Unboxing DGT CENTAUR Chess Computer and How it Works
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- I unbox the DGT Centaur and demo all the key features. I also give my thoughts on who will enjoy this machine - and who might not. The DGT Centaur is unique in that it intelligently adapts to your chess play level while playing in a human-like style. This means you'll have a chance to win while being challenged! The Centaur really focuses on providing an intuitive, distraction free, and innovative chess playing experience, solo. If you or someone you know would love to play chess and is struggling to find a chess player at a skill level that's matched evenly, the Centaur is that perfect chess friend. While other chess computers boast hundreds of different features, DGT has packed only the most essential into the Centaur, keeping the experience free of complexity. For this reason, connoisseurs might be disappointed. It's more appealing to casual players wanting to play, practice, and improve their game and not so much for collectors - in my opinion. That said, it can play at it's highest at nearly world champion level, so you'll know that the hints, or analysis provided are very high level suggestions. What if you want to review a game of your own, or a game you saw somewhere? Setting it up on the Centaur is very easy. From this position you can then play or watch the computer's analysis of best moves. While the features are not as extensive as the most advanced computers - in fact very limited, the comfortable size and playability without dependence on the display is impressive.
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I received my new DGT Centaur.
I spent some time with it, and I found I really like the way it plays. It does feel more 'natural' or 'human', than other engines. There isn't that 'wall of resistance' that you can feel when playing against a computer, once you played your first blunder. I'm spending more time with it than my DGT PI/SMART BOARD rig right now.
My initial impression was a good one. For a self contained chess computer, they did a great job. I really like the fact I can move the pieces naturally. Not 'press and set' them. I like that the board and the pieces are 'normal' sized not miniature pieces or board.
While the pieces do slide too easily, for my taste, over the board, if you knock them over or slide them out of place, the display has a record of where they are on the board. Just place them where they were. The board isn't as 'fragile' as some people made it out to be. The underside of the board isn't as 'fragile' as some would have you think. It is reinforced. The Centaur is powered by the supplied adapter, or it’s own internal battery when not plugged in. The unit worked with my power bank as well for charging the internal battery. The ELO rating of the DGT Centaur is rated between 300 and 3000, depending on the playing mode you selected.
Each game is like a 'give and take', 'push and pull', 'elastic' type game. It really does feel like you are playing someone around your level, giving you a good game. Way more enjoyable than getting SMASHED by an engine.
I think with this machine, in one of the first two modes (Friendly, Challenging), if you don’t blunder too badly, you could at least get draw, or win every now and then. It seems to force you to really pay attention, defend and not leave hanging pieces. If anything, the games are fun to play.
Even though the DGT PI/SMART BOARD rig has more customization, the Centaur is a great option for on the go play. People have criticized the DGT Centaur for not having an option to connect to a computer, or export games. Usually those who don’t own the unit, have complained about this. I don’t find this a drawback nor miss it, for the following reasons:
1. It’s not designed to be that. It’s beauty is in it’s simplicity, and portability.
2. I have the DGT Smart Board for that, and the DGT PI saves games.
3. I know how to write my games down, as should any serious chess player should. If you can’t yet, there are phone applications that will help you record the game and email it to you. Blieb Chess Recorder is one.
4. You really are able to concentrate on your game without the technology getting in your way or distracting you.
Things that set this machine apart from other self contained, stand alone, chess computers:
1.Size. The board isn't too big/small, nor are the pieces too small.
2.When playing, even though the computer tells you what move it wants, it will still continue to play if you choose another move for it. Other computers, will give you and error and stop if you don’t execute the move it displays. This feature is great for setting up openings, or positions you want.
3.The color, and the lighting system.
The low profile, and sleek design will draw eyes to it.
5.Very intuitive menu, you really don’t need the manual to use it.
6. It has the strongest hardware under the hood, that I know of at 1GHz single-core CPU. 512MB
Things I'm getting used to:
1. Setting up a position from scratch. There is more menu stuff than the DGT PI/SMART BOARD rig requires.(Set pieces up on the board, and hit one button on DGT PI.) To Centaur's defense, the pieces aren't chipped, so you have to tell it where each piece you setup for your position. It's not hard just more menu button presses.
2.Analysis. I found it a little more tedious to do analysis on the Centaur than on the DGT PI/SMART BOARD rig, or Fritz/Chessbase software on the desktop computer. This comes as no surprise though.
While it does both tasks, it’s crown jewel is it’s adaptive play, and how easy it is to just turn it on and play, and get a good enjoyable game. Anytime. Anywhere.
