Crypto here, appreciate the cast and the commentary! this was a particularly sobering game for us. Next time we won't face our opponents so blindfolded and be a bit more proactive!
Just realizing I pronounced "Turtle" as "Turtley" in the beginning, whoops! But thanks for watching, send me some replays if you want to be featured in a cast!
@@dhruvb38 Will do! Do you have any replays you want me to go over? I’m always looking for some good ones, so definitely send me any if you feel comfortable!
@@TheGreenSquier Will keep it in mind! I currently can only beat AI: Adaptive, and play with friends against AIX (which we lose, AIX is hilarious when you see what they do to their allies lol), so haven't done any PVP.
@@TheGreenSquier I do also have a request, if you find any games that have aeon in them, I would be most happy. I find them real hard to play (I just picked it randomly, and I usually like to get good at one faction in RTSs) especially early game with all the specialized units
I strongly disagree on your stance on the mech upgrade being assisted by two engineers. There are 26 mechs outside the base on this map the assumption you get 1/4 of them as the enemy team gets half and your team gets half split between you and your ally. that is only 12-14 mass per second. The upgraded mech alone is worth 6. The other thing is that the limiting factor is often mass not energy. In this case there is a large amount of travel distance so you're better off spending that energy the hydro and normal plants are producing to get a reliable mass income. The problem is that the mass they gained by a early upgrade didn't get converted to units or eco.
We’ve talked about this extensively on my Discord, where I have some 2,000+ rated players on there who give free coaching. Sladow (2,000+ rated)’s method for new players is to not tech up anything, factories, commander, and yes mex’s, until you can comfortably win in the T1 spam phase in 90% of games. I’m mostly passing along the advice they gave in my Discord, feel free to join if you want to discuss with them :)
This is why this game is so unattractive. FAF looks so fun on paper, all these immersive large scale battles with sci-fi vehicles of varying capabilities, but once you get in, you quickly realize that you have to give up pretty much all the immersion if you want to be competitive. The game could just completely ditch the 3D units/buildings and the 3D map, and just be a bunch of 2D shape icon on a pre-rendered texture of a map and pretty much nothing would change when it comes to competitive play. It's a bad gameplay design when being competitive and being immersed are mutually exclusive factors.
It's an unfortunate truth that the more competitive you get, the less leisure time you have to watch the cool action happen. This is true for any strategy game though, whether it's Supreme Commander, Age of Empires, Red Alert, Warno, etc. However, campaigns exist for all of these games, which are still really fun and appeal to a more casual audience! Additionally, there are some great casters for SC that do give special attention to the cinematic battles, Gyle being the biggest one for SC. It's also okay not to enjoy competitive gameplay. This doesn't just go for Supreme Commander, but any RTS (or really any game at all). Some people have played Age of Empires for 20+ years and never touched matchmaking, and that's okay! Play however you want, and how ever you enjoy playing.
@@TheGreenSquier Of course it's not true for any strategy game. It's really only true for Supreme Commander-like games. In regular RTS games, like AOE/C&C/Starcraft series you never have to make a choice between seeing the game art and managing macro level strategy. In regular RTS games there's no macro zoom level which replaces game art with 2D icons on a pre-rendered 2D texture of a map.
I loved Empire at War’s solution to this! A quick button that provided cinematic shots of the action. It would still be a hindrance in competitive play i guess.
@@TheGreenSquier yeah I agree. This game is clearly not LudviKKoutnyArt thing, and they really don't get a vote if this is not their type of game. I have played all of these types of games, and I see nothing wrong with SUP commanders games graphics. In fact the 3d aspect is handled very well. I've played several games where I actively switch and only play top down view because of a failed 3d approach, but supreme commanders 3d is good. Btw, I have 543 hrs in Forged Alliance, probably 1000 hrs in all of the sup com games. Although despite the hrs in this game, I'm still bit of a noob, especially for pvp! lol
Constructive crit inbound: All you do is talk about how they should or shouldnt play. Thats not really a cast. You should lable your videos Game critic to learn to play or something. That would fit what you are doing better. A few corrective remarks works but not the entire game.
Hey that's honestly a good point, my main goal with these is to give advice / tips rather than just spectate. I'll try to think of different ways I can brand it, thanks for the feedback
Crypto here, appreciate the cast and the commentary! this was a particularly sobering game for us. Next time we won't face our opponents so blindfolded and be a bit more proactive!
