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Create uniform glue thickness by adding a small concentration of sieved sold glass microballs as distributed spacers. How is Deep Sea Chamber 10 000 000 doing these days? Can we exceed one nautical mile crush depth? On this end we have a cylindrical, spherical, ellipsoidal, and tear drop wine bottle being readied. A letter and an e-mail have been sent. Squeeze! Puristaa! Murskata! Luhistaa!
For real bro for real,especially super glue I'll be wanting to fix broken stuff or glueing something together and the gule will goes "yo want to stick those two part together? Nah I'll stick it both to anywhere else but there instead" and then laguhing at my face.
I can reliably report that model airplane glue sticks to the model airplane. Also to the newspaper I spread on the table to catch drips, the table, the tablecloth, three of the six chairs around the table, the floor under the table, and especially to Newfoundland dogs. That was the last time I ever got a model anything for Christmas. Honestly, I didn't mind. It took me a week to get all the fur off my fingers.
That company have a pretty clever marketing department. NOBODY will ever forget their logo and initials. On plastic, the glue or cement will often create a stronger chemical bond than on other materials. For the wood, it's not the glue that failed, it's the wood that broke.
WTF = Work Time Fun! I do material testing and one of the test I do is ASTM D638 when you start having breakaway issues on one side it’s usually due to the specimen is offset with the center of force.
I work in am auto body shop and some of the 2 part epoxies are very strong. 3M has 8115 and 8116 panel bond that is really good. Also 7333. These would be cool to try that with. Other manufacturers have similar products, Lord Fusior and Sems
8:20 I think you need some kind of primer for the brick if you want to have strong glueing results. I think the primer is basically very thin glue which gets partially soaked into the porous material and then the actual glue sticks to this partially soaked material. Still definitely weaker than steel but should be stronger bond than wood.
I think you probably should have used red brick instead. That looked like concrete brick, which is not ceramic. The concrete brick had the glue stick to the outside powdery bit which comes free easy.
What is the strength of two pieces of plastic glued together? You tested steel to steel, but then determined it adhered better to plastic. Also, what if you deliberately scuff or roughen the plastic. Many adhesives when being used on smoother surfaces, have instructions to roughen the area with sandpaper or such.
I was taught that when gluing those kinds of things together, you take a small piece of sandpaper and lightly rough up the surface, makes a better bond.
I have to second WoodworkerDon...adhesive sticks best to what you don't want it to. I had at work a couple "scratch and dent" icemakers that my boss got dirt cheap. One had a little more trouble than just scratches and dents - the door was slightly warped and the lip gasket didn't sit flush when closed. So I deviced a plan that I gently applied a masking tape, then a clear plastic tape on that, on the opposing surface, and a gentle wipe of coconut oil on the plastic tape, then made a bead of silicone caulk on the non-sealing part of the gasket and let it close carefully. What I learned here: Coconut oil didn't keep that grade of silly-cone from bonding the plastic tape much harder than I expected. I eventually got it off without ripping the caulk off the gasket though. But the second thing, the masking tape had stuck hard on the opposing surface and took off some of the rubbery coating. It worked but wasn't aesthetically very great. Both machines went WEEE a couple years ago, but I took the adjustable leg pegs and the power cables off them because they can be very useful elsewhere.
Would love to see you test using the same amount of glue but on one part press it together to get a tinner but wider section of glue vs narrower and thicker.
This applies to using ABS glue on 3D printed parts as well. I slathered two parts in glue and just pressed them together with my hands and let to cure. And another two I clamped with some spring clamps. The clamped objects would break apart with just my hands. The others broke at the plastic not the weld joint.
This is a good experiment. I'd like to see you use. Red Locktite, Indian Head gasket adhesive, and 3M windshield adhesive. They are all strong and they would be great video also. I don't know if they are available in Iceland but in America they are everywhere including all parts stores and online. Great video and very informative.
Cement typically glues stone the best. It’s not the material that determines the “best to glue” it’s the combination of glue and material. There’s (almost) a glue for every material.
