Jordan Peterson On Why He Refuses To Use Special Pronouns For Transgender People - LBC
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Jordan Peterson told LBC's Maajid Nawaz he is refusing to let the government tell him what he can and can't say.
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The pronoun I wish to be addressed by is, "Your Excellency"
Thank you
😂
Ok Your Excellency as a fellow human will you now say thank you mam?
@@ashwoodworth6062 said "Ok Your Excellency as a fellow human will you now say thank you mam?"
"...mam"? Is that some sort of gender neutral (gender-denying), LGBTQ7*6R4 new-age pronoun you've adopted in lieu of "man"? Or perhaps a misspelling of the word "ma'am"?
If the former, then thank you "mam". If the latter then I am sorry. I reserve the word "ma'am" for persons of the XX chromosomal group.
Thank you
@@lowertones9713 I said fellow human you are a grammar troll, perhaps I may have miss spelled ma'am, but that wasn't the point I was putting out there.
@@ashwoodworth6062 lol
I mean this viewpoint is just common sense but apparently this is now radical.
Unfortunently there is nothing common about Common Sense anymore.
Gary Proudfoot .
Its not radical.
The controllers want us to believe so.
People who agree with him *claim* it's just common sense.
Funny, people on the other side claim the same.
yopandas
You know, labelling people you don't agree with as mentally ill, is not all that different from what the worst of the SJW's do.
2+2=4. men and women exist
2+2=orange. there are an unlimited number of genders.
I now identify as debt-free, all banks must now respect my right to identify as such
Godot, why has this comment only 12 likes in 6 months? It is awesome!
One joke
@@Currynord But two genders.
Yes I have found yet another Godot!
These rights are going to be abused in the future
Misleading title. He just refuses to let the government compel people how to speak.
yes
CANADA is lucky they have JORDAN PETERSON
while in the USA 3 teachers were already fired due to misgendering like VLAMING and KLuGE
@@anthonybondoc9391 then maybe they shouldn't misgender their students and treat them with basic respect and kindness
Exactly, but that wouldn't generate as many views on UA-cam.
Redbeardian protection or censorship?
@@alexhoppas5701 So you want to criminalize free speech? Glad I don't live in your world.
Misleading title. Jordan has said before that he would respect someones pronouns if they asked him to.
No, he said he would first have to find out the motivation for why someone might be requesting it.
Yes but that doesn't mean he refuses to do so. Although now re reading the title it does say "special" pronouns which is probably referring to the ridiculous ze and zir pronouns which he is avidly against.
He can't... no one can, when every energy suckin' freak has a different pronoun today and tomorrow:) Best to stay away from that blight:)
You he said he is fine using him or her if the trans person looks male or female. But when it comes to sher and do and attackhelicopter then hed be " now hold on a mo"
come to your senses no one wants to be called "Ze" Ey" "Xe" "Ne" those are the invented pronouns we are talking about. Trans want to be called He or She they just want to be called He instead of She and She instead of He.
Non-binaries and gender queer might have other preferences but I'm pretty sure they prefer "they" and "them" over any of that invented bs that no one uses. If language isn't getting adopted naturally it's because your invented words are crap you don't pass a law to make bad design mandatory.
I am left winger socialist. I agree with him. It is compelled speech. I am going to call you whatever you look like. You can ask. I will try to oblige. End of story. No legislation necessary.
@Wayne Kitty yes it does. 1.2 trillion dollar tax cuts for rich people, in america.
ineedhoez it was either that or no taxes at all so, take your pick.
@Neil P. hahahahaha perfectly said! 👌☝️👍🏽
the person i least expect to have the same opinion as a right winger. 👏🏽
basically the "Im a black man and I agree with this"
I am a trans woman full surgery, nothing and then nothing anyone says to me will ever offend me, call me male, a man, a goat, a pig, call me whatever you like, it does not affect my daily living, being offended is one of the most tiresome human emotions goings.
That's why conservatives laugh and think it's funny when people get offended.
Hurray for you.
Just because you're not offended by it doesnt invalidate those who are. It's great you're comfortable enough as to not get offended, but many other people will see this as an insult
@@ChrisGarcia-ze5yz honestly, it's the mindset that people find funny not the fact that the person identify as. Basically, if you're sensitive and let things bother you, people will be more open to abuse it. If you don't get offended, you're not giving the people any right to laugh at you.
