@@Hxvens I just noticed that now UA-cam takes forever to post a comment or reply to a comment that's why I had to reply again to see if it does add the replied comment
The thing I always find crazy is that you hear swearing and other 18 rated dialogue in the online game al the time. But we can not use those same words. How f ing ridiculous is that.
nobody is saying you cant use swear words, you just can't use them against other players. Who hurt you IRL that you need to curse at everyone who joins the lobby?
They're actually favouring cargo griefers😂I'm a grinder and I'd say I'm better than about 80% of players at sniping so whenever I get cargo griefed I pull out my trust heavy sniper mk 2 and spawn kill then. Now it seems if our cargo is destroyed we must just smile😁 and pretend nothing happened💀
I’m quite very happy that they’ll take care about people that cheats. Every time I hop online,I get teleported, spawned in the air or water, infinite phone ringing noise, it’s been totally ruining my experience.
Yea i hope they actually do it tho.. i use to not care but when these lame kids come in and grief in god mode yea that was it for me.. i cant tell u how many time i got griefed latley and the player was in god mode
They add the orbital cannon, a flying bike with homing missiles, flying car with homing missiles, shit loads of armored and weaponized vehicles or gear, and many years later get mad that these get used for griefing. The mindset over at Rockstar Games is a one of a kind.
All they needed to do was make adversary modes pay more than cayo. I never play public if I can help it because chaos is a natural sedative to the bored player
As a girl player one of the reasons I quit GTA was because I would get griefed constantly or other players would just stalk me in game once they found out I was actually a girl. I literally could not play the game sometimes. This change was way too late from Rockstar
kinda did listen tho, they know the game is an unplayable hellhole so they mitigated the basic issues with the game. you literally cant drive around in a public lobby. fuck the cargo you can do that in invite only, what is the point of grinding if i cant even cruise with the 3 million dollar car i did 5 heist to get?
@@slumpduck3339 So instead of balancing their broken game and removing the broken vehicles that enabled griefing in the first place they wanna ban people like me who wanna talk smack and own trash players on a criminal / murdering simulator. They made this mess themselves,they created the losers who grief bums like you,but instead of admitting it and fixing the actual problem they wanna ban people who just play good and do what GTA is and was always about. Being a freaking criminal and do whatever you want. Imagine playing an adult criminal simulator and telling people not to talk smack and not "grief" people when that was the whole point of GTA. If you want people to be peaceful in gta then give people the GTA IV treatment. Aka custom lobbies with friendly fire on or off. But who the hell wants to play GTA peacefully? Go play Minecraft or sims if you dont like violence or another "Criminal" smacking you in freemode cause he can and wants to. This whole thing is a joke.
>Ur just mad u Don't own a multi billion dollars company >Ur just mad u Don't own a multi billion dollars company >Ur just mad u Don't own a multi billion dollars company >Ur just mad u Don't own a multi billion dollars company
@SweatyTwat i mean griefing is quite out of hand in Gta these days, especially on Pc. it's better they start to set some ground rules and see how the community reacts, before the arrival of Gta 6. hopefully the latter will have a proper anti cheat and dedicated servers. those 2 things alone can make a huge difference in the amount of cheaters present.
As long as this doesn’t get outta hand & there is an understanding between killing & griefing. I get on GTA online for the chaos & to enjoy getting into it with ppl in public sessions quite a bit. Not hop on everyday & treat online like a 2nd day job & constantly repeat the same missions over & over.
if they follow through with banning griefers the only thing that I'll miss are the videos that some UA-camrs put out where they go after the griefers with usually hilarious results
It's really hard to police lobby fights, and I somehow doubt any player who gets cargo griefed would suffer any penalties for going after the person who blew up their shit as long as they're doing it with what the game gives you. I don't see how honestly, outside of high level players taking advantage of low level players not knowing how to use passive. I actually had to tell a lv 65 how to use passive mode because they were getting attacked repeatedly, rockstar should really make that a tooltip for new players so they know immediately how to avoid such situations.
I have a ton of friends that refused to play GTA Online. It's always the same story--they were level 1 and no one would even let them walk down the street. I remember first playing at the end of 2020, and during the tutorial I got pulled into a race. Everyone was at least 70 levels over me, and instead of racing, 2 guys just rammed me over and over again. That was literally my first interaction with the community. When I got to the actual game, I wanted to learn how to play and start making money, so I went to my cargo warehouse, picked up 1 crate and started a sale mission. I flew a plane to the desert, started fighting the NPC enemies and suddenly 3 griefers blew up my plane and killed me over and over again. Thing is, at level 1, you have a pistol and limited money (not to mention pitiful damage), so I ran out of bullets immediately and died about 20 times. If I didn't learn to get myself into a solo public session, I would've quit immediately.
The problem is this is still encouraged. Just messing around, and trolling people is banned instead? wtf I never mess with someone when they are selling something, but when they are putting around, it's all fun in games in my opinion.
@constitutionknwsbest Yeah, every once in a while I like to find a lobby of people flying their jets and joining in on the action. When a million GTA$ costs $20 real cash, only a simpleton is going to work for the reward of 2000 GTA$. I wish Rockstar would've implemented cargo theft. 50% of the goods could be considered damaged, so the thief gets 50% of what the seller would've made. With the current setup, it just forced new players out immediately or convinced them to spend real cash with Rockstar. People who shill for a billion-dollar corporation to earn $0.10 profit are pathetic.
yes its 18+ but theres always going to be children playing it. we all were at that point, playing games rated m for mature on the ps2, knowing we were too young to be playing gta san andreas
so what if kids are playing 18+ if it says 18+ on the game then game companies shouldn't sensor it then it's the kids fault for playing it and getting hurt over small stuff@@papiderpy
The main problem is still their mission design and game mechanics that encourage people to start fights and grief other players. The newer content has actively tried to stay away from that but Rockstar just refuses to address the older content where this is most prevalent.
The mission structure is definitely a problem with the online, but I see this less as a problem that'll be fixed, and sadly something that they probably won't touch upon until the next game, especially since these issues have been prevalent for so long now, why would they fix the older content now
someone griefs me, then when I respawn I'm in an unwanted "deathmatch" and my character stands aggressively ready to fight. I can't turn that off even by doing a thumbs up animation. grefed again within a minute. ok I find another session. brilliant.
Let’s be honest, they did listen and did at least allow you to sell in invite only or closed lobbies. Which is a huge life saver and a game changer. I rarely step foot in public lobbies now and the game is much more fun for me. I can solo grind and make 1-2 million per hour
@@SilentMovements305 Well there’s a difference between shooting and smacking each other to death, and getting constantly chased and bombarded by someone with a ridable jet engine
@Tito-qo6lp it's valid because they still have this stupid vehicle in the game. I would be 100% fine if they just deleted the vehicle completely. Use helicopters or jets. The Oppressor is too O.P its like trying smash a annoying mosquitoes that try to bother you for no reason.
This is good too here ive been called a N so many to just for driving past someone or defending my friends and i have no clue what actions to take after
A better solution could be change the way passive mod works. If on passive you can shot and make missions, but you couldn't damage or be damaged for other players, it'd solute this conflict forever.
That might almost work, I actually have to use a router program to session split when I have people griefing me while doing heist setups. What's the difference between going passive and having to swap sessions if you're just getting away from the people griefing anyhow?
