Andrew Tate vs Therapist (Round 2)
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- David Sutcliffe tries to crack the indomitable Andrew Tate.
Recorded in Bucharest, Romania, July 5, 2023.
Round 1: • The Psychosphere #3: A...
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00:36 - Psychotherapist explains why podcast is unique
01:02 - People interested in me, but not interested in secrets
01:41 - Whats useful, whats true
03:59 - Competitive mindset, experiences challenge beliefs
07:17 - Frustration, fear, anger in Guantanamo Bay
09:39 - Anger masks pain in jail
12:02 - I dont sleep well because of nightmares
12:43 - Unresolved fear no fun, no control
15:45 - Selfassessment Success through mindset
18:48 - Magic trick and selfdelusion
19:10 - Dont want anything, enjoy life, enjoy emotions
21:01 - Delusional selfconfident in winning battles
23:55 - Fear No, Im not a victim
26:24 - Confident voices, balanced, selfassessment
26:45 - Deposed Romanian nationalist leader Nicolae Hulots statement
31:23 - Exploiting men online for money
33:06 - Exploiting women for financial gain
35:51 - Discussing threats against him, Trump I have no intention of saving everybody
38:10 - Psychoanalysis Media slandering me, unfair
42:57 - Resentful people tried to destroy Tates life
43:41 - Hate speech weaponizes virtue
46:01 - Emotional manipulation vulnerability, manipulation, tactics
47:31 - Vulnerable manipulation tactic, not crying
52:25 - Humility, tacticality, and trust in selfreflection
54:32 - I analyze every word carefully
55:06 - Problem solvers become insensitive to crying
56:41 - Humility competence over arrogance
57:05 - Humility shapes reality, not arrogance
59:09 - Rationalizing limits minds ability to understand reality
59:48 - I rationalize, but I feel things
01:00:17 - Sensitive, arrogant, but not depressed
01:01:13 - I dont think Im unrealistic
01:01:47 - Success Gods desire for me to be the best version of myself
01:04:32 - Depressed men should be hyper competitive
01:05:32 - Competitive mind, belief in God boosts power
01:07:21 - Lifes subjectiveness and Gods influence on worldview
01:10:43 - Grateful for ancestors sacrifices, refusal to be broken
01:12:21 - Try your best, dont waste a minute
01:12:48 - I got hit with a lucky punch, but I did my best
01:13:16 - Oration skills art, flow, God state
01:13:42 - Flow state, emotional voice, superpower
01:15:18 - Power Persuasion, influence, charity
01:16:55 - Power to feel good, choose emotions, achieve success
01:19:09 - Win or lose, avoid happy hole
01:22:14 - Tristan Thompsons superpower Dont care about jail
01:22:44 - Jail, nightmares, and Gods influence on Trumps decision not to break
01:24:03 - Vulnerability in Romanian jail torture
01:24:21 - Jail in Romania for 93 days
01:25:23 - Handling emotions in jail, learning lessons
01:26:30 - Top G idolizes success, stressfree life
01:29:00 - Embracing Gods will for success
01:31:59 - Courage, love, vulnerability, fearless choice
01:33:43 - Win VIP hotel, learn new skills in prison
01:36:14 - Is there a side order of nightmares?
01:36:38 - I learned a lot about myself in this scenario
01:36:59 - Psychoanalysis Fulfilling plan, avoiding nightmares, and Presence
01:41:08 - Focus, presence, joy, sadness in life
01:44:40 - Discussing her fathers busy life Hes a full grown man
01:45:14 - Depressed son seeks fathers love, earns time
01:47:45 - Duty, love, and gratitude for father
01:49:54 - Tate Family Promises Not Disobeying Grateful, Ungrateful
01:51:49 - My fathers example Dont stay at home, be a hero
01:52:25 - Quality of time vs quantity
01:53:01 - Father sacrificed marriage for sons legacy
01:54:57 - Mens high levels of competence lead to successful relationships
01:58:14 - Love drives mens success
01:59:08 - Loves power, value, and importance in life
02:03:05 - Fathers Love Unconditional, Hard, Fierce
02:05:46 - Moment of presence helps boost love
02:09:15 - Happy Full spectrum of human emotion
02:12:46 - The teams performance was lauded by fans
God bless you
Caralho, maluco é foda.
Thank you so mucbahahah I t was easier this way
Amazing. Thank you!
Not all heroes wear capes ❤
The therapist dude is so smart he stumped Andrew a few times without Andrew even noticing.Increased my respect for these guys a lot.
exactly
@@julietrabka🤣🤣🤣
@@julietrabkabro Andrew made his money off of women even with their consent that is still profiting of their body and flying them into a country to do that is not only sex trafficking/human trafficking and pornography. Then he made you pay money to learn how to make money.
@@julietrabkaidiot 😂
its funny, he has him under his control
Bro, it‘s so interesting how the therapist has patience and exactly knows how to talk to a complicated person like Andrew. Really interesting interview
He ain't complicated
Probably complex character is a better description than complicated
@@wds424facts. he’s the most straightforward man on earth with pure logic in every statement
@@Hunterartman13there’s nothing complicated about him. He is a charismatic, confident, intelligent guy who wants to stay relevant through whatever means & become famous. May be it’s all an act, humans do love actors after all 😎& drama off course.
Some of the things he says is delusional surely but aren’t we all ?
At the end of the day he has achieved what he was pursuing.
Depressed insecure man who hates other men bc they’re better than him occurs in the population at a very high rate.
love that we've finally tricked andrew tate into going to therapy lmfao
Was supposed to be a negative thing from you people but turns him into a good person and more respected now so 1+ Tate 0 Haters lmfaooooo
@@silent1823 lol, how is it bad to wish someone go to therapy? If i want negative things to someone, i really wouldn‘t have in mind, to send my enemy to therapy :-) rofl
😊This is my first time seeing andrew owning up to his vulnerabilities and i l love him more for that. The therapist is good at it. I honestly think he should do same with more therapist, probably a series. It will benefit both Andrew and his listeners.
@@atlantamedia9541bc why does he need therapy?
the tate brother once joke about how they want to meet with a therapist.@@ashashh1260
His weakness is that he doesn't know his weaknesses
100's of millions of dollars, lived more life than perhaps anyone... I'll take the same weakness please
he knows them. he just supreses them and dont show them, like most weak people lol listen to what he says
@@Samuel_Trader_Journy I agree with you on knowing them, however he does have clear openings that you can exploit, although I'd feel like a scumbag to do so, and I wouldn't be any better than him at that point. However, if you build enough support behind you, you could likely play it off with choosing a side since there's a lot of people who hate Andrew due to his view on the world being unrelatable.
So, he's chosen his weaknesses is a more aptly worded way to say it in my belief. He also has a way to control the variables around his weaknesses that he finds easy to deal with and puts his most valuable beliefs and things he values in a very safe and defended position. Since his need for control and need for security is as high as it is, the best way to deal with him is to ignore him and provide a better alternative to the people that would likely follow him.
@@FaultyParadoxwhat are the clear openings one can exploit
@@jgoogle4256 simply, lying and pretending to agree with him. 2nd, his wife and kids.
3rd taking his audience and giving them better options. 4th, manipulation on a large scale, not on how he thinks, effectively twisting his message.
5th, showing people what following Andrew gets you, it's really nothing special you're just following a rich guy who's taking your money, and isn't going to do anything for you, your just feeding his wallet.
I love the way the therapist expresses the importance of processing emotions.
Yeah he's very good at this
Yet men are constantly told that expression, which is a form of processing, is vile when it comes from them, so they should abstain from it.
But open up.
But not show anger.
But let it all go.
But show restraint.
By those very "therapists".
Where’s the time line on it?
Jesus loves yall, died for us, and rose again! Jesus calls for all of us to repent! He's coming back!
curious but, how is that meassured. if you are functional and doing good in your life. Is it healthy, to feel bad about your emotions if you are happy with yourself and by world standard "successfull".
4 grams of shrooms would destroy this man
Most men no doubt
It sure destroyed you there, Crystal.
Psychedelic entities are demons
LMAOOO
Shrooms have a tendency to bypass our protector parts and take us straight to our exiles. This guy would have the ego death to end all ego deaths and come out the other side having witnessed his scared little wounded inner child sitting in the abyss waiting for him. Probably do him a world of good.
