The essence of being a Quaker is that you are responsible for determining your own relationship with God. Christmas does not have to be a religous holiday but an opportunity to be with one's family and give gifts. I pray through out every day and there is not much time I don't spend trying to improve myself and please God. Christmas time is a great time to love on everyone and have fun.
This is very interesting to me. My mothers family came to Pennsylvania in the 1680’s as Quakers and were prominent in their community even having woman preachers and numerous members fought in the revolutionary war and the Civil war. These people were so strong to their faith.
Actually, Jesus was born in a house, in the area where livestock were kept, and the so-called inn was a guestroom, but it was still a humble beginning.
That guy is focusing on the wrong thing; and his info is inaccurate...There's a reason three wise men; who knew what was up literally, came to visit the baby Jesus.
Thank you for sharing such measured ideas and responses. Will there be a future video featuring folks speaking about how they don't cerebrate holidays?
A lot of Christmas traditions are taken from pagan celebrations about the return of light in nature. For people who follow Jesus--he represents the same in humanity. Coming from the Creator, I see no problem with amalgamating the two in gentle and simple celebrations.
IDK, an important part of being Quaker is keeping things simple..not saying TikTok is forbidden by any means by us Quakers, but it just seems like another thing to clutter up life.
My interpretation of Christmas had always been a time where I would really reflect on and give thanks for the relationship I have with my family, Unfortunately this year we have been unable to travel in Scotland because of Covid so I will be spending Christmas alone for the first time in my life. I am searching what this experience has to teach me and others.
Joseph and Mary were not undocumented immigrants. The Roman Emperor declared all people go to their birth place to be counted for the census. This makes me sad as a Quaker that you don't even have basic Biblical literacy. I am also a life long Quaker.
I believe they are referencing the flight of Jesus and his family shortly after his birth "“After they were gone, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream, saying, ‘Get up! Take the child and his mother, flee to Egypt, and stay there until I tell you. For Herod is about to search for the child to kill him.’ 14 So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night, and escaped to Egypt. 15 He stayed there until Herod’s death, so that what was spoken by the Lord through the prophet might be fulfilled: Out of Egypt I called my Son.”"
I feel like this video could have a better title. Primitive Friends didn't celebrate Christmas, in the present tense most Friends do, and that's all less interesting than why it's changed. I say change the title, and only the title, because the interesting question is already what the video is about and you cover it very well!
Forgive my lack of knowledge, but what do Quakers believe about Jesus Christ, as the only sinless son of God, and our infinite, Savior and Redeemer. What do they teach about Christ willingly going to the agony on the cross for our sins, thus making repentance and salvation possible to all who sincerely repent and follow him and his teachings. What about His glorious resurrection. What Bible do Quakers read and study? I believe the more we learn about and from one another, the easier it could be to find understanding, respect and peace, whether or not we agree. We can disagree without being rude and hurtful. Hope get some answers. Thanks so much!
I am reminded that Yhwh himself directed Israel to celebrate times, seasons, and the blessings and manifest action of The One True God in their lives. Unfortunately, European Christians added a bit of baby Jesus to various pagan winter tests and called it a religious holiday.
if one is to celebrate Yashuas birth, then the date of birth should come into consideration. christ-mass was created by constantine the king of his time, so he could attain votes. whereas Yashua was born in spring, which was between february and april. and he died in april too. if we are to celebrate such a holiday, we should see where the origin of such holidays comes from, and we should follow festivities that are recorded in the scriptures, which many people don't today, and these were followed by Yashua himself too. blessings to all.