They need to do something about delivering vehicles. Please put everything in one truck and not multiple for one damn package going to the same location
been playing since 360 these new rules are gonna kill the game they want they sharkcards so bad bro im also upset about griefing i can understand like killing low levels where they cant defend themselfs but just banning it all together will definity kill the game and that rule isnt gonna slide that far
Lol It'll only be ruined for toxic assholes who just wanna pick on people, I will be thoroughly enjoying my experience finally being able to drive or fly whatever vehicle I want without feeling like I'm in the middle of Afghanistan
@@topbrasstv8867 fo real I hope toxic teenagers with Opressors just would be banned. Steam said that I didn’t play GTAO since 2021. Oooo and the reason is veeery simple. It’s very boring and sad to play in the session alone, BUT I had no choice, because of opressors and griefers. I just deleted the game, because I was alone in the game, that was bought by 50.000.000 people. It’s strange. But it is. I hope that after this rules I should came back and play with normal bandits and robbers, but not with psychopaths that was divorced and decided to kill everybody
@@KarlDelaney99 no but if someone does kill you and your cargo and you retaliate by killing them that could get your account suspended or banned which is stupid, if R* are going to do something about basically promoting to griefing cargo they should make it so they get some sort of punishment for doing it, whether it is intentional or accidentally done
Would love to see an "anything goes" and "honor among criminals" option for lobbies when booting in. This way, if you want to drive backwards in a race, you can.
you still can. they never said that they will actually do something against such players. its just written in their guidelines that they can, if they would like to. (but they will not, because they never ever did anything at all.)
I would like to think of this as a stepping stone for what is next, rather than just making assumptions based on "past" "patterns". Even though the assumptions are pretty realistic and understandable. However, if we try to keep an open mind and be a little optimistic, this could possibly be a step in the right direction to prevent from making the same mistake(s) in GTA 6's online mode. Just something to think about yk?.
It's GRAND THEFT AUTO what is there to think about? This is the most successful video game ever made because of the free will one has in the game. Now marshmallows want it to be what it is simply not. If you don't like the toxic environment go play Minecraft period. This game franchise was built on degeneracy and people love it
There is no way rockstar can enforce the griefing in a sustainable way LOL. Cracking down on cheaters i'm fine with, but enforcing griefing... where do you draw the line? you can't crack down on that with full on bans, it's gonna be a huge mess.
I was arrested after getting into an argument with someone on GTA Online. I said someone was fat after they grieved me. He said that he did not understand why I knew he was fat and claimed I was a stalker. I was pulled over in my new Corvette and was arrested and tased, and then was sentenced to 9 months in jail for resisting arrest, eluding the cops with a sports car, and harassment with intent to afflict bodily harm to a fat person. It is illegal to say someone is fat and use 500 horsepower. I encourage everyone to never argue in GTA Online and drive a Coquette or you will spend the rest of your life incarcerated due to America's authoritarian dictatorship.
u can kill them once for it but repeatedly is a lil excessive...im guessing if yall both killing each other after that then its okay...one sided deaths over and over is annoying especially if u not trying to fight back.
If I destroyed someone's cargo, of which they put hours and hours of real time into grinding to get, hours of progress is gone I would not expect them to kill once and move on satisfied, destroying someone's cargo is 1000x more annoying than spawn killing lol@@marquisewells9099
nahh i dont think so, its a system put in place to where they check the kill counts of both players. that would be the most logical. they can clearly see if you got killed multiple times by the same guy without retaliation, or if ur the one doing the killing.
I can already see how this will backfire. Some level 1 will attack someone and then report that same person as soon as they kill the level 1 for griefing.
They purposefully encourage players to screw each other over by giving rewards for attacking cargo and sales missions, but at the same time claim they will punish people for it, but at the same time, not punish people for attacking cargo? Like how does this make any sense? I almost always play solo but this is ridiculous
Im a solo player too but im so tired of every game adding these types of rules, it's 18+ for a reason, if kids play it it's the parents fault and that's not the games responsibility, didn't all the npc characters already break the hate speech rules they just implemented btw? Shits just dumb
TGG you should start playing this really small game almost nobody knows about, but I feel it could make for some good content. The game is GTA 5 Online. It's a really small indie game but it's kinda cool and I think more people should know about it.
this has backwards bs written all over it but then again the players have legit 0 clue what the difference between griefing and casual pvp is so I'm curious to see if Rockstar actually enforces this
The better Solution is to create extra lobbies where players Can't kill each other. You can use that in options > online > "find friendly lobby" or Something like that. I Think this is a better Solution. Edit: Also, they should do COOP based events & dailies in free lobbies where you can't Damage & kill players that take part on this events/dailies, even as someone who Doesn't take part of this dailies/events.
Exactly. That's what Zenimax and Bethesda did with Elder Scrolls Online and it works. There are areas specifically for PVP and PVE, however they should do lobbies where you can't attack or kill one another, and lobbies that are just lawless hellscapes of jets, tanks, and machine gun toting degenerates. Would make the game so much better.
I've always thought this was an excellent idea. The only way I could imagine something like this working is like making everyone a ghost, because Rockstar is definitely too lazy to give people and their vehicles invincibility. To balance it though I'd imagine they'd make Business unavailable or unsellable since that would really break the game if we could all just boost our sale profits without any risk
I grew up playing BO2 and heard just about every manner of horrible things said to me and I never cared and you know why? It's a video game grown man upset about mean words pathetic. And this is coming from Rockstar I guess they're allowed to be offensive but not their players. Hippocrates.
I figured changes were on the way when a couple weeks ago I had to reagree to the terms of service/privacy/community guidelines before it would let me load online for either of my accounts, then I had to agree again to access social club.
I love how they’re doing all these things now hoping people don’t realize it’s just pr stunts to try and grow community faith so more people will buy gta 6… they could give a F about the play experience.. perfect example being the rapid fire bug they never fixed since launch over 10 years ago
What qualifies as spawn killing in pvp is gonna be a blurry line that causes problems for people I think. Like if you're pvping someone and kill them back to back before they spawn something or kill you back, is that spawn killing? It probably will be when they don't like it and hit report 😂
exactly... it's subjective. Anyone can at any time feel like they're being grief'd and report you. The ppl complaing about griefing really shot themselves in the foot with this one
The game tells you you’re going the wrong way in races, can tell how many times you kill someone (going 40 and 7 with someone makes it pretty clear you’re griefing them)
@@bandit3019If they get killed 40-7, then it could just mean the other person is way better than them at fighting and could be banned for being skilled.
I wouldn't worry too much. Though it does feel like R* is just hiring RP lobby moderators to be their support staff lol. "You said a bad woooooord, 6 hour ban". One report for "griefing" is highly unlikely to be acted upon. I mean, R* can't even be bothered to fix the damn headlight on the Aleutian for crying out loud.
Didn't they buy FiveM or something? I'm pretty sure they also have hired server moderators. Just not the good ones, but the most entitled mods and admins imaginable.
Worse and more noticeable than the headlight, the dang back right sail window on the vigero zx convertible that won’t go down and can’t even be broken to get rid of it. I loved how there “solution” was to make it the only convertible that you can’t lower the top and park in your garage, the top automatically goes back up to cover the fact the window doesn’t work 🤦🏻♂️
Tbh I hate how Rockstar came out with these community guidelines over 9 years after GTA V Online was introduced, when griefers were consistently killing other players/engaging in unsporting behavior, and only NOW after announcing GTA 6 do they decide to do something that’s been a problem for nearly a decade in a game that could have been more fun for players all this time. Good job Rockstar. Well done 😑
I think they are doing this because a lot of people don't play GTA5 online now because of the griefing problem. They want to experiment with changing the rules to see if it actually helps attract players or at least doesn't repel existing players. They want to solve the problem before GTA6 Online is released so they can maximise the number of people who play it.
The real reason why i dont touch gta online anymore are the dangerous mod menus who can read out your IP and can take control of your entire PC in a whimp. Rockstar should take care of those menus to let them vanish forever. And that should be easy for them for how many and good lawyers they have.
bad thing about the ingame reporting tool is that some modders can actually block the outgoing message towards rockstar, since its controlled by the session you are in, which modders can easily cut off. It happened mutliple times, that the moment i reported a modder my game crashed. Not a moment later, the moment I hit submit, even when the modder was completly occupied with bullying someone else on the other side of the map
they where encouraging players to kill eachother and blow up rival business operations, and what about all the weapons zed vehicles they sell specifically for greifing. gta6 is about to be mid asf
they are basically saying that someone is allowed to blow up my cargo but I'm not allowed to retaliate becouse that would make it an unsafe gaming environment. lmfao if you blow me up ima make you leave the game
yup can definitely see someone getting banned for protecting themselves from griefers lmao this generation of gaming is so cooked gta 6 online will be so bad we already know it
you can kill someone who is trying to destroy your cargo bro, but the problem comes when you throw a tantrum and spawn kill them. why are all the baffoons commenting omd
@@Comatosedpeanut Toxic response is not justified. In the real world, you can change the situation from self defense to assault just by going too far past the point of danger. It is a child's response, not that of a mature adult.
