about the Pyxis….

  • @OrangeHouseMedia
    @OrangeHouseMedia 5 місяців тому +1

    BM is going to sell a ton of these.

  • @thetexaseagle
    @thetexaseagle 5 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for sharing, I think people who want Auto Focus will go to Sony which has one of the best Auto Focus!

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      I agree with you and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that choice.

  • @robertpaterson5477
    @robertpaterson5477 5 місяців тому +1

    Could the USB-C port at the front be used with a regular monitor with a USB-C to HDMI cable?

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      I dont think so yet, but some one will make a conversion box...

    • @robertpaterson5477
      @robertpaterson5477 5 місяців тому +1

      @@cinechimp I can run my mac display on my little Portkeys monitor with just a cable. I wonder if it's using the same protocol

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      maybe, if you try it out let us know for sure

  •  4 місяці тому +1

    Does it have any ibis?

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  4 місяці тому +1

      Good question, short answer is no, but the camera does a gyro that records camera position data which can really fix the unsteady shots inn post. And it works very well.

  • @angryrabbitproductions1690
    @angryrabbitproductions1690 5 місяців тому +2

    The future wouldn’t come with 6 year old sensor… just saying

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      oh I get you, no offence taken, the title is more about the design, I think the pocket line will disappear now, this is BMD way forward. But the sensor being 6 years old, this I would like to know more about….?

  • @andynonimuss6298
    @andynonimuss6298 5 місяців тому +1

    The Pyxis will easily overtake the Pocket Cinema cameras in terms of sales and popularity. The Pyxis has far greater mounting flexibility options over the Pocket Cinema Camera body style and its more professional box-style form factor will gather more respect from clients and other video professionals... rather than walking-in with a photography-style Pocket camera. Blackmagic has already stated they didn't want to add the NDs to keep the form factor as small and compact as possible. Pyxis will easily end-up being Blackmagic's number one selling camera, and with that they WILL have upgraded versions in 2025. It's a great time to sell-off your Pocket Cinema Camera to get into the Pyxis ecosystem this summer and then your Pyxis gear options and third-party options will be ready for an updated Pyxis version in 2025!

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      I believe you would be on the money

  • @50450720
    @50450720 5 місяців тому +2

    Really really disappointed in this model.
    They are using an old sensor with limited DR, and how come there's no inbuilt ND filters? Theyve changed battery type, but theres no V mount option, no interchangeable lens mount, no AF and no IBIS, no prores, no hdmi port, and the words worst screen placing!!!
    Honestly this is so disapointing.
    Id of paid 5k if this had the above!
    They had a chance to smash the market, but scored an own goal instead!

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      You have some fair points….but no camera is for everyone. Im interested to know if you are in the market for a new camera, which one you will now buy since the pyxis 6k has let you down so badly?

    • @50450720
      @50450720 5 місяців тому +1

      @CineChimp I am in the market for a replacement for my battered S1, I was really hoping that this blackmagic might offer me a chance to move to Blackmagic, but unfortunately it's a real letdown (imho) it looks like I'm staying with panasonic and getting a S5iix, but I'll hold off for a couple of months as I hear there may be a new model coming next month.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      I have a sneaky suspicion that an s1hmk2 is coming and if they ad some of the great features from the s5mkiix - would be a fantastic camera.

  • @cinemanicfilms2162
    @cinemanicfilms2162 5 місяців тому

    Wait? It has HDMI? I couldn't find any actual intel on this...

  • @deniss.6205
    @deniss.6205 5 місяців тому +1

    Game over.

  • @ThisIsLeeBird
    @ThisIsLeeBird 5 місяців тому +1

    Only comp right now (box camera in the price range) is the Panasonic BS1H. This blows it out of the water though. Love my BS1H though.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      Whats the BGS1H four years old now? Man it's such a good camera.

    • @SuperPhunThyme100
      @SuperPhunThyme100 5 місяців тому +2

      Panasonic needs to bring out a box style Varicam. Realistically however, don't think we'll ever see another Varicam again, but I'd kill to see them do it.

