The ending 2 minutes was utterly fascinating. When David says “just be present… children long for a deeper connection with their father,” Andrew’s instant reaction is to ask, “but what would we talk about?” We see from this that Andrew has never really had a real present moment or deeper connection with his father and it’s resulted in the coping method of rationalizing EVERYTHING, which has worked extremely effectively, but has also produced an almost a constant state of delusion. He’s gotten so good at it from a young age that he’s been able to build such a firm world view.
@@silent1823 lol, how is it bad to wish someone go to therapy? If i want negative things to someone, i really wouldn‘t have in mind, to send my enemy to therapy :-) rofl
😊This is my first time seeing andrew owning up to his vulnerabilities and i l love him more for that. The therapist is good at it. I honestly think he should do same with more therapist, probably a series. It will benefit both Andrew and his listeners.
@@julietrabkabro Andrew made his money off of women even with their consent that is still profiting of their body and flying them into a country to do that is not only sex trafficking/human trafficking and pornography. Then he made you pay money to learn how to make money.
It's so heartwarming to see a person with strong protective mechanisms begin to open up. It's like witnessing the blooming of a beautiful flower with thorns. What’s most interesting is that the more he shows his vulnerability, the more you see the real human beneath, with genuine emotions. This creates a space where you truly start to feel empathy for him. Thank you, Andrew, for allowing us to see this side of your personality.
ironically i feel this is the most inspirational Andrew has ever been, when he deeply lays out in detail the mental model in which he uses to see the world. i think andrew should just do podcasts with smart people who keep stretching his thinking and mental models
Agreed! This is also my favourite podcast Andrew has ever done. I had Sneako on my podcast 3 months ago and I’m working towards getting the Tate brothers on next!
Ive never seen someone so expertly condition himself not to admit any vulnerability while at the same time not realizing that his constant proclamations of his own greatness and exaggerated self assurance gives off vibes of deep deep insecurity.
@@MrChaosi that and he may talk to people that stretch his mind, but his mind is set - do and say whatever panders to the base fans he parasites off of through his multilevel marketing (ponzi) scheme.
I can’t emphasize this enough, this is a damn MASTERCLASS of listening to someone and drawing things out that they don’t consciously think about. One of the coolest discussions from Tate and the Therapist.
Bro, it‘s so interesting how the therapist has patience and exactly knows how to talk to a complicated person like Andrew. Really interesting interview
@@Hunterartman13there’s nothing complicated about him. He is a charismatic, confident, intelligent guy who wants to stay relevant through whatever means & become famous. May be it’s all an act, humans do love actors after all 😎& drama off course. Some of the things he says is delusional surely but aren’t we all ? At the end of the day he has achieved what he was pursuing.
I really like this session. Especially the ending. David started to get Tate to be present and you could see him shaking his leg more vigorously out of minor discomfort. One thing I was surprised with is David not expressing that anger is a secondary emotion from sadness, pain, embarrassment, and hurt. A huge drive for Tate is anger and centering it on something useful. Anger is an emotion, pain is a feeling. So his driving factor is sadness/pain.. very interesting. This was awesome. Kudos to both of them
As a therapist i have to say, David does an incredible job here. You can tell, that he really appreciates the conversation although it is absolutely exhausting for him i believe. He asks incredibly good questions and he finds a way to like Andrew as every good therapist should. Thank you David.
What do you find so exhausting about this though..his mindset is pretty rational and formidable all in all.. I think the people that are his opposition are the exhausting ones
@@TheGuym619 The exhausting aspect is not his rationality, but rather his avoidance when it comes to being approachable and having an exchange on equal terms. Conversations with him always have to follow his rules and he avoids any invitation to get emotionally involved in a topic. That makes it exhausting for a therapist sometimes. I felt this way during these types of conversations, of course I can't speak for David.
It's because Andrew won't change and he is especially aware of this while Andrew is in front of his Audience who have bought into his brand / image. I can assure you David has come across far more complicated "challenges" with clients. This is pretty plain to see that Andrew is just delusional but it serves him superficially. He won that prize. As a therapist you want your client to have a breakthrough therefore you are empathetic and want the best for them (live a mentally healthy life). To the average joe that isn't delusional we just find Andrew repulsive.@@ToniGromann
"That's a very good question... Questions I've never been asked before." And THAT is why therapy can be a great thing. There are questions you will never ask yourself.
Your average therapist is gonna prescribe you happy pills the second you say you have any kind of feelings of anxiety or depression. It’s a cope fest designed to mask your feelings rather than resolve them. Therapy is for weak people who can’t handle their feelings.
But his ability to always turn the hard question to benefit him and his world view and answer in a way where he always circle back exactly to assured his point is amazing.
This therapist is amazingly skillful at what he does. He can see right through Andrew but instead of confronting him and say something like "Here because you think like that you're a delusional narcissist" he just plants a seed of thought with non-threatening words like for example 18:50 "he first makes him a very nice compliment almost to melt and disarm him and then just plants a simple "there's a potential for self delusion". He just knows exactly how to communicate with such characters like Andrew.
Yes he may be delusional and narcissistic but I wouldn’t consider those qualities to be negative in him. They actually serve him quite well without those two qualities he wouldn’t be in the position that he’s in.
@@thelonesoldier4518That’s pretty much Philosophy in a nutshell. If you have a different take on something that’s not like the usual then all of sudden “Oh he’s weird, he’s like an alien, he’s a dangerous man.” I don’t watch Andrew Tate at all but even I know that words often get misconstrued.
A great therapist is not one to say the “right things” but one to ask the right questions, to listen, to instigate thoughts in the client organically and to seamlessly lay the armor of the client’s down. Such a fresh breeze of sights with him. Great job!
David actually managed to make Andrew like therapy. He said at the end that he wants to talk to you again. Impressive. Great conversation you guys had, it's a breath of fresh air from all the other Tate interviews that sometimes feel more strategic. Well done
@@geog26 I can tell you it was definitely a therapy session. I had the same parenting from my parents and David made SO MANY things clear to me and i never felt that relief before. It felt like potion of peacefulness dropped over my head without him even directly talking to me. I might even consider seeking therapy. I am very successful academically, and i have similar world views with tate but this video was a different world to me
This book helped me understand the importance of a growth mindset, showing that small, consistent actions can lead to significant mental health improvements and wealth.
I really didn't expect to sit down and watch the whole interview in one sitting, but I just couldn't stop. I learned some new things about myself, reaffirmed some other things I believed before, and disagreed with other things. Absolutely fascinating interview, and a fantastic job. I truly hope we get more of this.
Who is gonna believe in someone as delusional as he is, this guy says he shapes his reality at his will 😂 so when he says, no I didn't do it, does it have any worth? 😂
@@pabloduque579 perhaps he is delusional, but look at his achievement, he is successful because of how he shaped his reality. so does it have any worth? I'd say yes.
@@willyemful well, there is many many successful people who are horrible human beings, I'm not saying he is, because no evidence, but being financially successful does not mean he then must be a good person. Also, delusion is a mental health condition which has to be treated with psychotherapy and medicine, he has delusions of grandiosity (obviously). He might take advantage of his people person skills to do businesses, and convince people because he is smart, so he makes money out of that, but that does not mean he is trustworthy. People like that can lie to you in your face, without hesitation and with a straight face, just because of their convenience, with zero accountability for how that could affect other ones. So, can you trust him? hmm I personally wouldnt.
@@pabloduque579 Everybody shapes their reality through the concepts they know themselves (and their 'worlds') of. He is right, if you don't have a 'depression' as a concept, you can't 'catch' depression. Not saying I agree with everything Tate says, or even if I like the guy (we're all just consciousness behind the masks); but he's correct. All is Mind.
It's hard to find when there are so many long form videos of him describing, in detail, how he trafficked women and scammed men.... God bless this sacred space where we can see the Andrew Tate we want to see.
@@vanessadisco6643yeah but let this be a female who abuse women , you will sing another tune, but look at you giving excuses cause it a man claiming Alpha
@wallisvictor9688 so your issue isn't that he is a self admitted sex trafficker who scammed men and women... it's that you think people wouldn't care as much if it was a woman... I guess we'll have to wait and see if a woman ever heads up a sex trafficking organization. Until then.. crime is a crime, and both men and women go to jail for their crimes.
I can say that this therapist was one of the people that has stumped andrew at times and made him think more than other guests. Andrew is a very straightforward guy he knows what hes gonna say and he seems like he already premeditates answers to questions people might ask him and this guy broke the glass of that..which is a very good thing for growth. That is what makes this podcast very good
He did prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that the man is completely delusional and irrational at times. And while that can be a strength it makes him susceptible to his own insane ego
honestly it feels like he was just blowing smoke up the therapists ass to be quite honest, there were times where i KNOW Andrew was covering up and masking ANY INKLING of "weakness" or "vulnerablity" and he just gave a fluff fake "doodbro bravado" answer and im 90% sure the therapist could see right thru him and his fake bs answers because he knows he's putting up a front for the camera so the world doesnt see ANY weakness in him, which is understandable BUT it also puts up a shield between him and his supporters, fans, followers, AND the BIG chunk of the fence huggers that are curious about who he is REALLY as a man and then they get these bullshit "im superman!!" answers when a therapist is asking him to be Andrew not THE COBRA...
Incredibly good podcast, it's genuinely rare we see interviewers try to humanise Andrew or anyone else in this circle without having some deeper agenda. I truly enjoyed seeing you pick his brain and make him think a little harder. Tate is human at the end of the day, and the listening skills you showed in your responses helped bring that humanity to life. I haven't seen part one yet, but I'll definitely do it now. God bless you
The best part of the whole interview is "the quite" last part where you "David" said stop thinking, everyone always thinks of a reply and never let there thoughts manifest the present moment. Valuable interview! I would love to have you on my podcast
I love when Andrew turns his head to the left, smile and touche his beard. Every times the therapist got him with emotions his body language change even tho he doesn’t want to show that emotional weakness.
Yet men are constantly told that expression, which is a form of processing, is vile when it comes from them, so they should abstain from it. But open up. But not show anger. But let it all go. But show restraint. By those very "therapists".
curious but, how is that meassured. if you are functional and doing good in your life. Is it healthy, to feel bad about your emotions if you are happy with yourself and by world standard "successfull".
Never seen somebody pick andrew’s brain with this level of respect with a good genuine conversation going back-and-forth props to your podcast. I’ll be watching more no disrespect just a conversation what I like to see.
A child who grew listening and believing that his feelings didn’t matter, and he should never show them for any reason, grew into a very anxious man and fearful of everything, even to be loved and seen. Being needed by others keeps him enough busy from looking to himself and to his needs and feelings. He doesn’t believe in depression, but yet he’s one of the most depressed people I’ve ever seen.
I agree with everyone except the last part. I don’t think he’s depressed but I think he will explode eventually from suppressing his emotions. Right now it’s happening through nightmares. Eventually it will be anxiety or panic attacks. And he thinks he will be able to control those too until he won’t be able too. He will break eventually.
This was one of the best podcast interviews I've ever watched. Excellent questions were being asked by David and we saw a side of Andrew we never saw before. It really kept me engaged the whole way.
This was Andrew's BEST podcast conversation yet. It was so nice to see this side of him...I could see he was resisting slightly and it made me laugh to watch him in a more vulnerable space! Great podcast guys, well done
19:14 "I think the only thing better than having everything you want is not wanting anything." Andrew hits hard. Not just physically, but philosophically too.
@@Samuel_Trader_Journy I agree with you on knowing them, however he does have clear openings that you can exploit, although I'd feel like a scumbag to do so, and I wouldn't be any better than him at that point. However, if you build enough support behind you, you could likely play it off with choosing a side since there's a lot of people who hate Andrew due to his view on the world being unrelatable. So, he's chosen his weaknesses is a more aptly worded way to say it in my belief. He also has a way to control the variables around his weaknesses that he finds easy to deal with and puts his most valuable beliefs and things he values in a very safe and defended position. Since his need for control and need for security is as high as it is, the best way to deal with him is to ignore him and provide a better alternative to the people that would likely follow him.
@@jgoogle4256 simply, lying and pretending to agree with him. 2nd, his wife and kids. 3rd taking his audience and giving them better options. 4th, manipulation on a large scale, not on how he thinks, effectively twisting his message. 5th, showing people what following Andrew gets you, it's really nothing special you're just following a rich guy who's taking your money, and isn't going to do anything for you, your just feeding his wallet.
If you guys notice at the end. He actually got him. He got him to open up. And as soon as he felt vulnerability, he wanted to stop, hence he went for the handshake. Even that small interaction at the end was all worth it in my opinion. He really felt himself in the end and saw fear and sadness, vulnerability and everything he went through. I believe that if they went on with the conversation 5 more mins he would break or something.