I don’t regret the purchase of the DGT Centaur. I’ve enjoyed each game I’ve played on it.
I do believe, because of it’s self contained design, unique ‘human like’ play, and portability, it is worth the money spent. Like chess, it’s design is simple, however you’ll get hours and hours of awesome games and game play.
That's a great assessment. Thanks for sharing your experience
What if you were to change your pawn into a knight instead of a queen? Would the computer know?
@@baronyip3130 yes. it defaults to a queen, but you can under promote by selecting the piece you want from the pop-up on the display.
What a great review thank you very much for your insight. I have had mine now for a year too and really enjoying it
@@chessguy21Thank you I was looking for this answer
I now own a DGT Centaur and I played many games with it. Do not expect an easy opponent! Even playing against the "Friendly mode", games are quite tough and challenging. So if you are a total beginner or a weak unexperienced player, the Centaur will discourage you cause you have nearly no chance to win. In my opinion the style of play of the centaur is quite offensive if not agressive - it would be nice, if DGT publish a firmware update with an additional "easy level" which allows beginners to win too. But the Centaur is a usable machine - even though the built quality could really be higher and more worthy (everything feels very plastic, lightweight and a little bit measly), playing is fun cause making moves and playing feels very natural thanks to the led lights and the flawless recognition of the moves. Good thing is, that you dont have any cables, you can even use a compact powerbank to load the Centaur (no need for the power adapter). I hoping for a firmware update to export games in the PNG format. Furthermore I am looking for wooden chess pieces, cause the included plastic pieces are at best expedient.
This is a very good point. I was contacted by someone on a forum who wanted to know if the Centaur is right for him as he was a complete beginner. This was my answer:
You write that you are a absolute beginner. I interpret that as someone who just learnt the rules but is still developing his/her sight to see if a piece can be captured and doesn't know yet how to mate with K+Q vs K or K+R vs K. If that is the case you will lose against the Centaur your first games on the friendly setting. What happens is that Centaur will give you chances to make a comeback in the game but you will have to recognize the chances and if you have a winning position you will have to know how to mate your opponent. For example, you blunder a piece away Centaur on friendly will most of the time will blunder also. But if you don't see the blunder than you cannot punish Centaur.
So to be able to win sometimes on friendly you need the following skills:
You must be able to mate with the following material balances:
K+R+R vs K
K+Q vs K
K+R vs K
and if you know how to play K+p vs K and recognize which positions win and how and which positions draw that would be a huge improvement in playing strength.
Next to that you must develop your sight when pieces can be captured and when your own pieces are under attack. But that will come with time and playing a lot.
The good news is that the Centaur is an excellent tool to train yourself in the endgames I mentioned above and have fun. Instead of trying to win a full game in the beginning you start by setting up the easiest endgame K+R+R vs K and try to win against the Centaur on expert level. If you can't win, swap positions and see how the computer handles the position and try again or lookup a instructions on youtube. I'm absolutely sure you will succeed within a few attempts. And if you can win 100% of the time change to the next endgame.
Final words. The friendly setting is not a "I will always lose" setting. I'm an experienced club player 1800 rating and will lose 3 from 10 games on friendly.
Have fun!
This was one of the clearest , most comprehensive and professional reviews I've ever watched. Kudos to you , sir - i hope they paid you to make this , because you sold me on it
I've ordered several things from you folks and have never been disappointed. Keep up the good work! :)
You're great - William. Thanks for the nice comment!
It’s simple. Sharp. User friendly. I’d buy it.
yeah, i agree... we bought one and it's soooo easy to use :)
Yes, I miss the Excalibur and Mephisto brand boards. There were so many cool ones back in 2008. But I'm glad company still makes nice standalone and self contained electric board with computer. They are very fun and good for training and chess obsession.
All in all, I like it; as a standalone machine. As said elsewhere here it's reminiscent of Excalibur Grandmaster. I love the idea of using e-paper screen, but wish it was about twice the size so you won't be squinting at the board on it for setting back up. The adaptive strength has got to be a winner!
By far the best review I've seen on UA-cam. Excellent job in explaining every nuance of the hardware and software. I've just ordered one and am anxious to receive it as I need a "chess partner"! Thanks so much!
I love the design of the board. Like the light rings showing the moves!
It’s super unique and natural feeling.
The moving convenience of the Novag Citrine with the real chessboard like feel of the Excalibur Grandmaster. Love it.