@@oranzbowl Why are all the toxic kids (you) laughing when the cargo explodes, and crying when they get a little favor in return? I just gotta know...since we're being petty here. How many steps do I have to watch you take through the sniper scope, before Im allowed to pull the trigger? 5? It's not at spawn kill. You spawned and walked 5 steps xD
Yeah imma continue what I do and if I get banned I’ll just never play any game by Rockstar again. They already censored themselves by removing NPC’s, and the departure of Houser and the OG’s will eventually lead to it’s downfall anyway. Luckily they seem to have worked on VI.
why they should ban anyone for modding, cheating or greafing? they just changed their guidelines. they never actually talked about do something against it. its just not allowed. since ther is no control of anything you can still do whatever you want.
@@kennythemeat modding and all that sure if it’s toxic, but spawn-killing in a pvp game? PvP isn’t what it’s focused on but still, this is why passive mode exists, or just switching sessions. If anything the devs should implement a better spawn system instead of letting the players pay for Rockstar’s mistakes.
Facts!! Instead of catering to kids they should be banning them. I'd bet 90% of griefers are kids that shouldn't even be allowed on the game. Ban all under 18 and the game would be 10x better 💯
And it never was so bad to what you need to be monitored like this. And this doesn't even solve the actual problem. Because people are still going to blow up your cargo and you can't retaliate because if you spawn kills somebody, you have a chance to being banned.
They could address the backwards racing with a togglable setting in the race setting, no need to 'remove privilages' whatever that means. Let the race host decide if they want that or not
Grief hours of work in cargo for like 2k fine. Pvp kill people rapidly assaulting them the second they spawn in a sandbox type game...rockstar is utterly ridiculous
Brutal. Gotta protect every one's feelings while they're playing a game about becoming a high ranking drug overlord, murderer, police fighting, GRAND THEFT AUTO professional, under the table reconnaissance and militia, anarchy creating, tax avoiding criminal who is affiliated or at war with all the other gangs and chapters in town.
@@gertytk5528oh please don't talk about that country which puts out heavily sexualized animes every year, a girl boy sleeping in a bed something different happens other day censors these scenes, irony dies like 4000 times, except some worthful animes, they are too cringe
For those that don't know, Rockstar games has been working to track gamers and turn them over to the DOJ since 2019.(If your country has extraction clauses with the US, that includes you too.)
Good, I'm tired of having my safety threatened by wannabe thugs for simply defending myself in a videogame, three times I've had people try and kill me and when I kill them back too much they get mad and start looking up my address and shit. Maybe those people don't deserve to be playing videogames in the first place and should be in a cell.
@topbrasstv8867 you're only comments on this page started this week and are only to promote this. Can we all say Rockstar bot together, TGG fam? If you are afraid to play GTA, they have games like fortnite for your age group.
@topbrasstv8867 I don't believe anyone is tra king you down. While it certainly can be done, the majority of gamers don't have the means to do that. I use to track peolle for the DOD for 6 years as a US contractor, it wasn't easy.
As much as griefing was bad, it’s a core part of the game, you gotta be smart with your sells and doing things in big lobbies, the only griefing that’s pissy is griefing low levels. This implement has made gta slowly a shell of itself, especially when we lost in game lobby voice chat
Remember griefing is subjective, so anyone can report you if the feel like they're being grief'd. In saying that, any YTer that makes a video with any sort of PvP like anti-griefer content should in theory be banned as the other person is technically being grief'd. This is sort of how TheProfessional does his anti-griefer videos ie. spawn killing the griefer in a 10v1, the original griefer could technically report TheProffesional for griefing. See the fine line with these new griefing guidliness, it's subjective. I guess the grinder community got what they wanted, but shot themselves in the foot at the same time.
@@aceholepicturesit’s not for you, It’s mostly for the brand new players (gtav is on the rise thanks to the announcement of 6) and no one wants to get spawn killed by an 8000. Many people quit because of it and rockstar wants to ride the wave of new players to make more money. Think with your head.
The reason you grind is to become the level 400 that griefed you at the beginning. So satisfying to earn the orbital cannon and use it on a griefer(8000 is exploit glitching)@@bandit3019
In theory R* could take the subjective part out by clearly defining what counts as griefing. But rn it’s just a circus because they gave a vague definition and 3 examples so it’s anyone’s guess what is and what isn’t allowed
They should just make lobbys with different rules. Make a lobby with no police, no explosives, or flying vehicles for example. Ppl want to play in different ways
It’s 2024. Everyone’s a pussy. You hurt their feelings you lose your account. Their feelings are more important than your money because their feelings are what boosts the company’s ESG score which influences the right investors and media talking heads which far outweighs your contribution.
for me, I agree with discouraging people from spawn killing. like there are lots of times where I am just minding my own business, but some person starts grieving and spawn-camping for no reason. it can be real annoying to try and deal with it or trying to move to a different server (you need to be alive to go into options to be able to change server).
Players can only be spawn killed if they allow it with passive & ghost options available on the respawn screen. If you don't use these features it's your own fault & not griefing.
i actually dont know, public lobbies were ruined when modders became a thing and made the pvp unfair, and invite only is still fun. get a good amount of ingame friends to join you so you all can dick around and not worry about getting reported
No one said you can’t Mf it’s like you only listened to what he was theorizing about it… they said you can’t just sit there and spawn kill, going 40 and 10 (I’ve seen it happen and done it) is overboard, since getting killed pulls you out of the menu for some god forsaken reason
@@bandit3019 Bruh. Once, I killed my nemesis again and agaian and again bcz he ruined my sale mission for night club when it was on double money. And I know that TGG said that I can't just camp and spawn kill a person now. I'm a sadist by nature, my friends say, that I love the sweet smell of revenge. It's like f*ck with me, Imma f*ck with you, but I'm also very loyal to other peeps though, if I'm feeling happy, I also help others deliver their product by guarding them with my oppressor. I'm just like Trevor Philips (in game ofc, irl, I'm just a normal Doctor, but in game - I can be toxic as hell 😂 jk), also, hope so you have a nice day ahead, bruh!
I think rockstar should just add a new type of lobby where players can’t attack each other or their vehicles, but can still do missions and attack npcs
@@121Greenthumb Invite only it does not allow you to meet new players or find other players to do missions with. That is the point. Just like other games have lobbies where players cant harm each other. It encourages co-op play, and veteran players love helping new players in games like that. More new players would keep playing. There are LOTS of us who would love a "Friendly" lobby. A PVP only lobby and a "Friendly" lobby would solve this whole issue. People in invite only lobbies 9 out of 10 times are there because they got griefed out of a public.
I wish there was no bonus for doing deliveries in public servers + the insentive for destroying someone elses cargo. It is never enjoyable to lose hours of work.
Rockstar just didn't want to handle cheating on PC, and regulated some bulls*** that's not effective on prohibiting bad behaviors. Even some rules are weird.
Well glad I stopped playing then. What's the point of having a high demand bonus for selling a public session if there is no risk? It also completeley ruins PVP in this game because at what point does it become griefing? If I'm better than my opponent? Like, who moderates this? AI? If so, this'll lead to a ton of false bans.
@Sly2BandOfThievesIsTheBestSly I did watch the video, but you clearly don't understand my comment. A lot of people will fear getting falsely banned for griefing and stop doing it. This is a pointless change.