The handshake at the end was outstanding. The tension from Andrew and the acknowledgment of breakthrough from David was unmistakable. The entire conversation was perfectly wrapped up in that moment. I saw Andrew's vulnerability and it was very inspiring. Well done to both of you!
@-TimeToChange Exactly. Idk what these people are thinking about his vulnerability or sadness or whatever. Dude literally admitted that he wants to be as vulnerable as possible. Yet there was nothing so sad and bad in his vulnerability. The end was a fucking psychic bullshit that felt kinda gay, which andrew seemed to be uncomfortable. "Feel another man" what the heck are you on about.
@-TimeToChangeman we are all humans and therefore we also live on other levels than the rational world. There is not introvert and there is no extrovert, or at least in this case, we all work the same way.
😂 The ending was epic. Andrew just chose to put an end to the interaction as he believed it had just lost any purpose by not being able to analyze and talk anymore. So I felt he thought in a way "Great chat but now you're only wasting my time by asking me to feel your presence. Let's end this bullshit cause I've better things to do" 😂
Avoided this one for so long for some reason. Turns out to be the best interview he's ever done. Massive props to both. That's how you have a conversation.
This interview was amazing. This is the first time I've ever fully watched Andrew Tate. The final few minutes when David does that exercise to force Andrew to stay present with him when he starts to think...Andrew's leg starts tapping because he's uncomfortable and just not used to not thinking. Captivating stuff. And I have to admit...Andrew Tate isn't who I thought he was. I relate a lot to his rational mind as I do the same thing. This is good shit here, David. Truly fascinating.
well yeah, we're humans, we don't think we die instantly. You stop thinking on a street you get hit, you stop thinking during sex you knock some chick up. Staying present means thinking about EVERY tiny thing happening at all times all the time, present means 1000% on and on edge constantly. Not being present is when you relax. At least with me. If I'm present other people don't exist to me, they're just obstacles. It's when I'm not present and I can think I can think about other people.
@@RobertMorganI think I disagree with that take. To be present would mean to fully be in the moment and not judging the information or stimulus coming into the mind. This is the core principle behind meditation and most eastern spiritual philosophies. When you are on and on edge, you are judging all input and what it means to your existence and survival.
it's not a nervous thing. Huberman goes over this in depth. It's a trick we (adhd people) learn from an early age that helps us focus. Some people move their tongues. Some bounce their legs. It's the opposite of nervousness, it's increased focus.
@@iwsajet8506I think you misinterpreted what he said. To sum up what he said, to be present isn’t necessarily paranoia but understand that LIFE happens. Situations out of our control can happen and simply acknowledging that.
That was quite an adventure. You could really see that Andrew was enjoying the questioning, as he is a man who enjoys challenges. By the end, David left him in a space that seemed to feel unfamiliar for Tate. His willingness to participate in the questioning ceased when Sutcliffe redirected his rationalizing to being into a state of presence with him. With the reaching out of Andrew's hand it felt as if he had recognized that David had taught him something as perhaps a more "veteran" opponent would in a ring. The "Round 3" request feels almost poetic given the context of Tate's professional career and relentlessness. I'm really looking forward to the next one!
he's seeking attention from the audience, massive red flag, but then again I've been brain raped by a therapist who read his notes about me to a third party against my will so my trust is at zero, especially since I was in therapy for massive adoption-related trust issues.
The therapist is brilliant, he knows what he is doing, everything is well set: the little gestures, the voice, the words, it's incredible. He does alot without Andrew noticing it right away. That was not an interview or something, that was a real therapy session. I'm not sure A. Tate understood that.
He is reacting like an edgy college boy ( the age in which he is stuck for eternity, ever since he was joining big brother to become known, celebrity and thrive for attention). The therapist is enjoying how many blind spots this dude has, the primary of which he considers himself "succesful" when his peaks of human contribution is playing in big brother, getting some "world champ kick box titles" in one of 320 different kick -box league ( which are all useless if the name of the league is not K1 or glory), and creating an online pimp web camera..... Dude you did not invent anything, you did not create a groundbreaking company, you left for one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in europe, you did not even learn the language ( hyperintelligence), you pimped masses of poor eastern european girls to become rich and now after investing this wealth you act like Soros.
I was depressed and diagnosed with major depressive disorder and prescribed medication. I didn't like the way the meds made me feel because i was still depressed; the meds just masked it. Found a new therapist who gave me a different perspective. I stopped taking the meds and identified the root of my depression and set a goal. Im no longer depressed and my therapist recognizes that. He tells me he can see by the way i talk now, my tone, the progress ive made toward my goal. Still on track to meeting my goal. I have even caught myself in moments of true joy. I have the tools to get myself out of low points. Extremely grateful for my therapist helping me get to where i am by giving me the tiols and different perspectives.
@@kristyhawes yup and took different ones as I had negative side effects. Tried for over a year, not worth the money, imo. This is all personal experience. They "worked" in helping me live with it but didn't resolve it.
Keep observing the world That which remains true despite being hit hard You will see that your depression was just a mechanism to let you know that your mindset wasn't in alignment with reality Depression is just a notification
@@autisticsuicidal I like what you said, "depression is just a notification." I feel that when Im in a low point. Like oops ok what happened, let's change it, then I'm back to being the person I like.
Joy comes from this video because not often do we see two ppl communicating like this. This is beautiful they are literally smiling at each other even though they don’t have the same perspectives.
Hahah yes this is the defibition of commubicating, listening and connecting lol. He doesnt even have a proper onologue to stixk to, he contradicts himself constantly, often several times in the same interview...if he didnt benefit from being an idiot I woud feel bad for him....smh
i used to share his exact mindset without the narcissism. but after finally altering my mindset i noticed narcissistic qualities begin to develop. they cloud your judgement and ultimately make you weaker because it shuts you off from helpful perspectives that could cover blindspots in the problem and help sharpen overall approach.
@@devitus781 All I’m saying is, the man is clearly putting Tate down and uplifting himself with his comparisons. Not only that he’s clearly looking for attention. If me calling him a narcissist hurt your feelings that much, get off the internet and do some soul searching. There’s no reason to get upset.
Incredible conversation and interaction, love that you're able to ask questions that go into unchartered territory. My favourite moment, in this interview and the first one, is when you raise your voice and take over the conversation, it produces a visceral reaction that I think Andrew rarely ever feels, of someone of equal wit and conversational ability and authority in the moment, and it produces a fantastic reflective moment as a result. Kudos to you!
exactly. He sucked him off more or less., ONE KEY thing to ask him was why he thinks life is a chess game. This zero sum i must win and you must lose thinking paradigm is instilled from his dad obviously. do we need more of these kind of cockroaches?
@@onetwo3411 then you’re weren’t paying close enough attention. I understand how it was confusing though bc his challenges were extremely subtle and always sandwiched between compliments. When you’re dealing with a narcissist the only way you can ever get them to open up is a sort of Trojan horse - you have to hide your challenges among praise.
The last 3 or so minutes were the most important. That's when he truly let his guard down just for a small bit. The whole 2 hours he has been going on and on. It's so incredibly hard for him to let this defense down, props on both of you on letting the light shine through, even just for a tiny moment.
This was great for me to see myself in, in an extreme way, how I rationalise and think to avoid the feeling of being present. My partner and I have to pencil in this time to our day to drop into this space - what Martin Buber calls an I-thou relationship. I think when two men can hold that awareness, as Tate does for a brief second or two, and I feel all the feelings myself watching, they enter the timelessness of relationship, it’s actually the highest form of love as it transcends any label. It can be terrifying for a man to approach with another man, because of all the pain and grief, and fear about what receiving love from another means. That therapist was brave to take him there and I respect both men for going there so publicly. Here’s to men doing ‘the work!’
I loved how different his energy became at the last part of the therapy, they were just present with each other, in the moment, wholesome to see a softer side of him which is incredibly hard to bring out.
"I refuse to be a broken man. It's disrespectful, to anybody who ever died or tried hard for me to be raised, for me to emerge from this difficulty as a broken person." Tate has words to live by whether you like or not.
@@Firas-460 we had a glimpse of the real Andrew right at the end before he shut it down. You see the facial and physical expression of the vulnerable lad. It likely felt both hypnotically terrifying and comforting for him in that moment. I do hope they both continue to meet. As much as I’d love to see it on camera, I respect Andrew if he wants to do this work in privacy. As an analyst this interview left me buzzing. It will be discussed by many in the field for sure.
@@Firas-460everybody has coping mechanisms in real life. Its literally part of life. IDC how much money you have or what you believe in. Everybody copes. You could simply cope from losing a loved one.
As a fellow therapist I loved this! I learnt a lot about myself as I am very left brain dominant like Andrew. It was interesting to watch Andrew move into a les cognitive state, his voice even changed. I also know that being busy is a trauma response, constantly doing represses our emotions so it makes sense he “never feels sad”.
Maybe you should be a tad bit less empathetic towards this guy as long you’re not giving him therapy. Considering how many he’s influenced to need some.
@@JustChill-zd4ib You have like 0 idea about the topic and it shows, so please be quiet. Working out is not a problem solver for everything, sure it helps but it won´t cure your depression
It was great how the therapist held him and guided the conversation so that it didn't get out of hand. I've never seen so much armor around a person. Good conversation.
Then you've never met anyone who truly suffered. Such a thick armor is a self-defense mechanism against intense pain, more likely than not establish in childhood as the child doesn't know another way to protect themselves. Talking from experience. I can resonate with Tate, lucky for him his way of coping and his intellect made him successful, but I bet he has a lot of pain buried deep within, that he might never resolve.
Man, I think obi wan kenobi was great at listening Andrew without trying to argue even he know's about the harsh ideas that keep him protected from facing deep emotions from childhood. He is wise enough to understand how the conversation is being controlled but capable of generating reflection without engaging in a fight.
"That's true... BUT i also feel like..." it's his thing. Deflecting and trying very hard to always be right by the end of his monologues. In the peak of rationality. Seeing David work around him was amazing. The way David can give a compliment right before dropping "potential for self delusion" is a beautiful way to work with personalities like Tate. The last minutes were so interesting. There's your vulnerability. David is so so good.
I learned early in life that if you are gonna critique someone or point out potential flaws, the best way is always to start with a genuine compliment and then framing your point as a question to them. Atleast if you wanna move them in any other direction than they are going.... I used that technique alot in my past and during a year I actually managed to make my racist coworker change his attitude and start seeing ppl as individuals rather than judging everyone based on the most extreme example he could make up... or rather; he changed his own attitude... A couple years later he actually thanked me for making him think and being able to let go of alot of anger he carried since being in the afghan war... -Imagine If David ends up changing Tate as a man and makes him realize he doesn't have to be a conartist and predator or even be the best, to succeed in life... That would be fuggin crazy! :D What that techniques specifically does: The compliment makes them lower their guards and the question makes them think about IF your point could be true instead of the opposite; An insult would raise their guards and instead of asking a postulate would make them go straight to a counterattack. A. "I really like the way you are able to articulate your reflections clearly, but could reflection be a defense mechanism?" B. "well... thats a good point, maybe you are right to some extend..." as oppposed to A. "You are really delusional and yoour reflections is a cover for your obvious insecurities and fear." B. "I don't have any fears because I always win and you will never change that!"
I don't think David is working around him. The main agenda behind this conversation is to analyze Tate, therefore, as a response Tate has to explain his point of view. As he said he psycho analyzes himself. He has to have answers to most of his actions. In that case, he always has to include "buts" to ensure he gets the truth across as much as he can. I think everyone who psycho-analyzes themselves will answer just the same.
Fascinating how Tate's entire body language changes in the last two minutes, no wonder he was so quick to shake hands and end the discussion. Brilliant conversation!
That's why he reached out his hands to end the conversation as well. He was looking side to side and thinking about what to say to keep the upperhand. Brilliant work by the therapist to expose how uneasy Andrew gets if he can't somehow one-up his opponent.
well in the last two minutes hes literally in a position that I think a good majority might find themselves uncomfortable with. Im not taking sides but the fact that we have casual viewers try to psychoanalyze his body language is wild to me. I might be in the most comfortable position on the couch with my buddies and shake my leg everyonce in a while where I find myself in the present and have to fiddle with something to distract myself. A lot of these actions can be seen literally everywhere, you don't have to be exposed, vulnerable for these actions to show. Honestly I think a wide study would bring intriguing results especially with therapist involvement but overall when you find you have nothing to do, other than during meditating times/mindfulness sessions you would find yourself fiddling or trying to fill that empty space.
@@milkxv it has thankfully nothing to do with psychoanalysis to recognize or talk about body language. Could be anything, but sometimes it is quite obvious it isn't. Usually when a group of people recognize the body expressing some internal emotions, they will come up with a plethora of details they thought was the trigger. But usually that is just rationalizing an empathic response. I think we all know, body language can be deceiving, but it sometimes is revealing, just as being over protective, is, as someone who does not take sides. Smirk.
