Just ordered a set for my 05 from you guys on Friday. The rear inners showed up this morning. Can’t wait to get them on my truck and see the stance. It’s a short wheel base 350, gonna look pretty mean!
Yes, the old traditional version of what a "super single" is would be converting your rear duals to one wide single. It started with military grade vehicles, campers, semi-trucks and transitioned to daily drivers. In the current aftermarket wheel world, the term "super single" started to be used years ago to define the more common practice of running a single front on a standard dually truck by pulling the adapter off. Something that was started by American Force when they offered to custom build forged wheels with a single front option as opposed to traditional dual....and is now offered by almost all manufacturers and called "super single". The older traditional "super single" in the rear was done for practical use - improving off-road performance, traction, reduced resistance. The term "super single" that is used by manufacturers like Fuel, DDC, American Force, KG1 Forged, etc. refers to something that is purely visual for the style. It's all cosmetic with a different look for the front.
If I did my truck, I’d swap the front hubs for the F350 single wheel truck front hubs. And avoid the different bolt pattern and thread pitch issue ? Or, that is not possible for some crazy FORD reason?
Whether you pull off the front dually adapter or change out the entire hub assembly, the bolt pattern for a non-dually F-350 is still 8x170. So yes, you could swap out the entire hub assembly and it's going to be 8x170 bolt pattern. Or you could just slide off the adapter and it's also 8x170 bolt pattern. With the adapter on, it is 8x200 bolt pattern, and your rear wheels would stay 8x200 bolt pattern
The single option wouldn't affect turning radius any more than a standard dually would - you just need to be sure that you get the correct wheel width, just like you would on a traditional non-dually wheel...typically 9 wide for stock or leveled, 10 wide for leveled or lifted and 12 wide and up for aggressively lifted trucks. Singles are not more expensive. In fact, they will typically end up being a less expensive option since non-dually wheels are less expensive than dually wheels.
It's really all cosmetic and for looks. There is no proven benefit as far as handling, driveability or load capacity, although some customers believe the wider footprint of a single front wheel that you can get in 9, 10 or 12 wide vs the 6.5 or 8.25 of a dually wheel, makes for a wider wheelbase up front providing more stability when hauling or towing loads.
@@bopbop1863 Correct - if it was a non-dually truck, you can put 12.50 wide tires on a standard 9, 10 or 12 inch wide wheel. For a dually, you still can put 12.50 wide tires on a standard 8.25 inch wide wheel. There is no reason to change the tire size on a dually based on running a super single or not.
@@DanielSaldana-tv4vm you can run 13.50 wide tires on 8.25 wheels no problem. All manufacturers make 8.25 width dually wheels, so any dually you see that has 13.50 wide tires on it, also has 8.25 wide wheels
By pulling off the front factory adapter, your front hub is now essentially a single wheel 3500. No conversion needed, just remove the adapter that converts it to a dually and now it's the single wheel 3500 spec.
@@whitecapmadness7181 Correct - if you pull of the factory front adapter, the hubs are now the bolt pattern and thread pitch of the single wheel option of that truck. So for instance a 2024 Ford F-350 dually is 8x200 bolt pattern and 14x1.5 lug thread pitch. If you pull of the front dually adapter, it is now an 8x170 bolt pattern and still keeps the same 14x1.5 lug thread pitch.
If you're putting aftermarket wheels on your dually, then you would need to carry multiple spares no matter what since aftermarket dually wheels are not interchangeable like factory wheels and factory-type options. Your front wheel (whether it is a single or a dual), rear outer wheel and rear inner wheel are all unique to each position and cannot be flipped to use in multiple positions like factory styles.
Just ordered a set for my 05 from you guys on Friday. The rear inners showed up this morning. Can’t wait to get them on my truck and see the stance. It’s a short wheel base 350, gonna look pretty mean!
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Why are they (and many others) calling this a super single conversion!?
A super single conversion is changing your rear duals to a really wide single.
