Chery Tiggo 8 vs Toyota Innova E Comparison | Philkotse Reviews
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- Опубліковано 28 гру 2021
- At P1.3 million pesos, there are a lot of choices for a family car in the Philippines. But if you're going for the most space at the price point, there's no doubt the Toyota Innova comes to mind. However, is it still the best in value or can someone like the Chery Tiggo 8 push it out of its throne?
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Before we comment..let's be reminded of the premise that they established at the start of the video... that if you have 1.3m which one will you choose. Thanks for the review... i'm not into both but nice review. God bless.
Gay lord talaga name mo sir?
Omg confirm ba talaga name
Toyota is japanese technology no need to compare
After having watched so many reviews and comparos over the past few months, including this one, I've finally made my decision last Oct 4, 2022. And it's still the Toyota Innova. You can never go wrong with a Toyota.
Actually ang advantage kasi nung flip-up 3rd row ng Innova (even Fortuner) is better thigh support. Problema kasi ng mga flat folding 3rd row seats ay nakataas masyado ang tuhod mo. And it really fits 3 adults. Our older Innova can seat 3 adults sa third row with no major issues even for long drives and that's with smaller dimensions sa newer innova.
Difference din if you try to fit 5 or more adults inside. Benefits ng mga less-stressed diesel engines ay it would take heavier loads without that much additional effort. Tried and tested na samin even with the weaker 2KD 2.5L diesel loaded with 9 persons on-board with luggage pa. Smaller displacement turbocharged engines aren't really designed to carry load regularly. Kaya it seems fine is because journalists doesn't really test it on an "ownership-basis" test. Usually they load it it 3 to 5 people on board with light luggage to boot.
Digital instrument clusters doesn't really give huge advantage over analog gauges when it provides basically the same information. Kinagandahan pa ng analog is, it will most likely survive far longer than digital display. Soft touch plastics and leather may also provide better luxury, but urethane and hard plastics also maintain durability. 10-15 year old urethane and hard plastics wouldn't really age compared to leather and soft touch materials so it really depends on how long you intend to keep your vehicle.
If you're the type of person that wants to keep your vehicle around 10-15 years or more - better choice is the Innova. Pero if you intend to keep switching vehicles, Tiggo seems a good deal. Luxury features kasi like leather, advanced head unit, cameras, it's easy to add-on eventually. But you can't just change your vehicle dimensions, engine, and transmission when it becomes inadequate.
I couldn't agree more!💯 These two are good in there own ways. Both are capable. Lifestyle mo nalang talaga ang mag sasabi kung alin ang dapat piliin. Thank you for your nice input, Sir Mark!
exactly
lts NOT Leather its PLASTIC !!!! say it ,plastic,plastic,plastic !!.
But isuzu mux has the best 3rd row seating but the 3rd row still folds flat? Cmon man
@@maneseethangilt.2119 best? says who? MUX owners? Cmon man. Your foot on either side in the 3rd row of MUX is tilted sideways. It's not comfortable. Knee room wise, yes, it's good. But man, their toe room is one of, if not the worst there is. And you can only seat two. I mean, limited na nga lang yung seating, sinagad pa on either side tapos yung paa mo, tilted sideways dahil nakapatong sa wheel well. hindi manlang ginawang flat, o medyo nilagay sa gitna para alteast flat parehong paa ng uupo. Eh hindi, yung isang paa mo, naka angat ng slight compared sa inner foot.
Oh, and btw, the only way it looks flat is because they have raised cargo floor. So you're basically lifting too high just too load your baggage.
still toyota innova ang maasahan kahit tipid sa features! twice a week akong umaakyat sa baguio para hatid sundo ang mga anak ko at mga ibang kaklase nila na nag aaral doon n innova lang ang malakas.more fancy features means more repairs to consider later kaya sa innova madali lang maintenance.
reliable engine power +
braking performance 💪
tama po kayo yong mga extrang toys ni tigo sakit ng ulo kapag tumagal kapag isa isa ng mag malfuntion mga sensor tapos di mo pwede dalhin sa mga gilid gilid na repair shop be ready for the high cost of maintenance and parts availability issue, mas malaki tipid sa gas ang innova malaking halaga din ito in the long run, subok na matibay at maasahan c toyota kaya resale value niya dika talo.
