A Station in Two Counties at Once

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  • @dave771
    @dave771 9 місяців тому +65

    Until the platforms were moved, Sawbridgeworth station used to have one platform in Essex and one platform in Hertfordshire.

    • @SprinterPlayz
      @SprinterPlayz 9 місяців тому +1

      were they staggered originally?

    • @dave771
      @dave771 9 місяців тому +2

      @@SprinterPlayzYes, they were originally staggered either side of the level crossing.

    • @SprinterPlayz
      @SprinterPlayz 9 місяців тому +1

      @@dave771 what county is it in now

    • @dave771
      @dave771 9 місяців тому +2

      @@SprinterPlayzHertfordshire

  • @MaidaValeTom
    @MaidaValeTom 9 місяців тому +26

    Another interesting one is Blackwater, The station itself being in just Hampshire. However, the short station approach road that leads into the car park has sections in Hampshire, Surrey and Berkshire meaning you have to cross 3 counties in order to get from the main road to the station entrance.
    Trains also cross straight into Berkshire as they leave the station in the direction of Reading, and cross straight into Surrey in the direction of Guildford/Gatwick.

    • @MaidaValeTom
      @MaidaValeTom 9 місяців тому +8

      The station approach road is only 172 metres long by the way, yet spans three county borders.

    • @randomguy-tg7ok
      @randomguy-tg7ok 9 місяців тому

      Gonna have to question the "cross straight into Surrey" thing - unless google maps is lying, they don't do that until just before North Camp.

    • @MaidaValeTom
      @MaidaValeTom 9 місяців тому +1

      @@randomguy-tg7ok Google maps isn’t pinpoint accurate but it’s near enough, The small jut out that is displayed on Google near the bottom half of admiralty way does officially cross to the other side of the railway even if only for a few metres (and in railway terms, a couple of seconds) that google neglects to show, so that statement is technically true albeit a bit clickbaity.
      The borders around the station itself however are easily viewable on google as the borders tend to be far more accurate when roads are involved.

    • @Nooticus
      @Nooticus 9 місяців тому

      Super interesting!

  • @katrinabryce
    @katrinabryce 9 місяців тому +9

    I used to work near Blackwater station many years ago. That station is entirely within Hampshire, but only just. If you walk to the Tesco just across the road from the station, you cross two county borders, briefly into a corner of Surrey, then the Tesco is in Berkshire.

  • @AFCManUk
    @AFCManUk 9 місяців тому +15

    Those SWR 158's are just the best.
    Properly padded comfy seats, 2+2 seating, perfecto!

  • @joshuacole6624
    @joshuacole6624 9 місяців тому +19

    Dean Station is located in the village of West Dean. Most of the village is split in half by the Hampshire-Wiltshire border. E.g. The old pub and the river. So the train station is one of many things split across the border. Very cool. I would have never guessed that Dean station would be looked at as it's such a small station. Thanks for showing it, even for only a minute.

  • @OnTheMoveTransport
    @OnTheMoveTransport 9 місяців тому +16

    Weirdly Mottisfont and Dunbridge, Dean and Romsey were managed by GWR until post Covid.

  • @8r1tK1Dtia
    @8r1tK1Dtia 9 місяців тому +6

    Nice vid. I also have suggestions for Pointless Journeys and Point to Point: St Albans City to St Albans Abbey and Charing Cross (London) to Charing Cross (Glasgow). (Bonus points if you only use National Rail for both routes.) And sticking with the vid, you might as well do Redbridge Tube station to the Redbridge station mentioned in the video. Happy Wednesday!

    • @GabrielsReviews
      @GabrielsReviews 2 місяці тому

      Charing Cross (London) to Charing Cross (Glasgow)
      Southeastern CHX- London Bridge
      TL London Bridge to KGX
      walk to Euston then Avanti to Glasgow Central
      then Scotrail to Partick and back to Charing Cross

    • @8r1tK1Dtia
      @8r1tK1Dtia 2 місяці тому +1

      @@GabrielsReviews My preferred route for the sake of challenge from London Bridge onwards would be:
      Southern London Bridge - WFJ changing at Selhurst
      LNR WFJ to Bedford changing at Bletchley
      EMR Bedford to Derby/Sheffield changing at Kettering (and between Loughborough and EMD)
      XC Derby/Sheffield to Edinburgh direct or TPE/Northern Sheffield only to Doncaster/York
      LNER Doncaster/York to Edinburgh or TPE York only to Edinburgh
      Scotrail Edinburgh to Charing Cross (Glasgow) directly only

    • @GabrielsReviews
      @GabrielsReviews 2 місяці тому

      @@8r1tK1Dtia Fair enough. I suppose that's another way of doing it .