A great therapist is not one to say the “right things” but one to ask the right questions, to listen, to instigate thoughts in the client organically and to seamlessly lay the armor of the client’s down. Such a fresh breeze of sights with him. Great job!
Thank you!
No clue who you are but just wanted to mention you look incredible.
@@Mickk0205 you aint pulling her bro bro
He's terrified of vulnerability, but doesn't realize he'll only be fully free once he embraces vulnerability.
no, i think that's what makes him "free". its that he is not.
I think he has accepted the fact that you can be vulnerable, he's just put himself in a position where he's not. And I guess he's terrified of losing that position.
A caveman showing his "vulnerability" would be advertising his own downfall. He'd get eaten by a tiger the same day.
@@avgpiece No, the caveman understanding his vulnerability is what would drive him to avoid the tiger
@@avgpiece are we just cavemen?
i know that tate hates books, but i got recommended from someone on tates old hustlers group about a book 'Unveiling Your Hidden Potential' by Bruce Thornwood and it's honestly life-chaging
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@@TopG-lu1hq ok bot
@@Cine95 😂🍀⚔️
This interview was amazing. This is the first time I've ever fully watched Andrew Tate. The final few minutes when David does that exercise to force Andrew to stay present with him when he starts to think...Andrew's leg starts tapping because he's uncomfortable and just not used to not thinking. Captivating stuff.
And I have to admit...Andrew Tate isn't who I thought he was. I relate a lot to his rational mind as I do the same thing. This is good shit here, David. Truly fascinating.
well yeah, we're humans, we don't think we die instantly. You stop thinking on a street you get hit, you stop thinking during sex you knock some chick up. Staying present means thinking about EVERY tiny thing happening at all times all the time, present means 1000% on and on edge constantly. Not being present is when you relax.
At least with me. If I'm present other people don't exist to me, they're just obstacles. It's when I'm not present and I can think I can think about other people.
@@RobertMorganI think I disagree with that take. To be present would mean to fully be in the moment and not judging the information or stimulus coming into the mind. This is the core principle behind meditation and most eastern spiritual philosophies. When you are on and on edge, you are judging all input and what it means to your existence and survival.
it's not a nervous thing. Huberman goes over this in depth. It's a trick we (adhd people) learn from an early age that helps us focus. Some people move their tongues. Some bounce their legs. It's the opposite of nervousness, it's increased focus.
More like he's a very energetic person
And David had literally nothing to offer
You can pretend he's nothing to make yourself feel better though
@@iwsajet8506I think you misinterpreted what he said. To sum up what he said, to be present isn’t necessarily paranoia but understand that LIFE happens. Situations out of our control can happen and simply acknowledging that.
As a fellow therapist I loved this! I learnt a lot about myself as I am very left brain dominant like Andrew. It was interesting to watch Andrew move into a les cognitive state, his voice even changed. I also know that being busy is a trauma response, constantly doing represses our emotions so it makes sense he “never feels sad”.
If you sit all day on your ass sure you'll get sad after a good workout you are too tired to feel sad. Lazy people problem.
Maybe you should be a tad bit less empathetic towards this guy as long you’re not giving him therapy. Considering how many he’s influenced to need some.
@@JustChill-zd4ib You have like 0 idea about the topic and it shows, so please be quiet. Working out is not a problem solver for everything, sure it helps but it won´t cure your depression
@@JustChill-zd4ib you sound angry which seems to be common amongst "no sadness, only gym" bros
@@JustChill-zd4ibthats gonna bite u in the future
This was Andrew's BEST podcast conversation yet. It was so nice to see this side of him...I could see he was resisting slightly and it made me laugh to watch him in a more vulnerable space! Great podcast guys, well done
David summarized 1 pattern occuring over and over again in the interview at the end. there are moments where andrew is really talking genuinely, with thoughts emerging from the presence, but then he starts talking about his pre-conceived ideas and goes on a rant about a topic he knows very well, fore-going the present moment. this happens again and again, and the few brief moments where andrew's voice slows down, and we can tell he is thinking and answering with new thought, those were the only moments i genuinely enjoyed watching.
The first podcast you guys made was one of the most impactful things I've ever listened to in my life. Ready for round 2
What do you think about this one compared to the first?
@@maddirectortv6421 He talks too much to avoid being asked about all the scams he was talking about willingly in 2020 and 2021 about stealing money with his chicks from incels. Love them or hate them, that's illegal. He needs to grow a spine, do the time, and act on the $hit he preaches about. Until then, he's not different than the manb!tch he cries about.
@@vkshortssWe're i can whatch the first one
Can't find the first one. I'll pay 5 bucks to whoever posts it or directs me to where I can watch it
Its in the description
this has honestly been the most realist, interesting, and motivating conversation ive heard in such a long time.
yikes
@@CrowForLifeShare your opinion instead of unnecessarily condemning others, friend.
I love how it was not just two men debating but actual conversation. It felt as though you could relate not only to their words but also their emotions.
One reason why I didn't pursue becoming a clinical psychologist is because clients tend to be defensive, rationalize their actions, and tend to blame therapists why they can't be fixed. Therapists are just there to support you, but you as the client is the only one who has the power to fix yourself, and being vulnerable and honest are crucial to getting results in therapy.
He said he doesn't believe in permanent depression. Which is interesting because someone who's depressed isn't going to be depressed 100% of the time. I think the definitions he's using are a little different than the way other people use them
This was a truly magnificent conversation. I have a lot of respect for David here. The end, when he asks Andrew to be in the present as a kind of a longing interaction with our father, summarises what this conversation was all about. Needless to say, Andrew has an impressive personality. The drive, rhe focus... Man, this was great! Thanks, David! ❤
Thanks for the kind comment. Glad you enjoyed it!
@@sutcliffedavid u should talk to gandhi next, he definitely has more to say about jail time and certainly he won't repeat every sentence 3 times at minimum...i hate to think it is a scripted session or a done deal, well not exactly but in general, because I didn't see much of a challenge...idk is because u wasn't good enough or he was good enough...but that doesn't mean I don't like it, I still learn so much and I'm agreeing with so many point he makes...but u shouldn't go easy on him especially when he portray himself as that brutal(thinker, etc) cuz he's gonna influence so many people and u only have one chances to expose such a key characters...maybe next time talk about these:
anomaly 1: prescripting for those he love while himself live like a hollywood superstar and in conjunction with that lvl of thinking...is he really knows "the best"? then why he smoking big tobacco and having 40 supercar?...no that lvl of thinking in not brutal, is just simply "immature dreamer" or "irresponsible achiever" or in short"kids behavior".
anomaly 2: Fly to Sweden or Switzerland for a nightclub in day 1 of Corona is not bravery is just pure dumbness and selfishness...it means u don't care for anything else in the most important times...that's is the reason why pandemic takes so long...i wish he fly to open a company or just f buy some stuff from the supermarket...but a "nightclub"?
anomaly 3: being Muslim and having tattoo..well he converted to Islam only by "name"...nothing more!
anomaly 4: being Muslim and his relationship with women's...the way he talk about them is like he owning them...at some place he talks about, if he having two wife...why do you even have to give such an example?...that lvl of thinking is for Arabian tribes in 1000y ago or rairly now...or at another place he say I can or I have been with most beautiful girls and "Misinterpret" that as "God's reward" or something like that...Jesus Christ the amount of self delusion...
5: Asking about his charges and how true or false they r...
6: he doesn't want to lose or die because of his responsibilities lol I wonder what he thought we were doing before he was born...then he approve the role of "luck" in this "GAME"...because he knows very well there is no insurance in this world even if u r the strongest.
7: winning or being a winner doesn't necessarily bring arrogant and there r so many example for it...but why he doesn't operate that way?!
@@useruser6240 As a therapist it is not about just challenging and confronting someone. You need to get to know them first, you need to build trust. Also it's not about putting him on trial - you want your "patient" to get better, therefore you want to help, not destruct.
@@wonderlust_ I agree but I don't think we see part 2 for this in the future but even if we see I don't think this kind of personality put down his sword and embrace a mistake or hell embrace something, I'm not saying it's impossible but if being realistic about it, it is nearly impossible...when the number of success goes high not everybody is brave enough to talk about loses...opposite, they start cover up every loss with their victory or maybe even manipulate themselves to the point that they start dividing themselves from the universe.