Just realizing I pronounced "Turtle" as "Turtley" in the beginning, whoops!
But thanks for watching, send me some replays if you want to be featured in a cast!
thanks for the uploads you helped me to get started with this game just started out last week
Keep em coming! I'm learning a lot
Still get stuck going past T2 but getting better
@@dhruvb38 Will do!
Do you have any replays you want me to go over? I’m always looking for some good ones, so definitely send me any if you feel comfortable!
@@TheGreenSquier Will keep it in mind! I currently can only beat AI: Adaptive, and play with friends against AIX (which we lose, AIX is hilarious when you see what they do to their allies lol), so haven't done any PVP.
@@TheGreenSquier I do also have a request, if you find any games that have aeon in them, I would be most happy. I find them real hard to play (I just picked it randomly, and I usually like to get good at one faction in RTSs) especially early game with all the specialized units
I strongly disagree on your stance on the mech upgrade being assisted by two engineers. There are 26 mechs outside the base on this map the assumption you get 1/4 of them as the enemy team gets half and your team gets half split between you and your ally. that is only 12-14 mass per second. The upgraded mech alone is worth 6.
The other thing is that the limiting factor is often mass not energy. In this case there is a large amount of travel distance so you're better off spending that energy the hydro and normal plants are producing to get a reliable mass income.
The problem is that the mass they gained by a early upgrade didn't get converted to units or eco.
We’ve talked about this extensively on my Discord, where I have some 2,000+ rated players on there who give free coaching.
Sladow (2,000+ rated)’s method for new players is to not tech up anything, factories, commander, and yes mex’s, until you can comfortably win in the T1 spam phase in 90% of games.
I’m mostly passing along the advice they gave in my Discord, feel free to join if you want to discuss with them :)
This is why this game is so unattractive. FAF looks so fun on paper, all these immersive large scale battles with sci-fi vehicles of varying capabilities, but once you get in, you quickly realize that you have to give up pretty much all the immersion if you want to be competitive. The game could just completely ditch the 3D units/buildings and the 3D map, and just be a bunch of 2D shape icon on a pre-rendered texture of a map and pretty much nothing would change when it comes to competitive play. It's a bad gameplay design when being competitive and being immersed are mutually exclusive factors.
It's an unfortunate truth that the more competitive you get, the less leisure time you have to watch the cool action happen. This is true for any strategy game though, whether it's Supreme Commander, Age of Empires, Red Alert, Warno, etc.
However, campaigns exist for all of these games, which are still really fun and appeal to a more casual audience! Additionally, there are some great casters for SC that do give special attention to the cinematic battles, Gyle being the biggest one for SC.
It's also okay not to enjoy competitive gameplay. This doesn't just go for Supreme Commander, but any RTS (or really any game at all). Some people have played Age of Empires for 20+ years and never touched matchmaking, and that's okay! Play however you want, and how ever you enjoy playing.
@@TheGreenSquier Of course it's not true for any strategy game. It's really only true for Supreme Commander-like games. In regular RTS games, like AOE/C&C/Starcraft series you never have to make a choice between seeing the game art and managing macro level strategy. In regular RTS games there's no macro zoom level which replaces game art with 2D icons on a pre-rendered 2D texture of a map.
I loved Empire at War’s solution to this! A quick button that provided cinematic shots of the action.
It would still be a hindrance in competitive play i guess.
@@TheGreenSquier yeah I agree. This game is clearly not LudviKKoutnyArt thing, and they really don't get a vote if this is not their type of game.
I have played all of these types of games, and I see nothing wrong with SUP commanders games graphics. In fact the 3d aspect is handled very well. I've played several games where I actively switch and only play top down view because of a failed 3d approach, but supreme commanders 3d is good.
Btw, I have 543 hrs in Forged Alliance, probably 1000 hrs in all of the sup com games. Although despite the hrs in this game, I'm still bit of a noob, especially for pvp! lol
Constructive crit inbound: All you do is talk about how they should or shouldnt play. Thats not really a cast. You should lable your videos Game critic to learn to play or something. That would fit what you are doing better. A few corrective remarks works but not the entire game.
Hey that's honestly a good point, my main goal with these is to give advice / tips rather than just spectate. I'll try to think of different ways I can brand it, thanks for the feedback
The title being called "FAF Coaching" is probably pretty clear. I think everyone is just used to faf videos being casting.
I'm glad the title is clear... now! I changed it from what it originally was, it was called "Low Elo Cast" originally ;)