@@Sly2BandOfThievesIsTheBestSly you clearly don’t think then huh? In pvp you can spawnkill your enemy and whats stopping that enemy from reporting you as you are “spawnkilling”
Im a legit lvl 1005 grinder. And I always sell in full lobbies, both for the extra cash and the thrill. It's also lore accuratte, we are criminals moving goods in a territory disputed by other gangbangers and kingpins, so I unserstand why it could be considered "not griefing". Also close your app the moment an attack is inminent if you wanna keep your goods 🤷♂️
This has to be the stupidest thing tbeyve done... They allow others to blow up your cargo which could be worth millions for basically nothing but you can't fight back and kill them for ruining your shit? Like come on dude. What's even funnier is that this is a gta game lmao, can't believe killing other players is now a bannable offense. Massive L move from Rockstar here
Bro, so Jimmy the character from campaign is banned from his own game? And if you don't follow the rules as a criminal in a video game, you get punished? So, I'm seeing the reason why the founders of Rockstar Games left.
So, blowing up cargo is still allowed, but driving the wrong way in races & spawn killing is against the rules. This is uhh, interesting...
It really is
finally some good news
Banned speedrun new meta 💀
it makes zero sense
Yeah blowing up cargo is an option that rockstar can approvejjjj
Rockstar late by 4 / 5 days. April fools has already passed.
**I WOKE UP IN A NEW BUGATTI**
Lol I wish it was a April fools joke but one of my friends got banned for 3 or 7 days for griefing just recently
@@ThemeParkSoCal u just said that
@@admsg6404*I WOKE UP IN A NEW ADDER*
@@Hxvens I just noticed that now UA-cam takes forever to post a comment or reply to a comment that's why I had to reply again to see if it does add the replied comment
Los Santos is about to become the Garden of Eden with how humble everyone is gonna be now 😂
Rockstar getting their shit together
@@EricPlayzGames just say you want the game to be boring with everyone holding hands and holding peace signs🤣
@@sidthekid1170 griefing is annoying and ruins the experience of the game bro
@@sidthekid1170Griefing during sale missions was cancer
@@sidthekid1170 go play cod if u want pvp
The thing I always find crazy is that you hear swearing and other 18 rated dialogue in the online game al the time. But we can not use those same words. How f ing ridiculous is that.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING
Whatsup my politically incorrect racial epiphets? Is still allowed though
100% correct
nobody is saying you cant use swear words, you just can't use them against other players. Who hurt you IRL that you need to curse at everyone who joins the lobby?
@@dox42o now ur just making assumptions.
They reward you for blowing up somebody else's cargo but they're banning griefing? It seems that they're contradicting themselves here.
Truly a Rockstar moment.
They're actually favouring cargo griefers😂I'm a grinder and I'd say I'm better than about 80% of players at sniping so whenever I get cargo griefed I pull out my trust heavy sniper mk 2 and spawn kill then. Now it seems if our cargo is destroyed we must just smile😁 and pretend nothing happened💀
yeah thats the point. Dont act like a asshole to someone just playing the game.... @@Tom-wr6mq
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Rockstar logic 101
I’m quite very happy that they’ll take care about people that cheats. Every time I hop online,I get teleported, spawned in the air or water, infinite phone ringing noise, it’s been totally ruining my experience.
That will not stop, u cant get a cheater without a anticheat
I'm gonna say the thing we all thinking
This 10 years too late
Yea i hope they actually do it tho.. i use to not care but when these lame kids come in and grief in god mode yea that was it for me.. i cant tell u how many time i got griefed latley and the player was in god mode
Getting ready for gta6
They’re just preparing for gta 6 online
Seems you didn't watch the video cus REAL griefing is still gonna be a thing
@@TsmTye84 how about you use a solo session instead of crying ?
They add the orbital cannon, a flying bike with homing missiles, flying car with homing missiles, shit loads of armored and weaponized vehicles or gear, and many years later get mad that these get used for griefing. The mindset over at Rockstar Games is a one of a kind.
You forgot something, imani tech vehicles for self defense without any effort
@@Ariffin958all it does is block lock on
All they needed to do was make adversary modes pay more than cayo. I never play public if I can help it because chaos is a natural sedative to the bored player
Used for missions
@@easymoneyradyou cant use any of them in missions. Except the vigilante
"Players voted for your participation removal due to your lack of GG's in chat."
So, if another player blows me up while doing a sale, I won't lose stock?
What, no? Yeah, I didn't think so 😅
Close the game and you won't lose much 😂
Sell in private. It's already available in the game.
@chuihoi1423 Yup, already do. Started selling in Private sessions when submarines and airliners always fell from the sky when I was doing a sale! 😂
@@CaporegimeMarcus just close the game nice and quick bro haha. The bonus you get online is insane
@@BobbyDaz still not worth the hassle and waste of time.
"Griefing and Cheating is no longer accepted" - SO IT WAS ACCEPTED BEFORE?! It all make sense now
“No, it damn well doesn’t.”
- Micah Bell 1899
Griefing maybe, cheating is harder to moderate because that’s only possible on PC.
@@lixianrieperquoting Micah. Typical beta move
@@PotentialGrimI’ve seen cheaters in ps5. Godmode cars and level 8000 and teleporting
@@PotentialGrim modmenus have been on consoles for a while now, they're just not as common as PC
As a girl player one of the reasons I quit GTA was because I would get griefed constantly or other players would just stalk me in game once they found out I was actually a girl. I literally could not play the game sometimes. This change was way too late from Rockstar
Do cayo perico and sell missions and buy anti griefer/ griefer vehicles to stop them.
Go on to an invite only sessions that's what I do, occasionally go on a public ses but boy oh boy it can be a baptism of fire its insane 😂
>”positive gaming experience for everyone”
>M rated game
>atleast 10 years late
>doesn’t listen to the community
kinda did listen tho, they know the game is an unplayable hellhole so they mitigated the basic issues with the game. you literally cant drive around in a public lobby. fuck the cargo you can do that in invite only, what is the point of grinding if i cant even cruise with the 3 million dollar car i did 5 heist to get?
@@slumpduck3339 So instead of balancing their broken game and removing the broken vehicles that enabled griefing in the first place they wanna ban people like me who wanna talk smack and own trash players on a criminal / murdering simulator. They made this mess themselves,they created the losers who grief bums like you,but instead of admitting it and fixing the actual problem they wanna ban people who just play good and do what GTA is and was always about. Being a freaking criminal and do whatever you want. Imagine playing an adult criminal simulator and telling people not to talk smack and not "grief" people when that was the whole point of GTA. If you want people to be peaceful in gta then give people the GTA IV treatment. Aka custom lobbies with friendly fire on or off. But who the hell wants to play GTA peacefully? Go play Minecraft or sims if you dont like violence or another "Criminal" smacking you in freemode cause he can and wants to. This whole thing is a joke.
>Ur just mad u Don't own a multi billion dollars company
>Ur just mad u Don't own a multi billion dollars company
>Ur just mad u Don't own a multi billion dollars company
>Ur just mad u Don't own a multi billion dollars company
@@basixfullg9004L comment
@@noahgaming4845 you typed a whole paragraph tryna defend a 10 year old game grow tf up 😂
In my whole life I never thought that gta is banning grieving 😮
@SweatyTwat i mean griefing is quite out of hand in Gta these days, especially on Pc. it's better they start to set some ground rules and see how the community reacts, before the arrival of Gta 6. hopefully the latter will have a proper anti cheat and dedicated servers. those 2 things alone can make a huge difference in the amount of cheaters present.
Yes i grieve all the time when i play
@SweatyTwatMy thoughts exactly, another company gone woke. they want to ban normal players now. no point buying gta6. Go Woke - Go Broke
@@Howdy671 I really hope you're wrong and gta 6 does us proud, but I will be waiting for a before you buy most likely
I thought that was why we had bad sport lobbies
As long as this doesn’t get outta hand & there is an understanding between killing & griefing. I get on GTA online for the chaos & to enjoy getting into it with ppl in public sessions quite a bit. Not hop on everyday & treat online like a 2nd day job & constantly repeat the same missions over & over.
if they follow through with banning griefers the only thing that I'll miss are the videos that some UA-camrs put out where they go after the griefers with usually hilarious results
Same here, for example Putther.
I got banned for killing a griefer over and over when he kept blowing up other peoples cargo guess going after Griefers is over
@@wavenslayer6096 Were you using a menu?