This was far more interesting than I initially expected! the therapist is VERY good at his job. 3/4th's of an hour in, and he´s finally got andrew to realise and admit he has been actively attempting to control the conversation. most ''interviewers'' are leagues away from an actual, open and honest talk with Tate, yet this guy is breezing through it. great content!
Imagine putting so much effort into staying out of touch with your true self and building defence walls around you. This reminded me of my years of drug addiction... I've got nothing against this guy. He's free to cope with his traumas the way he chooses to, but the fact that he is a role model is rather disturbing.
The last few minutes are so interesting. Asking Andrew to soften, be present, not think or feel it necessary to talk, was very fascinating to witness. I noticed he decided to end the meeting there. Maybe that was too much for now. When we have deep fears of intimacy and vulnerability, it can be very hard to stay truly present with the person encouraging you to feel that. I hope Andrew continues speaking with you, David. If this at all encouraged Andrew's self-reflection, or helped him to notice how useful therapy may be (and he actually goes), that'd be phenomenal.
I watched the whole thing. Incredible work. You got him to see how his definition of “love” did not include the actual emotion of it. I can totally see how he would get to that conclusion given the kind of childhood he had and his relationship with his father. Language can be very limited. Two people can utter the same word, but have different definitions of it. This level of thoroughness is necessary to catch the discrepancies in communication. As Andrew said, his presence kicked on when he needed to survive. His only reference to presence was in moments of fear/anger/anxiety. Therefore his association with presence, which is the state one would need to get in to feel love, is now connected to moments of survival rather than intimacy or vulnerability.
Great comment. There's a clip i watched of Tate where he says he only feels alive when there is danger present. That would be consistent with your insightful analysis.
I was a good friends with a man, he mentored me for a few years, who was basically a sociopath and a bit of a hustler. He had the same trait - when we talked about love, he defined it as "accepting someone". I couldn't get him to budge when I talked about it also involving emotional attachment - for instance, you accept a chair, that's not the same as loving it. The idea seemed foreign to him - like it didn't compute. The man had his good qualities, but he was also like a reptile. And unfortunately I started to realize how much he used and sometimes abused the people around him for his own benefit. It was a lot like the story of the frog and the scorpion - no matter how good what the man said sounded, it was in his nature to sting. He himself would probably have agreed. I believe Andrew is the same. Similar kind of character. Question then is - why do so many want to be the frog in that equation.
Do you know about his childhood ? I’ve always wondered what kind of childhood he had and he never really seems to want to open up about it. I suspect he might have grown up with a narcissist parent.
@@annamayssa8614I suspect the same. The stories he's told about his father paint a picture of a man who was often absent, harsh and demanding. He told one story about seeing his father in a fist fight at a store. Most fathers are not going to be getting into a physical fight when their small son is there, unless it's to defend him (which it wasn't).
Tate's logical value system is merely utilitarian and about "winning", it doesn't matter about facing his own demons or facing the truth. "As long as I win who cares about the truth. The only truth that matters is that I won." Circular reasoning. It's a very shallow value system and an avoidance strategy based on an external locus of control.
@@maddirectortv6421 He talks too much to avoid being asked about all the scams he was talking about willingly in 2020 and 2021 about stealing money with his chicks from incels. Love them or hate them, that's illegal. He needs to grow a spine, do the time, and act on the $hit he preaches about. Until then, he's not different than the manb!tch he cries about.
@58:57 as a Licensed Therapist, this part of the interview was excellent therapeutic work and honestly made me endeared to Tate in a way I never thought possible😊“The sword is right there, you just don’t have to use it all the time.”👏♥️ Powerful.
1:40:28 😂😂 therapist - " stop thinking" Andrew -" i cant stop thinking " Therapist-"you can stop thinking, if you cant stop thinking, you dont have control over your mind Andrew - alright i cant have that💭 - " alright cool I've stop thinking but"...😂
Pain is a negative label for discomfort in our body which is temporary.. I do not use the word pain in my vocabulary. If I feel discomfort, I remind myself it is temporary and analyse why it's presenting and work with that. I admire the constant positive mindset of the highly inspirational Andrew.
@@Holyinductorits a natural thing to have an ego, its literally something necessary for survival. Why tf do you keep trying to humiliate and annihilate everyone‘s pride? Are you psychopaths?
God literally brings tests TO confront our ego. Many people see this as growing through pain, but its not true. God doesn't bring us pain, he just brings us stuff to confront our ego. We always grow when we drop a bit more ego and release a little more stored pain.
@@Holyinductor Absolutely incorrect imo, I believe a true therapist as seen in the video can deliver thought provoking questions without the need to peneitrate someone's ego. An ego is absolutely important, let's say the therapist here started degrading tate now what would that do? Probably make tate defensive less open and overall wouldn't be beneficial. Don't make wild claims without supporting your opinion, anyway I'd say the certified psycho therapist is more qualified to ask questions as opposed to you lol.
Within the past two years I have legitimately listened to 100 plus hours of Andrew Tate speak through podcasts, vlogs etc. This was the first time I have ever wanted Andrew to talk less and listen more, specifically towards the end of the video when they started discussing Andrew's childhood, father, and the concept of being present. David analyzed and dissected him like I have never seen anyone do before, this was beyond amazing to watch and listen. Truly great work from both parties here, thank you so much for sharing this! I hope the two of you remain in contact and decide to make more content later on down the road. Also thank you David for a new mantra! Yes, thank you.
Same here bro. He's the best person Andrew has ever talked to. Him and Tom Segura lol. The first one he did with David was incredibly insightful and introspective. The one with Tom Segura was ridiculously hilarious. This podcast was as good as I thought it was going to be. Truly wise people are rare in this world and David is clearly one of them
I’ve literally heard 3 to 5 hours almost a day for the last year of hundreds of Andrews interviews and podcasts. You should look up his stuff before he got famous. Those are the true gems 💎
I agree. I think though Andrew is very careful with his word’s especially on camera. I think he’ll go away and internalise this conversation and then we’ll see it’s true impact. I hope he even continued the conversation with David off screen
Don't forget about Tom's wife, Christina. She played amazingly into the his persona and the jokes. Probably the funniest female podcaster/standup on UA-cam right now.
David summarized 1 pattern occuring over and over again in the interview at the end. there are moments where andrew is really talking genuinely, with thoughts emerging from the presence, but then he starts talking about his pre-conceived ideas and goes on a rant about a topic he knows very well, fore-going the present moment. this happens again and again, and the few brief moments where andrew's voice slows down, and we can tell he is thinking and answering with new thought, those were the only moments i genuinely enjoyed watching.
I clicked on this video not thinking I would watch more than 5 minutes... 2h later - this is fascinating. Brilliant watch and interview David - From 2:00:00 on, I completely agree, and feel that Andrew covered this exceptionally well. Confusing love with tolerance - 11/10.
This saved my life and the lives of the people who are in my life. Past 2 weeks i was distracted and that made me feel depressed. I could not find a reason to stay alive anymore. This interview reminded me that i don't have time to be depressed or suicidal. Because it is not about me. It is about the people who rely on me. I need to make sure that they are taken care of. I learned so much from this! Thank you so much for this and fixing my brain. Wrote every point down, wil read it to remind myself of it every night.
When you feel negative, tell yourself that you just feel sad, feel in a bad mood, feel alone, feel hopeless or feel stuck, but don’t call it depression. When you call it by it’s real name - those words I described above, you get to understand that those are just emotions, feelings and not a permanent state of mind. Then write down 20 amazing beautiful magical things which can lift your mood up! Then do them one by one you will see that there are so many amazing things left in this world which you yet need to experience and feel! Omg!
I think he has accepted the fact that you can be vulnerable, he's just put himself in a position where he's not. And I guess he's terrified of losing that position.
Ngl this guy David is an absolute master. Waiting for the perfect times to ask questions he already knows the answer to. But showing patience in a way that Andrew could also see he’s not trying to catch him or paint him in a bad light. Slowly disarming his defenses was top notch work and respect. Andrew has amazing potential and could use a little healthy friendly direction. Let him be him but just question him to think about what his subconscious mind does. I’ve paid more and more attention to myself in similar way over the years and the growth that comes as a reaction to that is incredible. Not to mention a correct view of one’s self is the necessity in relationship to God and others. All in all David you’re doing awesome and so far great interview
I really appreciated this, especially the end - you got him to be in the moment for a moment and it was really wholesome to watch. i loved the smiles right at the end. Hope to see more Wholesome moments like that. Thanks for this.
Watching the debate between people with sometimes opposite world views, it's refreshing to see them stay calm and open. They're just two professionals having a real conversation.
I agree with this man, especially when it comes to refusing to be a victim, and grateful to our parents instead of looking for what was missing.. from experience those choices make u keep going if not you will never be able to go forward ( trust me have been there) ❤
@@garydomaz1849 I disagree, error is okay but being a victim wont get you were you want to be. Sure he might sound narcisisstic but theres a little narcissim thats required to achieve what you to. I hope you can see the good in his points. i wish you the best in life
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
Loved this. I’m in a point in my life that I can’t really afford therapy, but listening to a conversation like this has helped me learn a little bit about myself; even if the topic is completely unrelated to me, I can still take what’s said and apply it to my own perspective. I related a lot with the both of you, and the part at the end is something that I don’t think Andrew quite grasped, but something that I appreciated, especially after losing my dad.
Tate is a courageous person. He's the perfect warrior. He's the guy you'd want on the battle field with you. However, the criticism that he's insensitive is evident not just in problem solving, but in understanding others and their weaknesses. He has trouble with forgiveness and compassion. He is fighting everyone to win. If you come to him with a weakness, he wouldn't value your worth beyond what advantageous he can exploit from you. The worth of an individual is measured by his courage and strength. I think he has a lot to offer people today because he absolutely obliterates the victim mentality. He embraces loyalty and fulfilling promises. But he fails to recognise the value of the virtue and strength of forgiveness.
1:10 what's useful is more important than what's true I don't believe in anything that takes power from me 3:00 analyse why you hold the believes you do, where it came from, who tried to teach you that, what were their intentions for you 4:30 his perspective on depression 6:00 dealing with uncertainty in jail 8:30 using anger as a positive tool 11:00 accountability 12:15 unresolved fear 15:00 fixing your own mind 15:45 which mindset do I need, anything deviating me from that needs to be addressed 17:10 fear shouldn't guide your actions. Use negative emotions to your benefit. The flavour of life is pain. Eat all of it. Enjoy bad things 21:15 use delusion to your advantage if it gives you the best chance of winning 22:53 don't be a coward. Don't be afraid of emotions, anxiety, depression or any negative feeling 23:55 what tate fears 24:06 your emotions shouldn't affect your productivity 24:20 how he is making sense of what happened to him 100% accountability 27:00 making a courageous choice in the face of fear and emerging stronger 37:00 not caring about people negative slander or perception of him. Doesn't bother him cause it's not true 39:30 is it painful when people misrepresent what you say, project things on you or judge you incorrectly. It doesn't bother him because those people are already paying the price for their ignorance 40:15 your either at war with your brain or at war with them If you're not what they are saying, don't let it bother you. They are fat trolls and losers and you should beat them in every human metric possible 41:53 don't feel pain when people say false and hurtful things about you, because anybody who will believe that has and will continue to pay the price because of their world view, lack of critical thinking, love of negativity I, habit of gossiping and speaking of things they do not know about in detail 43:40 weaponised virtue and resentment 44:00 they can't call me stupid, unsuccessful, fat, ugly, not charming or not charismatic so they weapon a virtue 47:45 emotional vulnerability. Tate and why that didn't get sympathy from him 49:59 don't fail in any scenario 50:55 how he handled jail. What choice do I have 1:02:00 what he thinks his responsibility is to god, his family and himself 1:02:39 what he wakes up thinking everyday 1:03:38 how he handled jail 1:04:45 with the capability to become anything you want and all the unlimited options and a greatly capable body and mind given by God, how do you find time to be sad 1:05:10 as a man anything that is inside your mind that doesn't allow you to be competitive should be erased 1:10:50 the power source felt through your last name, your ancestors generations, the bloodline 1:17:30 emotional energy and buckets - feel the energy and decide which emotion to put it in 1:20:30 death and rebirth-does god want to break him so he comes back stronger with a wealth of knowledge 1:26:45 you have to perform. Don't let things steal your focus, even if you have to rationalise, say it any way convincing to yourself to install it in your brain that allows you to compete 1:28:48 yes, thank you, what ever comes (acceptance & gratitude) 1:30:00 the moral arch of the universe bends towards truth and justice in the end 1:30:40 coward point,my only fear is me knowing I am a coward, really liked the point, (and even just the idea of me being the coward would burn the world down) The sheer thought of weakness enrages me I am not that weak guy 1:33:48 how he would approach going back to jail mentally 1:35:10 what he leamt about himself in jail 1:37:20 nightmares after jail and dealing with it He already analysed worst case scenario and followed the plan 1:38:10 putting so much importance on how you feel as a man, makes you less competitive 1:38:20 presence segment 1:42:20 what he values over presence 1:44:20 his father not being around as a kid not bothering him
Honestly, this was great and I found myself finally seeing why Andrew does and says the things he does. I actually enjoyed hearing him speak. lol great video!