@@useruser6240 Totally agree. You could have clearly seen that in the end the therapist managed to bring him exactly to the point he wanted, then Tate just instantly shook the hand and stopped the interview...
Part 2 is not gonna happen I bet...
Andrew is very intellectual and is very much committed to his “mental model”. I wonder if that is puts him in his own matrix. A matrix that won’t allow feelings to have any space, only definitions.
I hope they have another chat. This sounded like a first therapy chat where he came in trying to be the therapist - which might be counter productive in a lot of ways.
Thanks Andrew and the therapist for a very insightful interaction.
That was the most astonishing interview/talk session I've seen with Andrew. This brings a new side of Andrew to light in some ways, which we couldn't fully comprehend before.
David did an amazing and outstanding job by conducting that interview. I think with more sessions, David might gain a very good grasp of how Andrew operates and might even learn more about it himself than what's shown in this video. Throughout the video, we could see "potential hints" on why Andrew thinks the way he does, but he hasn't fully acknowledged it yet, and David is slowly getting there.
I'm not saying Andrew is crazy, but it's also clear that he is not completely at peace with himself.
He's not at peace with himself but I feel like that's why he is the successful person today. If he was always at peace or "happy" then he wouldn't feel that drive to be a successful and highly valued man. Hence why he is an extra cautious and calculated risk person. Basically, Andrew loves war, and war is what gives him purpose in life.
@@Zizotron maybe he values the wrong kind of success. If money, women and cars dont bring you peace, then what is the point?
@@dan4992This doesn't bring happiness to anyone, there is no point you can stop at with external motivation like this. Nothing from the outside can fill the hole inside.
@@DamianSzajnowski exactly, but people can go their whole lives not realising this
From the perspective of a Christian (this is just giving my personal opinion, not attempting to convince anyone of anything), this is why the same passion and devotion to excellence Andrew lives outwardly towards mostly physical ends, is better fully directed towards service to God - wherein the ultimate aim of life is fulfilled. The internal and external in perfect harmony, finite and infinite, temporary and eternal, to and for the glory of the divine origin and authority over all things - God.
10 mins in I’m noticing Andrew smiles when he is asked a question that makes him feel uncomfortable. He’s programmed to see painful feelings as wrong and unhelpful.
Yes mask slipping
@@tarmarajohnson2659what mask do you see him wearing?
@@natashasaysIf you had real discernment it would be obvious.
@@jessp8238 Be nice.
@@tarmarajohnson2659assuming it’s “mask slipping” is very arrogant it could be someone of high level intelligence like this wonderful therapist asked him a challenging question and he finds joy in answering it assuming is for the less intelligent people should keep it to yourself 😅
You can see the total change in body language when he’s present. The last 10 minutes shows it. I can definitely relate, and it definitely feels exciting to think about the future and all the other stuff going on, but it’s relaxing to be present.
I love how it took Andrew Tate doing therapy to get a lot of men to believe in it haha. As someone whose been in therapy for various things since a young age it’s been quite frustrating hearing a lot of men simply deny it’s efficacy, I don’t like the fact that it took a man like Tate to convince a lot of people that it works but if that’s what gets young men to realise emotions and sensitivity aren’t a detriment to masculinity then I’m all for it.
been to therapy since i was 7 for adhd and depression. i definetly dont believe in the efficacy of therapy. i believe in weed and shrooms though
@@jari948 I’m sorry to hear it hasn’t worked for you my friend, psychedelics can definitely be a good source of healing tbf but chances are you haven’t had the greatest practitioner. I do realise that it’s not for everyone though, but as a whole it’s a very effective method of treating mental disorders
@@jari948how does weed help? I thought it was a depressant?
@@jari948i've come to think it's like any profession, some work and some are just shit.
Matt most therapists are so stupid and me watching this will not change my outlook on most therapists . unless I get one like this then I don’t mind
tate saying he was very busy in jail is one of my favorite things ever
The last part is what it is all about. Andrew controls and hypnotizes you with his eloquence. In the last part he was losing the control, or David was taking it very skillful.
This was a great conversation, a masterpiece by David. Andrew's intelligence, eloquence and witt make it hard for the average person (and average is a huge part of the equation, including me) to pinpoint what is off. Because you feel something is off! Impressive how David stays present and alert.
Can't wait for them to pick this up again and go deeper. Maybe even best offline (albeit sad to not witness it)
Two men getting intimate in private that’s like men’s worst fear sadly 😢
To everyone who thinks the therapist is trying to make andrew “weak” or whatever didn’t really pay attention. The last 60 seconds really expose what looks like a “perfect iron mindset”. He’s a master at suppressing or channeling emotion and talking/rationalising, which has worked in a way, but like David said, there’s more layers to life. I like tate and he has impacted my life in a positive way but NOBODY is perfect, we can all improve in some way. And i feel like if andrew opens up a bit more, he will 100% get to the next level of his potential for himself and for the world. I really hope this happens again because it will make the world a better place.
well said
Afraid if you rest, let your guard now, you are at your most vulnerable. Sleeping, you more than likely most vulnerable
Narcs will never allow time to ‘ open up ‘ & acknowledge the layers . His arrogance, inflated sense of importance & eternal self righteousness will be his driving force thru’out his vainglorious life . A younger orange man but on even greater hyper steroids of ego . Tragic
Why he wants to talk to you? Because he’s a narcissist. He can talk hours and hours about himself, so this is a gift for him. He loves it.
Well done, therapist. Well done.
Wow, these last minutes were such a contrast to his usual presence. The entire time I was so nervous listening him talk and talk. It literally made me feel attacked by his thoughts but the last couple of minutes did show me that he is just another real human being. His reaction to the last expierence he had in this therapeutic talk-session were the signs of a person understanding something they could not fathom before.
i think you should drop your ego and deeply listen to tates work from the beginning to the end. he might appear like he is putting on a layer of defense when talking, but if you analyse the things he says, hes right.
To be fair, he jumped multiple classes which is a near impossible feat short of winning the lottery. You can't be present when you can only focus on the future. Maybe he can take his foot off the gas pedal now that he's set.
You are just watching a guy whose template for human interaction was with a very intelligent father who connected through rationality and logic. So that is exactly what Tate is doing, trying to connect through rationality and logic. That Tate probably finds 99.9% of interactions deeply disappointing because the other person doesn't get him (because their brain doesn't work like that).... it very tragic actually.
What a fascinating human. So in control that he's controlling the controller who controls the controller. And he's not afraid that he's afraid, even though he's afraid. The poor man's ego structure has crushed any semblance of tenderness or vulnerability, but only because at some point his tenderness and vulnerability were so intolerable he had to stuff his humanity in a small bag and kick it to death. I feel for him. The will power is impressive, but also pretty sad.
bro who are you? 🤣 you surely can write 💯
Surely @@fizzfox8886
Andrew should have a 3 hour session with Jordan Peterson.... Then ,,top G,, would grow 2 sizes. But also sound fairly unintelligent to be honest. Even with his wordsmithing...😅
Yeah, that sums it up pretty well. Impressive, but sad.
@@bjrnbrndelsbo4841 "top G" isn't used to spending time with legit psychiatrists, who can't be bought with magnetism and wordsmithing. I think you're right, some time with Peterson would be very interesting.
I teach psychology at my local university and every time we touch the subject of sociopaths I show my students Andrew Tate videos..
😂😂😂 I think he is a total sociopath too! He is really egocentric. The world only is about himself.
@@sdssdfsdsww2253 exactly. Because he contradicts himself in the way he speaks and actually lives his life. I like him in a way because he can be funny 😂 but at the end he is a hypocrite.
The funny thing is you are probably waking them up with his videos.
He is really living rent free in your head isn't he? I smell jealousy coming from you.
😂😂 this is perfect here lol he says he is delusional and that he doesn’t feel any emotions
Andrew has charisma but is clearly held back by his own unresolved trauma. Charming but potentially abusive and dangerous. His ideas of love requiring authority and discipling people were very telling. Great interview. Very insightful. I wish David had talked more...seemed like Andrew took an inordinate amount of time.
Yes, surprisingly doc didn’t give u a like , so I will
Him and Jordan Peterson aren’t so different. Control, order, discipline. Men made by trauma seeking for constant control as a response to the chaos of their lives. The fact they become so popular should show the state of our world.
