AI Image Generation Algorithms - Breaking The Rules, Gently

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  • One of the pieces of common advice for using image generation machine learning algorithms is 'don't ask for text output'. Well, that seems to me more like an invitation to try...
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  • @davidfirth
    @davidfirth Рік тому +2712

    I think we'll look back fondly on this early era of ai art generation, with all its weird faults and quirks.

    • @imveryangryitsnotbutter
      @imveryangryitsnotbutter Рік тому +202

      You mean a veritable wasteland of surrealist horror?

    • @owllymannstein7113
      @owllymannstein7113 Рік тому +93

      So are these strange AI generated images basically what you see when you close your eyes?

    • @MysteriumArcanum
      @MysteriumArcanum Рік тому +52

      TBH I wouldn't be surprised if I saw an AI generated eldritch monstrosity in one of your videos

    • @dandiesel9966
      @dandiesel9966 Рік тому +47

      I read this like Salad Fingers was saying it in my head

    • @grafzeppelin4069
      @grafzeppelin4069 Рік тому +13

      Thanks, Bingus.

  • @HattmannenNilsson
    @HattmannenNilsson Рік тому +3520

    Bingus the boosing wockis is one of my favourite fairytale characters.

    • @Stardust420
      @Stardust420 Рік тому +144

      Would be a great album cover

    • @molybdomancer195
      @molybdomancer195 Рік тому +146

      Someone needs to write the book

    • @thomrade
      @thomrade Рік тому

      @@molybdomancer195 chatGPT could write the book

    • @spiralfirst6488
      @spiralfirst6488 Рік тому +103

      My grandfather used to read it to me when I was small.

    • @pookysoh9769
      @pookysoh9769 Рік тому +46

      @@molybdomancer195 I'm on it 👍

  • @Sybil_Detard
    @Sybil_Detard Рік тому +4

    I, too, am subscribed to Simon's channel. I also thought the generated signs seemed like olde English. So cool you got Simon to read them.

  • @dees3179
    @dees3179 Рік тому +2

    So delighted to see the shout out to Simon roper. He is one of my favourite UA-camrs. His brain is a brilliant place.

  • @ElvenSpellmaker
    @ElvenSpellmaker Рік тому +6

    A crossover with Simon and Shrimp, excellent!

  • @KingdomCome811
    @KingdomCome811 Рік тому

    I'm glad to be reminded of Simon roper. Great channel I've not watched in a while, really interesting.

  • @Pyretta
    @Pyretta Рік тому +57

    I think what impresses me the most is your ability to pronounce these fake ai words!

  • @johnlittle8975
    @johnlittle8975 Рік тому +1

    The last bit by Simon sounded like the Words of Unmaking from the movie Excalibur. Fitting I suppose.

  • @overlordnat
    @overlordnat Рік тому

    Brilliant! Came here via a link in the comments section to a Simon Roper vid and glad I did.

  • @iZetto1
    @iZetto1 Рік тому +3

    Here is a poem Bing AI wrote about Bingus the Boosing Wockis:
    Bingus was a boosing wockis Who loved to play and frolic He had a fluffy purple fur And a long and curly tail He lived in a forest of candy trees Where he ate the sweetest fruits He made friends with all the animals And sang them happy tunes But one day he met a hunter Who wanted to catch him for his fur He chased him through the forest With a net and a gun Bingus ran as fast as he could But he tripped on a root and fell The hunter was about to grab him When he heard a loud and angry yell It was Bingus' friends, the animals They came to rescue him from harm They scared the hunter away with their roars and bites And hugged Bingus with their arms Bingus thanked them for their help And said he was glad they were his friends They all went back to the candy trees And lived happily ever after. The end.

  • @capitalb5889
    @capitalb5889 Рік тому +8

    Entertaining as ever. It's amazing how far these have progressed in such a short time.

  • @CatsT.M
    @CatsT.M Рік тому +1

    I have just recently seen The Grand Budapest Hotel and now get Boy With Apple! Thank you for your references.

  • @georgH
    @georgH 12 днів тому

    I've had dreams that looked like that, you could identify text that really wasn't.
    But also had dreams were I was able to read text very clearly.

  • @YoutubePizzer
    @YoutubePizzer Рік тому

    I love the emergency instructions one, it feels like that one “how is prangent formed” video

  • @maximiliandort3489
    @maximiliandort3489 Рік тому +1

    I want to learn more about Bingus the boosing Wockus. Seems like a nice chap

  • @MichaelDarrow-tr1mn
    @MichaelDarrow-tr1mn Рік тому +1

    you did not have to read those words so professionally, but you did, and that's amazing

  • @NotASpyReally
    @NotASpyReally Рік тому

    5:46 "SAD JARLE" this made me laugh so much XD

  • @principleshipcoleoid8095
    @principleshipcoleoid8095 Рік тому +2

    1:30 which version of Stable Diffusion? That is very important question. And different samplers too can create different results

  • @blackoutlol2857
    @blackoutlol2857 Рік тому

    This reminds me of those sentences where they jumble every letter after the first one like it looks right at a glance but turns into gibberish when you actually try to read it as is.

  • @SomeOrdinaryJanitor
    @SomeOrdinaryJanitor Рік тому

    man... sometimes those fortune cookies speak facts. "I wooee forite us it not thoigtt the the it wole tute" really connects with me, i feel that it really speaks to me on a personal level.

  • @heikable
    @heikable Рік тому

    The AI generated texts gave me flashbacks to the red room scenes in Twin Peaks.

  • @voidify3
    @voidify3 Рік тому

    The video someone made where they fed every line of Bo Burnham’s “Welcome To The Internet” into Midjourney displays this really interestingly. I have a top comment on that vid with timecodes for all the not-quite-text

  • @simleek6766
    @simleek6766 Рік тому

    Similar neural networks with larger numbers of neurons can generate text in images fairly well, so the archetypal parts of language might be a thing.