Loved this. An actual conversation with the man, where a safe space was created.....instead of friction. As someone who's never really had the outlet for these types of conversations, nor was privy to men who talked/thought like this (too often) growing up, this has been extremely insightful; and would love to see another episode.
The thing I've noticed the most is how happy and relieved tate seemed speaking to someone who is aiming to understand who he is from a deeper perspective, rather than interviewers asking questions that are designed to provoke and put him into defense mode. It's funny how different his persona is when speaking to this guy. I just think tate keeps himself busy to avoid his real fears, feelings and problems. He's hit the nail on the head.
The idea that David brought up on being present really stood out to me, as it is a sentiment of tremendous truth and simplicity, yet tremendously difficult for the mind to metabolize. That's why when we look at philosophers of the past such as Marcus Aurelius, who so blatantly said that we can't be absolutely sure that something will happen in the future. Thus, you can't keep allowing your mind to be a slave, to kick against fate and the present, and to mistrust the future. “When you realize you are mortal you also realize the tremendousness of the future. You fall in love with a Time you will never perceive”-Etel Adand
They need to make a series out of this. Seriously. This is so good on so many levels for so many men (women too but more for men) they need to consider doing this regularly.
I love how it was not just two men debating but actual conversation. It felt as though you could relate not only to their words but also their emotions.
@David: You did a great job reflecting his perspective throughout, while asking thoughtful questions that allowed him to be vulnerable. Speaking of depth and connection in human relationships - he will certainly deliver results, and you possess a depth that Andrew seems to lack - though this is merely an observation from afar. Perhaps this longing for depth is woven into the very fabric of human consciousness - some have learned to navigate these waters with grace, while others remain trapped in an endless struggle, unable to surrender their need for control.
Andrew is very intellectual and is very much committed to his “mental model”. I wonder if that is puts him in his own matrix. A matrix that won’t allow feelings to have any space, only definitions. I hope they have another chat. This sounded like a first therapy chat where he came in trying to be the therapist - which might be counter productive in a lot of ways. Thanks Andrew and the therapist for a very insightful interaction.
This was the most interesting interview I've ever listened to. This really made Andrew seem so much more human than what people make him out to be. David is also SUCH a good interviewer. Loved every minute of it. Edit: y’all make it seem like I’m agreeing with Andrew. I’m not. It was just an interesting interview. My personality more like the interviewer, and the way he asks questions is so good. So. Go into my comment knowing that I’m by no means an Andrew Tate fan.
very true. im a young man not to the degree of wealth as tate but alot of Quality i can share with tate and its hard when youve become the hero or the protector and you been looked at as a evil person when you’re trying to do good
@@wayne3093not only women. Him and Tristan also manipulated men. He’s an opportunist and a very high performing narcissistic, one that has the ability to charm people
Then you really buy some bullshit lies , bro here bragged about taking millions from people then said he didn't exploit them because someone else would do it....common bro
Damn this podcast is so good - like we see Tate actually speaking truthfully this is how he really feels - not just a facade like people think - I actually relate to how he feels being going through a lot and I feel depressed but I would deny it and this helps me push on
I would advice on being careful with what denying it means. Depression is a feeling but it's important to understand "why" we are having that feeling and work through it and understand it. In order to Get through life we shouldn't deny ourselves the feelings or ignore. We should come to peace with it and find a solution. Thats not saying Depression defeats you or you are going to sit in depression. It means you are giving yourself self growth to recognize why you feel, how not to, how to avoid getting there again. I have weeks where i just don't understand why mentally I am in a rut and i just ignore and push through but I find it better when I sit and really look at myself and my situations and people around me and do some self searching to Why and how to not feel this way. It goes a long ways and I get less in a rut each time because I'm learning to handle these emotions, situations and facing them head on. It's not pushing feelings aside or way down.
For anyone who does not understand, Tate suggests that experiencing "depressive feelings" is different from "depression." He believes that while one might encounter depressive feelings, succumbing to depression implies a passive acceptance of these feelings. This perspective emphasizes that individuals can choose to confront and challenge depressive feelings instead of feeling powerless to them.
You don’t choose to succumb to depression. I have diagnosed PTSD and MDD. I do agree that I would have no motivation to be where I’m at if I didn’t have these mental struggles. Because of my mental Illness I’m 23, have a house, became a single mom for a year due to both of us not working on our mental health, have my degree, in school for nursing and working as an office manager as a medical assistant, own my car, no debt, 750 credit, 13k I’m savings, now recently married to my sons dad and I did all of what I mentioned in one year on my own. I had sexual abuse as a child..father not in my life and step dad is an alcoholic. Without my struggles I wouldn’t be where I’m at but I ALSO have had to FIGHT burnout when it was all done and my body just gave up. I lost 45 pounds in that year, had a bleeding ulcer, and it resulted in anemia. Depression isn’t only mental it affects the physical well being over time. I think I’m successful for my age now but with all the money my husband and I made…it would’ve meant nothing If I didn’t have my son and partner in my life. Andrew Tate having multiple kids in broken homes and multiple failed relationships honestly kinda shows the side effect of not healing your mental health. Yes he’s rich, but he still has a void.
TRUE no such thing called as depression or feeling depressed exist in any third world country bc people don't have time to complain or bs about life. These things only happens in developed countries where people worry too much about little things.
@@Goodlife-x9h That isn't remotely close to what was said at all. Depression very much is a real thing, and even Andrew said that he indeed has a very intimate relationship with exactly that, and that is exactly why he's disciplined and convinced himself that it's not real *for him*. He knows how to fight it, he knows how to subdue it and assume control over it and not let it take over, not let it get in the way or manifest itself outside of the containment in his own mind. People do feel depression, and people can absolutely be diagnosed with depression. The brain is a very complex structure and will be shaped and formed by many exterior factors that may be beyond your control. Or, if you're a believer in God, you may simply have been put on a path of endless tormenting trials of the mind. People in third world countries do experience this, you may just not perceive it the same or be subject to it the same. This isn't to say that you should give in to it, but ignoring it is nothing but idiocy. Taking control of it and manipulating it to strengthen yourself is positive, ignoring it and pretending it's not a thing is foolishness. Acknowledge it and reject it. Or just gaslight the ever-living fuck out of yourself I guess, whatever floats your boat.
Shrooms have a tendency to bypass our protector parts and take us straight to our exiles. This guy would have the ego death to end all ego deaths and come out the other side having witnessed his scared little wounded inner child sitting in the abyss waiting for him. Probably do him a world of good.
The ending 2 minutes was utterly fascinating. When David says “just be present… children long for a deeper connection with their father,” Andrew’s instant reaction is to ask, “but what would we talk about?” We see from this that Andrew has never really had a real present moment or deeper connection with his father and it’s resulted in the coping method of rationalizing EVERYTHING, which has worked extremely effectively, but has also produced an almost a constant state of delusion. He’s gotten so good at it from a young age that he’s been able to build such a firm world view.
bro said a whole lotta nothin
@@oatsey1345maybe watch it again when you graduate from the 6th grade and you’ll get more from it than “that’s gay”
clearly you're stuck in that closet @@oatsey1345
@@oatsey1345 that is not gay
@@oatsey1345 “fruity” “”ghey”, must be middle school. Original comment got it right
love that we've finally tricked andrew tate into going to therapy lmfao
Was supposed to be a negative thing from you people but turns him into a good person and more respected now so 1+ Tate 0 Haters lmfaooooo
@@silent1823 lol, how is it bad to wish someone go to therapy? If i want negative things to someone, i really wouldn‘t have in mind, to send my enemy to therapy :-) rofl
😊This is my first time seeing andrew owning up to his vulnerabilities and i l love him more for that. The therapist is good at it. I honestly think he should do same with more therapist, probably a series. It will benefit both Andrew and his listeners.
@@atlantamedia9541bc why does he need therapy?
the tate brother once joke about how they want to meet with a therapist.@@ashashh1260
The therapist dude is so smart he stumped Andrew a few times without Andrew even noticing.Increased my respect for these guys a lot.
exactly
@@julietrabka🤣🤣🤣
@@julietrabkabro Andrew made his money off of women even with their consent that is still profiting of their body and flying them into a country to do that is not only sex trafficking/human trafficking and pornography. Then he made you pay money to learn how to make money.
@@julietrabkaidiot 😂
its funny, he has him under his control
It's so heartwarming to see a person with strong protective mechanisms begin to open up. It's like witnessing the blooming of a beautiful flower with thorns.
What’s most interesting is that the more he shows his vulnerability, the more you see the real human beneath, with genuine emotions. This creates a space where you truly start to feel empathy for him. Thank you, Andrew, for allowing us to see this side of your personality.
beautiful sentement mate
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ironically i feel this is the most inspirational Andrew has ever been, when he deeply lays out in detail the mental model in which he uses to see the world. i think andrew should just do podcasts with smart people who keep stretching his thinking and mental models
Agreed! This is also my favourite podcast Andrew has ever done. I had Sneako on my podcast 3 months ago and I’m working towards getting the Tate brothers on next!
@@MrChaosiyou're pathetic
They say this under every video of him.
Ive never seen someone so expertly condition himself not to admit any vulnerability while at the same time not realizing that his constant proclamations of his own greatness and exaggerated self assurance gives off vibes of deep deep insecurity.
@@MrChaosi that and he may talk to people that stretch his mind, but his mind is set - do and say whatever panders to the base fans he parasites off of through his multilevel marketing (ponzi) scheme.
I can’t emphasize this enough, this is a damn MASTERCLASS of listening to someone and drawing things out that they don’t consciously think about. One of the coolest discussions from Tate and the Therapist.
tate? can u give an example?
@@dgbd9030Did you and I watch the same video?
@@barakaobama4017 i didnt watch the vid i went straight comments
im not a tate fanboy nor a hater i just wanted exampels
Listening to Tates responses is also a master class on avoidence 🤦🏻🤣
@topgmedia4702 lol
Bro, it‘s so interesting how the therapist has patience and exactly knows how to talk to a complicated person like Andrew. Really interesting interview
He ain't complicated
Probably complex character is a better description than complicated
@@wds424facts. he’s the most straightforward man on earth with pure logic in every statement
@@Hunterartman13there’s nothing complicated about him. He is a charismatic, confident, intelligent guy who wants to stay relevant through whatever means & become famous. May be it’s all an act, humans do love actors after all 😎& drama off course.
Some of the things he says is delusional surely but aren’t we all ?
At the end of the day he has achieved what he was pursuing.
Depressed insecure man who hates other men bc they’re better than him occurs in the population at a very high rate.
I really like this session. Especially the ending. David started to get Tate to be present and you could see him shaking his leg more vigorously out of minor discomfort. One thing I was surprised with is David not expressing that anger is a secondary emotion from sadness, pain, embarrassment, and hurt. A huge drive for Tate is anger and centering it on something useful. Anger is an emotion, pain is a feeling. So his driving factor is sadness/pain.. very interesting. This was awesome. Kudos to both of them
when he says "these are questions I've never been asked before" is the first time I genuinely felt compassion for this man.
Jesus loves yall, died for us, and rose again! Jesus calls for all of us to repent! He's coming back!
@@highestpeeqs9532 But it still takes magic tricks for you to realize that I've been here for quite a while already.
@@highestpeeqs9532 Ok good
Yep very good. Even better than your mother going to a therapist @@SentinelAerospaceOfficial
@@highestpeeqs9532 how is this relevant?
As a therapist i have to say, David does an incredible job here. You can tell, that he really appreciates the conversation although it is absolutely exhausting for him i believe. He asks incredibly good questions and he finds a way to like Andrew as every good therapist should. Thank you David.
What do you find so exhausting about this though..his mindset is pretty rational and formidable all in all.. I think the people that are his opposition are the exhausting ones
@@TheGuym619 He is so self centered and arrogant and pretentious for one... great manipulater thou
@@TheGuym619 The exhausting aspect is not his rationality, but rather his avoidance when it comes to being approachable and having an exchange on equal terms. Conversations with him always have to follow his rules and he avoids any invitation to get emotionally involved in a topic. That makes it exhausting for a therapist sometimes. I felt this way during these types of conversations, of course I can't speak for David.
It's because Andrew won't change and he is especially aware of this while Andrew is in front of his Audience who have bought into his brand / image. I can assure you David has come across far more complicated "challenges" with clients. This is pretty plain to see that Andrew is just delusional but it serves him superficially. He won that prize. As a therapist you want your client to have a breakthrough therefore you are empathetic and want the best for them (live a mentally healthy life). To the average joe that isn't delusional we just find Andrew repulsive.@@ToniGromann
@bartbenton8269 who cares. Congratulations average Joe. You want a cookie?