Kung sobra sobra yung pera mo pwede mo i try yung tiggo8, pero kung sakto lng dun kana sa cgurado toyota innova. Yung saken 6yrs old na yung innova ko pero yung performance ng makina same parin nung bago sya..
Ok nman yong sa akin china car 11yrs na ok pa nman.
Nice review mga idol pero dapat i-consider nyo rin ang resale value. For me bale wala ang maraming features kung sirain naman at mahirap ibenta kung kailangan mo ng ibenta. Kaya ang huling halakhak goes to Innova.
Infairness naman sa tiggo kase nga ang mindset ng pinoy eh sirain pag hindi japan made gaya ng toyota. Kaya siguro 10 yrs ang warranty para maisip ng pilipino na subukan sila baka matibay din naman.
Always go for a bigger engine when carrying more than 5 people. Imagine the fuel economy ng tiggo kung fully loaded.
Innova pra less hassle at downtime sa parts and service. Kahit sa mga kantong shops at mekaniko kayang kaya. Less cost in maintenance in the long run. Pero kung di nman pangharabasan ang gamit Chery Tiggo 8 on my wishlist.
Marami ngang features ang tiggo pero paano kaya mga yan after 5 years? For me dun na ako.sa sigurado... toyota na
As long as toyota remains the top selling brand in the Philippines don't expect them to improve the features of their vehicle especially the ride and comfort
exactly.. yung toyota sa pinas tlgang kabisado na nila mindset nang pilipino kahit wlang improvement bsta TOYOTA ayos lang.. which reliable nmn tlga kaso habang tumatagal kasi lumuluma ang dating nang toyota kahit brand new cya.. tulad nang fortuner madali n lng bumaba ang value ngyun sa 2nd hand na fortuner..
how about the new avanza?
Kya hindi nila iniisip na napag iwanan na si innova in terms in technology. Kya hindi nila iniinprove dahil marami prin bumibili
Oo nga hindi na nageeffort sa looks at tech si toyota, kakabanas.
I think sa performance nlng bawi ang toyota, makina at parts availability.
Ganda ng pagkakagawa ng head to head sa dalawang sasakyan talagang nasapol ang bawat features kung sino dapat piliin. . Galing
Don't really care about the toys, or kung analog or digital ang dashboard. Performance ang tinignan ko kaya bumili ako ng innova.
Iba talaga ang decision making kapag may criteria. Pinoy instant answer and preference is always the leading brand but when the comparison is broken down to different criteria, the decision is not so straight-forward.
Kung reliability naman ang usapan eh nasa may ari naman kung reliable ang kotse or hindi. Whether it be china, japan, american or european made ang kotse kung ang owner naman hindi rin maalaga sa kotse then wala rin sense ang reliability. Especially in the case of diesel engines na pag hindi mo naalagaan, arms and legs na ang aabutin babayaran mo just to have it fixed. In this day and age ride comfort, features and value for money na ang labanan since ang reliability is really subjective. I currently own a toyota but I have to give my vote for the tiggo 8 since ride comfort and features ang hanap ko for a modern suv
I choose Innova kahit oudated and basic feature.Pero matibay pang matagalan at for family MPV rin siya kahit photobomber sa mga sportscar.
Tama ka brod madami kc nasisilaw sa itsura lng eh. Pang akit talaga mga features pero ang totoo adds on lng mga yan dhil ang primary jan eh makina,underchasis,comfort,fuel effecient at may extra pa matulin at malakas sa ahunan khit overloaded pa ladder in frame pa means design pang torture sa rough road.
@@Lifeofaseaman mas maraming elwcronics ar extra mas maraming masisira,mas simple mas maganda,more is not always better.
Good comparo! Competition will only serve to benefit the consumers in the long run because of the features trickling down price points people should not stereotype and should be open to new options. As for the old players you guys need to step up your production and interior design to match the needs of the consumers. As for the new competition goodjob and goodluck on the reliability of the cars that you are producing!
I prefer this buddy or 3-man review! Gives an overall perspective of not just the driver, but as passengers as well :) good job!
If I am not mistaken, the engine that comes with the Toyota Innova is the same as the Toyota Fortuner and Toyota Hilux, albeit with few minor tweaks and slightly different ECU mapping. That engine is tried tested and true. Toyota's reliability will trump that Chinese engine's 10-year warranty. I think they should have factored that in.