@@pRahvi0 sometimes glueing metals is better than welding, especially when the metals are dissimilar (and causing galvanic corrosion), or when welding would cause unwanted changes in metal characteristics. So it is not a golden rule
@@Mus.Anonymouse That's true, but I mean, if there are already two different materials, the "glue" must by definition differ from at least one of them. So, the best option i.e. the metal itself is out of the question from the start because it's logically impossible for it to be same as both. A hybrid from between them is often used but, like you said, sometimes they must be kept strictly separate... in which case it's arguably more about joining non-metallic coatings - that just so happen to consist of the glue itself... but that's a philosophical question more about semantics than engineering so I'll leave it to that.
Next time you do the glue, put a bead around the outside in move the pieces back-and-forth and then press them together and let them dry. It will make the bond stronger.
Hi. That was a great video, really tough adhesive, I checked their site and they already have a US seller. Love the videos. Cheers from Montreal Canada,. another Very Cold place in winter 😉
I've been watching your vids a while now and have always found them visually and mentally amusing, and I never thought I'd have a request until today while looking for hex drive threaded insert nuts for a cherry wood bunk bed I'm building for my little one. I really want something that won't corode and more importantly Is strong, and this is when I thought of your channel. If you ever need an extra idea different types of metal for hex drive insert nuts for wood like 304 stainless, brass, zinc alloy, etc would be awesome. Either way I still enjoy your vids and will totally understand if this idea does not make it on your channel. Happy Pressin dude and be safe dude.
Joint strength does not get higher the thicker the adhesive layer is. There is an optimum thickness and it is quite thin for most adhesives (not 3mm) Bond line thickness for structural applications when using structural adhesives. Bondline thickness for smaller DIY projects, contact adhesives and packaging adhesives would be very different. An effective bondline thickness for joints under a static load is between 0.5mm and 2mm. An effective bondline thickness for joints under a dynamic load is above 2mm and rarely more than 4mm.
WOW!! That first test was VERY impressive! 2200 LBS?! And it stayed bonded to the steel surface. Your Hydraulic Press (MASSIVE Tonnage) made it look gooey but that stuff (WTF) is rugged! 🥰🤩🧐🤔🤨😃 So, WTF can I get some? 🤣😂
If you ever try concrete brick or the like again spray it with some cheap clear coat before you glue it up. Concreate brick and other stone is very dusty/chalky sealing it with cheap clear coat or concrete / stone sealer will held the glue bond. The clear coat or sealer will soak in to the pores of the stone/concrete and the glue will bond to it and should give you fairly strong bonds. You could also use thin ca glue poured on and let to dry as well basically any thing that will seal the pores and bond the dust from the stone etc to the err stone lol
The metal fk-ery is catalyzation and/or polymerization and depends. Trashbags have titanium in them often. Nickel is a hydrogenater (margarine). Lead was in "drying" oils.
Linseed is a drying oil. Just means it eventually hardens. Linseed takes weeks to dry raw (untreated) they mostly boil it now, but there's something else added (most likely not lead).
Hello. It is important to say what type of plastic is used. For example, superglue does not sit well on nylon or plastic trim that you find inside many cars. Polyurethane glue sticks well to some types of plastic but not as well to certain types of plastic. Same with metals.
Persistent hangers are SUPPOSED to be only on planets! You have public hangers in space. You can move your things to the new station. But it's a public hanger. You inventory will still be private though
If I close my eyes, Hannah sounds exactly like a Minion 🤓 and if I open my eyes it's not hard to see felonious Gru working with the despicable Press 😂💥
WTFuck around and WTFind out... That's my guess on how Lauri's broken finger occurred. 😊 _(I'm definitely not implying it happened as a result of the glue, just using that as a play on words! lol)_
A traditional brick made of clay may have better adhesion than one made from concrete since concrete is made of sand and lime which generate a lot of dust
Young's Modulus of Elasticity or why you can't pull a worm out of the soil, the thicker glue allows the tensions forces to be distributed. Fun test for smooth surfaces.
The thing about glues is they are engineered to stick best to certain materials. For example wood glue is specifically engineered to glue wood best, usually resulting in a bond that is stronger than the wood itself, so it's not exactly a fair test to use one type of glue for a variety of materials it wasn't made for.
have you guys done a supercritical compression test or visual compression? like compressing 3,000 psi gas into a liquid? it would be better if it could be done in glass so you can see it compress into a liquid. curious.