Ill miss griefing montages
@@shadowspringtrap3122I like watching nitrix warlord.
100% this is going to result in griefers abusing the system to get legitimate players in trouble.
It's really hard to police lobby fights, and I somehow doubt any player who gets cargo griefed would suffer any penalties for going after the person who blew up their shit as long as they're doing it with what the game gives you.
I don't see how honestly, outside of high level players taking advantage of low level players not knowing how to use passive.
I actually had to tell a lv 65 how to use passive mode because they were getting attacked repeatedly, rockstar should really make that a tooltip for new players so they know immediately how to avoid such situations.
Thank God I only play Invite only or Friend only lobbies now.
1000% they're all weirdos
1:23 this is the most beautiful, crisp voice crack i've ever heard
I have a ton of friends that refused to play GTA Online. It's always the same story--they were level 1 and no one would even let them walk down the street. I remember first playing at the end of 2020, and during the tutorial I got pulled into a race. Everyone was at least 70 levels over me, and instead of racing, 2 guys just rammed me over and over again. That was literally my first interaction with the community. When I got to the actual game, I wanted to learn how to play and start making money, so I went to my cargo warehouse, picked up 1 crate and started a sale mission. I flew a plane to the desert, started fighting the NPC enemies and suddenly 3 griefers blew up my plane and killed me over and over again. Thing is, at level 1, you have a pistol and limited money (not to mention pitiful damage), so I ran out of bullets immediately and died about 20 times.
If I didn't learn to get myself into a solo public session, I would've quit immediately.
The problem is this is still encouraged. Just messing around, and trolling people is banned instead? wtf I never mess with someone when they are selling something, but when they are putting around, it's all fun in games in my opinion.
People like that have issues 😕
Same thing happened to me. I just sat there and they killed me over and over.
You gay
@eaT_buLLetsSss Oh no! How do I live after being burned so badly by a teenager?! I will never financially recover!
@constitutionknwsbest Yeah, every once in a while I like to find a lobby of people flying their jets and joining in on the action. When a million GTA$ costs $20 real cash, only a simpleton is going to work for the reward of 2000 GTA$. I wish Rockstar would've implemented cargo theft. 50% of the goods could be considered damaged, so the thief gets 50% of what the seller would've made.
With the current setup, it just forced new players out immediately or convinced them to spend real cash with Rockstar. People who shill for a billion-dollar corporation to earn $0.10 profit are pathetic.
I'm tired of 18+ rated games moderating them like it's a game made for 3 year olds
yes its 18+ but theres always going to be children playing it. we all were at that point, playing games rated m for mature on the ps2, knowing we were too young to be playing gta san andreas
so what if kids are playing 18+ if it says 18+ on the game then game companies shouldn't sensor it then it's the kids fault for playing it and getting hurt over small stuff@@papiderpy
18+ doest mean you can say and do what you want.... @@DarkSoul-pb6dv
It has to be moderated due to bad parenting and little kids stil somehow getting their grubby hands the game, leading to griefing players and cheaters
@@DarkSoul-pb6dv bro getting bullied harassed and stocked are not small things
(News flash)
"Game meant for grown men will now start monitoring it like it's meant for children".
𝙸𝙺𝚁!!
The main problem is still their mission design and game mechanics that encourage people to start fights and grief other players. The newer content has actively tried to stay away from that but Rockstar just refuses to address the older content where this is most prevalent.
This is a very good point, we have two separate eras of GTA online in mutual existence with one another and it's causing problems.
The mission structure is definitely a problem with the online, but I see this less as a problem that'll be fixed, and sadly something that they probably won't touch upon until the next game, especially since these issues have been prevalent for so long now, why would they fix the older content now
someone griefs me, then when I respawn I'm in an unwanted "deathmatch" and my character stands aggressively ready to fight. I can't turn that off even by doing a thumbs up animation. grefed again within a minute. ok I find another session. brilliant.
Let’s be honest, they did listen and did at least allow you to sell in invite only or closed lobbies. Which is a huge life saver and a game changer. I rarely step foot in public lobbies now and the game is much more fun for me. I can solo grind and make 1-2 million per hour
Rockstar is the only gaming company to create a violent game and say no violence allowed
Nahhh, Oppressor users are something else so this is valid.
@Tito-qo6lp na ots a violent game if its to much folks shouldn't be playing it
@@SilentMovements305 Seems like you missed the point of what "grieving" is
@@SilentMovements305 Well there’s a difference between shooting and smacking each other to death, and getting constantly chased and bombarded by someone with a ridable jet engine
@Tito-qo6lp it's valid because they still have this stupid vehicle in the game. I would be 100% fine if they just deleted the vehicle completely. Use helicopters or jets. The Oppressor is too O.P its like trying smash a annoying mosquitoes that try to bother you for no reason.
This is good too here ive been called a N so many to just for driving past someone or defending my friends and i have no clue what actions to take after
You are
@@DefundtheIRS1776 🤣🤣🤣
A better solution could be change the way passive mod works. If on passive you can shot and make missions, but you couldn't damage or be damaged for other players, it'd solute this conflict forever.
That might almost work, I actually have to use a router program to session split when I have people griefing me while doing heist setups.
What's the difference between going passive and having to swap sessions if you're just getting away from the people griefing anyhow?
They need to do something about delivering vehicles. Please put everything in one truck and not multiple for one damn package going to the same location
Or at least have a set list of car options that can do at least 100mph I will change lobbies as soon as I see the delivery toasters
been playing since 360 these new rules are gonna kill the game they want they sharkcards so bad bro im also upset about griefing i can understand like killing low levels where they cant defend themselfs but just banning it all together will definity kill the game and that rule isnt gonna slide that far
Lol It'll only be ruined for toxic assholes who just wanna pick on people, I will be thoroughly enjoying my experience finally being able to drive or fly whatever vehicle I want without feeling like I'm in the middle of Afghanistan
@@topbrasstv8867 tru tru
@@topbrasstv8867 fo real I hope toxic teenagers with Opressors just would be banned. Steam said that I didn’t play GTAO since 2021.
Oooo and the reason is veeery simple. It’s very boring and sad to play in the session alone, BUT I had no choice, because of opressors and griefers. I just deleted the game, because I was alone in the game, that was bought by 50.000.000 people. It’s strange. But it is.
I hope that after this rules I should came back and play with normal bandits and robbers, but not with psychopaths that was divorced and decided to kill everybody
Griefing banned? 😂 seems like GTA banning GTA.
Must be all you do then
Greifing is something everybody complains about but if it was gone what would be the point of doing sell missions in public sessions
LOL 😂
@@TheRealSteveHarveyPopularity Bonuses
It's a good thing I'm glad now it's back to normal and it is annoying
They put money reward for destroying people's cargo mission how is this not griefing?
That's not mentioned there. It's talking about spawn killing etc
it's getting at the clowns who straight up follow you the entire session
you know who they mean
@@obinator9065loser
Exactly they promote griefing yet they're now saying "You can't grief" fkn hypocrites.
@@KarlDelaney99 no but if someone does kill you and your cargo and you retaliate by killing them that could get your account suspended or banned which is stupid, if R* are going to do something about basically promoting to griefing cargo they should make it so they get some sort of punishment for doing it, whether it is intentional or accidentally done
Rockstar incentivizes griefing & has everything offensive imaginable in their story.
Now banning people for griefing & being offensive.
What in the story is offensive
Don't you love how you can't swear or insult people in an 18+
Mature is not an 18+ they are two different things
@@bandit3019 it's got 18+ wrote in big red letters on the box
To be fair, the average age of GTA Online playerbase is probably under 18. Tho that’s mainly the fault of parents
But.. the little kids! We have to protect them!
@@antonyparkinson381 It probably varies by region, here in the states M is 17+. There's an AO rating for adults but you basically never see it.
Would love to see an "anything goes" and "honor among criminals" option for lobbies when booting in. This way, if you want to drive backwards in a race, you can.
Why do you guys love ruining races?
