Ministry 1982.05.18 On Broadway Chicago IL
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Vintage Ministry show from the vaults, Pre With Sympathy this was recorded for a broadcast on Chicago WXRT radio. This along with all known recordings is missing the encore Cold LIfe. Contratary to what Al claims, he clearly wrote some of the WS material himself. Being such an early point in Ministry's career, there are a number of different styles on display here. From the straight up New Wave assult of Revenge and Im not an Effigy, to the Rush like Prog Rock styled instrumental Primental. Also of note are the almost Punk like elements in Overkill that woud come to the forefront on albums like Land of Rape and Honey and Mind Is...
01 Same Old Maddness
02 Revenge
03 I'm Not an Effigy
04 Primental
05 Im Fallling
06 Overkill
lineup for show
Al Jourgensen - vox, electronics, im going to assume guitar on Overkill
Stephen George - drums
all others, if there were any, are unknown!
0:00 Same Old Madness
5:26 Revenge
11:29 Effigy
16:18 Primental
20:42 I'm Falling
24:24 Overkill
Thanks for existing.
Lov
This is better than Ministry's last 6 albums
I regretfully have to agree. The vintage stuff is still incredible and i visit it often.
Just about anything they have put out is better than their last six albums
😂
So not true rio grande blood last sucker were great double tap is a good song hail to his majesty change of luck alert level Al’s been pumping them out don’t sleep cuz it’s not synth
Their newest album ranks high for me. Al's still got it!@@greentea7703
Al Jourgensen - Vocals, Keyboards
Stephen George - Drums
Bob Roberts- Keyboards
John Davis - Keyboards
This is the Ministry i can get behind.
And I feel the same.This synthministry is great.
I like all Ministry
i don't get why Al tries to deny his musical roots. This stuff rocks. Everything comes back around eventually too. Wonder if he'll deny denying this stuff when it becomes popular again? Smh
Because it's gaf.
Maybe the fake british accent... Who knows
I think it's like when you get your dream job and it has a lousy boss who ruins it for you. He seemed to disdain the environment he worked in (and the final product I guess, as people warned us Al would destroy our copies of old stuff if we tried to get him to sign it)
He sees it as selling out to the record company. He didn’t want to make this kind of music. As I see it. Everything has it place. I love all the music they made.
People forget this band was leagues above their contemporaries theyre all studio tier musicians by this point. Could out play all the more successful punk turned synth pop bands.
I don’t think Al hated the music from this era as much as he hated what it represented to him as an artist. He is pure anarchy!!! He went and did many more Ministry albums and a lot of side projects his way and was happier in the end with his music.
I just saw Ministry play Ricky's Hand live, so no Al is more fond of this era than he leads us to believe!
He recorded it...dropped acid gave it a listen and hated it...but me I fkn love it...sounds great when I dose to it
i think this is genius! Al should embrace this side and preform old songs again before he dies
This is beautiful stuff. Zoomers will love this with the new 80's vaporwave boom retro stuff.
Al needs to just own this period. It was very influential for me as well as Skinny Puppy and other early industrial bands!! Listen to the opening of Same Old Madness and then listen to Skinny Puppy's 1985's Assimilate. Tell me they weren't inspired by Al!!
You can hear the darkness in this synth pop, that lead to Twitch and then progressing to the paradigm The Land of Rape and Honey. [You can make out Al being influenced by Cabaret Voltaire/Kraftwerk on this:)]. This time period was so important in Ministry's and Industrial Music's evolution. Own it Al and stop bs'ing about this period in your career.
It only makes sense that Ogre toured and collaborated with Ministry about 4-5 years later. The Ministry live performance of Skinny Puppy's Smothered Hope is one of the best covers/versions, if you can call it that, ever done!!!!
@iamkmm well said
I had the same thought--Remission coming after this, shows how Ogre and cEvin slowed the pulse--but it's the same heart!
Now this is the Ministry that I know and Love and still Miss. Shame on you Al Jourgensen for ignoring this part of Ministry's History and being Embarrassed and Ashamed of it. I'll never understand it but I guess all these years of taking so many drugs have ruined any sane thought. It still beats anything you have ever done
You can really hear the twitched sound here but with eerie synth from ws era, what an absolute gem this is!
True, I realy love the Twitch era. I also love WS, I actually love that one more then any post 2000 Ministry release, but the prouction of that one does not shows their full extend. It's just too polished. Twitch did ma,nage to capture then. By only regret is that Al ditched the WS songs in all his live performance from 1986 onwards. Songs like Work For love, Same Old Madness and Revenge could easily have been adapted to suit the then new Twitch sound. A shame, really.
At 11:49 Al dedicated Effigy to Jim and Danny of Wax Trax, and Carol...
This stuff is way too good to be underrated. Phenomenal and rich lyrical and instrumental. This type of pop I am totally supportive of and is worth being listened by everyone
Miles ahead of Depeche Mode, OMD, and anyone else electronically at this time in 1982.
totally true and Skinny Puppy too. I love DM too but it started way before Depeche Mode with Kraftwerk and David Bowie etc. Love discovering these old recordings of Ministry on here. huge huge fan of vintage Ministry.