What I notice is that from a certain playing strength onward (my guess is 1600+) friendly mode is not really a viable option for a serious game. I'm an 1800 rated player (1900 USCF I guess) and I notice huge swings in playing strength during the games in friendly. It gives me illogical free tempo's , sometimes it doesn't recapture but then suddenly plays very strong to come back in the game. My biggest annoyance, endgames are often atrocious in friendly. If you're an experienced player you will definitely see the huge swings in strength during the game and that takes away from the enjoyment. Friendly is very suitable for beginning and developing players tho, and I do like it's not a "you will always win" level. But when you're getting above a certain playing strength you will recognize some very bad moves and then it's time to go to challenging mode.
Challenging mode is a completely different animal and much more subtle, I really enjoy playing against the Centaur in Challenging mode. It does make mistakes but not so obvious, I have to profit from positional mistakes and sometimes tactical combinations a few moves deep. It definitely punishes my mistakes but sometimes gives me more subtle chances to come back in the game It really feels like playing against someone a little above my strength but I do have chances.
What I really like is the game oriented design of the Centaur. It is made to play against and have fun doing it. Although I would have liked a bit more options to adjust playing strength the fact you can't also gives a strange sense of freedom. I do miss the option to play with time increment. You play, against someone around your own level or a fraction lower (friendly) or you play against someone a bit better (challenging) or if you like to be humiliated,... well that is covered too :) You don't have to worry about what level to set for an honest game, you start and it goes, I really like that. You want to take back a move, just take it back. You want to play a certain opening? Just ignore the computer moves and play some other moves until you reach the position you aim for and keep playing. The Centaur accepts the alternative moves. You don't have to use the menu or interface at all during the game, it's great. It is clearly meant for chess players not for chess computer nerds that like to tweak and experiment with all kinds of settings. It's also very useful for training certain positions. Just put it on the board and see if you can win that endgame vs the expert setting or can you hold that rook endgame with a pawn down. Great training.
What I don't like are the pieces. I think there is not enough contrast between the white pieces and the white squares. For that reason I made my own wooden set with some self adhesive aluminium radiator tape. Here's how: www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-equipment/dgt-centaur-wooden-pieces#comment-46464174 Maybe Chess House can bring a more professional solution on the market, I know there is a market for it. It looks much better and plays much more comfortable.
Al in all the DGT Centaur is a great chess-computer geared toward just playing. Friendly is a great mode for beginning and developing players. Challenging more suited for experienced club and tournament players. It is a little oversimplified and if you want to tweak settings and play against other computers or want a connection to your PC, this one is not for you.
What an insightful reply. Thanks for the suggestion. The idea for alternative pieces is being passed along.
@@ChessHouse 👍👍👍🙏💪
I only wish you could choose the system play strength in a more „constant“ way, eg by using an elo parameter.
Aside from that, it looks really cool.
That would be helpful indeed.
It's an absolutely gorgeous chess computer, my only gripe is the absence of dual numbers and letters along all 4 sides of the board. I guess you can place it on some butchers paper and write them around the board yourself but most of the pro boards I've seen include them including DGT boards so it's a bit of a head scratcher that perhaps a rubber case around the edge wasn't included to both protect the edges of the board and to put the numbers and letters.
I just got one this week, and I really enjoy the simplicity of the board. Just set up and go. $400.00 is a lot of money, but this is worth it imo.
Tablets and PCs are very convenient and all, but there's something about the tactile feel of a real board and pieces. This unit looks very nice.
I agree.
Well, I made the purchase and I am extremely pleased with this entire system! I have no regrets and can't stop playing this game. Also, the foil on the bottom of regular pieces seems to work just fine. And absolutely NO scratches on the board, was perfect!
Thanks Chess House for the excellent review and tips! Great job!
I own this machine and I defeated it's expert level yesterday without any aid or takebacks. It captured extra material on my queenside but completely missed out a mating attack in it's castled position due to which it had to surrender its queen. Also when I put it on analysis mode and replayed the game, it was still missing my winning moves and was showing the assessment in it's favour (-5.sth) and when I played those winning moves the assessment suddenly changed in my favour to +7. In the game when it was capturing extra material on the queenside, even I thought that I was losing until I actually started to win. The game was a complete gamble but it proved that the machine is beatable even at it's highest level. Also one thing I noticed is that the computer hurries with it's moves/ hints and it sometimes misses strongest moves and if you make a stronger move than those specified in hints it learns and puts that move first in the list of hints after a few secs when you again press the hint button. For those who don't know how to analyse the game from black side, start a game playing as black, make the first move of white and change the game mode to ' Analyses'. This is necessary because if you simply start a game with 'Analyses' mode you will always have to sit with White's pieces on your side.