  • @Ceereeal
    @Ceereeal Рік тому

    I feel like generating poems and such using AI like the cheese poem would be a great method of coming up with a lexicon for a conlang.

  • @Arcanefungus
    @Arcanefungus Рік тому

    I completely lost it at bingus the boozing wockis
    Sounds like a Douglas Adams character

  • @Mayorfoxia82
    @Mayorfoxia82 Рік тому

    2:04 lets hope these mouse codes work better than the previous ones.

  • @JonnyCrackers
    @JonnyCrackers Рік тому

    I actually love doing prompts such as "album cover: 'Lovely Cucumbers by Iron Maiden'". I also do it with movie posters/DVD box art, and video game cover art. Mixing something nonsensical with an already established IP is often pretty funny.

  • @joeconti2396
    @joeconti2396 Рік тому

    The cheese poems immediately made me think of Vinesauce trying to speak corruptions.

  • @P0SSPWRD
    @P0SSPWRD Рік тому

    "Bingus: The Boosing Wockis
    Truly a masterpiece novel of our generation

  • @Journey_to_who_knows
    @Journey_to_who_knows Рік тому

    1:00 Bullsquid
    5:10 Vogon poetry

  • @Jawst
    @Jawst Рік тому +3

    Doing unusual things with things is my favourite thing to do 😁

  • @htomerif
    @htomerif Рік тому

    I always liken these things to an octopus's understanding of the patterns it itself is making to camouflage itself against a background: there is no understanding. It is just camouflage.
    A good example of this is looking at the flowers from 2:23 to 2:55 or so. If you're looking at the sunlight and the glass and the refraction, the camouflage is good, but the flowers themselves are, in every instance, wrong. Most of them even include weird refraction or extensions of glass and water in the "flowers".
    I think if you were to look at those pictures from the perspective of being a flower yourself, they look every bit like the body horror that you get from "pencil drawing of an athlete" that you got with earlier image generators.
    Another very, very important (you know, IMHO) aspect of these AI generated images is that for now they're trained on *real* images. As the internet becomes progressively more populated with AI generated images, the training set (i.e. the internet scraped for images) will include the cumulative error of previous generations of AI images. It will be like layering octopuses on top of octopuses stacked down to what you wanted them to imitate. What would that look like? Dunno.
    -edit (TL;DR portion)
    In particular, lets look at the glass lobster picture at 3:00 just a bit closer. You might notice a few things wrong:
    1, the lobster has 3 antennae that merge and branch in an unlobsterlike way.
    2, the left side of the pine table (with the lobster as a divider) is a different color and grain than the right.
    3, the grooves in the table don't line up.
    4, the shadow of the lobster is wrong. Its not in sunlight. It looks like a diffuse shadow that's an artifact of most glass sculpture images being against a white background with diffuse light. It looks like a bad green screen shadow.
    5, what's that little green thing in the window? Well, its a nonsense. There's supposed to be "stuff" visible through windows and it put "stuff" there.
    At first glance it does look convincing in exactly the same way that you would never notice a cuttlefish nestled in against some coral and sand or a leaf butterfly on a stick at first glance, but even a mildly thorough look reveals any of those things to be not what they seem.
    One of the reasons these things excel at artistic impressions over photorealism is because all of those things that I mentioned could just be chalked up to "artistic expression", though I suspect that if I were an accomplished oil painter, those images would also fail in obvious ways not evident to me, me being inexperienced with oil painting.
    I'd really suggest taking a closer look at the things in the background, the continuity of objects, whether windows on the same building are the same style. Not a single one of these "photorealistic" images hold up if you're given more than a couple of seconds to look at them.

  • @labrabellart1380
    @labrabellart1380 Рік тому

    The short poem about cheese just makes me think that this would be a brilliant way to create made up languages for fantasy settings

  • @DemstarAus
    @DemstarAus Рік тому

    Gosh so we have Simon Roper referenced, and David Firth in the comments. This is my corner of the internet.
    Also "ARRSK" is a smooshing of ARGH and RISK and ARSE and may very well be the sort of thing I'd exclaim in a moment of panic.

  • @JakeBourne13
    @JakeBourne13 Рік тому

    Great video, randomness i didnt know i needed

  • @mattelder1971
    @mattelder1971 Рік тому

    Simon's readings were awe inspiring, yours however were simply hilarious.

  • @skrimper
    @skrimper Рік тому

    As someone who isn't an artist, I welcome the new AI art revolution. Theyll get over it!

  • @EliStettner
    @EliStettner Рік тому

    You are your videos make me so hopeful about life.

  • @PizzaWormLight
    @PizzaWormLight Рік тому

    I lost it at Bingus the Boosing Wockis

  • @sbcinema
    @sbcinema Рік тому

    the images are likely to be from all countries in the world and are therefore all in different languages

  • @s4098429
    @s4098429 Рік тому

    I’d imagine having a stroke and losing the part of your brain that can read and write would be like looking at these images of text. They’re both familiar yet alien and unintelligible at the same time; strange indeed.

  • @qwertykeyboard5901
    @qwertykeyboard5901 10 днів тому

    Those mice and squirrels look creepy.

  • @Elliot-T
    @Elliot-T Рік тому

    The first chapter of Bingus the boosing wockis needs to be written.

  • @Ziabetus
    @Ziabetus Рік тому

    I need that bingus the boozing wockus image in 4k

  • @doodlegarbage6769
    @doodlegarbage6769 Рік тому

    The cheese poems sounded like they were being spoken in a foreign language

  • @DanceTranced
    @DanceTranced Рік тому

    This was great fun.

  • @NoahHornberger
    @NoahHornberger Рік тому

    I interpret tongues at church. So the last one says "you are the son I imagined I would get if I got things right"

  • @musickid43
    @musickid43 Рік тому

    I wonder what it would generate if asked for an oil painting of Mr barrister John warosa.

