People always say “Honda has outdated technology this & that.”. It just makes me laugh, cause anybody that has owned a Honda ATV knows how bulletproof their reliability is. My father has a 2000 Honda Foreman & I have a 2007 Rincon. Neither quad has seen a wrench in their lives.
That would break the internet... and I'm all for it! That would be a game changer for Honda to release a 100 horsepower ATV with all of the bells and whistles! It would also cost about $15,000 but who cares lol.
@@HondaProKevin that’s right who’s cares I know i wouldn’t it’d put a smile on my face to see one come out and I would happily pay it too specially knowing it’ll have that Honda reliability Honda’s are bullet proof I know that have family that still has the old atcs from the early and late 80s running perfect with no oil leaks or anything and I’ve had a lot myself and never had no problems with them well I had 2 Honda’s over the years that I had a lot of problems with one was a 86 350 Fourtrax and the other was a 82 200 big red the one that was chain drive with high and low no reverse but that was just bad luck buying them from the wrong owners that didn’t keep up on maintenance and didn’t really do a good job when they did any maintenance
@@scottmugford1123 one of the reasons Honda’s are reliable are because they don’t make a hundreds horsepower. They would have to beef every part of the machine up axles diffs trans to get it close to strong enough. With that being said I would also happily buy one!
I own a Rincon. If it used exclusively on my trapline in North Western Ontario, Canada. I can honestly tell you that this bike is an absolute workhorse that has never let me down. Regarding a front locking differential, I have never been in a situation where I needed it. I have 11,000 km on mine and still runs like new. The 3 speed transmission is bulletproof.
Hondas are way behind the other ATV manufacturers especially in horsepower and features I give Honda credit for its engines and transmissions but that's really about all
@@HondaProKevin Yep. Needs the 5 speed plus low range. Also needs to move up to a true 26" tire and offer the alloy rims from the rubicons. My 2020 rubicon's 25" stock tires measures a measly 24" tall. And for gods sake don't electronically speed limit them.
Holy Cow Honda! Update this thing already! Would love to see it with all the options of the Rubicon. Or a Rubi with the option of a bigger engine please! One or the other, but get with it already!
I've got a 16' 680. Pros- -Plenty of power, never got stuck w/o the locking differential, but i don't go thru 2' deep mud..... -Steering is easy- you wouldn't know it isn't power steering. -Starts and runs every time. -It'll haul hundreds of pounds in a small trailer effortlessly Cons- -Either a 4 speed or lower 1st gearing. As a putterer on the ranch, I don't need to go 20+ MPH in low gear. -The battery mounts in the rear fender well- weird! Tho in a 2 piece plastic enclosure, I worry about water exposure, not to mention having to hunker down to reach in for battery access. -Could use more aggresive tread on the stock tires. -Count on doing basic (it's easy!) maintenance yourself. The dealers here in California are far and few between and our local dealer is squirrely and can't find good mechanics. Independent mechanics don't like the space the quads take up in their shops. Our Hondas only need oil changes and air filters. They just run and run. Keep a gas stabilizer in the atv's unless you use them enought to be added gas occasionally, as the ethanol in gas goes bad so quickly. Upgrades- I added aux. LED lighting bar, a hitch receiver, and cargo baskets, front and rear. What a shame these aren't street legal for grocery and feed store runs!
What do you guys think about the Rincon? Is it still worth its $9,499 MSRP or would you rather go with one of the other Rubicon, Foreman or Rancher ATV models?
@@NelsonCreekCustoms no trust me I had my rincon 680 sence it came out an it’s still runs better then my friends new Forman an I have put my quad through hell an back
I bought a 2013 Rancher new, and a 2019 Rubicon new. Both are great. My issue is that my 12 year old son will whip the Rubicons ass on his Yamaha Kodiak 450. I bought a Polaris Sportsman XP 1000 to remedy that but I would rather ride a 1000cc Honda. Come on Honda, step up your game. Put a Talon engine in an ATV.
10 more, more like 30 more lol. Just detune the pioneer 1000 engine down to about 65 hp, give it a real 6 speed dct auto with es option, power steering and decent suspension travel and you’d have a great machine. In other words, completely scrap the platform and build something new Honda.
My Rincon was like riding a run away train when going down hills. Ive always liked Hondas but I had to switch to the Kodiak. And I haven’t been disappointed. The engine brake is such an improvement.
The problem with that Yamaha Kodiak is that it's a automatic transmission and I can't do automatic. It's like a winding rubber band. And it sounds awful. Not to mention it takes away the fun Factor. When I grew up as a child we had a three wheeler with a 5-speed and it was a blast to drive but automatic transmissions are not fun. They need to offer the Rincon with a 5-speed foot shift or a 5-speed DCT. And also offer an option without power steering That automatic needs to be thrown in the garbage
As for the rubicon workhorse (my pick) the racks need brackets for carrying lumber and trailer options maybe. Rincon twin cyl. should have dif lock & hitch & suspension settings.
Funny cars and top fuel dragsters are moved from staging to the drag strip with a Honda rincon ! They only use Rincons ! That should speak for their towing abilities .
lol oh yeah, almost all of them will tow well more than their rating. They just have to put those numbers so Karen doesn't hook up 3,000lbs and then expect to stop it while doing 60mph down a massive mountain lol!
I have always liked the rincon but when it came down to it, the Rubicon had the features I wanted (foot shift and diff lock). Hoping Honda adds a diff lock to the Rincon, as I'd love to have some options when it's time to purchase another Honda.
You hit the nail on the head and that's why so many people are going with the Rubicon over the Rincon lately. The Rincon is still a great unit and ticks a lot of boxes for many people but it's not the "flagship" unit that it used to be.
@@HondaProKevin truthfully, I have really come to appreciate what the Rubicon is capable of. My first atv was a 2004 foreman. I've had several other atvs and SxSs since but the foreman/rubicon is where I've had the most fun. My Honda wish list:. Rincon with a front locker and foot shift option. If that doesn't happen, my only other wish/hope is that they don't get rid of the foot shift option on the Rubicon/Foreman line.
