Backbench Tory MP says both candidates are rubbish. What next for the Conservatives? | LBC
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
- James O'Brien explains why to choose between Kemi Badenoch and Robert Jenrick would be like 'the choice between a rock and a hard place.'
It comes as Mr Cleverly received the fewest votes in Wednesday's contest in the Tory leadership race, despite storming into the lead on Tuesday.
Now, the party's members will now choose between Badenoch and Jenrick to decide the leader of the opposition.
These results will undoubtedly come as a shock after James Cleverly shot into the lead in Tuesday's vote.
Conservative Party members now have a few weeks to decide on their preferred candidate, with the leadership results to be announced on November 2.
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They just gonna keep the seat warm until farage arrives, what a joke of a party
Yeah, & liebour are a really bad joke, much worse than the last lot...
@@joescott54you're funny
@@joescott54they havent lied about anything
@@supremeworld87 is your straitjacket nearly ready 🤔...
@@joescott54 it's true though as you well know which is why you haven't evidenced your baseless claim with a single example of a lie they told
I was a "latent" conservative until the Brexit campaign, after which I spent a long time deconstructing all the trickle-down and meritocracy BS I'd taken for granted
The Daily Mail supported Oswald Mosley and his Black shirts.
they still do
The problem is, James, when you hold up the mirror they don't hate what they see in it.
That's because the mirror shows them what is behind them, not how they appear to others. Break out your garlic ...
🏴🤤🏴🤤
Its a sad reflection of society that either of them has got this far. Neither have any moral integrity.
It's more the mediocrity produced by the privileged schools.
Vote reform
Neither has any ability.
@@PLl-jr8xiThat will be worse,far worse
@@PLl-jr8xiStay with Starmer
Honest Bob vs. Kemi Bad Enoch. What a choice.
She won't give up
So go on sicko
Justified that
Based on current numbers, the Tories have essentially decided they don't want to govern until 2034 at the earliest.
Choice between cholera and the plague
One trick ponies James you are far to kind
The thumbnail should really read "The choice between a pr*ck and a head case".
Difficult to comprehend, but six million odd still voted for them in July, many, in seats they had no prospect of winning.
Vote reform ..
@@PLl-jr8xi NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't vote for them in July, but I signed up as a member after the election. I was hopeful the loss would humble them and allow us to steer back towards being a serious party. Alas now we have to choose between two absolute duds.
It’s sad to see a political party with 150 years of history unable to produce candidates suitable for the job.😢 Robert JENRICK is still under investigation for unlawful £one billion housing contract given to a friend. He had admitted that the contract was unlawful and was forced to come clean by admitting he has taken BROWN ENVELOPE. The investigation still going on. THE ROLE OF LAW, ACCOUNTABILITY, DEMOCRACY AND PROSPERITY GOES HAND IN HAND.
It's ALL gone down the tube. They are corrupt to the core. Wonder how many Tory mp's have shares in the water companies? together with HS2 . Im old enough to remember the M1 being built by a company called Marples Ridgeway- Marples was the transport minister at the time. Labour are no different. Tony Blair on a PM salary somehow amassed. £10 million in a property portfolio. As I said, they are all corrupt to the core. Westminster is a golden pie for mp's. None of them have any idea what it takes to live on £35000 let alone on £12750!
You should see how much he's made in donations.. He even got 3 grand for predrinks at a party!
A choice between Dumb and Dumber. The hard part is deciding which is which.
Like choosing between syphilis and gonorrhea...
The dilemma for lardy boris victims.
This is the best comment yet 😂😂
As Nicola Sturgeon replied when asked who she'd prefer Johnson or Hunt in the Tory leadership election: "You may as well ask if I'd rather be run over by a lorry or a bus."
I thought that was the choice between Tories and Labour
😂😂😂😂😂 genius 😂😂
lead the Conservative Party! sure why not. But the UK! Truthful, I wouldn't trust either of them take my dog walk.
They'd get their mate to do it and charge you £1000, while the dog either disappeared into the woods, or, of course them swearing blind, that the dog had been walked when you could clearly evidence that the dog had neither left it's basket, nor the lead taken off it's hook.
Robert Jenrick is David Cameron pretending to be Nigel Farage.
and somehow worse than both of them
David Cameron DID pretend to be Nigel Farage in 2015, he said if he had a majority he'd run a referendum on leaving the EU, directly pandering to Ukip to get into power...