"That's a very good question... Questions I've never been asked before." And THAT is why therapy can be a great thing. There are questions you will never ask yourself.
19:48 THE MINDSET
But he did not need to ask himself that question. In no way will that help him. Otherwise he would've asked himself that question.
Your average therapist is gonna prescribe you happy pills the second you say you have any kind of feelings of anxiety or depression. It’s a cope fest designed to mask your feelings rather than resolve them. Therapy is for weak people who can’t handle their feelings.
But his ability to always turn the hard question to benefit him and his world view and answer in a way where he always circle back exactly to assured his point is amazing.
Take shrooms
If Tate is living the archetype of the hero’s journey, David, at least here, is living the archetype of the wise old man. This was a great watch.
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@@Jude1918 Yes.
This therapist is amazingly skillful at what he does. He can see right through Andrew but instead of confronting him and say something like "Here because you think like that you're a delusional narcissist" he just plants a seed of thought with non-threatening words like for example 18:50 "he first makes him a very nice compliment almost to melt and disarm him and then just plants a simple "there's a potential for self delusion". He just knows exactly how to communicate with such characters like Andrew.
didn't even notice it but now that you mentioned it wow
You’re also a little delusional, yourself bro
Yes he may be delusional and narcissistic but I wouldn’t consider those qualities to be negative in him. They actually serve him quite well without those two qualities he wouldn’t be in the position that he’s in.
I do not think Andrew is self delusional. I feel he just put things into perspective even though the other person might disagree.
@@thelonesoldier4518That’s pretty much Philosophy in a nutshell. If you have a different take on something that’s not like the usual then all of sudden “Oh he’s weird, he’s like an alien, he’s a dangerous man.” I don’t watch Andrew Tate at all but even I know that words often get misconstrued.
A great therapist is not one to say the “right things” but one to ask the right questions, to listen, to instigate thoughts in the client organically and to seamlessly lay the armor of the client’s down. Such a fresh breeze of sights with him. Great job!
Thank you!
No clue who you are but just wanted to mention you look incredible.
@@Mickk0205 you aint pulling her bro bro
@@quanofhxd763he's not trying to.
David actually managed to make Andrew like therapy. He said at the end that he wants to talk to you again. Impressive. Great conversation you guys had, it's a breath of fresh air from all the other Tate interviews that sometimes feel more strategic. Well done
so was it a conversation or a theraapy sesion ? andew allways said that you get your therpy fro talknig to people =)) i allways felt the same lel
@@geog26depends on the person. People who actively listen and understand and can provide intellectual feedback can be therapy
@@geog26 I can tell you it was definitely a therapy session. I had the same parenting from my parents and David made SO MANY things clear to me and i never felt that relief before. It felt like potion of peacefulness dropped over my head without him even directly talking to me. I might even consider seeking therapy. I am very successful academically, and i have similar world views with tate but this video was a different world to me
Good therapy IS a conversation..it's just one with someone who understands pain, and knows how to help you grow by not avoiding pain anymore.@@geog26
@@geog26I think it was a therapy session framed as a conversation so that it could make Andrew feel comfortable
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Where I can buy it
@@buruianamarin2641 Try to search on youtube or google.
I really didn't expect to sit down and watch the whole interview in one sitting, but I just couldn't stop. I learned some new things about myself, reaffirmed some other things I believed before, and disagreed with other things. Absolutely fascinating interview, and a fantastic job. I truly hope we get more of this.
i had to take this in doses lol
Definitely, I've never watched an interview before that incited self-reflection within myself.
This is by far the most important interaction Andrew has ever done in the podcast space. They need to do this again!
Who is gonna believe in someone as delusional as he is, this guy says he shapes his reality at his will 😂 so when he says, no I didn't do it, does it have any worth? 😂
@@pabloduque579 perhaps he is delusional, but look at his achievement, he is successful because of how he shaped his reality. so does it have any worth? I'd say yes.
@@willyemful well, there is many many successful people who are horrible human beings, I'm not saying he is, because no evidence, but being financially successful does not mean he then must be a good person. Also, delusion is a mental health condition which has to be treated with psychotherapy and medicine, he has delusions of grandiosity (obviously). He might take advantage of his people person skills to do businesses, and convince people because he is smart, so he makes money out of that, but that does not mean he is trustworthy. People like that can lie to you in your face, without hesitation and with a straight face, just because of their convenience, with zero accountability for how that could affect other ones.
So, can you trust him? hmm I personally wouldnt.
1000% agree
@@pabloduque579 Everybody shapes their reality through the concepts they know themselves (and their 'worlds') of.
He is right, if you don't have a 'depression' as a concept, you can't 'catch' depression.
Not saying I agree with everything Tate says, or even if I like the guy (we're all just consciousness behind the masks); but he's correct.
All is Mind.
The product of asking Andrew insightful, honest, respectful, non-accusatory, genuine, and appropriate questions. fantastic interview.
It's hard to find when there are so many long form videos of him describing, in detail, how he trafficked women and scammed men.... God bless this sacred space where we can see the Andrew Tate we want to see.
@@vanessadisco6643 Sorry for your mental state.
@@MustaliS550 good one
@@vanessadisco6643yeah but let this be a female who abuse women , you will sing another tune, but look at you giving excuses cause it a man claiming Alpha
@wallisvictor9688 so your issue isn't that he is a self admitted sex trafficker who scammed men and women... it's that you think people wouldn't care as much if it was a woman... I guess we'll have to wait and see if a woman ever heads up a sex trafficking organization. Until then.. crime is a crime, and both men and women go to jail for their crimes.
What an exhausting conversation. With that said, David did an incredible job. We all need a therapist like him!
Totally agree with you!
I can say that this therapist was one of the people that has stumped andrew at times and made him think more than other guests. Andrew is a very straightforward guy he knows what hes gonna say and he seems like he already premeditates answers to questions people might ask him and this guy broke the glass of that..which is a very good thing for growth. That is what makes this podcast very good
SO TREUUUU
Definitely!
you took the words out of my mouth
He did prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that the man is completely delusional and irrational at times. And while that can be a strength it makes him susceptible to his own insane ego
honestly it feels like he was just blowing smoke up the therapists ass to be quite honest, there were times where i KNOW Andrew was covering up and masking ANY INKLING of "weakness" or "vulnerablity" and he just gave a fluff fake "doodbro bravado" answer and im 90% sure the therapist could see right thru him and his fake bs answers because he knows he's putting up a front for the camera so the world doesnt see ANY weakness in him, which is understandable BUT it also puts up a shield between him and his supporters, fans, followers, AND the BIG chunk of the fence huggers that are curious about who he is REALLY as a man and then they get these bullshit "im superman!!" answers when a therapist is asking him to be Andrew not THE COBRA...
Incredibly good podcast, it's genuinely rare we see interviewers try to humanise Andrew or anyone else in this circle without having some deeper agenda. I truly enjoyed seeing you pick his brain and make him think a little harder. Tate is human at the end of the day, and the listening skills you showed in your responses helped bring that humanity to life. I haven't seen part one yet, but I'll definitely do it now. God bless you
It was monologue.
Andrew dehumanized himself. Nobody has a hidden agenda against this boy
It's nice to see Andrew with people who can bring full context out of him.
Indeed
very good comment , because all of his points are taken out of context
But let's not forget he's a rapist and sex trafficker
@@slickblowfishtbh he makes a lot of bad points
no not all lol some but his comments are very harmful to a lot of people.@@slickblowfish
The best part of the whole interview is "the quite" last part where you "David" said stop thinking, everyone always thinks of a reply and never let there thoughts manifest the present moment.
Valuable interview!
I would love to have you on my podcast
I love when Andrew turns his head to the left, smile and touche his beard. Every times the therapist got him with emotions his body language change even tho he doesn’t want to show that emotional weakness.
Is it weakness
Yes. Poker players call it a "tell," and use it to destroy you.
"weakness"
@tomhaden2460 Yes because Poker is an accurate reflection of everyday life
@weirdo70615702 it's more accurate than you have ever been
I love the way the therapist expresses the importance of processing emotions.
Yeah he's very good at this
Yet men are constantly told that expression, which is a form of processing, is vile when it comes from them, so they should abstain from it.
But open up.
But not show anger.
But let it all go.
But show restraint.
By those very "therapists".
Where’s the time line on it?
Jesus loves yall, died for us, and rose again! Jesus calls for all of us to repent! He's coming back!
curious but, how is that meassured. if you are functional and doing good in your life. Is it healthy, to feel bad about your emotions if you are happy with yourself and by world standard "successfull".
Never seen somebody pick andrew’s brain with this level of respect with a good genuine conversation going back-and-forth props to your podcast. I’ll be watching more no disrespect just a conversation what I like to see.
That's what therapists do. They will 100% supportively help you and understand you or guide you.
Agreed, it made me understand Andrew as a person a bit more. He's very intelligent just a bit ignorant, he should talk to more people like this.
@@femmebridal6710 Orrrrrrr they try to tell more about yourself that only you could know, but convince you that they can know as well.
A child who grew listening and believing that his feelings didn’t matter, and he should never show them for any reason, grew into a very anxious man and fearful of everything, even to be loved and seen. Being needed by others keeps him enough busy from looking to himself and to his needs and feelings. He doesn’t believe in depression, but yet he’s one of the most depressed people I’ve ever seen.
Your judgement on him says more about you than him.
I agree with everyone except the last part. I don’t think he’s depressed but I think he will explode eventually from suppressing his emotions. Right now it’s happening through nightmares. Eventually it will be anxiety or panic attacks. And he thinks he will be able to control those too until he won’t be able too. He will break eventually.
@@JPax3truth is spoken, we judges or see people as a reflection of ourselves
@@vaghelalokesh6082 exactly
Absolutely 💯 it was such a sad experience witnessing this.
This was one of the best podcast interviews I've ever watched. Excellent questions were being asked by David and we saw a side of Andrew we never saw before. It really kept me engaged the whole way.
I neve thought I would watch a video over two hours besides a movie lol but it was good
You love rapists? thats cool man. Just stay out of my country, and everything will be cool
"The more you seek the uncomfortable, the more you will become comfortable." - Seneca
"one must imagine sisyphus happy"
This was Andrew's BEST podcast conversation yet. It was so nice to see this side of him...I could see he was resisting slightly and it made me laugh to watch him in a more vulnerable space! Great podcast guys, well done
19:14 "I think the only thing better than having everything you want is not wanting anything." Andrew hits hard. Not just physically, but philosophically too.
His weakness is that he doesn't know his weaknesses
100's of millions of dollars, lived more life than perhaps anyone... I'll take the same weakness please
he knows them. he just supreses them and dont show them, like most weak people lol listen to what he says
@@Samuel_Trader_Journy I agree with you on knowing them, however he does have clear openings that you can exploit, although I'd feel like a scumbag to do so, and I wouldn't be any better than him at that point. However, if you build enough support behind you, you could likely play it off with choosing a side since there's a lot of people who hate Andrew due to his view on the world being unrelatable.
So, he's chosen his weaknesses is a more aptly worded way to say it in my belief. He also has a way to control the variables around his weaknesses that he finds easy to deal with and puts his most valuable beliefs and things he values in a very safe and defended position. Since his need for control and need for security is as high as it is, the best way to deal with him is to ignore him and provide a better alternative to the people that would likely follow him.
@@FaultyParadoxwhat are the clear openings one can exploit
@@jgoogle4256 simply, lying and pretending to agree with him. 2nd, his wife and kids.
3rd taking his audience and giving them better options. 4th, manipulation on a large scale, not on how he thinks, effectively twisting his message.
5th, showing people what following Andrew gets you, it's really nothing special you're just following a rich guy who's taking your money, and isn't going to do anything for you, your just feeding his wallet.
If you guys notice at the end. He actually got him. He got him to open up. And as soon as he felt vulnerability, he wanted to stop, hence he went for the handshake.
Even that small interaction at the end was all worth it in my opinion. He really felt himself in the end and saw fear and sadness, vulnerability and everything he went through. I believe that if they went on with the conversation 5 more mins he would break or something.
That’s was the best part the way the therapist was able to snap him back into presence just genius
Weird isn't it? For a guy who said that he doesn't let emotion affect what he does, that's exactly what happened in the end
What a grand and electrifying ignorance you have
he showed vulnerability once and you think he would break in 5 more mins cause of that?
@@Jenkai what's the problem with breaking ?
The handshake at the end was outstanding. The tension from Andrew and the acknowledgment of breakthrough from David was unmistakable. The entire conversation was perfectly wrapped up in that moment. I saw Andrew's vulnerability and it was very inspiring. Well done to both of you!
glazing
@-TimeToChangeSpot on but Andrew taint followers have mong brains and can't process all of those facts.