Its just like the XR650, DR650, DRZ400, etc., in the moto world. I guess the philosophy if it aint broke dont fix it. Im thinking spending money on engineering a new model is the issue for them. The majority of buying a new fourwheeler either judt want a reliable work horse like a honda, or a powerhouse of a machine like a canam. Im thinking honda cant justify engineering a bigger than 500cc four-wheeler when their other models will sell more.
Exactly. It was something special 20 years ago when it was released but after not having any real updates aside from a couple years after its introduction, it has become a little outdated.
With a low gear for mountain crawling?? It would be a beast!!! Ohhhh yess! The only downfall I have with mine is you gotta ride those brakes coming off these Appalachian mountains!
PLEASE! get them to update the Rincon! It will be over 20 years old before they get to it. I NEED to update my Rincon but don't see any reason to buy a Rincon that is the same as the first one 20 years ago. The Rincon is my farm workhorse so these are REAL needs: My list is: 1- Power steering - turning at low speed and weight on machine and/or in technical terrain, Power steering is a must! 2- Low range - 3- New engine design and layout - An 850 cc would be good and make one that allows for easier cam chain adjustment. 4- Other general updates and features that add comfort and accessories. I DONT want to go to a CVT brand but may have to go to a Yamaha to get something that is new. Ya, Polaris and Can Am have great accessories but, I want durability too! If you have ANY pull with Honda, Please get them to update this thing!
I agree with another post here. Honda definitely needs to step it up with their welding quality. I had a 450 Foreman ES and some of the welds on the frame (especially on the underside of the machine) gave me the proverbial “pucker factor” when I was riding on bumpy roads and trails. I love Hondas, but before I invest in another one I definitely plan on looking at every weld, prior to signing any paperwork. I highly recommend anyone else doing the same thing. Don’t be afraid to tilt the machine an get a good look.
I have always had Honda ATVS back years ago and they were bulletproof but have since went to a UTV but now I want to buy another atv to have for small jobs but have not kept up with new Honda atv models. I am considering Honda again but Rincon not having eps is deal breaker. I think I'll look at a Rubicon or Yamaha Kodiak. Thanks for review.
Oh yeah, more and more people these days have been going the UTV route. That's why we're seeing so many ATV models phased out. Most definitely, EPS can be a big deal breaker as once you experience one with it - it's extremely hard not to buy one with it. Especially when it comes to massive ATVs like these. Yeah, check out the Rubicon and Foreman too - depending on what features you have to have, it might save you some money. If you have any questions on them in the future just let me know. Thank you for posting "thanks", I really appreciate it!
Nice! It's pretty common to see a Rincon owner actually have more than one of them in the stable. Their owners usually love them to death but we're getting to the point to where a lot of them would really need to see some major updates before they upgrade to a new Rincon.
I have emailed Honda a couple times requesting/asking for an updated Rincon. I also ask the sales guys at my local Honda dealership about possible upgrades. I ride in a group with six other guys and five of them have Rincons. A few had Polaris quads in the past but wanted a more reliable machine.
I have a 2007 Honda Rincon camouflage color that I purchased new. I think I paid $7k. Still have it. It's been reliable, starts every time, never left me stranded. Very little maintenance cost in 16 years that I've owned it. I wish it did have power steering and a headlight. Probably the only things I wish it had. If it had those two things I'd buy another one; otherwise, I'm looking at a different Honda model and/or a different manufacturer.
I have a 2005 Honda rincon GREAT FOUR WHEELER i mean take it through a mud hole it doesn’t even take 4wd great speed mine has the auto shift or the electric shift which I wasn’t too crazy about but I really like it it’s a perfect four wheeler for utility,trails,mudding,yard work all the above just a great four wheeler.
They could simply detune the 1000 engine a bit down to about 65 hp. Would need a new chassis. A 2up model would be great too. Honda should make a smaller sport utv as well. The talon is great but it’s too big for tighter trails. The pioneer 500 is slightly faster than a tractor lol.
I had one. So many other options that are more fun and comfortable to ride. But as far as workhorses, Honda gear on gear is most reliable and lasts forever if you treat it right.
The rincon trans never made sense though. They tried to outsmart themselves and it flopped. Needed 5 speed instead of 3 and was underpowered from day one. The can am outlander 500 has more power and they don’t even make it anymore lol.
I have a 2009 680. It has never missed a beat besides oil changes. I recently towed my can am commander out of the bush with it because it piled up. Literally the most reliable quad I have ever had.
I love Honda four wheelers, I just sold my 2004 recon 250 and wanted to get something bigger to keep up with the family , couldn’t afford a can am, didn’t care for Polaris, I was looking really hard at a rincon 680 but I just couldn’t justify $9500 for it, ended up putting a deposit down on a base model kodiak 700 for $2300 less, maybe down the road I’ll look around for a rincon
I own a 2021 rincon 680 and I’m looking a putting a bison front bumper on it , but it says that the bumper only fits up to a 2016 model , are there any body style changes to the rincon that would keep this bumper from fitting ?
do you think the Rincon will ever get a full redesign so its more up to par with the foreman. i cant imagine that they make much off of these and an update would defiantly help with it..
Daniel hit the nail on the head, if you're looking for an ATV for the rancher then I would look into a Rancher, Foreman or Rubicon model over the Rincon.
Sorry for that I don't know what's wrong with Honda at least put power steering on the unit ideally they needed to 2 UPS in that size with power steering
Nos urge un cambio, ya tiene 17 años que salió a la venta y nunca cambió de diseño, urge que ya salga a la venta una Rincon 1000 cc Se quedó pequeña en comparación del Can Am y Polaris 1000 cc
When honda finally decides to catch up & make a 1k atv then I'll decide 2 buy one but for now they all pretty much the same year after year only few different things
Fingers crossed we see Honda step it up soon and throw the Pioneer / Talon engine and DCT setup in the Rincon plus a lot more. We can dream... right? lol!