Well said and if only more people thought like you.
Respect can't be gained through legislation
...nor its compulsion. Agreed.
Facts
Well said!!
Absolutely right!
Mission: passed
Respect: +++
I can barely remember people’s names upon meeting them once. Now this? 😳
Exactly, misgendering someone is no worse than pronouncing a name wrong or getting an age wrong.
@@barrymanihigh8560 it is worse, it can bring up past trauma
@@katherine5579 how? pls educate me
@@lenajolly5974 like some people were born a gender they don't wanna be, and they wanna be who they want, but some parents don't understand, and people as well. So things can get traumatic.
@@justamikee thank you
‘You’re trying to gain linguistic supremacy, you’re doing that by using compassion as a guise’ 👏🏽
Spot on
You're trying to gain intellectual supremacy by hiding behind the words of a pseudointellectual bigot that promotes hate and bigotry to get rich off ignorant people
FTFY
Linguistic supremacy is yet another made up word that the weaklings among us men use to scare themselves with. Like "cultural marxism".
@@blueguy12345 give me a case where a transgender man gave birth who WASNT born biologically female or is intersexual and I'll start using pronouns.
@Ella CARROLL-FITZPATRICK it is supremacy when you FORCE others to put aside there beliefs to validate your beliefs.
People keep telling me that Jordan is misrepresenting the bill for the purpose of fear-mongering. Honestly, I don't see it. Seems like he's presenting it as exactly what it is.
bill's been in existence for years. Nothing went wrong.
JP's dreaded amendment has been in existence for a year. Nothing has happened.
Cult of Dusty and Hugo and Jack have done a nice teardown of his drama.
If he was, I would expect that the effects of the bill would be closer to what he claims they are. Some of the examples I have seen of it allegedly doing this was a police officer abusing a trans person for being trans, which obviously, is something no one should be okay with. Either JP finds the police officer to be unfairly charged with a violation of Bill C-16, or what he claimed would happen hasn't.
Hugo & Jake:
ua-cam.com/video/5_Wh67H0vws/v-deo.html
Cult of Dusty:
ua-cam.com/video/xb3oh3dhnoM/v-deo.html
@@Redbeardian do you even know what gender identity means?
@Various Greens Yeah,m Dusty is pretty cool.
"Narcissistic power play" ... Jordan nailed it.
The narcissistic power play to pick a gender
ah yes, when a dumb teenager is influenced by social media and made to belive if they don't use xe/xir pronouns they won't fit in that makes them a narcissist. he is using extremely rare cases and making them seem like the majority of cases. very manipulative and talk about pulling wool over your eye....I mean come on man.
@@royalewren I live in Seattle and it's really not that rare here. A number of grammar schools in Washington State have BIPOC only clubs, where kids are being taught they're oppressed and Whites are the oppressors. Kids who say they're Straight are being bullied at school. Seattle's Children's Hospital is performing genital mutilation on kids younger than 18. Suicide and mental illness has skyrocketed among kids, teens, and adults, in large part because identity politics is dividing and isolating people more and more. And focusing on one's identity only serves to empower the ego while obfuscating one's true nature...which is exactly what the parasitic psychopaths who are pulling the strings want.
She really did nail it. I think Jordan should speak her mind whenever she pleases and she should use whatever pronouns she wants to refer to other people. And I will keep referring to her as a she, because by her logic I should not be forced to use the pronouns she prefers. However, I could use Dr. Jordan Peterson instead of Mrs Jordan Peterson. Because you may be thinking I am referring to her wife. Would you know I was referring to Jordan if I referred to her as Mr.Tammy Peterson?
@@johno812and yet you demonstrated nothing but narcissistic power play. This whole gender business has really become less about expression and more of a game of self interest
Its gonna be a confusing future on this planet
Era of offendeds
Nah just current neandrathral's like yourselves, the future will be filled with people with open minds, not simple minds like we currently have.
I hope I pass in the next 20 to 30 years and I'd be in my 50s,if I want that it says something
@@ashwoodworth6062 Bruh look at u, look in the mirror right now, and say to the guy in the mirror: "im open minded". Try not to laugh challenge, here u are, freak
@@ashwoodworth6062 What does mutilating ones body have to do with an open mind?
This man has made me question the leftists, I am a centrist right now.
To be fair, being left doesn’t necessarily mean being liberal. You can still be left and authoritarian.