@@Delibro This is true. Comment would have made more sense if Laurie sold his own line of glue, as Bob Ross sold his own line of paint. Not sure if that's still obscure knowledge. I learned of Bob Ross's line of pain only 5 years ago after 35 years of him being on television. (They had no advertising on the TV channel I watched him on)
Also Laurie with a convincing fro and pressing technique and narration would sell the glue. (He could really 'scare' the panted glue out of a paint brush with a press like that. Though at this point the idea has gotten weird.
@BOOSTED70KG oh wow, yeah i didn't watch much of his video's anymore lately, not sure why, i guess work. Did you know what that video was called roughly? I'm pretty curious. I mean ofcourse i respect the decision :)
@-never-gonna-give-you-up- I couldn't find the video, but he also put out a picture of his wedding photo with Anne, and a divorce photo. #divorcepictures
There would be different results if both surfaces were always thick enough to not flex and distort. Twisting and bending makes the load unequal -like how you can tear a phonebook in half.
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Your experiments are awesome
Create uniform glue thickness by adding a small concentration of sieved sold glass microballs as distributed spacers.
How is Deep Sea Chamber 10 000 000 doing these days? Can we exceed one nautical mile crush depth? On this end we have a cylindrical, spherical, ellipsoidal, and tear drop wine bottle being readied. A letter and an e-mail have been sent. Squeeze! Puristaa! Murskata! Luhistaa!
Discount code should have been "chemicalfuckery"😂
Glue sticks BEST to everything you are NOT trying to glue together. Fingers. Clothes. Hair. Tools, Kitchen counters. Etc. 😉
I forgot to test out those ones :D
Cat
For real bro for real,especially super glue I'll be wanting to fix broken stuff or glueing something together and the gule will goes "yo want to stick those two part together? Nah I'll stick it both to anywhere else but there instead" and then laguhing at my face.
@@BibboRacing96 ANY furry friend. Not just cat.
I can reliably report that model airplane glue sticks to the model airplane. Also to the newspaper I spread on the table to catch drips, the table, the tablecloth, three of the six chairs around the table, the floor under the table, and especially to Newfoundland dogs.
That was the last time I ever got a model anything for Christmas. Honestly, I didn't mind. It took me a week to get all the fur off my fingers.
"chemical fuckery" 😂 an industry *standard term
I'm going to start using this term at work.
That’s my favorite kind of fuckery.😉
If WTF glue company has the trust and the balls, they should sponsor a video of glues against glues.
I'd say tye go against 3m, loctite and jb weld products
@@albertobu and Acralock 2k glue
Yup. "Put your money where your mouth is!"
(not that they're talking trash, but still, it's a good saying!)
3M, Loctite, Gorillaglue, erikeeper and hotglue.
That company have a pretty clever marketing department. NOBODY will ever forget their logo and initials.
On plastic, the glue or cement will often create a stronger chemical bond than on other materials. For the wood, it's not the glue that failed, it's the wood that broke.
YES! Good glue like Elmer's, will hold even when the wood fibers separate. As strong as a Hoof!!
@@jlucasound The wood fails, not the glue.
WTF = Work Time Fun!
I do material testing and one of the test I do is ASTM D638 when you start having breakaway issues on one side it’s usually due to the specimen is offset with the center of force.
such a great PSP game.
You can always tell it's a sponsored video when Lauri doesn't give a fuck about demonetization lol
Researchers: "Chemical adhesion."
Laurie: "Chemical fuckery."
Musicians: "Chemical Brothers."
I love Finnish people always have the best humor!
We have 100 years of USA movie experiences to learn universal humor. You hardly can stand humor before it. I can`t.
I work in am auto body shop and some of the 2 part epoxies are very strong. 3M has 8115 and 8116 panel bond that is really good. Also 7333. These would be cool to try that with. Other manufacturers have similar products, Lord Fusior and Sems
Especially the 07333 has a somewhat nasty SDS. It's effective, I'm sure, but requires a bit more care than they have at a typical metal workshop.
8:20 I think you need some kind of primer for the brick if you want to have strong glueing results. I think the primer is basically very thin glue which gets partially soaked into the porous material and then the actual glue sticks to this partially soaked material. Still definitely weaker than steel but should be stronger bond than wood.
"Chemical Fuckery" is the technical term when adhesive failure occurs.