@@abuDA-bt6ei what aobut the balance here though, finding the golden nuggets within tates or peterson's thoughts and then taking those and applying whatever is the "healthy" mindset you think may be.
Thank you David....your wisdom is truly a gift. You a true artist...I hope Andrew appreciates what you doing for him.
The way Secret Pathway To Triumph dives into the concept of abundance is mind-blowing. Secret Pathway To Triumph tips are pure gold, and I wish more people knew about them.
It's a good thing my dad wasn't around enough to give me daddy issues.
This guy is a wordsmith and the constant contradictions the unfold I wish he himself would see. He doesn’t want to admit he’s learning in the moment because he has to be the ultimate powerful being that is influential in the world. His deepest fear is actually being humble and it’s funny it’s like when people actually meet him he’s such a nice guy, throws a little charming sparkle smile. So many masks lol
So you are saying all he did was lie in the video? Because that is what you are implying
he cannot lie if he himself doesn't see the contradictions. In his mind he is telling the truth. It take being present and to step out of pure rationalization. Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind... @@turboterps and to him it was a battle of wits and rationalizations, nothing can take him down, that is his stance, he came in there as VS... everything is war with him. And so his followers even take sides and battle commenters.
Dude, you just explained exactly how i saw whole interview. The whole i can't be sad, weak, vulnerable was just so unreal.. @@geode_rocks
The Delusion is strong!
I really look forward to a next round!
And I love to see Andrew staying longer times in wordless presence with David.
My assumption is that he couldn't stay in it longer than than he did because it began touching something deeper - perhaps something that could make him cry - possibly an unconscious longing for his father's presence - but he wouldn't allow himself to cry... (Especially on camera) As in his world view it would mean that he is weak, emotional and perhaps not effective.
But I don't think that is the case. I think he would come out even "stronger" if he has the courage to embrace this part of himself and even more if he dared to show it to others.
Not directly stronger in a sense of competition, but stronger in a sense of love & compassion, that would allow him to connect, trust and find deeper intimacy with the world and the people around him.
I think this would allow him to let go the desire to compete once in a while, which would nourish him, and grant him the wisdom to better distinguish which battles are really worth fighting for and to better see which ones could be resolved without a fight, so in the end - indirectly - I think it would make him more effective.
Bless you all :)
Great job, David - I can't imagine the amount of presence and love it took to conduct this session. The world needs strong presence and spirits such as yourself =)
Seriously great interview/podcast. Never seen someone able to stump Andrew before and actually make him think.
David, that was both an interesting and equally challenging interview. I've dated individuals (within our 20s & 30s) very much like Andrew Tate in the sense that they were intelligent, highly logical, financially successful, tough and "cautious & calculative" in one hand, but in the other hand were very angry, loud, demanding, inflexible, and their "cautious & calculative" were nothing more than fear & pain. Listening to Andrew brought me back to those relationship experiences which in itself were living nightmares.
Nevertheless the interview was insightful and at the very least, was a reminder of all the red flags I've experienced in the past. It's also sad to see someone try so incredibly hard to analyse & articulate life through the mind without the heart. Like many people have commented, it's obvious that he has walls up. You did a good job being patient with him, asking him great questions and directing him to an alternative perspective. Well done!
I think it would be wonderful to interview Andrew in 10 years or even 20 years to see the evolution to his perception of vulnerability.
Amazing comment.
@@vasmar1061Exactly, what a great comment!
Very well said
@@iAmLaurenkillian the more the pain, the more the defence - walls .
Life is not easy I understand the "tough guys ". They are usually the most vulnerabe and sweet inside.
Shit comment
"Doesn't it feel good to feel another man" 2:12:01 xD quote of the year.
David is fantastic at being on the other side of the table. Tate very rarely gets a full thought out in interview.
Right. Nice to not have an emotional/naive/ignorant person cutting him off
And if you pay attention he gets more than full thoughts out in this video because he interrupts the therapist every time that the therapist was trying to explain to him how his mindset is probably not the best way to approach certain problems 🤦🏻
@@lilrae1458 it’s a therapy session, the point is to let Tate open up and talk as much as possible..
@@Hunterartman13 sure but it's very telling when Tate won't listen to him the second he tries to tell Tate something useful 🤣
It’s even very clear from the way Andrew talks that be holds a lot of anger. And usually behind anger, is sadness. I see it time and time again with clients. Of course he won’t allow himself to ‘be’ sad. As he says he might feel it a little but he won’t allow himself to be it, or feel it too much, because for him that means losing power. His anger is his power. It’s his strategy for survival and makes complete sense given what he shared. I would love to see him work with a somatic therapist as well as a psycho therapist and see what his body brings up.
I love how the most replayed part is when it ends.
Crying is not necessarily babiness, though it is. Crying is a symptom of an adult having the inability to understand why the problem happened to them and how to fix it. The emotion is so deep and not having answers makes the wallow as a solution and then they find that wallowing is quicksand.
Great navigation David, the contradictions are so layered and nuanced. Says depression is not real, but bad feelings are real and he learns to embrace them. He desires to be in complete control, but says God wills if he does or doesn't experience things. Says the matrix is real, but denies being a victim of that system. I'm sure there are far more I missed.
You missed logic my man... sorry to say it... these are not contradictions 😂 you can feel bad but keep moving, that means you arent depressed...the others you said are errors as evident this one
Secret Pathway To Triumph is so unique. I can’t believe I hadn’t heard about it sooner. It’s amazing how life-changing this can be.
He says "I don't believe in depression and if I don't believe I won't catch it", believing and knowing are two differentiated notions owing to science.
If not wanting anything makes the ultimate man, Mr. Tate should like to meet me.
"That's a very good question... Questions I've never been asked before." And THAT is why therapy can be a great thing. There are questions you will never ask yourself.
19:48 THE MINDSET
But he did not need to ask himself that question. In no way will that help him. Otherwise he would've asked himself that question.
Your average therapist is gonna prescribe you happy pills the second you say you have any kind of feelings of anxiety or depression. It’s a cope fest designed to mask your feelings rather than resolve them. Therapy is for weak people who can’t handle their feelings.
But his ability to always turn the hard question to benefit him and his world view and answer in a way where he always circle back exactly to assured his point is amazing.
Take shrooms
The ending 2 minutes was utterly fascinating. When David says “just be present… children long for a deeper connection with their father,” Andrew’s instant reaction is to ask, “but what would we talk about?” We see from this that Andrew has never really had a real present moment or deeper connection with his father and it’s resulted in the coping method of rationalizing EVERYTHING, which has worked extremely effectively, but has also produced an almost a constant state of delusion. He’s gotten so good at it from a young age that he’s been able to build such a firm world view.
bro said a whole lotta nothin
@@oatsey1345maybe watch it again when you graduate from the 6th grade and you’ll get more from it than “that’s gay”
clearly you're stuck in that closet @@oatsey1345
@@oatsey1345 that is not gay
@@oatsey1345 “fruity” “”ghey”, must be middle school. Original comment got it right
It was great how the therapist held him and guided the conversation so that it didn't get out of hand. I've never seen so much armor around a person. Good conversation.
So much armor
Ur small
ironically i feel this is the most inspirational Andrew has ever been, when he deeply lays out in detail the mental model in which he uses to see the world. i think andrew should just do podcasts with smart people who keep stretching his thinking and mental models
Agreed! This is also my favourite podcast Andrew has ever done. I had Sneako on my podcast 3 months ago and I’m working towards getting the Tate brothers on next!
@@MrChaosiyou're pathetic
They say this under every video of him.
Ive never seen someone so expertly condition himself not to admit any vulnerability while at the same time not realizing that his constant proclamations of his own greatness and exaggerated self assurance gives off vibes of deep deep insecurity.
@@MrChaosi that and he may talk to people that stretch his mind, but his mind is set - do and say whatever panders to the base fans he parasites off of through his multilevel marketing (ponzi) scheme.
Secret Pathway To Triumph blew my mind. I’ve shared them with friends, and they’re all amazed at the shifts in their mindset.
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I can’t emphasize this enough, this is a damn MASTERCLASS of listening to someone and drawing things out that they don’t consciously think about. One of the coolest discussions from Tate and the Therapist.
tate? can u give an example?