@-TimeToChange Exactly. Idk what these people are thinking about his vulnerability or sadness or whatever. Dude literally admitted that he wants to be as vulnerable as possible. Yet there was nothing so sad and bad in his vulnerability. The end was a fucking psychic bullshit that felt kinda gay, which andrew seemed to be uncomfortable. "Feel another man" what the heck are you on about.
@-TimeToChangeman we are all humans and therefore we also live on other levels than the rational world. There is not introvert and there is no extrovert, or at least in this case, we all work the same way.
😂 The ending was epic. Andrew just chose to put an end to the interaction as he believed it had just lost any purpose by not being able to analyze and talk anymore. So I felt he thought in a way "Great chat but now you're only wasting my time by asking me to feel your presence. Let's end this bullshit cause I've better things to do" 😂
Avoided this one for so long for some reason. Turns out to be the best interview he's ever done. Massive props to both. That's how you have a conversation.
This interview was amazing. This is the first time I've ever fully watched Andrew Tate. The final few minutes when David does that exercise to force Andrew to stay present with him when he starts to think...Andrew's leg starts tapping because he's uncomfortable and just not used to not thinking. Captivating stuff.
And I have to admit...Andrew Tate isn't who I thought he was. I relate a lot to his rational mind as I do the same thing. This is good shit here, David. Truly fascinating.
well yeah, we're humans, we don't think we die instantly. You stop thinking on a street you get hit, you stop thinking during sex you knock some chick up. Staying present means thinking about EVERY tiny thing happening at all times all the time, present means 1000% on and on edge constantly. Not being present is when you relax.
At least with me. If I'm present other people don't exist to me, they're just obstacles. It's when I'm not present and I can think I can think about other people.
@@RobertMorganI think I disagree with that take. To be present would mean to fully be in the moment and not judging the information or stimulus coming into the mind. This is the core principle behind meditation and most eastern spiritual philosophies. When you are on and on edge, you are judging all input and what it means to your existence and survival.
it's not a nervous thing. Huberman goes over this in depth. It's a trick we (adhd people) learn from an early age that helps us focus. Some people move their tongues. Some bounce their legs. It's the opposite of nervousness, it's increased focus.
More like he's a very energetic person
And David had literally nothing to offer
You can pretend he's nothing to make yourself feel better though
@@iwsajet8506I think you misinterpreted what he said. To sum up what he said, to be present isn’t necessarily paranoia but understand that LIFE happens. Situations out of our control can happen and simply acknowledging that.
That was quite an adventure. You could really see that Andrew was enjoying the questioning, as he is a man who enjoys challenges. By the end, David left him in a space that seemed to feel unfamiliar for Tate. His willingness to participate in the questioning ceased when Sutcliffe redirected his rationalizing to being into a state of presence with him. With the reaching out of Andrew's hand it felt as if he had recognized that David had taught him something as perhaps a more "veteran" opponent would in a ring. The "Round 3" request feels almost poetic given the context of Tate's professional career and relentlessness.
I'm really looking forward to the next one!
the way this therapist looks at the camera whenever he reaches a little breakthrough without Andrew noticing says it all. He's good
he's seeking attention from the audience, massive red flag, but then again I've been brain raped by a therapist who read his notes about me to a third party against my will so my trust is at zero, especially since I was in therapy for massive adoption-related trust issues.
The therapist is brilliant, he knows what he is doing, everything is well set: the little gestures, the voice, the words, it's incredible. He does alot without Andrew noticing it right away. That was not an interview or something, that was a real therapy session. I'm not sure A. Tate understood that.
yea and Tate has constructed a fucking inner castle-maze so nobody can attack or penetrate it, and this therapist got close a bunch of time
he’s not a real therapist at all lol.
@@katelynmcroberts5373 I'm sure someone who isn't a therapist would have a good opinion on if someone is a therapist or not, definitely very smart. 👍
you can tell at the end he started to become more present for a moment. I hope he continues. Everyone has more potential to grow into.
Andrew is handling the conversation like a chess board, trying to always give the right answer and avoiding being cornered.
He is reacting like an edgy college boy ( the age in which he is stuck for eternity, ever since he was joining big brother to become known, celebrity and thrive for attention).
The therapist is enjoying how many blind spots this dude has, the primary of which he considers himself "succesful" when his peaks of human contribution is playing in big brother, getting some "world champ kick box titles" in one of 320 different kick -box league ( which are all useless if the name of the league is not K1 or glory), and creating an online pimp web camera.....
Dude you did not invent anything, you did not create a groundbreaking company, you left for one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in europe, you did not even learn the language ( hyperintelligence), you pimped masses of poor eastern european girls to become rich and now after investing this wealth you act like Soros.
It’s out in the open. It’s definitely not a safe space.
Great opening, middle and then end game! Top G 100%
I've learnt from this interview that Andrew is a realist. He is not deceitful in his responses and he is spiritually generous.
Ego fully at play. Couldn't agree more with your comment.
I was depressed and diagnosed with major depressive disorder and prescribed medication. I didn't like the way the meds made me feel because i was still depressed; the meds just masked it. Found a new therapist who gave me a different perspective. I stopped taking the meds and identified the root of my depression and set a goal. Im no longer depressed and my therapist recognizes that. He tells me he can see by the way i talk now, my tone, the progress ive made toward my goal. Still on track to meeting my goal. I have even caught myself in moments of true joy. I have the tools to get myself out of low points. Extremely grateful for my therapist helping me get to where i am by giving me the tiols and different perspectives.
The meds take 2 mths to work
@@kristyhawes yup and took different ones as I had negative side effects. Tried for over a year, not worth the money, imo. This is all personal experience. They "worked" in helping me live with it but didn't resolve it.
@@kristyhawes"work" ok buddy
Keep observing the world
That which remains true despite being hit hard
You will see that your depression was just a mechanism to let you know that your mindset wasn't in alignment with reality
Depression is just a notification
@@autisticsuicidal I like what you said, "depression is just a notification." I feel that when Im in a low point. Like oops ok what happened, let's change it, then I'm back to being the person I like.
Joy comes from this video because not often do we see two ppl communicating like this. This is beautiful they are literally smiling at each other even though they don’t have the same perspectives.
Its suuuuch eyecandy, and also two such beautiful men with such beautiful hearts and interesting personas. haha
Hahah yes this is the defibition of commubicating, listening and connecting lol.
He doesnt even have a proper onologue to stixk to, he contradicts himself constantly, often several times in the same interview...if he didnt benefit from being an idiot I woud feel bad for him....smh
i used to share his exact mindset without the narcissism. but after finally altering my mindset i noticed narcissistic qualities begin to develop. they cloud your judgement and ultimately make you weaker because it shuts you off from helpful perspectives that could cover blindspots in the problem and help sharpen overall approach.
Clearly you’re very narcissistic still.
@@JasonLeal509says the narcissist seething 😂😂
@@devitus781 All I’m saying is, the man is clearly putting Tate down and uplifting himself with his comparisons. Not only that he’s clearly looking for attention. If me calling him a narcissist hurt your feelings that much, get off the internet and do some soul searching. There’s no reason to get upset.
Incredible conversation and interaction, love that you're able to ask questions that go into unchartered territory. My favourite moment, in this interview and the first one, is when you raise your voice and take over the conversation, it produces a visceral reaction that I think Andrew rarely ever feels, of someone of equal wit and conversational ability and authority in the moment, and it produces a fantastic reflective moment as a result. Kudos to you!
What's teh timestamp?
@@SuperChristLover 44:57 for the specific moment, but go back a couple of mins to get the context of the question
Absolute masterclass in challenging a polarizing personality. Only an amazing therapist could pull this off. Bravo
He didn't challenge him whatsoever.
@@onetwo3411elaborate
exactly. He sucked him off more or less., ONE KEY thing to ask him was why he thinks life is a chess game. This zero sum i must win and you must lose thinking paradigm is instilled from his dad obviously. do we need more of these kind of cockroaches?
no wonder he tops it off with brainwashing binary thinking pedophile religion islam.
@@onetwo3411 then you’re weren’t paying close enough attention. I understand how it was confusing though bc his challenges were extremely subtle and always sandwiched between compliments. When you’re dealing with a narcissist the only way you can ever get them to open up is a sort of Trojan horse - you have to hide your challenges among praise.
The last 3 or so minutes were the most important. That's when he truly let his guard down just for a small bit. The whole 2 hours he has been going on and on. It's so incredibly hard for him to let this defense down, props on both of you on letting the light shine through, even just for a tiny moment.
This was great for me to see myself in, in an extreme way, how I rationalise and think to avoid the feeling of being present.
My partner and I have to pencil in this time to our day to drop into this space - what Martin Buber calls an I-thou relationship. I think when two men can hold that awareness, as Tate does for a brief second or two, and I feel all the feelings myself watching, they enter the timelessness of relationship, it’s actually the highest form of love as it transcends any label. It can be terrifying for a man to approach with another man, because of all the pain and grief, and fear about what receiving love from another means. That therapist was brave to take him there and I respect both men for going there so publicly. Here’s to men doing ‘the work!’
I loved how different his energy became at the last part of the therapy, they were just present with each other, in the moment, wholesome to see a softer side of him which is incredibly hard to bring out.
"I refuse to be a broken man. It's disrespectful, to anybody who ever died or tried hard for me to be raised, for me to emerge from this difficulty as a broken person."
Tate has words to live by whether you like or not.
@@Firas-460 I'd do that too. Can't stop rationalizing and don't see what's wrong with that.
@@Firas-460 we had a glimpse of the real Andrew right at the end before he shut it down. You see the facial and physical expression of the vulnerable lad. It likely felt both hypnotically terrifying and comforting for him in that moment.
I do hope they both continue to meet. As much as I’d love to see it on camera, I respect Andrew if he wants to do this work in privacy.
As an analyst this interview left me buzzing. It will be discussed by many in the field for sure.
keep simping
what does that have to do with the person? Hitler had more inspiring words to live by. surface level thinking dude
@@Firas-460everybody has coping mechanisms in real life. Its literally part of life. IDC how much money you have or what you believe in. Everybody copes. You could simply cope from losing a loved one.
As a fellow therapist I loved this! I learnt a lot about myself as I am very left brain dominant like Andrew. It was interesting to watch Andrew move into a les cognitive state, his voice even changed. I also know that being busy is a trauma response, constantly doing represses our emotions so it makes sense he “never feels sad”.
If you sit all day on your ass sure you'll get sad after a good workout you are too tired to feel sad. Lazy people problem.
Maybe you should be a tad bit less empathetic towards this guy as long you’re not giving him therapy. Considering how many he’s influenced to need some.
@@JustChill-zd4ib You have like 0 idea about the topic and it shows, so please be quiet. Working out is not a problem solver for everything, sure it helps but it won´t cure your depression
@@JustChill-zd4ib you sound angry which seems to be common amongst "no sadness, only gym" bros
@@JustChill-zd4ibthats gonna bite u in the future
This is one of the best podcast I've ever watched. Thank you David
Thank you!
It was great how the therapist held him and guided the conversation so that it didn't get out of hand. I've never seen so much armor around a person. Good conversation.
So much armor
Ur small
Armour is the word. I totally agree. Sad as well.
@@Kindacutehuhyour life is sad brokie
Then you've never met anyone who truly suffered. Such a thick armor is a self-defense mechanism against intense pain, more likely than not establish in childhood as the child doesn't know another way to protect themselves. Talking from experience. I can resonate with Tate, lucky for him his way of coping and his intellect made him successful, but I bet he has a lot of pain buried deep within, that he might never resolve.
This was definitely the best podcast with Andrew ever, bringing his true feelings and source of personality out for everyone to see. We need a part 3!
Why would you want a part 3 of an arrogant manchild rambling about his superiority complex for 2 hours
Man, I think obi wan kenobi was great at listening Andrew without trying to argue even he know's about the harsh ideas that keep him protected from facing deep emotions from childhood. He is wise enough to understand how the conversation is being controlled but capable of generating reflection without engaging in a fight.
This is the best the best video I have seen in a very long time.. I hope they are able to have another session again in the future.
"That's true... BUT i also feel like..." it's his thing. Deflecting and trying very hard to always be right by the end of his monologues. In the peak of rationality. Seeing David work around him was amazing. The way David can give a compliment right before dropping "potential for self delusion" is a beautiful way to work with personalities like Tate. The last minutes were so interesting. There's your vulnerability. David is so so good.
I learned early in life that if you are gonna critique someone or point out potential flaws, the best way is always to start with a genuine compliment and then framing your point as a question to them. Atleast if you wanna move them in any other direction than they are going.... I used that technique alot in my past and during a year I actually managed to make my racist coworker change his attitude and start seeing ppl as individuals rather than judging everyone based on the most extreme example he could make up... or rather; he changed his own attitude...