After joining your channels many years ago, I always thought WTF should be changed worldwide to VDF. 😎👍
Vott da fook!
@@christomashofski9160 CORRECT!! I always spelled it in my head Vat De Fook
WTF=Welcome To Finland!
"Nice crack job" she cracks me up 😂
Excellent life advice at 5:29 from Lauri. You should always have your nuts sticking up when you have thick wood.
😂😂😂
I thought I understood ambiguous sentences, but not this time :)
🤣
Now Project Farm needs to get this glue tested
1:20 Love some flavoured glue
Hanna with glue gun reminds me of Linda Hamilton as Sarah Connor 💪
lol those custom made pictures of wood brick concrete (that were shown in the top left corner) were so awesome!
I think you probably should have used red brick instead. That looked like concrete brick, which is not ceramic. The concrete brick had the glue stick to the outside powdery bit which comes free easy.
Great video and one that actually tests the sponsored product.
I don't know why but that secret agent briefcase full of WTF Glue cracked me up, it's awesome lol.
"That secret agent briefcase" 😂😂
But yea you'r right :D
SPONSORED BY "what the fuck glue" hahahah BEST sponsored content ever made
Well that depends what type of Glue obviously!
Nothing beats Dried on weetabix
Exactly, as if there’s only one type of glue 😂
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As a chemist, I approve of "chemical fuckery," both the phrase and chemical fuckery itself.
As always thank you. I know you guys put in a lot of hard work to make and publish these videos. They are greatly appreciated. 🙂
What is the strength of two pieces of plastic glued together? You tested steel to steel, but then determined it adhered better to plastic.
Also, what if you deliberately scuff or roughen the plastic. Many adhesives when being used on smoother surfaces, have instructions to roughen the area with sandpaper or such.
I was taught that when gluing those kinds of things together, you take a small piece of sandpaper and lightly rough up the surface, makes a better bond.
Really enjoyed this one.
4:35 "hey!!!" 😄👍🏼
It's also highly dependent on the surface finish of the materials. A mirror finish on metal probably won't bond very well.
Definitely WTF territory here! 😂👍
I have to second WoodworkerDon...adhesive sticks best to what you don't want it to.
I had at work a couple "scratch and dent" icemakers that my boss got dirt cheap. One had a little more trouble than just scratches and dents - the door was slightly warped and the lip gasket didn't sit flush when closed. So I deviced a plan that I gently applied a masking tape, then a clear plastic tape on that, on the opposing surface, and a gentle wipe of coconut oil on the plastic tape, then made a bead of silicone caulk on the non-sealing part of the gasket and let it close carefully. What I learned here: Coconut oil didn't keep that grade of silly-cone from bonding the plastic tape much harder than I expected. I eventually got it off without ripping the caulk off the gasket though. But the second thing, the masking tape had stuck hard on the opposing surface and took off some of the rubbery coating. It worked but wasn't aesthetically very great. Both machines went WEEE a couple years ago, but I took the adjustable leg pegs and the power cables off them because they can be very useful elsewhere.
You should try this with superglue! I think it will be a lot stronger, but is there any way to press slower with the press?
Would love to see you test using the same amount of glue but on one part press it together to get a tinner but wider section of glue vs narrower and thicker.
This applies to using ABS glue on 3D printed parts as well.
I slathered two parts in glue and just pressed them together with my hands and let to cure. And another two I clamped with some spring clamps. The clamped objects would break apart with just my hands. The others broke at the plastic not the weld joint.
Better title: Putting my caulk under the hydraulic press!
Great channel!
thicker = better. Got it.
I always glue things together with 100% silicone. It holds great on everything, waterproof, cold and heat resistant. Can't go wrong with 100% silicone
This is a good experiment. I'd like to see you use. Red Locktite, Indian Head gasket adhesive, and 3M windshield adhesive. They are all strong and they would be great video also. I don't know if they are available in Iceland but in America they are everywhere including all parts stores and online. Great video and very informative.
Cement typically glues stone the best. It’s not the material that determines the “best to glue” it’s the combination of glue and material. There’s (almost) a glue for every material.
Well, yeah, you're gluing rocks with rocks.
The best material to glue metal with is the metal itself. The process is also known as welding.