What is your highest rating in tournaments or online games ?
@@santanuborah My FIDE rating is 1314.I have just started playing rating tournaments.My lichess rapid rating is around 2141.
I would like to see that game.
@@Carrinthe send me your email address.
As always a great video from Raphael and the Chess House. All in all, a nice little machine for that price point but dont expect too much.
I do own this machine (ordered it directly from DGT to get it at release date) and this is definitively plastics. Feels ok but not that sturdy. The back of the machine is quite strange actually. The e-Ink display is nice but you have to cope with its dimensions (a tad too small for a good reading even with the largest font) and its special refresh which is the way e-Ink displays work. The point of not having a power cord is actually AWESOME !
The board size is also very good but you will have to cope with the light circles (I do prefer simple 1 or 4 LED per squares). The combination of the board+chessmen makes the pieces moving / slidding too much on the board for my own taste as there is no felt on the bottom of the pieces and the board has no grip. I can smell that blitz games would be quite painful to do.
The strenght of this machine is very very good and is stronger than the Millenium Exclusive King / Lasker for sure (I have played the two machines against each others). The options for the Chess engine are very limited. You don't even have the standard cadences.
If you want something with more options, do pass your way as Raphael said, and get that Millenium Genius Exclusive, King or Lasker. It is double the price but worth it.
Ah, also forgot to say that Millenium will release in Fall 2019 a new machine called the King Performance with a similar price point. This new machine made of wood and plastic will have a strenght similar to the Millenium King (so weaker than the Centaur) but still plenty enought for most of us (the King is at around 2600 Elo). See it there: computerchess.com/en/the-king-performance-2/
Decisions, decisions ...
Well said Fabrice. I enjoy reading your balanced comments here as well as on Hiarcs.net forum. You have significant experience with chess computers and I appreciate what you shared here.
The Centaur appears to be for those who would otherwise get overwhelmed with too many features. Up to this point DGT boards have required some technical savviness, or at the least some patience when first learning how they work. The Centaur breaks from that usual complexity and will be more enjoyed by those new to chess computers. Although, it may be at the expense of some features we would love to have seen.
The internal power and length of charge are great. It would be interesting to see if added felts would deal with the uber-slick piece movements for those who want a little more finesse.
It's ok, but I wouldn't pay the 400 USD it is going for. There needs to be more options, like importing .pgn files (USB or through wifi). I saw no mention of the engine being used. I would like to install an engine like Stockfish and set it to more than just 3 different "vague" levels. It would be better to get a regular wooden set ($100 price range) and then simply make moves with a computer or phone app. However, this is a nice start to something bigger down the road. I hope they improve upon it and offer different colors instead of the black and gray look.
This computer is built on Stockfish engine. What you're looking for is available in other chess computers that have extensive features with a lot of control. We thought there would be a least a few returns by now but the people who want this machine know exactly why they are getting it - simplicity. And they are keeping it and loving it. Is it perfect? no. Could it be better? yes. But it delivers a limited feature set with an ease of use that makes it enjoyable for many people.
Just got mine, and I love it! This was my first purchase from you guys, and the service was excellent. The first unit arrived damanged from shipping, but you guys sent me a replacement quickly. I'll definitely be sending you more business. I really like the set. I like how they keep the focus on the board and not on the display. I plan on using it for sparring games and endgame practice.
You sold me on it. Just purchased one, I think it's perfect for my level of play.
Hope you get lots of enjoyment from it. My kids sure enjoy it as much as I do.
Comparison between the apdaptive levels on the king competition and the dgt centaur: which chesscomputer plays more humanlike? Does the king competition also does it's job at getting authentic, enjoyable games as good as the dgt Centaur?
I love it and I can live without automatic piece movement but for the $450 price range it's going to have to Bluetooth to my phone and interface with any engine or mainstream site. I have to say for the same relative price I'd want to buy the SquareOff Grand. DGT is just too pricey for what you get. Where is Fidelity when you need them?
This is sub $400 price from what I've seen. If you want connectivity, you're right, go with a different model. For sheer chess play with no complexity, this is a great option.
Mine is a great practice partner in friendly mode. Glad I bought it!
Glad you like it!
I got my dad the Square Off Grand Kingdom set and I got the centaur to learn chess on. Raphael in my eyes the centaur is one of the best boards to get in 2020. It’s simple to use and gives you a good challenge 🙂.