@@tktschannel Fair. I'm fairly "liberal"/"free" on many topics including some aspects of religion but I end up firmly on the Right regardless (USA specifically)
@@tktschannel that sounds like radicalism lol
Centaurist.
@@salfarado nah I prefer being a magizoologist than a centaurist, too many kicks. Eeeh
im a trans girl and honestly i think these pro nouns “zim” and “zer” is just bs
American Fuel TV HAHA are you dumb there is a medical condition called “gender dysphoria”
Most anyone outside of university would agree Camilia.
@@camilaxoxo2263 any crap that people drum up you will accept, i bet if they told you a dog can give birth to kittens you will believe them, as long as they have a title to their name, Dr. mark says a dog can be a horse if its born in a stable, Professor Black says a cat can lay chicken eggs. think for goodness sake, its not illegal to use your brain, being born a woman how the hell do you know what a man feels like if you have never been one?
End of days I was born a male and transitioned to female I fully accept I’m not 100% female but like what does a dog giving birth to a kitten got to do with me
@@camilaxoxo2263 gender is determined by your xx or xy chromosomes in your cells and your body adjusts accordingly to that code
The pronoune I'd like to be called is "your-majesty" and the respectful way of addressing is looking at my feet while saying it 🙄
That's now Leftism works, indian
"it's a narcissistic power play"
When you have a guy like Jordan Peterson on your side in an argument, you know your in with a fighting chance.
Except he don't seems to be winning
@@atanaZion lol//u wish
A guy who blatantly misrepesents facts to suit his narrative?
@@atanaZion❄️🤡
*you're. The contraction of you are. It's really not difficult.
It is funny, but I rarely run into this situation. When directly addressing someone, I use the second person pronoun "you". No one debates this as far as I know. When I am actually with a person, I seldom find myself in the situation to use their third person pronoun "she" or "him". I do this when I'm talking ABOUT someone. And how often does one talk ABOUT someone using third person while that person is standing in the same room.Frequently that person is not present. Honestly, when I am with a person and I have to refer TO the person, I just use the proper name. Much easier.
same here. be smart about conflict - don't ignore it, just fly above it. life's too short
I freaking love this guy. Just sensible, intelligent, honest. All things the majority of the world is not.
LOL
I would refuse to call transgender students by calling them their preferred names and pronouns.
I'm a lefist but always hated this "pronoun" thing. Social Justice Warriors are ruining the name of the left. I agree with Peterson and glad I can use this as an argument
Well then you're not left
@@basedguns8218 theres other things that make up your political position besides just the pronoun thing
@@nczioox1116 i think he means liberal cuz left and liberal are different
@@basedguns8218 gotcha
@@nczioox1116 what?
Peterson really is a smart man and sees things in a simpler way, there needs to be more people and more people in power that can understand topics as well as he does, there are some real idiots In power around the world and it’s a frustrating thought about the future
This man is a national treasure, actually he's a world's treasure. He must be protected at all cost.
It’s like everyone that talks to him just completely misses what he’s saying but are quick to assume he’s the in-compassionate one, he’s literally just against the government compelling everyone’s language by law. He’s for free speech, he’s against the introduction of laws in government that force people what to say.
like 99% of the time the people he is arguing with, misinterpret what he is saying. they don't listen enough
@@sk8mafia97
what he's saying is happening now in the USA
3 teachers in the USA was fired due to misgendering
this is what he's saying all along
Ah yes
Fighthing the government laws that protects minorities embecause they force ppl to be respectful
One thing in all this, is why would people be referring to someone directly in the third person? When I speak with someone I say "How are you?" not "How are he?" In those rare occasions where you'ed use the third person directly, why would it be necessary to have a law?
this is a really interesting point. You don't use pronouns for someone who is typically within earshot of you so....you're right! wtf is it all about. My mind is seriously blown.
Or why listen so closely to see if they offended you. You know when someone's trying to offend you even when they cover it in pc language. I'm a 40 yr old olschool man,there's only been men and women on this earth for as long as I've known so that's what I refer to them as. No malice, just common sense. I'll defend any Americans right to love, fuck, and be whoever they want BUT if your entitled self thinks I'm gonna address you buy some made up pronoun then from now on you and only you (no need to trouble you other folks) will address me as "the coolest dude ever (followed by 3 audible clicks)" or I will be triggered. INSANITY
Sure you do. 'Hey X! this is my new lab partner. Her name is Y.'