  • @radicalcartoons2766
    @radicalcartoons2766 Рік тому +2

    I think we will look back on this era as "Rubbish in, Rubbish out", when "AI" is eventually recognised as unattainable. Very funny! (I love Simon too, both of you are what UA-cam was created for).

  • @keonscorner516
    @keonscorner516 Рік тому +1

    "DO'T AST DX'T MAS TET"

  • @gabrielv.4358
    @gabrielv.4358 Рік тому

    I'd love the world where the ai's are unlimited unrestricted and free, only with ads.

  • @MePeterNicholls
    @MePeterNicholls Рік тому

    It’s like text when you dream and try to read itv

  • @Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer

    Dear ChatGPT, please generate a poem, in old English, that Atomic Shrimp might ask of Dall.E or Stable Fusion, in the performance style of Simon Roper.

  • @Quinn-kr2cp
    @Quinn-kr2cp Рік тому +1540

    Given how many misspellings of “yard sale” already exist, I wouldn’t be surprised if “YARLD SALE!” was a real one too

    • @peterfoster1466
      @peterfoster1466 Рік тому +57

      Could try new scrambled versions of the FAULTY TOWERS sign.

    • @theuncalledfor
      @theuncalledfor Рік тому +125

      YARD YAY

    • @jhonbus
      @jhonbus Рік тому +106

      Yes! Made me think of a well-known example "YARD SARD"

    • @RedstoneItems64
      @RedstoneItems64 Рік тому +65

      YARRD OR SALD

    • @miradrgn
      @miradrgn Рік тому +31

      those were absolutely the most true-to-life images ive seen from any neural network

  • @neilomac
    @neilomac Рік тому +803

    I genuinely laughed like an idiot at 'Bingus the Boozing Wockis'. That definitely needs to be a thing.

    • @happybunny1329
      @happybunny1329 Рік тому +24

      Needs to be featured in one of those precautionary advertisements that Shrimp does. :)

    • @sarasthoughts
      @sarasthoughts Рік тому +14

      I'm laughing my ass off on my way to work replaying that clip I can't breathe

    • @thomasreichert2804
      @thomasreichert2804 Рік тому +5

      I'm crying in laughter sitting in a café looking at that creation

    • @Soken50
      @Soken50 Рік тому +7

      Maybe he can ask chatGPT to write this story in a follow up video :D

    • @cobaltchromee7533
      @cobaltchromee7533 Рік тому

      @@Soken50 I prompted chatgpt to write a story about him.
      It goes something like this:
      "Once upon a time, in a far-off forest, there lived a Wockis named Bingus. Bingus was not like any other Wockis in the forest, for he had a love for one thing above all else: booze.
      While other Wockis spent their days foraging for food and building homes, Bingus spent his time searching for anything he could ferment and turn into alcohol. He collected berries, fruits, and even flowers to make his potent concoctions.
      Bingus was not a very good Wockis. He often stumbled around drunk, and his home was always in disarray. His fellow Wockis disapproved of his behavior and shunned him. But Bingus didn't care. He was content with his boozy lifestyle.
      One day, while out searching for ingredients for his latest brew, Bingus stumbled upon a group of humans having a party in the forest. The humans were drinking and dancing, and Bingus couldn't resist joining in.
      As the night wore on, Bingus became the life of the party. His drunken antics and strange Wockis behavior had the humans in stitches. They even started calling him "Boozing Bingus," which only made him drink more.
      But as the night drew to a close, Bingus realized that he was lost in the forest, far from his home. He stumbled around, trying to find his way back but to no avail. As the sun rose in the sky, Bingus collapsed from exhaustion and too much alcohol.
      Hours later, Bingus woke up to find himself in a strange place. He was in a human hospital, hooked up to all sorts of machines. The humans had found him and brought him here, hoping to save his life.
      Bingus was confused and scared, but he soon realized that he needed to change his ways. He couldn't keep living his life as a drunkard, ignoring his responsibilities as a Wockis. So he sobered up, apologized to his fellow Wockis, and started to make amends for his past behavior.
      Bingus still enjoyed a drink now and then, but he never let it consume him again. He learned that there was more to life than just getting drunk and that being a responsible member of his community was more important than anything else. And so, Bingus the Boozing Wockis became Bingus the Responsible Wockis, a role model for all the other Wockis in the forest."
      It even has a moral!

  • @trickvro
    @trickvro Рік тому +1624

    It's always entertaining to listen to you read out gibberish very literally and with a straight face, whether it's written by a scammer or a machine.

    • @ollllj
      @ollllj Рік тому +56

      he is experienced in reading identically nonsensical gibberish from scam/phirshing emails

    • @sunilpatel2883
      @sunilpatel2883 Рік тому +18

      I imagine there must be so many outtakes for him to do this so fluidly! And I agree, it's very entertaining!

    • @leea8706
      @leea8706 Рік тому +11

      I like it when every so often, once in a blue moon, he can’t help but laugh. I remember ‘disguised as gold bricks’ but that may be the only time.

    • @Kapten_R3
      @Kapten_R3 Рік тому +1

      @@ollllj hello there fellow rainbow Megute

  • @adam94949494
    @adam94949494 Рік тому +568

    I appreciate that right after you explained how the meanings of sentences can be misinterpreted or ambiguous, you then showed a range of photos of chicken stock as examples of "stock photos".

  • @J546b
    @J546b Рік тому +535

    I had a lucid dream in which I “woke up” (while still dreaming) in a little gift shop mall. It occurred to me to look at the words written on the packages of items on the shelves, and they were much the same as seen here. Their form and presentation looked appropriate, and from a distance everything seemed fine, but up close each word was believably structured gibberish.
    It makes me wonder about any parallels between the processes the mind uses to structure dreams and that used by a.i.