Great choices for you both! =)
@@ChessHouse Definitely and with The Queens Gambit being such a huge hit I believe the Centaur is going to be one of the hottest selling items this holiday season 🙂.
This chess computer looks interesting. I prefer everything enclosed in a nice shell so not sure how I feel about the exposed back. The last chess computer I bought was the Square Off Grand Kingdom Set, but I got one of the newer models made in December 2018, without the grinding issues, pieces falling over, and a proper Staunton set with no coloured tips on the pieces. This set reminds me of the Grand Kingdom in some ways, but without the moving pieces of course, and also, the Grand Kingdom is HUGE compared to this. DGT have always been overly priced however, so not sure if I'm going to pick this up just yet. Although having said that, I'm a sucker for actual physical chess computers anyway so what am I saying! :)
Thank you Rafael and Chess House for shipping my order this past week.
You're welcome Josh! Really appreciate your choosing to shop with Chess House =)
Chess House Absolutely I got my dad the Square Off Grand Kingdom board so I decided to get the Centaur which looks beautiful too in its own right 🙂.
Decided to order metal chess pieces to use with this set Rafael super excited to get the Centaur tomorrow 🙂.
I just ordered one for my partner, she’s just learning to play & i’m too good for her so this is perfect.
EXCELLENT overview!! I'm going to look at DGT boards and decide which one I want. Thank you!
The main reason I would want this is to set up endgame positions quickly to practice. I notice the makers of chess computers NEVER mention this as a feature. I think you can from what I have seen on this but don't know how long it thinks to make a move in that case.
Setting up positions is quite easily done and it will play quickly from there.
@@ChessHouse Thank you for your quick response!
Amazing machine, but it deserves better software options and more quickly settings.
I really like all of your videos. Interesting, friendly, well explained. Great job. Thank you.
Thank you very much!
Love it.
Is there any way to make computer playing with less time... eg: Me playing with 60 minutes and computer with 10 minutes?
I'ts horrible to play against a computer waiting so long for moves
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Uh no, =) It's not that smart. Do you realize how excruciating it was for DGT to subtract features from a machine? They of all electronics companies are not for world class level chess products. To limit the feature set was quite a feat.
If you play without time setting the Centaur plays within 10 seconds every time in both Friendly and Challenging mode. And it will play strong enough in challenging unless you're 2300+.
Best chess computer I’ve seen for a very very long time. Pieces compatible with other DGT pieces which makes this a winning deal for me. The square off chess computer with moving pieces looks futuristic but currently faulty.
Actually, the pieces are not compatible with other DGT pieces. We thought they were at first. They are not interchangeable with other DGT products.
Thank you.
Thinking of getting one
( Do you remember the retro ones ? I've a Novag Constellation Expert ).
Sorry, one more question. I have seen some UA-cam videos that show people putting aluminum foil on the bottom of regular chess pieces and using them on this board. Is that truly possible? And, could it damage the board if so? Thanks.
We haven't tested that - but it wouldn't damage the board.
The hint feature seems like a great way to learn and improve your game.
What's the likelihood that "Chess House" criticise a product they sell?
Like the idea of playing on a board rather than a computer screen, but suspect that I'd also like to be able to connect to a computer & save games...more options for choosing the level would surely be good?
So don't think I'd choose this as my only chess computer.
Beautiful! Loved it! 💜💛
Though I got to say that it would be clearly smarter if the board could link with other devices... And then a simple app could do all the job! And, of course, this would allow users to use the board online.
I think that's what their DSG Pegasus board does (although I think I heard that the Pegasus needs the bluetooth or WIFI to play at all).
Very good comment and description. Thank you very much.
I heard it has stickers that you can put on the bottom of other pieces. Is this true, can I prep my heavier pieces for this board. Thank you for the video.
Great review and video. Cheers
Thanks for the kindness =)
No mention of the price?
Sergio Di Martino $399 arrived on june
I like it mostly, but the squares really need more contrast, the light and dark squares are white and light grey.
True - some like this look, but not everyone.
Can I play another human player in Analysis Mode and still use the hints and other features of the board such as move notation? Thanks!
Yes! You sure can. Player vs Player is super helpful
Has anyone posted a copy of the firmware image? With a pi zero w and Bluetooth this could be perfect.
philipcatalano1 If it's a standalone that'll not be an option, especially if the usb only connects to battery charging circuit.
If usb connects to the board, then there's a chance; assuming that DGT create firmware that'll allow it. I do think that they might not allow that by design, because it'll hit sales of their higher-spec boards.