@@dgbd9030Did you and I watch the same video?
@@barakaobama4017 i didnt watch the vid i went straight comments
im not a tate fanboy nor a hater i just wanted exampels
Listening to Tates responses is also a master class on avoidence 🤦🏻🤣
@@lilrae1458ur response is a masterclass of spelling
Avoidance *
I agree with this man, especially when it comes to refusing to be a victim, and grateful to our parents instead of looking for what was missing.. from experience those choices make u keep going if not you will never be able to go forward ( trust me have been there) ❤
This is not a realistic mindset to have. He’s still human and prone to error. This was a full on display of narcissism.
imagine being so sulky@@garydomaz1849
@@garydomaz1849 I disagree, error is okay but being a victim wont get you were you want to be. Sure he might sound narcisisstic but theres a little narcissim thats required to achieve what you to. I hope you can see the good in his points. i wish you the best in life
@@garydomaz1849 not to have, more like try to have because yes this is too perfect and trying to be perfect will make you the closest to it
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
I cried at the end of this as he was opening him up. And then Tate terminated, as soon as he got close, Tate terminated it. If he could have just stayed silent, for a few more minutes... he might have felt presence. Truly, he has never experienced it and has built his whole persona and life around earning his "father's love".
Seems like it worked for him.
To be a soldier must contain composure at ease though life is complicated it’s only what you make it to be. - Tupac Shakur
The strong survive and strive through life as warriors
@@MotivationAllAccess - Has it? It certainly doesn't appear like it has.
He lives in a perpetual state of delusion. Fighting self made wars in his head that need not be fought. He has no sense of life or wonder. Just a false bravado to conceal his vulnerability, which he’s been conditioned to believe is something to be ashamed of. He was definitely hurt growing up
@@kend7597 He is a multi-millionaire (perhaps a billionaire) with lots of followers, offspring and a confident man, we are all his fans. Perhaps he doesn't even know your name and might never know, how dare you call him delusional?
You equally say he was hurt growing up, what have you to show for your perfect life without hurt. I see a honest man with great potential, the fact that you don't understand this only shows where you are.
Like him, i don't like anybody to open me up to depression and if i can navigate all the negative emotions and be that successful and reject depression then it is worth a try
when he says "these are questions I've never been asked before" is the first time I genuinely felt compassion for this man.
Jesus loves yall, died for us, and rose again! Jesus calls for all of us to repent! He's coming back!
@@highestpeeqs9532 But it still takes magic tricks for you to realize that I've been here for quite a while already.
@@highestpeeqs9532 Ok good
Yep very good. Even better than your mother going to a therapist @@SentinelAerospaceOfficial
@@highestpeeqs9532 how is this relevant?
1:40:28 😂😂 therapist - " stop thinking"
Andrew -" i cant stop thinking "
Therapist-"you can stop thinking, if you cant stop thinking, you dont have control over your mind
Andrew - alright i cant have that💭 - " alright cool I've stop thinking but"...😂
Absolutely the best and most telling part of the interview. Amazing.
He Could Probably Benefit From A Few .@JLPtalk vids, heh heh
@@iamrambo99 😄😄 Absolutely
Summary of Andrew's advice all is fair in light and in darkness, he is a balance of both and the world is uncomfortable of becoming like him
And And
The last few minutes are so interesting. Asking Andrew to soften, be present, not think or feel it necessary to talk, was very fascinating to witness. I noticed he decided to end the meeting there. Maybe that was too much for now. When we have deep fears of intimacy and vulnerability, it can be very hard to stay truly present with the person encouraging you to feel that. I hope Andrew continues speaking with you, David. If this at all encouraged Andrew's self-reflection, or helped him to notice how useful therapy may be (and he actually goes), that'd be phenomenal.
It's nice to see Andrew with people who can bring full context out of him.
Indeed
very good comment , because all of his points are taken out of context
But let's not forget he's a rapist and sex trafficker
@@slickblowfishtbh he makes a lot of bad points
no not all lol some but his comments are very harmful to a lot of people.@@slickblowfish
Good example of how he denies his own childlike neediness in order to preserve the heroic image of his own father, and thus also the grandiosity of being the son of such a father. He lives his entire life in narcissistic overcompensation (women, prostitution, watches, cars, exploitation, etc.) and has thereby influenced an entire generation, especially men. The denial arguments he gives as to why his father didn't have time for him are so, so sad. And he shouldn't feel anger towards his father anyway, because then he would have to feel his pain and suffering...he would then hold the father responsible...and de-idealize him. Then it would turn out that it wasn't a successful, super important, heroic father who had no time for his son, but simply an incompetent father. He had to earn recognition and appreciation, he had to play chess. That is, it didn't matter what the son wanted, he always had to ingratiate himself to be seen. "I have to EARN attention. I have to be someone to be loved," I would even go further and say : "I have to be someone in order to exist." In order to survive, he has developed an extremely performance-demanding part that decouples him from his child mode, ensures success and money and thus secures his fragile self-esteem. Unfortunately, he will never be able to experience real and authentic relationships and connections because he will constantly be stuck in his coping mode, which is incredibly uncomfortable to endure.
I love when Andrew turns his head to the left, smile and touche his beard. Every times the therapist got him with emotions his body language change even tho he doesn’t want to show that emotional weakness.
Is it weakness
Yes. Poker players call it a "tell," and use it to destroy you.
"weakness"
@tomhaden2460 Yes because Poker is an accurate reflection of everyday life
@weirdo70615702 it's more accurate than you have ever been
"The more you seek the uncomfortable, the more you will become comfortable." - Seneca
This is by far the most important interaction Andrew has ever done in the podcast space. They need to do this again!
Who is gonna believe in someone as delusional as he is, this guy says he shapes his reality at his will 😂 so when he says, no I didn't do it, does it have any worth? 😂
@@pabloduque579 perhaps he is delusional, but look at his achievement, he is successful because of how he shaped his reality. so does it have any worth? I'd say yes.
@@willyemful well, there is many many successful people who are horrible human beings, I'm not saying he is, because no evidence, but being financially successful does not mean he then must be a good person. Also, delusion is a mental health condition which has to be treated with psychotherapy and medicine, he has delusions of grandiosity (obviously). He might take advantage of his people person skills to do businesses, and convince people because he is smart, so he makes money out of that, but that does not mean he is trustworthy. People like that can lie to you in your face, without hesitation and with a straight face, just because of their convenience, with zero accountability for how that could affect other ones.
So, can you trust him? hmm I personally wouldnt.
1000% agree
@@pabloduque579 Everybody shapes their reality through the concepts they know themselves (and their 'worlds') of.
He is right, if you don't have a 'depression' as a concept, you can't 'catch' depression.
Not saying I agree with everything Tate says, or even if I like the guy (we're all just consciousness behind the masks); but he's correct.
All is Mind.
This was great! I think he didn’t want to admit any neglect from his dad cus that would show he was “abandoned” which = weakness…
The product of asking Andrew insightful, honest, respectful, non-accusatory, genuine, and appropriate questions. fantastic interview.
It's hard to find when there are so many long form videos of him describing, in detail, how he trafficked women and scammed men.... God bless this sacred space where we can see the Andrew Tate we want to see.
@@vanessadisco6643 Sorry for your mental state.
@@MustaliS550 good one
@@vanessadisco6643yeah but let this be a female who abuse women , you will sing another tune, but look at you giving excuses cause it a man claiming Alpha
@wallisvictor9688 so your issue isn't that he is a self admitted sex trafficker who scammed men and women... it's that you think people wouldn't care as much if it was a woman... I guess we'll have to wait and see if a woman ever heads up a sex trafficking organization. Until then.. crime is a crime, and both men and women go to jail for their crimes.
As a therapist i have to say, David does an incredible job here. You can tell, that he really appreciates the conversation although it is absolutely exhausting for him i believe. He asks incredibly good questions and he finds a way to like Andrew as every good therapist should. Thank you David.
What do you find so exhausting about this though..his mindset is pretty rational and formidable all in all.. I think the people that are his opposition are the exhausting ones
@@TheGuym619 He is so self centered and arrogant and pretentious for one... great manipulater thou
@@TheGuym619 The exhausting aspect is not his rationality, but rather his avoidance when it comes to being approachable and having an exchange on equal terms. Conversations with him always have to follow his rules and he avoids any invitation to get emotionally involved in a topic. That makes it exhausting for a therapist sometimes. I felt this way during these types of conversations, of course I can't speak for David.