This the best suggestion yet
It's pretty much just like PvP and PvE. Definitely should be like this.
you still can. they never said that they will actually do something against such players. its just written in their guidelines that they can, if they would like to. (but they will not, because they never ever did anything at all.)
"anything goes"
Bad sport.
I would like to think of this as a stepping stone for what is next, rather than just making assumptions based on "past" "patterns". Even though the assumptions are pretty realistic and understandable. However, if we try to keep an open mind and be a little optimistic, this could possibly be a step in the right direction to prevent from making the same mistake(s) in GTA 6's online mode. Just something to think about yk?.
It's GRAND THEFT AUTO what is there to think about? This is the most successful video game ever made because of the free will one has in the game. Now marshmallows want it to be what it is simply not. If you don't like the toxic environment go play Minecraft period. This game franchise was built on degeneracy and people love it
Lmao imagine the bad sport lobbies, all playing tennis or golf with each other now, even arm wrestling lololol.
😂😂
Bro im scared for gta 6, its gonna be a fairy tales game😭
There is no way rockstar can enforce the griefing in a sustainable way LOL. Cracking down on cheaters i'm fine with, but enforcing griefing... where do you draw the line? you can't crack down on that with full on bans, it's gonna be a huge mess.
Yes they can. It's called pvp/pve rooms. I do t know why they won't implement this.
They will be banning a lot of innocent players because they are not going to be thoroughly investigating most reports.
I was arrested after getting into an argument with someone on GTA Online. I said someone was fat after they grieved me. He said that he did not understand why I knew he was fat and claimed I was a stalker. I was pulled over in my new Corvette and was arrested and tased, and then was sentenced to 9 months in jail for resisting arrest, eluding the cops with a sports car, and harassment with intent to afflict bodily harm to a fat person. It is illegal to say someone is fat and use 500 horsepower. I encourage everyone to never argue in GTA Online and drive a Coquette or you will spend the rest of your life incarcerated due to America's authoritarian dictatorship.
So now you’re not allowed to defend yourself after getting your cargo destroyed, good job rockstar REAL good job.
Yep now they can report you for “spawnkilling” them and get your account banned
u can kill them once for it but repeatedly is a lil excessive...im guessing if yall both killing each other after that then its okay...one sided deaths over and over is annoying especially if u not trying to fight back.
If I destroyed someone's cargo, of which they put hours and hours of real time into grinding to get, hours of progress is gone I would not expect them to kill once and move on satisfied, destroying someone's cargo is 1000x more annoying than spawn killing lol@@marquisewells9099
@@marquisewells9099 eh well actually nope because one dude can just report the other and boom account ban
nahh i dont think so, its a system put in place to where they check the kill counts of both players. that would be the most logical. they can clearly see if you got killed multiple times by the same guy without retaliation, or if ur the one doing the killing.
driving the wrong in a race with friends is part of the fun sometimes
tbf, it's guided more towards doing it to randoms. you're friends aren't going to report you for doing that.
It's for random match
even so who cares. its not a racing simulator.... @@suhaybmir7773
Sometimes you just gotta go where the wind takes you.
I can already see how this will backfire. Some level 1 will attack someone and then report that same person as soon as they kill the level 1 for griefing.
They purposefully encourage players to screw each other over by giving rewards for attacking cargo and sales missions, but at the same time claim they will punish people for it, but at the same time, not punish people for attacking cargo? Like how does this make any sense? I almost always play solo but this is ridiculous
Im a solo player too but im so tired of every game adding these types of rules, it's 18+ for a reason, if kids play it it's the parents fault and that's not the games responsibility, didn't all the npc characters already break the hate speech rules they just implemented btw? Shits just dumb
@@sawmaanbina2102 agreed
Don forget Expanded and Enhanced Trialer, they showed deluxos blowing up that plane. They glorify griefing and make it easy!
Fax bro, like $ 2000 is a reward for griefing too 😂
Isnt that a heist setup or are you talking about something else?
@@omglol8425it is. It’s part of the Facility heists
@@omglol8425it was the one outside of the casino. That trailer had 250k 👎
TGG you should start playing this really small game almost nobody knows about, but I feel it could make for some good content. The game is GTA 5 Online. It's a really small indie game but it's kinda cool and I think more people should know about it.
Sounds like all the stuff characters do in the GTA 5 Story Mode… can’t be done in GTA Online now.
this has backwards bs written all over it but then again the players have legit 0 clue what the difference between griefing and casual pvp is so I'm curious to see if Rockstar actually enforces this
Rockstar can take their game, and stick it where the sun doesn't shine! I WILL DO AS I ALWAYS DO!
There is a setting in the Open Wheel races that makes you non-contact if you go backwards. They need to implement this functionality for all races.
The better Solution is to create extra lobbies where players Can't kill each other. You can use that in options > online > "find friendly lobby" or Something like that. I Think this is a better Solution.
Edit: Also, they should do COOP based events & dailies in free lobbies where you can't Damage & kill players that take part on this events/dailies, even as someone who Doesn't take part of this dailies/events.
Exactly. That's what Zenimax and Bethesda did with Elder Scrolls Online and it works. There are areas specifically for PVP and PVE, however they should do lobbies where you can't attack or kill one another, and lobbies that are just lawless hellscapes of jets, tanks, and machine gun toting degenerates. Would make the game so much better.
I've always thought this was an excellent idea. The only way I could imagine something like this working is like making everyone a ghost, because Rockstar is definitely too lazy to give people and their vehicles invincibility. To balance it though I'd imagine they'd make Business unavailable or unsellable since that would really break the game if we could all just boost our sale profits without any risk
Good ideas. It's not rocket science, is it?
@@_formallyhappy or just remove the business sale bonus from non-PVP public lobbies so it's like running sales in a solo session.
@@caiuscosades1791 fair enough that would work, but knowing Rockstar they wouldn't. Who knows though, maybe after another ten years right?
I grew up playing BO2 and heard just about every manner of horrible things said to me and I never cared and you know why? It's a video game grown man upset about mean words pathetic.
And this is coming from Rockstar I guess they're allowed to be offensive but not their players.
Hippocrates.
I think this is a sign of what’s to come in GTA6. It’s pointing towards many things.
Very worrying
this is the kind of stuff that gives me no confidence in gta 6
I figured changes were on the way when a couple weeks ago I had to reagree to the terms of service/privacy/community guidelines before it would let me load online for either of my accounts, then I had to agree again to access social club.
I love how they’re doing all these things now hoping people don’t realize it’s just pr stunts to try and grow community faith so more people will buy gta 6… they could give a F about the play experience.. perfect example being the rapid fire bug they never fixed since launch over 10 years ago
What qualifies as spawn killing in pvp is gonna be a blurry line that causes problems for people I think. Like if you're pvping someone and kill them back to back before they spawn something or kill you back, is that spawn killing? It probably will be when they don't like it and hit report 😂
exactly... it's subjective. Anyone can at any time feel like they're being grief'd and report you. The ppl complaing about griefing really shot themselves in the foot with this one
If my account gets banned because of me fighting someone who gets mad and reports me, then I'm quitting gta.
its like the team working on gta changed completely from its release form
They have. All the originals are gone.
I’m boutta delete the game at this point
One thing I would like to know is If someone reports you for griefing and you were not how does rockstar know this is a false report.
simplest thing is a person can be using BST, and the other cant 1 shot kill them so they report them for cheating or grieving
The game tells you you’re going the wrong way in races, can tell how many times you kill someone (going 40 and 7 with someone makes it pretty clear you’re griefing them)
@@bandit3019 Noone gets killed 40 times before leaving session or wanting to fight. if not leaving then ghost mode
@@bandit3019If they get killed 40-7, then it could just mean the other person is way better than them at fighting and could be banned for being skilled.
They don't...
I wouldn't worry too much. Though it does feel like R* is just hiring RP lobby moderators to be their support staff lol. "You said a bad woooooord, 6 hour ban".
One report for "griefing" is highly unlikely to be acted upon. I mean, R* can't even be bothered to fix the damn headlight on the Aleutian for crying out loud.
