A New MiniDisc Album...in 2019
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- A quick extra video about something that arrived in the post.
MiniDisc & Cassettes available from eox.no/shop/
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IMPORTANT NOTE (for people who care about these things) These MiniDiscs are BURNED rather than Pressed. The facilities for pressing pre-recorded MiniDiscs no longer exist. Therefore these MiniDiscs are recorded on standard recordable blanks in real-time. This makes no difference to the listener experience - but it’s been pointed out that while it was implied, I didn’t specifically mention it in this unscripted off the cuff improvised quickly assembled extra video ...so I’m mentioning it here...in the video description text box that no one has read since 1978
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I worked as a sound engineer on a cruise ship just a few years ago. MiniDiscs were still the gold standard for travelling performers. It was an easy way to guarantee the format would work as not every ship in the fleet was using computer playback, and the format wasn't as fragile as a CD being handled by hundreds of people over the years. It's definitely a great format and still has a purpose today! I bet those same ships and performers are still using it.
OK, you guys! Just WOW! Thank you for the support! I've been away up north these last few days and got home tonight... to over 160+ orders in my webshop!!! I'm all out of the the MiniDisc and Retro Grooves Vol. 1 already, and just have to re-order more asap! Who would think that MiniDisc was this popular in 2019? ^_^
I've spent the better part of two hours sorting and printing orders, labels and making what I can of packing all 160+ orders. Unfortunately I have to wait until my postage stamp machine gets access to the values I've purchased (it's an old and ridiculously rigid system which takes a few days to apply.. business people designing it :P). I'm gonna need a few days to manage packing and stamping every order, but they will go out by this weekend.
I've also sent a re-order to BandCDs and will most likely also order - if not all, so at least a few of my other albums on MiniDisc too, as it seems to be such a high demand for the format. Hopefully they can deliver it asap. All the backorders will be full-filled, just hang tight. :)
Again thank you very much! :D
That's what we call a good problem to have. 😁
I would love to know how many you will end up selling after the first and second batch run out.. If you get a big demand do you think other items on your catalogue will be out on MiniDisc ?
Excellent news I shall order a minidisc 👍
MiniDisc comunity are fast growing for couple of years - Last year was big. And Thank You! 👍🙂
Yours will be only the second commercial MD I've ever purchased, despite having owned MD players for 15+ years now. (The Lincoln Center Jazz is the other)
As always there is more information in the Video Description Text box.
The video description text box can be found inside the Ark of the Covenant in Atlantis.
You forgot to mention that you have to time travel back to 1978, too.
Good thing that's the year of my Car. (In progress)
I'm debating on trying to track down a cassette/ CD player for it, or just Bluetooth & CD.
Ahhhh yes. The mystical video description text box. I remember reading about those in the great library of Alexandria back in the day..
Is that similar to the lost city of Atlanta?
@@metaleggman18 tsssssssssss. Hear the sissle of that burn.......
I never understood why MiniDisc never took off, miles better than cassettes & far more reliable than DAT!
I still use & enjoy MiniDisc , I am sure I am not the only one.
markpirateuk there’s a decent whack of us on Facebook if you aren’t already in the group :)
They did okay in some markets and poorly in others like the USA. In Australia, they were in popular demand for a while until the advent of the Apple iPods, mp3's etc. in the early 2000's. What kept it from gaining more popularity was the 'checking in and out process' of digital music recordings and the poor support by Sony of their own SonicStage software. Ironically as Sony were infecting user's PCs with their notorious rootkit embedded in the pre-recorded CDs, they were marketing CD and DVD burners and discs for the purpose of of making your own recordings. Did Sony's various divisions ever talk to each other and did they ever understand what DRM (Digital Rights Management) was about? In the early 1990's in Japan you could purchase a CD and would be offered by the store employee a blank cassette tape of the approximate time length of the CD recording so that you could make your own copy. I don't know if that practice continued after Japan became a signatory to the Berne Convention.
It was SONY fault, they never had a clear route/plan for it plus it's adversion to license it to 3rd parties at first. Also MD data arrived late and it was incompatible at disc level not a logical level making it irrelevant and too expensive, Hi-MD also was to late and poorly marketed and somewhat limited. The DRM implementation and software available didn't help as most of the time made the things difficult.
SONY made a grave mistake making it to not support HD audio in later iterations. Actually I think that if MD suported HD audio and it was well implemented it had the possibility to have much more spread today than SACD, DVD-A or BD-A.
Nothing to do with it. GODAXEN sums it up accurately.@@AwfulWaffle8474
Still using MDs everyday, at home in my car and on my walks . Best format ever .
As a comedy club sound engineer in the early 2000s I used to use MD exclusively for cues and intro tracks... It was far more reliable than cd at the time and much more precise to cue. Also you can quickly edit tracks on the fly and create loops. Plus you can name the tracks which helped when you're trying to quickly find a cue for a live performance... The comedians made sure you knew about it if you messed the cue up! I think it's a great format...!
that's very interesting! what club(s), if I may ask? did you see any cool comics before they "broke"?
