Hypervelocity Projectile (HVP) at Sea Air Space 2024
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- In this video interview recorded at Sea Air Space 2024, Tate Westbrook from BAE Systems takes us through the latest developments with the Hypervelocity Projectile (HVP). The program, which began in collaboration with the US Navy and ONR back in 2012, continues to progress.
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HVP Overview:
The HVP is a next-generation, common, low-drag, guided projectile designed to enhance the lethality and performance of various gun systems.
It’s adaptable for multiple platforms, including the Navy 5-Inch, Army and Marine Corps 155-mm systems, and even future electromagnetic (EM) railguns.
Mission Capabilities:
The HVP’s aerodynamic design minimizes drag, allowing for high velocity and maneuverability. This translates to decreased time-to-target and effective performance against current threats.
Depending on the gun system and platform, the HVP can perform missions ranging from Naval Surface Fire to Cruise and Ballistic Missile Defense, as well as Anti-Surface Warfare and other future Naval mission areas.
Compact Design and Safety:
The HVP’s compact design eliminates the need for a rocket motor to extend gun range.
Smaller, more accurate rounds reduce collateral damage risk and enable deeper magazines, enhancing shipboard safety.
Latest Advancements:
BAE Systems has introduced the XM1155-SC, the latest precision-guided munition in the HVP family. This highly lethal projectile is designed to defeat fixed and moving targets in contested environments with a short time-of-flight and exceptional maneuverability.
Recent tests have demonstrated its effectiveness at more than double the range of existing cannon-launched precision guided munitions.
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Very fine professional report. Keep them coming please.
I feel like you missed some major questions with this one. How do they reconcile this being tested at sea during RIMPAC 2018 with the round currently being developed as quickly as possible 6 years later? This sounds more like a dead program the OSD is keeping on life support than something we can actually expect to see fielded.
Army is buying HVPs this year for testing their 155mm-based missile defense concept, and purchases at scale could happen as soon as next year. Navy's lagging because they haven't made room in their budget for it, but the Red Sea may be changing that.
@@TheBeomoose The Army is investigating no such thing, because it would be pointless. Neither the Paladin, M777, nor ERCA have anywhere near the rate of fire or traverse necessary for missile defense, and they don't have the ability to network with air defense radars to even track incoming missiles or drones. They are buying HVP as a way to increase the range of their artillery in the conventional bombardment mission.
The Navy funded HVP until FY2022, when they zeroed funding for lack of results and lack of a subsequent development path. BAE's claims that this can intercept missiles is bullshit: the round is GPS/INS guidance only, and fitting a seeker capable of hitting a moving target would require removing the explosive filler. The reason this program is still going is, as the original poster said, artillery fetishists in SCO refusing to let it die, backed by a few Congressmen who served in Desert Storm or Vietnam and still think we fight that way.
@@GintaPPE1000 your information is out of date. The Pentagon has essentially walked away from Indirect Fires as a HVP mission but continues to advance it as an air and missile defense munition. Check the FY2024 Pacific Defense Initiative budget supplemental and you will see the HGWS is in prototyping now with test fires already taking place using existing (Army) 155mm systems. Army, which has most of the 155s, is out front with OSD support, but the Navy and even the Air Force have been pursuing development of HVP for air and missile defense.
How they are guided?
No lo explica con lujo de detalles ... pero lo que si sé es que puede ser Autodirigido me imagino por sistema GPS desde un satélite en el area y como arma antimisil antibuques !!
If it have antiship capacity, the only way is guided by infra red.
To attac land targets, GPS is the way.
Sorry for my bad english. I am spaniard.
Before the Navy cancelled this program, it was GPS/INS only with no ability to hit moving targets unless you removed the explosive filler and replaced it with a seeker. Which is a large part of why they cancelled it.
@@GintaPPE1000 they could use a guidance like on dart for it.
@@JesusSanchez-ij5deIsn't the projectile too hot for using IIR seeker?
It is about time! TORCH OUT!
I want to see this industry in overdrive just like AI is. Every bit of this industry is important and as much as the "aid bill" might seem like it is for another country we all know in large part it was to boost our own industrial capacity.
For the peanut gallery critics, we will see many products come and go and may not be the right product but this is important for innovation.
Nicd and short vid thnx
How is it guided?
probably GPS/INS
@@Scorpio.1989 Not good enough to hit target a moving target.
@@paladin0654 with datalinks GPS coordinates can be updated in real time so if they have an asset with eyes on with the ability of relaying coordinates it’s doable…
Forward observers and drones can get the coordinates of a target with lasers by knowing the coordinates of the laser emitter and reciver and bouncing a laser off of the target. This effectively makes the weapon laser guided too…
good to see at least the ballistics paid dividends perhaps now the defense industry will have a warmer reception with the tech i have
Really hoping these get adopted; seems like a great way to boost Naval precision strike / air defense.