Time will tell.
I believe recent iterations do not have the visual circles on the board when not lot. Not sure if the recent revision also features a closed back panel
This is the so called “black ring” version, meaning that you can see faint black rings on white squares!
So how does the computer know that you move a certain peice legally to a square. Does it sense the square or the piece? Sorry for the confusing stupid question
How does one select the strength in expert mode since it is no longer adaptive. Is it always maximum or depends on game time.
I bought this computer and lose almost all games in a friendly mode ... if you think that this mode means "I will always win", then this is a big mistake. I am a beginner chess player and still the friendly mode will not play with a rating of 1000, he plays about 1300
where are the positions? i mean the a,b,c and the 1,2,3 on the board...
How is this device updated?
It's not. There is no connection other than for the poweradapter.
Since DGT CENTAUR board is vary whitish, white pieces shuld be yellow.
I agree completly, that why I made my own wooden pieces. www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-equipment/dgt-centaur-wooden-pieces#comment-46464174
Thank you for the video! Do you know what elo or playing strength the computer plays at full strength? I see you mentioned it is based on Stockfish but someone else mentioned the strength is around d 1900; which of course does not correlate with the Stockfish engine
The comment of 1900 is incorrect. Stockfish plays at over 2900 level, very strong. You can see computer ratings here www.computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404/
I bought a newer version, I am having trouble linking it to chess.com so I can play people in live games. Anyone have a solution to this?
the Centaur isn't advertised to connect with chess.com. The DGT Smartboard can though.
It would be nice if it was a little bit bigger. A king size of 3.75 inches with 2 inch squares on the board would be perfect.
Superb and very balanced review!
@Chess House Thanks for you video! Could you - and other owners - tell me more about the built quality? How is the visual appearance, does it look and feel like a high-quality product? Or does it look cheap and plastic like? What about the chess pieces? How do the chess pieces feel? Do they appear fine, soild and good weighted? I'd be very happy to get an answer. Many thanks and best greetings from Germany.
@Christian Herings, I can tell you my impression of the build quality. To someone who knows how nicely weighted pieces feel, even plastic pieces, this one is going to feel inferior. It does have a lightweight feel. I think that what doesn't help at all with that feeling is the lack of felt on the pieces. This means the pieces slide - almost TOO well. It's very slippery and in fact just moving the chess set to another room will be challenging to keep the pieces in their place. So as a critic myself, I think it's cheaper feeling than it could have been. Visually, the board design does not look cheap. It is fairly lightweight however, and the "open" back showing the lights is unique, but may not have been the best choice. Still for less intense critics of chess computers, I think they will really like the friendly design and features. The pieces have some weight to them, but I think the play experience is just something to get used to without felt. I think of the Excalibur Grandmaster. It's a little smaller but in some ways reminds me of that retired computer - in grayscale color.
@@ChessHouse Thank you very much for this quick and detailed response. I am really not sure if I am willing to buy this product, cause of the build quality. Difficult. An option could be to buy better (wooden) chess pieces and attach a metal film to their bottom so the centaur can recognize the foreign pieces. On another website somebody wrote that you can play with cent coins because they are metal.
@@christianherings5743 There are many preorders by people eagerly awaiting its arrival. If you're not sure, you can wait a few weeks following deliveries and there will be plenty of reviews showing up to then help your decision.
If this came out in 94 I would of thought I slipped into the future. I just don't know now though. In saying that, this is the only thing like it out there. Keeps it on the board and pieces.
Great review.
Thanks Brian
hello i bought this chess just because on the chess side of muba chess where i bought it it says that it has the power of elo 2900 as a very powerful grandmaster but when i tested it at expert level i found that it even beat programs with free chess on smartphones let s say li chess ordeep chess- free chess as i mentioned for the price 350 euros plays also at the expert level badly i think there is an elo max.1900 by no means 2900 otherwise i am very pleased with the chess very quickly responds in short i have no comments just s pity because not realy much stronger at expert levelwithoutresentment
In some cases it doesn't play at the highest level because it is designed to be adaptible.
Picked up a used one for around $200.00. Was wondering if it has a opening book built into it, and if so, how large in half moves?
So I can't play my friends with this, with the computer keeping track of the moves and saving the games as pgn?
No the computer will not save games. For that you could use the king performance. Or the exclusive.
@@ChessHouse: Thank you. I will check them out
If you set up a Fischer 960 position will the Centaur play well from there or does it need a traditional setup?
