ST: Picard New "Old" Tricorder - First look

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  • @rubaiyat300
    @rubaiyat300 4 роки тому +1

    To be fair they did predict holograms was where things were going in Fed tech in the DS9 ep The Visitor.

  • @CubanWriter
    @CubanWriter 4 роки тому +7

    It is possible this is a civilian tricorder, and that civilian tricorders followed their own development path.

    • @marcch72
      @marcch72 4 роки тому +1

      A civilian tricorder wouldn't have the Starfleet Delta on it

    • @CubanWriter
      @CubanWriter 4 роки тому +2

      @@marcch72 Good point, I did not notice that.

  • @ronjeffrey8641
    @ronjeffrey8641 4 роки тому +1

    One prop I'm curious about is the gun Raffi is handing to Soji right after the crash in episode 9 (when she refers to Soji "Romulan boyfriend"... which is a situation Raffi has no reason to know about, but that's another story)... I haven't been able to get a clear freeze frame on it, but to me this gun looks like a current day automatic pistol.

  • @terrywest111
    @terrywest111 4 роки тому +5

    I felt the moment I saw this model that it was implied that it was before TNG (as all the tricorders in the TNG era were kinda the same). So in my head I put it in the "Lost Era" after ST: VI and before TNG. So right about the time of the Enterprise-C. I'm willing to bet that this is something we'd find in use then. It doesn't have any of the miniaturization we saw in the tricorders in TNG, DS9 and Voyager. I thought it cool that they went back to the "brick" size of the TOS/TMP era.

    • @MarkLLawrence
      @MarkLLawrence 4 роки тому +1

      Exactly what I was thinking, lost era would fit fine.

  • @wwclay86
    @wwclay86 4 роки тому +2

    There was a functional tri corder you could buy out of ones of the magazines years ago. Around the time of Star trek generations

  • @Exploder11
    @Exploder11 4 роки тому +1

    15 years ago is definitely primitive. The dominant phones were candy bar and flip style. I think it's post TNG just because it looks like it uses an edge to edge screen rather than lots of buttons and a small screen. I just wish it weren't so squared off.

    • @dannyr2976
      @dannyr2976 4 роки тому

      You mean beveled corners? Also I prefer the 'Picard' tricorders for optimising the screen space

  • @andrewbutton2039
    @andrewbutton2039 3 роки тому

    Maybe the nemesis era tricorder was a bit delicate so they added a more robust casing and a sliding cover to stop the screen getting cracked.

  • @AlpharedKanisTholiman
    @AlpharedKanisTholiman 3 роки тому

    You can tell about how old the tricorder is, it has the specific style delta withe sort of backcountry shaped not oval, but trapezoidal, so when the character left his command, he had to have kept it like some might take a tape dispenser or stapler when they change/quit a "job"

  • @bcluett1697
    @bcluett1697 4 роки тому +1

    The graphic equalizer sliders under the viewer reminds me of the sliders that were on the wall over beds in the original series sickbay of Dr McCoy. I like the design and don't mind the tactile controls.

  • @CounterYoloGaming
    @CounterYoloGaming 4 роки тому

    It's a stretch for me speculating here, but I feel this was Captain Marta Batanides' tricorder from when she & Picard were at the academy together in 2327, handed down to Rios' captain (as he idolized her), and taken by Rios later on (as he idolized him). Here is what we know from PIC episode 8 at the end (as well as from the TNG episode Tapestry when Marta Batanides was first introduced):
    (1) Picard & Batanides were starfleet academy classmates.
    (2) Alonzo Vandermeer was the first officer to Batanides, who -- in Rios' words -- "[she] was a legend to the old man"
    (3) Rios clarifies the old man immediately after as "...**my** old man" -- almost as if he looked up to Vandermeer in the same manner of respect Vandermeer also looked up to Batanides.
    It is a really far stretch honestly without "real" evidence to back it up (and I can't explain the updated software), but considering it looks pre-TNG in my mind otherwise -- it's the explanation that makes the most sense to me.