@@StanleyKubick1 Jongleurs (if you remember?!) Chatted with plenty of now well-known comics behind the sound desk and up in the dressing room! Jimmy Carr, Marcus Brigstocke, Gina Yashere, Milton Jones to name a few...
@@computerjantje Far better than CD I completely concur!
excellent points in favor of MD from a real use perspective
Fun random tangent on this topic; around the same time period I heard a radio dj have a mini panic attack because he went against station rules and played a cd from his car instead and it started skipping on air
I really wish the MiniDisc would make a comeback. Such an amazing and underrated format that never got the recognition it deserved! It made listening to music really fun. The only bad thing about it was that it was insanely expensive :/
It's never really gone if you never forget about it. I bet there will always be people like us who will keep tinkering with the format. It will always be fascinating to someone. What I don't understand is when people say things like "the failed format" or "the commercial flop" and there about. This thing was made for like 25 years, and they are still making the media. Blank media for beta video tapes was being made until just recently. I kinda think failure seems to be in the eye of the beholder these days. Like when they pull a TV show I love because it only has 63,000,000 viewers... lol. If they didn't hear about it, or they didn't own it, it had to be a failure. Just something interesting to think about.
Physical is sadly dead we don't own shite no more it belongs all to the streaming monopolies our "personal" info isnt even OURS no more this is the day and sge we live in thats why i buy all my stuff physical so i can actually own it
Many Japanese domestic market cars came with factory MiniDisc players. Even Japanese spec E90 BMW's from 2005+ had them as an option. I get to see many imported here in NZ.
Insanely expensive?!? No it wasn't. I got my first MD gear back around 1996ish and I paid around CHF500 (about US$300 at the time) for a combo of a MD deck and portable player from Sony. By then it was only a bit more expensive than quality tape gear. (And the discs cost the same as a quality tape did, but are far more durable.)
As a child of the 90s, yes it was expensive from my point of view, cassettes suited my recording needs right up until recordable CDs became a thing, so MD for me was a non starter until now where I've picked up a couple of Sony NetMD recorders, got them working and a few discs, mostly to explore what I missed back in the day, it's a very good format.
Confession: Always get excited when I receive a notification that there is a new TECHMOAN video. :)
'If anyone wants to hear the difference between these two MiniDisc players...'
_listening carefully on my $5 speakers_
Mat, did you manage to get your hands on some sort of mind-reading device? This is the second video that you've beaten me to by just a couple weeks ;-)
Colin we are happy to watch your video too even if the comment is the same…. Bing said, since MD didn’t take off as well in NA as it did in the EU and Asia - Matt has way better equipment that is much more difficult for us to economically source in NA. An example: Regrettably, I paid huge for a Sony MDS-E58 (But I’m so thankful to have it).
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Minidisc needs to come back... It seems fascinating, even to a teenager 😂
Totally agree!
I collect cassettes, cds, records, minidisc, even mini cd and I come from the same background as you! 😂
Next week... A new phonograph cylinder recording for 2019!
You never know...
Check this out, Rob Scallon actually did just that a few months ago! It's really cool!
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@@SirMikeProvolone WOHOOO Cylinder phonographs are making a comeback!!!! :D ;) hehe
@@smartroadbiker BEat me to it by mere minutes
I was hoping more for a new Tefifon record. Userbase would be much larger!
Techmoan and Anders. Great partnership. Anders is such a talented musician and cool guy. working in the niche of retro synths. Techmoan on next video play ' Orion by Night'. It's a masterpiece of Anders ;)
Techmoan brought me to Anders, but Orion By Night is what kept me there.
I'd love to see inside the place that produces & labels the mini disks !
Doubt they would share their secrets but if you could do a collaboration with them to show us the tech to make the disks & labels that might be really interesting
It looks like they're recording onto recordable discs rather than pressing discs, as indicated by the double-sided door on the disc. The printing is probably done by a UV printer like the one in a recent Strange Parts video.
Still almost brings a tear to my eye. I spent a small fortune on the minidisc 💽 player, recorder etc only to be blown out the water by iPods
I wouldn't have an I anything. I just don't really care for Apple. Apple my I!
@@mikemadden2729 Can see where you are coming from, Mike. The new age download era has pretty much killed music.
@@nuklearpuppy, I know. If I really like something, I'll go out & buy the CD.
Big Digits Don’t be ridiculous, Music is still thriving these days. Physical distribution definitely has taken a hit, can’t deny that.