    • @majiira
      @majiira Рік тому +80

      I know when I'm dreaming once I try to use my phone in the dream. It looks normal but clicking on apps or trying to take a picture makes everything jumble

    • @Bempus
      @Bempus Рік тому +83

      There is probably some sort of correlation, your mind is just piecing together things it's seen and makes something believable of it, but since there's no physical relation to the imagination the things you see don't have to follow the rules of nature.
      I once dreamt I was walking in the middle of a city I know very well, the difference was, it was all empty, not a single person, car or tram, and the sun was shining a little too bright, but it was a lovely stroll and everything else appeared truthful to reality.

    • @YTStoleMyUsername
      @YTStoleMyUsername Рік тому +54

      This is a common reality check in lucid dreaming. Looking at a clock or any form of text to see if it's malformed or odd is an indication you may be dreaming, you can also try looking away and try willing the text/numbers to change and then looking back. I remember the clock check but you are right about the text too!

    • @shawermus
      @shawermus Рік тому +5

      Yeeeeaaaah, I also always thought about that. Also while focusing on what exactly my mind imagines and comparing it to AI work

    • @fake-inafakerson8087
      @fake-inafakerson8087 Рік тому +25

      IMO the part of your brain that organizes your dreams probably can't understand language, but knows how to make things look believable. This is likely whats going on here with the AI

  • @mystak3n
    @mystak3n Рік тому +148

    The “sard” sign made me laugh so hard. One of the places I frequent has yard sale fundraisers, but before the first one the person making the sign for it was half asleep. So she accidentally write “yard sard” instead. We’ve been calling em yard sards ever since.

    • @cara-seyun
      @cara-seyun Рік тому +17

      Reminds me of my friend writing “fun facts about funland” for his geography class

    • @no-one-1
      @no-one-1 Рік тому +10

      I love Funland! 😃

  • @davidmonroe6930
    @davidmonroe6930 Рік тому +504

    Can we just take a moment to appreciate flawless pronunciation of Welsh double l with no pause or hesitation?

    • @jonathanrichards593
      @jonathanrichards593 Рік тому +40

      Lots of English English-speakers can do this - we've heard plenty of people pronounce Llangollen and Llandudno properly over the years! I don't doubt that many cannot (or do not, in any event). In the event that anyone does *not* know how Ll is pronounced, I give you the exposition by Edward Lhuyd (1660-1709):
      L has two pronunciations in the oldeſt MSS. That which is common in the Engliſh and all other Languages, and that which is at preſent peculiar to the Welſh, and is beſt learn'd by the Ear. Its perform'd by hiſſing the L thro' the Teeth ſide-wards, and altering it in the ſame manner as T is alter'd by the addition of the h, in the word Think, &c.

    • @Glenda70
      @Glenda70 Рік тому +2

      @@jonathanrichards593 Brilliant!

    • @DanDart
      @DanDart Рік тому +1

      And that X!

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 Рік тому

      IKR it's llovely

    • @Teverell
      @Teverell Рік тому

      in fact, without hesitation, deviation or repetition...

  • @thermonuclearwarhead
    @thermonuclearwarhead Рік тому +405

    Made me realize how much I enjoyed the AIs just being artsy and weird in the beginning.
    Being efficient and doing what they're told is probably a good thing, but I do hope we'll always have a few 'special' wacky AIs around for hilariously unintentional outputs.

    • @SophiiLuca
      @SophiiLuca Рік тому +52

      I wonder if it would be possible to ask these AIs if they could create an image of ‘badly made AI generated image of a dog’ or ‘a dog in the style of AI generated images from the early 2020s’ or something akin to this. I also wonder if it would be able to create these images, and if we would have to feed it these horribly made AI images so it can learn what it would even mean to prompt these things. Then we would perhaps be able to make it create bad/wacky AI images intentionally and on purpose.

    • @thermonuclearwarhead
      @thermonuclearwarhead Рік тому +4

      @@SophiiLuca brilliant 🤣

    • @wabbajocky8235
      @wabbajocky8235 Рік тому +8

      ​@@SophiiLucainfinite ai loop

    • @JonnyCrackers
      @JonnyCrackers Рік тому +15

      They'll still be around. Many of these AI models can be run locally on people's PCs, so people will have them downloaded which means they will likely be reuploaded by people who collect all the versions as they come out.

    • @Mente_Fugaz
      @Mente_Fugaz Рік тому +7

      The Ai is not there to make art,
      is just to imitate the work of people so you can pay the corporations instead of the artists
      so if a picture looks weird and interesting,
      the developers will put a lot of effort to fix that, so it can looks just like a human work

  • @thetank2078
    @thetank2078 Рік тому +98

    5:56 I don’t know why but this really made me laugh. The deadpan “WANGED” just got me

    • @jonathanrichards593
      @jonathanrichards593 Рік тому +30

      Pergency Wanged, what's more. It's like something a small boy would say...

    • @unpreparedwithacapitalf
      @unpreparedwithacapitalf Рік тому +8

      ​@@jonathanrichards593 that reminded me so much of that meme where no one can spell pregnancy

  • @Dark_Slayer3000
    @Dark_Slayer3000 Рік тому +23

    6:42 BINGUS????? AI generated Bingus???!

  • @PawsOnTheBalcony
    @PawsOnTheBalcony Рік тому +356

    These ai-generated texts look like what I imagine text in dreams to look like...resembling real text, but without any rhyme or reason or actual meaning. Sometimes stunted or distorted. Fascinating 👍

    • @MysteriumArcanum
      @MysteriumArcanum Рік тому +31

      I always hear that but I distinctly remember a dream I had a few months back where I was reading something and I could read it perfectly fine. IIRC it was some kind of horror story.