  • @rhuman8672
    @rhuman8672 4 роки тому +12

    Tricorders that don’t make a click, click click click when you open them - not a real tricorder!

    • @slighter
      @slighter 4 роки тому +7

      *Mr. Spock's TOS Tricorder has entered the chat*

    • @CJSayz2
      @CJSayz2 4 роки тому

      This is the way

  • @neophytealpha
    @neophytealpha 4 роки тому

    Reminds me of the slide phones, like the sidekick. What type of phones that came after flip phones

  • @MisterRorschach90
    @MisterRorschach90 4 роки тому +4

    to me it looks considerably more advanced. its less than half the size. the sliding part can house electronics and sensors that need shielding or protection.

  • @Mockthenerd
    @Mockthenerd 4 роки тому +12

    I miss the whole Sci-fi but with actual buttons. Everything being floating holograms now annoys me. I'm not saying it wouldn't happen but it just doesn't do it for me.

  • @TheKnightsShield
    @TheKnightsShield 4 роки тому +3

    I'd love to see some props from The Orville. ;)

  • @MrRurounismc
    @MrRurounismc 4 роки тому

    Rios does seem like an old fashion guy, so I can see a retro style tricorder being something he has. But its hard to imagine star fleet has a 'retro' line just for fun you can get.

  • @JackIsMe1993
    @JackIsMe1993 4 роки тому

    Nice of the show runners to reference Star Trek props to them.

  • @unexpectedbagel6164
    @unexpectedbagel6164 4 роки тому +2

    Counterpoint to "Why would Rios have an old tricorder?" He had those "security device" pins from Starfleet uniforms he would've never worn, the ones that debuted in Wrath of Khan, that were used into the 2340s or 2350s.

    • @chon1168
      @chon1168 4 роки тому

      Yeah. Rios keeps his ship clean. The ship itself has default multiple emergency holes (a newer system compared to older ships) (and this is a cargo ship basically as opposed to a SF ship of the line.. So why would he have and old tricorder.

    • @dragonsword7370
      @dragonsword7370 4 роки тому

      @@chon1168 it's good reliable older tech, in an emergency med kit. Probably picked up surplus or easy to constitute from a replicator. Then again... Old is a relative term.

  • @pitui1987
    @pitui1987 4 роки тому

    Well, it at least looks better than the electrical box communicators from ST II.

  • @dannyr2976
    @dannyr2976 4 роки тому

    It's difficult to (but not impossible) to compare an iconic practical prop you've grown up with vs a rendering, however I'll say there are more possibilities with the newer design. The TNG/Voyager versions could be considered bulky relative to smart devices nowadays that did not exist in the late 80s-2001 era (also such a small screen for the TNG/Voyager with lots of plastic and label tags doesn't optimise the face design). If I had to rationalise the 'Picard' version, the slide down would be a basic view showing the most vital info, with the option (as mentioned) for the slid part to fold down showing an extended sized screen to see additional info.

  • @MINKIN2
    @MINKIN2 4 роки тому +1

    If they got rid of the delta, then it could just be a "civilian" medical tricorder that came with the ships med bay.

  • @ZeroB4NG
    @ZeroB4NG 4 роки тому

    Well, there is a Voyager/Generations Starfleet Delta on the display ... in the concept art anyway. If that is on the prop then it clearly dates it as post TNG.
    But i think this is an unused Kelvin prop/concept that someone pulled out again. I could see it fitting the style of the 1701-E interior as well, if we didn't know already what Tricorders they used at that time.

  • @Thorndac1
    @Thorndac1 4 роки тому

    Most equipment seems to be ship centric in this iteration. Independent, or stand alone computer cores - not holographically conjured, seems the standard. This tricorder is a wise man's backup! Especially when you're experienced in dealing with a catastrophic loss of power in an emergency. 👍

  • @bravo1701
    @bravo1701 4 роки тому

    hey Larrys ...everyone hated how Picard zonned out in that chair but he did the same simialar thing in TNG "the battle" I think the Ferigi tapped into his eromatic syndrome to make him crazy

  • @christopherleonard247
    @christopherleonard247 4 роки тому

    Perhaps the lower part of this tricorder imakes it able to record holographic images.