Yes, there's the Black Keys, the White Stripes, the Northern Mississippi All Stars, the Marcus King Band, the Tedeschi Trucks Band & many other good bands. And I'm 70 years old, a trippy hippie from the '70s! You have to listen to noncommercial alternative, college & community radio stations to hear the good stuff. I listen to KRCL, Salt Lake City; KUNM, Albuquerque; KTDT, Tucson; WWSP, our local college station in Stevens Point, Wisconsin; WSUM, Madison; KDSU, Fargo, ND; CJUM aka UMFM, Univ. of Manitoba in Winnipeg, Canada & even Rock FM 95.2 in Moscow, Russia! The Russians are a bit less alternative & more 'classic rock' but still have a good variety. They ain't heard of Little Feat, the Hellecasters or possibly Phish, unfortunately for them, tho I bet cooler Russians have. They love American, Canadian & British rock, tho & throw on some old King Crimson or some newer alternative stuff now & then.
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I'm so sad they never found a strong position in the market.. I love these.. using them again. Using cassettes really is a pain with all the wifi, phone and other signals really being terrible interference but these are perfect.. still awesome quality.. rewritable more than 1000 times... working smart not rewriting the whole disc by having a table of contents.. these were amazing technology.. Genius stuff for mixtapes and the quality soooo goood
I thought I was the only person in the whole world that still used their mini disk player!! ;)
I was really into minidiscs back in the day... I remember going to the Algarve on holiday with my girlfriend in the 90s and we both had Sony Minidisc Walkmans.. Every day I carried a rucksack full of minidiscs down to the beach! 🏖
I had the Sony MZ-R50 mini recorder. It was a great little machine.
I miss inline remotes with a screen.
@@miked5444 yeah I know the remote had a brilliant little scrolling screen on it.. And a great little jog wheel control
I used to use the optical cable to record CDs from a DVD player with optical out... To be honest it was a chore but the quality was excellent.
I still have my MZ-R50. Still works great. (It was my second MD Walkman, my first was the MZ-R2, which died and was promptly replaced by the then-current MZ-R50.
Also had a car combo CD/MD player, (transferred through three cars over the years!) and a "mini shelf system" CD+tape+MD system that I still have, but the MD drive stopped working years ago.
@@AnonymousFreakYT I sold my R50 and my girlfriends Sony minidisc man (in great condition still boxed) and hundreds of MDs cheap when we emigrated... 😔 To be fair we hadn't used them since having iPods. Now everythings on the phone 😒 but I still have vinyl and cassettes..
Please a video explaining the sound differences of the MiniDisc with the CDs! Range of frequencies and different types of compressions, which is better or worse ... I have understood that over the years the Minidisc equipment were improving the algorithm and exceeded in quality to the CD, can it be??
Fabulous Techmoan channel.
Thank you!!!
Sonido Santo Yes!!! I agree with the request!!!
MiniDisc has the same frequency range like a CD 20Hz - 20kHz. So no difference there. When it comes to the quality there is a difference between the actual quality and the quality that you hear. The actual quality is not better then the one from the CD since Minidisc is still using a lossy compression format. So there is a certain amount of quality loss. But when it comes to the listening experience some people like the sound of the Minidisc better since it enhances different frequencies to compensate the loss from the compression and this results in a fuller richer sound. When it comes to Hi-MD it's a different story since it is possible to record in lossless PCM quality and as far as i know the quality is exactly the same as the one from the CD.
in 2018 year i see MiniDisc community fast growing. And yes, many still love that format. and Anders Enger Jensen MiniDisc are on my Buying list - great news. 👍 Great review!
I was thrilled to see the Denon model. The exact same form factor as the Denon (cartridge based) CD players I used when I worked in oldies radio 20 years ago. Very cool.
My Denon model was purchased in 1996 and it is still running like new. I replaced the drawer mechanism about 18 years ago and probably should have bought some spare parts back then just in case.
I want one but just checked on ebay and, blow me, they are expensive (compared to home units!!)
As someone who was pulling for the mini disc format it's really fun to see a musician I like release a new album. I have no idea where my old player is so I doubt I'll be buying that version and I'll probably just get the download version but it did bring me a smile. Thanks again!
Bought one, no hesitation. I love minidisc and i love the novelty, and the production looks fantastic.
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Notification Squad~
Very much appreciate the work that went into the vector graphics mapped into an L+R AUDIO signal (of all things) to generate your new opening. COOL!! :)
The MiniDisc sounded brilliant next to the cassette. I was a bit blown away. That result was to be expected thought.
Ryan Schaffer a good quality cassette on a nakamichi using dobly C sound better than minidisk. Or at least the same.
It's a shame new cassetes no longer feature dolby. It would get rid of most of the hiss and would put it much closer to the md quality wise.
@@BilisNegra he'd still have a tape recorded without dolby. Nothing even a nakawhatever can change about that.
it was too bright, the cassette sounded better. (and I'm not a big fan of cassette). listen to the hi hat, it sounds great on the cassette and too bright shiny and "pixelated" on the minidisc.
I was blown away myself, that subtle hiss in the background was gone and the music was so much crisper on the mini-disc
That was a fantastic video.. I still remember the magic of my Sony mini disk recorder. It felt like as a kid I was holding some top secret tech. The build was second to none.. And so satisfying to open and close. Awesome vid.. I am subbed!