'Hey there. Um, i'm non binary, and don't identify as female.'
Que ranting about 'reality' or whatever.
Dennis Mason I completely understand what you mean but with all due respect, your statement simply isn’t true. There’s also intersex individuals. These people were born with a mix of boy and girl. It’s a different case for each person, but I believe the most common cases is when their genitals are mixed or difficult to identify. According to one of my sources, even their chromosomes get mixed.
@Various Greens Yeah. A mature person would just be 'Sure. hey Y. What are you studying?'
But no, some people have to go on a rant.
Imagine that some day people might be offended by the word "lemon" and you'll have to call them "yellow oranges" or face a law suit.
Lemons aren't your fellow human beings!
@@ashwoodworth6062 How can you be sure they are not? Now you are offending me and all my fellow humans that strongly believe they are.
limes now have to be called green orange because they might get offended
@@helmandblue8720 Classic leftie tactic of making people doubt reality, nice one hahaha
this is my flesh speaking but i would rather die. i wish i'm already dead when people would be getting death sentence for not calling objects right.
Let me put it this way:
I use "please" and "thank you" liberally in my day-to-day interaction with other people. However, if the government puts out a law that mandate I use these words in my conversations, fuck it, I'd rather go to jail.
Compelled speech, no matter how benign the speech, is an infringement on personal freedom, and I would fight it to the end. It is a matter of principles.
Imagine a bunch of conservstives going to jaik because they are being opressed by being forced to say "Thank you": and "please"
He's said before that he has no issue with adhering to pronouns on a personal, one to one level, provided that the pronouns were reasonable and as long as the person was polite and respectful. He only has an issue with the fact that the government are now coming in and forcing everyone to do so, through compelled speech legislation, on a societal level.
And rightly so. You clowns are extremely intolerant so the government has to step in.
@@joke3825 Look, I'm not mean to transgender people. If you tell me what you're preferred pronouns are I'll use them if it's he or she, but if I have to keep track of a bunch of different genders then I'll forget. If you don't tell me what your preferred pronouns are I will call you by whichever one you look like the most and if I offend you I will apologize and call you by whichever you like. Also, this new transgender thing makes no sense. There used to be two genders and now there are like 78 and there is no way I will remember those plus the government doesn't control my free speech.
@@whitenoise856 maybe not you, but let's be honest, most people are intolerant of trans or anyone that is different. Even you must have seen it. I know there are some LGBTQ people that take offense easily/are extreme etc, but just remember that they may all have suffered for being different.
@@joke3825 They're called snowflakes because they don't want their feelings hurt
@@joke3825 he was the one being respectful.. And you were being rude.. And now you want him to respect you pronouns!?
Misgendering someone is no worse than pronouncing a name wrong or getting an age wrong. So many imaginary problems at the moment...
The irony..imaginary? 🤭😂
It's only a problem if that person is transphobic.
@@freddycalipari4242 Actually, 'irony' shouldn't be used here. 'imaginary' is much more suitable.
@@coldfrenchfry5181 you're the type of dude who asked what the homework was on friday and ruined it for the whole class.
@@midjelly8837 ?
I wasn’t aware using the words “her” or “his” was offensive. I’d say dictating to someone that they don’t use those words IS offensive. Call me crazy, I guess
Are you aware that using the word "it" can be offensive? It's true, try going to your workplace and refer to Blacks as "it", chances are that some people might get upset.
Upset about a pronoun...
Im a straight guy with long hair. People mistaken me for a woman most of the time. But I'm pretty much okay with it.
sad for you!
If I put on a giraffe outfit and tell people that I feel like one, does that make me a real giraffe, or just a man in a giraffe costume with a mental illness?
Sane Person you are sane
that would make you a furry
😂😂😂😂😂
you turn into a man in giraffe costume
also if someone is physically changing their body and hormones then the comparison of being transgender to a costume is barely justifiable
Narcissistic power play"
Good god is this man spot on.
Except he's a narcissist powerplayer
Wanting your own special pronoun is a clear sign you have a sense of self importance which is narcissistic behaviour ffs sure lets all pick one for a fucking laugh
@@CAPDude44 Poor cross over drivel.
Red Dave no he's not!! 🙄😒
Nope.
That's an absolute statement. But he obviously doesn't believe I'm absolutes, except when he does, so you're wrong, but you're also right, because..
