The END of Family Channels: 8 Passengers
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Let's talk about what happened to 8 Passengers and why Ruby and Kevin Franke have suddenly disappeared from their channel. Is the lack of content something we should be happy about or is the alternative MUCH more scary...
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“We’re teaching our kids not to be dependent on others” she’s 6. She depends on you. For the bare minimum especially
especially ironic when THEY depend on exploiting their kids for income
If anything the parents depend on the kids
Exactly! She’s a stay at home mom but can’t bring her daughter a lunch to school?
I actually can't imagine someone letting their kid go hungry, I packed my own lunch my whole life but my mom would never punish me like that.
She was even younger when the video came out..
as a psychology student SLEEP IS SO IMPORTANT. any “mental health professional” that is saying taking away a bed is a good idea NEVER SEE THAT PERSON AGAIN.
As a psychiatric nurse practitioner grad student, I endorse this comment.
100%. I highly doubt they saw a mental health professional. They probably talked to a church official, or (and I really really hope not) follow advice from people like the Pearl's, authors of "How to Train Up a Child" or similar garbage. Weirdly they don't seem as extreme as the advice you'd read in that book, but it doesn't seem to be too far off.
As a 18 year old who has no knowledge about any of this I endorse this comment
As a night shift employee and college student i endorse this comment
Exactly. Psychology minor here, when Ruby said the wilderness camp was ran by psychologist and they approve of no beds; I knew immediately that wasn't true. Sleep is the most important thing our bodies need. Sleeping helps us refuel and reset; not being able to sleep comfortably (in a bed) can cause emotional and physical damage to our bodies.
"My kids don't get to eat sometimes, have no friends, or have beds, but that's life!" I really hope these poor kids can escape and get ACTUAL help
RIGHT? Like, those are your bare minimum requirements as a parent y'all, and you're proudly just depriving them of all of it.
I once knew a girl who literally wouldn’t send her children to public school and insisted on home schooling and wouldn’t let them interact other children their own age. They would say, “well they have their family that’s it” when they only saw their family on holidays. I’m not a mother, but I can’t help but feel that isolating your children like that will have long social damages and difficulty making friends.
I cannot help but feel these weird family channels are abusive families just concealing themselves by calling themselves "family channels" and broadcasting it... like that hiding among the public stuff
Yeah, that's life THEY make their kids live...
@@0h_hi_mark Yep, same here. I left home at age 16. Couldn't get out of there fast enough. But that led to me staying with an abusive older bf, just to avoid living at home. He pressured me into using drügs, gaining an addiction that I still struggle with today. Life was so unnecessarily rough bc my parents abandoned me. 🥺 Things finally worked out for me, have a loving husband & we have a child together. 🥰🙏🏻
When I first heard about what this fam does to their children, I legit cried! 😭 It's abuse in every sense of the word. Once the children are safe & away from their parents, I'm sure they'll spill all of what happened. Or they'll just want their privacy for the first time in their lives. 😔
My heart aches for those babies. I hope you're ok now, too! I can tell by your comment that you understand the struggle. 🥺 I sincerely hope life is ok for you now & I'm so sorry that your/our parents failed us. It's *not* our fault! Solidarity to you & sorry for the long comment lol. ✊😔❤
Ruby is a MONSTER. she is the typical “why don’t my kids visit me😫😫” kind of mom
yep she's lucky if she hears ANYTHING for her kids when they become adults.
every child deserves a parent but not every parent deserves a child.
1 year later + kids are safe and those ruby + jodi are arrested... ohh.... how right you were ^_^ ... too bad it took this long.
"I didn't bring her lunch and guess what? She NEVER forgot her lunch again."
That's because she got the message loud and clear: My mother is NOT someone I can depend on. If something or someone makes me uncomfortable, my mother will find some way to blame me, so best not tell her. Also, helping me is an inconvenience to HER.
sound like my mother. that is why I don't like talk to my mom, and eat with her in same table make my food tasteless
@@k.ainsword hope you reconcile and that your food gets tasteful again 🥰
Those poor babies at Xmas…. The magic being stolen is just so sad… it doesn’t have to cost money to give presents and magic….
@@Ijustdidthat no, some parents are meant to be left in the dust, especially the ones at hand
@@Ijustdidthat Tell me you didn’t read the room without telling me.
The 8 passenger kids are going to be writing a memoir like Jennette McCurdy
honestly
YUP
And I hope they do and I’ll read it just like Jeanette’s book
I said the same thing and it's gonna be way worse they will get Netflix deals telling their story and they will show clips. It's gonna be so crazy.. smh..
yup
I love how she’s crying about the principal introducing the kids to the “world”, but then does toxic things to her kids to “prepare them for the real world”.
