Top 10 Best Artillery Units | Total War Warhammer 3
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No organ guns?!?
Thats goin in the book, umgi
For any who don't know, you can hold Alt and attack ground with artillery. This is how you minimize friendly fire when the target is engaged with your units. Drop their payload on the back half of the unit, and you will avoid a lot of FF damage over just targeting the unit and letting your siege weapon use its best judgment.
minimize friendly fire??? why would you do that no-no
thank you
WHY THE FUCK I DIDN'T KNOW THAT . I AM PLAYING TOTAL WAR WARHAMMER FOR MORE THAN 2 YEARS
Nothing beats the technical masterpiece of using Goblins as ammo. Not only is thid very eco friendly but it's also very effective because our recycled doom diver ammo will improve the accuracy of even the blondest of shots!
The most eco-friendly artillery!
@@JaySwag77 and you never run out of smmo. Your ammo might try to run but that's another discussion
Those goblins live life to the fullest!
Yup find those to be by far the best party, never lose an arty duel with flying gobbos.
You know I never asked, What happens to the goblins that survive after they hit the ground?
Plagueclaw Catapults should have made the list. It is one of the best Artilleries in the game and way way better than the Field Trebuchets.
How did Plagueclaw Catapults not make the list? That unit deletes infantry, has huge range, lowers leadership so units break before they get to you and they're very accurate.
They're relatively cheap as well
Maybe because they were nerfed few times and they're not as they used to be. Still good though.
I agree should have been on the list
They are solid but not best.
And you get them pretty early
No cathay artillery 😭.
I feel like the sky junk should've been on here since they fly which makes them completely immune to getting flanked by cav charges or summons like skavenslaves
not just that, they fly AND tanky too.
@agps4418 True. I forgot about that
Flying also means it's more difficult to intercept small fliers like furies.
I'd say majority of time is better though, but the few times it falls is painful.
@@JackCaoNZthat is true, though those same flying units always mess with my rocket batteries as well so it’s kinda damned if u do/don’t in a way lol
@@JackCaoNZ cathay has access to cheap, early, super effective anti-air ranged units in the iron hail gunners. Any flying units going for my sky junks will be shot to pieces in seconds. Then thats not even counting if your dragon LL is around.
Dreadquake mortars is very devastating, yes. But they are also very expensive unit that requires T5 building. So in my opinion the best chaos dwarfs artillery is magma cannons - they are literally melting infantry even after nerfs. And they are only T2. The only disadvantage is lack of ability to reach targets behind cover.
In my campaigns magma cannons always cause more damage than hell cannons (but hell cannons still good because of different hell forge limit).
I’d still rather have 1 dreadquake than 3 magma cannons
Magma cannons do give so much value early though.
Yeah also they are easy to counter in pvp. A single dwarf cannon unit will obliterate it in 2-3 volleys give or take. Dwarf cannons have MORE pieces per unit, MORE range per unit, and MORE damage overall. They will destroy the dreadquake very early on.
Hell Cannon got that zaza range
Plague Claw Catapults should be in here for sure!
I mostly agree on this list, monstrous artillery is the best. But my number 10 has gotta be the the Ogre iron blaster with its crazy damage and multiple shots plus a admirable charge bonus for cycle charging in a pinch.
That one could step right into the place of the stegadon, with its puny ballista
Cathays fire rain rocket is pretty great
You should have included dreadquake mortar with iron daemon. Which give it more mobility an alternate short/mid range weapon and melee damage.
But then it would be 2 units, not 1.
yes but it would count as 1 unit because it only takes up 1 unit slot.
@@joaogomes9405
@@joaogomes9405 it's still only one unit
Flame canon infantry melter.
With 2 of those, you can kill an arachnarok spider LORD before it comes into melee with your infantry.
Done it always vs greenskins.
Necrofex can also fire it's cannon while moving, very important trait!