A couple years later he actually thanked me for making him think and being able to let go of alot of anger he carried since being in the afghan war... -Imagine If David ends up changing Tate as a man and makes him realize he doesn't have to be a conartist and predator or even be the best, to succeed in life... That would be fuggin crazy! :D
What that techniques specifically does:
The compliment makes them lower their guards and the question makes them think about IF your point could be true instead of the opposite; An insult would raise their guards and instead of asking a postulate would make them go straight to a counterattack.
A. "I really like the way you are able to articulate your reflections clearly, but could reflection be a defense mechanism?"
B. "well... thats a good point, maybe you are right to some extend..."
as oppposed to
A. "You are really delusional and yoour reflections is a cover for your obvious insecurities and fear."
B. "I don't have any fears because I always win and you will never change that!"
I’m just going home and I’m not going back
I don't think David is working around him. The main agenda behind this conversation is to analyze Tate, therefore, as a response Tate has to explain his point of view. As he said he psycho analyzes himself. He has to have answers to most of his actions. In that case, he always has to include "buts" to ensure he gets the truth across as much as he can. I think everyone who psycho-analyzes themselves will answer just the same.
@@TalesofTwoWorlds1 i constantly psychoanalyze myself and i do the same, just like you said trying to get the complete picture there
He is truly the most insane and delusional Man pretending to be a Man that exist.
Fascinating how Tate's entire body language changes in the last two minutes, no wonder he was so quick to shake hands and end the discussion. Brilliant conversation!
That's why he reached out his hands to end the conversation as well. He was looking side to side and thinking about what to say to keep the upperhand. Brilliant work by the therapist to expose how uneasy Andrew gets if he can't somehow one-up his opponent.
The way his leg keeps shaking at the end, wow!
Jesus loves yall, died for us, and rose again! Jesus calls for all of us to repent! He's coming back!
well in the last two minutes hes literally in a position that I think a good majority might find themselves uncomfortable with. Im not taking sides but the fact that we have casual viewers try to psychoanalyze his body language is wild to me. I might be in the most comfortable position on the couch with my buddies and shake my leg everyonce in a while where I find myself in the present and have to fiddle with something to distract myself. A lot of these actions can be seen literally everywhere, you don't have to be exposed, vulnerable for these actions to show. Honestly I think a wide study would bring intriguing results especially with therapist involvement but overall when you find you have nothing to do, other than during meditating times/mindfulness sessions you would find yourself fiddling or trying to fill that empty space.
@@milkxv it has thankfully nothing to do with psychoanalysis to recognize or talk about body language. Could be anything, but sometimes it is quite obvious it isn't. Usually when a group of people recognize the body expressing some internal emotions, they will come up with a plethora of details they thought was the trigger. But usually that is just rationalizing an empathic response.
I think we all know, body language can be deceiving, but it sometimes is revealing, just as being over protective, is, as someone who does not take sides. Smirk.
This was far more interesting than I initially expected!
the therapist is VERY good at his job.
3/4th's of an hour in, and he´s finally got andrew to realise and admit he has been actively attempting to control the conversation.
most ''interviewers'' are leagues away from an actual, open and honest talk with Tate, yet this guy is breezing through it.
great content!
Imagine putting so much effort into staying out of touch with your true self and building defence walls around you. This reminded me of my years of drug addiction... I've got nothing against this guy. He's free to cope with his traumas the way he chooses to, but the fact that he is a role model is rather disturbing.
Whatever he did, seems to work for him.
I'd listen to him over a random therapist.
Just discover and subscribed to David Sutcliffe. Great questions with an amicable energy. How has this channel NOT blown up? Thanks man!
his short videos are powerful and truthful.
this channel needs to blow up asap.
Let’s go ! Overnight channel explosion.
Same here…. Dave knew what he was doing 😊…..
how is it even possible...
Because he barely uploads. He needs to invite more interesting guests. Tristan next would be perfect
The last few minutes are so interesting. Asking Andrew to soften, be present, not think or feel it necessary to talk, was very fascinating to witness. I noticed he decided to end the meeting there. Maybe that was too much for now. When we have deep fears of intimacy and vulnerability, it can be very hard to stay truly present with the person encouraging you to feel that. I hope Andrew continues speaking with you, David. If this at all encouraged Andrew's self-reflection, or helped him to notice how useful therapy may be (and he actually goes), that'd be phenomenal.
I watched the whole thing. Incredible work.
You got him to see how his definition of “love” did not include the actual emotion of it. I can totally see how he would get to that conclusion given the kind of childhood he had and his relationship with his father.
Language can be very limited. Two people can utter the same word, but have different definitions of it. This level of thoroughness is necessary to catch the discrepancies in communication.
As Andrew said, his presence kicked on when he needed to survive. His only reference to presence was in moments of fear/anger/anxiety. Therefore his association with presence, which is the state one would need to get in to feel love, is now connected to moments of survival rather than intimacy or vulnerability.
Great comment. There's a clip i watched of Tate where he says he only feels alive when there is danger present. That would be consistent with your insightful analysis.
@@fitprotunesthere's no bravery without fear, no stepping up to the occasion etc
I was a good friends with a man, he mentored me for a few years, who was basically a sociopath and a bit of a hustler. He had the same trait - when we talked about love, he defined it as "accepting someone". I couldn't get him to budge when I talked about it also involving emotional attachment - for instance, you accept a chair, that's not the same as loving it. The idea seemed foreign to him - like it didn't compute.
The man had his good qualities, but he was also like a reptile. And unfortunately I started to realize how much he used and sometimes abused the people around him for his own benefit. It was a lot like the story of the frog and the scorpion - no matter how good what the man said sounded, it was in his nature to sting. He himself would probably have agreed. I believe Andrew is the same. Similar kind of character.
Question then is - why do so many want to be the frog in that equation.
Do you know about his childhood ? I’ve always wondered what kind of childhood he had and he never really seems to want to open up about it. I suspect he might have grown up with a narcissist parent.
@@annamayssa8614I suspect the same. The stories he's told about his father paint a picture of a man who was often absent, harsh and demanding. He told one story about seeing his father in a fist fight at a store. Most fathers are not going to be getting into a physical fight when their small son is there, unless it's to defend him (which it wasn't).
Tate's logical value system is merely utilitarian and about "winning", it doesn't matter about facing his own demons or facing the truth.
"As long as I win who cares about the truth. The only truth that matters is that I won."
Circular reasoning.
It's a very shallow value system and an avoidance strategy based on an external locus of control.
The first podcast you guys made was one of the most impactful things I've ever listened to in my life. Ready for round 2
What do you think about this one compared to the first?
@@maddirectortv6421 He talks too much to avoid being asked about all the scams he was talking about willingly in 2020 and 2021 about stealing money with his chicks from incels. Love them or hate them, that's illegal. He needs to grow a spine, do the time, and act on the $hit he preaches about. Until then, he's not different than the manb!tch he cries about.
@@vkshortssWe're i can whatch the first one
Can't find the first one. I'll pay 5 bucks to whoever posts it or directs me to where I can watch it
Its in the description
@58:57 as a Licensed Therapist, this part of the interview was excellent therapeutic work and honestly made me endeared to Tate in a way I never thought possible😊“The sword is right there, you just don’t have to use it all the time.”👏♥️ Powerful.
1:40:28 😂😂 therapist - " stop thinking"
Andrew -" i cant stop thinking "
Therapist-"you can stop thinking, if you cant stop thinking, you dont have control over your mind
Andrew - alright i cant have that💭 - " alright cool I've stop thinking but"...😂
Absolutely the best and most telling part of the interview. Amazing.
He Could Probably Benefit From A Few .@JLPtalk vids, heh heh
@@iamrambo99 😄😄 Absolutely
Summary of Andrew's advice all is fair in light and in darkness, he is a balance of both and the world is uncomfortable of becoming like him
And And
Pain is a negative label for discomfort in our body which is temporary.. I do not use the word pain in my vocabulary. If I feel discomfort, I remind myself it is temporary and analyse why it's presenting and work with that. I admire the constant positive mindset of the highly inspirational Andrew.
Full praise to David for his indescribable patience, excellent questions, and all his effort in order to not hurt Tate's ego. Really enjoyed it!
If he doesn't hurt his ego he is no therapist the ego is a scam if a therapist doesn't confront the scam he is one himself
@@Holyinductorits a natural thing to have an ego, its literally something necessary for survival. Why tf do you keep trying to humiliate and annihilate everyone‘s pride? Are you psychopaths?
God literally brings tests TO confront our ego. Many people see this as growing through pain, but its not true. God doesn't bring us pain, he just brings us stuff to confront our ego. We always grow when we drop a bit more ego and release a little more stored pain.
@@Holyinductor a good therapist will never hurt an ego, only challenge it within empathetic bounds
@@Holyinductor Absolutely incorrect imo, I believe a true therapist as seen in the video can deliver thought provoking questions without the need to peneitrate someone's ego.
An ego is absolutely important, let's say the therapist here started degrading tate now what would that do? Probably make tate defensive less open and overall wouldn't be beneficial. Don't make wild claims without supporting your opinion, anyway I'd say the certified psycho therapist is more qualified to ask questions as opposed to you lol.
Within the past two years I have legitimately listened to 100 plus hours of Andrew Tate speak through podcasts, vlogs etc. This was the first time I have ever wanted Andrew to talk less and listen more, specifically towards the end of the video when they started discussing Andrew's childhood, father, and the concept of being present. David analyzed and dissected him like I have never seen anyone do before, this was beyond amazing to watch and listen. Truly great work from both parties here, thank you so much for sharing this! I hope the two of you remain in contact and decide to make more content later on down the road. Also thank you David for a new mantra! Yes, thank you.
Same here bro. He's the best person Andrew has ever talked to. Him and Tom Segura lol. The first one he did with David was incredibly insightful and introspective. The one with Tom Segura was ridiculously hilarious. This podcast was as good as I thought it was going to be. Truly wise people are rare in this world and David is clearly one of them
I’ve literally heard 3 to 5 hours almost a day for the last year of hundreds of Andrews interviews and podcasts. You should look up his stuff before he got famous. Those are the true gems 💎
I agree. I think though Andrew is very careful with his word’s especially on camera. I think he’ll go away and internalise this conversation and then we’ll see it’s true impact. I hope he even continued the conversation with David off screen
Don't forget about Tom's wife, Christina. She played amazingly into the his persona and the jokes. Probably the funniest female podcaster/standup on UA-cam right now.
That’s fucked up 100 hours. I’m sure you could’ve used that time more productively. Use your mind man
David summarized 1 pattern occuring over and over again in the interview at the end. there are moments where andrew is really talking genuinely, with thoughts emerging from the presence, but then he starts talking about his pre-conceived ideas and goes on a rant about a topic he knows very well, fore-going the present moment. this happens again and again, and the few brief moments where andrew's voice slows down, and we can tell he is thinking and answering with new thought, those were the only moments i genuinely enjoyed watching.
I clicked on this video not thinking I would watch more than 5 minutes... 2h later - this is fascinating. Brilliant watch and interview David - From 2:00:00 on, I completely agree, and feel that Andrew covered this exceptionally well. Confusing love with tolerance - 11/10.
This was a truly great conversation. Especially the end. Thank you.
This saved my life and the lives of the people who are in my life. Past 2 weeks i was distracted and that made me feel depressed. I could not find a reason to stay alive anymore. This interview reminded me that i don't have time to be depressed or suicidal. Because it is not about me. It is about the people who rely on me. I need to make sure that they are taken care of.
I learned so much from this! Thank you so much for this and fixing my brain.
Wrote every point down, wil read it to remind myself of it every night.
You have now a model so don't waste it bro
Congrats bro you're on the right path
When you feel negative, tell yourself that you just feel sad, feel in a bad mood, feel alone, feel hopeless or feel stuck, but don’t call it depression. When you call it by it’s real name - those words I described above, you get to understand that those are just emotions, feelings and not a permanent state of mind. Then write down 20 amazing beautiful magical things which can lift your mood up! Then do them one by one you will see that there are so many amazing things left in this world which you yet need to experience and feel! Omg!
He's terrified of vulnerability, but doesn't realize he'll only be fully free once he embraces vulnerability.
no, i think that's what makes him "free". its that he is not.
I think he has accepted the fact that you can be vulnerable, he's just put himself in a position where he's not. And I guess he's terrified of losing that position.
A caveman showing his "vulnerability" would be advertising his own downfall. He'd get eaten by a tiger the same day.
@@avgpiece No, the caveman understanding his vulnerability is what would drive him to avoid the tiger
@@avgpiece are we just cavemen?