It's because Andrew won't change and he is especially aware of this while Andrew is in front of his Audience who have bought into his brand / image. I can assure you David has come across far more complicated "challenges" with clients. This is pretty plain to see that Andrew is just delusional but it serves him superficially. He won that prize. As a therapist you want your client to have a breakthrough therefore you are empathetic and want the best for them (live a mentally healthy life). To the average joe that isn't delusional we just find Andrew repulsive.@@ToniGromann
@bartbenton8269 who cares. Congratulations average Joe. You want a cookie?
1:10 what's useful is more important than what's true
I don't believe in anything that takes power from me
3:00 analyse why you hold the believes you do, where it came from, who tried to teach you that,
what were their intentions for you
4:30 his perspective on depression
6:00 dealing with uncertainty in jail
8:30 using anger as a positive tool
11:00 accountability
12:15 unresolved fear
15:00 fixing your own mind
15:45 which mindset do I need, anything deviating me from that needs to be addressed
17:10 fear shouldn't guide your actions. Use negative emotions to your benefit. The flavour of life is pain. Eat all of it. Enjoy bad things
21:15 use delusion to your advantage if it gives you the best chance of winning
22:53 don't be a coward. Don't be afraid of emotions, anxiety, depression or any negative feeling
23:55 what tate fears
24:06 your emotions shouldn't affect your productivity
24:20 how he is making sense of what happened to him
100% accountability
27:00 making a courageous choice in the face of fear and emerging stronger
37:00 not caring about people negative slander or perception of him. Doesn't bother him cause it's not true
39:30 is it painful when people misrepresent
what you say, project things on you or judge you incorrectly. It doesn't bother him because those people are already paying the price for their ignorance
40:15 your either at war with your brain or at war with them
If you're not what they are saying, don't let it bother you. They are fat trolls and losers and you should beat them in every human metric possible
41:53 don't feel pain when people say false and hurtful things about you, because anybody who will believe that has and will continue to pay the price because of their world view, lack of critical thinking, love of negativity I, habit of gossiping and speaking of things they do not know about in detail
43:40 weaponised virtue and resentment
44:00 they can't call me stupid, unsuccessful, fat, ugly, not charming or not charismatic so they weapon a virtue
47:45 emotional vulnerability. Tate and why that didn't get sympathy from him
49:59 don't fail in any scenario
50:55 how he handled jail. What choice do I have
1:02:00 what he thinks his responsibility is to god, his family and himself
1:02:39 what he wakes up thinking everyday
1:03:38 how he handled jail
1:04:45 with the capability to become anything you want and all the unlimited options and a greatly capable body and mind given by God, how do you find time to be sad
1:05:10 as a man anything that is inside your mind that doesn't allow you to be competitive should be erased
1:10:50 the power source felt through your last name, your ancestors generations, the bloodline
1:17:30 emotional energy and buckets - feel the energy and decide which emotion to put it in
1:20:30 death and rebirth-does god want to break him so he comes back stronger with a wealth of knowledge
1:26:45 you have to perform. Don't let things steal your focus, even if you have to rationalise, say it any way convincing to yourself to install it in your brain that allows you to compete
1:28:48 yes, thank you, what ever comes (acceptance & gratitude)
1:30:00 the moral arch of the universe bends towards truth and justice in the end
1:30:40 coward point,my only fear is me knowing I am a coward, really liked the point, (and even just the idea of me being the coward would burn the world down)
The sheer thought of weakness enrages me
I am not that weak guy
1:33:48 how he would approach going back to jail mentally
1:35:10 what he leamt about himself in jail
1:37:20 nightmares after jail and dealing with it He already analysed worst case scenario and followed the plan
1:38:10 putting so much importance on how you feel as a man, makes you less competitive
1:38:20 presence segment
1:42:20 what he values over presence
1:44:20 his father not being around as a kid not bothering him
David actually managed to make Andrew like therapy. He said at the end that he wants to talk to you again. Impressive. Great conversation you guys had, it's a breath of fresh air from all the other Tate interviews that sometimes feel more strategic. Well done
so was it a conversation or a theraapy sesion ? andew allways said that you get your therpy fro talknig to people =)) i allways felt the same lel
@@geog26depends on the person. People who actively listen and understand and can provide intellectual feedback can be therapy
@@geog26 I can tell you it was definitely a therapy session. I had the same parenting from my parents and David made SO MANY things clear to me and i never felt that relief before. It felt like potion of peacefulness dropped over my head without him even directly talking to me. I might even consider seeking therapy. I am very successful academically, and i have similar world views with tate but this video was a different world to me
Good therapy IS a conversation..it's just one with someone who understands pain, and knows how to help you grow by not avoiding pain anymore.@@geog26
@@geog26I think it was a therapy session framed as a conversation so that it could make Andrew feel comfortable
Incredibly good podcast, it's genuinely rare we see interviewers try to humanise Andrew or anyone else in this circle without having some deeper agenda. I truly enjoyed seeing you pick his brain and make him think a little harder. Tate is human at the end of the day, and the listening skills you showed in your responses helped bring that humanity to life. I haven't seen part one yet, but I'll definitely do it now. God bless you
It was monologue.
Andrew dehumanized himself. Nobody has a hidden agenda against this boy
It's so heartwarming to see a person with strong protective mechanisms begin to open up. It's like witnessing the blooming of a beautiful flower with thorns.
What’s most interesting is that the more he shows his vulnerability, the more you see the real human beneath, with genuine emotions. This creates a space where you truly start to feel empathy for him. Thank you, Andrew, for allowing us to see this side of your personality.
the way this therapist looks at the camera whenever he reaches a little breakthrough without Andrew noticing says it all. He's good
he's seeking attention from the audience, massive red flag, but then again I've been brain raped by a therapist who read his notes about me to a third party against my will so my trust is at zero, especially since I was in therapy for massive adoption-related trust issues.
The therapist is brilliant, he knows what he is doing, everything is well set: the little gestures, the voice, the words, it's incredible. He does alot without Andrew noticing it right away. That was not an interview or something, that was a real therapy session. I'm not sure A. Tate understood that.
yea and Tate has constructed a fucking inner castle-maze so nobody can attack or penetrate it, and this therapist got close a bunch of time
he’s not a real therapist at all lol.
@@katelynmcroberts5373 I'm sure someone who isn't a therapist would have a good opinion on if someone is a therapist or not, definitely very smart. 👍
Andrew is handling the conversation like a chess board, trying to always give the right answer and avoiding being cornered.
He is reacting like an edgy college boy ( the age in which he is stuck for eternity, ever since he was joining big brother to become known, celebrity and thrive for attention).
The therapist is enjoying how many blind spots this dude has, the primary of which he considers himself "succesful" when his peaks of human contribution is playing in big brother, getting some "world champ kick box titles" in one of 320 different kick -box league ( which are all useless if the name of the league is not K1 or glory), and creating an online pimp web camera.....
Dude you did not invent anything, you did not create a groundbreaking company, you left for one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in europe, you did not even learn the language ( hyperintelligence), you pimped masses of poor eastern european girls to become rich and now after investing this wealth you act like Soros.
It’s out in the open. It’s definitely not a safe space.
Great opening, middle and then end game! Top G 100%
I've learnt from this interview that Andrew is a realist. He is not deceitful in his responses and he is spiritually generous.
Ego fully at play. Couldn't agree more with your comment.
Don’t mind the guy but quite a few points in this video you can tell he was completely full of shit to maintain the “facade”
If you guys notice at the end. He actually got him. He got him to open up. And as soon as he felt vulnerability, he wanted to stop, hence he went for the handshake.
Even that small interaction at the end was all worth it in my opinion. He really felt himself in the end and saw fear and sadness, vulnerability and everything he went through. I believe that if they went on with the conversation 5 more mins he would break or something.
That’s was the best part the way the therapist was able to snap him back into presence just genius
Weird isn't it? For a guy who said that he doesn't let emotion affect what he does, that's exactly what happened in the end
What a grand and electrifying ignorance you have
he showed vulnerability once and you think he would break in 5 more mins cause of that?