I find the sky junk and firestorm rockets from cathay, when used properly, melt infantry units. In my playthrough I get 500 kills a battle easy with 1 unit
They are devastating for sure, airborne arty ftw
Organ guns and hellblaster volley gun, i mean its a damn gatling cannon and it shreds everything. most overlooked artillery in my opinion
Btw forgot to mention the little grom from kislev you can get it to 572 range with a small bit of the tech tree done but it has lack luster damage but dat range you can buff it even further with a tempest caster to almost 700
They are also stupidly accurate. They can snipe lords no problem
I played several hundred hours testing what artillery is best. And the clear winner was cathai fire rain rockets HIRED BY WOODELVES. They are already strong on its own but the woodelve buffs make them insanely good. Much more range, ammunition, much faster firing. Dreadquake mortar(and everything else) is a joke compared to this.
haven't closed a video faster than after hearing 'sorry queen bess' XD
vampirates ARE warhammer artillery as far as i'm concerned :D
same, I came for the Bess!
big fan of Motars. any artillery that can fire over my units is a 10/10 for me
Honestly surprised to not see magma cannons from the chaos dwarfs. But then I remembered they got nerfed a fair bit. Granted they are still good but not as OP as when they first came out.
Definitely a weird list. Cathay could fill three spots just by themselves
Back in the day on the tabletop, Hellcannons were no slouches in melee either, and would occasionally eat their crew and go on a rampage. A shame they did not go for that in this game, though I imagine it was for balance reasons.
I’ve been playing lizards since Warhammer II came out, and I only just realized stegadons have a ballista on their back
Fun fact: until the current WH3 patch, hellcannons in WH3 were about as dangerous to infantry as empire mortars if they used all of their ammunition. Hellcannons do use their ammunition substantially faster though. Combined with them being a single entity artillery piece (and thus notably more fragile against enemy artillery). They were pretty terrible without manual fire for a very long time for how expensive they are. Doom Diver catapults deal substantially more damage while also being cheaper.
Honestly, I'm surprised hellcannons made the list at all. They're solid on the current patch, but they've been so bad for so long that it's still a bit odd, and doom divers are still both better and cheaper.
This list seems more like an artilley doomstack tier list though, seeing as stegadons, necrofex colossi, and Cygors are on the list, and dreadquake mortars being at the top. From a cost performance standpoint, they're not really great units at all. Stegadons as an artillery piece are very, very weak. They just make good doomstacks, because monsters that can shoot make good doomstacks.
Surprised the Slaven aren't on the list, but that just shows how these 10 and the Skaven artillery match up to one another.
Dreamquakes are still the best artillery.
it really depends on how you grade it, I suppose. I love the Plague Claws, because they are pretty easily attained, dealing a lot of damage against enemy clusters, useful to siege .... Its not the best arti, but as a T3? IMO quite amazing.
On the other hand, I detest the Warp Lightning Cannon, and I feel sorry for that. I like the design, but it keeps missing against single target, and deal less damage compared to plagueclaws... If I want to deal with Single Target, I get me some Jezzails which actually hit their damn targets most of the times.
@@nordos I think both those artillery are also rated based on the clan you play. Pestilence buffs Plague Claws to a serious degree, while Skryre jacks up Warp Lightning Cannons. Same kinda can go with The Dreadfleet with the Necrofex Colossus, but not to as much of a degree.
@@nordos Yeah I'd agree, the weapons teams are much better than the artillery pieces but I guess that doesn't make the list. The Avalanche Mortars have one of the best RoR gimmicks in the game imo.
@@inductivegrunt94
to be honest, I see no reason to take the cannon even with Skryer, since you also get a buff to Jezzails.
And I still like to field Plague Claws in these armies, since mortars are both later on, and have lower range
@tomayto70
Avalance Mortars are IMO one of the strongest units in the game. Deathglobes are terrifying, and the major downside of low range ... negated for the avalanche. I often delete 2-3 infantry units with them in a fight, and it doesn't seem to matter if it were chaos warriors or barbarians, just the quantity of the models ...
Poisoned Wind Mortar on the other hand, I can't make up my mind. They hit way less hard than the RoR, and while they do hit harder than Plague Claws, they also come in later and have less range. That said, especially Skryer is able to buff them to disgusting degrees
The avalanch mortars are one of the most devastating anti infantry artillary but they are a RoR and the rest of their of their artillary is good but not amazing.