Burkes and Ticonderogas are one huge step closer to be fitting in the opening stage fireworks in the asymmetric Southeast Asian Sea
Comparing the cost of implementation, the interviewee did not disclose at what cost per round this would be. Is it a 1% savings, 5%, 10% because that's all a 'fraction of the cost.' Naval News, your reporters need to make these guys sweat and press them for details. No more softball interviews, we need concrete facts!
in 2019, HVP cost between $75-100k per shot, so it cost slightly less than the latest FIM-92 manpad.
@@Boomkokogamez
and this remind me Vulcano (range 50 nm) round from Leonardo at begining they though it will cost 10,000 eventually 20,000 (double?) but now that is in production it ended up at 60,000 USD a piece or in case of US Navy kind of production numbers the price tag could lower to 40,000 per GPS guided round plus 5/10,000 for added Semi Active Laser or Infra Red guidance system, so a cost per ammunition of 50,000 USD or less for land or naval targets and no anti-air round because (up to 5 nm range in just over 5 seconds) Leonardo have at about 35,000 per round the 76mm Dart anti-missile ammunition but to reach about a 100% kill probability the concept is to fire a trail of three rounds per target, so 100,000 USD in total.
I believe at best if it really reach the production stage it will cost minimum 250,000 not a great advantage over RAM missile and a shame in front of Iron Dome missile's 100,000 price (but you would have to add a new system on board)
"fraction of cost" is like the discounts at 50% with the same price at the end, not to mention the total SILENCE over range question 🤣🤣🤣
Anyone else shocked it appears no one is talking to First Light Fusion for their rail gun tech?
Aluminum disks cheap to produce, the disk self destructs to save the firing mechanism, and as a land base weapon could build a "repeater" to saturate the sky for aerial defense.
Drone & cruise missile anti air round but when?
Wow. Sounds super, budget the damm thing in and get them deployed shipboard.
Bring back the Mk71 8" gun
people here think this is simple. It isn't. If it was, it would have been in production but it hasn't. This is more vaporware.
Great value at only 6 million Euro per round !
The Navy should just get the regular 155mm system to work. Suck it up and ask the Army. You use Aberdeen anyway. Put it on a new cruiser with a 127mm in the back. We don't need an overgrown, overpriced corvette.
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I mean its a cheaper option in fighting against rebels with drones or missiles instead of firing like 1.5 mil USD SM-2 missile on a homemade drone
Lo and behold, it is the Italian "Vulcano" cal. 127 from Oto Melara, and its guided projectiles reach 120 km with 2-meter accuracy. They have been in service in Italian ships for 10 years. I'll remove the like.
Is Vulcano capable of intercepting aircraft and missiles? Everything I can find on the projectile seems to indicate that it's limited to land or surface targets. If this is indeed the case and Vulcano does not have the capability of intercepting missiles or aircraft, then these projectiles are not at all directly comparable.
@steamedcream7671 The 127 and 155 was not tested for aircraft, only subsonic missiles, but there is the 76 "Strales" system with "David" guided munitions, which follows a radio beam to the target, tested with aircraft and missiles in the Red Sea. A guided projectile with fuze $6000, a conventional munition with fuze $1000. An SM 3 missile $2,000,000.
Vulcano also costs $400k/round and has no ability to intercept aircraft. Go troll somewhere else.
@@steamedcream7671 ua-cam.com/video/61YnsQ1v0mw/v-deo.html
It’s not Vulcano though, that’s just factually incorrect. It fulfills a similar role, but with some significant differences. That’s like looking at an ESSM and saying it’s a CAMM, yes, similar role, similar approach, but totally different system.
Been in development since before 2018 and still not in service. Someone is milking the taxpayer.
Well, that's because it was originally part of advanced gun system, then it was part of the railgun system and now it's finally being adopted by 155 and 127 mm remember the Navy wanted a fleet of Zumwalt's with Advanced gun systems or possibly rail guns...
Don't get me wrong they milk the taxpayer, but this isn't necessarily that...
Well, two more years they gonna cancelled it for to expensive project 😅
murica's
@@scottsauritch3216Yada...Yada!! Same yapping again & again!
It is normal to take about 15 years.
As you might recall the Pentagon is always dragging their feet in terms of programs so they could milk taxpayers money and also overcharging stuff that should cost way less than advertised, been like this since post WWII.
24 years as a program and still not operational - what a joke.
mmmmmmm
We will lose if the cost of the interceptor is greater than the target weapon.
Only if all we do is defend. Shoot the archer not the arrow is still valid. Interceptors are only supposed to be used to backstop our offensive capabilities.
So interception will always always cost more, weather you get a jet up and down it with guns, or fire a missle.
That's just how it works unfortunately, might as will be a law I thermal dynamics 😂
So, not answer to speed (velocity) and no answer to range, other than it exceeds the conventional rounds?🤬