@@Jenkai what's the problem with breaking ?
Never seen somebody pick andrew’s brain with this level of respect with a good genuine conversation going back-and-forth props to your podcast. I’ll be watching more no disrespect just a conversation what I like to see.
That's what therapists do. They will 100% supportively help you and understand you or guide you.
Agreed, it made me understand Andrew as a person a bit more. He's very intelligent just a bit ignorant, he should talk to more people like this.
@@femmebridal6710 Orrrrrrr they try to tell more about yourself that only you could know, but convince you that they can know as well.
It still amazes me how many people equates wealth with wisdom. Andrew is one confused individual.
you're the confused one here.
Man, I think obi wan kenobi was great at listening Andrew without trying to argue even he know's about the harsh ideas that keep him protected from facing deep emotions from childhood. He is wise enough to understand how the conversation is being controlled but capable of generating reflection without engaging in a fight.
"I refuse to be a broken man. It's disrespectful, to anybody who ever died or tried hard for me to be raised, for me to emerge from this difficulty as a broken person."
Tate has words to live by whether you like or not.
@@Firas-460 I'd do that too. Can't stop rationalizing and don't see what's wrong with that.
@@Firas-460 we had a glimpse of the real Andrew right at the end before he shut it down. You see the facial and physical expression of the vulnerable lad. It likely felt both hypnotically terrifying and comforting for him in that moment.
I do hope they both continue to meet. As much as I’d love to see it on camera, I respect Andrew if he wants to do this work in privacy.
As an analyst this interview left me buzzing. It will be discussed by many in the field for sure.
keep simping
what does that have to do with the person? Hitler had more inspiring words to live by. surface level thinking dude
@@Firas-460everybody has coping mechanisms in real life. Its literally part of life. IDC how much money you have or what you believe in. Everybody copes. You could simply cope from losing a loved one.
Some of the richest people in the world are very present. They take breaks, lay on a beach, enjoy their families, grow a rare rose, play fetch wirh their dog.... its not about having massive responsibilities of wealth, its about being capable of enjoying life as well
This therapist is amazingly skillful at what he does. He can see right through Andrew but instead of confronting him and say something like "Here because you think like that you're a delusional narcissist" he just plants a seed of thought with non-threatening words like for example 18:50 "he first makes him a very nice compliment almost to melt and disarm him and then just plants a simple "there's a potential for self delusion". He just knows exactly how to communicate with such characters like Andrew.
didn't even notice it but now that you mentioned it wow
You’re also a little delusional, yourself bro
Yes he may be delusional and narcissistic but I wouldn’t consider those qualities to be negative in him. They actually serve him quite well without those two qualities he wouldn’t be in the position that he’s in.
I do not think Andrew is self delusional. I feel he just put things into perspective even though the other person might disagree.
@@thelonesoldier4518That’s pretty much Philosophy in a nutshell. If you have a different take on something that’s not like the usual then all of sudden “Oh he’s weird, he’s like an alien, he’s a dangerous man.” I don’t watch Andrew Tate at all but even I know that words often get misconstrued.
I can say that this therapist was one of the people that has stumped andrew at times and made him think more than other guests. Andrew is a very straightforward guy he knows what hes gonna say and he seems like he already premeditates answers to questions people might ask him and this guy broke the glass of that..which is a very good thing for growth. That is what makes this podcast very good
SO TREUUUU
Definitely!
you took the words out of my mouth
He did prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that the man is completely delusional and irrational at times. And while that can be a strength it makes him susceptible to his own insane ego
honestly it feels like he was just blowing smoke up the therapists ass to be quite honest, there were times where i KNOW Andrew was covering up and masking ANY INKLING of "weakness" or "vulnerablity" and he just gave a fluff fake "doodbro bravado" answer and im 90% sure the therapist could see right thru him and his fake bs answers because he knows he's putting up a front for the camera so the world doesnt see ANY weakness in him, which is understandable BUT it also puts up a shield between him and his supporters, fans, followers, AND the BIG chunk of the fence huggers that are curious about who he is REALLY as a man and then they get these bullshit "im superman!!" answers when a therapist is asking him to be Andrew not THE COBRA...
Man Tate loves to talk. Therapist asked excellent questions and clearly understands how energy works.
This was the most interesting interview I've ever listened to. This really made Andrew seem so much more human than what people make him out to be. David is also SUCH a good interviewer. Loved every minute of it.
Edit: y’all make it seem like I’m agreeing with Andrew. I’m not. It was just an interesting interview. My personality more like the interviewer, and the way he asks questions is so good. So. Go into my comment knowing that I’m by no means an Andrew Tate fan.
you have not watched him abusing women and stealing their money to get rich from web cams then.
very true. im a young man not to the degree of wealth as tate but alot of Quality i can share with tate and its hard when youve become the hero or the protector and you been looked at as a evil person when you’re trying to do good
@@wayne3093not only women. Him and Tristan also manipulated men. He’s an opportunist and a very high performing narcissistic, one that has the ability to charm people
You need to live a little, this was entertainment and that's it.
Then you really buy some bullshit lies , bro here bragged about taking millions from people then said he didn't exploit them because someone else would do it....common bro
I think that third hashtag might need a little tweaking 😂
This was one of the best podcast interviews I've ever watched. Excellent questions were being asked by David and we saw a side of Andrew we never saw before. It really kept me engaged the whole way.
I neve thought I would watch a video over two hours besides a movie lol but it was good
You love rapists? thats cool man. Just stay out of my country, and everything will be cool
Dude interviews himself. So much self-defence without an aggressor just to not show any weakness.
And is tha supposed to be bad
@sauloros4861 ,it's just very revealing. Let's not forget that "TOP G" was running chats with men for his girls. So, in effect Tate was talking dirty to men. Let that sink in. That's hardly masculine. He's definitely overcompensating with his false ego. He was abandoned as a child. So, his narcissistic defenses are not surprising.
his biggest weakness is his fear to fail or feel defeated.
@@iiamyah2423hit the nail on the coffin. His deep fear which is to lose control of a situation and not have control of his environment created such inner conflict, that he has nightmares and inducing fear.
@@Hattiesburgpatriotwe found the customer
Fascinating how Tate's entire body language changes in the last two minutes, no wonder he was so quick to shake hands and end the discussion. Brilliant conversation!
That's why he reached out his hands to end the conversation as well. He was looking side to side and thinking about what to say to keep the upperhand. Brilliant work by the therapist to expose how uneasy Andrew gets if he can't somehow one-up his opponent.
The way his leg keeps shaking at the end, wow!
Jesus loves yall, died for us, and rose again! Jesus calls for all of us to repent! He's coming back!
well in the last two minutes hes literally in a position that I think a good majority might find themselves uncomfortable with. Im not taking sides but the fact that we have casual viewers try to psychoanalyze his body language is wild to me. I might be in the most comfortable position on the couch with my buddies and shake my leg everyonce in a while where I find myself in the present and have to fiddle with something to distract myself. A lot of these actions can be seen literally everywhere, you don't have to be exposed, vulnerable for these actions to show. Honestly I think a wide study would bring intriguing results especially with therapist involvement but overall when you find you have nothing to do, other than during meditating times/mindfulness sessions you would find yourself fiddling or trying to fill that empty space.
@@milkxv it has thankfully nothing to do with psychoanalysis to recognize or talk about body language. Could be anything, but sometimes it is quite obvious it isn't. Usually when a group of people recognize the body expressing some internal emotions, they will come up with a plethora of details they thought was the trigger. But usually that is just rationalizing an empathic response.
I think we all know, body language can be deceiving, but it sometimes is revealing, just as being over protective, is, as someone who does not take sides. Smirk.
For a second I thought the title of the video was Andrew Tate vs The Rapist 😂
"That's true... BUT i also feel like..." it's his thing. Deflecting and trying very hard to always be right by the end of his monologues. In the peak of rationality. Seeing David work around him was amazing. The way David can give a compliment right before dropping "potential for self delusion" is a beautiful way to work with personalities like Tate. The last minutes were so interesting. There's your vulnerability. David is so so good.