    • @sarah12232
      @sarah12232 Рік тому +16

      @@MysteriumArcanum I have also had one dream where I actually saw legitimate text in first person

    • @MysteriumArcanum
      @MysteriumArcanum Рік тому +6

      @@sarah12232 so you could read it and it actually made coherent sense?

    • @chewy99.
      @chewy99. Рік тому +11

      @@MysteriumArcanum Same, but instead of some book or story, it was a label with a name and description of a species of snail, on the tank which said interesting snail was in.

    • @SMTRodent
      @SMTRodent Рік тому +10

      It's what text in my dreams look like, although real words do turn up as well. When I look back again, the text has changed.

  • @markozagar
    @markozagar Рік тому +63

    Bingus the Boozing Wockis sounds like something I would like to read, actually.

    • @adamanti
      @adamanti Рік тому +8

      Maybe an Ai could write it for us.

    • @nobodyinparticular9640
      @nobodyinparticular9640 Рік тому +1

      @Harry Satchel always drinking and getting drunk, hence the "Boozing", lmao

    • @maxfmfdm
      @maxfmfdm 14 днів тому +2

      We need a high quality bound illustraited version of Bingus the Boosing Wockus.

  • @rideronthedrumbeat
    @rideronthedrumbeat Рік тому +42

    Here's a possible explanation behind those patterns you saw: An image generation algorithm can't distinguish real words from gibberish, but it knows what plenty of real words LOOK like. If it sees a letter sequence like "in" or "an" or "er" over and over again, it notices those patterns and becomes more likely to generate those letters next to each other. It's also trained on lots of text with an average word length of 4 or 5 letters, so it has a pretty good understanding of how many letters usually appear before a space.
    For the warning signs, it probably has a lot of training data that matches that description, with words like "danger", "caution", "emergency", "warning" etc. It knows the approximate appearance of words that are most common at the top of those signs, but not what distinguishes one word from another, hence why you got a lot of close-but-not-quite outputs like "emerercenticy" and "wanged".
    The font is also significant. Warning signs are usually in all-caps, sans-serif font, which are pretty consistent and easily reproducible. A poem or proverb could be in all sorts of fancy decorative fonts, making letter patterns harder for an algorithm to detect.

    • @Yougottado
      @Yougottado 5 місяців тому

      Lol it’s purposely making mistakes bro. It can read text. Write an entire essay word perfect within seconds. Create detailed images within seconds. It’s safeguarding against fraud etc, i could be saying create a realistic image of showing screenshot me transferring money to u from my bank. It’s their version of having a watermark so u can see an image isn’t real.

    • @rideronthedrumbeat
      @rideronthedrumbeat 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@YougottadoWell, I made that comment over a year ago, and AI has changed a lot since then, so my comment above was limited by what I knew about existing technologies at the time.
      To your point, that's certainly one of the possible reasons - similar to how early versions of DALL-E wouldn't reliably generate faces - but it's far from the only reason.
      ChatGPT may be able to "write" an essay in seconds, but from a generative perspective, text and images are two very different beasts. There are only 26 letters in the English alphabet and there are a finite number of ways to arrange them, the most common of which will be reflected in the training data. Image generation is a lot more complex because there are a lot more colours than there are letters, and there are a lot more pixels in an image than there are letters in an essay.
      Ultimately, AI doesn't "know" when it produces bogus output. There are safeguards a programmer can put in place to reduce the amount of bogus output, but an AI left to its own devices is bound to mess up once in a while. Some models may be designed to produce bad text on purpose, but the longer this tech develops, the less you'll start to see that happen. A lot of generative AI models these days are open source, meaning people can exploit them for all kinds of nefarious purposes. I'd love to live in a world where it was impossible to generate a fake bank screenshot with AI, but unfortunately, that's not the world we live in.

    • @circuit10
      @circuit10 13 днів тому +2

      @@YougottadoThe text AIs are different models, image AIs are just bad at text

  • @plasmasupremacy9321
    @plasmasupremacy9321 Рік тому +43

    Some people have discovered that if you ask dall-e for a written word, and then feed the nonsense word it generates back into dall-e as a prompt, you sometimes get pictures of the object the original word describes. For example, I saw someone do it with "bird". It's almost like dalle does have its own association of meaning with the nonsense words it generates, which is kind of interesting if you ask me. If you have any success with that method it could be an amusing video perhaps.

  • @SophiesLoaf
    @SophiesLoaf Рік тому +207

    Simon Roper's reading of the poems sound a lot like the spoken dialogue in the Gravity Rush games. The spoken language in those games is a fake combination of french and japanese, and while his reading of the poems don't sound like either of those languages, it sounds so close to words you feel like you should be able to understand that it invokes the same feeling. Might just be me though, and I'll always look for an opportunity to mention my favorite games

    • @happybunny1329
      @happybunny1329 Рік тому +28

      He's pronouncing it as if it is written in Old English. This was the form of English that was used in Anglo-Saxon times... around 500AD. As an example, the Anglo-Saxon poem Beowulf was written in Old English. The scholars have worked out how the language was pronounced through studying the literary works from that period... such as by studying the rhymes in poems. It's a fascinating version of English - it's the original precursor of the language, before all the Viking and French influences kicked in, which changed the language so much. I'm sure these old languages would influence game developers, who would want to get an authentic feel for the game. :)

    • @ahandsomefridge
      @ahandsomefridge Рік тому +6

      I was thinking Irish or Gaelic and perhaps a tiny bit of Latin and Icelandic, comparison-wise. Well or Old English of course, but that's just the boring truth.

    • @LimeyRedneck
      @LimeyRedneck Рік тому +3

      @@happybunny1329 Love Simon's channel and also RobWords who has a video: Anglish that you might enjoy 🤠

    • @happybunny1329
      @happybunny1329 Рік тому +2

      @@LimeyRedneck Thanks very much. I will check it out. :)

    • @rogink
      @rogink Рік тому +1

      @@LimeyRedneck History with Hilbert is another.