  • @RobinPalmerTV
    @RobinPalmerTV 9 місяців тому +8

    That factoid about Dean is a fabulous one.

  • @andythorpey1377
    @andythorpey1377 9 місяців тому +4

    Suggestion for a point to point: Newcastle upon Tyne to Newcastle under Lyme

  • @SpudderRail
    @SpudderRail 9 місяців тому +14

    It wouldn't be the UK railway without something going wrong lol

  • @Brettski_1234
    @Brettski_1234 9 місяців тому +2

    Gold Coast Airport in Australia is in two different states, the terminal and runways are in both Queensland and New South Wales. Only NSW uses daylight savings time so the airport is in two different time zones at the moment

  • @lewismelrose4334
    @lewismelrose4334 9 місяців тому +1

    I think youll find Fishersgate is half in West Sussex and half in Brighton and Hove (East Sussex)

  • @chasportch1
    @chasportch1 9 місяців тому +3

    Roding Valley station on the Hainault loop of the Central line - one platform and exit are in Greater London and the other platform and exit are in Essex.

  • @LouisOnAir
    @LouisOnAir 9 місяців тому +8

    I think Fishersgate might straddle East and West Sussex, or at least the entrance is in one county and the platforms in the other

    • @Ollie1660
      @Ollie1660 9 місяців тому +2

      It does indeed

  • @AndrewJohnson-ur3lw
    @AndrewJohnson-ur3lw 9 місяців тому +1

    Going a bit further afield, the station at Brenner is in both Austria and Italy. I went by train from Innsbruck and was able to say I had been to Italy for 45 minutes whilst awaiting the train back down the valley.

  • @raidraig
    @raidraig 9 місяців тому +1

    Interesting to note on the topic of county lines that because of the route of the train line Burnham (bucks) is actually located just south of the county border in Berkshire even tho the village of Burnham is in Buckinghamshire

  • @adrianbromfild8624
    @adrianbromfild8624 9 місяців тому +2

    I am pleased to see you experienced some of the chaos the Exeter line throws up and why the line needs dualling west of Salisbury

  • @generalbacon6955
    @generalbacon6955 9 місяців тому +1

    Earlswood station is in two counties too!! The station entrance and the north side of the platforms are in the West Midlands, but the south side is in Warwickshire

  • @dorsettyke
    @dorsettyke 9 місяців тому +4

    Another interesting video Nick!
    As a northerner living in Dorset I'm really enjoying this little series. 👍
    Interesting little fact about Templecombe. At one time you could change onto the Somerset and Dorset line there (Bournemouth to Bath) 🙂

  • @LuperSoop69
    @LuperSoop69 9 місяців тому +4

    Ik its London, but Tooting (TL)s platforms are in Merton, but the entrance building is in Wandsworth!

    • @TimothyWorel-xj9he
      @TimothyWorel-xj9he 9 місяців тому

      Wonder what Wolfie Smith made of that when he stood as Tooting Popular Front candidate.

  • @grassytramtracks
    @grassytramtracks 9 місяців тому +4

    I wonder why that GWR train stopped, they're not ever scheduled to stop there anymore

  • @chunkyboyjames
    @chunkyboyjames 9 місяців тому +2

    Dean is still not as interesting as Euroairport Basel/Muhouse/Freiburg (yes, that’s the actual name of the airport). It has TWO IATA codes (BSL/MLH), a split terminal (half in France, half in Switzerland), and split access roads (some lead only into Switzerland, others only into France), and depending upon where you fly into the airport from, you either exit through Swiss border controls, or through French border controls.

    • @nathanw9770
      @nathanw9770 9 місяців тому

      Seems like an overly complicated location for an airport. Bet the commuters hate the airport planners guts!