  • @sw-gs
    @sw-gs 4 роки тому

    It is "Medical Tricoder" while Tricoder used by Doctors in Star Trek series was standard Tricoder with Scanner attachement.

    • @Marvin_R
      @Marvin_R 4 роки тому +1

      the tricorders with the attachment were called medical tricorders.
      to quote the doctor:
      "tricorder! ... MEDICAL tricorder!"

    • @jamiethomas18
      @jamiethomas18 4 роки тому +1

      A Tricorder and a medical Tricorder still looked the same, it was the peripheral scanner that differentiated the medical from the science Tricorder.
      The fact that it is called, rather idiotically, an "old school" Tricorder means it would surely have been either the style seen in Nemesis or the Mark X seen from First Contact onwards through DS9 and Voyager.

  • @dannyd807
    @dannyd807 4 роки тому

    Yeah it would be way cool if the bottom flipped open

  • @briankesterson4365
    @briankesterson4365 4 роки тому

    Nice job gents!

  • @geneiwanskijr5957
    @geneiwanskijr5957 4 роки тому

    Tricorders could be as inexpensive as the $1.99 calculator in the checkout line is now. But when they first came out, they were hundreds of dollars and very basic.

  • @universaljoint
    @universaljoint 4 роки тому +3

    That scene really pissed me off. They went through the process of diligently drawing our attention to her use of an "old school" tricorder, yet then not only NOT show us what it clearly is, it's still obviously nothing we've seen before.
    My point is: The dialogue wasn't anything more than for fans. Non fans wouldn't care, and otherwise, none of that had to be said. She would have just said I need to scan you or something.
    And IF this was clearly stated for fans, then WHY the hell not use something that fans would recognize?
    Seriously, does anyone on the show actually care about Star Trek? I feel like they just keep cherry picking things to clickbait fans into this series.

    • @jamiethomas18
      @jamiethomas18 4 роки тому +1

      With you on this 100%.

    • @jamiethomas18
      @jamiethomas18 4 роки тому +1

      @HN you do understand that the TNG Tricorder was made BEFORE smartphones were invented.

    • @universaljoint
      @universaljoint 4 роки тому

      @HN Really? I suppose you have no clue what the fictional tricorder was supposed to be able to do, independent of a network. A cell phone can take pictures, look up information, and communicate over a paid limited network.
      As for if you think it looks good, that's just perspective of course. I have no issue if someone doesn't like how it looks.
      Though your response doesn't really address my statement. Like, even remotely.

    • @jamiethomas18
      @jamiethomas18 4 роки тому +1

      @@universaljoint I don't think HN really understands anything. They just wanted to make some noise.

    • @universaljoint
      @universaljoint 4 роки тому

      @HN calm down sweetheart, it was just a comment.

  • @90lancaster
    @90lancaster 4 роки тому

    I do think it would be nice to have some props but they might have to be very limited art pieces costing hundreds of dollars, as the production runs would be pretty small - Macfarlane toys couldn't even get enough orders to make it worth their while producing Discovery props & they are still ultra reluctant to release things for that show.
    When you alienate your core audience the number of people left who are rich enough or completest enough isn't an ideal number for mass production, even Star Wars has discovered this much. It was pretty difficult to get anything Voyager/Ds9/Enterprise related in the way of props anyway so that was a hard enough sell everything since Beyond seems to be such diminishing returns that I can't see much happening for Picard beyond what Discovery already gets which is Eaglemoss models and a little bit of minor additional stuff like com badges.
    But to be honest what I always say about Star Wars applies here too - make cool stuff and have it doing cool stuff (i.e. show it off properly) then people will buy it - have less cool stuff doing stupid things or nothing of consequence and people are less likely to show an interest in spending money on it. Picard is a show with a dystopian mean spirited vision with repeated murders and bad language, and even something like The Walking Dead sold more comic related toys than it did TV show ones (which is a show with many of the same problems Picard has).
    I can't see Picard toys in a Walmart anytime soon unless the show changes dramatically for the better in it's second season, and as some have pointed out - this is the "fixed" version of the show. I don't think licensees are going to be beating CBS's door down on this one - more running away screaming perhaps.