Yes, the old traditional version of what a "super single" is would be converting your rear duals to one wide single. It started with military grade vehicles, campers, semi-trucks and transitioned to daily drivers. In the current aftermarket wheel world, the term "super single" started to be used years ago to define the more common practice of running a single front on a standard dually truck by pulling the adapter off. Something that was started by American Force when they offered to custom build forged wheels with a single front option as opposed to traditional dual....and is now offered by almost all manufacturers and called "super single". The older traditional "super single" in the rear was done for practical use - improving off-road performance, traction, reduced resistance. The term "super single" that is used by manufacturers like Fuel, DDC, American Force, KG1 Forged, etc. refers to something that is purely visual for the style. It's all cosmetic with a different look for the front.
If I did my truck, I’d swap the front hubs for the F350 single wheel truck front hubs.
And avoid the different bolt pattern and thread pitch issue ?
Or, that is not possible for some crazy FORD reason?
Whether you pull off the front dually adapter or change out the entire hub assembly, the bolt pattern for a non-dually F-350 is still 8x170. So yes, you could swap out the entire hub assembly and it's going to be 8x170 bolt pattern. Or you could just slide off the adapter and it's also 8x170 bolt pattern. With the adapter on, it is 8x200 bolt pattern, and your rear wheels would stay 8x200 bolt pattern
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Does the super single affect turning radius? Is the super single a considerable amount more expensive?
The single option wouldn't affect turning radius any more than a standard dually would - you just need to be sure that you get the correct wheel width, just like you would on a traditional non-dually wheel...typically 9 wide for stock or leveled, 10 wide for leveled or lifted and 12 wide and up for aggressively lifted trucks.
Singles are not more expensive. In fact, they will typically end up being a less expensive option since non-dually wheels are less expensive than dually wheels.
What is the benefit of going with super single?
It's really all cosmetic and for looks. There is no proven benefit as far as handling, driveability or load capacity, although some customers believe the wider footprint of a single front wheel that you can get in 9, 10 or 12 wide vs the 6.5 or 8.25 of a dually wheel, makes for a wider wheelbase up front providing more stability when hauling or towing loads.
I like that you get to lose the adaptor. So would these be considered “bolt on”?
What tire did you used for front
Same tire is used on the front and rear - it doesn't change. It is a 35" Nitto Recon Grappler
So you put the same width and back even though the front is 3.75 inches wider
@@bopbop1863 Correct - if it was a non-dually truck, you can put 12.50 wide tires on a standard 9, 10 or 12 inch wide wheel. For a dually, you still can put 12.50 wide tires on a standard 8.25 inch wide wheel. There is no reason to change the tire size on a dually based on running a super single or not.
what if your gonna run a big lift and want 40's on. all i see is 8.25 for rear inside and the smallest mud tire ive seen is 13.50 wide
@@DanielSaldana-tv4vm you can run 13.50 wide tires on 8.25 wheels no problem. All manufacturers make 8.25 width dually wheels, so any dually you see that has 13.50 wide tires on it, also has 8.25 wide wheels
Can you swap out the hub for a single wheel 3500 instead ?
By pulling off the front factory adapter, your front hub is now essentially a single wheel 3500. No conversion needed, just remove the adapter that converts it to a dually and now it's the single wheel 3500 spec.
But if you switch to the F350 single wheel truck front hubs you would have standard threads and standard bolt pattern right?
@@whitecapmadness7181 Correct - if you pull of the factory front adapter, the hubs are now the bolt pattern and thread pitch of the single wheel option of that truck. So for instance a 2024 Ford F-350 dually is 8x200 bolt pattern and 14x1.5 lug thread pitch. If you pull of the front dually adapter, it is now an 8x170 bolt pattern and still keeps the same 14x1.5 lug thread pitch.
Why would I do that? Now I have to carry two spare tires?
Ohh that's a good point.
If you're putting aftermarket wheels on your dually, then you would need to carry multiple spares no matter what since aftermarket dually wheels are not interchangeable like factory wheels and factory-type options. Your front wheel (whether it is a single or a dual), rear outer wheel and rear inner wheel are all unique to each position and cannot be flipped to use in multiple positions like factory styles.
Did he seriously say inverted concavity wheel? Or maybe just say convex front wheel.....