Malakas pa din po Torque ng Fortuner and Hilux.... body framed po parehas sila sa baragan.... yan po panlaban ng toyota.....
Yes, the three have the same platform...
@@jonjonlucero5610 ñ
natawa ako sa 10 yr warranty
this applies sa mga 7 seaters na flat fold yun 3rd row seat, Advantage ng Innova is yun flip 3rd row seat. kasi pede mo bilhan ng trunk tray and kun saan mo lalagay mga hahakutin mong mga bagay, not unlike yun folding seat na flat baka masira lalo kun mabibigat na bagay ilalagay mo like generators. yun trunk tray easy replaceable incase masira katagalan. yun back seat pag na kamot kaka load mo ng mga bagay bagay, parang di ganun kabilis palitan.
Dko itapon ang pera sa chinese brand, japanese car nalang ako mahimbing pa tulog ko
Nice review. Pero ngayon mas okay ata sya icompare sa Veloz for both 7 seater with 1.3m.
Sa Toyota Innova pa rin ako. We have a 2022 Innova and previously owned two other Innovas and they lasted for so many years. Plus we still have until now a 2003 Diesel Revo that is still in very good running condition with fuel efficiency of 8.5 km per liter city driving. Toyota is so dependable. We had 2 Mitsubishi L300, a Mitsubishi L200 pick-up, Mazda MPV, Nissan Xtrail, Isuzu Crosswind, Starex, and Honda Civic, Isuzu FB Diesel with passenger Cab, plus Ford Courier Pick-up. Just for comparison on dependability, all our Toyotas lasted long and with very low maintenance cost. I would be happy to see more cars and brands coming into the marker so it will benefit the consumers. Experience tells me that I can count on the quality and reliability of Toyota. However, a strong competition is good to keep Toyota on its toes and not be complacent.
Dadayain ka tlaga sa appearance at features ng sasakyan para mabili mo lan ito, pero kung patibayan at pangmatagalan magiisip ka talaga
Please compare cherry tiggo 8 2022 and gelly okavango 2022
Informative and entertaining as always! More vids to come please.
145 hp/210 nm torque vs 172hp/360 nm torque. Performance(toyota) vs form(cherry). Innova hindi pilit ang makina hindi hirap kesa 1.5 parang avanza lang ang laki ng makina.
TURBOCHARGED tiggo8 ang cherry so malayo pagkakaiba.
May turbocharger din ang innova. Diesel and gasoline yun ang pinagkaiba. Di dapat nila pinagkumpara ang 1.5 sa 2.8 na makina.dun nila ikumpara sa magkapareho ang laki ng makina.all this small engines are all wannabes when it comes to performance.
@@philipdaleemperado1327 I think yung basis ng comparison was the price point and the seating capacity. Hndi sa makina.
Still it boils down to engine size. Same price but not same performance.mature drivers prefer reliable vehicles over techs which does not really matter when you are driving.
Innova is the gold standard for mpv in the phils bar none.that is the reason why they are comparing tiggo to innova in the price range. Rear wheel drive vs front wheel 1.5 engine vs 2.8.if you remap the ecu innova will reach 200 hp. Innova with 8 persons onboard vs tiggo with 8 person onboard i bet you will feel the difference in power you'll wish you bought the one with a bigger engine.
Los saludos desde México. Excelentes analisis. 👏 felicodades.
Best choice is the Tiggo. Pero magiging tester ang buyer kung talagang pang matagalan at masubukan yung 10-year warranty. Pwede sa mga mahilig mag palit ng sasakyan every 5 years. Mas may dating and itsura at features para sa kabataan. Maganda ang presyuhan ng chery pero mahina pa rin ang brand name compared sa Geely at MG na merong reputation.
Uni-body ang category ng tiggo 8. Same sa santa fe, sorento, cx-7, rav4. Innova is in MPV category, same as Geely Okavango.
For 1.3 M the Geely Okavango is also a great deal
Sana mag award kayo best car for 2021, 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Lost me when stanley voted Tiggo sa engine like seriously. Bigay mo na lahat ng features sa Tiggo but for engine kitang kita ang mismatch ewan ko ba kung paano ka pa boboto sa Tiggo
Convincing! will get an Innova within this quarter! Tried and tested company! :)
gud am.mga bossing,alin ang masmaganda X70 sport or chery tiggo 8 pro?