You can setup any position on the Centaur that's legal. In this case, yes, you could do that.
I suppose castling may be a problem as the squares are not the normal starting squares for king and rook.@@ChessHouse
@@crossnote3590 true. however you can pause the game, setup the 'castled position' then continue from there.
Thank you very much for this great Video. I think its a super good Computer but i prefer a Wood Optik.
Completely understand. This one is very black and white. Millennium Exclusive or their model coming in late 2019 are good alternatives. The Centaur's visual is certainly innovative. I do like it.
@@ChessHouse thank you very much for the answer
Hi. Thanks for this good presentation. Is it possible to replace these pieces by other DGT pieces, for example DGT wood pieces?
For the Centaur it only works with these pieces.
You can manufacture your own wooden pieces. www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-equipment/dgt-centaur-wooden-pieces#comment-46464174
Having bought one I can say the loudness of the button click's when you set up a game is kind of annoying...who designed that!?
If im a novice, is there a way to set up this board when I move a piece to tell me the possibilites where I can move the piece?
Yes, you can see move suggestions as Hints.
@@ChessHouse Takey my money then
Good day! Could you please recommend "starter kit". We need smart board to translate moves through projector (to show and teach children) Thank you!
I swear the god if those chess moved by itself i will run
m.ua-cam.com/video/vMPyJGZ_Apc/v-deo.html
Here it is LOL
That's wizards chess
What is the chess computer’s style of play? Does it play at a more human-like level or more “computer-like” moves, particularly at the lowest and highest levels? Thank you.
@Chris DeMelo from my games so far, it's human like as claimed. I've seen machines that play very computerized odd, or repetitive moves. This one plays an interesting game on any level so far - from my point of view.
thanks a lot this a good review
I just bought the Centaur and I’m having an issue. I was in the middle of playing a game and when I tried to start a new game, the game board just flickered lights around the board for several minutes and did not recognize that I was trying to start a new game (which it should do when I return all the pieces to their starting positions). Is there a way to start a new game manually?
Flickering lights in a circular pattern is only a function of the board turning on the first time. Setting up the pieces won’t interrupt the startup sequence of lights.
Does it really only have 3 playing levels? Or are there some nuances to the 3 levels that somehow result in many more levels of difficulty?
I only can select 3 different ones
How can I connect my DGT Centaur to my Apple IPad?
There are 3 levels of difficulty but at the same time the computer learns and adapts as I understand. Can someone explain exactly how this works?
The adaptive mode has very short term memory (one game and not over multiple games). So it's very basic in terms of that functionality of adapting, but it does evaluate the play level of the person based on the quality of moves played each game - all within the context of the three different levels built in.
Can this be to broadcast like traditional DGT Chess boards? I mean 2human players and it can use live chess software to connect the moves to be recorded on computer?
No, it's completely independent unit with no interfacing possibilities.
@@ChessHouse Yeah I got that when you explained it further in your video. Good review by the way. I still like the alternative "connected" method playing against the computer using a DGT board and Fritz like interface announcing the moves.
Does it connect to a Mac or only Windows?
Where can I buy it. And tell me the price
Does it tell you if the game has ended with checkmate, draw etc?
Yes, the game result will be clear on the display!
liked the review just one question why so many contrasting reviews and comments for and against know its down to choose but i'm getting confused
We Chess people are some of the most highly opinionated bunch on the Internet. That's why =) If you're looking for a simple way to play chess with a computer without the extra frills and settings. This is it. If you want endless customization, you will be frustrated.
amazing !!! , maybe one minus ... what if you play with black ? then you have to turn the board ... and the screen is on top left, upside down
no turn the board just black pieces to give on your side white on computer side without turn the board and normal play screen is always on your side right
@@bolojang3563 oh yes exactly ... good point !!! , omg I'm stupid lol
thanks for clearing that up
Imagine this with bluetooth so that you can play on websites and have your moves entered. That'd be great!
DGT sells boards like this, but you'll be shelling out quite a bit of $$$ for the one with bluetooth.
i would like to see the rating but is not available. usb present but for charging only. but again this machine has the ability to adapt to your skills level which is a big advantage. btw nice video thanks.
Thanks for your comment Joan. The rating is variable based on play. The machine is capable of playing near 3000 rating (world champion level). But yes, no rating display.
@@ChessHouse any idea what engine they use here? the only advantage with this machine has the ability to level your skills which is really nice. thanks
¿Se puede cambiar el color de las Casillas?