Honda needs a upgrade to the rincon.800-1000 cc, power steering, hi/low trans, diff lock. 28” stock tires , composite racks with a system to install boxes etc....
"it's hard to kill a Honda". I grew up on TRX 250x's back in the 90's and fell in love with Honda reliability. Now I'm looking for an ATV that will be suited for mostly work on the farm, dragging a trailer, and some trail cruising. I don't need an insane off-road speed demon just looking for a general workhorse that is reliable and has some features. It's odd to me that Honda has their 'highest spec' utility ATV - the Rincon, that has less features than the other utility ATV's. Perhaps I'm missing something, but the Rincon doesn't even have a place for a ball/hitch or diff locks... seems the Foreman Rubicon has more features. What am I missing?
100%! I figured we would have already seen the Rincon with the Pioneer 1000's engine by now since that rolled out in 2016 and Honda has used that engine now on so many different models. The Rincon is past due for a new engine with at least 70-80+ horsepower, DCT, diff lock, EPS among other updates...
@@freedomlawnservice1987 Go buy A Polaris then. Just make sure you sell it for 50% of what you paid every 2-3 years before it starts breaking down. hehehe
Oh really? Talk about a small world lol! No sir, I'm not working at Southern Honda Powersports but they are helping me continue on the dream of getting to do what I love for a living and call it "work" haha. I'll be by there on a regular basis filming these videos etc for UA-cam, my blog over at www.HondaProKevin.com and the usual Facebook, Instagram etc. Long story short ;)
Thanks for posting up! It's hard not to pick the Rubicon over the Rincon, unless all you want is horsepower and you're willing to lose out on a lot of features JUST to have that extra horsepower. It'd be one thing if we were doubling the horsepower but we're not, it's Honda we are talking about here lol. The Rubicon just ticks too many boxes that the Rincon can't, it's still a great ATV but it's stuck in the last decade...
They may surprise me but I don't think we'll see that any time soon as there hasn't been anything trickling down to hint at it. They need to though, it's a market that isn't capitalized on enough.
This needs to be offered in a dual-clutch 5-speed or foot shift five-speed and without power steering. I never had power steering growing up on three wheelers or four-wheelers and to me it's just something expensive to break and have to pay money to get fixed.
Compared to the yamaha 700 grizzly it isnt very good. I had one and love hondas but the rincon is very disappointing! Would like to see power steering and more power. 3 speed tranny is not good either
I like your thinking and 100% on the color options too as Honda has been lacking in that department for a while. They've been playing with some new and different color options the last couple of years though and I'll give them credit for that but it's few and far between.
The rancher models is what I'm talking about I'm looking into buying one possibly can't beat them they just need to double the cc and all disk brakes led lights
On the Rancher, if you go with a straight axle model then you're going to have a drum in the rear but if you go with an IRS model then it will have a disc brake in the rear to match the fronts.
That's almost 10K dude, seriously? I've got an 06' 680 that I bought new in 06'. Good Farm/Ranch bike but won't turn The bigger tires for mudding unless you start putting big bore kits, gear reductions, axles, etc. I would rather spend the extra coin on something ready to rock such as Can-Am or Polaris. The bike was 7K back then and the only thing that has changed now is it has become 3K more valuable? I don't think so. It seems Honda wants to cater to the Rich & Elite people. A Working Man don't stand a chance. You disappoint me Honda!
I wouldn't call it a $10,000 red turd but I get what you're saying lol. Sadly everything's price has went up over the years but at least with the other models they had some upgrades thrown in the mix whereas the Rincon is still the same unit. One thing we do have to keep in mind though, that's the MSRP and 99% of the time you can buy them well below that. Well, when prices aren't inflated because of the corona mess lol. But up until last year, even though their MSRP was $9,499 you could regularly buy them in the $7-8,000'ish range when they had rebates etc. It doesn't seem like it was that long ago that people thought $15k was a lot for a side by side and now we have people lined up to pay $25k and up for one lol, crazy times!
Compared to other machines that even cost less, it falls short. Crappy suspension, no diff lock, no power steering, no real low range and not enough power. Add the puzzling transmission that nobody has ever liked and you get an atv that most dealers probably refuse to put on the sales floor because it won’t sell.
They need to offer this in a 5 speed footshift or 6 speed foot.. And they need to offer a big bore package. Like 90 hp 6 speed foot shift. To compete with the x m r 1000 renegade. I hate the automatic transmission that x m r one thousand has. It needs .a manual
I have had both the 520 and the 680...the 680 is an unbelievable bike.. I would take the 680 any day.. what honda needs to do is make a big bike with power steering and lock dif .......I have tracks on the 680....best bike I have ever had. Come on honda. We need the Rincon to be everything. The look of the Rincon compared to the rubicon way better even yrs later. Come on honda get with the program and give us a big four wheeler with best utility and sport trail. U got it so produce it. The 520 look like shit and is no where near the trail bike as the Rincon is. 800 honda Rincon with power steering and lock diff with all the trimmings. I will take two please. This comes from a guy that has everything honda in my shop..
I say leave it mostly alone it's unique and a time capsule. Upgrade another model. My main gripe would be the price on an old tech ATV. I wish yamaha had the same old banshee stilll in their line up.
Hopefully we'll see Honda drop the Pioneer 1000 engine in their soon with a DCT and some chassis updates to really bring this unit to where it needs to be in today's market!
Marginally better reliability and build quality in exchange for completely outdated technology and abysmal performance. I’ll take the Polaris or Can-am please!
Yamaha is just as reliable and a Kodak 700 will blow this away on performance. You can buy a Kodak 700 and a utility trailer to haul it for less than a new rincon.
Honda is becoming irrelevant for anything over 500cc. This Rincon would be great with diff lock, proper lighting, and many other options that all other manufacturers have. How can you NOT have power steering + EBS in this day and age??!