The hellcannon is not an auto include for me. Damn thing misses so much, it's almost a wasted slot. In the hands of the AI tho ... Thing is deadly
I Think its was a bug that its miss so much. And it Got fixed idk
Deathshriek should be way higher if it didn't share unit cap with Dreadquake.
That thing will delete anything but the toughest of infantries.
Personally I think solar bastilidons are the better artillery for the lizardmen.
They have plenty of anti large and strong melee units already, so having an artillery piece that focuses on large and melee's OK is meh to me.
The bastilidons melt infantry and are decent against large as well.
I would have put the magma cannon somewhere on the least, it's really good to get rid of infantry, and can do solid damage on a direct hit
Very surprised at some of the things on this list. Expected Skaven and Cathay to be on here at least once
Stegadon, several years have passed since I’ve seen them in a multiplayer match
No Skaven or Cathay artillery?
They're up there don't get me wrong. But I actually agree they are not 'top 10' good. Little/no friendly fire IS a big deal tactically too. It's not really a slight on Skaven tho .. The real strength of skaven ranged is in it's weapon teams XD Honestly everyone loves artillery. But I find them a bit of a pain because they're like a slow moving stationary point that you need to defend from flyers and flankers. Or lose an expensive unit. Unless you can circumvent that with chorf trains or lizardmen monster artillery. They're absolutely GREAT defensively during sieges. But I often don't bother with them in my field armies. Skaven artillery are all super slow. Weapon teams .. on the other hand ..
I personal do not sea the hellcannon in the list. A question is the tech still possible with it where you let it shoot and half way you go an aim the shoot?
Hellcannon is unbreakable, worth a mention
I love Empire mortars. Especially the soot guns, early game they are great, mid-late they can struggle, espeically when compared too helstorms, but they still can get the job done and fit well with my cheaper armies.
Casket of souls is amazing for tomb kings. Considering Tomb kings abiltities :) every death tier 1 tier 2 tier 3 healing and more healing then summoning :)
I don't remember if the luminark is classified as artillery but if it is then it should be included, an accurate, mobile, high damage piece that can one shot many units and demolish dragons and exalted demons, what more would you ask for?
Faster shot time than snail paced. It is one of the first things I take off the field when up against them because whatever they hit they hurt. But they are slow to fire and unless they fixed it can get confounded by line of sight issues and dragged into compromising positions trying to shoot.
They usually only get 2 shots off before the lines clash. Then their targeting gets all janky with line of sight. Still a cool unit though.
Honestly shocked that the Chaos Dwarf Magma Cannon. They are BRUTAL against clumps of infantry and they have DoT.
Screaming skull catapult more fragile than the casket of souls and less ap but more dps always have good results
Shame you didnt include Regiments of renown the Ice forged legion are great.
In my recent Drazhoath campaign i managed to get 3 of them cuz i confederated Astragoth and Zhatan and they both had one recruited so i had an army running round with all 3 it was fantastic lol
If he had included RoR this list would just be RoR
Hellstorm is only # 6?! it is the only thing the empire has...
You disqualified Queen Bess but included Casket of Souls even though they both require a rite and summoning from the regiments of renown panel.
Also, no Little Grom? Huge range, incredible accuracy, fair melee stats and 105 armor?
I would have put the oger cannon on here and maybe the bastiliadon personally cause those solar engines are fun to me. And the oger cannons are so much fun.
Pure disrespect to the plagueclaw catapult. Great in both field battles and seiges, huge amounts of damage, relatively cheap. Undoubtedly one of the best artillery units in the game.
How about Organ Guns at least as an honorable mention. While not as long ranged as some artillery, they are equally effective against small and large targets.
Man you gotta try out cathay, their artillery is awesome, you can wipe half of someone's army with 2-3 fire rain rockets or sky junks
Do "content creators" intentionally create half-assed lists now to boost engagement in the comment section?
A touch of homing? Did you see the most recent patch notes? They are now predator missles.
Bone giant and Cathay units would do well on this list
Is the iron laster good?
How is the poison wind mortar not an artillery?