How about we all acknowledge that Peterson is maybe just a little bit psychologically unhinged?
My pronouns are "His Royal Highness", "Eminence" and "My Lord".
That's not how leftists works
I’m going to avoid calling anyone by their pronouns by just saying their name all the time
That's the route I try to go to. It gets so tiring to have to think about it. And the reason it's tiring is because it goes against what I believe.
Your feelings do not trump freedom of speech.
That's it in a nutshell. Of course, the opposite is true in a nuthouse!
A CV comes into my office with preferred pronouns..... my shredder is exhausted.
Isn’t it illegal to discriminate based on gender identity in places of work?
Elle Williams And the PC police are going to what.... turn up and demand I employ a few them/they while other disadvantaged people go to the back of the queue? Where should I put MAPS on the list of those I am compelled to consider for employment? I know when that happens we just change a few pro nouns for the day. I’m left wing and thankfully I see the backlash coming from the left to this BS.
Affirmative action hurts minorities including their acceptance
From what i heard he’s not anti trans or anything, just against a law in Canada that says that accidentally using the wrong pronouns on someone is illegal and is considered a hate crime, which is taking things a bit too far, haven’t looked too much into it though
YEah... well do look into it. He is lying through his teeth about the law in Canada - where his gross misrepresentation has long been debunked
See 'CBA Position on Bill C-16 (2016)'
I honestly feel so dumb for not understanding it in depth. Seeing your comment really helped peace things together for me :’)..
@@mischiefsguid3055 Don't beat yourself up. He's lied about it for so long and SO convincingly. It's only when you look at stuff yourself that you realise what he did.
You don't expect someone so educated would do such at thing. But he did. The more you look... the more you find, too,.
Mr Peterson absolutely nailed it! I can't respect people who are deliberately using appearance as a form of deception, even though it doesn't fool me 99.9% of the time. I can't respect people who insist I learn some babyish new language which only belongs in their fantasy-world. But I can demand that they respect my right to use the pronoun which I feel appropriate. In a world that's going mad, I enjoyed this voice of reason!
agreed!
You took the words out of off my mouth! They are playing pretend and getting mad when we don't want to play along.
@@dl2310 💯
Basically "I can't respect other ppl but I demand tjem to respect me"
Totally agree. Thank you for that
He has a right to agree to disagree
In the civil pov he doesn't if it's a law
It's so annoying in these kinds of interviews where the interviewee states a perfectly rational argument on his view of something practical and concrete (like the canadian law in this one) and then the interviewer just asks some dumb politically correct question like that one.
and yet...no arrests for misgendering
The thing about language adoption is that general publics adopt language naturally, not when they are being coerced. For instance, only three years ago had I first heard the term "cis" and even now I refuse to refer to myself as a "cis". I'm just a woman and no one gets to tell me how I refer to *myself* in relation to others or that I should preface it with "cis-gendered". I refuse to compromise that just because how I reference *myself* makes *you* uncomfortable.
No one is forcimg you to call yourself anything
does anyone else think its odd that Jordan is the one that knows how to use a mic?
if someone gets offended by somebody stating a fact, then it is not the person stating the fact who is being rude, the person who is feeling offended is choosing to be offended i.e the person who feels offended is blinded by their hurt feelings so they cant accept the truth
There is no fact when it comes to social terms
That's quite reduntant to say
I'm glad Jordan Peterson and level-headed people like him are using their platform to stand up for the civil liberties we have. As a trans person in America, I would hope that people would choose respect the pronouns I project and am comfortable with. I would never sacrifice the rights we are afforded because a stubborn person refuses to respect me. There is enough land among us to physically separate ourselves from those who want nothing to do with us because they can't function past appearances. The people demanding these things would do well to take a few vitamins, smoke a joint, and listen to a JP talk.
Exactly I'm not an american so laws are different where I'm from and what not. But I could never agree with putting the use correct pronouns for a trans person as a law. And that's coming from me as a trans person aswell. That puts to much tension on just the basic rights that us as trans people want. If someone doesn't want to use my pronouns and respect them. Then cool. I can just avoid that person. I don't agree with putting laws on that kind of stuff that's too much
@@spicylamamama2661 I highly doubt you are a trans person
LOL I appreciate the guy leaning in and try to have an engaging convo with Jordan BUT LOL it's hella funny how he's just to the side of the mic with his voice soft af, then we go to Jordan who I can hear bright as day.
