BMW M2 M-Performance Exhaust Detail Review - Is it worth the money?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2016
- BMW's factory performance exhaust system is designed with stainless steel and carbon fiber. With more and more exhausts coming available for the M2, is this one the right choice for you?
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Great video, pure topic on the exhaust alone. 3 thumbs up!!
GTI_CHHA Thank you!
Really makes the N55 sound good. Great video man!
So rare to have guys speak honestly when it comes to anything they buy for their new BMWs thanks to extreme confirmation bias. Great vid. Subscribed.
Have you find out how to deal with the vibration during cold start on m performance exhaust ? Cause I have the same problem and dealer can’t fix it
Picking up my MY2017 later this week, and it has this option fitted. It sounds badass!
Just adding mine today and decided to watch others reviews :)
Hi!
Your video is great! I have the exhaust installed and agree to all your expressions!
One question: what iPhone cradle for the tray where you can put your drinks in is it??
Mine also makes the rattling sound at cold start. I think it’s the flaps?
Great Video. Very well done. Appreciate you taking the time to educate us all on the M Performance exhaust system!
Rob Weber Thanks. I’m glad it was helpful.
Great video. I have the M Performance exhaust on my M140i but it doesn't sound anywhere near as good as this. I'm actually booked in to get a silencer delete
First of all, let me say: thank you!!
You’re one of the reason why I bought me a m2. And now, you’re the reason why I will buy me a m performance exhaust system. Thank you so much ☺️☺️👌 great guy.
Cüniii K Thank you very much
good review simple and to the point.
Did you find any fix for the start up rattle? I’ve heard a ton of people have this issue!
Awesome video, thanks for the insight
It was helpful, thanks !
Great video and review. Thank you for taking the time to help us future owners work out whether an exhaust is worthwhile. I'm still on the fence as I really want an exhaust that is not too loud with the valves closed so as to not irritate neighbours etc. Is the exhaust tame enough in comfort with flaps closed, I've heard conflicting opinions.
Javed Mower Thank you. This is a difficult question to answer because it’s very subjective. To me it is very nice and tame in comfort mode but my wife still thinks it’s loud, especially when I cold start it in the garage. You can drive it easy and it’s not too loud but still has a nice sound if you ask me. I do drive in sport+ a lot because it sounds so good but almost never with the valves wide open. Good luck!
Thanks for the video !!! So I notice my car doing the exact thing on the cold start it’s getting very annoying. What exactly did they do to fix the issue ?
1 question from my side, will the stock exhaust tips fit onto this exhaust?
awesome video but i was looking for clips of the different exhaust modes and you revving that was the only thing missing......
The noise on startup is the valves rattling against the inside of the exhaust. We have an M4 with the MPE and it does the exact same thing (asked the dealer and thats what they told us). Kinda annoying cause you are right, its a weird sound to hear on strartup.
ferrari430fan hmmm, interesting. thanks for the info.
Valve rattle for 3.8k is a freaking shame..
Awesome video. Much appreciated!
hello, is the mperformance exhaust even a little bit more silent while cruising around 95-100mph? I've had M2 for one day to check before buying and sound of exhaust around 100mph was unbearable on standard exhaust...
Awesome review! Thanks!
Very nice review thanks. I'm about to buy a used M2 F87 LCI with MPERFORMANCE Exhaust mounted. Have you noticed any burnt area on the mufler next to the center of the muffler? Is there any specific area which is hotter than any other area? Have you managed to understand and delete the vibrations at cold start?
Yea I got one love it , but they all crack on the passenger side. Later ones have a support bracket added to prevent failure.
Great video - does the MPE give any additional HP as well?
MP exhaust is the best ! Good choice and taste !
Thanks for that video! I have a 2011 335i Msport convertible. N55 motor would sound Super awesome with the M performance exhaust system! I need that system!
steven johnson Yes it would! Thanks for watching.
Thanks bro, I really like your videos
+Art Sal Thank you man, appreciate it!
Hmm. So it was just pointed out by a bimmerpost forum member that there are extra clamps that go around the end exhaust pipes, that I believe were added by BMW to address the rattle. I had the MPE installed June 2018 and I have them. I also see another video on youtube, uploaded Dec 3 2017, that has them. Maybe you can get them for your bmw dealer?
The vibrations make the exhaust cool ;)
@MyGarage Tv
I got the same noise when I col start the car. Sounds really mechanical. Have you fixed it yet and if so can you tell me what was the cause?