  • @CJSayz2
    @CJSayz2 4 роки тому

    The only worthwhile medical tricorder was the Mark VII that came in play after season 3.

  • @avenuePad
    @avenuePad 4 роки тому +3

    It looks great. I wondered why they didn't just use a TNG style tricorder, but I also like seeing stuff from the years we have missed. But the Voyager tricorder looks kinda silly, honestly. Definitely glad they didn't show that.

    • @avenuePad
      @avenuePad 4 роки тому

      @@DanBen07 That could very well be, though you would think that Paramount/CBS own the rights to it. That said, the whole merger of CBS and Paramount probably still have licensing rights to work out.

    • @ronjeffrey8641
      @ronjeffrey8641 4 роки тому

      They didn't use an existing design because they were hoping to have a new product to merchandise. You know back before all the contracts fell through and the merchandising companies ran for the hills to get away from this trash fire.

    • @avenuePad
      @avenuePad 4 роки тому

      @@ronjeffrey8641 Interesting theory. Sounds like Midnight Edge BS.

  • @slighter
    @slighter 4 роки тому

    My guess is that this is a tricorder of the lost era. Aka pre-TNG like in the early 24th century. Maybe found on the Enterprise-B or C. So, I agree with samuel.

  • @MechaTrekAD
    @MechaTrekAD 4 роки тому

    Is it a Starfleet Tricorder or a Civilian Tricorder? I mean, if it was on the La Sirena it might be a Civilian model and a 10 or 15 year old Civilian model may not be as advanced as a Starfleet model of even that same era.

  • @christenorio9555
    @christenorio9555 4 роки тому +1

    Just 3d-print for cellphone case!

  • @Capronice
    @Capronice 3 роки тому

    Looks like the Razor phone

  • @cdpt107
    @cdpt107 4 роки тому

    Nemesis had the new tricorder that look like a tablet, so where would this come in?

    • @cdpt107
      @cdpt107 4 роки тому +1

      Never mind was half way through when i commented then they brought it up!

  • @brianlocke6561
    @brianlocke6561 4 роки тому

    You always seem to forget that La Sirena is a civilian vessel and not a Star Fleet vessel. After watching Star Trek for so long, it become readily apparent that Federation society is a two tier society where Star Fleet gets the best equipment, the best ships, the newest tricorders and civilians get what Star Fleet doesn't want and what quality the Federation deems is "good enough" for them. The federation is a communist utopia, and as always happens in a communist society, you get a privileged few who "need" better stuff than every one else and who also just so happen to decide what everyone else "needs". The Federation doesn't have money anymore and yet people still are buying things with money in what appears to be an underground capitalist economy.

  • @torjones1701
    @torjones1701 4 роки тому +2

    You're forgetting guys that they don't have a license to use those old tricorders. Anything and everything that they do has to be 25% different to previous.
    In universe, it may also be a civilian model rather than a starfleet model.

    • @PixelatedH2O
      @PixelatedH2O 4 роки тому

      The 25% difference thing was more a creative choice than required. CBS and Paramount merged again anyway so all the right are under the same company.

    • @jamiethomas18
      @jamiethomas18 4 роки тому +1

      @@PixelatedH2O not completely, that merger is still in progress.
      Look at Picard's "new" commbadge it has a rounded edge on the delta, the proper commbadge as seen from First Contact onwards has a thin trim. Clearly a 25% difference to keep the license under Secret Hideout intact.

    • @pitui1987
      @pitui1987 4 роки тому

      Adam Porter This internet rumor was that Bad Robot/Secret Hideout would get merchandising royalties on the “25% different” designs, not Paramount, so the re-merger would not affect such a deal, if it exists.

    • @ronjeffrey8641
      @ronjeffrey8641 4 роки тому

      One of the reasons they are using new designs where ever possible is so that the can put out new licensed merchandise, at least that was the plan before all the merchandising companies pulled out.