The e-paper display of my Centaur is not functioning. I tried to remove the e-paper reinstall it but the same problem. Is there a replacement part for the e-paper of DGT Centaur that can be bought online? Thanks.
Please reach out to the store where you bought it for warranty support. We've never seen this issue before but did just confirm with DGT Support that this can be resolved.
@@ChessHouseI tried to contact DGT support last year twice but got no support. The amazon seller where I bought the device advised to contact the manufacturer. I tried recently to contact DGT support and this time they replied but unfortunately they don't have the replacement part as per their latest email 18-Feb-2022. However support told me that the DGT Centaur warranty is two (2) years and with that my device is still within the warranty period from the date of purchase. I tried to contact the seller at amazon today and I'm waiting what will be his reply. I bought a millennium chess computer at chesshouse last time and the device is in good condition until now. Had I known chesshouse before I should have bought the DGT Centaur from your online store. I just hope I get a positive response from the amazon seller regarding my problem with the DGT Centaur that I bought with them.
Misleading video. You state that the pieces are, and I quote: "individually chipped" so that the computer can recognize and identify them. However, this board doesn't NOT differentiate between individual pieces. It can only detect if a piece is there or not. So, if for example you misplace a piece at the start of a game, like having the queen on the wrong colour square, the computer won't be able to detect the mistake.
Not a misleading video, he made a mistake. When he made the video, the board was very new.
You are correct. The pieces are NOT chipped. You do have to set the board up for the correct starting position. Just like a regular board. YOU have to make sure that the pieces are in the correct starting position. Chess 101. It's on page 5 of the manual. Same rules apply as when you start a game against a human, with the pieces in the wrong place. Simply correct the, position, or start over. You can manually tell the computer where the pieces are, and or go into setup pieces, and set them to the correct squares. The proceed with the game. Not a big deal.
can we chose what opening we want to play in this engine?
No, the basic functionality does not include that. The King Performance does though. ua-cam.com/video/W3b5v1hOW8I/v-deo.html
If you know the moves you want the computer to play, as in an opening sequence, just move the pieces to where you want them to go with each turn. Your piece placement will override the computer's suggested moves. This seems like a unique, understated function that will allow one to best remember opening sequences.
Does the board sync with dgt to pc and mac and connect to chess.com games? (like dgt smart board)
Also the chess pieces it comes with are they plastic ??? They appear to be plastic no one is stating the material ... will appreciate your reply. Thanks 🙏🏻
It does not have connections other than power. The pieces are plastic with no extra weight.
@@ChessHouse thanks for the follow through ♟🏆👌🏻🇺🇸
i used to have something like this in the 90's. a lot less advanced than this and you definitely couldn't hook it up to a computer like all of the DGT stuff. not that i had one anyway....my parent's weren't THAT rich. but it was branded by kasparov.
What is the difference between this chess and Millennium Chess Computer? Which is more powerfull? Thank you.
Which Millennium? Exclusive or Pro?
mine just came in but I cant get to the menu, press OK/Menu button but it is frozen on the LETS PLAY screen, any ideas?
"Let's Play" Screen means the unit is sleeping or off. It needs to be turned on. Make sure it is plugged in, just in case the battery is drained?
@@ChessHouse thanks for responding. I turn it on by pressing the play pause button. The board Cycles through and I can play a game but the screen never lets me get past the LETS PLAY. the mini board never appears even as I play through a game. When I hold the power on off to turn off the right the board the right corner square shows a circle of light. Any ideas
Hi, Can someone compare this product with the CHESS UP Board please! 😊
The plastic feel kills it
How much?
What's to stop you using the hint when playing online against real opponents?
Honor
I think this is a buy
Can anyone describe how the challenging level works? Will it make a stronger move if you make a good one , or will it increase its playing strength in the next game if it loses a game?
My understanding is that it will increase the playing strength after each game. Reading from people's experience so far though it's more challenging then expected.
@@ChessHouse Thanks for the reply.
how to order that one...
Does this store games for later replay and analysis?
No, it does not store games.
How do you turn the damm thing off!!
ive read every comment and i'm amazed nobody has mentioned the fact that the centaur has problems during play it will start flashing the circle lights HERE WE GO AGAIN it either wants to take one of its own pieces or refuses to take an opposing piece the game has to stop everthings gone wonky i have bought one myself returned it and got a replacment but alas the problem pops up again quite a lot its very annoying i've tried it in all three modes very same reaction maybe somebody has some suggestion as it has some nice features and could be a good learning product i'm looking forward to some replies including chess house
Please explain more clearly the problem you're having.