Very informative.. thanks for sharing.
Ang Toyota Innova ay tinaguriang pambansang Photobomber dahil sa pagiging matibay ito at mayroon nang mahigit 200,000 ang mga Innova na nandtio sa Pilipinas, at pati na rin ang partisipasyon nito kasama ang mga sikat at tanyag na Sports cars.
Cringe.
MPVs are great people ang stuff haulers, while SUVs and crossovers give a more sporty as well as a more comfortable ride.
At the end of the day, Cherry will only sell 1 tiggo 8 per 30 innova. Philkptse must add these categories - resale value, ease of maintenance, access to outside casa parts, customizability, brand reputation, people perception
If Cherry will give the same aftermarket service and parts availability like that of Toyota, they can give Toyota a run for their money.
Just wait for ilang yrs pa. Dadami narin parts ng mga chinese cars.. tsaka palang mag aadjust ang toyota if that happens
Japanese car pa rin kahit anong ganda ng Chinese cars parang disposable ang Chinese 😂
Bakit ka pa bibili ng sasakyan kung resale value ang nasa isip mo? Ano buy and sell ka? Bumibili ka ng sasakyan to meet your needs. So, kung me colonial mentality ka thinking na ang japan made eh mas maganda kesa china made eh think again. Baka nalilipasan ka na ng panahon. Range rover, Jaguar, Porsche, BMW and Mercedez Benz, mga top notched vehicle at napakamahal pero sila ang pinaka unreliable sa market! Wag kayong judgmental kung wala kayong car na Cherry Tiggo 8 at sabihing unreliable ito. 10 Years warranty means they are confident that engine will run a million kilometers.
I like u two as a team....reviewing cars, ang galing! Very entertaining, I like ur humor..I also imagine u two having a movie na katatawanan parang dolphy and company.
PAID COMPARISON, BIAS REVIEW!!! Kawawa ung mga nauuto nyo!!!
Toyota! Durability and reliability !
Bilangin nyo kung sino mas Marami sa Daan kung Ang cherry tiggo 8 o Toyota innova
Tama...10yrs warranty dw ang tiggo
Kakatawa...
Subukan nyo paanadarin ng derecho ng 2 to 5 days wlang patayan ng makina..baka malusaw makina ni tiggo
@@fredronquillo1960 if dimo afford pikit
Wala po ba ba manual sa T8? Or any chinese 7seaters na manual?
Lods pa review naman ng hyundai accent 2022 balak ko kasi kumuha next year salamat at Godbless
para sakin lamang ang innova sa functionality and simplicity..
Now ko lang kayo napanood pero maganda ang type ng review nyo. Himay na himay...
Please advice which one ? Cherry tiggo 8 or toyota innova ?
Would rather go for a Japanese brand. Tested and Proven 💪
that Tiggo 8 is severely underpowered when carrying 5 people, hope that they bring the Plus version with the better engine or the hybrid model. if battery life wasn't an issue the Okavango would be better then either of these two.
10 yr - 1M km na warranty.
Pero sa powertrain lang yan.
Ang daming parts na possible masira, di natin alam gaano ka reliable ang Chery. At di din natin gaano kahirap ang pyesa pag may need palitan.
Observing their videos parang tinataas talaga nila ang chinese brands. Still reliability and aftersales pa din ang importante
True
😂
Nice and detailed comparo, thanks for sharing your unbiased insights throughout the content 👍
Anong laban ng outdated at underpower na 2.0 innova? 😅
Hindi binigyan ng malaking points ang power ng Innova engine, super tibay ng innova body and under parts, at super husay na after sales support ng toyota. 🙂
SANA GAC GN6 vs innova V ang compare po ninyo!
Mgkano po price nman mga boss ng tigo 8 at inova e?
Ipagcompare mo ba naman MPV sa SUV. malamang mas maraming magandang feature ung SUV.
The best car review vlog kasi kwela at tagalog.
Bottomline pa rin jan, who’s who in the industry? Who has the higher resale value and can last longer? Sino ngayon ang mas worth it for value of money?