2021 rancher>2021 rincon 2021 foreman>2021 rincon 2021rubicon>2021 rincon 2021 rincon=2006 rincon they are literally the same quad and 15 year difference if ya want a rincon buy it used off market place for 4k instead of 9.5 k lmao
It's hard to say with Yamaha as I'm not as ingrained in their business like I am with Honda. Just being honest with you, it'd be nothing more than a guess for ole Blue lol ;)
Trail Blazer ATV that would be a great choice. Even the Honda shadows 750 vtwin would be great. Honda made a 700xx sport quad years ago, it was 700cc single with about 50 hp. That would put it about equal with grizzly 700 and king quad 750.
seems all the feedback ive heard on this model is mostly negative...i didnt research it much because its not offered anymore by honda so...i guess it flopped!!! i do like the rubicon 520 with all the options even if many people say to get the footshift...id pick the dct...yes im getting old and picky lol..so the 2024 rubicon is what im planning to get next spring...it should be my last atv as their reliability history dictates they just keep going and going...and thats the best and only reason i need to get a Honda!...and well... i like Honda...everything they make is known for reliability so why Not?? if they would not be available id go for Yamaha Grizzly 700 with the 10yr belt warranty,,,,nobody else dares offer that,,,and that should mean something!
@@doc559 lol yes sir! Heck yeah, that's awesome! I picked up a QA-50 about 10 years ago to restore, those are cool and different little bikes! It's wild how far they've come over the years...
Honda's seem so expensive but very few options and weak. I just have an 83 big red that starts every time so I'm kind of forced to buy a Honda after owning one for 20 years with no problems.
Those things need to be retired and put out to pasture. They're dangerous in my opinion. I've ridden several. No power steering sucks, but if you're going down a steep hill all the weight shifts forward and the steering almost locks up plus it's really twitchy and handles just awful. But hey, it's reliable.
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People always say “Honda has outdated technology this & that.”. It just makes me laugh, cause anybody that has owned a Honda ATV knows how bulletproof their reliability is. My father has a 2000 Honda Foreman & I have a 2007 Rincon. Neither quad has seen a wrench in their lives.
It's kinda crazy that it don't have power steering like the old ones
I want to see a 1000 rubicon with a hundred horsepower locking front diff and foot shift mud edition with factory snorkel
That would break the internet... and I'm all for it! That would be a game changer for Honda to release a 100 horsepower ATV with all of the bells and whistles! It would also cost about $15,000 but who cares lol.
@@HondaProKevin Honda should do it there would be no can am that could go through what it would specially where Honda don’t use belts for a drivetrain
totally wrong manufacture for those specs..........................
@@HondaProKevin that’s right who’s cares I know i wouldn’t it’d put a smile on my face to see one come out and I would happily pay it too specially knowing it’ll have that Honda reliability Honda’s are bullet proof I know that have family that still has the old atcs from the early and late 80s running perfect with no oil leaks or anything and I’ve had a lot myself and never had no problems with them well I had 2 Honda’s over the years that I had a lot of problems with one was a 86 350 Fourtrax and the other was a 82 200 big red the one that was chain drive with high and low no reverse but that was just bad luck buying them from the wrong owners that didn’t keep up on maintenance and didn’t really do a good job when they did any maintenance
@@scottmugford1123 one of the reasons Honda’s are reliable are because they don’t make a hundreds horsepower. They would have to beef every part of the machine up axles diffs trans to get it close to strong enough. With that being said I would also happily buy one!
I own a Rincon. If it used exclusively on my trapline in North Western Ontario, Canada. I can honestly tell you that this bike is an absolute workhorse that has never let me down. Regarding a front locking differential, I have never been in a situation where I needed it. I have 11,000 km on mine and still runs like new. The 3 speed transmission is bulletproof.
We need a massive up grade. The 680 hasn't changed in years. I got a 06 in natural gear camo. The 680 is the Nissan Frontier of 4 wheelers.
lol the reference cracked me up! Thankfully we're not too far off from seeing some upgrades come her way ;)
Don’t insult a Nissan Frontier like that, it’s the only reliable thing Nissan makes lol.
Hondas are way behind the other ATV manufacturers especially in horsepower and features I give Honda credit for its engines and transmissions but that's really about all
Bump it up to a 720 add power steering and diff-lock..id buy one
Pair those changes up with a DCT too and I think a ton of people would be lined up with you to buy one!
@@HondaProKevin Yep. Needs the 5 speed plus low range. Also needs to move up to a true 26" tire and offer the alloy rims from the rubicons. My 2020 rubicon's 25" stock tires measures a measly 24" tall. And for gods sake don't electronically speed limit them.
@@HondaProKevin I would be lined up to buy one if they made those changes
I would be lined up to buy one if they made those changes
Honda has been number one and needs to step a few things up to stay competitive!
Holy Cow Honda! Update this thing already! Would love to see it with all the options of the Rubicon. Or a Rubi with the option of a bigger engine please! One or the other, but get with it already!
lol 100%!
I've got a 16' 680.
Pros-
-Plenty of power, never got stuck w/o the locking differential, but i don't go thru 2' deep mud.....
-Steering is easy- you wouldn't know it isn't power steering.
-Starts and runs every time.
-It'll haul hundreds of pounds in a small trailer effortlessly
Cons-
-Either a 4 speed or lower 1st gearing. As a putterer on the ranch, I don't need to go 20+ MPH in low gear.
-The battery mounts in the rear fender well- weird! Tho in a 2 piece plastic enclosure, I worry about water exposure, not to mention having to hunker down to reach in for battery access.
-Could use more aggresive tread on the stock tires.
-Count on doing basic (it's easy!) maintenance yourself. The dealers here in California are far and few between and our local dealer is squirrely and can't find good mechanics. Independent mechanics don't like the space the quads take up in their shops. Our Hondas only need oil changes and air filters. They just run and run. Keep a gas stabilizer in the atv's unless you use them enought to be added gas occasionally, as the ethanol in gas goes bad so quickly.
Upgrades-
I added aux. LED lighting bar, a hitch receiver, and cargo baskets, front and rear.
What a shame these aren't street legal for grocery and feed store runs!
What do you guys think about the Rincon? Is it still worth its $9,499 MSRP or would you rather go with one of the other Rubicon, Foreman or Rancher ATV models?