Every time I think things are crazy in the U.S., I check on the news from Canada, where insanity is enforced by law, and then I feel better.
underrated comment XDXDXD
the only pronouns are he/him, she/her and they/them
and thou...hehe
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
How dare you ?? You bigot !! 🤬🤬 You should be sent to the prison for hate speech ( GULAG) 🤬
When the person is present you use their name.
....Subtle but sharp :) agreed.
... and when they're not present you use their pronouns
@@jff1073 No, you just call them names behind their back
@@FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey so.......... i guess that means you would say something like "i just talked to james. james said that james is going to disneyland with james's friends and james's family. do you want to come with james?" instead of "i just talked to james. he said that he's going to disneyland with his friends and his family. do you want to come with him?"
@@jff1073 Thats not what I meant. I meant that you should just insult them behind their back.
I’ve been wanting a pet unicorn for the longest time, so I just went out to my stable and strapped a paper cone to my horse’s head.
OMG I love unicorns to😁
Exactly.
How thick
😂😂😂😂😂
@Tristan Wintle ctfu right😂😂😂
His, him, he. Hers, her, she.
Simple and elementary.
I agree that making misgendering a person a hate crime is pretty extreme, (It can be hard to tell sometimes and well meaning people will also misgender people.) and in my opinion everyone should either be he, she or they- i.e fit into the common language. But it’s important to remember that you don’t know how transgender people feel and that it’s not up to you to validate their experiences so if they wanna be know as a certain gender, show some compassion.
@@dayisgay7250 what if u dont want to lie....u know that man is a woman or vice versa.....and your not gonna lie about it
Compassion? That ship sailed a long time ago when they started making demands and using social media lynch mobs to target people for hurting their feelings. They only have themselves to blame for the enemies they made.
@@timothymccray6034 Then just grow up and lear how to respect ppl
Some ppl are different and that's ot
@@timothymccray6034 I dont agree with the pronoun stuff but Im not gonna go out of my way to use the "right" or the "wrong" one either way. I just stick to using their name
Listen! I'm a cucumber and i don't want to be called he, she, or it but "cucumist" and if you don't i will take you to court for "cucumphobia"!!
Keep going Jordan!
I like how the host doesn't understand what a microphone is and Jordan speaks clearly and directly into it.
In English it's just pronouns you have to change, in Russian gender is built into adjectives, participles, and verbs of past tense in the form of various endings, so those gender-bender linguistic ideas would be absolutely impossible to implement. Thank God for our "great, mighty, truthful and free Russian tongue!" (I. S. Turgenev 1882)
Wow - I've suddenly gone back in time 5 years! No-one has heard of COVID, and Maajid is still on LBC!
He is totally correct.
I’m not gonna change my ideology of basic biology for others who thinks they are a different gender. I respect if people are trans but I’m not gonna change my mindset for people. It’s like saying I want to be a moose and if people don’t call me moose I’ll get angry
Just do a serurgy to become a moose
Man, women, done .
Kaspa kasparov
HATE SPEECH! NAZI!
RaggleFraggle! I know I'm soooo controversial
Who gives a shit about things like this other than pseudo intellectual bigots? Of all the things in the world to be worried about what pronouns someone chooses to call themselves is about as important as a drop of piss in the ocean. Which leads to one conclusion - you are seeking to justify your bigotry by wrapping it in the ramblings of a second rate Christian right wing 'soothsayer'. Put your efforts into something other than hate.
koopification I don't give a shit what people want to do, or who they want to do it with, how they want to dress or act, but the fact remains, man /woman ....
Now just go back to your alternative reality where sheep are cows and up is down and your mum is your dad you weirdo !
'I don't give a shit about what people want to do' - aka I care very deeply people do the shit I say they should... and if they don't I'll be a vengeful dick about it. WHO FUCKING CARES? Get a fucking grip. How you cannot understand you are just desperately grasping at an legitimate and socially acceptable way to voice your hatred, just like Peterson.
"Narcissistic power play". Sometimes we need a clinical psychology professor, to cut right to the chase.
Yeah well, except he's not telling the truth.
@@dmob881 Yeah, he is. There might be exceptions though.