Vote reform
They can always have another leadership contest 😂😂😂
If they put forward a commitment to withdraw from the ECHR they will not get my vote. Withdrawing creates more problems than it solves, to the point they would need to replace it with a UKCHR, which will reflect the ECHR to the point it was not worth withdrawing from it. Just wasting time when there are more important problems to solve.
That's what they want. They want to pull out of the ECHR and replace it with a UKCHR which as far as I can tell is exactly the same but it doesnt apply to brown people
And replace ECHR with Brexit, and the same holds true. Unless the lot of them.
@@FredTheLard If you ask any of them they want to replace the ECHR with a UK bill of rights.
Which as far as I can tell will be identical except it doesn't apply to brown people
Some still believe the grass is always greener on the other side.
Both are toxic.
Kimi brought her hate for certain Nigerians to the UK and made it her politics tout court.
Couldn't agree more - I voted tory all my life. When I couldn't support them, I just didn't vote at all. But this year, for the first time, I enthusiastically voted Labour - and I am delighted with my choice. Despite the malicious media trying to do an assination job on this new government - what a surprise! - I think they are doing a great job. As you say, at this time the tory party has become repulsive.
Borris Johnson has done to the Conservatives what Trump has done to the Republicans in America
And yet Solihull voted them back in 3 months ago. It beggars belief!!!!!!!
BUT he could win . .somehow 😱
@@terryloftus8626He will win
Kemi must be frightening the public school types, as they go on and on about her. Wonder why?
It's like having a choice between burning or freezing
I remember not long ago Sangita masks was out performing James. Is that why she isn't on LBC anymore?
Gift for Labour. Boris will just wait.
What concerns me most about this election is that the choice is now down to these two horrors, appropriate in the run-up to Halowe'en. The next thing is the launch of a bring back johnson campaign
Tories don't die, they are kept alive by BIG MONEY
Big money destroyed the nation state democracy decades ago. Liberal Democracy is just rule by the Merchant class.
Libera l Democrac y is just rule by internationa l financ e and the Merchan t clas s
Is Family Fortunes still on
@@greamespens1460on Dave TV somewhere. Straight after bullseye
@@Gezzer21 didn't they bring back Bulls Eye? While in the subject Blankety Blank is the worst game show ever
I love this chapter for the Tories. Delish.
This schadenfreude is killing me. 😂
Genuine Conservatives, voters and supporters don't listen to O Brien or LBC, so pointless conversation
They listen to GB News,and Talk Talk and wonder why their unelectable.
I've voted tories in the past , now I vote reform. I thought I'd listen to this guy . A few partial truths in there . I think the tories have gone missing as an opposition at the moment. They do have time to get back on track, but the clock is ticking and 5 years will soon come round. They seem to be going the wrong way at the moment.
@@Ricky-qn3ol Reform are just undiluted Tory loons. Anyways, I'm sure Starmer loses sleep at night because they have 3 mps 😂 doubt they will have any impact since he's a diet Tory himself.
As a Corbyn supporter I didn’t feel politically homeless between 2016-19 I feel homeless now under a far right Labour Party under Kid Starver
But this is the problem with both the Torygraph and Daily hate Mail, they give more credence and no doubt money to opinion writers than actual journalists.
It seems to me the Tories are getting exactly what they deserve.
Both are inauthentic.
The day the conservatives ditched Boris that was the end. Kemi and Robert just haven't got the spark. Loosers, especially Badenoch.
It's akin to settling the precedency between a cockroach and a louse. As a former Conservative, I can scarcely contain my indifference.
A marrow with a Tory rossette. How about a lettuce?
James is a lonely voice of.honesty and truth in these times, where the truth is out of fashion, and journalistic integrity has been abandoned in most of our media. Thank you.
I couldn't agree more. Where I live I'm surrounded by utterly deluded right wing people who believe everything the read in the Mail as gospel and even think that Trump is better for the USA than Harris. Just listening to James is like a breath of fresh air. I'm so pleased that not everyone is brainwashed like most here in the Midlands!!
O'Brien would not recognise truth if he fell over it.
He is a voice of London centred Wokery
Many news channels and commentators are very excited about the last two candidates. It depends on the politics of the channel. Here, they are ridiculed.
Oh,what a headline.A tory backbencher doesn't like either candidate. Here's a thought, said backbenchers wanted miss tugenhat.😅
Two candidates that history will likely show in a few years time as having had little relevance in UK politics.