Didn't they buy FiveM or something? I'm pretty sure they also have hired server moderators. Just not the good ones, but the most entitled mods and admins imaginable.
Worse and more noticeable than the headlight, the dang back right sail window on the vigero zx convertible that won’t go down and can’t even be broken to get rid of it. I loved how there “solution” was to make it the only convertible that you can’t lower the top and park in your garage, the top automatically goes back up to cover the fact the window doesn’t work 🤦🏻♂️
@@lakerfan2874i thought they sued them or was that the people remastering the og gtas a couple years ago?
Ik I'm gonna get ban for spawn killing.i can't survived without spawnkilling
@@havi8-0-9 Rockstar actually bought 5M
Tbh I hate how Rockstar came out with these community guidelines over 9 years after GTA V Online was introduced, when griefers were consistently killing other players/engaging in unsporting behavior, and only NOW after announcing GTA 6 do they decide to do something that’s been a problem for nearly a decade in a game that could have been more fun for players all this time.
Good job Rockstar. Well done 😑
The thing they're removing the biggest part of GTA: griefing.
And this is why I’m worried that GTA VI will let OG fans down in some way.
It will not be the GTA we knew or know today.
New standards were accepted
It will be better....
Drive on the right side of the road, inside the lines, obey traffic lights/sign, or you will be banned!
@@slamdance100💀💀
I think they are doing this because a lot of people don't play GTA5 online now because of the griefing problem. They want to experiment with changing the rules to see if it actually helps attract players or at least doesn't repel existing players. They want to solve the problem before GTA6 Online is released so they can maximise the number of people who play it.
They tried this at the beginning and we shot it down
@@aceholepictures The game was a lot different in the beginning. People werent moving millions of dollars in cargo.
The real reason why i dont touch gta online anymore are the dangerous mod menus who can read out your IP and can take control of your entire PC in a whimp. Rockstar should take care of those menus to let them vanish forever. And that should be easy for them for how many and good lawyers they have.
There is literally a passive mode for people who cant take the heat
exactly but it also inhibits what you can do when youre in passive, like you cant do basically any missions in passive i think
There are ways to kill people in passive mode.
@@charlieretrogo inside your night shark then. you could also join another lobby or just chill inside of the casino or any owned properties
@@charlieretro i mean but most of the time it's impossible
If someone want to kill you, they can just put a bounty on your head, which removes your passive mode
bad thing about the ingame reporting tool is that some modders can actually block the outgoing message towards rockstar, since its controlled by the session you are in, which modders can easily cut off. It happened mutliple times, that the moment i reported a modder my game crashed. Not a moment later, the moment I hit submit, even when the modder was completly occupied with bullying someone else on the other side of the map
rockstar games is pathetic pandering to a "safe gaming experience" like they didnt encourage pvp and gregong gor years now its cyber buillying 😂😂😂
they where encouraging players to kill eachother and blow up rival business operations, and what about all the weapons zed vehicles they sell specifically for greifing. gta6 is about to be mid asf
they are basically saying that someone is allowed to blow up my cargo but I'm not allowed to retaliate becouse that would make it an unsafe gaming environment. lmfao if you blow me up ima make you leave the game
My whole purpose of grinding is to fight griefers, now what am I going to do
The writing is on the wall now for GTA6.
Yep go woke go broke
yea, I wont be buying it.
yup can definitely see someone getting banned for protecting themselves from griefers lmao this generation of gaming is so cooked gta 6 online will be so bad we already know it
Repeated aggressive attacks after the fact is not protecting one's self. It's throwing a tantrum at best.
you can kill someone who is trying to destroy your cargo bro, but the problem comes when you throw a tantrum and spawn kill them. why are all the baffoons commenting omd
@@VelaiciaCreatorI mean if you shoot first, you can’t complain when you start losing unless you a bish.
@@Comatosedpeanut Toxic response is not justified. In the real world, you can change the situation from self defense to assault just by going too far past the point of danger. It is a child's response, not that of a mature adult.
@@oranzbowl Why are all the toxic kids (you) laughing when the cargo explodes, and crying when they get a little favor in return? I just gotta know...since we're being petty here. How many steps do I have to watch you take through the sniper scope, before Im allowed to pull the trigger? 5? It's not at spawn kill. You spawned and walked 5 steps xD
the outro never gets old
This is why I stayed on Ps4 😂
Same here. As soon as I heard AI was going to be monitoring voice chat, that was like Nope!
Same
💯🙌🏼
Yeah imma continue what I do and if I get banned I’ll just never play any game by Rockstar again. They already censored themselves by removing NPC’s, and the departure of Houser and the OG’s will eventually lead to it’s downfall anyway. Luckily they seem to have worked on VI.
why they should ban anyone for modding, cheating or greafing? they just changed their guidelines. they never actually talked about do something against it. its just not allowed. since ther is no control of anything you can still do whatever you want.
@@kennythemeat modding and all that sure if it’s toxic, but spawn-killing in a pvp game? PvP isn’t what it’s focused on but still, this is why passive mode exists, or just switching sessions. If anything the devs should implement a better spawn system instead of letting the players pay for Rockstar’s mistakes.
Love it 👍🏾 hopefully this forces more out the community and the game itself
I assume this will all be in GTA 6 so they are putting it in place now.
The game is rated M... for mature... Yet they change rules, so a 9 year old won't get their feelings hurt.
Says the griefer.
Facts!! Instead of catering to kids they should be banning them. I'd bet 90% of griefers are kids that shouldn't even be allowed on the game. Ban all under 18 and the game would be 10x better 💯
I never hear the 9 year olds
complaining. Usually older people just minding there own buisness.
after some heists the game will randomly spawn you in a strip club
now the host of that heist should be banned
cry 😢
strange update from rockstar but had to be done honestly, griefing has gotten way out of hand in online
This is bad are you kidding me
Why do people wanna be monitored and control? Y'all better wake up. All this is a control mechanism.
And it never was so bad to what you need to be monitored like this. And this doesn't even solve the actual problem. Because people are still going to blow up your cargo and you can't retaliate because if you spawn kills somebody, you have a chance to being banned.
They could address the backwards racing with a togglable setting in the race setting, no need to 'remove privilages' whatever that means. Let the race host decide if they want that or not
That would require effort and probably a few of their DEI hires to work a 12hr shift or the weekend. That ain't gonna happen.
Yea should be a option like if a players is driving backwards more than 5 to 10 secs it automatically should just kick them out the race
Grief hours of work in cargo for like 2k fine. Pvp kill people rapidly assaulting them the second they spawn in a sandbox type game...rockstar is utterly ridiculous
Brutal. Gotta protect every one's feelings while they're playing a game about becoming a high ranking drug overlord, murderer, police fighting, GRAND THEFT AUTO professional, under the table reconnaissance and militia, anarchy creating, tax avoiding criminal who is affiliated or at war with all the other gangs and chapters in town.
But don’t call someone the f word when they grief your cargo!
2:41 i think someone in rockstar got 'griefed' himself for that driving the wrong way in a Racewith the intention to disrupt to be a thing🤣
sounds about right hahaha
found the griefer
Yeah, that was an oddly specific example lmao
Its like censoring sex scenes in porn.
Japan does it somewhat.
@@gertytk5528 LMAO 😂
@@gertytk5528oh please don't talk about that country which puts out heavily sexualized animes every year, a girl boy sleeping in a bed something different happens other day censors these scenes, irony dies like 4000 times, except some worthful animes, they are too cringe
@@gertytk5528Well let’s not forget about Pearl Harbor.
For those that don't know, Rockstar games has been working to track gamers and turn them over to the DOJ since 2019.(If your country has extraction clauses with the US, that includes you too.)
Good, I'm tired of having my safety threatened by wannabe thugs for simply defending myself in a videogame, three times I've had people try and kill me and when I kill them back too much they get mad and start looking up my address and shit. Maybe those people don't deserve to be playing videogames in the first place and should be in a cell.
@topbrasstv8867 you're only comments on this page started this week and are only to promote this. Can we all say Rockstar bot together, TGG fam? If you are afraid to play GTA, they have games like fortnite for your age group.