@@gardenjoy5223 No. He's lied for 6 years on this one. He lies as soon as he opens his mouth here:
"Bill C-16 purported to do nothing but extend human rights provisions to an excluded group lets say to the transgender and non-binary types, and that was the federal legislation, it also made it a h crime to discriminate or harass..... " This is b^ls^t
Legislation which speaks to 'gender' applies to everyone - cis and trans.
And 'Gender' - identity or identity and expression - has been protected in Canada for over 30 years - mainly as part of the protected category 's^x'
All Bill C-16 did was bring federal legislation in line with the Country. It did not change the legislation itself.
Dr Peterson's actual beef was with a point of policy (not a law) associated with existing Ontario legislation which has been in place since 2012.
See Ontario Bill 33 Toby's Law. He actually READ from this policy at the Senate almost exactly one year before this appearance.
Bill C-16 changed nothing in this or any other existing local legislation or policy in any part of Canada.
He also knows full well that Bill C-16 did NOT make it a h crime to discriminate or harass. This is simply false.
This was made clear very early on by Brenda Cossman, professor of law at his own university... also by the Canadian Bar Association -
see the 'CBA Position on Bill C-16 (2016)'
.... and to his face and the face of his lawyer chum, by Senators at the Senate hearing - May 2017.
*Not one claim Peterson made about Bill C-16 or gender-related legislation in Canada was accurate or true*
Not one. He lied.
It wasn't his first lie and it certainly wasn't his last.
To me, this has always been simple:
1. You believe, identify, portray, and express as you like, excluding malice and hate (which is intent to hurt) and discrimination (denial of job, housing, etc.). That's your freedom.
2. I do the same. That's mine.
3. We do not tell each other what to say, and the government only does that to protect freedom insofar as possible.
4. Where these collide, we try our best to be kind (in this case, usually by avoiding unwanted words even when we can't say wanted ones).
Summary: Give everyone opportunity and freedom, up to the point where it curtails that of someone else.
Common sense, to me, is grasping and living by this.
Think of two kids napping in the back seat and bumping heads. Each must stop at the center line. So must we. The center line is being pushed by those who, yes, have struggled to be recognized (gender dysphoria is real). But it is still the center line and it is still common sense to note it!
If Gender Dysphoria is real why aren't actiall doctors talking about it,bit politicians?
My pronoun is chewingpoomblur and if you don't say it it's a hate crime.
0:10 VAR CHECK on transgender male.
VAR DECISION: Female
My pronouns from hereby are "Majesty/Excellency", and that is to be respected.
What's the possessive pronoun of that? Like his, hers, theirs, etc.
i agree 100%. when government makes opinions illegal, it makes me say those opinions more.
if a government compels me to say something, i'll deliberately go out of my way not to say it.
because i disagree with tyranny.
He doesn't 'refuse'. He refuses to be legally obliged.
My pronouns will now be MyLord/MyHighness thank you.
And mine will be lord of lords.
Honestly I just call people by their names, it’s just easier, I’m trans, I know people slip up, I slip up.
We don't 'slip up'. We speak the truth. The truth always outs, as you just admitted.
Speaking your truth! Takes strength in the era of cancel culture
Cancel culture isn't real, is just white hysteria
Let’s all just call them by their name…simples!
@@cowbow4246 Wow, that's a bit harsh isn't it? Seems perfectly reasonable to me to try and avoid any pronoun slipups and just call someone by their name.
What's the matter with you?
@@wtrgypsy4533 sorry I wrote it late last night and I must have clicked on the wrong comment, I feel bad now.
@@cowbow4246 Ah, I see. It did seem a bit out of whack.
ok so i feel as if i was born in the 1960s...i was born in 90s yes but thats besides the point of what year i was born on the inside. I am sick of being assumed im a millennial simply because i was born in the 90s. It triggers me,....i want no association with this snowflake offended generation...im just beyond tears....i want people to affirm that i was born in the 60s...but they wont because I dont look like I was born then! UGH! how dare people tell me I cant change reality or fact
If only everyone was as intelligent and articulate as Jordan Peterson THEN we wouldn't have to legislate things like this. The fact is, the majority of the world's population are NOT. The majority are ignorant and arrogant therefore governments will continue to legislate 🤷♀️
IF only Jordan Peterson could tell the truth. That would be a reasonable start.
I agree with Jordan.
This was posted 5 years ago; how many people in Canada have been arrested for using the wrong pronouns?
None. He completely misrepresented the Bill and Canadian law.
SJW = The bullied have become the bullies.
