@@WillieBrownsWeiner Ok, so her commend falls under the Vet techs, but she is specifically a food safety officer. Her day to day job is to go out and audit places that produce food for use by the military.
I'm looking forward to your video on a detailed explanation on Army logistics. It's an aspect of military operations that gets overlooked in favor of vehicles/equipment in documentaries despite being more important.
That’s something called the tooth to tail ratio… i.e how much support (tail) do you need for each front line soldier (tooth), and this varies over time. For WW1 the US Army’s T2T was around 1:2.6, WW2 1:4.3, Vietnam 1:12.9, Cold War 1:14.4…. Modern ~1:10
For our rotation at Polk in May, we had everybody attached to the 44th IBCT, quartermasters from New mexico- BSB from Georgia, it was crazy. Here in the Guard we are off the organazitional rocker. C 1-121 IN
Great Job! Most people lack an understanding of Sustainment especially at echelons above Brigade. Im glad you were able to catch all the recent changes and 82nd’s transfer of their BSBs. I hear rumors big changes to sustainment structure at echelons below brigade
Not a bad job but as a Logistics Officer I couldn’t help but notice a few discrepancies. Your symbols and terms don’t align with ATP 1-02 and more importantly your understanding of the relation between the FSC and BSB seems lacking. The BSB SPO office does not consolidate the FSC’s DISTRO PLT but submits the transportation and movement or logistic support request (TMR/LSR). On a smaller note; the reason that 82 ABN DIV has all of there BSB attached directly to the Division Sustainment Brigade (DSB) is because they are the “Guinea Pig” for the rest of FORSCOM . Eventually all BSBs will be attached to their DSBs but still serve the same role as directly supporting the maneuver brigade (BDE). Basically the BDE has operational control of the BSB but the DSB commander ultimately evaluates and rates the BSB commander. Please don’t take this the wrong way. Your video is not bad in any way. as I mentioned earlier noticed only a few discrepancies since I am a LOG officer. Looking forward to seeing your more comprehensive video
Thanks for the comment. Fair on the point about the SPO. I wasn't so much commenting on their normal role but a possible task organization. I was told by another log officer that the brigade can take up to 70% of the brigade's transportation assets to help with synchronization brigade-wide and was relaying that tidbit. I will talk more about the SPO's doctrinal role on the main channel but probably glossed over it too much in this one. On the point about symbology, I don't strictly follow the U.S. Army's style because I want to have a broadly applicable symbolset across countries. Most other countries seem to use a CSS acronym, or generic supply or admin symbols for their sustainment units rather than a combo of SPT/SUST acronyms, so I sort of want to pick just one. Reading French doctrine they use a ton of French-specific acronyms on their unit symbols and as an English speaker I find that to be very confusing, so I imagine a lot of the US Army's abbreviation-heavy symbols are hard to understand for my non-American/English as a 2nd/3rd language audience. But if there are any specific terms/phrases that were grossly misapplied let me know and I'll correct my usage of those in the future On the 82nd, I suspected they were going back to something more like pre-modular DISCOM with the forward support battalions. Is there anything public written on them being a testbed for BSBs under the DSB? I've only seen that's it's happened but haven't seen anything on the intent, although I've seen log officers talk about wanting their sustainment officers to be rated by other sustainment commanders rather than maneuver
@@BattleOrder2 I don’t doubt that the SPO office, working for their BDE can put the request to synchronize all distro assets especially for a BDE operation. I may have miss heard and assumed you meant the SPO was taking Operational control of the distro PLT and not tasking the company instead. That caught my ear because no commander would ever give their assets to a staff shop. At the moment, I am unable to find anything published on the BSBs move to the DSB. I can get some publications after the 4th once we’re all back in to office, (I’ve seen it mentioned somewhere but can’t remember). If find it I’ll send it your way. Don’t worry about the symbols. I’m US Army centric but you don’t have to be and using international symbols makes sense for exactly what your putting out. Like I said in my previous comment I’m glad to see someone take a serious look into military sustainment. I look forward to the main channel video and wish you and if success and views.
@@BattleOrder2 I stand by your use of symbols Sometimes too much detail blurs the bigger picture. And specially if that detail is undiscernable to the audience.
Tell him how much BSB leadership lies to BDE about the ESR Report and FMC/NMC fleet status. I remember reporting weekly that the platoon was 35% FMC average, with little help from maintenance on major repairs above Lvl 10 work. Then I got into the TOC late stage pre-rotation FTX to see 93% FMC. Lol. Army needs a separate independent Maintenance Inspector General to audit accuracy of BSB FMC reporting. A BSB might not even get audited during a CDR's hot seat, but the mere threat of an audit would keep them from lying.