I wouldn’t buy a Rincon if it was priced lower then a rubicon
Rubicon is the better bike
Rubicon is Honda’s best bike. Streamlined with the Rancher. Give the Rubicon more power
I would go with Can Am for trail fun and competition. Honda is good for work on farms.
@@NelsonCreekCustoms no trust me I had my rincon 680 sence it came out an it’s still runs better then my friends new Forman an I have put my quad through hell an back
I bought a 2013 Rancher new, and a 2019 Rubicon new. Both are great. My issue is that my 12 year old son will whip the Rubicons ass on his Yamaha Kodiak 450. I bought a Polaris Sportsman XP 1000 to remedy that but I would rather ride a 1000cc Honda. Come on Honda, step up your game. Put a Talon engine in an ATV.
Needs a 5 speed and 10 more horsepower. I’d gladly buy another one. Love my 2013. Bought it new.
10 more, more like 30 more lol. Just detune the pioneer 1000 engine down to about 65 hp, give it a real 6 speed dct auto with es option, power steering and decent suspension travel and you’d have a great machine. In other words, completely scrap the platform and build something new Honda.
My Rincon was like riding a run away train when going down hills. Ive always liked Hondas but I had to switch to the Kodiak. And I haven’t been disappointed. The engine brake is such an improvement.
Oh yeah, that's definitely one of the Rincon's downfalls. Glad to hear you're enjoying the Kodiak bud!
The problem with that Yamaha Kodiak is that it's a automatic transmission and I can't do automatic. It's like a winding rubber band. And it sounds awful. Not to mention it takes away the fun Factor. When I grew up as a child we had a three wheeler with a 5-speed and it was a blast to drive but automatic transmissions are not fun. They need to offer the Rincon with a 5-speed foot shift or a 5-speed DCT. And also offer an option without power steering That automatic needs to be thrown in the garbage
It's just Gorgeous. I always wanted one but no Power steering or engine breaking
Oh yeah, no EPS in 2021 can be a deal breaker for a lot of people.
@@HondaProKevin Yes it is. I might go King Quad or Brute
@@HondaProKevin I didn’t have power steering on my rancher nor on my 400x. I guess you don’t miss what you never had.
As for the rubicon workhorse (my pick) the racks need brackets for carrying lumber and trailer options maybe. Rincon twin cyl. should have dif lock & hitch & suspension settings.
Maybe, just maybe that twin-cylinder Rincon isn't too far out there...
If it aint broke dont fix it. Theres a reason it hasnt had major updates since 06 these things work.
Yes sir!
I had 6,000 pounds on my rincon 650 and it pulled it just fine
Oh yeah, you can pull a lot more than what's recommended or should we say "not recommended" when it comes to the Rincon lol.
Funny cars and top fuel dragsters are moved from staging to the drag strip with a Honda rincon ! They only use Rincons ! That should speak for their towing abilities .
eps and a light 3rd light on the bars with tow package
Tow capacity well I towed a almost 3,000 lb camper in the sand with a 2019 king quad 500 it was only a couple hundred feet but it did it.
lol oh yeah, almost all of them will tow well more than their rating. They just have to put those numbers so Karen doesn't hook up 3,000lbs and then expect to stop it while doing 60mph down a massive mountain lol!
Rincon should come out as a two up with a twin cylinder and power steering and with the Honda-matic transmission, It would sell like hot cakes.
100%!
Great video. I own a 2021 Foreman 520 now and need a second ATV so I'm comparing. Your video makes comparing easy. Thanks!
I have always liked the rincon but when it came down to it, the Rubicon had the features I wanted (foot shift and diff lock). Hoping Honda adds a diff lock to the Rincon, as I'd love to have some options when it's time to purchase another Honda.
Agree
You hit the nail on the head and that's why so many people are going with the Rubicon over the Rincon lately. The Rincon is still a great unit and ticks a lot of boxes for many people but it's not the "flagship" unit that it used to be.
@@HondaProKevin truthfully, I have really come to appreciate what the Rubicon is capable of. My first atv was a 2004 foreman. I've had several other atvs and SxSs since but the foreman/rubicon is where I've had the most fun.
My Honda wish list:. Rincon with a front locker and foot shift option. If that doesn't happen, my only other wish/hope is that they don't get rid of the foot shift option on the Rubicon/Foreman line.
Its just like the XR650, DR650, DRZ400, etc., in the moto world. I guess the philosophy if it aint broke dont fix it. Im thinking spending money on engineering a new model is the issue for them. The majority of buying a new fourwheeler either judt want a reliable work horse like a honda, or a powerhouse of a machine like a canam. Im thinking honda cant justify engineering a bigger than 500cc four-wheeler when their other models will sell more.
@@markkettering9851 I Agree 1000 %
The honda rincon is easily one of greatest atvs ever built. The problem tho is it's just outdated
Exactly. It was something special 20 years ago when it was released but after not having any real updates aside from a couple years after its introduction, it has become a little outdated.
@@HondaProKevin and I believe the rincon has incredible potential today if Honda decides to update it.
With a low gear for mountain crawling?? It would be a beast!!! Ohhhh yess! The only downfall I have with mine is you gotta ride those brakes coming off these Appalachian mountains!
PLEASE! get them to update the Rincon! It will be over 20 years old before they get to it. I NEED to update my Rincon but don't see any reason to buy a Rincon that is the same as the first one 20 years ago. The Rincon is my farm workhorse so these are REAL needs: My list is:
1- Power steering - turning at low speed and weight on machine and/or in technical terrain, Power steering is a must!
2- Low range -
3- New engine design and layout - An 850 cc would be good and make one that allows for easier cam chain adjustment.
4- Other general updates and features that add comfort and accessories.
I DONT want to go to a CVT brand but may have to go to a Yamaha to get something that is new. Ya, Polaris and Can Am have great accessories but, I want durability too! If you have ANY pull with Honda, Please get them to update this thing!