They are relevant to something else that made them candidates obviously.
9:00 Sangita got fired for less, eh @lbc
Should they both join Starmer as `no hopers?`
James is spot on with this one_ but I think the Tories want to out Farage Nigel. So who better than one of these clowns😂
I'm sure traditional 'one-nation' conservatives must realise that the Conservative Party have now become unelectable. The first question is: is that for a decade or forever? So the second question is whether the LibDems can step up to be a credible and powerful opposition and if so, can the LibDems effectively answer question 1?
The answer to your second question is no, not a chance. Ed Davey deliberately balked at the opportunity to replace the Tories as the official opposition with the frivolous campaign he ran this year. The Lib Dems have always been a wasted vote and they will prove that again in this parliament.
stop putting those muppets on us
😂😂😂This is the best they can do
Tory party finished
Badenoch would be quite funny as leader.
Funny for everyone except Conservatives no doubt 😆
Which one of these two would know if they were at a party without being told they were at a party? Just asking.
James O'Brien said previously that he did not care about the Conservative Party leadership contest! I knew he didn't mean it. 🙂
Cleverly's faceplant made it morbidly fascinating
He has to divert attention away from Kier and Labours abysmal start...
Hobson's Choice with those two but how bad is it when the most sane choice was Jim Dimly?
Of all 6 original contenders there wasn't one of them that could lead a one man band.
At this point I'm desperately looking for things to confirm my biased opinion that the Conservative Party has changed so much that they're not even fit to be a weak opposition party.
I voted LD tactically (and sadly unsuccessfully) in July and believe that party, under Action Man Ed of the Waterslide, is who should be the opposition for the foreseeable future.
If badenoch becomes leader can see Labour in power for a decade or more
The choice between ブス VS フツメン 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Indian PM, Lammy FM, ぶす for Tory leader, etc
And you know the reason why? 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Even if Cleverly had made it to the final you would still get either of these two horrors.
Don't get... It was the MPs who voted for them, right???
They want BoZo back again!
Will Sir have the bucket of cold sick or the hair sandwich?
aha, but the problem wasnt the Mini Budget itself, it was the markets reaction to it !!
Surely Not . 😂 😂 😂
James you can always put yourself forever to host the TV debate between the two of them. Well at least they know you'll be impartial 😊
No one in Labour was politically homeless during Corbyn's tenure. They were all welcome and in fully represented by the Liberal Democrats. They just didn't want to accept a party whose size properly represented the popularity of their views. Or they could found Change UK, if they so objected to working with other people.
Jenrick doesn’t have a very pleasant personality and led a lacklustre leadership bid yet he got through to the play off final. He must have some strong supporters to do this despite all his shortcomings so he’s the one to put your money on.
These are the same people who crowned Rishi, a total disaster, they should trust the party faithful to choose the leader instead of trying to be so manipulative….I voted for this lot and I no longer recognise my party.🤦♀️
Captain Blob and Major Mental…
No one is interested.
Not a serious country!
What happened in the tory process for James cleverly not only to lose a comfortable lead, but to lose out on 20 of Tom Tugenhats votes that should have gone to closest option cleverly, but disappeared?? Leaving the 2 weirdos who logically couldn't have attracted Tugenhats 20. What went on?
It's a choice between death and destruction or dihorrea and sickness either way is catastrophic
Or criticising Israel… 9:10
The Conservative problem is the same as the Labour one - they are confused about who their voters are. Traditionally the political parties were opposed on economic reasons, now it is more of a cultural split. Liberal Conservatives are probably more comfortable with Labour/Lib Dems and part of the working class are socially conservative and likely to fit better with a Conservative party. Both parties need to decide who they are looking to represent and build coherent policies for voters to pick between.
They are all playing the same game James and it's peoples lives they are playing with. Hope you and yours are well ❤😊
These pony's don't even have one trick.
Why was he anti Corbyn? Anyone understand how this monologue fits with being a Starmerite?
I had a glimpse of some hope for the future in the final run in to the last election, when it became abundantly clear that the Tory party had eaten itself and was just about to lose most of its seats. There was a whisper then of the Lib Dems becoming the official opposition to the Labour government. I didn't necessarily think it was plausible, but just for a moment I allowed myself the daydream. Perhaps one day...