Uh… No!
I was actually at this show! HOLY MOTHER OF BROADWAY AND YESSSSS MINISTRY ON Broadway....Love it and PHEWIE DANCING AT MEDUSAS AND YOU JUST KNEW IF YOU WERE THERE ALL THE TIME WHAT WAS THE USUAL MIX AND i SWEAR Al was the king of One more time....or...blurred up reversed and dang One night i had time loss experience AND CAME BACK STILL DANCING AT MEDUSAS TO A MIX OF HALLOWEEN....SWEET JESUS....I REMEMBER DANCING AND WHAT NOT AND THINKING OH BLOODY FUCKING HELL...SO AND SO IS SPINNING all FUBAR'ED tonight I GOTTA GET THRU THIS CROWD quick....BEFORE I GET STUCK BY THE SWARM OF PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT FROM NOOKS AND CRANNIES TO DANCE MACABRE TO THIS SONG.... OH MY GOD AND OH FUCK Al did it again and again and again and again. ARRGHHH....LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM AL IS ABSOLUTELY Essential Chicago and He IS TELLING THE TRUTH...IT TOOK SOME SERIOUS REWIND in my pea brain but thankfully..MADE EASIER BY MR. GRANT.... Yup...and I truthfully told I wanted to call BULLSHIT on the guy as well. He is talented..an artist. Glad to have been there
This is quality.
TH!S !S GOLD!!!! - WoooooooooW - Absolutely phenomenal. The synths live on this recording sound absolutely PERFECTION! ... Love hearing the early live version of Primental ... Later ... (I Wanted To Tell Her)
Отличное выступление!!!!!
This whole set rocks I love it
Man Primental sounds so awesome in this set! Interesting how that song morphed into I Wanted to Tell Her, which I also like.
Фантастично технично драйвово талантливо Ал😊
Still come back to this...
So, completely coincidentally, it would appear that this performance was on the day before my own tenth birthday. I was a bit young to know a lot of acts at that time, especially when I was in more into old- school Country & Western and "Trucker" artists. True enough though, by Junior High and High School just a few years later, the few ""With Sympathy" era tracks that made it out the Seattle/Tacoma airwaves were ones I look forward to hearing most. When I finally had a reason to start buying CDs in my early/mid-90s Uni years, I bought a new copy of WS, along with the Twelve Inch Singles comp; both of which got heavy rotation. And thanks to the likes of UA-cam, I get to experience in this century what I wasn't able to in the previous one.
The first stirrings from the Windy City of what would morph into industrial rock...
Super dance tracks, top hits
This is a treat!
he defiantly doesnt have a little boys voice so it wouldnt sound anywhere the same
I would go see this band now today.
I saw this tour @ City Gardens Trenton, NJ LONG AGO, ,
amazing how far al jourgeson & ministrys sound has evolved. al your the true godfather industiral metal
I agree with you, the live versions of the WS songs are way better than what ended up on the album. The songs were longer, and had more of an edge to them live than the album. That may be why Al hates that album so much, who knows.
It would make more sense if Al said "Yeah I liked that Euro-synth sound but I wanted to stretch the sound, go new directions..." But that doesn't sound tough enough I guess. I saw Ministry in 1982 and Al looked like he was having a helluva good time. I also saw him on the "Land of.." and "The Mind is..." tours, and those shows were great but y'know what? Didn't look like he was having nearly as much fun.
I would pay to see this today! Better than the shit we have to hear from today's artists.
Totally agree.
Wow! I Can't Believe This Exists!
Thank you...amazing post of music and history that I LOVE.
Ministry at their best 💋
It's new wave with duende!🌹👁🦷🦂🕸🦇🦉🦢🦀🐀🌿🍇🌕☪♉♾⚛♍
their finest year !
primental sounds like "I wanted to tell her" from WS
it mustve been derived from it
@@SniffyPoo it is an early version of it before Arista Records corrupted it
Wow, this is so cool. Wish I could have been at this show, but I did get to see them later in 82 in Madison WI. This really captures the zeitgeist of the early 80's for me
This is how they should sound now...this is incredible to discover...I like the way the pre WS tracks are played better on this than the album which I love since it came out. Overkill is perfectly executed.
I love Ministry back then....
this is the type of synth that I like, the good shit
this is greatest thing...electro synth nuwave alternative industrial goth...yes!!
Too bad Arista records did not allow Al to replicate this kickass version of Revenge into studio version.
It's all ministry , who cares what he said . He wrote it . It's up to him what he likes or doesn't . If you like it brilliant . I love everything they've done from start to finish . What's everyone have to get so offended for . If you don't like it , go write you own music .
you're missing the point. It's not a matter of him liking it or not. He's basically giving his version of revisionist history on his own stuff. Nobody is offended. In fact, it's more of the opposite. It's more like "this stuff is great. Why are you disowning it?"
I know Al wants to have the role of the hardass thrash metal Texan, but come on... its the 80s. Shit happens. Own that shit. It would be easier to tell the truth instead of coming up with nonstop lies. "Hi, I'm Al. I really enjoyed synth pop when I started out and made music that could be played at clubs. At one point, I went for a different industrial sound, and that evolved into thrash about a decade later." There, how fucking hard is that?