  • @Cowman9791
    @Cowman9791 9 місяців тому +1

    6:42, not quite, the next stop after Chandlers ford is indeed Romsey, but trains terminate there, probably because there isn't demand for more services into Salsibury, particularly when GWR stopping at Romsey is taken into account. It's just a destination that an average commuter in that area doesn't need to know about, when the train already calls at Romsey. To be fair, this a case relatively similar to the London Circle line, where it starts on a branch line, reaches a certain point, then loops back around and back to that point to terminate.

  • @TedJM
    @TedJM 9 місяців тому +3

    TMC is my local, the platform on the other side exists because before the beeching cuts there used to be a line that went up to Castle Cary and down to Bournemouth, that's now dead and gone unfortunately.

    • @philipnesbitt3334
      @philipnesbitt3334 3 місяці тому

      The northbound line from TMC went up through Evercreech Jnc, Radstock and on to Bath Green Park and was the Somerset and Dorset Joint Railway. Castle Cary (north/south) is on the Weymouth to Westbury and on to Bristol/Swindon line. This passes under the Salisbury to Exeter line just east of Yeovil and was ex GWR. There is a connecting line from Yeovil Jnc down to Yeovil Pen Mill which is the station on the ex GWR line.

  • @rosiefay7283
    @rosiefay7283 2 місяці тому

    An interesting station in this regard is Knighton: a station in Shropshire, England that serves a town in Powys, Wales. Its car park straddles the border.

  • @ChilledGamerUK
    @ChilledGamerUK 9 місяців тому

    The Salisbury 6 Loop is my local line and use it pretty much daily for work and leisure.
    SWT/SWR often ran the services to these stations, so in April 2020 the 3 stations (Monttisfont & Dunbridge, Dean and Romsey) were absorbed into the SWR station family. GWR rarely ran services to Monttisfont & Dunbridge and Dean due to the long distance and often delayed Cardiff to Portsmouth service would skip these stations.
    A lot of the refurbishment interior and some exterior of the 158/159s were put on hold due to COVID and with the franchise agreement just around and corner and not knowing if it was to be extended, this was also another reason. SWR contract expires next year so I doubt we'll see any more work done in the way of rebranding until they know if they've won it.
    As and when you get an SWR Spouse/Partner travel card, there are so many amazing local lines to explore, some of which you've done. Finish the Salisbury 6 loop, Southampton to Portsmouth stopper, Lymington Branch Line and the Island Line, which has lots of walking/cycle tracks along the disused lines and station buildings.

  • @h0pidol825
    @h0pidol825 9 місяців тому +4

    Lower Sydenham. Half in Bromley (and therefore has a kent postal address) and half in Lewisham (with a london postcode)

    • @Gregdotgreg
      @Gregdotgreg 9 місяців тому

      But they're both in Greater London! Postal addresses don't have anything to do with it; in fact, the Royal Mail stopped using counties in the 1990s due to the confusion

    • @nathanw9770
      @nathanw9770 9 місяців тому

      Lower Sydenham is actually completely in SE26, which stretches out to include Kangley Bridge Road, making it London by postcode. Grove Park station however is in both London and Kent by postcode as it borders SE12 and BR1.

    • @Gregdotgreg
      @Gregdotgreg 9 місяців тому

      @@nathanw9770 postcodes are just an administrative thing for the Royal Mail, they don't dictate what county a location is in. BR1 is in London. The Royal Mail's boundaries don't match up with other boundaries

  • @paulharvey9149
    @paulharvey9149 9 місяців тому +1

    The present Templecombe station dates only from 1985. The other platform that belonged to the original one, also had platforms on the Somerset & Dorset Railway, which intersected the LSWR line this point - I think at a lower level. It would have been interesting to see whether any trace of this remained; but you weren't to know as it all happened a rather long time before you were born! By the way, the station of the Welsh town of Knighton is actually in England...!!

  • @ReubenAshwell
    @ReubenAshwell 9 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant video Nick, A station in 2 different counties? That's so cool. It's an exciting day on the rails when things go wrong isn't it?