Exactlyy. The hypocrisy. She uses every excuse to treat her kids like sh*t, but then turns around and acts like she's morally above everybody. Nah, these parents are exploitive and abusive
Literally the comments on some of their videos got turned off by UA-cam because child predators were commenting explicit sexual stuff
@@shewolfinubaka ew
The fact that the father said “if you’re triggered by that then you should probably look at yourself” YES bc my parents were also toxic and abusive and I have since cut off my mother out of my life & don’t plan so speak to her again. Don’t be surprised when your kids grow up & don’t need you anymore & don’t want you in their life 🤷🏻♀️ you did it to yourself sir.
The dad legit trying to gaslight us into thinking their shitty behavior is somehow commentary on other people and not a flaw in his "omnipotent" parenting 🤣
SIS SAME I’ve cut off my entire family except my brother, it’s so difficult but it’s so much easier to just be without them…
@Michelle Cline uh… not always. You’re forgetting triggers that are responses to trauma.
THIS! Yes IM sensitive to this because I was abused and neglected as a child.
@@Obsessive2345 same!! I only talk to my brother! My dad passed away in January & shit just went downhill from there. I moved halfway across the country to get away from it all. I’m sorry you’re going through it too ❤️🩹
I don’t think the mom realizes that chad is “okay with whatever” because she sent him away for 8 months and is terrified to disagree with his mom and dad or upset them
Weeks, but yes
every child deserves a parent, but not every parent deserves a child ☹️
I kind of hate that saying these days. Because it's like... feel good bs. It might just be my personal experience but nobody, who I know personally (I don't know you so I'm not saying you're like this) but they just say it to get like brownie points and then promptly forget about the problem that made them say it. I lost a small friend group because one of them seemed abusive toward their child, everyone said as much behind the person's back and kind of weakly nudged at it in their presence. Then one day she said to one of our mutual friends that she left her son, who was only 5, to forage for his own food for a weekend because he pissed her off and she needed a break. I can't confirm if that story was true because I heard it from a mutual who heard if from her and didn't hear it myself but that mutual gave a whole blurb about what she thought and capped it off with that statement. So I reported the mom and I guess something happened and the mom was complaining and I told her that she shouldn't be leaving her toddler basically defenseless. The friend who told me the story did not speak up and everyone criticized me for "trying to get her son taken away". I was never invited to hang out with them again but I would have passed if I was. Wow anyway that was a tangent that had nothing to do with you and was only triggered by your statement Sorry 😓
@@shantakidd6230 disagree. i've never heard this statement in other settings than when parents are abusive towards a child.
the statement holds super important meaning. it speaks about something that isn't talked enough about, and that is that the voices of kids matter.
So Ruby couldn't drive to the school to give her children FOOD but she could drive up there over music she doesn't like? I feel so sorry for the kids in that family. I'm a parent and it hurt my heart to hear how these children are treated.
Right?
This is like my mom🥺 it makes me so sad for these kiddos
Also... They give the kids lunch 2 hours before school is over? I don't know... It's been a while since I was in school, but I'm pretty sure we had lunch way earlier than that. 🤔 The math ain't mathing.
@@m00n.kitt3n.z00m you are correct ! We had two breaks at school one for 40 mins and one for 1.5 hours ( I think it’s roughly that) . Once my mum forgot to pack my lunch and she ran to the school to drop it off! We also had hot lunch day where I couldn’t eat anything available( I’m so allergic to things) and mum would always make me hot food and drop it off fresh so I was included 😩 . Ruby is just a hurt human who never healed and taking it out on their kids
@@m00n.kitt3n.z00m personally here in Puerto Rico we get lunch 2 hours before leaving. It's:
lunch 11:30-12:30
Class 12:30-1:20
Another Class 1:20-2:10
As a licensed psychologist I can guarantee NO TRUE PROFESSIONAL will ever recomend taking away a child's bed as punishment.
Sounds like LDS sanctioned ‘professionals.’
You’re the second specialist in this comment section to say this! Thank you for your input!!!
Hello I just hav some question since you’re a licensed psychologist: why do some moms go so far to discipline their child like taking away the bed, like it seems like a mixture of anger and a delusional perspective that treating someone like this is a good outcome
I mean I’m not a licensed psychologist and I figured as much… some parents honestly….
What about their bedroom door BC a few times it was "slammed" and after one time the wind helped to actually slam it, their parent took it off and hid it, no conversations, discussion ect with said child? (To make it all worse, it happened a few week after being raped and still in shock, so it seemed insanely bad to me.)
"Not having a bed isn't psychologically damaging" She says as she continues to sleep in a fucking bed, never willing to live the way she forces her son to live
Right? That's the grossest thing because clearly they think they are worthy of humanity than their own kids. Would they give up their beds? Would they give up everything???? When they say it's totally fine for their kids to suffer? Somehow I fucking doubt it. What sick, sick people.
horrid.
Ruby really joined a cult within a cult that’s wild. I am so sad for those kids.
the parents are idiots. i hope the kids break free one day.