I like Ministry's synth era stuff. I like their industrial stuff. I like how they evolved from more of a metal band than a industrial band... ok, I'll be honest, I don't like a lot of the post-2000 Ministry. My point being most people feel the same way. They like the early stuff and what Ministry later evolved into. Why be ashamed about it?
It certainly sounds better than anything after “The Mind Is a Terrible Thing to Taste”.
Psalm 69 wasnt bad... mind was just better lol
Way better than anything after 'Twitch'...!
Better than anything after Animositisomina
@@cringemachine3470 THIS
ya ya good...
awesome post man, thanks a lot
love Same OldMadness
sooh much better than the thrash crap he's been putting out for the last 25yrs.
They put out stuff in the last 25 years?
I thought they died in a plane crash or something ;-)
Relax when you talk like that. Its all gold.
I was 11 on this date, but if I'd heard it at that age I sure would've liked it. Now I'm xx years old and I'm still loving it. (Fan since Twitch at 15.) Unfortunately the lyrics are kinda like real stuff that happened to me. You grow up and stuff happens.
it fucking kicks ass.
It feels like there's 2-3 albums worth of material that we should have got on either side of Twitch, when I here songs like Overkill, I'm falling, Do you Even Like it, Game Over and the like. It's such a mysterious and magical period.
This sounds brilliant! I love the tone of the lead and bass synths here.
And I love With Sympathy album but this early set sounds even better. More edgy.
I've been an Al fan since '86 but deliberately stayed away from his music from the early 80's because he (said he) was embarrassed by it.
36 years later, I* know* I'd have been into this at the time... it's SO fantastic to hear this so long afterwards.
Thanks for uploading it.
*34 years after this recording, I mean
@Mark Grant it was 1983, "With Sympathy", on Arista Records.
The album was pretty close to the 82/83 demo cassette recordings floating around the web. From what Patty Marsh (his ex wife) says, he was fine with the Arista deal at first and didn't dislike the songs themselves at all, but was extremely irritated by the producers and executives being particularly nitpicky and meticulous.
On top of that, he was also still in contact with the Wax Trax! crew in Chicago, and after With Sympathy finished up, he acquired a huge share of ownership in the company, and invested in his new studio+ his beloved Fairlight CMI (used on Twitch and LoRaH, which were published through Sire/Warner because they agreed to pay well and stay hands-off).
It's little coincidence that the shift to industrial started after getting more deeply involved with Wax Trax! and co.
It's little coincidence that his shift to
THANXS !!!!
brilliant
Wish he would go back and do a new record like this ... sure it can have some heavy dark riff too ....
Wnen AL wanted to be called Alain, wore parachute pants and talked with a fake accent.. Yeah I remember.
🥰👍
yes!
someone thinks...Al must sing this songs one more time?....hahaha.I like to listen the old Alejandro Ramirez Casas.
rad thx!
minstry was really good at synth pop they should have stuck with that
great post dude
sorry was nice to you al
you go68!
ya ya
82 -23 ? Monstry.Max szuper
Alejandro Ramirez "Al" Jourgensen, Born in Cuba.
Real last name was Brauer, Jourgensen is his step dads name
Actually it was Casas.
al is the son of efren reyes 👋🏿🎱👄🎱🤚🏿
Ministry On Broadway. Hmmm . . .
first song could be the theme on coast to coast
People say MINISTRY should have stayed synth pop- I like all of his stuff- he EVOLVED- that's great. But what bothers me, is he completely rejects any form of any of his work before his industrial. This WAS THE THING THEN- why would anyone WANT TO STAY THE SAME? I get that- but he covered the scene AS IT UNFOLDED - as for the accents- BRIT SYNTH WAS THE RAGE- we didn't have internet- we had MTV many bands didn't tour the US- he was right on time with this style.
AL DON'T SHIT ON YOUR BABY STEPS!
~Whitewolf i
~Whitewolf yeah I totally agree I've bought most Ministry albums up till The Last Sucker and I like them all but I think the early 80s material appeals to me more. Yes he had to evolve with the times ie. EBM nu metal etc. Good on him for that but I hate how Al has to cloak his past. We've all got skeletons in the closet I guess.
This old stuff is just simply good and could easily be slightly updated to remain part of setlists through the decades.
~Whitewolf ii
8 recomandations al to you to
al all just note this note friends funny yet1ya
wasnt you to tell rare sid and syd and moe
2020.06.25
What synths were used?
Pro-One, Moog Source
no comment 83 or 84 al
I wore my gurdle too tha circus
Skinny puppy had to get there sound from some one ...
Yup. THIS is what Ministry sounded like without any label influences. I don't think With Sympathy did a very good job of capturing it haha
Ахуенно🎉
actually a lot of these songs they did are on with sympathy
Ministry lost me when they stopped wearing makeup and stopped being synth.
everyone stole from ministry. ministry gave birth to NIN , Rob Zombie and
a broken frame from DP