Toyota knows people will still buy their vehicles despite being so behind on tech and comfort na parang halos nanguuto na sila ng tao. Yung Innova sa ibang bansa, mas madaming tech and features for practically the same price. "Reliability" and availability ng pyesa sa Banawe nalang talaga naiiwan na advantage ng Toyota dito.
Innova pa din in terms of value for money, lahat ng features ng Tiggo 8 na wala sa Innova ay maganda lang pag Bago pero in the long run panalo pa din si Toyota in terms of performance, engine, maintenance, resale value etc.
ill go for automatic transmission of the innova, with dual clutch though it shifts smoother is ideal for racing, it does not like stop and go and often overheats on uphill roads.
Could you guys do a review of older models vs. their newer/newest counterparts? I'm not a car enthusiast, so i don't know much about the terms and the "non-negotiables", but I'm planning to buy my parents a somewhat "new" suv. I'm wondering if the hype is real for the new models or if the older models are still great, like the mu-x 2019 vs. 2020/2021 (actually, I specifically wished the mu-x 2019 and mu-x 2020 ones to be re-reviewed, if it still holds).
Insight from the community is also appreciated. Help a youngin out. Lol 🤣
innova still the pinoy favorite,matibay,maasahan,malakas ang makina...
Saan na kaya ang cherry qq?
Toyota Innova pa rin ang pipiliin ko. Sobrang lakas kasi ng makina ng Innova. Pampamilya, Panghakot at Matatag ang Innova
If you have the money and you plan to change cars quickly, you can chose the tiggo. But if you are looking for a long lasting car, something that you can maintain, its still the Innova
Nope
Explain toyota car last longer then that brand lol
go for the innova durability and value for money
Value for money?, I think they are the same. Besides tiggo 8 phev is fully loaded btw.
Plus one for you sir. :) cherry has yet to prove it’s name kasi. For parts and services, i think makaka order ka nga ng parts ni innova kahit thru shopee as for my experience. Not sure with the cherry? And looking at the company’s track record, i would trust toyota instead.
Toyota’s services are not perfect , but for me it’s the best.
10years warranty for durability
maganda yung topic niyo. panalo! 🤙
145 vs 172 hp? ill go with innova, my daily grind hyundai elantra 2017 sedan has 147 hp and i still sometimes have a hard time merging the freeway
Turbocharged and Tiggo8
What quality for chinese cars?
despite all the votes tiggo 8 pro gets, I still choose Innova E AT, and I'm very satisfied :)
It doesn't matter if its 10 years warranty kung hindi ka naman mag cacasa all the way for 10 years.
I drive a chinese car 4 years turning 5 now, maganda pa din overall ang experience ko, when it comes to toyota naman nakapag drive na din so many times and to compare mas gusto ko pa ung chinese car. Wag po magalit alam ko maka toyota kayo kasi sa SO CALLED RELIABILITY only time will test kung uubra itong mga chinese cars
Innova pa rin ang gusto ko kasi Pampamilya, Panghakot, Malawak at Matatag ang Makina kahit papuntang Baguio maaasahan ang Innova
奇瑞瑞虎8性价比很高了，奇瑞汽车的高端品牌EXEED才是最好的中国汽车。
bakit walang toyota sienna dito sa atin?
In electronics you cant tell how long it will last and the soft touch it is prone to scratch in short durability
I kinda understand the reason for the heated debate. Sa tingin ko, wala naman pong bias kasi sila Sir Stanley naman is reviewing the car based on what is in front of him at the moment. Siyempre, Hindi naman Yan based on what will happen after a major accident or when the car parts wear off, dba? I don't think they are able to review the car for months, let alone years kaya talagang the review is based on what is here and now. Kahit naman hindi bago si Chery dito, Mas bagito naman siya kaysa sa Toyota. Time will tell. If the car does well, possible din naman po na yung mga car parts owners sa Banawe will start selling the parts. I'm sure, Mas mabilis din lang bumili ng car parts from China considering start na ng RCEP at trade with China.
The best comparo so far
14:28 hindi nyo na highligth ? Eco mode, Power mode, active traction control, Gate type transmision, and 3 air bags? Mas meron points sa inyo un style vs features and benifits ? Hahaha Bias and Paid Comparison!!! Kawawa viewers nyo. Specially new buyers! Shhhhh!!!