I agree with another post here. Honda definitely needs to step it up with their welding quality. I had a 450 Foreman ES and some of the welds on the frame (especially on the underside of the machine) gave me the proverbial “pucker factor” when I was riding on bumpy roads and trails. I love Hondas, but before I invest in another one I definitely plan on looking at every weld, prior to signing any paperwork. I highly recommend anyone else doing the same thing. Don’t be afraid to tilt the machine an get a good look.
I’d love a Rincon but i wish they would’ve upgraded the look and give more options similar to the Rubicon models.
the welds are deplorable especially at the level of the luggage racks, it's a shame for such a beautiful machine😕
I have always had Honda ATVS back years ago and they were bulletproof but have since went to a UTV but now I want to buy another atv to have for small jobs but have not kept up with new Honda atv models. I am considering Honda again but Rincon not having eps is deal breaker. I think I'll look at a Rubicon or Yamaha Kodiak. Thanks for review.
Oh yeah, more and more people these days have been going the UTV route. That's why we're seeing so many ATV models phased out.
Most definitely, EPS can be a big deal breaker as once you experience one with it - it's extremely hard not to buy one with it. Especially when it comes to massive ATVs like these. Yeah, check out the Rubicon and Foreman too - depending on what features you have to have, it might save you some money. If you have any questions on them in the future just let me know.
Thank you for posting "thanks", I really appreciate it!
HONDA, PLEASE UPDATE THE RINCON!
Yes please, way over do.
I’ve got two Rincons and enjoy them but would love a few new features.
We need to get a petition started lol!
Nice! It's pretty common to see a Rincon owner actually have more than one of them in the stable. Their owners usually love them to death but we're getting to the point to where a lot of them would really need to see some major updates before they upgrade to a new Rincon.
I have emailed Honda a couple times requesting/asking for an updated Rincon. I also ask the sales guys at my local Honda dealership about possible upgrades. I ride in a group with six other guys and five of them have Rincons. A few had Polaris quads in the past but wanted a more reliable machine.
I have a 2007 Honda Rincon camouflage color that I purchased new. I think I paid $7k. Still have it. It's been reliable, starts every time, never left me stranded. Very little maintenance cost in 16 years that I've owned it. I wish it did have power steering and a headlight. Probably the only things I wish it had. If it had those two things I'd buy another one; otherwise, I'm looking at a different Honda model and/or a different manufacturer.
Needs a foot shift trans, power steering, and a locking front diff.
I have a 2005 Honda rincon GREAT FOUR WHEELER i mean take it through a mud hole it doesn’t even take 4wd great speed mine has the auto shift or the electric shift which I wasn’t too crazy about but I really like it it’s a perfect four wheeler for utility,trails,mudding,yard work all the above just a great four wheeler.
I what to see Honda make a 700 or at 800 mud ready quad and I think there are a lot more people that can agree
100%! A Rincon with 50-60+ horsepower, diff lock, DCT etc and it'd sell like hot cakes.
No Honda needs to up there game a lot and start with the 700 and 800s and then 1000 mud ready with foot shift that’s got 100 hp stock
They could simply detune the 1000 engine a bit down to about 65 hp. Would need a new chassis. A 2up model would be great too. Honda should make a smaller sport utv as well. The talon is great but it’s too big for tighter trails. The pioneer 500 is slightly faster than a tractor lol.
I had one. So many other options that are more fun and comfortable to ride. But as far as workhorses, Honda gear on gear is most reliable and lasts forever if you treat it right.
The rincon trans never made sense though. They tried to outsmart themselves and it flopped. Needed 5 speed instead of 3 and was underpowered from day one. The can am outlander 500 has more power and they don’t even make it anymore lol.
@@gregrowe1168 Same with the 450’s from Can-Am...
I might think about trading my 2013 Honda Rancher 420 4x4 for the Rincon. My old Honda ran great with no problems
Another great review. Thank you!
Thank you Ken, I really appreciate the kind words and support...
I have a 2009 680. It has never missed a beat besides oil changes. I recently towed my can am commander out of the bush with it because it piled up. Literally the most reliable quad I have ever had.
You can add the diff lock and power steering from aftermarket
Do they normally have a ton of toe out? Mine is brand new and it’s gotta have at least 1.5-2” of toe out in the front
No diff, no PS, no engine breaking is a deal breaker
Oh yeah, those features are rather high up there on the necessity list for a lot of people.
i have a green 05 Gscape model
still runs good and pretty fast
I'd like to see an 850 with at least 78hp an a locking front diff with power steering. Up the tires to 27's on 14" wheels
A gear reduction like the BRGR kit would be really nice, I think that’s the Rincon‘s only downfall
I'm glad You mentioned that it does not have a differential lock. That is a deal breaker for me..
I love Honda four wheelers, I just sold my 2004 recon 250 and wanted to get something bigger to keep up with the family , couldn’t afford a can am, didn’t care for Polaris, I was looking really hard at a rincon 680 but I just couldn’t justify $9500 for it, ended up putting a deposit down on a base model kodiak 700 for $2300 less, maybe down the road I’ll look around for a rincon
Heck yeah, congrats on the Kodiak 700!
I own a 2021 rincon 680 and I’m looking a putting a bison front bumper on it , but it says that the bumper only fits up to a 2016 model , are there any body style changes to the rincon that would keep this bumper from fitting ?
You're all good to go, no changes and it'll fit ;)
Definitely need to change the rincon I want to see power to keep up with can-am
100%! It's way past due...
do you think the Rincon will ever get a full redesign so its more up to par with the foreman. i cant imagine that they make much off of these and an update would defiantly help with it..
I have the 2019 model which I am very happy with.
Pure info awesome. Thx.
future Rincon needs high n lower range. would have huge difference
Honda needs to bring out twin cylinder fourth wheeler models on some of there line ups or new line up
Jesus Honda update this damn thing!
Do it!
I've got one of these on the ranch and it's not a work quad. Shur wish they would have put lower gears on this. Only good for joy riding.
Thanks for your comment cause I'm looking to buy Honda atv for the ranch and think I'll look at Rubicon.