  • @BluestarFanOfficial
    @BluestarFanOfficial 9 місяців тому

    The good old Bluestar 36 was quite a rare route and one of the disused routes on the whole Bluestar network sadly got withdrawn around this time last year due to cuts by Hampshire County Council along with the 39 also operated by Bluestar

  • @Eurobrasil550
    @Eurobrasil550 9 місяців тому +1

    Knighton station on the Heart of Wales line, is actually right next to the English /Welsh border Knighton(the town) is in Powys Wales, but its station in Shropshire England.

  • @Vanmanyo
    @Vanmanyo 9 місяців тому +4

    Great video as always Nick! Interesting and original idea!

  • @chrismundy6213
    @chrismundy6213 9 місяців тому

    Really good to see my local area and stations in videos. Keep up the good work!

  • @m20newell
    @m20newell 9 місяців тому

    Another interesting fact for Dean and Mottisfont & Dunbridge is that GWR/FGW managed the stations for about 8/9 years when no GWR services served them. SWR started managing the stations in 2020.

  • @martinevans7090
    @martinevans7090 9 місяців тому

    5:15 Ah, the Mill Arms in Dunbridge - fun fact, former US president Jimmy Carter once stayed there whilst on a fly fishing trip on the River Test.

  • @tommarshall1660
    @tommarshall1660 9 місяців тому

    Ah, d'Artagnan, it happens to us all at times. Good how you kept your cool and showed us a few villages to boot. Well done keep up the good work.

  • @JBFlytography
    @JBFlytography 9 місяців тому

    Yoker station entrance is in the Glasgow City boundary but the platforms are in Dunbartonshire.

  • @andrewnelson4057
    @andrewnelson4057 9 місяців тому +2

    The old Woodhead Station was a similar cross border location, part in Cheshire, and part in Lancashire.

  • @Marcsharp82
    @Marcsharp82 9 місяців тому +1

    I wonder if the GWR service did an additional stop.

  • @Andrewjg_89
    @Andrewjg_89 9 місяців тому +2

    You should do Sawbridgeworth which is in Essex. But it’s right on the border with Hertfordshire. And perhaps go to other railway stations that are on the county border.

  • @JakeClarke-w7q
    @JakeClarke-w7q 9 місяців тому

    Knockholt station is in Greater London (London Borough of Bromley) and The Sevenoaks District of Kent

  • @idotrains
    @idotrains 9 місяців тому +3

    On the 2nd of march at 17.30 there is a railtour at Winchester can u go see it there please nick

  • @Nooticus
    @Nooticus 9 місяців тому

    Great video, love these adventures!

  • @jacobporrett
    @jacobporrett 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing Nick.

  • @epislog178
    @epislog178 9 місяців тому +3

    What about Shoreham (Kent) to Shoreham-by-sea (West Sussex)?

  • @russellb1212
    @russellb1212 9 місяців тому

    Class 158 action, always to be enjoyed, great fact about Dean

  • @DavidSmith-648
    @DavidSmith-648 9 місяців тому +1

    I think Knighton station is in two countRies. If it isn't it must be the only English station with full bilingual English/Cymraeg signage.

    • @Eurobrasil550
      @Eurobrasil550 9 місяців тому +1

      It is just in England by a few meters, the actual town of Knighton being in Wales.

  • @AndreVentress
    @AndreVentress 9 місяців тому

    The loop service goes through to Eastleigh, Chandlers Ford and Romsey, it doesn't go back to Salisbury

  • @jakedovey7488
    @jakedovey7488 9 місяців тому

    I think the craziest one is in Malvern, a reasonably sized town weird town (technically) that has two train stations, Great Malvern and Malvern link stations!

  • @nathanw9770
    @nathanw9770 9 місяців тому

    An even more interesting station i think is Hither Green, one of my locals, as it's station entrance sits diagonally on the prime meridian line.

  • @tomasc9613
    @tomasc9613 9 місяців тому

    I think you’ve run into the main issue with the Salisbury to Exeter line. More trains are running than the single track sections can support. Any delay there compounds for the full day and is only resolved overnight

  • @fussyboy2000
    @fussyboy2000 9 місяців тому +1

    If you found Dean exciting then Bayerisch Eisenstein is gonna blow your mind! (PS Hope you claimed your Delay Repay.)