Why can’t she just use people’s pronouns
freedom of speech goes out of the window when talking to snowflakes
the term "moronic" can mean anything these days. love you too :*
@@TheRevWillNotBeTelevised Freedom is more important than feelings. Consequences should exist, but they should be limited.
@@TheRevWillNotBeTelevised You don't solve this issue through censoring. You solve it through societal changes in behaviour in the next generations or even the current ones.
@@nielsnielsen9013
true a natural acceptance and not forcing people
@@TheRevWillNotBeTelevised
tyranny?? who is the one who used tyranny
it is okay to destroy people life for the pursuit of happiness like the BAKER versus gay couple
or the teachers who were fired due to misgendering their students they don't used gender pronounds because they were uncomfortable and for respect they call them to their preferred name
those LGBT don't like to be called in their preferred name but a preferred pronouns which a violation of freedom of speech in the usa
How is calling a man, a man , stumbling?
Using special pronouns offends me.
See, two can play that game.
That's a great response. If I ever come into contact with a "non binary" person, I'll use this when they demand I play make belief
@@barringtonfisher87 Or insist that they call you 'Boss' 'Sir' or 'Lord' otherwise you'll feel invalidated ha! (See my comment above).
@@goldeneddie good idea. I feel like a sir!!! Sir will do
@@barringtonfisher87 Yessir Mr Ryan Sir! And you can refer to me as 'O Glorious One' haha! Or be PUNISHED BY LAW!! Ha harrr! Hey, hang on...that DOES feel good.... maybe these guys (err gals..?) are onto something.....!
@@goldeneddie did you just assume their gender? You're in trouble now
The alphabet Mafia is insane
This is called tyranny of the minority.
I agree with every word Jordan is saying. So glad this man is prominent in public debate, he speaks total sense.
We all refuse it. No explanation needed.
I really want to be clear on stuff that many people keep bringing up to still be relevant in their places and making things comlpicated, Sir Jordan P is my role model. I wanna be as clear in speaking as him bruh 😭
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Just got into a fight with my gf because I refuse to call her brother by his trans name but instead as his name given by his parents
Shocker you're a disrespectful people don't like it
Yeah, no..... not convinced you have a gf.
@@wtrgypsy4533 You think only people who agree with your fringe politics are capable of relationships?
The parable of the Emperor's new clothes comes to mind.
I understand its a bit apples to oranges, but i kind of wish a trans person would publicly refuse to call him DOCTOR and film his (non?)reaction
Free speech. Bottom line.
I would gladly refer to someone as she, he, or they because it is already in the English language, but not any other of the custom pronouns. Asking someone to remember more than a dozen pronouns and their conjugations is ridiculous and too taxing on an individual. If a trans person wants to be referred to as an alternative pronoun, stick to they.
Surely a trans person should be allowed to us any pronoun? You don't have to, but why can't someone ask to be called 'ze' if they want?
I love how all of my opinions always turn out to be backed up by Jordan Peterson himself.
Forget pronouns. I'm still trying to figure out what Jordan Peterson actually does for a living.
Was that a diss of some sort. he is a neurologist and professor at a university
He’s not a neurologist. A neurologist is a licensed MD a doctor, who specializes in disorders and diseases of the brain, central nervous system and peripheral nervous system.
@@lauraspaeth3079 oh my bad, since he talked about brain a lot and is a doctor, i thought he might've been a neurologist. Anyways i just double checked he is a clinical psychologist, a professor and a writer. Main profession is psychologist.
@@Ahmee_x AKA f**** around all day
He is he and she is she point blank period
trans guy is he and trans girl is she also
You do know non-binary trans people exist right? Some trans people don't go from male to female or female to male because gender is a spectrum. They can go from female to non-binary or male to non-binary. There more genders outside of "he" and "she".
Any person who is unable to accept herself... himself....as the way a person is born....is a coward....
But they are born trans you fecking idiot. It's 2023. There's no excuse for being so uneducated about a topic you care so much about
@@pulpficti found the coward
The interviewer needs to keep his head movement to a minimum whilst on the mic, it’s extremely frustrating audio wise
Wow... imagine logic
I'll use your desired pronouns, but I might snicker while I do it.
😂😂😂😂
That's probably the reason it is being forced on people. Immature idiots like you bullying and discriminating against trans etc.
Then... you're still being disrespectful?
When freedom of speech hinders freedom of speech