On my case, starting from misión 13 to the last misión, i fly with the F-14D Super Tomcat, only when i have PJ as my wingman, from Mission 1 to 12 i fly with any fighterjet.
Hell, come to think of it, Cipher's story does kinda match the Razgriz. The Belkan War is most certainly a period of great change. Cipher pops up during this time, and proceeds to absolutely thrash the Belkans, garnering the nickname "Demon Lord". Then he's on standby for 6 months, all the while the politicians fight over the spoils of the Belkan war and AWWNB plots in the shadows, waiting for the opportunity to strike. When they finally do attack, Cipher returns to save the world from nuclear hellfire. If that don't fit the legend, I don't know what does.
12,000 dead? I'm not advocating for more dead people but shouldn't the death toll from 7 nukes be in the millions if not billions? I mean, how many people died when Hiroshima and Nagasaki was bombed?
Considering those atomic bombings, which were vastly inferior in power to nuclear warheads, happened upon cities with plenty of material to generate debris that would do a lot of the killing, it's worth considering WHERE exactly these 7 were dropped, but the historical death tolls for those two historical examples were upwards of 230,000 people in total, with the first days of the bombings accounting for half of that at about 115,000. If the seven nukes were dropped in VERY sparsely populated areas along the Waldreich Mountains as indicated on the news broadcast (how many people live deep within those mountain ranges is the real question), then it's possible for there to be many fewer deaths, even with more powerful and numerous bombings. Belka may have a significant amount of wilderness and rural land that minimizes the effect of this event... and their military may even have planned it that way. If there were even a single city comparable to either of the two you mentioned within the region, then there should obviously be a greater death toll. Apparently, this was not the case. It obviously doesn't change the nature of those deaths with the exception of people probably also dying to avalanches on top of the direct blast, kinetic havoc, and radiation sickness. People who had nothing to do with the combat died in horrid ways. That alone makes the use of these weapons sinful enough. But here's a data-driven calculation for what a reasonable mountain detonation results in... One source I found says that about 12% of the human population lives in the mountains, but their presence would have to depend on what the mountains are used for. 13 million people live in the Alps, which is the most densely populated mountain range in the world and 25 million live along Appalachia in the US, fir example. Kill rates for nuclear weapons with regards to lethal doses of radiation may only hit 50% at as much as 8 km away from an air burst nuclear detonation, meaning the area of effect for just ONE would be around 200 km^2 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_nuclear_explosions). Those within 3 km are probably going to die, barring building or terrain masking effects. Populations above 4000 ft have an average population density of about 21 people/km^2, though this varies according to the particular height range considered (www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/duncan/iwonder/mtnpop.html). Assuming the Waldreich mountains vary in height, we can estimate that 7 air burst nuclear weapons would average about 4,200 deaths assuming everyone dies within the margin of a 50/50 chance of death and ignoring the effect of terrain or buildings. If we assume independent areas of effect, a multiplication of 7 for each nuclear detonation then leads to about 29,000 deaths. Looking at the blast areas shown in the cutscene, however, two sets of 2 bombs each are coupled rather close together, and the ranges for two others also overlap at almost half the radius. Only one other bomb really did its own damage on the eastern most site. It might then be adequate to reduce from the 29,000 based on that knowledge. If we approximate the two couples and the single eastern-most bomb as single explosions and then add the sum of one additional bomb for the west side (the second westernmost bomb is overlapped for almost its entire effect radius), then that leaves only 4 effective bombs' worth of effect, meaning about 16,800 deaths (again, assuming everyone with a chance of death above 50% is assumed dead). So, while 12,000 is a low number, it's not outright impossible after accounting for survivability rates (understandably, those rates are lower where blast ranges overlap) and precise locations of populated regions within the mountains. Conclusion: The death toll is conceivable, weirdly enough.
The area in which the bombs exploded is a continuous mountain range that separates North from South Belka( which became North Osea after the War)..In the missions before this one it is explained that South Belkan cities rebelled, refusing to been continuosly used as a battleground between Belka and the Allies and declared themselves demilitarized..then the Belkan Army retreated to the mountain range in their desperate efforts to mount a final defensive line to protect their "Holy land" from the Allies. Thats why the casualties weren't that high..it was a sparsely populated region
"Not bad for a couple of rookies"
Cipher has destroyed like 300 targets between the beginning of the game and this mission. What a rookie. xD
Gotta love Eagle Eye's sense of humor.
14:48 Suddenly realized this was also the mine location being used as a nuclear weapon storage facility from AC5.
the base in which galm takes off is heielark, also in ac5
June 6th, 1995
Day when I was born (real life)
Imma come back and say happy birthday
I was born 362 days after that.
On my case, starting from misión 13 to the last misión, i fly with the F-14D Super Tomcat, only when i have PJ as my wingman, from Mission 1 to 12 i fly with any fighterjet.
May I ask you why you do that?
Because i wanted to try other fighter planes
Meanwhile I was using Morgan from start to the end😅
razgriz......
the nukes....... AC5
Queria muito que alguem fizesse a saga do Ace Combat, só que em BR por que só tem a saga feita por gringo
tipo : todos os jogos???