@@pRahvi0 sometimes glueing metals is better than welding, especially when the metals are dissimilar (and causing galvanic corrosion), or when welding would cause unwanted changes in metal characteristics.
So it is not a golden rule
@@Mus.Anonymouse That's true, but I mean, if there are already two different materials, the "glue" must by definition differ from at least one of them. So, the best option i.e. the metal itself is out of the question from the start because it's logically impossible for it to be same as both.
A hybrid from between them is often used but, like you said, sometimes they must be kept strictly separate... in which case it's arguably more about joining non-metallic coatings - that just so happen to consist of the glue itself... but that's a philosophical question more about semantics than engineering so I'll leave it to that.
Next time you do the glue, put a bead around the outside in move the pieces back-and-forth and then press them together and let them dry. It will make the bond stronger.
Hi. That was a great video, really tough adhesive, I checked their site and they already have a US seller. Love the videos.
Cheers from Montreal Canada,. another Very Cold place in winter 😉
I've been watching your vids a while now and have always found them visually and mentally amusing, and I never thought I'd have a request until today while looking for hex drive threaded insert nuts for a cherry wood bunk bed I'm building for my little one. I really want something that won't corode and more importantly Is strong, and this is when I thought of your channel. If you ever need an extra idea different types of metal for hex drive insert nuts for wood like 304 stainless, brass, zinc alloy, etc would be awesome. Either way I still enjoy your vids and will totally understand if this idea does not make it on your channel. Happy Pressin dude and be safe dude.
Joint strength does not get higher the thicker the adhesive layer is.
There is an optimum thickness and it is quite thin for most adhesives (not 3mm)
Bond line thickness for structural applications when using structural adhesives. Bondline thickness for smaller DIY projects, contact adhesives and packaging adhesives would be very different.
An effective bondline thickness for joints under a static load is between 0.5mm and 2mm.
An effective bondline thickness for joints under a dynamic load is above 2mm and rarely more than 4mm.
Can you try JB Weld?
Good job team!
WOW!! That first test was VERY impressive! 2200 LBS?! And it stayed bonded to the steel surface.
Your Hydraulic Press (MASSIVE Tonnage) made it look gooey but that stuff (WTF) is rugged!
🥰🤩🧐🤔🤨😃 So, WTF can I get some? 🤣😂
Yea, its nearly a car concentrated with its weight to that small point.
Hello! Have you ever tested the strength of V-belts (drive belts)?
If you ever try concrete brick or the like again spray it with some cheap clear coat before you glue it up. Concreate brick and other stone is very dusty/chalky sealing it with cheap clear coat or concrete / stone sealer will held the glue bond. The clear coat or sealer will soak in to the pores of the stone/concrete and the glue will bond to it and should give you fairly strong bonds. You could also use thin ca glue poured on and let to dry as well basically any thing that will seal the pores and bond the dust from the stone etc to the err stone lol
The metal fk-ery is catalyzation and/or polymerization and depends. Trashbags have titanium in them often. Nickel is a hydrogenater (margarine). Lead was in "drying" oils.
Linseed is a drying oil. Just means it eventually hardens. Linseed takes weeks to dry raw (untreated) they mostly boil it now, but there's something else added (most likely not lead).
WTF! They have GREAT adhesives!! I don't know WTF everybody doesn't use them! 😆😂
That should be on the case lid; "WTF: are you waiting for?".
Would love project farm to do a video on this glue
Hello. It is important to say what type of plastic is used. For example, superglue does not sit well on nylon or plastic trim that you find inside many cars.
Polyurethane glue sticks well to some types of plastic but not as well to certain types of plastic. Same with metals.
He said its polycarbonate ?
What do you do with the items you use on the hydraulic press? Have you ever thought of selling them? Some are pretty cool. Just a thought.
Loved it!
8:20 I noticed with the wood test you've got the camera exposure set to high can't really see anything the light colored objects.
"Different flavour" of glue 😂
Love yor video you to make life more funn
Persistent hangers are SUPPOSED to be only on planets! You have public hangers in space. You can move your things to the new station. But it's a public hanger. You inventory will still be private though
Did you install the old pressure checker? why?
Gluing Granite vs Marble would of been cool
The polycarbonate is at disadvantage due to it's flexing so much. The glue joint isn't stressed evenly.