As a BN S4 NCOIC in a Brigade Engineer Battalion (BEB) in an IBCT who works with an FSC from the BSB, it will be interesting to see how the alleged transition of the BEB to a division level (covered in another @BattleOrder2 video) asset will effect how we do logistics in support of a much larger AO.
Nice. What would really be interesting are the various types of Army Engineer Units other then the A &B company in a BEB.. The best I've been able to find is a 2014 SlideShare. Sapper companies, vertical construction, MR bridge companies, mobility augmentation companies, etc.
As an 88 series for a little over 9 years we are confusing af! Lol. Can be a joke small ass 20 person TC-DET or something amazing like support within the 75th and everything in-between.
What happend to this series? I would love to learn more about the detailed organizations of maneuver support units, especially logistics. As the saying goes amateurs talk tactics, professionals study logistics. And there are only so many videos about infantry or tank units I can watch ;)
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My wife is a food safety officer in the US Army, so I find this particularly interesting.
So she's a Veterinarian or Vet Tech? That's who does food safety in the US Army
@@WillieBrownsWeiner Ok, so her commend falls under the Vet techs, but she is specifically a food safety officer. Her day to day job is to go out and audit places that produce food for use by the military.
An army marches in its stomach!
I'm looking forward to your video on a detailed explanation on Army logistics. It's an aspect of military operations that gets overlooked in favor of vehicles/equipment in documentaries despite being more important.
The units that win wars.
Its always crazy how much is behind sustaining even 1 rifle soldier!
That’s something called the tooth to tail ratio… i.e how much support (tail) do you need for each front line soldier (tooth), and this varies over time.
For WW1 the US Army’s T2T was around 1:2.6, WW2 1:4.3, Vietnam 1:12.9, Cold War 1:14.4…. Modern ~1:10
For our rotation at Polk in May, we had everybody attached to the 44th IBCT, quartermasters from New mexico- BSB from Georgia, it was crazy.
Here in the Guard we are off the organazitional rocker. C 1-121 IN
Great Job! Most people lack an understanding of Sustainment especially at echelons above Brigade. Im glad you were able to catch all the recent changes and 82nd’s transfer of their BSBs. I hear rumors big changes to sustainment structure at echelons below brigade
Hopefully more maintenance support for the support.
FMC/NMC fleet status was a lie.
Broke as fuck vehicles being circle x to FMC
Not a bad job but as a Logistics Officer I couldn’t help but notice a few discrepancies. Your symbols and terms don’t align with ATP 1-02 and more importantly your understanding of the relation between the FSC and BSB seems lacking. The BSB SPO office does not consolidate the FSC’s DISTRO PLT but submits the transportation and movement or logistic support request (TMR/LSR).
On a smaller note; the reason that 82 ABN DIV has all of there BSB attached directly to the Division Sustainment Brigade (DSB) is because they are the “Guinea Pig” for the rest of FORSCOM . Eventually all BSBs will be attached to their DSBs but still serve the same role as directly supporting the maneuver brigade (BDE). Basically the BDE has operational control of the BSB but the DSB commander ultimately evaluates and rates the BSB commander.
Please don’t take this the wrong way. Your video is not bad in any way. as I mentioned earlier noticed only a few discrepancies since I am a LOG officer. Looking forward to seeing your more comprehensive video
Thanks for the comment.
Fair on the point about the SPO. I wasn't so much commenting on their normal role but a possible task organization. I was told by another log officer that the brigade can take up to 70% of the brigade's transportation assets to help with synchronization brigade-wide and was relaying that tidbit. I will talk more about the SPO's doctrinal role on the main channel but probably glossed over it too much in this one.