I used the CD version of the Denon cart player (has the same tan color) in my radio DJ job about 25 years ago. Built like a tank. Should last a long while! Thanks, Techmoan!
They WERE built like a tank. They were designed for heavy 24/7 use.
It’s November 2021 and Minidiscs are still being created. A band called Pitchshifter announced a limited rerelease of one of their 90s albums on minidisc as well as the obligatory vinyl. Managed to get in on the minidisc order and am excited for this to arrive seeing the quality of the printing on the disc. Was a little fearful that it would be a blank with stickers on. Now what did I do with my old MD player..?
I love Anders Enger Jensen's music!!! His soundtrack for the 8 bit guy's game Planet X3 is amazing!
The first song intro Techmoan played reminded me of Jump by Van Halen.
Anders did an excellent job with his half of the soundtrack! I only wish that more than one track of his could have made it into the game so there was a better balance between his work and mine.
@@SpeedySPCFan You did a good job on your part of the soundtrack too. I love that a wide group of people from across the world and put together some really good stuff.
@@MontieMongoose Thanks! And yeah, Russian, Norway, and a couple different parts of the US... makes me curious what the next 8-Bit Guy game is going to bring in.
I wish there were still some of these MD's available to purchase. Unfortunately I discovered this video a couple of years two late.
"It's kind of like a case for, well a Mini CD
.. Oh, it is really"
I have to admit, I laughed out loud at that moment
That's a really nice object in itself - I love that the design on the MD was Tampo printed on to the disc outer. And it sounds crystal clear, too. I love Minidisc as a format - it was so easy to muck about with, putting fades on the last tracks, etc. A system that didn't really get enough love in it's lifetime. Thanks for sharing!
This looks so awesome, can't wait to get my copy! I just ordered it, I am so glad I saw this video or I might not have known this was available on minidisc.
Are you the same Jeremy Heiden that made Blue Wicked?
I am the very same. @@BavarianM
Really enjoyed this! Still use my minidisc players in the workshop every day. Even managed to get Sonicstage working well on my Mac using virtual box running XP. I was also very surprised when I went to Japan to see new MDs sat on the shelf so grabbed as few while I was there. Great format! If a little niche.
So, minidisc went away then? *Looks in her desk drawer* Nope, still there.
I love your videos! I was a minidisc man myself but sadly both my players bit the dust. I remember hooking up my Net MD to a pair of pc speakers to play CCR for some friends in a small village in Sweden in 2003 and one girl was amazed by it!
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I was a over the road truck driver in the early 2000s and recorded oodles of mini discs for playing on the road. They don't skip, take up little space and sound awesome. I sold my Sony and discs several years ago. It was sad the technology didn't last. I loved mini discs!
Everyone hates that I always talk about Minidisc so much, but I really think that it is the 'recorded medium perfected'.
Maybe it’s because you refuse to talk about something more interesting than a dead medium that already lost it’s charm the 7th time you’ve brought it up during a conversation?
Sorry for being rude but there’s really only so much you could say about Minidiscs before the topic gets stale.
@@charlescampuz5812 How can Minidisc be dead dude, look at the love for the medium. Oh, and thank you for contributing to its assured future with your own comments. More interest = More Minidisc revival. I think Sony will end up reconsidering and bring it back. When that happens best believe the market will literally implode. Apple is already drawing up contingency plans to liquidate and leave the audio market.
gmshadowtraders You’re exaggerating things. Then again, what do I expect from one as butthurt as you?
Guys, it's okay. I don't care, really. It's no longer a thing, but that doesn't mean I have to forget about my good memories in high school swapping mix discs with the three other kids I managed to convince to buy minidisc players. People hate it, but the facts are--if you ignore 'time' and instead look at all recording mediums as being released at the same time--that it does basically everything, in the best possible way for a portable audio format.
Great decision Andres! I'm loving MiniDisc in 2019. It may be a novelty but it's one of the coolest novelties around today!
Might have to buy a copy of that (digital download), the music is the kind of thing I've recently started getting into.
I finally got my very first minidisc player and had to pickup this awesome album
I'm always so tickled to see you guys working together. I don't know either you or The 8-Bit Guy, nor do either of you know me. But I've watched so many of your videos that my internal reaction is always akin to "Oh cool! My two friends found each other on their own!"
Well ... in any case, thank you both for being so personable that the illusion of actually knowing you exists.
MiniDisc was the best music format of all time.
I loved MiniDisc, but I owned two expensive portable machines, and they both developed faults and stopped working. I look after my stuff extremely well and I've never had that happen with anything else, before or since.
When I was a college radio DJ they replaced the cart Machines with mini disc players, and that station used them from about 97 to about 2012. Then the apple computers too over no more CD players or mini disc players needed . I still have my portable mini disc recorded/player and my mini disc deck with some brand new blank mini discs I never used . Mini Disc will always have a place in my heart. 👍🏻. Great video 👍🏻
Sounded nice. I just bought a digital volume of Retro Grooves Vol 3 :)
I miss my portable MD-player from ca. 1999 or so :(
I’m an engineer at Voice of America and we just surplus 300 of the Denon DN-991R decks, some still new in box. I spent many hours fixing them. The biggest problem was the laser emitter burning out, but not hard to replace.
It's nice to have cassette or minidisc for collection... Because nowadays people don't bother about piracy anymore,now everything you can get it online so nobody keep physical media anymore but I still like to keep my favorite movie or songs with just in case if you can't get it online anymore
I still have physical media I like having my own copy of something you never know when they will stop posting a song or it might not be the version you like there's nothing like having your own
Yes... I agree I will have DVD,VCD and CD but I don't collect cassette type,I think disc type of media is still easier to find and buy of the player
Thank you for the video .. Mini Disc is a great format, still use it today for things i want to hard copy ... I absolutely love the sound not to mention the fine tuning of edits to remove commercials or unwanted items that you might have recorded off the radio in years past .... I also use cassettes and vinyl records to this day... still love all the formats !
Also hello from Canada by the way :)
Why in japan everything's not dying and you can get new old tech devices?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿ I mean, let's normalize that on the west or something plz thank u
ENEKO TORRES mostly because they stayed offline. Seriously.
Your way of saying "a bit of fun" really conveys the satisfaction from said fun.
Anders is on Spotify and criminally underexposed there , go check him out!
Wow, that music sounds so nice, that I'm thinking about buying the digital downloads and then recording them on my minidisc and tapes, to me that is the real pleasure, I really love recording stuff, it's so calm when everything works out fine :)
I love physical music but space is an issue so in some ways id quite like Mini Disc to return as the discs are smaller and easier to store than CDs. will never happen obviously but it would be quite handy but that of course still requires my favourite artists to use the format
The only thing that would make sence is a HI-MD comeback cause that gives you everything you could dream of as a minidisc fan.
Thank you so much for this segment! I am still using a late 90s mini disc player that I used to transfer LP albums onto that were relatively rare. I also have my mix recordings from the 90s and 2000s. It is so funny when people see it now and have never heard of it. And it still functions perfectly. I'm always amazed at how rich the sound quality seems. This may be because you could set the recording level manually. It is a Sony mds-je520
Here in Japan can buy box of 200 MD used blank or recorded for as little as UK-pounds 10. Dead stuff.
Some 7-11s around here still have them alongside CD-Rs and DVD-Rs. I've seen VHS tapes too. I think a lot of it is just old stock that is kicking around and it makes sense that there is MD stock in Japan because it somewhat popular here.
3.5 inch floppies were still available at the computer shop near me a few years ago but now yahoo auctions or amazon market place seems to be the only way to get them.
@@donpalmera
I sure would like in on that deal. I will pay!!
@@KRAFTWERK2K6 Huh? I see them on the local auction site (ricardo.ch) all the time for not that much money, used ones sell for almost nothing. And I ordered 10 brand-new MDs from Japan and it was only $42 including shipping to Switzerland.
@@tookitogo In the US they are hard to find and expensive. I'd like to get in on some of these deals if you have more info. Thanks.
Nick Charles Look on eBay. There are some Japanese vendors that sell the sole remaining Sony new discs at reasonable cost.
Also, if you see used discs for sale locally at reasonable prices, don’t be afraid to get them, since minidiscs don’t wear out.
Re; The TASCAM MD-CD1MK111 Mini-Disc Recorder/Player. Hi Matt from Australia. This unit brought back memories. I was involved in multi-cultural/ethnic radio broadcasting for about 10 years. We used to fit these units into our on-air, pre-production and training studios. They replaced our old reel-to-reel tape recorders and were fantastic for quickly editing interviews and putting together programmes and music playlists. I am now retired and all my old training notes and manuals for this equipment are in commercial storage. If I ever get a chance to locate them, I will scan and scan them into pdf files and send them to you.. The Tascams were designed for professional radio standards and were quite robust and reliable, although could be daunting to use for the novice. The most interesting thing about these machines was they they emulated the "old school" manual 'cut 'n splice' editing of audio tape recordings. This made the task of sound editing considerably faster than ever before and the transition to this technology was quiet fast and efficient. Whilst you could edit on the small portable min-disc players, these units enabled you to do it far more quickly and accurately. We also used to produce Community group and public health & safely announcements for 55 language groups and distribute via satellite around the country for other radio networks and remote communities to use. This type of editing and production is a task now done on the modern computer using Pro-tools software etc. I have been watching your channel for about 2 years now and am frequently surfing the waves of nostalgia that wash over me as you dig out old 8-track tape decks, carts, mini-discs, and hi-fi equipment (mine is also in storage in mint condition). Anyway Matt, keep up the good work, and yes, I have no problems with your accent, terminology or phrases. (Router vs rooter and tubes/toobs, vs. valves gives me a laugh as you explain it to our North American 'cousins'). Down under in the antipodes we still use British English for our vocabulary , spelling and pronunciations, albeit with an Aussie accent.
techmoan said "8 bit guy".... time for a new ytp!
After years I'm still using Minidiscs. Still one of my favourite supports. I Bought a case of a hundred 80mn blanks not so long ago and still have Hi-MD blanks too. My Pioneer 707 and my Onkyo 133 are still working perfectly, without any service. Cheers.
Is it me or the sound quality of that album is stellar? I mean compared to crappy AAC or MP3 that is being pushed at low bitrate. Considering it's still garbled by YT compression, it's still sounds like uncompressed heaven.
Funny, I actually found that exact sight about three weeks ago. I’ve been thinking about releasing my next project on MD as well. Seeing those awesome designs definitely might make that a possibility. Glad to see that MDs are still luv’d by MANY. Keep up the great work. ✌🏾👍🏾
The cassette version looks like it has been recorded with a very low volume level (only the first led barely lights up on the walkman). Maybe this is why it sounds so hissy and flat.
Ludovico Operti The song is quiet at the beginning (as I’m not a fan of the ducking compression people slap on every track these days - part of the old 80-90s sound and not give in to the loudnesd war), and its not real time recording but high speed pro bin duplication so there will be a little more noise that way. And I couldn’t get chrome tape as it’s sold out world wide :/
@@AndersEngerJensen Good answer.
Pity chrome ferrics aren't really viable, that would really give MD a run for it's money!
@@AndersEngerJensen it makes me smile just how quickly and passionately you reply to these comments
True professional ❤
Nice. The one thing that would be cool for you to review would be this disc on a Minidisc car deck. Having one of those back in the day would have been amazing.
MD was the best format for making mixes
I love minidiscs...I was a mobile DJ from 1987 to 1999 and put my entire vinyl collection on to it( recorded in real time took me months) ...it never let me down and played faultlessly on the bounciest of dancefloors without skipping (unlike vinyl or CD) ...great format
nice video. I am very lucky to subscribe your channel. I am getting lots of antiquity information from you. your are great man.
Thanks for another great video. Being a die hard minidisc user ( yes, we still exist), that fact that Anders had made a minidisc of his latest album, and so well presented, I could no resist the purchase , so have ordered one. Thanks so much for letting us know about this. And I think minidisc after all these years is one of the very best portable audio systems .
Start new releases on wax cylinders again #MakeWaxCylindersGreatAgain
I’m sure with a bit more work we could get that those grooves with straws on clay fired pots to work ...
You can still buy the Tascam MD-CD1MKIII new in the UK (March 2019), but it's over £700. One of it's main uses is as a dubbing deck for copying CD to MD which it can do at 4x speed. It does have some quirks and bugs though like adding a 1s gap between MD tracks. I do sound for a local AmDram group and have recently returned to MD for its reliability, titling and short track support, although it's more convenient these days to assemble the music/effects using PC tools, write a CD then copy to MD. I have a MKI of the Tascam unit that I use for this (rescued and repaired from that internet auction site).
Who in the sam hell would thumbs down a Techmoan video? Every vid I see from this channel ticks so many boxes that make me happy - tech, nostalgia, curious hardware, you name it. There's nothing to dislike here. Obviously 9 ISIS members clicked this video and got angry that music was available in the caliphate on yet another format.
I don't see a reason why anyone would thumbs-down any video, unless they just disagree completely with the fact that the content exists.
There are trolls everywhere. That's why.
Matt, you're like that cool uncle in the city that we visit from time to time, and when we do, you always have something neat and fascinating to show us. Much love this Valentines Day!
About the best sound playback from any upload what did you ruse to record the music for this one?
Love MiniDisc so much. Couldn't afford them back then (China was far less rich 20 years ago...) and it was one of my biggest regret in my life not owning a MiniDisc player when I was young. This episode together with the appreciation ep comfort the young man deep in my heart...
I loved, loved, loved my MiniDisc players back in the day. I owned multiple portable models over the years, right from the Sony MZ1 that I bought on a whim from a random electronics shop while visiting NYC for the first time in 1993. I also had a dedicated recorder in my living room for making my own 'mix-tapes' and copies of CDs to strut around with. It wasn't until I broke down and bought a 160 GB iPod classic in about 2007 that I finally moved away from MiniDisc. I wish now that I had kept the machines and discs instead of selling them in a bundle on ebay for a song in 2012. Oh well, live and learn.
Minidisc seems like 8track. People still have a warm place for it, but it’ll never truly come back.
The big difference between MiniDisc and 8-track is that 8-track sucked even in its day. MiniDisc was a legitimately superb format that just happened to not catch on in USA, despite being popular in Europe and Asia, and so is neglected or dismissed in tech media.
まさきただし false equivalency
We'll see. The public MIGHT get a brain yet. The USA would still be using 8 track (if not 4 track) if the rest of the world didn't drag it forward.