Daniel hit the nail on the head, if you're looking for an ATV for the rancher then I would look into a Rancher, Foreman or Rubicon model over the Rincon.
@@HondaProKevin I'll be looking into a foreman, and interested to tryout the power stearing. Thanks partner.
Sorry for that I don't know what's wrong with Honda at least put power steering on the unit ideally they needed to 2 UPS in that size with power steering
Nos urge un cambio, ya tiene 17 años que salió a la venta y nunca cambió de diseño, urge que ya salga a la venta una Rincon 1000 cc
Se quedó pequeña en comparación del Can Am y Polaris 1000 cc
Tienes razón, amigo, ¡ya es hora de que Honda mejore el Rincón para competir!
When honda finally decides to catch up & make a 1k atv then I'll decide 2 buy one but for now they all pretty much the same year after year only few different things
Exactly, boring lineup that doesn’t excite anyone to buy one for recreational use at all.
Fingers crossed we see Honda step it up soon and throw the Pioneer / Talon engine and DCT setup in the Rincon plus a lot more. We can dream... right? lol!
I wish they made a rincon foot shift so it will be good for mud and water
Honda needs a upgrade to the rincon.800-1000 cc, power steering, hi/low trans, diff lock. 28” stock tires , composite racks with a system to install boxes etc....
100%! ...and we needed it many years ago lol!
"it's hard to kill a Honda". I grew up on TRX 250x's back in the 90's and fell in love with Honda reliability. Now I'm looking for an ATV that will be suited for mostly work on the farm, dragging a trailer, and some trail cruising. I don't need an insane off-road speed demon just looking for a general workhorse that is reliable and has some features. It's odd to me that Honda has their 'highest spec' utility ATV - the Rincon, that has less features than the other utility ATV's. Perhaps I'm missing something, but the Rincon doesn't even have a place for a ball/hitch or diff locks... seems the Foreman Rubicon has more features.
What am I missing?
The rincon should have the 1000 engine from the talon! It would outsell all other atvs
100%! I figured we would have already seen the Rincon with the Pioneer 1000's engine by now since that rolled out in 2016 and Honda has used that engine now on so many different models. The Rincon is past due for a new engine with at least 70-80+ horsepower, DCT, diff lock, EPS among other updates...
Same old same old. Honda step it up already. 1000 rincon would be nice with diff-lock
I'm with you 110%! We need a 1000cc setup with a diff lock etc to really revive the Rincon name...
Rincon = Best !!
Junk
@@freedomlawnservice1987 Go buy A Polaris then. Just make sure you sell it for 50% of what you paid every 2-3 years before it starts breaking down. hehehe
The Rincon is a dinosaur, but i still would like to have one for a while
lol you hit the nail on the head, she's getting a little old but I'd take one for a while too ;)
Kevin are you working at Southern Honda now. I have bought a couple of bikes from you when you were at Honda of Chattanooga.
Oh really? Talk about a small world lol!
No sir, I'm not working at Southern Honda Powersports but they are helping me continue on the dream of getting to do what I love for a living and call it "work" haha. I'll be by there on a regular basis filming these videos etc for UA-cam, my blog over at www.HondaProKevin.com and the usual Facebook, Instagram etc. Long story short ;)
Has Honda ever posted the towing weight capacity for the Rincon yet? Looking for a good atv work horse for towing at least 1500 pounds.
I don't understand why they wouldn't put that engine in the other models they should have put that 680cc in the rubicon
I’ll stick w/ Rubicon.
Thanks for posting up!
It's hard not to pick the Rubicon over the Rincon, unless all you want is horsepower and you're willing to lose out on a lot of features JUST to have that extra horsepower. It'd be one thing if we were doubling the horsepower but we're not, it's Honda we are talking about here lol. The Rubicon just ticks too many boxes that the Rincon can't, it's still a great ATV but it's stuck in the last decade...
Rincon is faster than the Rubicon..and has less body roll in the corners
WHEN ARE HONDA GOING TO MAKE A 2 SEATER QUAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They may surprise me but I don't think we'll see that any time soon as there hasn't been anything trickling down to hint at it. They need to though, it's a market that isn't capitalized on enough.
This needs to be offered in a dual-clutch 5-speed or foot shift five-speed and without power steering. I never had power steering growing up on three wheelers or four-wheelers and to me it's just something expensive to break and have to pay money to get fixed.
Compared to the yamaha 700 grizzly it isnt very good. I had one and love hondas but the rincon is very disappointing! Would like to see power steering and more power. 3 speed tranny is not good either
Oh yeah, I'd love to see them add some more power and EPS with a DCT and a diff lock and we'll be golden!
Just when you thought honda couldn't get any more boring here ya go.
Yeah, no doubt huh? 10K for this red turd?
Don't need anything bigger than the 520 anyways, I'll get the pickup truck at that point.
A footshift 820 solid rear axle with diff lock and color options
I like your thinking and 100% on the color options too as Honda has been lacking in that department for a while. They've been playing with some new and different color options the last couple of years though and I'll give them credit for that but it's few and far between.
@@HondaProKevin a rear disk brake would be nice to do the 2021 have front disk rear drum? Or is it still all drum
The rancher models is what I'm talking about I'm looking into buying one possibly can't beat them they just need to double the cc and all disk brakes led lights
On the Rancher, if you go with a straight axle model then you're going to have a drum in the rear but if you go with an IRS model then it will have a disc brake in the rear to match the fronts.
That's almost 10K dude, seriously? I've got an 06' 680 that I bought new in 06'. Good Farm/Ranch bike but won't turn The bigger tires for mudding unless you start putting big bore kits, gear reductions, axles, etc. I would rather spend the extra coin on something ready to rock such as Can-Am or Polaris. The bike was 7K back then and the only thing that has changed now is it has become 3K more valuable? I don't think so. It seems Honda wants to cater to the Rich & Elite people. A Working Man don't stand a chance. You disappoint me Honda!
A 10,000 dollar red turd!
I wouldn't call it a $10,000 red turd but I get what you're saying lol.