On the point about symbology, I don't strictly follow the U.S. Army's style because I want to have a broadly applicable symbolset across countries. Most other countries seem to use a CSS acronym, or generic supply or admin symbols for their sustainment units rather than a combo of SPT/SUST acronyms, so I sort of want to pick just one. Reading French doctrine they use a ton of French-specific acronyms on their unit symbols and as an English speaker I find that to be very confusing, so I imagine a lot of the US Army's abbreviation-heavy symbols are hard to understand for my non-American/English as a 2nd/3rd language audience. But if there are any specific terms/phrases that were grossly misapplied let me know and I'll correct my usage of those in the future
On the 82nd, I suspected they were going back to something more like pre-modular DISCOM with the forward support battalions. Is there anything public written on them being a testbed for BSBs under the DSB? I've only seen that's it's happened but haven't seen anything on the intent, although I've seen log officers talk about wanting their sustainment officers to be rated by other sustainment commanders rather than maneuver
@@BattleOrder2
I don’t doubt that the SPO office, working for their BDE can put the request to synchronize all distro assets especially for a BDE operation. I may have miss heard and assumed you meant the SPO was taking Operational control of the distro PLT and not tasking the company instead. That caught my ear because no commander would ever give their assets to a staff shop.
At the moment, I am unable to find anything published on the BSBs move to the DSB. I can get some publications after the 4th once we’re all back in to office, (I’ve seen it mentioned somewhere but can’t remember). If find it I’ll send it your way.
Don’t worry about the symbols. I’m US Army centric but you don’t have to be and using international symbols makes sense for exactly what your putting out.
Like I said in my previous comment I’m glad to see someone take a serious look into military sustainment. I look forward to the main channel video and wish you and if success and views.
@@BattleOrder2 I stand by your use of symbols
Sometimes too much detail blurs the bigger picture. And specially if that detail is undiscernable to the audience.
Tell him how much BSB leadership lies to BDE about the ESR Report and FMC/NMC fleet status.
I remember reporting weekly that the platoon was 35% FMC average, with little help from maintenance on major repairs above Lvl 10 work.
Then I got into the TOC late stage pre-rotation FTX to see 93% FMC. Lol.
Army needs a separate independent Maintenance Inspector General to audit accuracy of BSB FMC reporting.
A BSB might not even get audited during a CDR's hot seat, but the mere threat of an audit would keep them from lying.
Good stuff!!!
Human resources specialist working at a post office in a sustainment brigade here. 🙌
I would be interested in seeing the medical support set up along with the evacuation chain.
Finally, a video for us supply cats
As a BN S4 NCOIC in a Brigade Engineer Battalion (BEB) in an IBCT who works with an FSC from the BSB, it will be interesting to see how the alleged transition of the BEB to a division level (covered in another @BattleOrder2 video) asset will effect how we do logistics in support of a much larger AO.
Thanks for the video. This made things much easier to understand.
@BattleOrder2 Military Police up next? (Def not biased)
Moar logi stuff please
Nice. What would really be interesting are the various types of Army Engineer Units other then the A &B company in a BEB.. The best I've been able to find is a 2014 SlideShare. Sapper companies, vertical construction, MR bridge companies, mobility augmentation companies, etc.
Can't wait for the in depth video 😊
VERY valuable info , thank you!
I *love* the little Pacman on the Feeding Section
Do a video on US Army CBRN. It's my favorite job along Army firefighters and you already did a video on that...
As an 88 series for a little over 9 years we are confusing af! Lol. Can be a joke small ass 20 person TC-DET or something amazing like support within the 75th and everything in-between.
Wow cool 😎
Maybe Quick Guide to U.S. Army Special Forces Units AKA Green Berets in the future?
wish I had this at bolc
Love logistics mannn
Make a video about chinese navy
Make a video about 90s fr yugoslav army
What happend to this series? I would love to learn more about the detailed organizations of maneuver support units, especially logistics. As the saying goes amateurs talk tactics, professionals study logistics. And there are only so many videos about infantry or tank units I can watch ;)
Maybe do a vid on how Canada an the States would most likely carry out an attack/invasion
US invading Canada or the Canadians invading the US?
@@comentedonakeyboard i was thinking more like they invade iceland or some together but what u said works
@@MrFlippers2.O well, the winner could still invade Iceland. Unless the Mexicans take Advantage of the Situation 😂
if the actual symbol for a "field feeding section" is pac man i will happily pay more taxes
I only have 42 days left on my 8 year U.S. Army initial contract.
So how you doing now
How many soldiers are in a Brigade Support Battalion (BSB) and how many in a Brigade Engineer Battalion (BEB)?
The symbol for the food unit is pacman 😂
It's a crescent moon dummy
I think it’s supposed to symbolize a wheel of cheese but it could be pizza.
I want to see china army logistics system.
Doesn't come in CADPAT. Therefore, crap
Only work 9 to 3
Finally shutting down all the fucking MPs who thinks they're basically Cav scouts
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😅 "Promosm"