  • @LukeAps
    @LukeAps Рік тому +170

    This thing creates exactly the text of messages in my dreams. Hilarious!

    • @Cojrak
      @Cojrak Рік тому +21

      I think you might be onto something here. Maybe dreams are like AI, trying to make sense of the training output during the day but lacking frontal lobe sensemaking and coherence?

    • @CullenCraft
      @CullenCraft Рік тому +2

      @@Cojrak yes. And also, where do you get your stuff? I need it.

    • @riggles
      @riggles Рік тому +6

      ​@@Cojrak A reason text in dreams doesn't make much sense, other than maybe couple of words, is because your brains hippocampus or "RAM" isn't enough to keep it a whole page of written text in memory, and even if you have texts perfectly memorized your brain doesn't keep that text stored like an "image" that it can just load. This is true even if you vivid dream and can make perfect sense of things, when you've trained yourself to vivid dream you'll notice things can warp and change as your brain is making some approximations. So it wouldn't be related to not being able to make sense of things.
      If you're looking at a map, the details will change as you move your "eyes" across the map and back, text contains a lot of very specific shapes to make sense to us and can't just be approximated, so things like text on the map won't make sense and change outside of the word you're reading. And even that might be a bit fuzzy and imperfect from person to person.

    • @Cojrak
      @Cojrak Рік тому +2

      @@riggles That's actually a fascinating take. I have some education in neuropsychology but it's not something I specialize in. However, I recently read some scientific articles about inner speech, or more accurately, how very hard it is for scientist to find consensus definition and explanation for that phenomenon (there has been some research concerning schizophrenia and attempts to define voice hallucinations as inner speech of whose origins are misinterpreted, but that would require a definition of workings of inner speech so..) . So I can see your point, that text is not stored as a text but as a more salient memory, but if not text and if not speech then what is it stored as. This is more of a rhetorical/philosophical question, not directed at you, though of course if you have thoughts I would be interested in them.
      I'm still left thinking about AI training input as a model/metaphor for human dreams (humans having much less and still too much input during the day). I've not thought it through scientifically yet, though I would not say it's not million miles away from Antti Revonsuo's threat simulation theory. And come to think of it, maybe it would work as a metaphor for learning that is associated in the development of psychopathology, where some events and threats are blown out of proportion due to higher than usual exposure to negative situations.

    • @universal_hyssoap
      @universal_hyssoap Рік тому +2

      ​@Riggles1 I've never gotten this "text can't be read in dreams" thing since I've had multiple really vivid dreams where I've read like entire pages of things from the internet. One of the dreams I even read this very wordy comic twice over and it was the same each time

  • @wariolandgoldpiramid
    @wariolandgoldpiramid Рік тому +122

    AI trying to produce text is like our brains trying to process text in our dreams.

    • @kolkonut
      @kolkonut Рік тому +14

      what is AI but the dreams of a million scientists

    • @markfergerson2145
      @markfergerson2145 Рік тому +7

      The only text I clearly remember from a dream is a candy bar labeled "Carraheers" almost certainly prompted by me (while awake) reading a candy bar label and wondering what carrageenan was. It was in the style of a Three Musketeers bar by the way, making the dream word a portmanteau of carrageenan and Musketeer.
      Now that I think about it, that's eerily similar to what these programs are doing...

    • @Randomii666
      @Randomii666 Рік тому +2

      I don't know if i'm weird, but i remember any text in my dreams being completely coherrent and sensible

    • @rowboat10
      @rowboat10 Рік тому

      Can people stop making this comparison please

    • @inkoalawetrust
      @inkoalawetrust Рік тому +2

      @@rowboat10 No because it's a good one.

  • @lendenreynolds2089
    @lendenreynolds2089 Рік тому +26

    My PFP is made by ai! I was asking for "Himbo" in white on a space background. I'm very happy to see text that's so close! (This was not my first try though haha)

    • @Damian-cilr2
      @Damian-cilr2 Рік тому +2

      that pfp looks so cool yet so cursed.

    • @ubblebungus
      @ubblebungus Рік тому +3

      i guess it worked because before reading the whole comment I check your pfp as you mentioned it and I thought it looked like "himbo"

  • @ollllj
    @ollllj Рік тому +30

    for parsing, stable diffusion REALLY loves proper commas, especially the oxford-comma, and a list of properly-sorted adjectives. Stable-diffusion will take ANY metaphor literal, and metaphors are mostly about adpositions (abstractions around adpositions, you can easily sort 10000 metaphors+idioms by the adpositions in them), so you should avoid adpositions/prepositions (they may just imply a metaphor that you may not even realize that it could be taken too literal) and use adjectives for context instead, and use directions+containers as adjectives, instead of adpositions, and sort adjectives properly!!!

    • @ladyravendale1
      @ladyravendale1 Рік тому +4

      For those not familiar with “adpositions” like me until a few seconds ago, according to Wikipedia, “Prepositions and postpositions, together called adpositions, are a class of words used to express spatial or temporal relations or mark various semantic roles. A preposition or postposition typically combines with a noun phrase, this being called its complement, or sometimes object.” From what I can tell, especially in the context of prompts for AI, they are a class of filler words I have generally learned to exclude despite not knowing it, just because as ollllj said for an AI they are often filler that can introduce lexical ambiguity.

  • @revimfadli4666
    @revimfadli4666 Рік тому +9

    5:44 Yard Yay just oozes positive energy, really puts me in shopping mood

  • @BrakeCoach
    @BrakeCoach Рік тому +6

    5:13 was that a welsh ll?