As a 13B, this makes me happy
The Bone Giant is the most underrated unit in the game. 2-3 can take down any single entity monster in the game before they even reach you
since when does fire at will work on dreadquakes?
The Stegadon becomes a lot better when a pompus hero is riding it... and theres ninteen of his friends in the army.
I think you forgot the ironblaster from the ogre wich is stronger than bretonian trebuchet
Not classed as artillery.
plaugeclaw catapults really should be on this list
Manually aiming the hellcannon ? How was this device so low???
I really want to borrow army and steal a tempest mage from kieslev. Then out her in an army with Kieslev and use the accuracy ability
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How about the steam tank ? Just send it into melee with any of the other units on the list and it Will probably win also being unbreakable
I can’t believe the hellcannon is so low on this list. You can blow away at least one or two entire elite units of infantry before the lines clash. You can REALLY feel this when the ai uses it
Little grom is also very good👍🏽 pretty standard as far as artillery damage but is pretty fast and very resilient in melee
Im also very glad the bolt throwers are not on this list. They are ABSOLUTE TRASH
Ikit would like to have a word...
The number 4 I would change for Nurgle's Soul Grinder but it is probably not artillery piece. Still I think number 4 is not top tier artillery.
>deathshrieker makes the top 10
>magma cannon doesn't
Ah yes, the one that can't hit a fucking thing is good, but the one that can one shot top tier infantry with insane accuracy isn't.
As a green skin play I am greatly offended the doom diver catapults didn't make the list.
surprised ironblasters didn't make the list. those things delete lords
No hellblaster volley gun or the orgelgun? and no elf aty(they can hide)? And no Queeny? Sad i am now.
I think the rocklobber should be on the list. It's just so cheap.
Where would poison wind mortars go if they did
Why do i have only 2 artilery units in my gameplays and every youtuber has 4 in theirs, is it an option or a mod someone got any idea ?
Extreme unit side , or mods 😊
You really placed the Deathshrieke on the list? Oh boy... And I thought you were high in your worst unit list... Man, normally I think you got some great opinions and great takes. At any rate, whether I like this list or not, good video, good entertainment, keep up doing your thing.
There are no skaven!?
Hahaha.... flame cannons.
How can you put Helstrom Rocket Battery in the list and not Fire Rain Rocket of Cathay??? Cathay's rocket battery is better.
This is one of the reasons i cant play Wood Elves, even tho i love them. No artillery really sucks
How can you even make this list without Queen Bess, come on man...
No Regis of renown. He said in beginning
@@cweeperz7760 it's a unique unit that's bundled in as a RoR to gate it's power, but is still a major part of the VCoast faction as a whole.
most RoR are slightly altered or updated versions of an existing unit, but Queen Bess should have been an exception.
Do Monsters next.
Ironblasters purely brcause they can take off half the hp of a single entity in one shot with a good angle
I know you said no RoR but we all know Queen Bess takes the cake.
Queen bess !
No magma cannon is a crime
Queen Bess is missing
I mean suuuuure TECHNICALLY the rat-men weapons teams don't count as artillery. But we all know who the REAL best artillery is squeak-squeak
where is the skullcannon?
I guess that makes the ogre kingdoms ironblasters number 0
No steam tank?
You missed scaven slaves
Top 10 Best of the Worst Cavalry
Hellcannon ftw
Man sized rats don't exist. Why else would there be no skaven arty.
best cannon is queen bess that all for me
Dreadquake is literally better queen bess and you can have multiple of them
so Casket is Fine but Queen bes is not? cmon man
So no Skaven artillery whatsoever, huh? We-we find your list most bad-wrong! Peel your skin-flesh from-from your bones we shall, mmmyes!
I have to disagree with the list, the Cathay air ballon with rockets 1 can solo a whole army if you manual aim, it's so damn broken, but then again it's and air artillery unit
What? No Eagle Claw Bolt Throwers? 🤣
No love for Organ Guns?
Artillery in general is overrated imo. The only real value in artillery is that they're fun to watch, otherwise they're easily shut down with trees and basic tier one bats, birds and dogs. The only exceptions are so late game that it doesn't even matter what you use anymore.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm