@Arcadi4.44 I said her anger was misguided. On top of it she went willingly. Even a child knows how to properly direct their anger. Or are you asking about the p3d0 part?
I was doubting the letters authenticity until I heard, "she didn't make the bed because she didn't know how"...knowing that Eugenia doesn't know how to boil water or blow up a beach ball, the statement sounds true.
I'm wondering if she has some form of autism. She misses social cues, has no clue how to do simple things, acts strangely in public, and that's just a few things. Just my opinion
@@madiArabellatbh I never cracked an egg till I was 19. I don’t like eggs, plus my parents like cooking so I never needed to learn I guess. Then one day I volunteered at a school event. Our tent was making some kinda food from Spain. I forget. I got the egg cracking job. First egg, I took it and just slammed that shit on the table and it shattered 😂 after that I was off the egg job.
It’s all healthcare staff, not just doctors. Nurses , Lon’s, dieticians, nutritionists, social worker, aides, reception staff and even janatorisl staff
Eugenia never was a “sweet” person. she had a lot of sass even when she wasn’t malnourished and insane because of the constant hunger. so it’s not that hard to believe that she was throwing tantrums.
That's unreasonable. Being Quasi Recovered makes ypu hungrier than when you're sicker. When you're sicker your brain stops sending signals to your body that you're hungry because you aren't eating either way. If you're partially recovered, those pangs come back. It's even worse when you had that done to you against your will.
@@HiforestThere’s no hate, it’s called accountability. She’s a fully grown adult, not an invalid child. She is responsible for herself. I’m tired of y’all giving excuses for everything and wondering why people act out. An ED is not an excuse for anything, and it’s not a mental disease like schizophrenia. Sorry but it’s not. Plenty of us have mental disorders, it doesn’t mean you get to be a pain in the rear. Stop this. You’re just hurting people, not helping.
@@Hiforest are you actually serious????? You're comparing cancer to anorexia? SERIOUSLY????? People cant bring on cancer themselves, your comparison is sickening and it disgusts me!!! It's obvious you are clueless about the two and shouldn't be talking about something you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT!!!
Here’s my theory based on all I know and my life experiences. Eugenia is also autistic, like her brother. But she has lower support needs (in autism terms). That said, her parents (mostly mom) want to keep their babies dependent forever for cash. I see different levels of this in special ed. The way parents do this is by spoiling her rotten and never teaching her any basic life skills. Some will even reward helpless or bad behavior, because it shows the world that the child is incapable of caring for themselves and needs that carer to take the checks. Note: I don’t think it’s munchausens by proxy. I think it’s money. The reason is because many munchausens moms want to be seen as a heroic mother. Eugenia’s mother is just erratic and dismissive of her daughter on camera. Eugenia started posting videos on her own based on the clips I’ve seen of early content. But when she began to gain a following, her parents took control of the channel to make sure she still looked like a child to the public and to get more money. You can see the videos over the years escalate from Eugenia having fun, to Eugenia showing off her illness, to anxiety bating with weird details that mom definitely saw posted. I think we see what mom wants us to see. Now, that starting of the initial channel was clearly a common teen way of making her own identity at the time. When that didn’t work, along with other off-camera ideas to gain control, the ED started. ED behavior is often taught to child actors to stay childlike, so I’m assuming mom either already showed her bad habits to stay young looking or at least won’t force treatment for this reason. Plus, sick=easy to control. When her friends got her treatment, Eugenia is said to have panicked, saying her mom’s heart would give out. And her driver and mother were angry to the friends. The mother has a financial incentive to keep her daughter sick. In treatment was probably the first time Eugenia had to do anything as an adult. Even in that restrictive environment, she was unable to keep up. And her means of coping was taken away. Having never experienced this, she melted down repeatedly, a combo of autism and spoil. For them to release her back to mom, she probably got love bombed into that transition. Especially since I’m sure she’s more restricted in freedom than ever so that she isn’t re-admitted. Treatment didn’t work, because they need to treat her like she’s 4 and work their way up. And no ED clinic is prepped for a 30yr old toddler with a rich, Karen mom.
What is the point. She did not go to get treatment. She was forced into it. I would be very unpleasant if that was done to me. Please don't misunderstand me. She needs ED treatment. However, nobody should be surprised that she was angry and not cooperating. You can't make someone take help if they don't want it.
There is no excuse for taking it out on staff who were just doing their job, let alone others who were there innocently trying to recover. Stop excusing her bad behavior. Boo hoo she didn't want to be there. So what ? How was that any of their fault ? Her behavior was inexcusable. (Allegedly) 🙄
She voluntarily went to ed treatment. It was secondary. She was 5150 to a psych ward where they suggested she go into treatment for her ed. So, again, no excuses.
@SpicyLizard- I agree. I really dont understand the comments made in her defense. I was put into treatment against my will by my father, whom I didn't have a relationship with at the time. I was using heroin and on the brink of death. I was absolutely pissed when my father reached out to my judge and had me court mandated. I won't lie, I went in there very angry. I wasn't an idiot and I knew I needed help and was in a bad way. I didn't take it out on staff or other patients. I put my head down, did my time, and actually listened at times. I was young, too. The way she probably acted is just inexcusable.
@ladykupo everything you were going through and you still had common courtesy towards others. I hope you're doing great now. 🤍 Some people will excuse anything she says or does, it's sickening that they think she should never be held accountable for anything she says or does.
If EC didn’t monetise her ED, I would prob think this was in bad taste. But for some reason, UA-cam allows her to influence lots of young men and women for cash. I have no doubt she's a mean-spirited princess.
@@SpicyLizard-as if that means anything. That's what really sick people tell themselves because it makes it seem that they could get better if they wanted to...they just don't want to.
wanting to get better is not really a choice. if you are rock bottom in to an eating disorder, you get in this weird delusional state, that is not comparable to anything else .
@@SpicyLizard- oh, I've never seen the lace. I've seen the bald patches, and her tug at her hair. I don't know anything about extension though. How can we not see them with how thin her hair is?
Honestly, i actually believe this. Ive called her out on her ways and the way she talks and acts many times on here and insta, i always tell them to go and watch certain videos and old videos off her and the famous skinny mini video, i explain what she does, her mum does and everything; doesn't take long for them to see it too. I believe all of this, she is not innocent and she doesn't care. and i feel awful for everyone around her and i hate the fact some people use her but also, its what she gets when she doesn't listen to anyone. she isn't dumb etc, she plays it. Its such a shame
As someone who’s been forced into residential treatment, it’s a very traumatic experience. If you don’t think you need help and don’t want to be there, this can make it worse. Im embarrassed to admit I had several outbursts of anger during my treatment. I would really hate for a fellow patient to anonymously put me on blast when I was there because I needed help.
It seems very reasonable there would be outbursts considering it's against your will. Even if it wasn't. I dont think most would hold that against you or her but how you behave in between the breakdowns would make a huge difference. If this is true it sounds like it was an every day thing with no good behavior in between..
@@elizabethg-rj5tg this because I felt excluded and it took my buddy 2 months to help me out, I called her out for her bad behaviour, treatment that was clique but putting me under the radar and refuse dbt even when I asked and explained I have no idea how to deal with these emotions I broke down so much and felt really excluded which brings up my trauma abd embarrassed to say I lashed out only because of the fact I was feeling to excluded and it's cliquey and the fact I had no idea I even had adhd so with those issues treatment couldn't help me, I had to help my own self which I did. So glad I got out, it was very bad coming to residential treatment because I had Undiagnosed adhd I got told to shut up by someone in treatment and bullied I broke down to staff saying I didn't feel safe and that this certain individual was bullying me, I was glad another girl stuck up for me then another and yes the bullying did stop after she got used to me, I swear staff should have kicked her out fast because what if I didn't want to leave my room? I used to do that because of trauma.
@@galilaya42 I experienced a " dark" side too during anorexia and anorexia recovery. it was a state that would make me want to hurt and destroy. I imagine you could compare it to a werewolf frenzy. it would happen everyday, sometimes multiple times a day, just every time something negative came up. so you see; it was kinda a permanent personality, people around me experienced. Even when I was calm, people would mistake it for manipulation, because I would go off like a bomb just seconds later. I remember I really wanted to stop upsetting others and myself, but in the moments I just could not stop. I harmed myself instead of others, just started running until calming down or destroyed my own stuff to deal with the anger and energy, especially at school, but i just could not snap out of it. I think people don't really ever understood how little choice I had in my own bad behavior. I sympathize with the Eugenia from this story, just because there is a change she might have been through the same as me.
I understand that exposing patient’s information is not an ethical thing to do, whether it is a healthcare provider or another patient. However, I also get where this girl comes from, she saw her and her friends treatments at risk in a way, by having to share a space with someone so problematic. Particularly for this girl’s friend who shared a room with Eugenia. Everyone was struggling with their own ED and at the same time had to deal with the the trauma of their internment, not necessarily because the staff were bad or anything, but because they were forced into a foreign environment and out of their comfort zone, while also paying their money and expecting the best results. It’s a very delicate situation.
Parents and beneficiary will also call in and lodge complaints when their child or loved ones treatment is being disrupted by a patient whose this non compliant. I know things. I've worked on psych wards with ED patients
If someone is unhappy with a fellow patient, they report it to the program directors and people in charge at the facility. They have no right to send a letter revealing private medical info (including naming a person receiving treatment) to some tiktoker or youtuber. Give me a break.
This is not exposing her medical records, but her behaviour. The only thing that she wrote concerning Eugenia's medical treatmet that shoud stay private is the feeding tube.
@lisa2000geese everything is different for online public figures who put their REAL LIFE AS A DIARY online. Then add they use their disease to garner attention. They monetize a deadly illness as a CAREER choice and model it to minors while spending 24/7 INFLUENCING then with every aspect t of their REAL LIFE If she was an actor and playing a character. I could disagree with you, but influencers make up people UA-camrs who play themselves and tell everyone everything about their lives And then we find out that they're all lies that hurt. Innocent people are absolutely susceptible. To people telling the truth in order to dispel the DANGEROUS lie. There are even times when an NDA loses its legal coverage. The hippa guarantee of patient privacy is between the facility Or clinician and the patient. It has nothing to do with other patients who may have witnessed something while in treatment at the same time... That's a muddy line that we do not have defined in the law. The wotn3ss is not exposing data from.a private medical chart.. shes just a witness fellow patient.
@SpecialBlanket except. No. The ones who go to extreme levels of disruption defiance and violent outbursts and Sick manipulations in the face of people who are trained to deal with the worst of it are beyond. What we're used to seeing in treatment. I say this as someone who's worked with patients for 13 years with these same disorders.. No one ever said any of them want to be there, but when you're part of a group or a society, if you are so self-centered and focused on your deviance that you don't care who you hurt with it, you are sicker than the sick as person there and that's. Just the truth, we do remove these people and we do reject them from treatment. And we do mark their charts as untreatable in a congregate setting g. Thar means no ine is safe around them and thay can onmy be treated in isolation.. Sorry but no
💯 She even made vids mocking her own grandma. Also threatened a kid to "R" them with a mayo covered dild0 and called another child's mom and said she was preg from her son. She loves to play victim. 🤍
@@SpicyLizard- yuuuup I clocked that a lot. Especially with all her “accidental” flashing and the fake voice. I’m happy you’re healing and doing well ✨
@Ghoulx13 hear it ? No, I watched it. Here is one, lemme find the other. It may have been removed from UA-cam, you might have to find it on Reddit but I'll look. ua-cam.com/video/XeMfucD6Wcc/v-deo.htmlsi=6O7yObmMnf-TsXzW
I believe it. I was there during her time on UA-cam when she looked somewhat healthier and non skeletal. She used to post racist stereotype videos and she would often have no problem speaking in her “deeper voice” either especially during her YouNow days.
Even knowing this now and being a little surpised, I still feel bad. Mental health is not easy to deal with. I, myself, might be problematic sometimes due to trauma. I give Eugenia the same amount of empathy if not more. It's very easy to make someone out to be a bad person when you yourself aren't sure if you're also bad. I pray everyday I might see some evidence of her getting better
Ewwie will never recover, it stems from her narcisisism and before your heart breaks for her, know she caters to p3d0s and ana fetishist. That she glamorizes her ed as she aims her content at kids. She allows old men in her community to creep on the kids and silences the children when they speak up. She has even used convicted p3d0s as mods. She habitually flashed the kids in her community at least once a week for over a year on Twitch. I could go on and on. If you're going to have pity, have it for her victims.There are people in the ground because of her lies. Be well. 🤍
She plays the victim very badly. But her followers are kids. I have no idea how the parents of these kids even allow them to send stranger on TikTok money. What do they get out of it??? Why do people send these idiots money on TikTok I don’t understand!!!! If a stranger asked me to send them money online I would laugh and block them lol
Eugenia is so spoiled. The sweet act she does for the camera is a big lie. She is an actress. And when you see her on camera, acting all nice and innocent, it's just fake. Eugenia can be mean. She has a dark side. She can be manipulative. She has no interest in fighting her ed. She glorifies it, disrespecting people who struggle in private. She was never doing well in recovery because she does not want to get better. It's terrible she was so disruptive. I get anorexia treatment is difficult, but she truly had no interest in being there. She couldn't even try to be civil to others. I got really scared in anorexia treatment too, but the other girls were so friendly to me and I eventually got less scared and started eating. I liked talking to others who were going through anorexia, because it made me feel less alone. Eugenia doesn't sound like she wants to make genuine friends with people. it is in times like that where you need emotional support and understanding. She pushed it away. Eugenia didn't sound truly anxious or afraid in there. She sounded like she did not want to even be peaceful around others or try to do better. Anxiety is one thing. If you are truly rude and disruptive to others, that is something the person needs to deal with
You're not alone sweetie. 🤗 How anyone can fall for her act when it's so obvious I'll never know. I knew immediately what she was. She'll never recover, she knows she's nothing without her ed, it's all she is and it will take her. 🤍
Not one second would I even question that email. I 100% believe that is very true. I'll have to go back to a video that all of you have seen .Oh Lordy it's Jordy did a reactionary video of her and her mother at Disneyland in Orlando, FL. I will tag the time in which she does exactly what the girl who was at the same treatment center as Eugenia. It mirrors this girl's allegations . I only say that because not one person brought up this moment that Eugenia doing in the video. Not even Jordy caught it. I've always known deep down that Eugenia is the terror in that household and is the one who keeps everyone hostage with her illness. I honestly believe to this day her family gave up on her in the sense of getting her professional help because of these outburst. Where they went wrong is not holding her accountable. Instead they did the opposite, gave her what she wants to shut her and tune out the monster btw the walls. I'll be back with that tag. Shortly. Thanks for uploading the truth .
I believe it 💯 and I couldn't agree more ! She's a manipulative narcissist and momster does her bidding. She is no innocent. Not saying momster is either and it is on her for not booting her out a long time ago and for catering to her. I'm really interested in seeing what you saw on the Disney vid ! 🤍
@@SpicyLizard- Oh and another reason why I believe this girl's chain of events. As soon as she mentioned Eugenia needed to be in an isolation room. I was like boom. For those that don't know what an isolation room is let me break it down.I've had to do this with some of my patients. An Isolation room when inside all you have is your bed if you're not harming yourself and, if you're not using your bed as property destruction. Sometimes your mattress is on the floor no bed frame. in the bathroom the shower curtain is removed there is plexiglass over the tv if there is one in the room (No cords ). It's for safety reasons so that the patient doesn't do property destruction or for those who have intermittent Explosion disorder, self harming. covers for plug in sockets are removed. Toiletry... Toilet paper dispenser the rod that goes through it is removed or staff has to give them the toilet paper. One so they don't use it as weapon the other some patients clog the toilet and sink so then there is flooding issues. Also in isolation sometimes a code grey is necessary and that is when restraints have to be used in case the patient becomes combative. An isolation is also to keep other patients/staff safe when a patient becomes verbally abusive and makes threats. It's also used for de-escalation for the patient.
@@SpicyLizard- Yes I'll try and tag it tonight. I went on his page and he has a lot of videos and I have to sort it out at around a year ago when he first started talking about her. He's got several Disney ones. It's gonna take a moment . I have to catch some zzz'z rn I gotta work tonight. I'll post the title of the video and tag it at. work on my break tonight late. You guys will be asleep but you. should see it when you have a moment tomorrow
@user-qu9yx8nq1h Why can't you blame her for treating innocent people like crap ? The staff is there to help and the others were there innocently trying to recover. No one there had anything to do with her being there and they deserved none of her attitude. She's old enough not to be misguiding her anger. Stop making excuses for her.
@@SpicyLizard- Ewe McStinky is back😹 she wish’s she did that but she didn’t what she needs to do is clean her house and get rid of all those nasty P stains on her bed & furniture instead of wasting time talking nonsense Can you imagine the Stench in her Dirty nasty house 👃🏻
It sounds valid. I don’t judge it too much because Eugenia is clearly developmentally delayed and in denial of her illness. People often have a rough go the first time in treatment, especially if they’re in denial. I saw plenty of people like this when I was impatient a few times. Still, it’s interestinghow her defense mechanisms throughout clause when she felt threatens and start contrast to how she presents herself on UA-cam
Right ? Nobody would bother making this up and contact someone else to post it. If it were for spite it would be a lot worse and she has been bald a long time. 🤍
I was an entitled, miserable brat when I had anorexia. I would suck all the air out of the room and a chore to be around for most people. Of course, those who didn't understand the disorder were very hurtful, but I certainly didn't help myself from ridicule either. The disorder eats your mind and all your reason. It makes you self-absorbed to ungodly level. I know she has also been coddled her whole life, so I can imagine it was even worse, but yeah anorexia is not glamorous or beautiful. It's painful and soulless.
There's something I truly don't understand and I don't know if the answer is that we're simply built different or something... I never had anorexia, but I was underweight when I was like 11-13, not because I refused to eat though. I went to the doctor because I was often (every day actually) dizzy and weak, so I just don't understand how people with anorexia like Eugenia (who are way thinner than I ever was and are eating improperly) can have the energy to do anything and how she can stream without fainting. It's not meant to be a rude question, I'm simply curious and amazed at how strong she seems considering her weight.
@@Carolina-ql1knShe likes the way she looks. That's her determination is basically that made her want to live for achieving her looks like that. She can't be without her phone since she wants to be in live with her audience to show her favourite body which is this.
@7SBeatsMM7 I agree with that. A huge drive through dopamine or adrenaline can keep you alive and energetic for a long time. I drank pots of coffee and diet coke to stay up and feel normal. In reality, I was an anxious wreck. The slightest inconvenience, especially around food or exercise could set me off.
There's a ton of anorexia patients (far into the illness where it is definitely eating their brain) who are very sweet people. It's not an excuse for being an asshole
For everyone coming on here to cry about "HIPAA" read this first. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE PATIENTS From the National Library of Medicine. National Center For Biotechnology Information it states : To Whom Does HIPAA Apply? HIPAA applies to all healthcare institutions and healthcare workers, who submit claims electronically. For example, if you are a healthcare worker and transmit or even discuss PHI with others who are not involved with that patient's care, then you violate HIPAA. However, there is a HIPAA rule that permits disclosure of PHI without prior obtained consent for healthcare operations, treatment, and payment. This includes consultation between providers regarding a patient, referring a patient, and information required by law for public health safety and reporting. These exceptions cover the majority of clinical uses of PHI. Other disclosures demand explicit patient consent and apply to everyone in a healthcare facility, including: Providers Nurses Pharmacists Administrative personnel Foodservice Clerical Janitorial service All other healthcare professionals The HIPAA policies also apply to any interns and volunteers who work under supervision at a health clinic or hospital, third-party contractors, or business associates, including: External laboratories External imaging services Outside computer repairman Accredited agencies that conduct patient surveys Medical equipment companies Pharmaceutical salespeople
@rainstorm9023 her behavior discourages others from going in. Who wants to deal with a narcissistic, y0tch while trying to recover ? She triggers them into having to be there in the first place anyways sooooo.
@rainstorm9023 you want to talk "awful" ? Yes, let's do that. Let's talk about all th3 children that have been groomed and creeped on by the pedos she surrounds herself with, convicted pedos. Want details ? How about the fact that she instructed her mods to silence any child who spoke about it or any adult who spoke up on their behalf ? This has been verified by 2 former mods, both who quit, one was with her for years, a licensed psychologist and her position was verified by the other mods. How about the fact that she's a child groomer, who glamorizes her ed as she aims her content at kids ? How about the fact that several girls are cold and in the ground because of her lies ? How about the fact that when an aunt of one of those girls confronted her during a live, telling Ewwie that her niece had passed because of her Ewwie laughed in her face. How about the fact that she habitually flashed kids for over a year while doing lives on Twitch ? Want more ? How about the fact that she caters to ana fetishists as well as pedos ? How about the fact that when Jaded and I exposed one of her simps for having csd's that Ewwie wouldn't ban him until people on both sides demanded he be blocked and even then she wouldn't ban him, a mod had to do it. She wanted him to stay because he gave her money, over $30,000. Want more ? How about the fact that she's been age restrict3d on TT for th3 past several months for flashing and glorifying her ed ? How about the fact that she used convicted pesos for mods ?
@@rainstorm9023"American" behavior vs. behaviour that's UK, Canadian. That's not because you can't spell we don't spell it that way. Plus you're trolling Spicy Lizard hardcore. It's one thing to have an opinion in which you're entitled to and another to keep arguing about nonsense and your facts are wrong. You stated your personal opinion and she pointed out facts . You keep arguing that she changed the subject and she didn't. You've gone from opinion to arguing with her , you still haven't made a valid point. So stop it. Go somewhere else and troll. Peace!
I used to be a caregiver to someone with a disability who can fly into a rage and then be really sweet and then fly into a rage again. I had to quit. So this thing doesn't surprise me. There are people who use their disabilities for manipulation tactics. Nice video by the way❤
I'm sorry you had to deal with that. As I stated in the description, it's not my vid, all credit goes to Tenderslug and yes, I agree, she did a wonderful job. 🤍
@@kellevichy How about I don’t give a crap? After gaslighting audiences for years and after even fusing my own eating disorder as a teenager due to watching her influence, I think I’m entitled to a curiosity of who she really is what went down in what eventually turned to a relapse very quickly. If you have a problem with people like me wanting to know the truth behind her gaslighting that hides who she really is, go cry somewhere else. I have no sympathy for that grown woman; therefore, if I am interested to hear a response with regard to what really happened and who she really is, good on me and anyone else who feels the same way. Because guess what? You don’t get to put yourself on the internet and then be left alone because you think you don’t owe anyone anything. You’re on the internet; therefore, you will be questioned. Your life is on display for the entire world, so she’ll just have to suck up what comes with living a life on social media, let alone a toxic one.
@@SpicyLizard- Exacfly that. Most of her audiences are children and teens. And I’ve heard people say “no sane person would believe that is healthy.” Well, children’s brains aren’t fully developed until the ages of 18-25. So ofc they don’t have the ability to logically irrationalize such bad and unhealthy behavior. And that’s another reason why she’s a problem. But anyway. Appreciate the alleged info. Hopefully it brings a different light and awareness to the people who still support her.
😊Tenderslug is awesome for sharing this as much as the girl who stepped forward is. The truth needs to be told. I hope everyone sees this one way or another ! 🤍 Appreciate you too !
Is it bad as someone with a past eating disorder that i can see when someone is still suffering? I had this happen in rehab when i had an ED and as a recovering addict that another individual who had an ED and an addict i cried seeing my friend as i can tell she wasn't better, kinda liķe a codependent friendship, recovery was the best no phone until i was close to graduating, honestly hearing that she was hard was and is someone you cannot fix and they are hard to handle like i was with adhd in a mental health facility.
While I am not excusing the rude behavior and tantrums which is sad to hear. I did not know she could be like behind the scenes. However based on content she has posted online , I want to be clear that this is a personal theory. As someone diagnosed with aspergers which now you would be diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder, I began to see signs she could be autistic over time that I connected with , with her social awkwardness at large gatherings and various events and how she had difficulty doing various things that required some sort of motor skills, like trying to hit a tiny ball with a golf club and unfolding one of those chairs people bring to the beach, and she was often confused with some comments in her streams that sometimes had like a figure of speech or a light hearted joke. I also was anorexic and it was very difficult to gain weight and eat more, I am glad that I have a better relationship with food now. People who are on the autism spectrum have an increased risk of developing anorexia and have a more difficult time recovering and the normal stress of recovery is even more intense. I remember when she came out of treatment it seemed the entire internet was celebrating and I didnt comment anything to come off as putting her down, but I could see signs in her post treatment online content that she wasnt better. While I hope she does get better- I will mention she has had an unhealthy relationship with food for a very long time and likely experienced concern from family and friends through that time, we may need to accept the fact she may never get over this ED.
I always wondered how she can have such long hair. Now i know. Having this much issues with herself - it is impossible to have stable mind on daily basis. Hormones, chemistry in our body dictate how we feel. True, or not. I wish she will somehow heal.
@shamanessofdestruction7979 she doesn't, this shows her wig lace, microbeads and major bald spots. ua-cam.com/video/fHQC6Wiap4M/v-deo.htmlsi=ggPy_FSW1s5-R2xZ She will never heal. She is in last stages right now.🤍
Given the description of Eugenia's true personality (because I completely believe the writer of the email), it sounds like she has all the hallmarks of someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Not so sure about that footnote, I can only presume that’s speculation on the other inpatient’s behalf. From my own experiences in MH wards, I can assure you, the staff have dealt with ‘bigger & uglier’ characters than Eugenia’s, & they’ll have seen every tactic, tantrum and everything inbetween played a hundred times over. Since Eugenia had put on some weight, I should think she had met the goal set for her by the team she was under, which was why she was then allowed to go home - I’m sure her behaviour contributed to her leaving in terms of ‘she’s now reached her goal, we can’t do anything more for her here’ as she would’ve been a hinderance to the others recovery, but she was likely ready to be released anyway. Her behaviour doesn’t shock me one bit.
Seeing this makes me reflect on how I behaved at my eating disorder residential and I am appalled by how much my behavior resembled Eugenia's back then. The first thing I said after I came out of the bathroom after purging was that I really didn't want to be the fattest one there. There's fucking nothing that could be more triggering than to say that. It got to the point that I started attempting to purge at the table just because I wanted the attention and shock value. I jeopardized everyone else's recovery because I was an entitled brat who didn't care that I was terrorizing the mental wellbeing of equally sick patients. I can't do anything to take back the ghastly behaviors that I inflicted on others in the residential. So it will plague my conscience for the rest of my life that I terrorized these innocent suffering people who didn't deserve anything but compassion and support. This is how eating disorders strip you of you of compassion and diggity and morph you into a monster. I'll never be able to take these sins back. To the people of that residential I am so sorry.
Once you're 18 years of age if you're not mandated through the courts you're not obligated to stay. You can sign yourself out of treatment before it ends. The only time you're not allowed to do it if the judge says no or it's part of plea deal ( mandatory 51/50 or 52/50 ) as well in a criminal case to seek help whether it be for drug, alcohol or an ED and anything in btw.
Can they make you stay if you are autistic, even if you are over 18 at the time of treatment? That's what they did to me. I could not leave the inpatient centers I was at. Like can they make you stay based on how sick you are, how badly you need refeeding? I begged and cried to go home and could not leave. No matter how many times I asked to leave
The only way they can enforce that is by having a hearing. That doesn't mean you're necessarily at the courthouse. All's it takes is for a licensed medical provider to ask the courts for the patient to stay longer. All they have to do is show proof the patient needs more time. Also if they think the patient isn't ready to integrate back into the community , are they safe. So yeah if a judge signs off on their request you can be held there against your will. There is a difference between involuntary and voluntary.@ashleyphillips5477
Also when people get into a situation when it comes hospitalization or knowing your rights you should have an advocate who knows the process, can help navigate or speak on your behalf. A lot people don't have that or they're unaware of that information. It helps. Advocates can help find legal help, housing, financial and an easy and safe way to transition from treatment and back into the community. Not everyone has family or someone who can vouch for them. They can also help persuade a different outcome. Caseworkers aren't always helpful, sometimes they're because they're overworked with their caseloads so that 1:1 support isn't always there. Having an advocate they're there to support the patient or client. There on your side. You may not need it but it's always great info to pass onto someone who's going through it. @ashleyphillips5477 @@ashleyphillips5477
She needs to be shut down from the entire internet. This is so disturbing, and her "influences" are hurting vulnerable kids. Her being known as "famous" is so disturbing on so many levels.
Thank you for sharing. I believe the letter, it sounds genuine. Like someone else said, saying she didn't know how to make the bed absolutely sounds like her. She didn't know you could make icing ffs, she thought you bought it at the store. It sounds like her for sure. She didn't know how to dig a hole to plant something, that is completely common sense. And if she had have tried I don't believe she would have been strong enough to use the shovel properly.
It's not mine, the woman who contacted the original poster and "Tenderslug" in the vid are the ones who shared. She deleted her post due to harassment, I however will not delete. I'm thankful she allowed me to post this. Ewwie can't even use a setting spray bottle without using 2 hands, there's no way she'd work a shovel. 🤍
@@SpicyLizard- Thank you for leaving yours up, I haven't checked on her in a year because it's just so sad so these past couple days I have been catching up.
I understand where she’s coming from and this isn’t excusing her behavior but when In a mental hospital atleast 2 girls out of id say 10-12 acted like this. It sounds like she has issues that go beyond the ed and so much more she is genuinely so starved of help because she won’t let anyone help her
@@SpicyLizard-and? You can want to recover and dont want to recover at the same time. Its a mental disorder. If it was easy everyone would just stope having it. You cant compare mental health problems. Also you willingly put this on the internet. Now you have to live with the reactions 🤷🏻♀️ and as a psychiatric nurse i am really sad you put this online. Noone expects you to be empathetic or understanding while fighting your own demons. But thats it. Concentrate on your own path and leave other patients alone. There is no extra gain from this video except for you getting attention. Something you judged Eugenia for. Of course she demanded attention. She wanted everyone to see that she is hurting and struggling. Thats part of her problem. She wants to be sick.
If I ever see Eugenia in public I’m calling a ambulance the police have to do something about this they can’t let her die they have to put her back in rehab or something
If you’ve seen how her mother is you’ll understand why she is so insane. I feel so freaking bad for her, her mother made her this war and now she can’t find a way to not be this
When I was young I was in treatment . This sounds so true. She is so deep in denial that of course she told others in the group that they were crazy ! We had someone in our group who behaved the way she did and the medical team had not choice but to ask her to leave. They did that for the sake of those willing to be well. A non-willing patient can severally damage the trajectory to wellness and progress the others were on and had. Ms. Cooney is not special or a unique case. She is simply very ill. It rings true because when I first was in I was in treatment- It was the one telling others they were sicker than I. I was read the riot act. I quickly felt humbled but I such a motivation to be well I apologized to the group. I fully recovered almost 40 years ago and never looked back going on to speak to groups and have a fulsome life with two- now grown children. You enter recovery knowing it will be the toughest thing you have ever done. It is not the Four Seasons. After all, unlike alcohol or drug addiction a person MUST eat. The control we need by not eating is by its very nature something we must have to live and is reason anorexia/bulimia are so hard to treat. I quickly that “this is my body- it is where I live!”. I also learnt that the only thing I have complete control of is my current thought. It is helpful for commenters to read about what anorexia really is. It is NOT about a diet gone awry or a desire to be thin. It is about deep psychological issues and issues of low self-esteem, desperate need for perfection, but with big egos, need to control, fear, perhaps a history of abuse or trauma certainly the need to control (hence the need to feel in control for self-protection) self-loathing, personality disorder, emotional immaturity and many other pathologies. Yes. I was the person who went in and insulted my group. I stayed and gained some humility. While I was there a fellow patient died at a cardiac arrest (she was 26) but I met incredible you g woman who were instrumental in my recovery as were my team of doctors. Ms. Cooney’s case is extreme. To young woman who admire her or wish to emulate her and have some of the risk factors - Please know there are so many medical workers, psychiatrists, social workers and nurses who are expert. If non-treated death is inevitable. To you g woman who admire her please find the young woman doing the important things in life- taking care of oneself, loving and helping others and giving. Look for the conquerers. Of course we all like makeup videos and funny stuff on UA-cam. Watching a 30 year old woman pretend she is something she is not to get money is tragic. Her life is so tiny. I fear that many of her followers are very young or are men with fetishes. It is disturbing and unhealthy. Take good care of yourselves and those around you. X
Thank you for your truth Songbird. I'm glad you found the strength to recover, you went through a lot to get where you are, be proud. You're right, so many of her enablers are kids that she aims her content at as well as pedos and ana fetishists. It's sickening, SHE is sickening. Stay blessed. 🤍
fully surprised to learn eugenia is still alive. its impressive how long she's hung on. i still hope that some day she can recover and become a better person and realise the awful she's done while in this fucked mental state because no one deserves mental illness, but she's been fucked for so long that it seems less and less likely she'll ever decide to recover. maybe it'll take a truly scary close call to wake her up. or maybe she's decided she wants to go out like this. who knows how a disordered brain will respond. its just a shame how many lives she's damaged in her selfishness and how many people she'll take down with her. i genuinely dont think she takes pleasure in it though. mental illnesses, especially ones like eating disorders and depression, make you incredibly egocentric. its pretty much impossible to think about how your actions effect others, you are so focused on how you feel at every waking moment and so focused on appeasing the illness' demands. its why one of the first steps in therapy is to make a list about all the ways you have hurt other people with your mentally ill behaviours. but you have to be willing to listen and do the work to step outside of yourself.
You have to factor in the whole habitually flashing children thing, her catering to p3d0s, using them as mods, aiming her content at kids etc. There are dark and evil things going on outside her ed. She's a danger to others in several ways, and people are in the ground because of her and others have lost their innocence because of her.
As someone who has a sleep eating disorder I fully support this video I think more should be made to be an eye opener because sometimes people hear what other people have to say and that's all they need to persuade them to get help
It absolutely is true. As a former patient decades ago in a group setting there is one “Eugenia” in every group. Given her psychopathy, her leaving recovery and crying it was not a five-star hotel or Disney world. it is clear she does not have the courage or willingness to get well. She is severely emotionally immature. Having a true authentic desire to recover from an eating disorder is the hardest thing an eating disordered patient will do. It certainly was for me. These diseases have been around for a hundred years. Social media has given platforms to many ill people. Their motivations are most often not healthy and are self-serving. I went on to live a fulsome life with love and family. I wanted a life!- more than I feared gaining ten extra pounds. And my poor beleaguered body healed and let me carry two beautiful children. When in recovery you “give over control” to get it back”. Such a person who exhibits the behaviours that Eugenia allegedly did is something I have seen before and such a fellow patient truly can negatively impact the other patients trying to become well and clinicians must protect those with the honest willingness to be well. One person was kicked out of our group. This young woman died at the age of 29. I have been a speaker to young girls who have or continue to suffer from eating disorders. I try and tell them “This is your body- this is where YOU live”. Eating is non-negotiable to live. A reckoning of sorts must happen and I was so grateful back then and now to have a therapist, a social worker, a dietician and world specialists by my side. I salute all those who came before me, those in recovery now, and those to come. In my life I have known three young women who did not think they were “as sick” or “as crazy” as the others in the group. All three died of a cardiac arrests. I get very angry at social media allowing this 30 year old woman to portray herself as a role model or a woman another should emulate. I have compassion for her too! I am angry at her denial. I am angry that she pretends all is well. She is tragically, a very ill woman who may very well succumb to this horrific disease.
What is the point in this video? You just think this is vital information that needs to be known or you just thrive on drama? Maybe you are the one who needs to be in treatment.
First off, as I stated in the description, this isn't my video, so you can keep your ignorant and misguided insults. As for the point of it, I can't understand it for you. Maybe try listening next time instead of having a fit over something you don't have the cognitive ability to grasp.
While I was at treatment at renrew center in 2019-- i met someone who had been at the treatment center that EC had literally just discharged from the day after EC left they were admitted and can confirm that it was a monte nido program and those are exceptional care programs but anybody who doesn't want to recover won't get anything out of any program is the sad reality
@@SpicyLizard- Thanks! I actually think she truly struggles with what is called unicorn syndrome in relation to eating disorders. I hold a personal philosophy that everyone absolutely CAN recover from an eating disorder --but not everyone does. Meaning that it's ultimately a choice but I don't believe it's too late for anybody. I would never rob someone even with the most receded and distorted mind and in denial mode of slightest bit oh hope for themselves that can motivate them to change. But unicorn syndrome is actually so common and I have strggled with this too at certain points. Unicorn syndrome is when the individual believes that they are the unicorn and exception to recovery and actually don't believe that they can recover or that the impact of the behaviors will actually kill them or hurt them in any way. They believe they are invincible to the ED essentially. This is particularly common in individuals who are severely malnourished as it has serious cognitive impact on the brain
@angelNoll10 I understand what you're saying but it's not true. It is often too late. Prime example, LiqueFaith, may she rest in peace. Ewwie will never recover, her ED stems from her narcissism. 🤍
I didn't hear her say Ewwie was willing to do anything. I'm thinking that's when they moved her to the "mental institution" ..? Was after a month. That's what Ewwie called it. She said she wasn't in treatment the whole time.🤍
People are going to act like this in mental hospitals, big shocker. Its a hard thing to go through, and I dont think Eugenia should be put on blast for this. She's there to get help, it's stressful to get help, and patient reactions differ from one another.
I can't tell if it's true or not but i definitely can believe in a voice switch thing because she did that one time on her stream. Her voice and the way she speaks became very different.
So I saw the video, and I saw some of the comments. 1. Whether what this person said about eugina is true or not, it definitely is too overwhelming to deal with someone who acts like this. But based on some of what I seen eugina post on her own channel before? Some of these sounds realistic 2. You say in some of the comment replies that eugina went willingly. But not everyone says yes and means it, sometimes people just say yes to avoid drama with others. Sure she may be an adult, but even you and many others agree she definitely doesn’t act like that adult 3. Eugina is only one person, I don’t understand why many still worry / think about her. I only was curious if she uploads still to UA-cam then I find this video. But there’s plenty of people like her who may struggle but not genuinely want to recover It’s better to save your time / energy on other things ❤️ and help should be prioritized only to those who truly want the help and want to overcome their struggles. Plz note: I’m definitely not on Eugenia’s side, nor am I trying to play devils advocate. I’m just a stranger on the internet giving their own personal opinion ❤️ As for Eugenia? She shows she is comfortable with this, there’s nothing more we can do, and maybe take a page out of Jaclyn Glenn’s book and save our time and energy on other things we enjoy / make us happy ❤️
I’m not justifying all of eugenias actions but everyone saying she’s not sweet or innocent. Who is? Of course she’d be at her worse in the hospital and of course she gets angry, complains, etc. she’s human. I think it’s unfair the standards we hold her to.
This is my own experience with most fellow anorexic patients when I was at hospital for treatment, but we were preteens - teenagers... I always give Eugenia the benefit of the doubt because she's sick but then I reflect on the fact that not everyone who was ill with an ED acted this way; including myself. Naturally there were times where we disobeyed or were rude because we felt our progress with losing weight or whatever we sought to achieve was threatened, besides going through puberty, of course. So I suppose it comes down to personality after all, but we mustn't ignore the mental illness that is somewhat influencing her erratic behaviour too.
So instead of people privately trying to help Eugenia they do it on video and all over the Internet to make Eugenia feel worse and to get there a few minutes of fame cuz the only time people watch their videos is if you attach your name to it. This is not okay for you to do this to you and being if you actually cared you would actually do something about it without a camera. It's like all the people that only help the homeless are people in need when they have a camera in their videoing it and get millions of views off homeless people
How exactly are they getting "fame" when it was said anonymously? 😂 "Instead of privately trying to help"? Who owes her anything? 🙄 I don't care but I'll tell you who I do care about, the girls in the ground because they believed her lies, the girls starving themselves because they believe her lies that she's "fine and everything like that" and that her "doctor says that she is fine" as she glamorizes her ed. How about the kids in her community that she habitually flashed multiple times a week for over a year? She aimed her content at them and surrounded herself with convicted p3d0s and ana fetishists. Allowing them to creep on the kids and told her mods to silence anyone who spoke about it. She even had a convicted ped0 as a mod. You can confirm this all with a former mod of hers who quit because of all of this who is a licensed psychologist and her position was confirmed by the other mods. So, maybe put some thought into who the real victims are in the situation.
tbh, exactly what are they supposed to do? people have tried helping eugenia on and off camera for decades. if even friends going the nuclear option and sending her to a mental facility hasn't worked, a couple random strangers can't do shit. this woman clearly doesn't want help.
I believe every word of that letter. And I'm sorry but her Mom is to blame for a lot of it. Yes, Eugenia is an adult & should take responsibility for her actions, but if you have a demented mother raising you & isolating you then you may not know everything you're doing is wrong. Eugenia is beyond ruined and it's sad..
People who self harm like this can be court ordered to be under the care of a treatment facility. This was done to Bam Margera for substance abuse. If someone (it doesn't have to be family) files for guardianship over her the court will be obligated to send a special investigator to interview her. They will assess her current health and mental state. If she is deemed incapable of caring for herself (and she will be) she will be forced into a hospital to save her life.
She was sent to a mental institution via a 5150. There was also law passed some time ago that if someone's bmi is under a certain amount they are deemed mentally unable to make their own decisions health wise. 🤍
@@BrittanyStewart-ni4sc when I hit 95 pounds my Dr told me that if I hit 85 I will no longer be able to make any medical choices for my self she's gonna step in and over power what I want. Which ment she was gonna put me in the hospital weather I wanted to or not. That's what should've happened with this lady because she's in too deep.
@@SpicyLizard-Technically if she can still do her everyday routine she's not mentally unable and that's where they lock that at. It's when you do not have the energy to even get up is when they become mentally unable. I no this for a fact. Also depends what kind of anorexia she has. It's not all the same. To me she has anorexia nervosa which Is a psychological issue and needs help immediately I no I have been dealing with this issue for years It's a chemical imbalance in the brain and can be treated if the right thing is done
I wanna say as disclaimer, i don’t normally bat for eugenia and disagree with 90% of what she does online -Whether this is true or not, legal or not- treatment is hard for most and if she wasn’t perfectly cooperative like many can be then why publish this? I think it’s so messed up and it’s one thing to socialize among friends but to blast someone in treatment? It doesn’t matter if it’s forced or not.. ethically, this is fucked up to put this out for the entire world to see. And to criticize her appearance is wholly unnecessary and should have been left out like fr for an ED place smh Lastly- Eugenia blasted the state run facility or mental hospital where they drop most 5150 then she was transferred to a specific ED facility which she had almost nothing but good things to say about so that right there is in an invalid part of the story. Btw- state run facilities are infamous for abuse of patients and you can go look that shit up yourself. As for staff being unable to handle her- yeah that’s not how it works. In almost any facility regardless of age and do not let anyone tell you otherwise- a relative or spouse can pull you out at any time. Her mother was actively trying to get her out and most places don’t try to enforce past 48-72h for initial evaluations. This is from someone who has had majority of her friends and family work in healthcare or volunteer at these facilities. I also do not agree with Eugenia not needing treatment but at the same time- I realized after watching her for about a decade on the sideline form learning about onision therein, learning of her - I do not at all give a fuck if she gets better anymore. When you see all the comments taking about their experiences and how she’s their inspo is horrific!!!! These companies are making money off this whole situation and i guarantee she would not be milking this if she didn’t have an audience. Her weapon is the fanbase that enables her bs and she doesnt deserve an online presence. Fact: Her infamy online perpetuates her ED! Her entire family should be investigated but regardless- I care way more about who she influences and her online presence than whether or not this girl gets adequate health treatment. The amount of people she is harming and affecting through a disease literally cause by influence of pro ana bs?! These companies don’t give a fuck and just wanna roll in the $$. It reminds me of family channels or other creepy channels gettin paid. What I worry about the most in this whole situation is that Eugenia and her mom are setting a precedent. She will %100 be replaced when she’s gone by other ED influencers and how many more will be influenced by this bs? It was once underground to find pro ED content but now profit over anything and everything so this is alive and well in a simple search box. Her content even appears on kids YT because she constantly caters to kids content! This isn’t a typical ED scenario either- she is totally aware of what she is doing and how profitable it is. This shouldn’t be the norm- this content shouldn’t be accessible for anyone including Eugenia herself. If you want her to stay online pushing ED content then you are an asshole who is not thinking of anyone she influences.
@@Peachyy87 Again with the "sharing'" word. It is betrayal to discuss any info about fellow clients, inmates, patients, etc. from detox centers, mental health centers, AA programs, eating disorder clinics, etc. To disclose info about others whom you have been in treatment with is breaking human boundaries. In defense of all p
@@lizking385 Yes you are right about that, however the person that shared this is/was a fellow patient. If it were her doctor that shared this I would also be quite shocked.
This is purely my opinion, you do not have to agree but please be kind with your words of you wish to repond. Thank you. I believe she acted these ways and agree it's not okay to treat other patients and staff that way. BUT I wish that people would try to step into euginias shoes for a moment and have a little bit of compassion. If I remember correctly, when she was sectioned, euginia believed she was fine (and this was constantly reinforced by some viewers saying she looked great), and felt she'd been betrayed by her friends who got her sectioned. Thus, she probably felt like she was being held prisoner in a place with all these mentally ill people, even though she was fine. Plus, the feeding tube likely took away the one thing that made her feel any sort of control (eating/not eating). She was then forced to eat and gain weight, likely causing am influx of aweful thoughts about herself (e.g.,. Feeling like a failiure or disgusting for gaining weight). Considering all of that, it is understandable that she did not cooperate well and caused havoc. And as I said, that doesn't mean it's fine she was disrespectful to staff etc, but I do think that judging her character, based on her behaviour during this extremely difficult period of her being so unwell is unfair. In my opinion, no one's character should be based on thier behaviour during a mental health crisis. I have many more opinions relating to euginias and her content but I wanted to make this comment purely about this video and the email it describes and why I personally think it's an unfair video to have on the internet for all to see.
Ah yes, "compassion" for Ewwie. Yes, let's talk about compassion shall we ? Where was her compassion for the aunt of a girl who confronted Ewwie during a live that her niece had passed because the girl believed Ewwie's lies ? Ewwie laughed in her face. Where was/is her compassion for the children who were screaming about Ewwie's paying, convicted p3d0s and ana fetishists were creeping on them? She caters to pervs and directs her content at kids, do the math. Her compassion for them was telling her mods to silence any child who spoke up about it as well as any adult on their behalf while she made the pervs vips. All confirmed by a former long time mod, a licensed psychologist whose position was confirmed by all of the other mods. Again, how about her non existent compassion for the children she habitually flashed on TT enough to get her age restricted ? Not to mention the constant flashing on Twitch prior to that ? It's not an "accident" when it happens 100 times. Where was her compassion for everyone else in the clinic ?(supposedly) So, you'll have to excuse all of us who know the truth if we don't have sympathy and compassion for the child grooming, ED glamorizing, p3d0 catering trash.
@rachelrae860 😊🤍ty. Notice they never have anything to say after they are schooled ? And they NEVER go to Ewwie with the same finger pointing energy and say anything to her about her behavior. They all of a sudden have no opinion which proves they aren't speaking of what they think is right and wrong, it's that they want to only defend the wombat
This probably true then again I really don’t know if it matters that much rn in 2024 bringing up how she was acting horribly in a facility (as one of the sickest people in there) years prior. idk just feels like a very personal experience to share and there’s not much really to say or do about it atp either.
@@SpicyLizard- all she said was “this is alleged, do with this info what you will” just don’t see what we should do with some anonymous statement about how she was being rude in a treatment facility like 10 yrs ago. Also people always say stuff like “she let her mask slip she’s not that nice all the time deep down she’s a horrible person” she’s probably just a person clearly with mental health issues and no it’s not an excuse but seems wierd for people to talk about this like they were there and knew what she was feeling or going through mentally. Everyone’s experiences with mental health are different and what are we supposed to do with this info fr.
You know, this person posted this on her page and she took it down cuz she was getting SO much backlash for it. God, people really suck. ☹️😒🙄👎 Why can't people understand that she is just trying to open people's eyes to the truth and that she isn't trying to start drama and lie? I mean, WTF is wrong with people? Why do people have to be so butthurt by everything all the time? It's WAY beyond ridiculous. Jesus Christ. Just makes me loathe humanity more and more. 😡👎 Except people like you, of course. God bless people like you and this wonderful lady who was brave enough to speak out. 😇🙏 Love you, girl. 😊♥️😍🥰🤗😘😘
Thank you sweetie. Got so many people coming at me like I wrote the letter. Bunch of m0rons😂 not to mention all the triggered enablers, white knights, virtue signalers and self proclaimed experts. 😂 Much love ! 🤍
@@lll9409first off, as I stated in the description this is not my video. Secondly, nobody shared health records lol she shared the interactions and observations and she's allowed to do so. The original poster said "supposedly" if you listen so deal with it.😏 Everyone knows what Ewwie's "reputation" is 😂
@lll9409 it was the girl in the vid who originally had it posted and the only reason she removed it was because she didn't want to deal with imbeciles such as yourself. 😂 It hardly goes against any "category." No worries, wouldn't travel to your egg fart of a country 😂
I believe this 100% im sorry but her im a sweet little angel act is bullshit and i see threw masks easily. She needs removed from social media and stay gone till she gets actual help and not be a terror to staff and others.
I was inclined to believe this story however I don’t know if I believe that her hair was short and that she has extensions. I’ve noticed in the past few years it appears that Eugenia has a lot of grey hairs. You can see the grey hairs in the longer parts of her hair too. Plus, in the last couple of years her hair doesn’t look healthy. I feel like if they were extensions they wouldn’t have grey hairs in them…..
Youre making it harder for her to get help. Why would ANYONE get help when people like you only do things like this... NONE OF THAT is anyone business... If its real, the person who write that... Needs to cut it out. I. So tired of people complaining about other when they clearly have issues kf their own to worry about. This makes me sick. Youre wrong for sharing this and who ever wrote that needa to shit up. Her true colors??? Sounds like a girl who needs lots of help! I know that people who are so pathetic and aay fucked up mean shit dont want to let anyone know their name. Well, my name is mary come at me...
😂 Cry louder enabler. You're such a hypocrite. "Tired of people complaining about others" but here you are complaining. The rest of us have zero respect for those who support this child grooming, habitual child flashing, age restricted on TT, pedo and ana fetishist catering Ed glamorizing trash. You've got no argument strawman.
It’s interesting because she has always acted like this way. We just never got to see that full side of her tho. But yea it doesn’t surprise me of who she really is as a person since I’ve met multiple females who have issues in general. But yea… I feel bad for her. But there is not much we can do.🖤🖤
Lol many🤍 females have issues yes 😂 so do guys but still, I agree. Don't feel bad for anyone who habitually flashed children for over a year and endangers children's innocence by aiming content at them while keeping close company with p3d0s. Feel bad for her victims, especially the ones in the ground because they believed her lies 💔. Great propic BTW
Take control from a narcissist and what they really are emerges quickly. No strength to throw anything? Seriously? She's in worse condition now than when she was 5150 and she has the strength to go to Disneyland but you think she didn't have the strength to throw something?
she definitely had the strength to throw things especially while actually in recover actually getting better. she has been seen on footage picking up things that are light to healthy people but heavy for her condition. she absolutely has a way to throw handheld stuff and the like.
@@brendamertes9472 also, don't forget before she went to TT she was dancing almost every night for her perverts for hours and flashing kids while she did it.
I thought this person email would be trolling, She sleeps on her pink sofa so wouldn't know how to make a bed that is true no eye contact interesting. Ive long thought she is on the spectrum. She is still being teased online for wearing the same quotes "tackty cheep dress to events" when she has all this choice and her obsession with JS, As a Mum of of 3 kids with asd Im pretty sure she has Asd eating disorders are more common in girls with it too. Makes me sad seeing her being trolled as she believes the comments too.
@SpicyLizard- I've seen her old videos where she approaches random people for reactions etc. Its just my view I've got 20 years of learning on it. I can see she's having cognitive issues due to her illness more and more it's sad.
@gemmaholley6017 then you've seen she has no trouble making and maintaining eye contact. Also that isn't a blanket issue for those in the spectrum. What's sad is she glamorizes her ed as she aims her content at kids then habitually flashes them. What's sad is she is a predator. What's sad is she caters to convicted p3d0s and ana fetishists. What's sad is she has used them for mods. Are you aware of the fact that she told her mods to silence any child or adult who spoke up on their behalf that the old p3rvs were creeping on them ? Are you aware this was confirmed by a long time mod who quit because of what was going on who is a licensed Psychologist and her position was verified by the other mods? Many kids stepped forward about the grooming that goes on in her community. The p3dos are even mentioned on her wiki page. She knows what she's doing, she's no victim nor an innocent.
For the ppl complaining abt why she's releasing personal information about EC etc. Like please shut the hell up because honestly does EC really cares about privacy?. That selfish brat is HUNGRY for attention since DAY ONE and already exposing her ED in public platforms that unfortunately influence minors as well. She's like her mother, ACTING innocent but deep inside MEAN. Gurl I'm SO sorry you have to deal with that and all the staffs. And no surprise she has short hair, she's loosing hair.
The bit about her hair being so much shorter has me shook! Wait, what?!? I get if she looked different w no makeup - but the hair thing is sticking out to me.
Momster sucks for enabling her, for filming up her skirt for her ana pervs etc. With Ewwie being a complete narcissist I'm surprised she hasn't booted her from the house yet. They are both a disaster.🤍
If I caught someone even "allegedly" talking about the way I acted in rehab, I'd be very upset. If you haven't been, even if you had...regardless you don't talk about another's experience by NAME. You can't.
@@SpicyLizard- it's just nice that people don't. Yes we all know she's has as ED, but if someone told people how I acted during rehab...I'd be completely embarrassed. It's like alcohol anonymous. It's anonymous. Id love to say the incredible people I went to rehab with, but due to rules we could not mention other members names and problems. For Example: I can talk about the person who I went with who won a Nobel prize.
@katdujka4760 you know what would be really nice ? It would be nice if Ewwie didn't flash kids habitually to the point of being age restricted on TT. It would also be nice if she didn't cater to paying convicted p3d05 and ana fetishists while directly aiming her content at kids. It would also be nice if she hadn't laughed in the face of an aunt who confronted her about her niece's passing because the girl believed Ewwies lies. So, do you still want to talk about morals, common courtesy and basic human decency ? Have you said a single word to Ewwie about any of what she has done ? Have you spoken up just once on behalf of the children she poisons daily with her lies or are you here only to play white knight ?
This sounds like a very accurate portrayal of EC...not personally knowing her of course but seems a legit persona compared to her portrayal on line. In other words, I can see it being 💯 true. Allegedly, of course.
I remember the occasional person like this would come in during in patient ED treatment. Exactly like this, except the staff would all know them well because they would be in and out for years. It wouldnt suprise me if this was true with EC.
Wait.... "Very short hair and very little makeup". She's never had short hair, her hair was never a wig or extensions. And you are allowed to have your makeup in ED treatment centers. I KNOW damned well she either took it to begin with or had her mom bring it in. I'm just not buying this.
@konniacosta5613 she did, she had very short bangs and the sides were short when she came back, go look. As for wig or extensions, this vid proves you wrong ua-cam.com/video/fHQC6Wiap4M/v-deo.htmlsi=CJPR5VZc5LRkdgNO All centers have different rules so you don't "know" what you think you do.
I get it. Everyone is fake and they only like you when you’re a certain way. It’s taxing, you want to die every day and she’s probably hoping one day soon she does. I’m sure she hates people. I’m kind of there myself.
Great, now famous ppl will not going to want to try treatment because fellow residents won’t keep confidentiality. She should have made them write an NDA
@ArizonaBulgaria oh great now nobody will want to go because they have to put up with a bunch of ill mannered, selfish, self entitled a holes who think they're too good to treat others with some common decency. 🙄 Ewwie doesn't make the rules. Go sit down.
I actually think this is 100% true. Her development is stuck at the age of 7
🤍I believe it as well but nah, that's an act for her paying p3dos. Even 7-year-olds will know where to direct their anger.
I wish I had half ya'lls commitment. I need to be "2 steps ahead"
@@SpicyLizard-whaaaaaat..?
@Arcadi4.44 I said her anger was misguided. On top of it she went willingly. Even a child knows how to properly direct their anger. Or are you asking about the p3d0 part?
Eating disorders stunt your growth and ends up becoming a demon you have to fight everyday
I was doubting the letters authenticity until I heard, "she didn't make the bed because she didn't know how"...knowing that Eugenia doesn't know how to boil water or blow up a beach ball, the statement sounds true.
I'm wondering if she has some form of autism. She misses social cues, has no clue how to do simple things, acts strangely in public, and that's just a few things. Just my opinion
And doesn’t know how to spray on sun screen lol
She didn’t even know how to crack an egg
@@madiArabellatbh I never cracked an egg till I was 19. I don’t like eggs, plus my parents like cooking so I never needed to learn I guess. Then one day I volunteered at a school event. Our tent was making some kinda food from Spain. I forget. I got the egg cracking job. First egg, I took it and just slammed that shit on the table and it shattered 😂 after that I was off the egg job.
@@KimiikoZ not the sameeeee her situation is so different and she’s like 30 or almost 30
How can it violate HIPPA. Another patient can talk about what happened. Its only the doctors who can't
Bingo! TY
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Usually they sign consent to keep information about other patients in confidence.
It’s all healthcare staff, not just doctors. Nurses , Lon’s, dieticians, nutritionists, social worker, aides, reception staff and even janatorisl staff
LPN’s
Eugenia never was a “sweet” person. she had a lot of sass even when she wasn’t malnourished and insane because of the constant hunger. so it’s not that hard to believe that she was throwing tantrums.
That's unreasonable. Being Quasi Recovered makes ypu hungrier than when you're sicker. When you're sicker your brain stops sending signals to your body that you're hungry because you aren't eating either way. If you're partially recovered, those pangs come back. It's even worse when you had that done to you against your will.
She likes total control...@@BoulionCandy-qx2ct
@Hiforest She certainly shows the audience she can make $$$$ off the fetish of eating disorders
@@HiforestThere’s no hate, it’s called accountability. She’s a fully grown adult, not an invalid child. She is responsible for herself. I’m tired of y’all giving excuses for everything and wondering why people act out.
An ED is not an excuse for anything, and it’s not a mental disease like schizophrenia. Sorry but it’s not. Plenty of us have mental disorders, it doesn’t mean you get to be a pain in the rear. Stop this. You’re just hurting people, not helping.
@@Hiforest are you actually serious????? You're comparing cancer to anorexia? SERIOUSLY????? People cant bring on cancer themselves, your comparison is sickening and it disgusts me!!! It's obvious you are clueless about the two and shouldn't be talking about something you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT!!!
Here’s my theory based on all I know and my life experiences.
Eugenia is also autistic, like her brother. But she has lower support needs (in autism terms). That said, her parents (mostly mom) want to keep their babies dependent forever for cash. I see different levels of this in special ed. The way parents do this is by spoiling her rotten and never teaching her any basic life skills. Some will even reward helpless or bad behavior, because it shows the world that the child is incapable of caring for themselves and needs that carer to take the checks. Note: I don’t think it’s munchausens by proxy. I think it’s money. The reason is because many munchausens moms want to be seen as a heroic mother. Eugenia’s mother is just erratic and dismissive of her daughter on camera.
Eugenia started posting videos on her own based on the clips I’ve seen of early content. But when she began to gain a following, her parents took control of the channel to make sure she still looked like a child to the public and to get more money. You can see the videos over the years escalate from Eugenia having fun, to Eugenia showing off her illness, to anxiety bating with weird details that mom definitely saw posted. I think we see what mom wants us to see.
Now, that starting of the initial channel was clearly a common teen way of making her own identity at the time. When that didn’t work, along with other off-camera ideas to gain control, the ED started. ED behavior is often taught to child actors to stay childlike, so I’m assuming mom either already showed her bad habits to stay young looking or at least won’t force treatment for this reason. Plus, sick=easy to control. When her friends got her treatment, Eugenia is said to have panicked, saying her mom’s heart would give out. And her driver and mother were angry to the friends. The mother has a financial incentive to keep her daughter sick.
In treatment was probably the first time Eugenia had to do anything as an adult. Even in that restrictive environment, she was unable to keep up. And her means of coping was taken away. Having never experienced this, she melted down repeatedly, a combo of autism and spoil. For them to release her back to mom, she probably got love bombed into that transition. Especially since I’m sure she’s more restricted in freedom than ever so that she isn’t re-admitted.
Treatment didn’t work, because they need to treat her like she’s 4 and work their way up. And no ED clinic is prepped for a 30yr old toddler with a rich, Karen mom.
What is the point. She did not go to get treatment. She was forced into it. I would be very unpleasant if that was done to me. Please don't misunderstand me. She needs ED treatment. However, nobody should be surprised that she was angry and not cooperating. You can't make someone take help if they don't want it.
There is no excuse for taking it out on staff who were just doing their job, let alone others who were there innocently trying to recover. Stop excusing her bad behavior. Boo hoo she didn't want to be there. So what ? How was that any of their fault ? Her behavior was inexcusable. (Allegedly) 🙄
@@SpicyLizard- Maybe she was acting poorely for the same reason she was in a ward to begin with. Could it be she has mental issues? idk man beats me.
She voluntarily went to ed treatment. It was secondary. She was 5150 to a psych ward where they suggested she go into treatment for her ed. So, again, no excuses.
@SpicyLizard- I agree. I really dont understand the comments made in her defense. I was put into treatment against my will by my father, whom I didn't have a relationship with at the time. I was using heroin and on the brink of death. I was absolutely pissed when my father reached out to my judge and had me court mandated. I won't lie, I went in there very angry. I wasn't an idiot and I knew I needed help and was in a bad way. I didn't take it out on staff or other patients. I put my head down, did my time, and actually listened at times. I was young, too. The way she probably acted is just inexcusable.
@ladykupo everything you were going through and you still had common courtesy towards others. I hope you're doing great now. 🤍 Some people will excuse anything she says or does, it's sickening that they think she should never be held accountable for anything she says or does.
If EC didn’t monetise her ED, I would prob think this was in bad taste. But for some reason, UA-cam allows her to influence lots of young men and women for cash. I have no doubt she's a mean-spirited princess.
We've seen her past and present, we know she is. 🤍
@@Flowervibes101 you're delusional
You also mean kids
@@rynfornow3411 she's definitely a bad influence on kids and she aims her content straight at them.
@@SpicyLizard- and how suspicious that once she was age restricted she started wearing clothes again.
I wish more people were aware of this side.
Yes !👍 🤍
shouldn't be surprised... she was forced there, she doesn't want to get better like the other people that were there
@kite6864 no, she said she went willingly. It was the mental hospital she didn't want to go to. But exactly, she doesn’t want to recover. 🤍
@@kit.e6864 she never hit the rock bottom yet.
@@SpicyLizard-as if that means anything. That's what really sick people tell themselves because it makes it seem that they could get better if they wanted to...they just don't want to.
wanting to get better is not really a choice. if you are rock bottom in to an eating disorder, you get in this weird delusional state, that is not comparable to anything else .
@nicknamess232 of course it's a choice. No one can do it for you.
Had very short hair? So she does have extensions...
Has had them for a long time. We've all seen her bald patches countless times as well as wig lace etc. 🤍
@@SpicyLizard- oh, I've never seen the lace. I've seen the bald patches, and her tug at her hair. I don't know anything about extension though. How can we not see them with how thin her hair is?
I'll post something maybe tomorrow showing it all 🤍@@christycipriano261
@@SpicyLizard-yes please do!
@@SpicyLizard-😂. I'm sorry I had to laugh
Honestly, i actually believe this. Ive called her out on her ways and the way she talks and acts many times on here and insta, i always tell them to go and watch certain videos and old videos off her and the famous skinny mini video, i explain what she does, her mum does and everything; doesn't take long for them to see it too.
I believe all of this, she is not innocent and she doesn't care. and i feel awful for everyone around her and i hate the fact some people use her but also, its what she gets when she doesn't listen to anyone. she isn't dumb etc, she plays it. Its such a shame
She's definitely no innocent. 🤍
As someone who’s been forced into residential treatment, it’s a very traumatic experience. If you don’t think you need help and don’t want to be there, this can make it worse. Im embarrassed to admit I had several outbursts of anger during my treatment. I would really hate for a fellow patient to anonymously put me on blast when I was there because I needed help.
It seems very reasonable there would be outbursts considering it's against your will. Even if it wasn't. I dont think most would hold that against you or her but how you behave in between the breakdowns would make a huge difference. If this is true it sounds like it was an every day thing with no good behavior in between..
@@elizabethg-rj5tg this because I felt excluded and it took my buddy 2 months to help me out, I called her out for her bad behaviour, treatment that was clique but putting me under the radar and refuse dbt even when I asked and explained I have no idea how to deal with these emotions I broke down so much and felt really excluded which brings up my trauma abd embarrassed to say I lashed out only because of the fact I was feeling to excluded and it's cliquey and the fact I had no idea I even had adhd so with those issues treatment couldn't help me, I had to help my own self which I did. So glad I got out, it was very bad coming to residential treatment because I had Undiagnosed adhd I got told to shut up by someone in treatment and bullied I broke down to staff saying I didn't feel safe and that this certain individual was bullying me, I was glad another girl stuck up for me then another and yes the bullying did stop after she got used to me, I swear staff should have kicked her out fast because what if I didn't want to leave my room? I used to do that because of trauma.
@@galilaya42 I experienced a " dark" side too during anorexia and anorexia recovery. it was a state that would make me want to hurt and destroy. I imagine you could compare it to a werewolf frenzy.
it would happen everyday, sometimes multiple times a day, just every time something negative came up. so you see; it was kinda a permanent personality, people around me experienced. Even when I was calm, people would mistake it for manipulation, because I would go off like a bomb just seconds later.
I remember I really wanted to stop upsetting others and myself, but in the moments I just could not stop. I harmed myself instead of others, just started running until calming down or destroyed my own stuff to deal with the anger and energy, especially at school, but i just could not snap out of it.
I think people don't really ever understood how little choice I had in my own bad behavior. I sympathize with the Eugenia from this story, just because there is a change she might have been through the same as me.
I understand that exposing patient’s information is not an ethical thing to do, whether it is a healthcare provider or another patient. However, I also get where this girl comes from, she saw her and her friends treatments at risk in a way, by having to share a space with someone so problematic. Particularly for this girl’s friend who shared a room with Eugenia. Everyone was struggling with their own ED and at the same time had to deal with the the trauma of their internment, not necessarily because the staff were bad or anything, but because they were forced into a foreign environment and out of their comfort zone, while also paying their money and expecting the best results. It’s a very delicate situation.
Parents and beneficiary will also call in and lodge complaints when their child or loved ones treatment is being disrupted by a patient whose this non compliant.
I know things. I've worked on psych wards with ED patients
If someone is unhappy with a fellow patient, they report it to the program directors and people in charge at the facility. They have no right to send a letter revealing private medical info (including naming a person receiving treatment) to some tiktoker or youtuber. Give me a break.
This is not exposing her medical records, but her behaviour. The only thing that she wrote concerning Eugenia's medical treatmet that shoud stay private is the feeding tube.
@lisa2000geese everything is different for online public figures who put their REAL LIFE AS A DIARY online. Then add they use their disease to garner attention. They monetize a deadly illness as a CAREER choice
and model it to minors while spending 24/7 INFLUENCING then with every aspect t of their REAL LIFE
If she was an actor and playing a character. I could disagree with you, but influencers make up people UA-camrs who play themselves and tell everyone everything about their lives And then we find out that they're all lies that hurt. Innocent people are absolutely susceptible. To people telling the truth in order to dispel the DANGEROUS lie. There are even times when an NDA loses its legal coverage. The hippa guarantee of patient privacy is between the facility Or clinician and the patient. It has nothing to do with other patients who may have witnessed something while in treatment at the same time... That's a muddy line that we do not have defined in the law. The wotn3ss is not exposing data from.a private medical chart.. shes just a witness fellow patient.
@SpecialBlanket except. No. The ones who go to extreme levels of disruption defiance and violent outbursts and Sick manipulations in the face of people who are trained to deal with the worst of it are beyond. What we're used to seeing in treatment. I say this as someone who's worked with patients for 13 years with these same disorders.. No one ever said any of them want to be there, but when you're part of a group or a society, if you are so self-centered and focused on your deviance that you don't care who you hurt with it, you are sicker than the sick as person there and that's. Just the truth, we do remove these people and we do reject them from treatment. And we do mark their charts as untreatable in a congregate setting g. Thar means no ine is safe around them and thay can onmy be treated in isolation..
Sorry but no
I honestly believe this. I’ve seen somewhere she was a bully and god awful in school then would pull the whole “they’re mean to me” thing.
💯 She even made vids mocking her own grandma. Also threatened a kid to "R" them with a mayo covered dild0 and called another child's mom and said she was preg from her son. She loves to play victim. 🤍
@@SpicyLizard- yuuuup I clocked that a lot. Especially with all her “accidental” flashing and the fake voice. I’m happy you’re healing and doing well ✨
@@SpicyLizard-wtf who Eugenia?? Where the hell did you hear that??
@Ghoulx13 hear it ? No, I watched it. Here is one, lemme find the other. It may have been removed from UA-cam, you might have to find it on Reddit but I'll look.
ua-cam.com/video/XeMfucD6Wcc/v-deo.htmlsi=6O7yObmMnf-TsXzW
@Ghoulx13 Yeah, it's posted on Reddit, it might still be on her UA-cam channel as well but i'm not gonna look through everything there.
I believe it. I was there during her time on UA-cam when she looked somewhat healthier and non skeletal. She used to post racist stereotype videos and she would often have no problem speaking in her “deeper voice” either especially during her YouNow days.
It's too bad not everyone knows what she really is. 🤍
Even knowing this now and being a little surpised, I still feel bad. Mental health is not easy to deal with. I, myself, might be problematic sometimes due to trauma. I give Eugenia the same amount of empathy if not more. It's very easy to make someone out to be a bad person when you yourself aren't sure if you're also bad. I pray everyday I might see some evidence of her getting better
Ewwie will never recover, it stems from her narcisisism and before your heart breaks for her, know she caters to p3d0s and ana fetishist. That she glamorizes her ed as she aims her content at kids. She allows old men in her community to creep on the kids and silences the children when they speak up. She has even used convicted p3d0s as mods. She habitually flashed the kids in her community at least once a week for over a year on Twitch. I could go on and on. If you're going to have pity, have it for her victims.There are people in the ground because of her lies. Be well. 🤍
I am GENUINELY amazed and shocked that in September 2024 is still alive.
I can see she's so fake. Thank you for coming forward with these truths.
Seems she made a deal with the devil. We're all thankful to the girl who wrote the letter and for Tenderslug who did the original post. 🤍
Perhaps maybe we shouldn't keep pushing her to heal. Let the lord do his job. Bless the other women who have worked hard to heal.
I just prayed for her! I PRAYED HARD. ONLY THE BLOOD OF CHRIST CAN CAST OUT THE EVIL SPIRIT THAT PLAGUES HER MIND AND BODY.
that’s fucked up
@@lyss7919then why hasn’t he done it already? Like 10 years ago?
tell him to speed it up then because clearly that's not helping
Ain't no hate quite like Christian love, huh.
She is attention seeking and bad person but still some people refuse to see for who she really is. She plays the victim card very well
She plays the victim very badly. But her followers are kids. I have no idea how the parents of these kids even allow them to send stranger on TikTok money. What do they get out of it??? Why do people send these idiots money on TikTok I don’t understand!!!! If a stranger asked me to send them money online I would laugh and block them lol
It's the only thing she knows how to do.
She is the fakest person on utube and that is saying A LOT.
Preach ! 🤍
Eugenia is so spoiled. The sweet act she does for the camera is a big lie. She is an actress. And when you see her on camera, acting all nice and innocent, it's just fake. Eugenia can be mean. She has a dark side. She can be manipulative. She has no interest in fighting her ed. She glorifies it, disrespecting people who struggle in private. She was never doing well in recovery because she does not want to get better. It's terrible she was so disruptive. I get anorexia treatment is difficult, but she truly had no interest in being there. She couldn't even try to be civil to others. I got really scared in anorexia treatment too, but the other girls were so friendly to me and I eventually got less scared and started eating. I liked talking to others who were going through anorexia, because it made me feel less alone. Eugenia doesn't sound like she wants to make genuine friends with people. it is in times like that where you need emotional support and understanding. She pushed it away. Eugenia didn't sound truly anxious or afraid in there. She sounded like she did not want to even be peaceful around others or try to do better. Anxiety is one thing. If you are truly rude and disruptive to others, that is something the person needs to deal with
You're not alone sweetie. 🤗 How anyone can fall for her act when it's so obvious I'll never know. I knew immediately what she was. She'll never recover, she knows she's nothing without her ed, it's all she is and it will take her. 🤍
@@SpicyLizard- Thank you. So true. I don't think she will get better at this point.
@ashleyphillips5477 😊 I knew she never would. You, you'll get there, keep taking those baby steps hon.🤍
@@SpicyLizard- Thank you. I appreciate the support
@ashleyphillips5477 we're here for you sweetie ! 🤍
Not one second would I even question that email. I 100% believe that is very true. I'll have to go back to a video that all of you have seen .Oh Lordy it's Jordy did a reactionary video of her and her mother at Disneyland in Orlando, FL. I will tag the time in which she does exactly what the girl who was at the same treatment center as Eugenia. It mirrors this girl's allegations . I only say that because not one person brought up this moment that Eugenia doing in the video. Not even Jordy caught it. I've always known deep down that Eugenia is the terror in that household and is the one who keeps everyone hostage with her illness. I honestly believe to this day her family gave up on her in the sense of getting her professional help because of these outburst. Where they went wrong is not holding her accountable. Instead they did the opposite, gave her what she wants to shut her and tune out the monster btw the walls. I'll be back with that tag. Shortly. Thanks for uploading the truth .
I believe it 💯 and I couldn't agree more ! She's a manipulative narcissist and momster does her bidding. She is no innocent. Not saying momster is either and it is on her for not booting her out a long time ago and for catering to her. I'm really interested in seeing what you saw on the Disney vid ! 🤍
@@SpicyLizard- Oh and another reason why I believe this girl's chain of events. As soon as she mentioned Eugenia needed to be in an isolation room. I was like boom. For those that don't know what an isolation room is let me break it down.I've had to do this with some of my patients. An Isolation room when inside all you have is your bed if you're not harming yourself and, if you're not using your bed as property destruction. Sometimes your mattress is on the floor no bed frame.
in the bathroom the shower curtain is removed there is plexiglass over the tv if there is one in the room (No cords ). It's for safety reasons so that the patient doesn't do property destruction or for those who have intermittent Explosion disorder, self harming. covers for plug in sockets are removed. Toiletry... Toilet paper dispenser the rod that goes through it is removed or staff has to give them the toilet paper. One so they don't use it as weapon the other some patients clog the toilet and sink so then there is flooding issues. Also in isolation sometimes a code grey is necessary and that is when restraints have to be used in case the patient becomes combative. An isolation is also to keep other patients/staff safe when a patient becomes verbally abusive and makes threats. It's also used for de-escalation for the patient.
@@VALERIEE9999I appreciate your expertise in this sweetie ! I haven't seen the tag yet..?
@@SpicyLizard- Yes I'll try and tag it tonight. I went on his page and he has a lot of videos and I have to sort it out at around a year ago when he first started talking about her. He's got several Disney ones. It's gonna take a moment . I have to catch some zzz'z rn I gotta work tonight. I'll post the title of the video and tag it at. work on my break tonight late. You guys will be asleep but you. should see it when you have a moment tomorrow
@@VALERIEE9999take your time sweetie and I appreciate it ! Sweet dreams ! 😊🤍
I don't blame Eugenia to he honest. Involuntary psych holds aren't something people want. They are horrible
@user-qu9yx8nq1h Why can't you blame her for treating innocent people like crap ? The staff is there to help and the others were there innocently trying to recover. No one there had anything to do with her being there and they deserved none of her attitude. She's old enough not to be misguiding her anger. Stop making excuses for her.
@Flowervibes101 who ? Ewwie or the girl ?
@@CATSWITHKYLA u didn't get shid deleted ditchpeig🤣
@@SpicyLizard- Ewe McStinky is back😹 she wish’s she did that but she didn’t what she needs to do is clean her house and get rid of all those nasty P stains on her bed & furniture instead of wasting time talking nonsense Can you imagine the Stench in her Dirty nasty house 👃🏻
@@Jadedness🤍those poor cats having to live in that hoarded stench, shame on that 🐝 y0tch
It sounds valid. I don’t judge it too much because Eugenia is clearly developmentally delayed and in denial of her illness. People often have a rough go the first time in treatment, especially if they’re in denial. I saw plenty of people like this when I was impatient a few times. Still, it’s interestinghow her defense mechanisms throughout clause when she felt threatens and start contrast to how she presents herself on UA-cam
Seems pretty detailed to not be the truth. I could see it.
Wow, the very short hair even in 2019.
I don't doubt this anonymous person in the least. It's bound to happen sooner or later that people start coming forward about her.
Right ? Nobody would bother making this up and contact someone else to post it. If it were for spite it would be a lot worse and she has been bald a long time. 🤍
@wvgirl7264 I don't doubt her either. Like I said, if it was for spite, it would have been way worse than this. 🤍
@@SpicyLizard- exactly my thoughts about it.
@@SpicyLizard- I agree!!
she needs to stay in there till she puts on 30-40 pds
If she puts on that much she would die
@@AlyssaHenson-z6z why?
@@carrieconner2021 her heart would give out, same thing happened to Karen Carpenter look up her story
I was an entitled, miserable brat when I had anorexia. I would suck all the air out of the room and a chore to be around for most people. Of course, those who didn't understand the disorder were very hurtful, but I certainly didn't help myself from ridicule either. The disorder eats your mind and all your reason. It makes you self-absorbed to ungodly level. I know she has also been coddled her whole life, so I can imagine it was even worse, but yeah anorexia is not glamorous or beautiful. It's painful and soulless.
There's something I truly don't understand and I don't know if the answer is that we're simply built different or something... I never had anorexia, but I was underweight when I was like 11-13, not because I refused to eat though. I went to the doctor because I was often (every day actually) dizzy and weak, so I just don't understand how people with anorexia like Eugenia (who are way thinner than I ever was and are eating improperly) can have the energy to do anything and how she can stream without fainting. It's not meant to be a rude question, I'm simply curious and amazed at how strong she seems considering her weight.
@@Carolina-ql1knShe likes the way she looks. That's her determination is basically that made her want to live for achieving her looks like that. She can't be without her phone since she wants to be in live with her audience to show her favourite body which is this.
@7SBeatsMM7 I agree with that. A huge drive through dopamine or adrenaline can keep you alive and energetic for a long time. I drank pots of coffee and diet coke to stay up and feel normal. In reality, I was an anxious wreck. The slightest inconvenience, especially around food or exercise could set me off.
All you have to do is eat
There's a ton of anorexia patients (far into the illness where it is definitely eating their brain) who are very sweet people. It's not an excuse for being an asshole
For everyone coming on here to cry about "HIPAA" read this first. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE PATIENTS
From the National Library of Medicine. National Center For Biotechnology Information it states : To Whom Does HIPAA Apply?
HIPAA applies to all healthcare institutions and healthcare workers, who submit claims electronically. For example, if you are a healthcare worker and transmit or even discuss PHI with others who are not involved with that patient's care, then you violate HIPAA. However, there is a HIPAA rule that permits disclosure of PHI without prior obtained consent for healthcare operations, treatment, and payment. This includes consultation between providers regarding a patient, referring a patient, and information required by law for public health safety and reporting. These exceptions cover the majority of clinical uses of PHI. Other disclosures demand explicit patient consent and apply to everyone in a healthcare facility, including:
Providers
Nurses
Pharmacists
Administrative personnel
Foodservice
Clerical
Janitorial service
All other healthcare professionals
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@VALERIEE9999 lol these fools and their second hand hurt feelings 😂🤍
@rainstorm9023 her behavior discourages others from going in. Who wants to deal with a narcissistic, y0tch while trying to recover ? She triggers them into having to be there in the first place anyways sooooo.
@rainstorm9023 you want to talk "awful" ? Yes, let's do that. Let's talk about all th3 children that have been groomed and creeped on by the pedos she surrounds herself with, convicted pedos. Want details ? How about the fact that she instructed her mods to silence any child who spoke about it or any adult who spoke up on their behalf ? This has been verified by 2 former mods, both who quit, one was with her for years, a licensed psychologist and her position was verified by the other mods. How about the fact that she's a child groomer, who glamorizes her ed as she aims her content at kids ? How about the fact that several girls are cold and in the ground because of her lies ? How about the fact that when an aunt of one of those girls confronted her during a live, telling Ewwie that her niece had passed because of her Ewwie laughed in her face. How about the fact that she habitually flashed kids for over a year while doing lives on Twitch ? Want more ? How about the fact that she caters to ana fetishists as well as pedos ? How about the fact that when Jaded and I exposed one of her simps for having csd's that Ewwie wouldn't ban him until people on both sides demanded he be blocked and even then she wouldn't ban him, a mod had to do it. She wanted him to stay because he gave her money, over $30,000. Want more ? How about the fact that she's been age restrict3d on TT for th3 past several months for flashing and glorifying her ed ? How about the fact that she used convicted pesos for mods ?
@@rainstorm9023"American" behavior vs. behaviour that's UK, Canadian. That's not because you can't spell we don't spell it that way. Plus you're trolling Spicy Lizard hardcore. It's one thing to have an opinion in which you're entitled to and another to keep arguing about nonsense and your facts are wrong. You stated your personal opinion and she pointed out facts . You keep arguing that she changed the subject and she didn't. You've gone from opinion to arguing with her , you still haven't made a valid point. So stop it. Go somewhere else and troll. Peace!
I used to be a caregiver to someone with a disability who can fly into a rage and then be really sweet and then fly into a rage again. I had to quit. So this thing doesn't surprise me. There are people who use their disabilities for manipulation tactics. Nice video by the way❤
I'm sorry you had to deal with that. As I stated in the description, it's not my vid, all credit goes to Tenderslug and yes, I agree, she did a wonderful job. 🤍
@@SpicyLizard- 👍
I’d like to hear Eugenia’s response to that tbh
She denied it of course🤍
@@kellevichy How about I don’t give a crap? After gaslighting audiences for years and after even fusing my own eating disorder as a teenager due to watching her influence, I think I’m entitled to a curiosity of who she really is what went down in what eventually turned to a relapse very quickly. If you have a problem with people like me wanting to know the truth behind her gaslighting that hides who she really is, go cry somewhere else. I have no sympathy for that grown woman; therefore, if I am interested to hear a response with regard to what really happened and who she really is, good on me and anyone else who feels the same way. Because guess what? You don’t get to put yourself on the internet and then be left alone because you think you don’t owe anyone anything. You’re on the internet; therefore, you will be questioned. Your life is on display for the entire world, so she’ll just have to suck up what comes with living a life on social media, let alone a toxic one.
@@SpicyLizard- ofc she did 😒 hope she decides to change and accept help, tho given her history, I’ve very little hope.
@@lethalprincess2087 she's a child pred
@@SpicyLizard- Exacfly that. Most of her audiences are children and teens. And I’ve heard people say “no sane person would believe that is healthy.” Well, children’s brains aren’t fully developed until the ages of 18-25. So ofc they don’t have the ability to logically irrationalize such bad and unhealthy behavior. And that’s another reason why she’s a problem. But anyway. Appreciate the alleged info. Hopefully it brings a different light and awareness to the people who still support her.
Yessss someone found it! Thank you for the upload, I saw this earlier today and was hoping it would be picked up by someone. ❤ I appreciate you.
😊Tenderslug is awesome for sharing this as much as the girl who stepped forward is. The truth needs to be told. I hope everyone sees this one way or another ! 🤍 Appreciate you too !
Same! I saw it earlier too! This absolutely makes so much sense!
This sounds similar to a stay in a psychiatric hospitals.
Is it bad as someone with a past eating disorder that i can see when someone is still suffering? I had this happen in rehab when i had an ED and as a recovering addict that another individual who had an ED and an addict i cried seeing my friend as i can tell she wasn't better, kinda liķe a codependent friendship, recovery was the best no phone until i was close to graduating, honestly hearing that she was hard was and is someone you cannot fix and they are hard to handle like i was with adhd in a mental health facility.
While I am not excusing the rude behavior and tantrums which is sad to hear. I did not know she could be like behind the scenes. However based on content she has posted online , I want to be clear that this is a personal theory. As someone diagnosed with aspergers which now you would be diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder, I began to see signs she could be autistic over time that I connected with , with her social awkwardness at large gatherings and various events and how she had difficulty doing various things that required some sort of motor skills, like trying to hit a tiny ball with a golf club and unfolding one of those chairs people bring to the beach, and she was often confused with some comments in her streams that sometimes had like a figure of speech or a light hearted joke. I also was anorexic and it was very difficult to gain weight and eat more, I am glad that I have a better relationship with food now. People who are on the autism spectrum have an increased risk of developing anorexia and have a more difficult time recovering and the normal stress of recovery is even more intense. I remember when she came out of treatment it seemed the entire internet was celebrating and I didnt comment anything to come off as putting her down, but I could see signs in her post treatment online content that she wasnt better. While I hope she does get better- I will mention she has had an unhealthy relationship with food for a very long time and likely experienced concern from family and friends through that time, we may need to accept the fact she may never get over this ED.
I always wondered how she can have such long hair. Now i know.
Having this much issues with herself - it is impossible to have stable mind on daily basis. Hormones, chemistry in our body dictate how we feel.
True, or not. I wish she will somehow heal.
@shamanessofdestruction7979 she doesn't, this shows her wig lace, microbeads and major bald spots.
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She will never heal. She is in last stages right now.🤍
Given the description of Eugenia's true personality (because I completely believe the writer of the email), it sounds like she has all the hallmarks of someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Not so sure about that footnote, I can only presume that’s speculation on the other inpatient’s behalf. From my own experiences in MH wards, I can assure you, the staff have dealt with ‘bigger & uglier’ characters than Eugenia’s, & they’ll have seen every tactic, tantrum and everything inbetween played a hundred times over. Since Eugenia had put on some weight, I should think she had met the goal set for her by the team she was under, which was why she was then allowed to go home - I’m sure her behaviour contributed to her leaving in terms of ‘she’s now reached her goal, we can’t do anything more for her here’ as she would’ve been a hinderance to the others recovery, but she was likely ready to be released anyway.
Her behaviour doesn’t shock me one bit.
Seeing this makes me reflect on how I behaved at my eating disorder residential and I am appalled by how much my behavior resembled Eugenia's back then. The first thing I said after I came out of the bathroom after purging was that I really didn't want to be the fattest one there. There's fucking nothing that could be more triggering than to say that. It got to the point that I started attempting to purge at the table just because I wanted the attention and shock value. I jeopardized everyone else's recovery because I was an entitled brat who didn't care that I was terrorizing the mental wellbeing of equally sick patients. I can't do anything to take back the ghastly behaviors that I inflicted on others in the residential. So it will plague my conscience for the rest of my life that I terrorized these innocent suffering people who didn't deserve anything but compassion and support. This is how eating disorders strip you of you of compassion and diggity and morph you into a monster. I'll never be able to take these sins back. To the people of that residential I am so sorry.
❤ damn I felt this one
Tough read but I hope writing this helped you with processing your time in treatment.
Once you're 18 years of age if you're not mandated through the courts you're not obligated to stay. You can sign yourself out of treatment before it ends. The only time you're not allowed to do it if the judge says no or it's part of plea deal ( mandatory 51/50 or 52/50 ) as well in a criminal case to seek help whether it be for drug, alcohol or an ED and anything in btw.
Can they make you stay if you are autistic, even if you are over 18 at the time of treatment? That's what they did to me. I could not leave the inpatient centers I was at. Like can they make you stay based on how sick you are, how badly you need refeeding? I begged and cried to go home and could not leave. No matter how many times I asked to leave
The only way they can enforce that is by having a hearing. That doesn't mean you're necessarily at the courthouse. All's it takes is for a licensed medical provider to ask the courts for the patient to stay longer. All they have to do is show proof the patient needs more time. Also if they think the patient isn't ready to integrate back into the community , are they safe. So yeah if a judge signs off on their request you can be held there against your will. There is a difference between involuntary and voluntary.@ashleyphillips5477
@@VALERIEE9999 Thank you for the info
Also when people get into a situation when it comes hospitalization or knowing your rights you should have an advocate who knows the process, can help navigate or speak on your behalf. A lot people don't have that or they're unaware of that information. It helps. Advocates can help find legal help, housing, financial and an easy and safe way to transition from treatment and back into the community. Not everyone has family or someone who can vouch for them. They can also help persuade a different outcome. Caseworkers aren't always helpful, sometimes they're because they're overworked with their caseloads so that 1:1 support isn't always there. Having an advocate they're there to support the patient or client. There on your side. You may not need it but it's always great info to pass onto someone who's going through it. @ashleyphillips5477 @@ashleyphillips5477
@@VALERIEE9999 This was helpful to read. Thank you for this info.
Definitely not shocking news. How her simps/fans can't smell her lying bs through their screens is beyond me.
They're willingly ignorant. They still think that's her hair. 😂🤍
@@SpicyLizard- I see the other channel deleted the video. 🤔
@@wvgirl7264It’s still there she just put the Video on Private
only approved Subs can see it
i can smell her lying . i mean eugenia.😠😠😠💯
She Under MK ULTRA Control
She needs to be shut down from the entire internet. This is so disturbing, and her "influences" are hurting vulnerable kids. Her being known as "famous" is so disturbing on so many levels.
Amen ! 🍁💛🍁
Thank you for sharing. I believe the letter, it sounds genuine. Like someone else said, saying she didn't know how to make the bed absolutely sounds like her. She didn't know you could make icing ffs, she thought you bought it at the store. It sounds like her for sure. She didn't know how to dig a hole to plant something, that is completely common sense. And if she had have tried I don't believe she would have been strong enough to use the shovel properly.
It's not mine, the woman who contacted the original poster and "Tenderslug" in the vid are the ones who shared. She deleted her post due to harassment, I however will not delete. I'm thankful she allowed me to post this. Ewwie can't even use a setting spray bottle without using 2 hands, there's no way she'd work a shovel. 🤍
@@SpicyLizard- Thank you for leaving yours up, I haven't checked on her in a year because it's just so sad so these past couple days I have been catching up.
I understand where she’s coming from and this isn’t excusing her behavior but when In a mental hospital atleast 2 girls out of id say 10-12 acted like this. It sounds like she has issues that go beyond the ed and so much more she is genuinely so starved of help because she won’t let anyone help her
This was (supposedly) her behavior in the ed clinic that she willingly went to.
@@SpicyLizard-and? You can want to recover and dont want to recover at the same time. Its a mental disorder. If it was easy everyone would just stope having it. You cant compare mental health problems. Also you willingly put this on the internet. Now you have to live with the reactions 🤷🏻♀️ and as a psychiatric nurse i am really sad you put this online. Noone expects you to be empathetic or understanding while fighting your own demons. But thats it. Concentrate on your own path and leave other patients alone. There is no extra gain from this video except for you getting attention. Something you judged Eugenia for. Of course she demanded attention. She wanted everyone to see that she is hurting and struggling. Thats part of her problem. She wants to be sick.
If I ever see Eugenia in public I’m calling a ambulance the police have to do something about this they can’t let her die they have to put her back in rehab or something
The police check her regularly...watch what Candice Owen's posted about that. 👍🤍
If you’ve seen how her mother is you’ll understand why she is so insane. I feel so freaking bad for her, her mother made her this war and now she can’t find a way to not be this
Nah, it's not momster's doing. Ewwie is a narcissistic y0tch.
I met her once in New York she was very rude like her shit didn't stink
Well, you can't take a shxt if you don't eat, so yeah, her Shxt don't stinks
What did she say/do?
@@VoVina111 she was like no pictures like very rude and mean then she was like cursing us out and shit
@@kennylupo3066 wow 😳 and she acts so nice when she's recording meeting others
@@kennylupo3066what a 🐝 itch. I'd have filmed her 😂🤍
When I was young I was in treatment . This sounds so true. She is so deep in denial that of course she told others in the group that they were crazy ! We had someone in our group who behaved the way she did and the medical team had not choice but to ask her to leave. They did that for the sake of those willing to be well. A non-willing patient can severally damage the trajectory to wellness and progress the others were on and had. Ms. Cooney is not special or a unique case. She is simply very ill. It rings true because when I first was in I was in treatment-
It was the one telling others they were sicker than I.
I was read the riot act. I quickly felt humbled but I such a motivation to be well I apologized to the group. I fully recovered almost 40 years ago and never looked back going on to speak to groups and have a fulsome life with two- now grown children. You enter recovery knowing it will be the toughest thing you have ever done. It is not the Four Seasons. After all, unlike alcohol or drug addiction a person MUST eat. The control we need by not eating is by its very nature something we must have to live and is reason anorexia/bulimia are so hard to treat. I quickly that “this is my body- it is where I live!”. I also learnt that the only thing I have complete control of is my current thought. It is helpful for commenters to read about what anorexia really is. It is NOT about a diet gone awry or a desire to be thin. It is about deep psychological issues and issues of low self-esteem, desperate need for perfection, but with big egos, need to control, fear, perhaps a history of abuse or trauma certainly the need to control (hence the need to feel in control for self-protection) self-loathing, personality disorder, emotional immaturity and many other pathologies. Yes. I was the person who went in and insulted my group. I stayed and gained some humility. While I was there a fellow patient died at a cardiac arrest (she was 26) but I met incredible you g woman who were instrumental in my recovery as were my team of doctors. Ms. Cooney’s case is extreme. To young woman who admire her or wish to emulate her and have some of the risk factors - Please know there are so many medical workers, psychiatrists, social workers and nurses who are expert. If non-treated death is inevitable. To you g woman who admire her please find the young woman doing the important things in life- taking care of oneself, loving and helping others and giving. Look for the conquerers. Of course we all like makeup videos and funny stuff on UA-cam. Watching a 30 year old woman pretend she is something she is not to get money is tragic. Her life is so tiny. I fear that many of her followers are very young or are men with fetishes. It is disturbing and unhealthy. Take good care of yourselves and those around you. X
Thank you for your truth Songbird. I'm glad you found the strength to recover, you went through a lot to get where you are, be proud. You're right, so many of her enablers are kids that she aims her content at as well as pedos and ana fetishists. It's sickening, SHE is sickening. Stay blessed. 🤍
I wonder what she asked for from staff in her high squeaky voice?
An Uber asap. Or her wigs/war paint/phone back?
Her phone...
So if you're annoying enough you can escape treatment faster.
Ha, nice.
fully surprised to learn eugenia is still alive. its impressive how long she's hung on. i still hope that some day she can recover and become a better person and realise the awful she's done while in this fucked mental state because no one deserves mental illness, but she's been fucked for so long that it seems less and less likely she'll ever decide to recover. maybe it'll take a truly scary close call to wake her up. or maybe she's decided she wants to go out like this. who knows how a disordered brain will respond. its just a shame how many lives she's damaged in her selfishness and how many people she'll take down with her. i genuinely dont think she takes pleasure in it though. mental illnesses, especially ones like eating disorders and depression, make you incredibly egocentric. its pretty much impossible to think about how your actions effect others, you are so focused on how you feel at every waking moment and so focused on appeasing the illness' demands. its why one of the first steps in therapy is to make a list about all the ways you have hurt other people with your mentally ill behaviours. but you have to be willing to listen and do the work to step outside of yourself.
You have to factor in the whole habitually flashing children thing, her catering to p3d0s, using them as mods, aiming her content at kids etc. There are dark and evil things going on outside her ed. She's a danger to others in several ways, and people are in the ground because of her and others have lost their innocence because of her.
Eh... Not gonna happen bud.
As someone who has a sleep eating disorder I fully support this video I think more should be made to be an eye opener because sometimes people hear what other people have to say and that's all they need to persuade them to get help
Very true ! Hope you're doing well ! 🤍
Very on brand for Eugenia. All of it.
I like how you put that ! 👍🤍
yes.💯
It absolutely is true. As a former patient decades ago in a group setting there is one “Eugenia” in every group. Given her psychopathy, her leaving recovery and crying it was not a five-star hotel or Disney world. it is clear she does not have the courage or willingness to get well. She is severely emotionally immature. Having a true authentic desire to recover from an eating disorder is the hardest thing an eating disordered patient will do. It certainly was for me. These diseases have been around for a hundred years. Social media has given platforms to many ill people. Their motivations are most often not healthy and are self-serving. I went on to live a fulsome life with love and family. I wanted a life!- more than I feared gaining ten extra pounds. And my poor beleaguered body healed and let me carry two beautiful children. When in recovery you “give over control” to get it back”. Such a person who exhibits the behaviours that Eugenia allegedly did is something I have seen before and such a fellow patient truly can negatively impact the other patients trying to become well and clinicians must protect those with the honest willingness to be well. One person was kicked out of our group. This young woman died at the age of 29. I have been a speaker to young girls who have or continue to suffer from eating disorders. I try and tell them “This is your body- this is where YOU live”. Eating is non-negotiable to live. A reckoning of sorts must happen and I was so grateful back then and now to have a therapist, a social worker, a dietician and world specialists by my side. I salute all those who came before me, those in recovery now, and those to come. In my life I have known three young women who did not think they were “as sick” or “as crazy” as the others in the group. All three died of a cardiac arrests. I get very angry at social media allowing this 30 year old woman to portray herself as a role model or a woman another should emulate. I have compassion for her too! I am angry at her denial. I am angry that she pretends all is well. She is tragically, a very ill woman who may very well succumb to this horrific disease.
What is the point in this video? You just think this is vital information that needs to be known or you just thrive on drama? Maybe you are the one who needs to be in treatment.
First off, as I stated in the description, this isn't my video, so you can keep your ignorant and misguided insults. As for the point of it, I can't understand it for you. Maybe try listening next time instead of having a fit over something you don't have the cognitive ability to grasp.
While I was at treatment at renrew center in 2019-- i met someone who had been at the treatment center that EC had literally just discharged from the day after EC left they were admitted and can confirm that it was a monte nido program and those are exceptional care programs but anybody who doesn't want to recover won't get anything out of any program is the sad reality
I hope you're doing better. You're right, you can't force recovery. She will never recover. 🤍
@@SpicyLizard- Thanks! I actually think she truly struggles with what is called unicorn syndrome in relation to eating disorders. I hold a personal philosophy that everyone absolutely CAN recover from an eating disorder --but not everyone does. Meaning that it's ultimately a choice but I don't believe it's too late for anybody. I would never rob someone even with the most receded and distorted mind and in denial mode of slightest bit oh hope for themselves that can motivate them to change. But unicorn syndrome is actually so common and I have strggled with this too at certain points. Unicorn syndrome is when the individual believes that they are the unicorn and exception to recovery and actually don't believe that they can recover or that the impact of the behaviors will actually kill them or hurt them in any way. They believe they are invincible to the ED essentially. This is particularly common in individuals who are severely malnourished as it has serious cognitive impact on the brain
@angelNoll10 I understand what you're saying but it's not true. It is often too late. Prime example, LiqueFaith, may she rest in peace. Ewwie will never recover, her ED stems from her narcissism. 🤍
It’ll be interesting to see dark mode Eugenia with her real hair
Was she tubes the whole time or did she actually eat? I’m interested
I always thought that she quit the treatment program after one month. She was willing to complete the program but didn't because she was kicked out?
I didn't hear her say Ewwie was willing to do anything. I'm thinking that's when they moved her to the "mental institution" ..? Was after a month. That's what Ewwie called it. She said she wasn't in treatment the whole time.🤍
@@alessandralove3941kma 😊
Sounds like she was kicked out for the opposite reason- she didn't want to comply with any of it and was disrupting those who were genuinely trying.
Exactly ! She says that right at the end. @@lucypurr1246
@@SpicyLizard-I don’t think that footnote is what happened in actuality. Places like those have dealt with far worse than Eugenia.
Sounds like someone in treatment for an ED. Having a tough time adjusting to being forced into recovery. This is mean
She wasn't forced, she admitted she went willingly. She was however forced into the mental institution via a 5150.
People are going to act like this in mental hospitals, big shocker. Its a hard thing to go through, and I dont think Eugenia should be put on blast for this. She's there to get help, it's stressful to get help, and patient reactions differ from one another.
@rylandroo1992 It wasn't a mental hospital. It was an ED Recovery center that she agreed to go to so there's no excuse.
@@SpicyLizard- Just because you agree to go doesn't make it any easier
I can't tell if it's true or not but i definitely can believe in a voice switch thing because she did that one time on her stream. Her voice and the way she speaks became very different.
She has let her real voice slip through many times. Happens when she's angry. 🤍
Ya she does seem like a spoilt brat! Throwing tantrums like a child 🙄 she constantly needs attention, good or bad it doesn't matter!
Facts ! 💯 🤍
We have passed the point of no return of helping Eugenia cooney honestly. There's nothing we can do to save eugenia
Sounds like forcing someone into treatment isnt the way to go.
That is absolutely spot on I so see that 100% a spoiled brat mentality…what a find sweet lady ❤
So I saw the video, and I saw some of the comments.
1. Whether what this person said about eugina is true or not, it definitely is too overwhelming to deal with someone who acts like this.
But based on some of what I seen eugina post on her own channel before? Some of these sounds realistic
2. You say in some of the comment replies that eugina went willingly. But not everyone says yes and means it, sometimes people just say yes to avoid drama with others.
Sure she may be an adult, but even you and many others agree she definitely doesn’t act like that adult
3. Eugina is only one person, I don’t understand why many still worry / think about her. I only was curious if she uploads still to UA-cam then I find this video. But there’s plenty of people like her who may struggle but not genuinely want to recover
It’s better to save your time / energy on other things ❤️ and help should be prioritized only to those who truly want the help and want to overcome their struggles.
Plz note: I’m definitely not on Eugenia’s side, nor am I trying to play devils advocate. I’m just a stranger on the internet giving their own personal opinion ❤️
As for Eugenia? She shows she is comfortable with this, there’s nothing more we can do, and maybe take a page out of Jaclyn Glenn’s book and save our time and energy on other things we enjoy / make us happy ❤️
I’m not justifying all of eugenias actions but everyone saying she’s not sweet or innocent. Who is? Of course she’d be at her worse in the hospital and of course she gets angry, complains, etc. she’s human. I think it’s unfair the standards we hold her to.
This is my own experience with most fellow anorexic patients when I was at hospital for treatment, but we were preteens - teenagers... I always give Eugenia the benefit of the doubt because she's sick but then I reflect on the fact that not everyone who was ill with an ED acted this way; including myself. Naturally there were times where we disobeyed or were rude because we felt our progress with losing weight or whatever we sought to achieve was threatened, besides going through puberty, of course. So I suppose it comes down to personality after all, but we mustn't ignore the mental illness that is somewhat influencing her erratic behaviour too.
So instead of people privately trying to help Eugenia they do it on video and all over the Internet to make Eugenia feel worse and to get there a few minutes of fame cuz the only time people watch their videos is if you attach your name to it. This is not okay for you to do this to you and being if you actually cared you would actually do something about it without a camera. It's like all the people that only help the homeless are people in need when they have a camera in their videoing it and get millions of views off homeless people
How exactly are they getting "fame" when it was said anonymously? 😂 "Instead of privately trying to help"? Who owes her anything? 🙄 I don't care but I'll tell you who I do care about, the girls in the ground because they believed her lies, the girls starving themselves because they believe her lies that she's "fine and everything like that" and that her "doctor says that she is fine" as she glamorizes her ed. How about the kids in her community that she habitually flashed multiple times a week for over a year? She aimed her content at them and surrounded herself with convicted p3d0s and ana fetishists. Allowing them to creep on the kids and told her mods to silence anyone who spoke about it. She even had a convicted ped0 as a mod. You can confirm this all with a former mod of hers who quit because of all of this who is a licensed psychologist and her position was confirmed by the other mods. So, maybe put some thought into who the real victims are in the situation.
tbh, exactly what are they supposed to do? people have tried helping eugenia on and off camera for decades. if even friends going the nuclear option and sending her to a mental facility hasn't worked, a couple random strangers can't do shit. this woman clearly doesn't want help.
I believe every word of that letter. And I'm sorry but her Mom is to blame for a lot of it. Yes, Eugenia is an adult & should take responsibility for her actions, but if you have a demented mother raising you & isolating you then you may not know everything you're doing is wrong. Eugenia is beyond ruined and it's sad..
@ChrissyD22472 are you saying she doesn't know habitually flashing kids is wrong ? I've got a whole list but will just put that out there for now.
Short hair????? Hmmmm so her long hair isn’t real???
Here is some proof, proof and more proof🤍. ua-cam.com/video/fHQC6Wiap4M/v-deo.htmlsi=NZNJug4XX2l26VtI
@@josefinebliss2801 cry
People who self harm like this can be court ordered to be under the care of a treatment facility. This was done to Bam Margera for substance abuse. If someone (it doesn't have to be family) files for guardianship over her the court will be obligated to send a special investigator to interview her. They will assess her current health and mental state. If she is deemed incapable of caring for herself (and she will be) she will be forced into a hospital to save her life.
She was sent to a mental institution via a 5150. There was also law passed some time ago that if someone's bmi is under a certain amount they are deemed mentally unable to make their own decisions health wise. 🤍
Oh okay. Thanks for the info. I would guess her current bmi is at that level they should intervene, yeah?
@@BrittanyStewart-ni4sc when I hit 95 pounds my Dr told me that if I hit 85 I will no longer be able to make any medical choices for my self she's gonna step in and over power what I want. Which ment she was gonna put me in the hospital weather I wanted to or not.
That's what should've happened with this lady because she's in too deep.
@@SpicyLizard-Technically if she can still do her everyday routine she's not mentally unable and that's where they lock that at.
It's when you do not have the energy to even get up is when they become mentally unable.
I no this for a fact. Also depends what kind of anorexia she has. It's not all the same.
To me she has anorexia nervosa which Is a psychological issue and needs help immediately
I no I have been dealing with this issue for years
It's a chemical imbalance in the brain and can be treated if the right thing is done
Wow. Very short hair and no makeup.
She has severe hair loss 🤍 ua-cam.com/video/fHQC6Wiap4M/v-deo.htmlsi=I9pvjISCzKvnfOwG
KEEP REPEATING IT OVER AND OVER !
I wanna say as disclaimer, i don’t normally bat for eugenia and disagree with 90% of what she does online -Whether this is true or not, legal or not- treatment is hard for most and if she wasn’t perfectly cooperative like many can be then why publish this? I think it’s so messed up and it’s one thing to socialize among friends but to blast someone in treatment? It doesn’t matter if it’s forced or not.. ethically, this is fucked up to put this out for the entire world to see. And to criticize her appearance is wholly unnecessary and should have been left out like fr for an ED place smh
Lastly- Eugenia blasted the state run facility or mental hospital where they drop most 5150 then she was transferred to a specific ED facility which she had almost nothing but good things to say about so that right there is in an invalid part of the story. Btw- state run facilities are infamous for abuse of patients and you can go look that shit up yourself. As for staff being unable to handle her- yeah that’s not how it works. In almost any facility regardless of age and do not let anyone tell you otherwise- a relative or spouse can pull you out at any time. Her mother was actively trying to get her out and most places don’t try to enforce past 48-72h for initial evaluations. This is from someone who has had majority of her friends and family work in healthcare or volunteer at these facilities.
I also do not agree with Eugenia not needing treatment but at the same time- I realized after watching her for about a decade on the sideline form learning about onision therein, learning of her - I do not at all give a fuck if she gets better anymore. When you see all the comments taking about their experiences and how she’s their inspo is horrific!!!! These companies are making money off this whole situation and i guarantee she would not be milking this if she didn’t have an audience. Her weapon is the fanbase that enables her bs and she doesnt deserve an online presence. Fact: Her infamy online perpetuates her ED! Her entire family should be investigated but regardless- I care way more about who she influences and her online presence than whether or not this girl gets adequate health treatment. The amount of people she is harming and affecting through a disease literally cause by influence of pro ana bs?! These companies don’t give a fuck and just wanna roll in the $$. It reminds me of family channels or other creepy channels gettin paid.
What I worry about the most in this whole situation is that Eugenia and her mom are setting a precedent. She will %100 be replaced when she’s gone by other ED influencers and how many more will be influenced by this bs? It was once underground to find pro ED content but now profit over anything and everything so this is alive and well in a simple search box. Her content even appears on kids YT because she constantly caters to kids content! This isn’t a typical ED scenario either- she is totally aware of what she is doing and how profitable it is. This shouldn’t be the norm- this content shouldn’t be accessible for anyone including Eugenia herself. If you want her to stay online pushing ED content then you are an asshole who is not thinking of anyone she influences.
You can't play both sides
That is a big no no. Ypu dont share information of copatients. And you should not spread that as well.
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@@SpicyLizard-I don't agree with a lot of things she has done but this does feel like an invasion of privacy.
Wow! Thank you for sharing this!
🤍😊All credit goes to Tenderslug and the girl who spoke up.
@@Peachyy87 Again with the "sharing'" word. It is betrayal to discuss any info about fellow clients, inmates, patients, etc. from detox centers, mental health centers, AA programs, eating disorder clinics, etc. To disclose info about others whom you have been in treatment with is breaking human boundaries. In defense of all p
@@lizking385 Yes you are right about that, however the person that shared this is/was a fellow patient. If it were her doctor that shared this I would also be quite shocked.
This is purely my opinion, you do not have to agree but please be kind with your words of you wish to repond. Thank you.
I believe she acted these ways and agree it's not okay to treat other patients and staff that way. BUT I wish that people would try to step into euginias shoes for a moment and have a little bit of compassion.
If I remember correctly, when she was sectioned, euginia believed she was fine (and this was constantly reinforced by some viewers saying she looked great), and felt she'd been betrayed by her friends who got her sectioned. Thus, she probably felt like she was being held prisoner in a place with all these mentally ill people, even though she was fine. Plus, the feeding tube likely took away the one thing that made her feel any sort of control (eating/not eating). She was then forced to eat and gain weight, likely causing am influx of aweful thoughts about herself (e.g.,. Feeling like a failiure or disgusting for gaining weight). Considering all of that, it is understandable that she did not cooperate well and caused havoc.
And as I said, that doesn't mean it's fine she was disrespectful to staff etc, but I do think that judging her character, based on her behaviour during this extremely difficult period of her being so unwell is unfair. In my opinion, no one's character should be based on thier behaviour during a mental health crisis.
I have many more opinions relating to euginias and her content but I wanted to make this comment purely about this video and the email it describes and why I personally think it's an unfair video to have on the internet for all to see.
Ah yes, "compassion" for Ewwie. Yes, let's talk about compassion shall we ? Where was her compassion for the aunt of a girl who confronted Ewwie during a live that her niece had passed because the girl believed Ewwie's lies ? Ewwie laughed in her face. Where was/is her compassion for the children who were screaming about Ewwie's paying, convicted p3d0s and ana fetishists were creeping on them? She caters to pervs and directs her content at kids, do the math. Her compassion for them was telling her mods to silence any child who spoke up about it as well as any adult on their behalf while she made the pervs vips. All confirmed by a former long time mod, a licensed psychologist whose position was confirmed by all of the other mods. Again, how about her non existent compassion for the children she habitually flashed on TT enough to get her age restricted ? Not to mention the constant flashing on Twitch prior to that ? It's not an "accident" when it happens 100 times. Where was her compassion for everyone else in the clinic ?(supposedly) So, you'll have to excuse all of us who know the truth if we don't have sympathy and compassion for the child grooming, ED glamorizing, p3d0 catering trash.
@SpicyLizard- Preach 🙌🙌. I'm so glad you responded to this chick because you always have the right things to say and I love that about you ❤
@rachelrae860 😊🤍ty. Notice they never have anything to say after they are schooled ? And they NEVER go to Ewwie with the same finger pointing energy and say anything to her about her behavior. They all of a sudden have no opinion which proves they aren't speaking of what they think is right and wrong, it's that they want to only defend the wombat
She does give spoiled brat vibes and her internet persona 100% screams fake so I believe this.
@gmagain and she's 30, she's way too old to be acting like a spoiled brat.💜🕷💜
This probably true then again I really don’t know if it matters that much rn in 2024 bringing up how she was acting horribly in a facility (as one of the sickest people in there) years prior. idk just feels like a very personal experience to share and there’s not much really to say or do about it atp either.
She explains at the end why it's important to bring this up now.
@@SpicyLizard- all she said was “this is alleged, do with this info what you will” just don’t see what we should do with some anonymous statement about how she was being rude in a treatment facility like 10 yrs ago. Also people always say stuff like “she let her mask slip she’s not that nice all the time deep down she’s a horrible person” she’s probably just a person clearly with mental health issues and no it’s not an excuse but seems wierd for people to talk about this like they were there and knew what she was feeling or going through mentally. Everyone’s experiences with mental health are different and what are we supposed to do with this info fr.
You know, this person posted this on her page and she took it down cuz she was getting SO much backlash for it. God, people really suck. ☹️😒🙄👎 Why can't people understand that she is just trying to open people's eyes to the truth and that she isn't trying to start drama and lie? I mean, WTF is wrong with people? Why do people have to be so butthurt by everything all the time? It's WAY beyond ridiculous. Jesus Christ. Just makes me loathe humanity more and more. 😡👎 Except people like you, of course. God bless people like you and this wonderful lady who was brave enough to speak out. 😇🙏 Love you, girl. 😊♥️😍🥰🤗😘😘
They can’t handle hearing about EC being anything but the poor sweet little damsel in distress that they hold her up as in their minds 🙄.
Thank you sweetie. Got so many people coming at me like I wrote the letter. Bunch of m0rons😂 not to mention all the triggered enablers, white knights, virtue signalers and self proclaimed experts. 😂 Much love ! 🤍
@@mevavideos5922 they are in fairy land as much as she is, it's ridiculous. 🤍
@@lll9409first off, as I stated in the description this is not my video. Secondly, nobody shared health records lol she shared the interactions and observations and she's allowed to do so. The original poster said "supposedly" if you listen so deal with it.😏 Everyone knows what Ewwie's "reputation" is 😂
@lll9409 it was the girl in the vid who originally had it posted and the only reason she removed it was because she didn't want to deal with imbeciles such as yourself.
😂 It hardly goes against any "category." No worries, wouldn't travel to your egg fart of a country 😂
starts at 1:03
So Eugenia Cooney is basically the Ellen Degeneres of UA-cam.
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I believe this 100% im sorry but her im a sweet little angel act is bullshit and i see threw masks easily. She needs removed from social media and stay gone till she gets actual help and not be a terror to staff and others.
I was inclined to believe this story however I don’t know if I believe that her hair was short and that she has extensions. I’ve noticed in the past few years it appears that Eugenia has a lot of grey hairs. You can see the grey hairs in the longer parts of her hair too. Plus, in the last couple of years her hair doesn’t look healthy. I feel like if they were extensions they wouldn’t have grey hairs in them…..
Start this at 0:14 seconds, you'll change your mind. ua-cam.com/video/fHQC6Wiap4M/v-deo.htmlsi=Jx0tV4BZgBsrt0VH
Youre making it harder for her to get help. Why would ANYONE get help when people like you only do things like this... NONE OF THAT is anyone business... If its real, the person who write that... Needs to cut it out. I. So tired of people complaining about other when they clearly have issues kf their own to worry about. This makes me sick. Youre wrong for sharing this and who ever wrote that needa to shit up. Her true colors??? Sounds like a girl who needs lots of help! I know that people who are so pathetic and aay fucked up mean shit dont want to let anyone know their name. Well, my name is mary come at me...
😂 Cry louder enabler. You're such a hypocrite. "Tired of people complaining about others" but here you are complaining. The rest of us have zero respect for those who support this child grooming, habitual child flashing, age restricted on TT, pedo and ana fetishist catering Ed glamorizing trash. You've got no argument strawman.
It’s interesting because she has always acted like this way. We just never got to see that full side of her tho. But yea it doesn’t surprise me of who she really is as a person since I’ve met multiple females who have issues in general. But yea… I feel bad for her. But there is not much we can do.🖤🖤
Lol many🤍 females have issues yes 😂 so do guys but still, I agree. Don't feel bad for anyone who habitually flashed children for over a year and endangers children's innocence by aiming content at them while keeping close company with p3d0s. Feel bad for her victims, especially the ones in the ground because they believed her lies 💔. Great propic BTW
...Throwing things?? That's the part that really seems bizarre to me. I can't imagine her doing that or having the strength to.
Take control from a narcissist and what they really are emerges quickly. No strength to throw anything? Seriously? She's in worse condition now than when she was 5150 and she has the strength to go to Disneyland but you think she didn't have the strength to throw something?
During treatment she was being fed so she would have more strength. I imagine she threw lighter objects like lamps, books, chairs etc though
she definitely had the strength to throw things especially while actually in recover actually getting better. she has been seen on footage picking up things that are light to healthy people but heavy for her condition. she absolutely has a way to throw handheld stuff and the like.
@@brendamertes9472 also, don't forget before she went to TT she was dancing almost every night for her perverts for hours and flashing kids while she did it.
panic and adrenaline dude. in her head she was basically fighting for her life
I mean obviously she isnt mentally well.. but the internet clout must be worth it
Clout for who ? This was said anonymously.
I thought this person email would be trolling, She sleeps on her pink sofa so wouldn't know how to make a bed that is true no eye contact interesting. Ive long thought she is on the spectrum. She is still being teased online for wearing the same quotes "tackty cheep dress to events" when she has all this choice and her obsession with JS, As a Mum of of 3 kids with asd Im pretty sure she has Asd eating disorders are more common in girls with it too. Makes me sad seeing her being trolled as she believes the comments too.
She not in the spectrum. Familiarize yourself with her older vids, you'll change your mind.
@SpicyLizard- I've seen her old videos where she approaches random people for reactions etc. Its just my view I've got 20 years of learning on it. I can see she's having cognitive issues due to her illness more and more it's sad.
@gemmaholley6017 then you've seen she has no trouble making and maintaining eye contact. Also that isn't a blanket issue for those in the spectrum. What's sad is she glamorizes her ed as she aims her content at kids then habitually flashes them. What's sad is she is a predator. What's sad is she caters to convicted p3d0s and ana fetishists. What's sad is she has used them for mods. Are you aware of the fact that she told her mods to silence any child or adult who spoke up on their behalf that the old p3rvs were creeping on them ? Are you aware this was confirmed by a long time mod who quit because of what was going on who is a licensed Psychologist and her position was verified by the other mods? Many kids stepped forward about the grooming that goes on in her community. The p3dos are even mentioned on her wiki page. She knows what she's doing, she's no victim nor an innocent.
For the ppl complaining abt why she's releasing personal information about EC etc. Like please shut the hell up because honestly does EC really cares about privacy?. That selfish brat is HUNGRY for attention since DAY ONE and already exposing her ED in public platforms that unfortunately influence minors as well. She's like her mother, ACTING innocent but deep inside MEAN.
Gurl I'm SO sorry you have to deal with that and all the staffs. And no surprise she has short hair, she's loosing hair.
❤ Amen! 🙌
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you said it best. I've been wondering when we were going to see her mean streak.
Your sick in the head to be commenting this abt a stranger
@Lilliarnaa you just did you total hypocrite. Sit down and shut up.
Is it true that her mother bailed her out of the facility?
The mental hospital or the ed clinic? 🤍
@@SpicyLizard- the mental hospital :o
The bit about her hair being so much shorter has me shook! Wait, what?!? I get if she looked different w no makeup - but the hair thing is sticking out to me.
How many times do i have to say she's the one abusing her mom? I BET her mom has tried all of that all her life
Momster sucks for enabling her, for filming up her skirt for her ana pervs etc. With Ewwie being a complete narcissist I'm surprised she hasn't booted her from the house yet. They are both a disaster.🤍
If I caught someone even "allegedly" talking about the way I acted in rehab, I'd be very upset. If you haven't been, even if you had...regardless you don't talk about another's experience by NAME. You can't.
Um, yeah you can.
@@SpicyLizard- it's just nice that people don't. Yes we all know she's has as ED, but if someone told people how I acted during rehab...I'd be completely embarrassed. It's like alcohol anonymous. It's anonymous. Id love to say the incredible people I went to rehab with, but due to rules we could not mention other members names and problems. For Example: I can talk about the person who I went with who won a Nobel prize.
@katdujka4760 you know what would be really nice ? It would be nice if Ewwie didn't flash kids habitually to the point of being age restricted on TT. It would also be nice if she didn't cater to paying convicted p3d05 and ana fetishists while directly aiming her content at kids. It would also be nice if she hadn't laughed in the face of an aunt who confronted her about her niece's passing because the girl believed Ewwies lies. So, do you still want to talk about morals, common courtesy and basic human decency ? Have you said a single word to Ewwie about any of what she has done ? Have you spoken up just once on behalf of the children she poisons daily with her lies or are you here only to play white knight ?
@@SpicyLizard- I didn't read this but I'm not playing white knight.
@katdujka4760 You read it, and yes you are.
This sounds like a very accurate portrayal of EC...not personally knowing her of course but seems a legit persona compared to her portrayal on line. In other words, I can see it being 💯 true. Allegedly, of course.
me too.
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I remember the occasional person like this would come in during in patient ED treatment. Exactly like this, except the staff would all know them well because they would be in and out for years. It wouldnt suprise me if this was true with EC.
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Wait.... "Very short hair and very little makeup". She's never had short hair, her hair was never a wig or extensions. And you are allowed to have your makeup in ED treatment centers. I KNOW damned well she either took it to begin with or had her mom bring it in. I'm just not buying this.
@konniacosta5613 she did, she had very short bangs and the sides were short when she came back, go look.
As for wig or extensions, this vid proves you wrong
ua-cam.com/video/fHQC6Wiap4M/v-deo.htmlsi=CJPR5VZc5LRkdgNO All centers have different rules so you don't "know" what you think you do.
I get it. Everyone is fake and they only like you when you’re a certain way. It’s taxing, you want to die every day and she’s probably hoping one day soon she does. I’m sure she hates people. I’m kind of there myself.
Please get some help ok ?🤍
Great, now famous ppl will not going to want to try treatment because fellow residents won’t keep confidentiality. She should have made them write an NDA
@ArizonaBulgaria oh great now nobody will want to go because they have to put up with a bunch of ill mannered, selfish, self entitled a holes who think they're too good to treat others with some common decency. 🙄 Ewwie doesn't make the rules. Go sit down.
Famous people will be fine.
Anyone who's close to jeffree star, you can expect them to have this kind of entitlement and attitude. We saw it with Shane
@avabellaa true, but this was before she knew Jeffy
@@SpicyLizard- Oh crap. You're right. All these timelines. Haha!
@avabellaa 😂 They're all cut from the same trashy cloth though aren't they ? 🕸🤍🕸
Thank you👏
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