  • @ACombineSoldier
    @ACombineSoldier Рік тому +14

    Oh, cheese, how you bring me such joy
    Your flavors, textures, oh boy!
    From cheddar to brie, you never disappoint
    A perfect addition to any savory joint
    You melt so beautifully, oh so smooth
    On pizza, in mac and cheese, you always improve
    Your sharpness and tanginess, a delight to the tongue
    I could eat you all day, until my belt is undone
    From grilled cheese sandwiches to cheeseburgers galore
    You elevate every dish, leaving me wanting more
    Oh, cheese, how I love thee, let me count the ways
    Forever in my heart, always a place to stay.

  • @Yamthief
    @Yamthief Рік тому +12

    There are a bunch of little tricks you can do with your prompts in order to get better results, for example: Dall-e allows you to apply weight to certain elements of the prompt like so:
    "[a cat::8] in [a field of corn::2]"
    The cat has a lot more weight and as such will be much more prominent in the image, and there will be a hint of a corn field, probably in the background. If you were to swap the weights, the field becomes the more important element and the cat should be almost a background element.

    • @rkvkydqf
      @rkvkydqf Рік тому +1

      I think you're talking about Midjourney, not DALL-E.

    • @Yamthief
      @Yamthief Рік тому +1

      @@rkvkydqf you're probably right. It's been quite a while since I last played with these AI image generators.

  • @techpriestsalok8119
    @techpriestsalok8119 Рік тому +4

    7:00 it reminds me of those videos that show how English sounds to people who don’t speak it. It’s got all the proper sounds, but without any discernible meaning.

  • @TheSilverInfinity
    @TheSilverInfinity Рік тому +13

    this is really interesting. I remember playing around withone of those ai image generation sites maybe 6 months ago. asking for "motivational poster" or "motivational quotes" and getting what looks like stylistic typography but the text itself was foreign and alien looking. very cool to see that they have leveled up to actually generate english characters, even if the words made with them are incomprehensible

  • @QubaMichalski
    @QubaMichalski Рік тому +160

    I always find AI typography to look like what a person would create in a script they don’t read or write, whilst looking at examples. I’d imagine my attempts at drawing a page of Japanese characters or Arabic lettering would look just about as convincing and read as the same level of gibberish.
    Also, no interest in trying MidJourney? It’s the most “artistic” text to image model at the moment, easily surpassing many junior-level illustrators (though it tends to create images of a very distinct style one learns to recognize easily after some practice)

    • @EvanBear
      @EvanBear Рік тому +2

      Midjourney is still in beta. I had a chance to try it out and it is great for more artistic prompts but I don't think it would get great results for a video like this.

    • @OhSoUnicornly
      @OhSoUnicornly Рік тому +2

      @@EvanBear It honestly can! You sometimes have to run a few prompts but it makes amazing things, in an artistic style. It's great with fantasy concepts, DnD characters, magic or pretty lighting.

    • @EvanBear
      @EvanBear Рік тому +2

      @@OhSoUnicornly Yes it's very artistic but it doesn't do well with "in the style of X" type of prompts. It has its own style. I got amazing cyberpunk images out of it tho, so I'm not knocking down Midjourney as a tool but if you still have attempts try the squirrel on a red table eating colorful marbles prompt.

    • @OhSoUnicornly
      @OhSoUnicornly Рік тому +3

      @@EvanBear Ah I see - it would do great with "strange animal in a field" type prompts though, which Mike seemed to be lamenting the lack of in this one!

    • @smartperson1
      @smartperson1 Рік тому +2

      Fun fact, the type of text you are referring to is called "greeking".

  • @TheRattyBiker
    @TheRattyBiker Рік тому +20

    For the purpose of disproving the stock image theory, I'm surprised you didn't ask AI to draw an Atomic Shrimp.... The bigger question is who owns the IP / copyright rights to the output images? Is it the person who generates the image?

    • @sleptiq
      @sleptiq Рік тому +5

      I guess it depends on uniqueness and the transformative nature of the result, but I'm not sure if that's quantifiable. Generally you are allowed to create a derivative of the original work if it doesn't compete with it.

    • @moe.m
      @moe.m Рік тому +16

      The USCO (U.S. Copyright Office) just decided that images generated by an AI cannot receive copyright protection. Here it were pictures for a comic generated by Midjourney. To summarize very shortly, the text prompt doesn't influence the result sufficiently to be considered the source of the picture, and only things created by a human can receive copyright protection. This means pictures generated by an AI are in the public domain.

    • @molybdomancer195
      @molybdomancer195 Рік тому +5

      There has to be creativity and legal precedent at least in the US says that has to be human. PETA tried to claim copyright for a monkey which had taken its own photo by means a movement sensor. The court agreed the human photographer had not taken the photo so he lost his copyright but the monkey couldn’t be given it so the photo is now in the public domain. I suspect any AI generated material would fall into the same category

    • @MysteriumArcanum
      @MysteriumArcanum Рік тому +2

      ​@@molybdomancer195what about if it's an AI generated artwork of a copyrighted character? I remember a month or so ago there was this whole big issue of vtubers telling their fans to only tag them in art they did in the traditional way and being against AI art. In that instance I kind of agree with them because the AI is sampling artwork created by other people and thus it's not entirely original.

    • @cara-seyun
      @cara-seyun Рік тому

      In the US, no one owns the output and the images cannot be copyrighted (transformative media, fair use)
      I assume it’s only a matter of time before corporations lobby to get ownership of AI images so their precious money-saving AI-made brands can be monetized to the moon and back

  • @pantheonmaker9437
    @pantheonmaker9437 Рік тому +4

    6:47 sweet, þ representation

  • @julienicol9202
    @julienicol9202 Рік тому +18

    I’m glad Simon was a great sport about it! I love both of your respective channels and enjoy their content very much!