14.04 perhaps a vote of no confidence in either of them would help as well as no confidence vote for Sir Starmer
Dutch are baffled
They read Boriss autobiography and can't beleive we elected such a silly man.
🏴 I am so YES
Corbyn should of accepted the result of the Referendum. He was anti EU all his political life just like his hero Tony Benn. He became leader suddenly flipped flopped and crashed in the Old Labour Leave seats.
Corby n shoul d of accepte d the resul t of the Referendu m
The dutch voted in Geert Wilders, I dont think they are in a position to judge.
And we got got beer starmer
I can't believe the Dutch elected a blonde even more right-wing than Johnson.
Bob the mural, or Kemi-iCal Spill. Just a stand in until they pay Nidge enough to become their glorious leader
Or Starmer who has to rely on charity to clothe himself and his wife.
In all honesty you all are that's why so few people actually vote
Some comments are hypocritical and ignorant. Labour politicians are cut from the same cloth. Truest statement made by O' Brien is that he has been radicalised to the extend he is unable to debate with anyone who doesn't believe in his extremism.
Had I been aware of the 40/1 odds against the elimination of the Clever one (thought he was, but wasn't), then I might well have broken my life-long pledge of gambling-avoidance. Given that the compost bin of left-overs (in food terms only) of the Tory Party probably represent the most privileged affluent constituencies, I would have thought it fairly obvious that those MP's would be rampant right-wingers/nutters and therefore odds-on to junk poor old James (henceforth known in this household as "Jim Jettison"). If folks thought the Labour Party had lost its marbles choosing Jeremy Corbyn, they need to reflect on the many madness cycles the Tories have peddled since election in 2010. Still fawning over Thatcher's "achievements" as if the catalogue of disasters she wrote into our history books was some kind of elixir of guaranteed electoral success, there's little wonder this shower of odious dung-heaps find themselves wandering around in Dreamland. Over to the party faithful membership - they'll know what works.........break out the bone china tea cups & buns.
We need a hard conservative leader I’m pleased they lost as they will be back in power after Labour first 100 day madness lol
The shame lbc has become the labour broadcasting company you are so into starmer and biased towards anything he does no matter what it is, im ashamed of you
Why's Bad Enoch so quite?
Both will be exposed badly - especially during PMQ’s - and I dont see either leading them into the GE. Badenoch would probably be Starmers best bet, she is already woefully out of her depth, he’d make mincemeat out of her.
Starmer couldn't make mince meat out a burger. He's clueless. Too busy telling lies about his father, his uncle, his policies. He won't last to the GE.
Don't hide behind the microphone. I lip read.
i will ever not vote but if i do i will not switch sides i vote Labour.
Neither of these will unite the party I once voted for.
Starmers fanboy , try holding a mirror up to him.
This clown says " you are welcome to challenge that " however whenever people do he talks over them and they cant finish what there trying to say ! He calls the two conservative leader candidates weird but what on earth does that make him ? Horrible vile individual that disgusts decent normal peoole
LABOUR has another victory in 2029.
Maybe Reform will take it
Reform all the way
So, it’s either Pinky or Percy left over after the horse trading influenced by the Z’s. This party is now known as the silly party and will be out of power for a long while, which gives most of us relief. If either wins the Tory leadership, then Labour will have to declare it as a gift. Starmer probably can’t get over his luck, on how everything has been handed down as a gift.
Anything better than. Two Tier.
I don't think neither will be Conservative leader at the next General Election anyway.
Question: "Why I am not exited about the conservative leadership battle" I dont care what happens to the conservative Party other than they dissapear into into obscurity. I have voted conservative once in my lifetime Never again. Labour or the Lib Dems do not .give me any confidence. Neo-Liberalism is rife. The only solution is, as I see it is proportional representation. Maybe then we will have a government that represents the people rather than vested interests.
Government has not represented the people for hundreds of years...
Again O'Brien shows lack of class with vocabulary used.
And also total bias by failing to mention anything about the Labour leadership
Farage for prime minister 2029 !
Horrible vile individual that disgusts decent normal peoole.
They are both Brexiteers, so already low grade choices.
Jenrick voted for the UK to remain in the EU in 2016.
The vast majority of Labour MPs in the House of Commons voted to trigger Article 50 and leave the EU
James o Brian . What a muppet !!! Kier stormer is the most exciting prime minster ever …… Not . Can’t concentrate on your own muppets !!!