No, unfortunately I've found out it is a very common problem. As a matter of fact, it seems like everyone with this exhaust suffers from the same problem which leads me to question that its a problem with the overall design. I haven't found a solution yet but if I do I will make a follow up video of how to fix it. Thanks for watching!
Hi, love your video thank you.
I have an M2 with stock exhaust. Figuring if I should upgrade to the MPE??? I have been offered a good price for it and considering to change. Is it worth it? Cant really appreciate in video. I guess I wont regret it right? Please advise! I only want OEM no after market so this is my first and only option. Thanks in advance!
Sound sample is too short but it does sound great.
Solid video. Great work brother.
Joe Lagostino Thanks man!
Nice sound good job on the video
Thanks for the great video. In your opinion - in Comfort mode - does the MPE drone whilst cruising at around 80mph? Or drone at all, at any speed in comfort mode? Thanks man
Simon Jones Yes, slightly just under 3k. But I never drive in comfort mode! The sound is too good and even on the fwy, I much prefer the throttle response in Sport or S+ than comfort mode. Honestly, even on a long 6hr fwy drive I never once even noticed the drone. Only if I really look for it and even then, it’s very slight.
Thanks - I do stick it in comfort a bit. Baby in the back, she likes to sleep. So on a long drive if we take the M2, I couldn't have any drone. But based on that feedback, I will give it a try! Thanks again. BMW owe you some commission.
Thank you for the nice video. Does sport and sport+ also actuate the butterflies?
Sport and Sport + both change and increase the sound but the bluetooth controller opens the butterflies fully into track/race mode. Sport is louder and sport + adds more of the burbles. Everything is the same with the butterflies open except louder. There are a lot of combinations and possibilities. The sport/sport + also change the throttle response significantly. I prefer sport/sport + with the butterfly closed for most driving.
All the titanium m perf. Exhausts are made by Akrapovic so definitely should be a nominal power and tq increase I assumed
How much is it???
My dealer was able to make some adjustments which reduced the vibration considerably. It is still there in two short cycles but significantly less. The shop foreman told me to see what I thought and let him know if I still want to replace it. So now I must decide. I'm not sure what I will do yet.
I have the same problem. Its a realy loud vibration-sound from the backseatfloor. What's strange is that it came after 2 months driving.
hi I wanted to know what did you do to fix the annoying rattle on start up. Mine has gotten really bad over the past few months and the forums all say it needs to be replaced
I was able to get mine fixed under warranty at the dealer. It ended up much better, but not 100% without rattles. I’ve since sold the car so I don’t have any other info to give you. Best of luck.
Great video, wonder if like with a lot of BMW cars and parts are they downplaying or just not mentioning the increase in HP. The exhaust has to be giving you some added power. Now my question is was this exhaust a option from BMW or dealer and if so did they mark up alot or did you just not consider it..?
+vincealinceable When I bought my car the exhaust wasn't available yet. It's cheaper to buy it yourself but then you have to pay to have it installed.
My Garage Tv gotcha thanks man, keep up the great videos
Well designed exhaust, especially if you install headers [ full exhaust system ] does increase a lot of power but exhaust systems are more like a multiplier of power. This means that apart of install only the full exhaust , it is far more better to change the ecu chip and install a high flow filter to gain many power. The gains can be well over 30 bhp especially on this car.
+TURBO CHARGER Yes, with additional mods there is power to be made. The downpipe alone is making decent gains I'm told.
My Garage Tv Sure , the factory leaves a lot for improvement. Those three parts that I mentioned gives a very decent increase in power without a big bugdet and does negligible harm to the engine.
thanks for the video ! Since when do you own this car ? Are you still happy each morning you wake up and drive it ? Does it push you to drive it even when you dont have something to do outside ? these are real questions ! thanks for the video
Zhar nadir I've had it about three months and yes, everyday I have off work, I look for excuses to drive it. I've had many cars in my life and this one is not the best but ranks very high. I really do love it! If you saw the car review I did you'll see how much I enjoy it. Thanks for watching!
nice informative vid,the only thing here in the u.k. is they just change the dollars to pounds so its even more expensive,i have the 220d with m sport trim,now I've watched your vids i,m sorely tempted with a proper m sport.regards john.
john whitehead Thanks for watching
I completely agree with all your points. Great video. I do share your idea of the "rattling" or "vibration" noise at cold start. Mine does the same. Wondering if you had a chance to fix it?
At the dealership, they told me it was "normal". Just wondering if you had more info on this topic.
Oscar Revolorio talking to my dealer tomorrow about a possible warranty claim. But from what I've read about the new updated exhaust which has a button in the trunk that you have to push each time you start the car to use the Bluetooth controller, I don't know if I want to change it. I'll see which way this goes and try to do an update to this video.