@@USMC-Goforth lol alrighty then I guess it's cool to track people down and threaten them when they don't let you pick on them.
@topbrasstv8867 I don't believe anyone is tra king you down. While it certainly can be done, the majority of gamers don't have the means to do that. I use to track peolle for the DOD for 6 years as a US contractor, it wasn't easy.
Turn over for what? Making fun of Biden probably
As much as griefing was bad, it’s a core part of the game, you gotta be smart with your sells and doing things in big lobbies, the only griefing that’s pissy is griefing low levels. This implement has made gta slowly a shell of itself, especially when we lost in game lobby voice chat
Remember griefing is subjective, so anyone can report you if the feel like they're being grief'd. In saying that, any YTer that makes a video with any sort of PvP like anti-griefer content should in theory be banned as the other person is technically being grief'd. This is sort of how TheProfessional does his anti-griefer videos ie. spawn killing the griefer in a 10v1, the original griefer could technically report TheProffesional for griefing.
See the fine line with these new griefing guidliness, it's subjective. I guess the grinder community got what they wanted, but shot themselves in the foot at the same time.
9 times out of 10, the person who started the issue decides theyre the victim..
I've been grnding for ten years, I didn't want this. It's GTA ffs!!!
@@aceholepicturesit’s not for you, It’s mostly for the brand new players (gtav is on the rise thanks to the announcement of 6) and no one wants to get spawn killed by an 8000. Many people quit because of it and rockstar wants to ride the wave of new players to make more money. Think with your head.
The reason you grind is to become the level 400 that griefed you at the beginning. So satisfying to earn the orbital cannon and use it on a griefer(8000 is exploit glitching)@@bandit3019
In theory R* could take the subjective part out by clearly defining what counts as griefing. But rn it’s just a circus because they gave a vague definition and 3 examples so it’s anyone’s guess what is and what isn’t allowed
They should just make lobbys with different rules.
Make a lobby with no police, no explosives, or flying vehicles for example. Ppl want to play in different ways
Great idea👍👍👍
But yet it’s encouraged to grief other players cargo for rank and 1000 dollars…
Don't know why Rockstar is trying to make the game safe and friendly. It's GTA.
im sayin, Its a 18+ game 😂
@@SirTinkle221lol
Why is that funny?@@officialeciy
It’s 2024. Everyone’s a pussy. You hurt their feelings you lose your account. Their feelings are more important than your money because their feelings are what boosts the company’s ESG score which influences the right investors and media talking heads which far outweighs your contribution.
Yeah, GTA. Not griefers vs. sweats lol
Imagine getting banned for killing someone’s in gta that is allowed to do ingame it’s like making a shooter games without guns
just do adversary modes that’s what they’re made for
@@joshleftthechat3497 nobody never joins it
Did rockstar forget they have passive mode for spawn killings lol
Yeah but you can't be a boss in the game if you do that which doesn't make sense at all
You can't be a boss in passive mode, you can't interact with any players, you can't do missions etc.
That's not a good alternative
or just leaving session if you can't or enjoy playing in current session
@@Sly2BandOfThievesIsTheBestSly You go boss and do missions on only invite solo Lobby/session
for me, I agree with discouraging people from spawn killing. like there are lots of times where I am just minding my own business, but some person starts grieving and spawn-camping for no reason. it can be real annoying to try and deal with it or trying to move to a different server (you need to be alive to go into options to be able to change server).
Exactly this. No clue why TGG thinks this is bad
drop in sales?
No you don't. Just ewo and then you can open pause menu before you respawn.
skill issue
@@D3STROY3R779 Yep
Players can only be spawn killed if they allow it with passive & ghost options available on the respawn screen. If you don't use these features it's your own fault & not griefing.
Griefing and foul talk banned in a game full of sexual references in vehicle descriptions and in the in game radio and tv is beyond me.
I'd rather play in invite only now, cuz of the fact that I cannot retaliate against my nemesis! What the actual fuck, Rockstar? Why?
i actually dont know, public lobbies were ruined when modders became a thing and made the pvp unfair, and invite only is still fun. get a good amount of ingame friends to join you so you all can dick around and not worry about getting reported
Who says you can't?
No one said you can’t Mf it’s like you only listened to what he was theorizing about it… they said you can’t just sit there and spawn kill, going 40 and 10 (I’ve seen it happen and done it) is overboard, since getting killed pulls you out of the menu for some god forsaken reason
@@bandit3019depends on why the spawn killing is happening. 9/10 it’s a loser getting what they deserve.
@@bandit3019 Bruh. Once, I killed my nemesis again and agaian and again bcz he ruined my sale mission for night club when it was on double money. And I know that TGG said that I can't just camp and spawn kill a person now.
I'm a sadist by nature, my friends say, that I love the sweet smell of revenge. It's like f*ck with me, Imma f*ck with you, but I'm also very loyal to other peeps though, if I'm feeling happy, I also help others deliver their product by guarding them with my oppressor. I'm just like Trevor Philips (in game ofc, irl, I'm just a normal Doctor, but in game - I can be toxic as hell 😂 jk), also, hope so you have a nice day ahead, bruh!
Sniper battles are gonna be so lame now 😭
I think rockstar should just add a new type of lobby where players can’t attack each other or their vehicles, but can still do missions and attack npcs
its called invite only
@@121Greenthumb Invite only it does not allow you to meet new players or find other players to do missions with. That is the point. Just like other games have lobbies where players cant harm each other. It encourages co-op play, and veteran players love helping new players in games like that. More new players would keep playing. There are LOTS of us who would love a "Friendly" lobby. A PVP only lobby and a "Friendly" lobby would solve this whole issue. People in invite only lobbies 9 out of 10 times are there because they got griefed out of a public.
@@121Greenthumbyou slow lil bro💀🙏🙏🙏🙏
I wish there was no bonus for doing deliveries in public servers + the insentive for destroying someone elses cargo. It is never enjoyable to lose hours of work.
Rockstar just didn't want to handle cheating on PC, and regulated some bulls*** that's not effective on prohibiting bad behaviors. Even some rules are weird.
Well glad I stopped playing then. What's the point of having a high demand bonus for selling a public session if there is no risk? It also completeley ruins PVP in this game because at what point does it become griefing? If I'm better than my opponent? Like, who moderates this? AI? If so, this'll lead to a ton of false bans.
Fr bro like this ruins pvp
You clearly didn't watch the video since there is still risk to selling stuff. They didn't ban that.
@Sly2BandOfThievesIsTheBestSly I did watch the video, but you clearly don't understand my comment. A lot of people will fear getting falsely banned for griefing and stop doing it. This is a pointless change.
@@Sly2BandOfThievesIsTheBestSly you clearly don’t think then huh? In pvp you can spawnkill your enemy and whats stopping that enemy from reporting you as you are “spawnkilling”
@@ynwslasher2457 That was not what I was talking about so you clearly didn't think
Im a legit lvl 1005 grinder. And I always sell in full lobbies, both for the extra cash and the thrill. It's also lore accuratte, we are criminals moving goods in a territory disputed by other gangbangers and kingpins, so I unserstand why it could be considered "not griefing". Also close your app the moment an attack is inminent if you wanna keep your goods 🤷♂️
Have the Gronks that came up with these rules never played this game??...
They're probably the bean counters that were fired from Twitter.
Rockstar is banning GTA Online griefers before GTAVI fr tho
This has to be the stupidest thing tbeyve done... They allow others to blow up your cargo which could be worth millions for basically nothing but you can't fight back and kill them for ruining your shit? Like come on dude. What's even funnier is that this is a gta game lmao, can't believe killing other players is now a bannable offense. Massive L move from Rockstar here
Yeah When Rockstar Says They’re Doing Something I Don’t Believe Them
Why Are the First Letters of Every Word Capitalized Like It's the Title to Something?
Bro, so Jimmy the character from campaign is banned from his own game?
And if you don't follow the rules as a criminal in a video game, you get punished?
So, I'm seeing the reason why the founders of Rockstar Games left.
Take 2 took rockstar down