Sadly everything's price has went up over the years but at least with the other models they had some upgrades thrown in the mix whereas the Rincon is still the same unit. One thing we do have to keep in mind though, that's the MSRP and 99% of the time you can buy them well below that. Well, when prices aren't inflated because of the corona mess lol. But up until last year, even though their MSRP was $9,499 you could regularly buy them in the $7-8,000'ish range when they had rebates etc. It doesn't seem like it was that long ago that people thought $15k was a lot for a side by side and now we have people lined up to pay $25k and up for one lol, crazy times!
Compared to other machines that even cost less, it falls short. Crappy suspension, no diff lock, no power steering, no real low range and not enough power. Add the puzzling transmission that nobody has ever liked and you get an atv that most dealers probably refuse to put on the sales floor because it won’t sell.
They need to offer this in a 5 speed footshift or 6 speed foot.. And they need to offer a big bore package.
Like 90 hp 6 speed foot shift. To compete with the x m r 1000 renegade.
I hate the automatic transmission that x m r one thousand has. It needs .a manual
I have had both the 520 and the 680...the 680 is an unbelievable bike.. I would take the 680 any day.. what honda needs to do is make a big bike with power steering and lock dif .......I have tracks on the 680....best bike I have ever had. Come on honda. We need the Rincon to be everything. The look of the Rincon compared to the rubicon way better even yrs later. Come on honda get with the program and give us a big four wheeler with best utility and sport trail. U got it so produce it. The 520 look like shit and is no where near the trail bike as the Rincon is. 800 honda Rincon with power steering and lock diff with all the trimmings. I will take two please. This comes from a guy that has everything honda in my shop..
I say leave it mostly alone it's unique and a time capsule. Upgrade another model. My main gripe would be the price on an old tech ATV. I wish yamaha had the same old banshee stilll in their line up.
Halogen lights ?
I assume that honda plans on dropping the Rincon since it has been so neglected
Hopefully we'll see Honda drop the Pioneer 1000 engine in their soon with a DCT and some chassis updates to really bring this unit to where it needs to be in today's market!
Marginally better reliability and build quality in exchange for completely outdated technology and abysmal performance. I’ll take the Polaris or Can-am please!
Yamaha is just as reliable and a Kodak 700 will blow this away on performance. You can buy a Kodak 700 and a utility trailer to haul it for less than a new rincon.
Didn’t know they still make them
lol yes sir, they still make them!
Nobody buys em lol.
We need a different look n more cc please
Hopefully soon... Thanks for posting!
ATV 4x4 is better than two wheeled heavy motorcycles.ATV is safe,because it does not fall.
Honda is becoming irrelevant for anything over 500cc. This Rincon would be great with diff lock, proper lighting, and many other options that all other manufacturers have. How can you NOT have power steering + EBS in this day and age??!
Anyone know the top speed of this sucker?
So they only make one Rincon and no power steering, no differential lock and no foot shift. That’s not very good
Starting and riding might help
Might help?
@@HondaProKevin
Yeah I'd like to here and see it perform.
Honda just doesn’t listen that’s why they are falling behind in the atv market.
2021 rancher>2021 rincon
2021 foreman>2021 rincon
2021rubicon>2021 rincon
2021 rincon=2006 rincon they are literally the same quad and 15 year difference if ya want a rincon buy it used off market place for 4k instead of 9.5 k lmao
How about 4 or 5 speed auto tranny, EPS, at least a rear locker and lastly, different color options for 2024
Damn Honda , I was gonna buy a new one in 2013 and its the same bike lol 😆
How long will it be Kevin before they finally update it?
We're close... This whole corona mess has really thrown a wrench in a lot of timelines but we are close!
@@HondaProKevin Hope you're right. Do you feel similarly about Yamaha finally updating the Grizzly 700?
It's hard to say with Yamaha as I'm not as ingrained in their business like I am with Honda. Just being honest with you, it'd be nothing more than a guess for ole Blue lol ;)
@@HondaProKevin They should use the twin from the NC750X n the Rincon
Trail Blazer ATV that would be a great choice. Even the Honda shadows 750 vtwin would be great. Honda made a 700xx sport quad years ago, it was 700cc single with about 50 hp. That would put it about equal with grizzly 700 and king quad 750.
Buy a low mile 15 year old Rincon same machine at a third the price.
lol yup yup! When you have a model that's run as long as the Rincon, that's always a good idea to consider.
This ATV would be perfect with a Hondamatic transmission and power steering.
seems all the feedback ive heard on this model is mostly negative...i didnt research it much because its not offered anymore by honda so...i guess it flopped!!! i do like the rubicon 520 with all the options even if many people say to get the footshift...id pick the dct...yes im getting old and picky lol..so the 2024 rubicon is what im planning to get next spring...it should be my last atv as their reliability history dictates they just keep going and going...and thats the best and only reason i need to get a Honda!...and well... i like Honda...everything they make is known for reliability so why Not?? if they would not be available id go for Yamaha Grizzly 700 with the 10yr belt warranty,,,,nobody else dares offer that,,,and that should mean something!
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Thank you for sharing.
Wow, you were fast on posting lol!
Thanks for checking out the video and posting a few kind words too, I appreciate it bud!
@@HondaProKevin Fast like the Rincon ⚡😊 I've owned only Hondas since a QA-50 in 1970 and then 1971 when I got an SL-70 for Christmas
@@doc559 lol yes sir!
Heck yeah, that's awesome! I picked up a QA-50 about 10 years ago to restore, those are cool and different little bikes! It's wild how far they've come over the years...
Honda's seem so expensive but very few options and weak. I just have an 83 big red that starts every time so I'm kind of forced to buy a Honda after owning one for 20 years with no problems.
Those things need to be retired and put out to pasture. They're dangerous in my opinion. I've ridden several. No power steering sucks, but if you're going down a steep hill all the weight shifts forward and the steering almost locks up plus it's really twitchy and handles just awful. But hey, it's reliable.
lol your last sentence cracked me up bud, thanks for posting your experiences and feedback ;)
@@HondaProKevin is it not reliable?