Best of luck! Again great video!! Thanks! Keep us posted!
My Garage Tv Hello. Would like to know what was the findings from your dealer. What did they say about the exhaust vibrating? I forgot to mention that when I took mine to the dealership they told me "it is normal" because "it is basically a race car" but I don't believe their reasoning. Thank you.
Hey! Great review cant wait to get my M2. I have a question regarding the exhaust and the bluetooth controller. So in my M235i I had the performance exhaust, but it never came with a controller. I could only "open" the valves if I want into sport mode. Is there a difference regarding the sound when you go into sport mode and if you just open the valves with the controller? or will it be just as loud.
GeNuiNe212 I also had an M235i with the MPE. On the M2 the MPE works exactly like the one on your car with the changes in sound in sport and sport plus. With the Bluetooth controller and opening the valves it makes sport and sport plus even louder. So you end up with 6 total sound positions instead of 3. Good luck with your M2 and thanks for watching!
Ahh perfect! thats what I wanted to hear. I drove the M2 Performance at an event, but I couldnt find the remote haha. If its too quite I'll have to go for a downpipe :D
It gets pretty loud with the valves open. I don't think you'll be disappointed!
never see something like this bluetooth controller straight from bmw, which is pretty cool and i bough an m2
Does it drone on the closed valve mode on the highway? In my opinion, even on Comfort, I do hear a very mild droning on my M2. Great points at the end of the video, all very valid.
mitoda Thank you. Yes, it does drone slightly around 3k rpm but not too bad and has gotten better with time. Thanks for watching!
been also debating putting an aftermarket exhaust. I completely agree with you I would probably do the M performance because of the warranty and resale value, but can't ignore that sweet looking akrapovic exhaust, it's just pure engineering porn!
I love it 50% of the time but the highway drone is borderline making me want to go back to stock. Granted i have the afe catted downpipe which is more important than the catback exhaust to me.
So does this factory MPE upgrade come before order or after order? Because I was on their website and didn't see any option for it
After. It can be installed at the port or you can purchase it later and have it installed on your own. I did the ladder so I would have the original exhaust as well.
Do you think the M performance exhaust is a better option then one of the Dinan being they would both keep the warranty?
Luis Portilla I don’t have any experience with Dinan. I know they are good products but I couldn’t tell you which is better. Good luck with your decision.
Ok So I do not understand the Bluetooth part? Do the valves not fully open in sport plus like the factory setting? Or can you push this Bluetooth button and open in any mode? Also you said that you did not notice a power change. Does a factory M2 exhaust have resonators? Or is it a straight pipe to the the exhaust as well? Maybe this is why people usually get the power and sound kit together? Thanks for any help in answering my questions. 😊
you can use the bluetooth to open in any mode
How tall are you? My partner is only 160cm(5"3) tall, I'm hoping she can see over the dashboard.
bongmistt Sorry but I don't know. I'm 5'8 and the car fits me perfect.
Hi buddy. I just got a m2 w/ m performance exhaust. Ive been driving like 3 weeks so far. I faced a problem is that sometimes the valves will close by itself (after I open the valves with bluetooth control under sports mode). Have you ever faced this kind of problem so far ? Thank you for your time and hope to receive your reply.
Sheng Shi No, I have never had that happen but I did read of someone else that did. I don't know if they found the cause. Sorry to not be more help.
All right, thank you buddy, I am really appreciated.
This is a common issue. BMW will tell you it's "normal" for the bluetooth controller to turn off with RF interference. We've had our MPE system replaced completely and the second unit did the same thing. Don't waste your money.
Yeah, about a month ago the valves stated closing (from track mode) without any input from me on the controller. Took it back to BMW last week. They're clueless. They said they needed to check with the engineers in Germany. I will follow up with them this week. This issue, in combination with the cold start rattle, is too much. I will push them to refund the $ and put the stock exhaust back on. Then, I'll likely purchase the Dinan exhasut.
If your dropping the money you might as well drop another 1g and get the carbon fiber rear diffuser - I just got the m2 and I'm considering doing this exhaust/carbon fiber diffuser upgrade myself
Congrats on the car! The diffuser is awesome looking. I haven't decided which direction I want to go with all the carbon fiber stuff. I'm waiting to see what all comes out....
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i saw the vibrating while coldstart on another video today
Florian Yep, turns out it's a common problem.
Despite watching your video (and a few others), I purchased the MPE for my M2. This morning, I experienced my first cold start. What a disaster. The rattling, shaking, and metallic noises made the car sound and feel cheap. I don't think there's any way I can live with it. I can see from some of the comments that there isn't a solution. Does it ever get better or am I simply doomed?