Also
Wardog were trained at Heierlark Base, which is your refueling base for this mission.
Hell, come to think of it, Cipher's story does kinda match the Razgriz. The Belkan War is most certainly a period of great change. Cipher pops up during this time, and proceeds to absolutely thrash the Belkans, garnering the nickname "Demon Lord". Then he's on standby for 6 months, all the while the politicians fight over the spoils of the Belkan war and AWWNB plots in the shadows, waiting for the opportunity to strike. When they finally do attack, Cipher returns to save the world from nuclear hellfire. If that don't fit the legend, I don't know what does.
World War ll If it turns into a game
miss this good games :( i still have ace ckmbat 4 an 5 doe ^~^
Don't they know that they're facing an Isekai Maou?
gg bro u should upload ace combat 5...i love the story of that game :) cant wait for the new game
Dante Ruiz yeah!!!!!
How Much F-15s Can Carry Fuel?
The Veterans of Ace Combat all of them, I hope..
miss this game
i don't remember what was that aircraft that was going up to the left in the map
Only 12.000 dead?
It's true that prety low for a such nuklear bombing
Empereur_ du_Congo Eddy-Malou I was expecting somewhere in the millions
Because they didnt aim for cities they just made a line across some land but in my head id still say more like 12 million died
What the hell I was playing through zero today two weird
12,000 dead? I'm not advocating for more dead people but shouldn't the death toll from 7 nukes be in the millions if not billions? I mean, how many people died when Hiroshima and Nagasaki was bombed?
Considering those atomic bombings, which were vastly inferior in power to nuclear warheads, happened upon cities with plenty of material to generate debris that would do a lot of the killing, it's worth considering WHERE exactly these 7 were dropped, but the historical death tolls for those two historical examples were upwards of 230,000 people in total, with the first days of the bombings accounting for half of that at about 115,000.
If the seven nukes were dropped in VERY sparsely populated areas along the Waldreich Mountains as indicated on the news broadcast (how many people live deep within those mountain ranges is the real question), then it's possible for there to be many fewer deaths, even with more powerful and numerous bombings.
Belka may have a significant amount of wilderness and rural land that minimizes the effect of this event... and their military may even have planned it that way. If there were even a single city comparable to either of the two you mentioned within the region, then there should obviously be a greater death toll. Apparently, this was not the case.
It obviously doesn't change the nature of those deaths with the exception of people probably also dying to avalanches on top of the direct blast, kinetic havoc, and radiation sickness. People who had nothing to do with the combat died in horrid ways. That alone makes the use of these weapons sinful enough. But here's a data-driven calculation for what a reasonable mountain detonation results in...
One source I found says that about 12% of the human population lives in the mountains, but their presence would have to depend on what the mountains are used for. 13 million people live in the Alps, which is the most densely populated mountain range in the world and 25 million live along Appalachia in the US, fir example. Kill rates for nuclear weapons with regards to lethal doses of radiation may only hit 50% at as much as 8 km away from an air burst nuclear detonation, meaning the area of effect for just ONE would be around 200 km^2 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_nuclear_explosions). Those within 3 km are probably going to die, barring building or terrain masking effects. Populations above 4000 ft have an average population density of about 21 people/km^2, though this varies according to the particular height range considered (www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/duncan/iwonder/mtnpop.html). Assuming the Waldreich mountains vary in height, we can estimate that 7 air burst nuclear weapons would average about 4,200 deaths assuming everyone dies within the margin of a 50/50 chance of death and ignoring the effect of terrain or buildings. If we assume independent areas of effect, a multiplication of 7 for each nuclear detonation then leads to about 29,000 deaths.
Looking at the blast areas shown in the cutscene, however, two sets of 2 bombs each are coupled rather close together, and the ranges for two others also overlap at almost half the radius. Only one other bomb really did its own damage on the eastern most site. It might then be adequate to reduce from the 29,000 based on that knowledge. If we approximate the two couples and the single eastern-most bomb as single explosions and then add the sum of one additional bomb for the west side (the second westernmost bomb is overlapped for almost its entire effect radius), then that leaves only 4 effective bombs' worth of effect, meaning about 16,800 deaths (again, assuming everyone with a chance of death above 50% is assumed dead). So, while 12,000 is a low number, it's not outright impossible after accounting for survivability rates (understandably, those rates are lower where blast ranges overlap) and precise locations of populated regions within the mountains.
Conclusion: The death toll is conceivable, weirdly enough.
The area in which the bombs exploded is a continuous mountain range that separates North from South Belka( which became North Osea after the War)..In the missions before this one it is explained that South Belkan cities rebelled, refusing to been continuosly used as a battleground between Belka and the Allies and declared themselves demilitarized..then the Belkan Army retreated to the mountain range in their desperate efforts to mount a final defensive line to protect their "Holy land" from the Allies.
Thats why the casualties weren't that high..it was a sparsely populated region
Belka dropped 7 nukes just to stop the advancement of the Allied Forces
Meanwhile in America we did the same in September. In 2001.
Basically USA is just war crime but way worse than Japan did it