That tape hiss brings back memories, but there is something I noticed having a direct side by side comparrison - I had never heard MiniDisc, but one of the complaints I remember hearing is that a lot of the dynamics were missing. Now I get it is also going through UA-cam compression, but the MiniDisc, other than the the tape hiss not being there, seemed to be "brighter", almost like the bass and treble on the two machines were set differently - the MiniDisc sounded like bass was turned completely off and the treble was cranked up. This gave the impression of the music sounding "brighter" and "fuller", but when compared to the tape, you could really tell how much dynamic range was missing.
I know Audio on MiniDisc is compressed, but I was not expecting that dramatic of a difference considering they were using ATRAC 4.5. I am not sure if it is the MiniDisc itself, or if the duplication house did some adjustments, or if it was the playback equipment, but yeah, there was certainly an audible difference (even without the tape hiss).
Could it possibly be because of the 'more natural' analogue to digital conversion? I suspect the minidisc copy was made going straight through SPDIF or coaxial digital connectors, so without any analogue anywhere in the chain. The tape instead went the analogue route, being tape of course. Maybe if the minidisc was also recorded the analogue way (because you can also do that on Sony MD hardware decks), then Sony's 24-bit A to D converters would be superior to the tape version?
I have to say... that tape sounded amazing... Sure not super sharp but still really great...
When I was a theatrical sound designer and before running shows directly off a hard drive, I loved using MiniDisc - editing, reorganizing, adding and deleting tracks, labeling tracks directly on disc, and, as on the video, instantaneous cueing. After 10 years of shows, only 2 discs ever wore out. If it wasn't for the audio compression issues and size limitations, I'd still be using them.
Techmoan! You're costing me a small fortune! It's my first pre-recorded minidisc purchase too. I now have over 100 minidiscs even though I rarely listen to them (1990s was not a good decade for pop) and as you said streaming is more convenient nowadays.
What facinates me is the design of the minidisc brands and models, meaning the minidiscs themselves, not the players. I occasionally go to eBay and look for sealed minidiscs that I don't yet have. I might even start a tech UA-cam channel including sealed minidisc 'unboxing', and burning discs using my Windows XP laptop.
So you're costing me time and money! The upside is that your videos are my favourite form of entertainment currently.
@@herranton I'm not getting into a fight with you, you're clearly younger than me. Suffice to say, 80s rules 😉
Who gives a fuck about 'pop' when there's rock, country, jazz, blues, etc? I laugh when I see a
sign in the record department that says "POP & ROCK". The 2 shouldn't be lumped together or
even mentioned in the same breath!!!
@@ColinBowen, Nah, '70s & '90s rule, tho I always found good stuff in all the decades
if I dug deep enough into alternative, college & community radio. Even the twennyteens!
I thought the '80s had somewhat less variety due to MTV, mostly.
@@ColinBowen, Where the fuck did the time go? I'm itchin' to
celebrate my 70th birthday this year with a long cruise, some
loud tunes & a couple hits of good acid, LMFAO!!!
When Ma turned 60, I gave her some homegrown psilocybin mushrooms & took her for a
road trip with the alternative & rock tunes blasting. She understood & loved it, LMFAO!!!
I turned my brother on too. He was a county cop & couldn't stop laughing, HAHAHA!!!
When I worked as an assistant engineer and weekend air talent at WNKS 95.1 in Charlotte in the late 90's and early 2000's, we installed that exact Denon MD player to play our jingles and commercials to replace our old cart players.
This is really cool, and I'm glad to see that someone is still making new Minidiscs@
But for me the best part was seeing that Denon player in action. I had bought one off of Ebay when I first started putting my collection of old hifi equipment together. When it was delivered, I missed the FedEx man by a couple of hours, and in that time, thrives had stolen it off of my steps!
That’s a sad tale. I’m so glad they don’t leave things on doorsteps here.
That's very sad! What's even sad is that the person who stole it will not know what to do with it! Except try to pawn it off again! Sad! Sad! Sad!
Techmoan . Oh yes they do. Luckily I called home on Monday to find a box left on my doorstep by DPD. I live on a busy road so it could have gone by the time I usually get home about 3 hours later.
In Norway they call you up and they accept remote opening of my garage door as signature. That works very well..
Thank you so much for featuring us in your video! It is always great to see the final product in use and we thoroughly enjoyed working on Anders' MiniDiscs!
When you click on a Techmoan video and click like while the adds still running Lol.
I'm a live sound engineer, and still touring with MD for backup!! It's still very alive!
the onkyo has the best audio
I loved mini-disc back in the late 90’s. In fact, I’d say it’s the media format I’ve had the most fun with over the years. I’m pretty sure I’ve still got a Sony deck and a couple of their Walkmans in storage somewhere and this video has made me want to go and dig them out. Thanks!!