By the way, great video. Thanks for doing it. Hoping that it was something as simple as ensuring that everything needed to tight in the install, I warned BMW service in advance about this issue. Didn't help.
Brad Copland i'm sorry to say that I have not found a fix. In the big scheme of things it shouldn't be a big deal but it bothers me every time. In addition to that I have a rattle on the rear deck lid of my car now that's also driving me crazy. Please let me know what you end up doing or if you find a fix. Thanks for watching!
I got my M2 two days ago, I am thinking about upgrading to the M exhaust, is the vibration that annoying that it will ruin the fun of startup or drive?
Amir Sadeghi Not if it’s installed properly. It never effected the drive on mine but after being adjusted by the dealer it has almost no vibration even during start up. At this point I would highly recommend it. Just make sure you test it after install. Congrats it’s an awesome car!
CAN you upgrade at BMW? I thought it was from-the-factory upgrade only, and once you bought it, it's too late.
Does the exhaust close every time you turn the car off? Or does it remain in the setting that you last had it on? Thank you for the great information!
closes brother
@@jhptsdx6275 Thanks, do you know why it is suggested to use ope valve on track course only?
Because the pops and bangs are too higher decibel, it's not performance related@@lucguenette7534
Because the loud pops and bangs are above legal sound limit, it's not performance related@@lucguenette7534
Nice review, is it possible to do a review on the M Sport suspension?
mrwhiffle Thanks! Are you talking about the coilovers?
My Garage Tv yeah, the m sport coilovers.
I'll see what I can do....
Your channel WILL grow.
+Tshiamo Setshedi Thanks I hope so!
Awwsome!
Before you bought the M2 and the factory M exhaust, have you considered putting the $4000 towards getting a used M4 instead?
tyau1234 No. I was 100% all in on the M2. Watch my M2 video if you want to see why. I love the driving dynamics of this car!
My Garage Tv you made a good choice. The M2 has its own characteristic, and will be an enthusiasts car choice. The M4 doesn't seem as special
I would get the black thing above the exhaust (not sure how it's called lol) in carbon too :)
Diffusor :D It's called diffusor
SilverWave I'm considering it but then I think the car needs more carbon to balance it out.
Does opening the valves affect the car's performance or does it just make it louder?
H1delta As far as I know it only makes it louder but some have said there is a performance increase. I can not really tell a difference except for the awesome sound! Thanks for watching!
I've owned over 50 cars in my life time & I know that factory installed options are better than when it's installed by the dealer. The few quirks you have on this car proves my point. I had the 30,000 mile service on my 2013 M3 a couple of months ago & I told the service writer that my front end was out of align. I got the car back & it stated on the WO that the alignment was fine. I knew better so when I bought new tires, I took it to an alignment specialist and their computer indicated all 4 wheels were out of align. My 2017 M2 is arriving in November & the first thing I'll do is have the alignment checked out at my expense. It'll be cheaper than having the tires wear out prematurely. Since it won't make it go faster, I'll stick with the stock exhaust & save $3k to $4k. Dealer mechanics are not nearly as good as factory mechanics, especially ///M mechanics.
Also, why call it performance exhaust when it apparently does not increase the horsepower or make it go faster? They should call it louder sound exhaust because that's all it does. When I bought my 2013, I added the competition package which included dynamic damper control, 19" alloy Y-spoke wheels, and it also lowered the car. That was a $2,500 option and it was/is worth every penny and it was done at the factory. Mind you, I'm not complaining and I'm sure the M2 will be great when it arrives next month. But if you're going to label something "performance", make it perform.
H1delta lol not a bad point
Overall, are very happy with the car? I'm considering getting one next year or the Lexus rcf, thanks
Art Sal Extremely happy. I highly recommend this car! Thanks for watching!
Did you ever fix the rattle
DC5dotty Yes the dealer was able to mostly fix it.
Just leave your stock exhaust it sounds great.
You should take your car to dyno. BMW do not say anything about increasing of power after MPE but i saw dyno result with m-performance exhaust and with 98 petrol it was almost 400 HP.
Tomasz Woźniak Wow! I might have to check that out. Thanks!
Catback exhuast will not gain any noticable power. Just isn't physically possible.
how does akrapovic does that ? www.akrapovic.com/#!/car/product/sports%20coupe/16911?brandId=19&modelId=796&yearId=4592
jgr Yes on turbo cars it's very possible and common
If the oem pipes are very small it's even bigger increase
Great summary. I have the MPE installed on my M2 and also have the same vibration issues during cold start, and I've read similar complaints on Bimmerpost. If you track down the cause and solution, let us know.