  • @ozziemederos
    @ozziemederos 4 роки тому

    Skelton hands

  • @Jarsia
    @Jarsia 4 роки тому

    Nemesis tricorder is the best by far. All the other tricorders just have a handful of fixed buttons. There's no way you could get enough functionality out of that to make it a useful tool. Ultimately this is about the interface rather than the scanners "under the hood". A touchscreen means the entire surface can be used for both display and control, and it's all contextual. You have a million times more functionality as 8-10 fixed buttons and you don't have to squint at a 2x1.5 inch display.

  • @theomimesis
    @theomimesis 4 роки тому

    When I was in middle school Star Trek toys were very popular. All the kids at school knew about Star Trek, and watched the reruns of TOS religiously, but as a middle school teacher today, I can report that none of my students know anything about Star Trek Discovery or Star Trek Picard. There is no new generation (at least at the middle school level) of Star Trek fans.

  • @neophytealpha
    @neophytealpha 4 роки тому

    Far far future, quadcorder... ;)

  • @CaptainSnackbar
    @CaptainSnackbar 4 роки тому +4

    its funny that they call the Borg cube a relic, when this show is going to be named a relic when it gets canceled

    • @PixelatedH2O
      @PixelatedH2O 4 роки тому

      It won't get cancelled. It will just end.

    • @pitui1987
      @pitui1987 4 роки тому

      And they will say it was always envisioned as a two-season limited series, and was never intended to have gone on longer than that, in deference to Sir Patrick’s advanced age.

    • @ronjeffrey8641
      @ronjeffrey8641 4 роки тому

      This will she like a polyester leisure suit and a pair of platform shows. And I'm a few years people who love it now won't even remember it. Or admit to watching it.

  • @mokol0k031
    @mokol0k031 4 роки тому

    McFarlane pulled out of making anything because of the lack of interest after st09

  • @johnballard5547
    @johnballard5547 3 роки тому

    🙂👍🏽🖖🏽📽

  • @Thorndac1
    @Thorndac1 4 роки тому +1

    Bet it's an actress that isn't science fictiony inclined. 😂

  • @theomimesis
    @theomimesis 4 роки тому

    I just don't get the love for holographic displays on Picard and Discovery. No real buttons or tactile pads would be harder to use than a tactile pad or console that gives your fingers real sensations.

    • @trekboy02
      @trekboy02 4 роки тому

      This is Deep Space Nines fault. When they were in the future they mentioned wondering how they ever got along without holographic displays. If Picard did not have them, everyone would be complaining about why no holographic displays.

  • @mouie5
    @mouie5 4 роки тому +1

    The commander cant talk english.

  • @90lancaster
    @90lancaster 4 роки тому

    I do think it would be nice to have some props but they might have to be very limited art pieces costing hundreds of dollars, as the production runs would be pretty small - Macfarlane toys couldn't even get enough orders to make it worth their while producing Discovery props & they are still ultra reluctant to release things for that show.
    When you alienate your core audience the number of people left who are rich enough or completest enough isn't an ideal number for mass production, even Star Wars has discovered this much. It was pretty difficult to get anything Voyager/Ds9/Enterprise related in the way of props anyway so that was a hard enough sell everything since Beyond seems to be such diminishing returns that I can't see much happening for Picard beyond what Discovery already gets which is Eaglemoss models and a little bit of minor additional stuff like com badges.
    But to be honest what I always say about Star Wars applies here too - make cool stuff and have it doing cool stuff (i.e. show it off properly) then people will buy it - have less cool stuff doing stupid things or nothing of consequence and people are less likely to show an interest in spending money on it. Picard is a show with a dystopian mean spirited vision with repeated murders and bad language, and even something like The Walking Dead sold more comic related toys than it did TV show ones (which is a show with many of the same problems Picard has).
    I can't see Picard toys in a Walmart anytime soon unless the show changes dramatically for the better in it's second season, and as some have pointed out - this is the "fixed" version of the show. I don't think licensees are going to be beating CBS's door down on this one - more running away screaming perhaps.