Outstanding as always! A couple of questions. I was wondering if these were like the pre-recorded ones from Columbia, where the sliding door only exposed one side and if it was a one sided disc? Or are these redesigned blank minidiscs? Also, because of your many years of tinkering, would you know of a reason my MZ-1 only plays pre-recorded minidiscs, but won't play tracks that were previously recorded on blank minidiscs?
Regarding your player only playing pre-recorded discs, I might be barking up the wrong tree here, but I was watching a video where someone was fixing a CD player that wouldn't play CDs. He said that the laser degrades over time as was not powerful enough to read the disk. If I remember correctly, there was a potentiometer screw near the laser that controlled the power of the laser. He turned the screw to increase the power to the laser and that solved the problem. He said, though, that if you turn it up too much it would blow the laser. I have no idea whether minidisc players have a potentiometer for the laser.
Pre-recorded discs were pressed, and recordable are burned. Perhaps your laser is not powerful enough to read the burned ones but it's ok to read pressed ones.
I hate to suggest what might be obvious, but have you cleaned the laser? Remember, lasers can blind you, so make sure the unit has no battery inserted and is not connected to the power before doing any servicing.
The album is a recordable MD which has been printed with inkjet lacquer.
As for your MZ-1: The reflected (optical) signal from a recordable MD is much weaker than from a pressed MD. Most likely, the laser has degraded and is not outputting enough light. But as Colin said, it's so easy to blow up the laser by adjusting it too high. (I'm sure you can find the service manual for it if you really want. But it's probably not trivial to adjust.) With an MZ-1, which is comparatively rare, I'd probably retire it to being a museum piece, and use a different MD player for actual use.
That's the great thing about digital formats, provided that the basics are working you will get 'perfect' sound, as opposed to the numerous annoying degradations caused by ageing analogue gear.
Japan does everything right
@jeff Webb nah lol
@jeff Webb and whaling
@jeff Webb and cars
And not doing genocides in nanking
And still using fax machines in 2019.
Oh man! So, I've recently stumbled across your channel and enjoy watching your videos before I fall asleep. I have always (like I'm sure everyone) loved music and the recording of. But.... as of now, I can finally put a face to the voice lol. Anyways, keep up the great, and well educated, content!
Actually, as a kid we had a JVC camcorder that used these little minidisks. Might be interesting to look into
Did it use Minidisks, or mini DVD's?
Ah you’re right, it was totally mini DVD. Because I remember using the miniDVD-RW that came with it to transfer files when USB sticks were still expensive.
Wow! There was a cool little popping noise in the music (by which I mean it was an intentional part of the music) which I didn't even notice on the cassette; the noise obscured it. That minidisc sounds pretty bada**! I much prefer the sound of the MiniDisc over the tape. 👍
I don't understand how they release cassette with such low dynamic range and poor highs these days. I have machines at home that are away from those nak and i manage to achieve way better recording than this.
Got the same Sony MZ-R3 when I was in Japan in 1994. Love that little device. Such a nice, elegantly designed machine. Carried it everywhere with me until MP3s took over. Still upstairs in my bedroom.
Kanye took too damn long with Yandhi I guess SMH
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I was searching for this joke in this entire comment section, thank you.
I still use Minidisc today, I have a Pioneer full-size MD player and replaced my Cassette deck with it many years ago. I still kept the cassette deck (pioneer CT656) as I just couldn't bring myself to sell it. I bought a stock of blank MD's and have yet to use the all up. Great to see that MD is sort of alive again.
The price for those cassettes is a bit ridiculous (24$!!)
c6030315 Again, if you investigate, you’ll find that to be including worldwide shipping. And everything including packaging, designing the entire thing, mastering and not to mention the thousand of hours put into composing and recording all the songs... I don’t know... earning about 50 cents per song in profit per cassette is too much?
c6030315 It's roughly the traditional price of a new CD. But it was more expensive to manufacture due to low number of disks.
Check some cassette releases on Bandcamp - these are way overpriced in comparison. And yes, I'm factoring in shipping.
The dollar sign goes BEFORE the number.
It's roughly the same price as you will pay to buy direct from many mainstream artist's website for their commercial products. Recently announced pre-orders of new albums from two major recording bands I follow have both been $25 + shipping. So if this is shipping included it is substantially better value.
You never know, but if you ask him he may be prepared to stop eating, and go around naked, so you can have it cheaper.
I still have my stationary MD-player and home recorded MDs and even new ones (still wrapped). Really nice format i must say!
Very cool. Nice to see album released that way on mini disc, as well as the art and stuff. So cool. Going into 2020 now. Thanks for sharing this
i still have my player sitting gathering dust downstairs somewhere. the sound from that mini disc cd combo player is absolutely stunning. it is so rich and full. i also have probably 40 or so mini discs i recorded onto, all kinds of music i put on at the time. seeing this made me want to get it out again.
Awesome!
I'd love to see a careful look inside those broadcast MD machines, to see how they modified the mechanisms to handle the rigors of professional use.