  • @saberleo4567
    @saberleo4567 Рік тому +5

    Mike, I take slight issue with your interpretation of the AI's interpretation. You've gone to great lengths to clarify that the AI is not sentient and is not building things out of thin air, but on things it was trained with. Therein lies the issue, these massive training datasets were for the most part copyrighted images that were ripped whole cloth from image scrapers. Some of which already came tagged with what they were, others were tagged manually in vast tagging farms in less developed countries. I wish that you'd keep that in mind rather than this middle ground of "well the AI 'knows' things and puts them together." Otherwise, thanks for the great video as usual, it is very funny to see the AI break in those ways.

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  Рік тому +3

      That's an interesting discussion for sure, but you're not disagreeing with anything I said in this video

    • @saberleo4567
      @saberleo4567 Рік тому +3

      @@AtomicShrimp No, it's more of, "I wish there was an asterisk here" rather than disagreement.

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  Рік тому +3

      @@saberleo4567 Sure, the ethics of data collection for training these things is a big mess right now. My own view on it does not align with either of the extremes.

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  Рік тому +6

      To elaborate: I think it's entirely reasonable for artists to find it objectionable to their work being included in the training data. I'm not completely sure if such objections should be absolutely entertained - because in a sense, I see an analogy between me studying a painting in a gallery and the algorithm being trained on an image, except no analogies are ever exact - image generation algorithms are optimised for greater competence in reproduction than I can achieve using my own skillset, so I cannot mimic what I have seen as well as an AI can. In addition to all of this, if the western world decides it's not OK for copyrighted works to be included in AI training data, other parts of the world with a more laissez-faire attitude to intellectual property rights won't care much, and will take advantage (this is an appeal to consequences, but it's also a real concern with precedents - look at the Chinese knock-off market). In summary, my own thoughts on this matter are a big unresolved mess. I can see virtue and fallacy in both 'sides' of the argument being argued.

    • @saberleo4567
      @saberleo4567 Рік тому +2

      @@AtomicShrimp I understand that side, sorry that I glibly painted your stance as unreasonably centrist, so far I'm reasonably satisfied with the conclusion of the US Copyright Office that AI art is not in it of itself copyrightable. I think that that is the best way for AI art to spread as a tool for assisting humanity rather than as a tool to subjugate it.

  • @JohnDlugosz
    @JohnDlugosz Рік тому +6

    1:52 What's really eerie is the reflection of the rest of the room, unseen in the direct view.

  • @crimester
    @crimester Рік тому +6

    8:41 "for my hair is bald" such an enlightening end to a poem about cheese 😭

  • @jamiegreenham4140
    @jamiegreenham4140 Рік тому +54

    Something to remember as well is that doesnt just have access to English text, so it's probably mixing a lot of languages into one when it tried to 'create text'

    • @mcvibing2785
      @mcvibing2785 Рік тому +5

      I'm sure an overwhelming majority of its database is english text though

  • @otistically
    @otistically Рік тому +4

    4:42 these pronounciations kills me 💀💀💀

  • @MartinAhlman
    @MartinAhlman Рік тому +42

    You and Simon Roper, this is gold! Thank you for this, I didn't know that this is what I needed.

  • @alanguile8945
    @alanguile8945 Рік тому +4

    I want a print of that extended Jabba wocky picture it is great😜

  • @ncubedsquared
    @ncubedsquared Рік тому +4

    I wonder if the pills in the image at 2:05 are the codes that will change the color of the mouse.

  • @НикитаКонстантинов-у7д

    5:33 in the second three text says "Lor", which in goofy ancients language from kirby means paradise.

  • @IndiBrony
    @IndiBrony Рік тому +33

    A couple of moments went by where I was thinking "has he multi-layered this by using an AI to read the script in his voice"? That'd be amazing.

    • @AtomicShrimp
      @AtomicShrimp  Рік тому +41

      I have thought about looking into voice cloning, and I have seen some impressive demonstrations of it, but they are never nuanced enough for me to hand over a script to them. Sometimes I don't know how I am going to express a particular phrase until the words come out of my mouth

  • @Mic_Glow
    @Mic_Glow Рік тому +3

    8:30 sounds like Dutch or some other broken half english half german mix like Irish
    with a sprinkle of French

  • @DragonFruit63677
    @DragonFruit63677 Рік тому +4

    4:04 crossover episode??

  • @SananaAnanas
    @SananaAnanas Рік тому +11

    I wonder what could happen if you asked the AI to make a picture of the alphabet. Or maybe ask it to create its own language? Thank you for the video!

    • @madison-3325
      @madison-3325 Рік тому +4

      PLS NO
      ONE GUY DID IT AND I WAS TERRIFIED

  • @SimonMarkDawson
    @SimonMarkDawson Рік тому +10

    My favourite UA-cam channel Mike, thank you! Love the variety and especially the shorts. I'm just hoping we might get more positive news on poor Davis Bon soon...!

  • @HotelPapa100
    @HotelPapa100 Рік тому +32

    I love it when two of my favourite channels unexpectedlöy clash.

  • @Real_Potato_Man
    @Real_Potato_Man Рік тому +3

    1:42 DALL.E DIDN'T NEED TO DRAW A YOUNG MOZART JFC-

  • @Colganology
    @Colganology Рік тому +2

    I saw Pergency Wanged on the Pyramid Stage at Glasto in 2018.

  • @CullenCraft
    @CullenCraft Рік тому +54

    I think the only point of AI that I've personally found, is the innate experience of finding its limits. Through your own journey to the edge of a model, you'll discover more about how your own mind works, and your position in the whole of human existence.
    And it's damn scary sometimes :)

    • @CullenCraft
      @CullenCraft Рік тому +8

      I'm also just now realizing this is the exact same meaning that humanity might have found at the top of a mountain. Or the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
      I've personally climbed down and up the grand canyon in a single day. And that feeling has real comparisons to my night of 'texting' chat gpt
      We're in a very strange place as a species.
      Entire leaps of societal progress are just hopscotch to train the future.