@@michaelbaughman4017 it was not possible for Jesus to be born in Bethlehem during the Feast of Tabernacles, because Joseph, as an observant Jew, would have had to be in Jerusalem that week. It is as simple as that. Proposing that the Feast of Tabernacles corresponded with the birth of Jesus for reasons rooted in typology or analogy is a non-starter, because Joseph would not have gone to Bethlehem at that time, nor would the Romans have purposely riled up the Jews by forcing them to gather for a census when one of their major festivals took place. Blessings
If you want to be a strikebreaker And celebrate Christmas as a Quaker go as a holidaymaker to Jamaica. But if you want to stay in a spiritual box then dear believer cut off your locks and follow Mr Fox😍💗🤍
This is without understanding. You claim that Christ's birth is based on the Gregorian calendar of Roman Catholicism? What about God's calendar? What about HIS Holy Days. This is anti-Christ and anti-Biblical
Forgive my ignorance, What do Quakers believe about Jesus Christ? Do they believe that though Jesus lived among imperfect men and women, He was the only begotten of the Father who was sinless. Because of this He suffered the unimaginable pains of ALL men and women as he hung on the cross, till He knew it was finished! This He did to make repentance and salvation possible to those who in faith, hope and sincerity of heart would ask for forgiveness and strive live
I CAN SPEAK ONLY FOR MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE SCRIPTURES WHICH I BELIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT TEACHES ME...I AM NO ONE TO JUDGE OTHERS🙏 JESUS CHRIST NOR DID THE DISCIPLES CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS.......CHRISTMAS WAS CELEBRATED 250 YEARS BEFORE JESUS CHRIST WAS BORN.......PAGANS CELEBRATED CHRISTMAS TO HONOR THEIR SUNGOD AND THEY WORSHIPPED THE SUN ☀️.......THE “CATHOLICS DOCUMENTED” THE HOLIDAY AS PAGAN AND THEY CLEARLY STATED THEY ACCEPTED THE CHRISTMAS HOLDAY IN THEIR CHURCH TO HELP WELCOME PAGANS AS MEMBERS OF THE CATHOLIC RELIGION...THE PREIST ALSO DOCUMENTED THEY THEMSELVES ALSO CHANGED THE SABBATH OVER TO SUNDAY AND CLEARLY STATED THAT NOWHERE IN THE SCRIPTURES WOULD BE FIND SUNDAY AS THE SABBATH, THAT JESUS CHRIST & THE DISCIPLES ATTENDED THE TEMPLE ON THE SABBATH. IT IS AMAZING HOW WE HAVE SO MANY RELIGIONS BUT GOD CLEARLY STATES THEIR IS ONLY ONE CHURCH THAT JESUS CHRIST TAUGHT AND THE GATES OF HELL WILL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT 🙏 JESUS CHRIST SAID: THE WHOLE WORLD 🌍 IS DECEIVED BY SATAN AND I AGREE WITH GOD 🙏♥️✔️ I PRAY THAT GOD OUR FATHER WILL OPEN THE EYES OF PEOPLE WITH HIS TRUTH 🙏 AGAIN I AM NOT CALLED TO JUDGE ANYONE, I PRAY, FOLLOW THE SCRIPTURES AS I BELIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GUIDING ME AND I STRIVE TO LIVE A CHRISTIAN LIFESTYLE TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY... GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES 🇺🇸🙏♥️ GOD BLESS WE HIS PEOPLE 🙏♥️🙏
I really find the teaching that Yeshuah was poor and marginalized SO demeaning! Joseph may actually have had plenty of money with him!! He was an established carpenter!! But THERE WAS NO PLACE LEFT!! By the time they arrived all “” the hotels, motels, inns, B&B’s WERE FULL!! Duh! Besides, when my horse was I’ll I slept in the barn/stable! Better under a roof of any sort than by the side of the road!
The essence of being a Quaker is that you are responsible for determining your own relationship with God. Christmas does not have to be a religous holiday but an opportunity to be with one's family and give gifts. I pray through out every day and there is not much time I don't spend trying to improve myself and please God. Christmas time is a great time to love on everyone and have fun.
This is very interesting to me. My mothers family came to Pennsylvania in the 1680’s as Quakers and were prominent in their community even having woman preachers and numerous members fought in the revolutionary war and the Civil war. These people were so strong to their faith.
Actually, Jesus was born in a house, in the area where livestock were kept, and the so-called inn was a guestroom, but it was still a humble beginning.
That guy is focusing on the wrong thing; and his info is inaccurate...There's a reason three wise men; who knew what was up literally, came to visit the baby Jesus.