Ngl this guy David is an absolute master. Waiting for the perfect times to ask questions he already knows the answer to. But showing patience in a way that Andrew could also see he’s not trying to catch him or paint him in a bad light. Slowly disarming his defenses was top notch work and respect. Andrew has amazing potential and could use a little healthy friendly direction. Let him be him but just question him to think about what his subconscious mind does. I’ve paid more and more attention to myself in similar way over the years and the growth that comes as a reaction to that is incredible. Not to mention a correct view of one’s self is the necessity in relationship to God and others. All in all David you’re doing awesome and so far great interview
I really appreciated this, especially the end - you got him to be in the moment for a moment and it was really wholesome to watch. i loved the smiles right at the end. Hope to see more Wholesome moments like that. Thanks for this.
“Every man must make a choice either go to war and come back with stories or sit home and be second mom”. Loved it ❤
this has honestly been the most realist, interesting, and motivating conversation ive heard in such a long time.
yikes
@@CrowForLifeShare your opinion instead of unnecessarily condemning others, friend.
Watching the debate between people with sometimes opposite world views, it's refreshing to see them stay calm and open. They're just two professionals having a real conversation.
I agree with this man, especially when it comes to refusing to be a victim, and grateful to our parents instead of looking for what was missing.. from experience those choices make u keep going if not you will never be able to go forward ( trust me have been there) ❤
This is not a realistic mindset to have. He’s still human and prone to error. This was a full on display of narcissism.
imagine being so sulky@@garydomaz1849
@@garydomaz1849 I disagree, error is okay but being a victim wont get you were you want to be. Sure he might sound narcisisstic but theres a little narcissim thats required to achieve what you to. I hope you can see the good in his points. i wish you the best in life
@@garydomaz1849 not to have, more like try to have because yes this is too perfect and trying to be perfect will make you the closest to it
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
Loved this. I’m in a point in my life that I can’t really afford therapy, but listening to a conversation like this has helped me learn a little bit about myself; even if the topic is completely unrelated to me, I can still take what’s said and apply it to my own perspective. I related a lot with the both of you, and the part at the end is something that I don’t think Andrew quite grasped, but something that I appreciated, especially after losing my dad.
one of the most impactful podcasts i've every watched. EVERY man needs to watch this 10 times over.
Tate is a courageous person. He's the perfect warrior. He's the guy you'd want on the battle field with you. However, the criticism that he's insensitive is evident not just in problem solving, but in understanding others and their weaknesses. He has trouble with forgiveness and compassion. He is fighting everyone to win. If you come to him with a weakness, he wouldn't value your worth beyond what advantageous he can exploit from you. The worth of an individual is measured by his courage and strength. I think he has a lot to offer people today because he absolutely obliterates the victim mentality. He embraces loyalty and fulfilling promises. But he fails to recognise the value of the virtue and strength of forgiveness.
1:10 what's useful is more important than what's true
I don't believe in anything that takes power from me
3:00 analyse why you hold the believes you do, where it came from, who tried to teach you that,
what were their intentions for you
4:30 his perspective on depression
6:00 dealing with uncertainty in jail
8:30 using anger as a positive tool
11:00 accountability
12:15 unresolved fear
15:00 fixing your own mind
15:45 which mindset do I need, anything deviating me from that needs to be addressed
17:10 fear shouldn't guide your actions. Use negative emotions to your benefit. The flavour of life is pain. Eat all of it. Enjoy bad things
21:15 use delusion to your advantage if it gives you the best chance of winning
22:53 don't be a coward. Don't be afraid of emotions, anxiety, depression or any negative feeling
23:55 what tate fears
24:06 your emotions shouldn't affect your productivity
24:20 how he is making sense of what happened to him
100% accountability
27:00 making a courageous choice in the face of fear and emerging stronger
37:00 not caring about people negative slander or perception of him. Doesn't bother him cause it's not true
39:30 is it painful when people misrepresent
what you say, project things on you or judge you incorrectly. It doesn't bother him because those people are already paying the price for their ignorance
40:15 your either at war with your brain or at war with them
If you're not what they are saying, don't let it bother you. They are fat trolls and losers and you should beat them in every human metric possible
41:53 don't feel pain when people say false and hurtful things about you, because anybody who will believe that has and will continue to pay the price because of their world view, lack of critical thinking, love of negativity I, habit of gossiping and speaking of things they do not know about in detail
43:40 weaponised virtue and resentment
44:00 they can't call me stupid, unsuccessful, fat, ugly, not charming or not charismatic so they weapon a virtue
47:45 emotional vulnerability. Tate and why that didn't get sympathy from him
49:59 don't fail in any scenario
50:55 how he handled jail. What choice do I have
1:02:00 what he thinks his responsibility is to god, his family and himself
1:02:39 what he wakes up thinking everyday
1:03:38 how he handled jail
1:04:45 with the capability to become anything you want and all the unlimited options and a greatly capable body and mind given by God, how do you find time to be sad
1:05:10 as a man anything that is inside your mind that doesn't allow you to be competitive should be erased
1:10:50 the power source felt through your last name, your ancestors generations, the bloodline
1:17:30 emotional energy and buckets - feel the energy and decide which emotion to put it in
1:20:30 death and rebirth-does god want to break him so he comes back stronger with a wealth of knowledge
1:26:45 you have to perform. Don't let things steal your focus, even if you have to rationalise, say it any way convincing to yourself to install it in your brain that allows you to compete
1:28:48 yes, thank you, what ever comes (acceptance & gratitude)
1:30:00 the moral arch of the universe bends towards truth and justice in the end
1:30:40 coward point,my only fear is me knowing I am a coward, really liked the point, (and even just the idea of me being the coward would burn the world down)
The sheer thought of weakness enrages me
I am not that weak guy
1:33:48 how he would approach going back to jail mentally
1:35:10 what he leamt about himself in jail
1:37:20 nightmares after jail and dealing with it He already analysed worst case scenario and followed the plan
1:38:10 putting so much importance on how you feel as a man, makes you less competitive
1:38:20 presence segment
1:42:20 what he values over presence
1:44:20 his father not being around as a kid not bothering him
thanks
👍🏻
Honestly, this was great and I found myself finally seeing why Andrew does and says the things he does. I actually enjoyed hearing him speak. lol great video!
Loved this.
An actual conversation with the man, where a safe space was created.....instead of friction.
As someone who's never really had the outlet for these types of conversations, nor was privy to men who talked/thought like this (too often) growing up, this has been extremely insightful; and would love to see another episode.
The thing I've noticed the most is how happy and relieved tate seemed speaking to someone who is aiming to understand who he is from a deeper perspective, rather than interviewers asking questions that are designed to provoke and put him into defense mode. It's funny how different his persona is when speaking to this guy. I just think tate keeps himself busy to avoid his real fears, feelings and problems. He's hit the nail on the head.
The idea that David brought up on being present really stood out to me, as it is a sentiment of tremendous truth and simplicity, yet tremendously difficult for the mind to metabolize. That's why when we look at philosophers of the past such as Marcus Aurelius, who so blatantly said that we can't be absolutely sure that something will happen in the future. Thus, you can't keep allowing your mind to be a slave, to kick against fate and the present, and to mistrust the future.
“When you realize you are mortal you also realize the tremendousness of the future. You fall in love with a Time you will never perceive”-Etel Adand
They need to make a series out of this. Seriously. This is so good on so many levels for so many men (women too but more for men) they need to consider doing this regularly.
I love how it was not just two men debating but actual conversation. It felt as though you could relate not only to their words but also their emotions.
@David: You did a great job reflecting his perspective throughout, while asking thoughtful questions that allowed him to be vulnerable. Speaking of depth and connection in human relationships - he will certainly deliver results, and you possess a depth that Andrew seems to lack - though this is merely an observation from afar. Perhaps this longing for depth is woven into the very fabric of human consciousness - some have learned to navigate these waters with grace, while others remain trapped in an endless struggle, unable to surrender their need for control.
Thank you!
Andrew is very intellectual and is very much committed to his “mental model”. I wonder if that is puts him in his own matrix. A matrix that won’t allow feelings to have any space, only definitions.
I hope they have another chat. This sounded like a first therapy chat where he came in trying to be the therapist - which might be counter productive in a lot of ways.
Thanks Andrew and the therapist for a very insightful interaction.
This was the most interesting interview I've ever listened to. This really made Andrew seem so much more human than what people make him out to be. David is also SUCH a good interviewer. Loved every minute of it.
Edit: y’all make it seem like I’m agreeing with Andrew. I’m not. It was just an interesting interview. My personality more like the interviewer, and the way he asks questions is so good. So. Go into my comment knowing that I’m by no means an Andrew Tate fan.
you have not watched him abusing women and stealing their money to get rich from web cams then.
very true. im a young man not to the degree of wealth as tate but alot of Quality i can share with tate and its hard when youve become the hero or the protector and you been looked at as a evil person when you’re trying to do good
@@wayne3093not only women. Him and Tristan also manipulated men. He’s an opportunist and a very high performing narcissistic, one that has the ability to charm people
You need to live a little, this was entertainment and that's it.
Then you really buy some bullshit lies , bro here bragged about taking millions from people then said he didn't exploit them because someone else would do it....common bro
Great interview David. You deserve more subscribers. The way you both lead the conversation is just amazing.
Can't exist a better podcast than this on the internet.
Damn this podcast is so good - like we see Tate actually speaking truthfully this is how he really feels - not just a facade like people think - I actually relate to how he feels being going through a lot and I feel depressed but I would deny it and this helps me push on
yhyh exactly
I would advice on being careful with what denying it means. Depression is a feeling but it's important to understand "why" we are having that feeling and work through it and understand it. In order to Get through life we shouldn't deny ourselves the feelings or ignore. We should come to peace with it and find a solution. Thats not saying Depression defeats you or you are going to sit in depression. It means you are giving yourself self growth to recognize why you feel, how not to, how to avoid getting there again. I have weeks where i just don't understand why mentally I am in a rut and i just ignore and push through but I find it better when I sit and really look at myself and my situations and people around me and do some self searching to Why and how to not feel this way. It goes a long ways and I get less in a rut each time because I'm learning to handle these emotions, situations and facing them head on. It's not pushing feelings aside or way down.
@@kittyisme5297I do exactly this also
For anyone who does not understand, Tate suggests that experiencing "depressive feelings" is different from "depression." He believes that while one might encounter depressive feelings, succumbing to depression implies a passive acceptance of these feelings. This perspective emphasizes that individuals can choose to confront and challenge depressive feelings instead of feeling powerless to them.
You don’t choose to succumb to depression. I have diagnosed PTSD and MDD. I do agree that I would have no motivation to be where I’m at if I didn’t have these mental struggles. Because of my mental Illness I’m 23, have a house, became a single mom for a year due to both of us not working on our mental health, have my degree, in school for nursing and working as an office manager as a medical assistant, own my car, no debt, 750 credit, 13k I’m savings, now recently married to my sons dad and I did all of what I mentioned in one year on my own. I had sexual abuse as a child..father not in my life and step dad is an alcoholic. Without my struggles I wouldn’t be where I’m at but I ALSO have had to FIGHT burnout when it was all done and my body just gave up. I lost 45 pounds in that year, had a bleeding ulcer, and it resulted in anemia. Depression isn’t only mental it affects the physical well being over time. I think I’m successful for my age now but with all the money my husband and I made…it would’ve meant nothing If I didn’t have my son and partner in my life. Andrew Tate having multiple kids in broken homes and multiple failed relationships honestly kinda shows the side effect of not healing your mental health. Yes he’s rich, but he still has a void.
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That’s true. Just choose to not be depressed.
TRUE no such thing called as depression or feeling depressed exist in any third world country bc people don't have time to complain or bs about life. These things only happens in developed countries where people worry too much about little things.
@@Goodlife-x9h That isn't remotely close to what was said at all. Depression very much is a real thing, and even Andrew said that he indeed has a very intimate relationship with exactly that, and that is exactly why he's disciplined and convinced himself that it's not real *for him*. He knows how to fight it, he knows how to subdue it and assume control over it and not let it take over, not let it get in the way or manifest itself outside of the containment in his own mind.
People do feel depression, and people can absolutely be diagnosed with depression. The brain is a very complex structure and will be shaped and formed by many exterior factors that may be beyond your control. Or, if you're a believer in God, you may simply have been put on a path of endless tormenting trials of the mind. People in third world countries do experience this, you may just not perceive it the same or be subject to it the same. This isn't to say that you should give in to it, but ignoring it is nothing but idiocy. Taking control of it and manipulating it to strengthen yourself is positive, ignoring it and pretending it's not a thing is foolishness.
Acknowledge it and reject it. Or just gaslight the ever-living fuck out of yourself I guess, whatever floats your boat.
4 grams of shrooms would destroy this man
Most men no doubt
It sure destroyed you there, Crystal.
Psychedelic entities are demons
LMAOOO
Shrooms have a tendency to bypass our protector parts and take us straight to our exiles. This guy would have the ego death to end all ego deaths and come out the other side having witnessed his scared little wounded inner child sitting in the abyss waiting for him. Probably do him a world of good.
For a second I thought the title of the video was Andrew Tate vs The Rapist 😂