Wow, thanks for the comment! That's unfortunate to hear. I will be looking into it for sure. Thanks for watching!
2016 M2 MG MT owner here, same issue for me with the MPE here except I got 4 Titanium tips, didn't go for carbon fiber ones. Taken it to the dealer and they say it's a loose bolt issue, with new bolts the ticking noise is gone during cold starts and exhaust actually has less of a drone around 3k rpm! Best MPE review I've seen anywhere BTW, awesome job!
noiox8 This is encouraging! I was beginning to think I had to live with the vibration. Do you happen to remember which bolts were the problem? Thank you for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Hi noiox8, same here with the vibration. If you know which bolts were the problem please us know. I want to get rid of this as well. Also, did you try a cold start with open flaps? I think the vibration is less or I cannot hear it because it is just LOUD...
As a follow up to my previous post, I told BMW to either fix the rattle or put the stock exhaust back on. After several cold starts, I think they may have fixed my primary issue. Granted, the MPE still shutters on cold start but the intense vibration and rattle that permeated the car is gone. It's much improved and something I think I can live with. As I understand it, one of clamps or brackets was too close to the transmission case which caused the unpleasant metallic rattle. By repositioning that bracket they eliminated the interior rattle. Admittedly, I'm no mechanic, so if anyone is interested in more specific details, I would suggest contacting the shop foreman at Global Imports BMW in Atlanta. He can provide the specifics.
Great info. Thanks for sharing!
Brad Copland Hey guys, you might know it already: there is a new version of the MPE which is fixing the rattle. I am in Germany and asked for a replacement. You should do the same. The issue is known at the headquarters in Munich
Thanks for the message. Do you know if it's a kit designed to fix the rattle in installed exhaust systems or if it's a new or redesigned system?
It is a new redesigned system. No kit available AFAIK. FYI: I received a pleasant call from my dealer today and he told me that they have ordered a full new system for me. It is a warranty case so 0 costs for the customer. Will let you know if I notice any other difference after the replacement
Sounds good. Thanks.
Google search Mcchip-dkr apparently they pushed the M2 to 450HP with some 'simple ECU remaps' $10k I believe lol
Felix Castillo That's not cheap! But 450hp would be a beast.
Haha I concur
did you ever sort out the shaking vibration issue at cold start? i've seen it on other cars as well: ua-cam.com/video/qOlvdedagLc/v-deo.html
No, unfortunately I haven't. It seems to be a common issue with the exhaust. No one seems to know a fix but I'm still looking into it.
hey just wanted to let you know they stopped production of the MPE for the M2 because of this exact issue, and they are designing a new one. I would contact your dealership and see if there will be a buy back or exchange policy.
Thank you. I actually just read about that. I will be contacting BMW.
I just ordered a M2 with MPE, will be here in mid July. Do you have a link you can share about the newly designed MPE ? If this is true hopefully I can avoid these issues.
did you have any problems with the blue tooth controller of the exhaust so far?
Levente Deli no, none.
@@MyGarageTV1 strange. lot of people have this issue. have you heard about it?
@@MyGarageTV1 how many miles you have in your car with this exhaust?
Levente Deli Sorry I don’t have the car any longer.
6 years later and I’m just trying to find how many actually ordered it on the car.
Exhaust should never be looked upon as a huge power upgrade, maybe 2hp at most and some weight reduction. Otherwise, the downpipes is where you get more hp. AWESOME CAR!!!
CrispCarGuru That's true. Thanks!
2HP? On japanese cars like Silvia and WRX the catback can gain 25+ HP because the oem pipe is like 25cm :)
Downpipe will help response and turbo spool
Say there are 5 reasons. Only names 4. Now I don't know if I can trust your opinion on the exhaust
SuburbVids You weren't paying close enough attention. One of the points has two parts...😉
Bmw don’t make the exhaust or Bluetooth thing
I shut the video off as soon as you said, “just shy of $4000“
it sounds like an exotic, better than mustangs
$300 bucks per tip lol....I bought M2 standard exhaust with all 4 tips for $170 :)
exhaust you can by $ 300 what ever you want. . the car it's okay but not worth money. cheap interior. looks like any bmw. just different body kit that's it. 370z nismo much better for the money
Dario Milardovic I disagree but thanks for watching.
Dario Milardovic As a previous 370Z owner, I’m very curious at comparing those 2 cars. Will pick up my M2 in few days.