Thank you for sharing such measured ideas and responses. Will there be a future video featuring folks speaking about how they don't cerebrate holidays?
Thanks for sharing this as I am learning :)
A lot of Christmas traditions are taken from pagan celebrations about the return of light in nature. For people who follow Jesus--he represents the same in humanity. Coming from the Creator, I see no problem with amalgamating the two in gentle and simple celebrations.
I would love to see QuakerSpeak do something on TikTok ❤️
IDK, an important part of being Quaker is keeping things simple..not saying TikTok is forbidden by any means by us Quakers, but it just seems like another thing to clutter up life.
My interpretation of Christmas had always been a time where I would really reflect on and give thanks for the relationship I have with my family, Unfortunately this year we have been unable to travel in Scotland because of Covid so I will be spending Christmas alone for the first time in my life. I am searching what this experience has to teach me and others.
That was great! Thanks!
Joseph and Mary were not undocumented immigrants. The Roman Emperor declared all people go to their birth place to be counted for the census.
This makes me sad as a Quaker that you don't even have basic Biblical literacy.
I am also a life long Quaker.
and Jesus did not have to be born poor -- God chose for him to be born poor
I believe they are referencing the flight of Jesus and his family shortly after his birth "“After they were gone, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream, saying, ‘Get up! Take the child and his mother, flee to Egypt, and stay there until I tell you. For Herod is about to search for the child to kill him.’ 14 So he got up, took the child and his mother during the night, and escaped to Egypt. 15 He stayed there until Herod’s death, so that what was spoken by the Lord through the prophet might be fulfilled: Out of Egypt I called my Son.”"
@@kingcanary1567 but they were not undocumented immigrants -- it would be like them traveling from one US state to another .
@@emmib1388: No, going from Israel to Egypt wasn’t the same as going to a different state.
@@salyluz6535 Please explain why it was not the same....
Good to know.
I feel like this video could have a better title. Primitive Friends didn't celebrate Christmas, in the present tense most Friends do, and that's all less interesting than why it's changed.
I say change the title, and only the title, because the interesting question is already what the video is about and you cover it very well!
Forgive my lack of knowledge, but what do Quakers believe about Jesus Christ, as the only sinless son of God, and our infinite, Savior and Redeemer. What do they teach about Christ willingly going to the agony on the cross for our sins, thus making repentance and salvation possible to all who sincerely repent and follow him and his teachings. What about His glorious resurrection. What Bible do Quakers read and study? I believe the more we learn about and from one another, the easier it could be to find understanding, respect and peace, whether or not we agree. We can disagree without being rude and hurtful. Hope get some answers. Thanks so much!
Christ in you the hope of glory!
You are a Bethlehem!
Invite the Word daily not once a year!
I think that I am very closely a believer in the same style of believes as you friends.... (interesting)
Great video :)
Thank you, for your thoughts about a Wonderful Holiday in the Christian platform....reality.
I am reminded that Yhwh himself directed Israel to celebrate times, seasons, and the blessings and manifest action of The One True God in their lives. Unfortunately, European Christians added a bit of baby Jesus to various pagan winter tests and called it a religious holiday.
if one is to celebrate Yashuas birth, then the date of birth should come into consideration. christ-mass was created by constantine the king of his time, so he could attain votes. whereas Yashua was born in spring, which was between february and april. and he died in april too. if we are to celebrate such a holiday, we should see where the origin of such holidays comes from, and we should follow festivities that are recorded in the scriptures, which many people don't today, and these were followed by Yashua himself too. blessings to all.
well said
@@michaelbaughman4017 it was not possible for Jesus to be born in Bethlehem during the Feast of Tabernacles, because Joseph, as an observant Jew, would have had to be in Jerusalem that week. It is as simple as that. Proposing that the Feast of Tabernacles corresponded with the birth of Jesus for reasons rooted in typology or analogy is a non-starter, because Joseph would not have gone to Bethlehem at that time, nor would the Romans have purposely riled up the Jews by forcing them to gather for a census when one of their major festivals took place. Blessings
Christmas is not a “holy day” appointed by the Lord, but a “holiday” approved and advanced by man!