It's pretty counterintuitive that glue apparently works better on smoother surfaces. And also that a thick glue layer works better.
It’s more a “how far can you push the glue” as it was the only thing that truly broke
If I close my eyes, Hannah sounds exactly like a Minion 🤓 and if I open my eyes it's not hard to see felonious Gru working with the despicable Press 😂💥
Thank you, now I can't unhear that! 😂😂😂
WTFuck around and WTFind out...
That's my guess on how Lauri's broken finger occurred. 😊
_(I'm definitely not implying it happened as a result of the glue, just using that as a play on words! lol)_
"maximum crap"
These lines just keep getting better
Can you push square things thru round holes
Press is perfect for contact glue.
A traditional brick made of clay may have better adhesion than one made from concrete since concrete is made of sand and lime which generate a lot of dust
Crazy videos I love them it’s sick!
Do this again with the press pulling things apart and using 3M VHB Structural Glazing Tape; that stuff holds windows to skyscrapers in Dubai
I would be far more interested in a shear test. Can you do that?
Young's Modulus of Elasticity or why you can't pull a worm out of the soil, the thicker glue allows the tensions forces to be distributed. Fun test for smooth surfaces.
The thing about glues is they are engineered to stick best to certain materials.
For example wood glue is specifically engineered to glue wood best, usually resulting in a bond that is stronger than the wood itself, so it's not exactly a fair test to use one type of glue for a variety of materials it wasn't made for.
Glue sticks to glue pretty well. And your fingers, usually.
Can you please test Lexel glue? And other types of glue.
This is very useful test. Thank you
Project farm channel might have already did a glue test.
@mrbmp09 oh yeah, I watch him. I'll have to check it out
@mrbmp09 I couldn't find a test of lexel from project farm.
have you guys done a supercritical compression test or visual compression? like compressing 3,000 psi gas into a liquid? it would be better if it could be done in glass so you can see it compress into a liquid. curious.
Surface area is more important than thickness.
WTF, are you Bob Ross with your own line of glues now? 🤣
I think Bob Ross has at least two hairs more than Lauri ...
@@Delibro This is true. Comment would have made more sense if Laurie sold his own line of glue, as Bob Ross sold his own line of paint. Not sure if that's still obscure knowledge. I learned of Bob Ross's line of pain only 5 years ago after 35 years of him being on television. (They had no advertising on the TV channel I watched him on)
Also Laurie with a convincing fro and pressing technique and narration would sell the glue. (He could really 'scare' the panted glue out of a paint brush with a press like that. Though at this point the idea has gotten weird.
Its a sticky mindfuck for the material & it will not ne optimal for the material
☮️ ❤
3 MIN?!??!!??! YAY
WTF Is great! HAHAHA👍🏻
TBH that glue is pretty damn strong.
Time to test more glues include shoe repairs glues...
I am glad to hear it does not smell like death. It is not good to have tubes full of stuff that smells like death.
I think wood got a bad shake on this one. The wood bonded so well to the glue that its internal bonds failed before the bond to the glue did.
OK, WTF isn't impressed by this adhesive? 🤣
Chemical fuckery!!!😂😂😂 awesome!!!
I live in the United States. I'll be looking for this adhesive. WTF, why not? 😃
Do some wood on wood glue!
I wonder how the plastic vs steel would have gone if the plastic was roughed up and the steel was smooth.
Is it the same kind of glue that's used in car bodywork?
Where is Anne? Did you break up or something? I think you deleted all the video's with Anne aswell.
Why?
WTF are you talking about?
Yes, Anne is out, this chick is in. There was a video explaining this what, a year ago? They are still friends though.
@BOOSTED70KG oh wow, yeah i didn't watch much of his video's anymore lately, not sure why, i guess work. Did you know what that video was called roughly? I'm pretty curious. I mean ofcourse i respect the decision :)
@-never-gonna-give-you-up- I couldn't find the video, but he also put out a picture of his wedding photo with Anne, and a divorce photo. #divorcepictures
PL300
There would be different results if both surfaces were always thick enough to not flex and distort. Twisting and bending makes the load unequal -like how you can tear a phonebook in half.
Legend has it that hanna is very strong also and the proof is Lauri’s 2 broken fingers 😉