3 air bags? masaya ka na sa 3? 6 ang airbags ng Tiggo8 👍
@@TakbongPugeBikers dagdagan mo pa nang ABS,EBD, Vehicle Stability Control System, Rear Seat Belts, Seat Belt Warning, Height Adjustable Front Seat Belts, Parking Sensors, Crash Sensor, Front Impact Beams, hahahah
TIGGO 8 FEATURES: 8 airbags, ABS,EBD, Vehicle Stability Control System, Rear Seat Belts, Seat Belt Warning, Height Adjustable Front Seat Belts, Parking Sensors, Crash Sensor, Front Impact Beams, hahahah
Kaya mahal ng pilipino ang mga cars ng toyota eh tried and tested na ang toyota company lalo na mga ordinaryong pilipino na pinaghirapan ang pera. Saka mdami ang spare parts ng toyota na mabibili di gaya ng mga ibang car na bagong labas...
Diesel po innova gas ang cherry. Layo po tlga ang difference.
bilhin mo today pareho bukas benta mo as secondhand im sure si tigo matitigo sa presyo sa kababaan
Hindi sya apple to apple... ang ganda ng tigo 8 hi tech/modern style pero ang babayaran mo nlng sa innova yung reliability/quality.
Ok kayo talaga mga sir mag promo maliwanag gd day
even 10 years warranty, kung sirain naman and availability of parts (ofcourse,its still a question), masyadong abala yan...i'll go for a durable vehicle
1.5 tpos 7 seaters medyo hirap na yan pag naging 3 yrs old pataas na yung car pagpuno sakay if laging puno sakay mo dun ako sa innova 2.8 if comport at d nmn lagi puno tiggo👍👍👍
Intindihin nyo rin yung nag sasabi na gusto nila si Innova. 1.3m na kotse yan pareho, sa iba siguro hindi malaking halaga yun pero sa iba langit at lupa sakanila yun kaya mas gusto nila yung brand na ika nga nila e subok na. 😊
Tiggo 8 vs Okavango urban plus
Makina lang ang panglaban ng innova, the rest ng features ay panalong panalo ang tiggo 8. Mas pipiliin natin ang luxury feels kesa taxi feels.
5 years old design na yun innova. Sobrang outdated. Siguro reliability nalang aside sa diesel 2.8 na makina linalaban ng innova. Walang major issue sa innova 2016-2021 aside sa mabilis magbukbok na stock yokohama blue earth tires.
If may 1.3M siguro ako mag ford territory nalang ako or dagdag onti para sa geely okavango top of the line.
Territory? Iba nga 6mo lang problema na. Gusto na ibalik kasi dami problema
China made VS Japanese made
Japan made paren pass sa luxury feels na di naman reliable🤣🤣🤣
@@xtremekulas1398 2022 na, pang 80s pa rin mindset nyo? Di nyo alam na mostly ng Japanese car brands na iniimport dito sa Pinas eh manufactured sa China? Lol, the irony tho.
Tiggo 8 vs Okavango is a good comparison. Try nyo
Kaya matibay ang Toyota boring ang design pero simple, practical and proven, sa intsik car, lagi na sa bleeding edge ng tech walang long testing bago ilagay... electronics unang bibigay dyan gaya ng mga German cars. 10 yr nga warranty ng engine pero kailangan sa casa mo ipa maintan ng 10yrs di mo pede kahit saan ipa change oil pa void warrranty for sure, e Pinoy pa naman hindi yan babalik sa casa lol.
Ganda ng review, tawa ako dini ah. Makina lang tlga panlaban ng Toyota✌️😁
Kaya nagsisimula nang makahabol o malagpasan ang mga japanese brand cars ng mga chinese. Kasi sobrang tinitipid ng mga japanese ang cars nila.
Example nalang yung Suzuki Ertiga na GA 2018, walang head rest sa lahat ng passenger seats. Grabe naman napakamurang add on nalang nun pero d pa nila binigay.
10 year warranty pero doon ka sa casa Nila mag maintain baka doon ka ma holdup
Basta TOYOTA bibilihin ko kahit outdated na
Out number ang innova lalo sa tect isa lng masasabi q lamang si innova sa engine lng kc deasel xa at subok na sa tibay at mas mura ang deasel compare sa gasolina. Sabi nga walang perfect na sasakyan pero sa tiggo prin ako.