If you want to be a strikebreaker And celebrate Christmas as a Quaker go
as a holidaymaker to Jamaica.
But if you want to stay in a spiritual box then dear believer cut
off your locks and
follow Mr Fox😍💗🤍
Yes, and their favorite Christmas gift they hope to receive.....is a tall, round container of Oats with a picture of Ben Franklin on the front of it!
🔱✨🕊🌬
💚💚💚
Are Quakers still pacifists? If they are to what extend?
To the extent of not going to war, working for peace and justice, and helping those who suffer because of war.
@@salyluz6535 Are there any people with different opinions among you regarding this subject or is being against wars is a must to become a Quaker.
This is without understanding. You claim that Christ's birth is based on the Gregorian calendar of Roman Catholicism? What about God's calendar? What about HIS Holy Days. This is anti-Christ and anti-Biblical
Forgive my ignorance, What do Quakers believe about Jesus Christ? Do they believe that though Jesus lived among imperfect men and women, He was the only begotten of the Father who was sinless. Because of this He suffered the unimaginable pains of ALL men and women as he hung on the cross, till He knew it was finished! This He did to make repentance and salvation possible to those who in faith, hope and sincerity of heart would ask for forgiveness and strive live
I CAN SPEAK ONLY FOR MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE SCRIPTURES WHICH I BELIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT TEACHES ME...I AM NO ONE TO JUDGE OTHERS🙏
JESUS CHRIST NOR DID THE DISCIPLES CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS.......CHRISTMAS WAS CELEBRATED 250 YEARS BEFORE JESUS CHRIST WAS BORN.......PAGANS CELEBRATED CHRISTMAS TO HONOR THEIR SUNGOD AND THEY WORSHIPPED THE SUN ☀️.......THE “CATHOLICS DOCUMENTED” THE HOLIDAY AS PAGAN AND THEY CLEARLY STATED THEY ACCEPTED THE CHRISTMAS HOLDAY IN THEIR CHURCH TO HELP WELCOME PAGANS AS MEMBERS OF THE CATHOLIC RELIGION...THE PREIST ALSO DOCUMENTED THEY THEMSELVES ALSO CHANGED THE SABBATH OVER TO SUNDAY AND CLEARLY STATED THAT NOWHERE IN THE SCRIPTURES WOULD BE FIND SUNDAY AS THE SABBATH, THAT JESUS CHRIST & THE DISCIPLES ATTENDED THE TEMPLE ON THE SABBATH.
IT IS AMAZING HOW WE HAVE SO MANY RELIGIONS BUT GOD CLEARLY STATES THEIR IS ONLY ONE CHURCH THAT JESUS CHRIST TAUGHT AND THE GATES OF HELL WILL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT 🙏 JESUS CHRIST SAID: THE WHOLE WORLD 🌍 IS DECEIVED BY SATAN AND I AGREE WITH GOD 🙏♥️✔️
I PRAY THAT GOD OUR FATHER WILL OPEN THE EYES OF PEOPLE WITH HIS TRUTH 🙏
AGAIN I AM NOT CALLED TO JUDGE ANYONE, I PRAY, FOLLOW THE SCRIPTURES AS I BELIEVE THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GUIDING ME AND I STRIVE TO LIVE A CHRISTIAN LIFESTYLE TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY...
GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES 🇺🇸🙏♥️
GOD BLESS WE HIS PEOPLE 🙏♥️🙏
can u not force ur religion on us?
GOD BLESS US ALL
Undocumented? Please read your bible.
I really find the teaching that Yeshuah was poor and marginalized SO demeaning! Joseph may actually have had plenty of money with him!! He was an established carpenter!! But THERE WAS NO PLACE LEFT!! By the time they arrived all “” the hotels, motels, inns, B&B’s WERE FULL!! Duh! Besides, when my horse was I’ll I slept in the barn/stable! Better under a roof of any sort than by the side of the road!