  • @westmidlandstransport
    @westmidlandstransport 9 місяців тому +2

    nice video, Nick! :)

  • @davebinsweden
    @davebinsweden 9 місяців тому

    Another good one, but you could have done S&D history in Templecombe, and some more background on the lines around Salisbury, Andover and Whitchurch. Still, what's gone is gone and it's probably not coming back ... Except that Chandler's Ford did come back from the dead.

  • @PamelaBane
    @PamelaBane 9 місяців тому

    Thanks Nick for another entertaining video.

  • @laura_shannon_
    @laura_shannon_ 9 місяців тому +1

    My grandparents in Kent, where they live their town and the town/😮village that borders it are so close that all you have to do is go around the corner and you’re in the other town/village and could be mistaken as being the same place to people that don’t know the area.
    Anyways, they were living in a house before I was born where half was in the town and half was in the other town/village and they had to pay two council taxes… They soon moved 😂

    • @Eurobrasil550
      @Eurobrasil550 9 місяців тому +1

      There is a cul de sac in Dartford Kent, that of course by being a cul de sac can only be entered /exited by one other road, that road is in Greater London (London borough of Bexley) As the GLC/Kent boundary runs across the cul de sac, just after you enter it, it is cut of from the rest of Kent, only being accesible by crossing into Greater London first.

  • @MichaelCampin
    @MichaelCampin 9 місяців тому

    Have you thought how long it would take to visit every Central station in the UK.Now that could be an epic journey.

  • @Annaliviaville
    @Annaliviaville 9 місяців тому +1

    Thx for going to S’TON central

  • @Nicolaizans
    @Nicolaizans 9 місяців тому

    Great video! Southampton!!! Something very local to me

  • @Djengland2010
    @Djengland2010 9 місяців тому +2

    I love your content your the best can you do shenfield to Sheffield but you should go to Billericay before that

  • @Thornaby37
    @Thornaby37 9 місяців тому +1

    Has anyone told Jen that SWR are experts in how to pull a TPE 😅

  • @thomasburke2683
    @thomasburke2683 9 місяців тому

    The original platform was probably short enough to be entirely in Wiltshire.

  • @Sim0nTrains
    @Sim0nTrains 9 місяців тому +5

    I didn't knew that Dean Station was on the border with the county of Wiltshire and Hampshire. Shame about the signalling issue but it happens. Great video

    • @londonoliverground
      @londonoliverground 9 місяців тому +1

      What about dean and sage station?

    • @Sim0nTrains
      @Sim0nTrains 9 місяців тому +1

      @@londonoliverground Dean and sage?

  • @ENCTrainspotting
    @ENCTrainspotting 9 місяців тому

    Great video as always👍

  • @StanleyV64
    @StanleyV64 9 місяців тому

    Does anyone know why all the SWR trains have changed their announcer from Celia Drummond? It was an unpleasant surprise when I boarded a train and wasn't greeted with the usual voice!

  • @Jensen685
    @Jensen685 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video!

  • @Going-Full-Circle
    @Going-Full-Circle 9 місяців тому

    Its interesting to see that one station can be in two different counties 😊

  • @iliketheLNER
    @iliketheLNER 9 місяців тому

    Wylam is in Tyne and Wear and Northumberland

  • @customtransport2777
    @customtransport2777 9 місяців тому

    Roding Valley is another example

  • @martinryan2370
    @martinryan2370 9 місяців тому

    Ilkeston station is in Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire

    • @rockerjim8045
      @rockerjim8045 9 місяців тому +1

      the border in this area is the River Erewash. Ilkeston Station is wholly in Nottinghamshire and the town is in Derbyshire

    • @martinryan2370
      @martinryan2370 9 місяців тому

      @@rockerjim8045 actually one of the exits is in Derbyshire because I
      GPS the site .
      The border of the river has been moved a few times in certain places
      Wether by the railway or mining or
      Canal excavations.
      Try doing Toton sidings

  • @officialmcdeath
    @officialmcdeath 9 місяців тому

    On a related note, for a while the automated announcements on the lines out of Charing Cross pronounced Gillingham in the Dorsetshire mode, a regular source of facepalm \m/

  • @Papyrus_Railway_Photography
    @Papyrus_Railway_Photography 9 місяців тому

    Pointless journey idea: Runcorn to Runcorn east

  • @davidw1518
    @davidw1518 9 місяців тому

    Genuine question: what's the difference between South West Trains and South Western Railway? Which is the one that serves Waterloo, or do they both?