    • @ThisIsLeeBird
      @ThisIsLeeBird 5 місяців тому +1

      @@cinechimp yup. 4 years. I wish it had the new autofocus like the s5 ii

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      @@ThisIsLeeBird get the new lidar from DJI its seriously incredible…and you can put in on any lens with any camera combo you want … plus its cheaper than a camera

    • @ThisIsLeeBird
      @ThisIsLeeBird 5 місяців тому +1

      @@cinechimp I have the PD Movie Smart Air 3 one that does it also. I’ll get the DJI one with this new camera though. PD Movie one is a little bulky and not as sleek looking

  • @banjarafilms
    @banjarafilms 5 місяців тому +1

    what about sigma fp

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      Oh yes, now thats a very underrated camera

  • @geargeekpdx3566
    @geargeekpdx3566 5 місяців тому +1

    TAKE MY MONEY

  • @crankmosh
    @crankmosh 5 місяців тому +1

    the price is compelling... but I have no need for such a camera... I'll wait for autofocus

  • @APU658
    @APU658 5 місяців тому +3

    If you have anything to complain about this camera with the exception of the image that come out of it then you need counseling from a real boxer like Mike to get your head right.

  • @genxtechguy
    @genxtechguy 5 місяців тому +2

    This is the future? Bummer. No autofocus, no image stabilization, and no internal NDs in this “future”. 🫤 … sorry, this is very .. meh.

    • @migsflicks
      @migsflicks 5 місяців тому +3

      it’s not for you then, move along

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +3

      Think of it like this, accessories are a far better investment than over paying for a jack of all trades camera. Gimbals, lidar and NDS can go on any camera. I get your point, but the future comment is directed towards the change in body style, and switch to higher resolution FF multi-format sensors and how that has permeated throughout 2 BMD camera segments (Ursas and the new Pyxis). The future meaning, BMD wont turn back now - the pyxis this is the future of their affordable camera line ...

    • @melvinharris1210
      @melvinharris1210 5 місяців тому +6

      I really don't understand the logic behind lamenting not having internal NDs, internal ibis, and autofocus. If adding these things brings the cost up to the same amount as getting these things externally and adding them to a camera rig in a form factor that we've been begging for in order to rig it, then isn't it the same thing? I don't necessarily understand why have to spend the money inside the camera to pay the same amount outside the camera; and if we have been using cameras before the release of this one, shouldn't we have almost all the accessories we need to make this camera work? It just doesn't make much sense as an argument.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +3

      exactly

    • @johnrpittenger
      @johnrpittenger 5 місяців тому +1

      I think there is a work around for all that stuff you don't like. But where we do agree is autofocus.... Once lidar has eye detection I won't care about autofocus anymore. From my experience lidar seems slightly off because it misses the eye.

  • @BobbaFett-v7f
    @BobbaFett-v7f 5 місяців тому +4

    Needs 4k 120 fps.
    Other than that. Finally.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      maybe this could be added as a firmware update… its got to have some serious bandwidth with two cfexpress cards???

  • @JaymesMedia
    @JaymesMedia 5 місяців тому +9

    buying one

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      I do not think you will be alone there, thats for sure.

  • @caretakergamer
    @caretakergamer 5 місяців тому +3

    The banding issues on the Cinema 6K at 3200 still makes me rather nervous to go all in on the Pyxis. Even though the rolling shutter can be cleaned up in Resolve, the Broadcast G2 kind of beats it for now till people start getting their Pyxis for review and we will see from there.

  • @submariner1348
    @submariner1348 5 місяців тому +1

    Amazing product for the money, however the monitor is useless for a lot of shooting requirements. Need a monitor and can’t adjust settings as easily as the pockets. BM nearly made a perfect camera.

  • @JoATTech
    @JoATTech 5 місяців тому +1

    Yeah - DJI Focus pro comes to the rescue.
    I would love to try Ursa Cine 12k with DJI Focus Pro.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      Well that makes two of us...

  • @Spidouz
    @Spidouz 5 місяців тому +1

    I’m really curious to know if the Replay Editor controller could be useful for a regular Video editor, non-broadcast/live situation, but more about multicam video editing…

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      Possibly, I cant see why not - the speed editor ended being used for a lot of stuff that wasn't intended by BMD.

  • @sixfoot6films
    @sixfoot6films 5 місяців тому +1

    The could you put a Ninja on it be a monitor and record Prores ?

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      yes you could or a video assist...

  • @2424rocket
    @2424rocket 5 місяців тому +3

    The future is here? You mean lousy rolling shutter, bad dynamic range, terrible in low light? Do you think that’s the future…? Get a clue and buy a Sony camera. The FX 3 or the FX6 will blow this camera away in every possible category.

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +1

      if you say so captain

    • @SamuelObafemi
      @SamuelObafemi 5 місяців тому +3

      There's is always going to be this comment.

    • @captainobvious7449
      @captainobvious7449 5 місяців тому +1

      This camera is basically global shutter with the gyroscope

    • @cinechimp
      @cinechimp  5 місяців тому +2

      @@captainobvious7449 oh yes, why do always forget this, funny what you take for granted after a while….