I learned early in life that if you are gonna critique someone or point out potential flaws, the best way is always to start with a genuine compliment and then framing your point as a question to them. Atleast if you wanna move them in any other direction than they are going.... I used that technique alot in my past and during a year I actually managed to make my racist coworker change his attitude and start seeing ppl as individuals rather than judging everyone based on the most extreme example he could make up... or rather; he changed his own attitude...
A couple years later he actually thanked me for making him think and being able to let go of alot of anger he carried since being in the afghan war... -Imagine If David ends up changing Tate as a man and makes him realize he doesn't have to be a conartist and predator or even be the best, to succeed in life... That would be fuggin crazy! :D
What that techniques specifically does:
The compliment makes them lower their guards and the question makes them think about IF your point could be true instead of the opposite; An insult would raise their guards and instead of asking a postulate would make them go straight to a counterattack.
A. "I really like the way you are able to articulate your reflections clearly, but could reflection be a defense mechanism?"
B. "well... thats a good point, maybe you are right to some extend..."
as oppposed to
A. "You are really delusional and yoour reflections is a cover for your obvious insecurities and fear."
B. "I don't have any fears because I always win and you will never change that!"
I’m just going home and I’m not going back
I don't think David is working around him. The main agenda behind this conversation is to analyze Tate, therefore, as a response Tate has to explain his point of view. As he said he psycho analyzes himself. He has to have answers to most of his actions. In that case, he always has to include "buts" to ensure he gets the truth across as much as he can. I think everyone who psycho-analyzes themselves will answer just the same.
@@TalesofTwoWorlds1 i constantly psychoanalyze myself and i do the same, just like you said trying to get the complete picture there
He is truly the most insane and delusional Man pretending to be a Man that exist.
Absolute masterclass in challenging a polarizing personality. Only an amazing therapist could pull this off. Bravo
He didn't challenge him whatsoever.
@@onetwo3411elaborate
exactly. He sucked him off more or less., ONE KEY thing to ask him was why he thinks life is a chess game. This zero sum i must win and you must lose thinking paradigm is instilled from his dad obviously. do we need more of these kind of cockroaches?
no wonder he tops it off with brainwashing binary thinking pedophile religion islam.
@@onetwo3411 then you’re weren’t paying close enough attention. I understand how it was confusing though bc his challenges were extremely subtle and always sandwiched between compliments. When you’re dealing with a narcissist the only way you can ever get them to open up is a sort of Trojan horse - you have to hide your challenges among praise.
Control is a trauma response. Avoiding processing negative emotions (or relying on anger) is intellectually bypassing development.
Encouraging apathy in society and not modelling self compassion and humilty is what is causing it
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I really didn't expect to sit down and watch the whole interview in one sitting, but I just couldn't stop. I learned some new things about myself, reaffirmed some other things I believed before, and disagreed with other things. Absolutely fascinating interview, and a fantastic job. I truly hope we get more of this.
i had to take this in doses lol
Definitely, I've never watched an interview before that incited self-reflection within myself.
“Any person capable of angering you becomes your master (…)”
- Epictetus
"We all serve someone"
Over intellectualization and abstraction as cope.
Anger is an evolutionary trait developed to facilitate survival.
It speeds up thought processing, shuts down pain receptors, reduces lateral vision to focus all attention on a single target.
This idea that being able to trigger an emotional reaction in someone is being their master only works when you are able to avoid the consequences of what you unleashed, which is exceedingly common in modern society, unfortunately.
Go to a place with no police, anger a gang member, rationalize that you are the master when they do what they will do.
@@Antiteshmis Anger also has a high potential and tendency to fog rationality, cause impulsive actions, override often necessary thought processing and more.
Calmness gives the same benefits you listed, but you’re able to control them. Determination, goal orientation and seriousness also focuses your attention without having to bridle an emotional reaction like anger.
Your reasoning equates to claiming that alcohol helps your social life, yet simultaneously overlooking the fact that you’re ingesting a poison that your body is eagerly trying to reject, not to mention the possibility of addiction rather than a solution.
Anger being an “evolutionary trait developed to facilitate survival” is an interesting theory, but that’s all it is. Everything is not a evolutionary benefit; there has to be something in the absence of something else; for example, hate or apathy is not an evolutionary trait for not having to deal with the complexity and potential hurt of love or empathy, even if you technically don’t have to deal with it by carrying those traits. Another example; idleness/laziness and/or lack of motivation is not an evolutionary trait to shield you from the potential harm of using your body and/or doing tasks that might drastically outweigh the benefits of laying in bed.
You already put it nicely into words; “Go to a place with no police, *_anger_* a gang member, rationalize that you are the master when they do what they will do”. I find it quite fitting that anger is the choice of emotion for the potential danger in this example, not to mention the emotion that represents the culture in the scenario.
@@whengrapespop5728 "Calmness will give you those same benefits"
No it doesn't, that's why the values are given as differential from the baseline.
Yes alcohol can help your social life by removing inhibitions.
But are you seriously equating alcohol to an inbuilt survival mechanism ? This is effn ridiculous.
My god you are really arguing out of your a$$.
as what I've observed andrew was getting a hit when they're talking about his dad. a father's love should not be conditional. the therapist was right, your just a kid, you're not supposed to to think something like that or to act or to do something to get your fathers attention. and whats great about Andrew is how he think about that situation. he turned the negative into positive and that maybe the reason on how he process or rationalize things. it's hard to say you love someone to a parent who's not present or not doing the role of a parent but he can say it proudly. like he's saying "yes somehow I felt neglected or I was really neglected but thanks for that I was able to build myself. and because of that, I love you." really an amazing individual.
It’s gratitude. Everyone always uses the excuse as their motivation but Tate gives his energy to the best part of people. He’ll clap before he complains.
Those last 2 minutes are IT. He's masking all the pain he feels by words & semantics. If he allows himself to feel the presence of other people, instead of talking through it, he'll be a different person.
I came here to comment that Andrew masks himself well (I see right through him) -- he's built himself up around avoiding anything emotional and defaults to his left brain.
well in the last two minutes hes literally in a position that I think a good majority might find themselves uncomfortable with. Im not taking sides but the fact that we have casual viewers try to psychoanalyze his body language is wild to me. I might be in the most comfortable position on the couch with my buddies and shake my leg everyonce in a while where I find myself in the present and have to fiddle with something to distract myself. A lot of these actions can be seen literally everywhere, you don't have to be exposed, vulnerable for these actions to show. Honestly I think a wide study would bring intriguing results especially with therapist involvement but overall when you find you have nothing to do, other than during meditating times/mindfulness sessions you would find yourself fiddling or trying to fill that empty space.
He likes to convey himself as totally analytical person unmoved by the emotions of others or his own emotions. But he's still human. He talks like someone on the spectrum a higher functioning autistic person. I'm not sure what he has but I believe he has some type of personality disorder. Not that I have anything against people with such a disorder. The way he avoids emotion and describes weakness is not normal or healthy.
@milk8699 I think it's pretty clear. He felt neglected as a kid. Uses hyper rationalizations as a coping mechanism. Kinda sad he passes that same mentality to his kids.
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I know a psychiatrist who would tear appart tate, im not saying he would do it mliciously just he would immediately see behinde his mask, tate is a real smart guy but the problem is the smartestones are the ones who lie the most to themselves and create huge barriers to avoid seeing truth
The handshake at the end was outstanding. The tension from Andrew and the acknowledgment of breakthrough from David was unmistakable. The entire conversation was perfectly wrapped up in that moment. I saw Andrew's vulnerability and it was very inspiring. Well done to both of you!
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@-TimeToChangeSpot on but Andrew taint followers have mong brains and can't process all of those facts.
@-TimeToChange Exactly. Idk what these people are thinking about his vulnerability or sadness or whatever. Dude literally admitted that he wants to be as vulnerable as possible. Yet there was nothing so sad and bad in his vulnerability. The end was a fucking psychic bullshit that felt kinda gay, which andrew seemed to be uncomfortable. "Feel another man" what the heck are you on about.
@-TimeToChangeman we are all humans and therefore we also live on other levels than the rational world. There is not introvert and there is no extrovert, or at least in this case, we all work the same way.
😂 The ending was epic. Andrew just chose to put an end to the interaction as he believed it had just lost any purpose by not being able to analyze and talk anymore. So I felt he thought in a way "Great chat but now you're only wasting my time by asking me to feel your presence. Let's end this bullshit cause I've better things to do" 😂