    • @NickBadley
      @NickBadley  9 місяців тому +1

      South West Trains was the TOC that came before South Western Railway :)

  • @carolinecrollick6305
    @carolinecrollick6305 9 місяців тому

    We love Tisbury and. Gillingham stations and Salisbury

  • @ArjunanVTech12
    @ArjunanVTech12 9 місяців тому

    you could do Redbridge (SWR) to Redbridge (Underground)

  • @andymerrett
    @andymerrett 3 місяці тому

    £1000 fine for not closing the gate! Ouch!

  • @annabelholland
    @annabelholland 9 місяців тому

    I thought it read 'two countRies at once', meaning for example, a station located in both England and Wales.

  • @AndrewMagnus-py3xg
    @AndrewMagnus-py3xg 9 місяців тому

    Nice video mate

  • @james49919
    @james49919 9 місяців тому

    I am curious about something Nick! It appears that in most of your videos you are sat backwards! Any reason for that as I hate sitting backwards lol!

  • @-MapEnthusiastjj4eu
    @-MapEnthusiastjj4eu 8 місяців тому

    If dean is both in Hampshire and Wiltshire its also in two different regions Wiltshire is in the south west region of England and Hampshire is in the south east region. I don't think theres any other station in Britain that is in two regions

  • @ianhosier4042
    @ianhosier4042 9 місяців тому

    Wonder if Dean station gets 2 council tax bills? Dumb that there is only a single track between Salisbury and Exeter - damn you Beeching!

  • @EmmaGeorge-xq9rc
    @EmmaGeorge-xq9rc 9 місяців тому

    Hi I got a point to point Suggestion maybe you could do Dorchester -Portchester

  • @onlineamiga
    @onlineamiga 9 місяців тому

    I read the title as Countries! So having realised you meant counties, i am now curious if there are any train stations straddling two countries anywhere. Would have to be open borders so either Schengen or the UK Common Travel Area.

    • @officialmcdeath
      @officialmcdeath 9 місяців тому

      Chiasso and Bayerisch Eisenstein come to mind \m/

  • @tubegirl1013
    @tubegirl1013 9 місяців тому +1

    technically farringdon EL is in 2 counties too😄

  • @garethsmith2250
    @garethsmith2250 9 місяців тому

    20 + mins late=swt delay repay as it's a signal issue

  • @EmmaGeorge-xq9rc
    @EmmaGeorge-xq9rc 9 місяців тому

    Nick Bradly My son loves your UA-cam Content Please Don’t Stop. Sorry I’m I spell your Name Wrong

  • @ElijahsTransport
    @ElijahsTransport 9 місяців тому

    Great video 👍

  • @KEITHMU
    @KEITHMU 9 місяців тому

    As far as I can recall Dean, Moffisfont & Dunbridge and maybe Romsey were never Network South East painted stations and were part of Regional Railways as the Cardiff - Portsmouth Harbour service was the main train through.

  • @hanson417
    @hanson417 9 місяців тому

    At least you did get a thumbnail for this kind of random video 🤔

  • @Jdtrainspotter
    @Jdtrainspotter 7 місяців тому

    Please do Maidstone west to Maidstone east pointless journey

  • @Toasted_IQ
    @Toasted_IQ 9 місяців тому +1

    i really want to be just like nick
    calm interesting etc

  • @QALibrary
    @QALibrary 9 місяців тому

    wonder if there are stations that go across countries' borders and not just there to check passports etal?

  • @garethsmith2250
    @garethsmith2250 9 місяців тому

    Southampton my stomping ground

  • @davidroddini1512
    @davidroddini1512 9 місяців тому

    Did he have a Salisbury steak? 🤔

  • @nleak92
    @nleak92 9 місяців тому

    Are there any stations that are in 2 countries at once?

  • @exploderendekippenproducti3370
    @exploderendekippenproducti3370 9 місяців тому

    Kinda clickbait but not really, good video as always❤

  • @allansheldrake4832
    @allansheldrake4832 8 місяців тому

    do you love sitting backwards or something

  • @Cross_Trainspotting
    @Cross_Trainspotting 9 місяців тому

    Point to point chelford to shelford