Oh gosh it was way worse than we thought. They are on their way to being free from her now that she was arrested for CA.
Kevin joined the same cult, and was in this all years before they split - they both obeyd Jodis rules :/ and made new ones with her
i GASPED when I heard they sent their eldest son to a wilderness camp. I’m not American but I have heard of stories on tiktok from the survivors of those kind of camps and the horrible abuse the children there go through. I can’t believe those kinds of camps are legal, no child deserves to be abused like that
Lol take it from me, who was raised by a Ruby: Her oldest went to a school far away to get away from them, the son is mostl likely doing the same - so now Ruby is doubling down and getting stricter towards her younger children while they're still impressionable so they can be exactly who she wants. She's probably going to paint one of the oldest siblings out to be "the bad child" and turn the younger ones against them for not falling in line with her insanity.
Edit: Some of you don't know how to think outside of the box but I'm clearly talking from exp. It may not exactly align like that in this context, but regardless of what is canon and whats not, we all know Ruby WISHES she were farther away.
It's probably going to be Chad that she paints as the villain. It's sad and it just shows how dangerous having a parent like Ruby can be. I hope these children all find peace.
Shari actually had a scholarship to a college out of state/further away, but chose to stay in BYU, where her dad works.
Sheri goes to BYU, where Kevin teaches. It’s less than 30mins away from their house.
if she's at BYU then she's still under the thumb of not only her parents but also their church. BYU is a well known Mormon school. Also since her dad works there, she probably does get a discount on tuition and being an instate student would mean lower tuition as well.
@@lsun5322 okay?
The dad saying that them abusing they’re kids only seems bad to you because YOU probably got abused is ridiculous. I literally had the most perfect childhood, which is WHY I can see how bad their behavior is
Dude didn't even hesitate to say it. i had the worst childhood and i'm glad someone that had the opposite agrees they are sh*tty parents
Fr. I wouldn't say my childhood was perfect (I dealt with a lot of psychological abuse from various family members), but I would take my family over those two anyday. IMO, Kevin and Ruby might have come from similar (ish) upbringings and they don't see anything wrong, because it's been normalized to them. Thankfully, their kids seem to realize the issue and are getting as far away as possible.
COMMON SENSE tells us that it’s Bad Parenting🥴🥴🥴
Right. my parents would never 😂
Genuinely same.. I can still see child abuse here…
CPS failed these kids. Everyone around these kids are failing them. They’re terrible parents. She drove an hour to the school to cry about a song but not to feed her child. Ruby is a narcissist. Why would you try to ruin everything fun for your kids. Literally she stops them from doing anything they enjoy.
Cps 80% dumb 20% smart
Not to offend anyone who works for cps I'm just saying my harmless opinion thank you.
CPS fails most kids. They focus on the family unit and lot of kids end up back in the abusive situation again and again. 80% or so of kids come out injured or dead. It's honestly disgusting.
@@LAHDL are you sure it's not 100% dumb 0% smart? My dad's druggie nephew got his son taken cause he's a meth head. It's been 5 years and cps is still giving him chances to clean up. He's shown many times drugs are more important than his son. Two months into trying to get him back cps wanted another piss test he said "no I gave you enough piss tests" omg I wanted to rip him a new one but he'd also tell on me to my dad cause my dad was blind to the truth about him back then
CPS has failed everyone. they claim to always be a helping hand but they've faild me and my friends.
Totally missed that! How is it too inconvenient to drop off lunch but perfectly fine to go complain about a clean version of a song. Shows exactly where her priorities are and why the kids have no friends
The number of times me or my coworkers have forgotten our lunch because, well, we have human brains. But this child is supposed to never forget? 🤦♀️
I’m a teacher and if one of my kids was told to go hungry by their parent, I would A) feed them and B) report to CPS. That’s abusive. There are better consequences. You could bring a sandwich and apple. You could set up a payment for a lunch at school. You could say that you would help them pack their backpack for a few weeks while they learn to be responsible
I got my daughter to pack her own lunch when she was 8, I would be with her to help or prompt her with it, and if she refused to pack it, then the 'consequence' was that I would pack it for her so she may not have the exact things she wanted in it.
Her expectations and consequences are insane!! If I was a teacher then I would report them too!!
She did that on purpose, to enjoy her kid's suffering. It's not that she didn't realize what she could do.
Funny that she drove the whole 45 minutes to her kids' school to complain about a song but not to feed them
They are terrible parents.
then she exposed herself by vlogging both refusing to take her preschooler a lunch and driving to the school to complain about nothing because she's a complete smooth brain. clearly, her priority is control, not care. her kids are going to absolutely despise her when they grow up, and she'll die alone and hated, as she should.
As a person who grew up with strict, crazy parents like this. I can guarantee one of them if not all will go off the rails. This is what pushes your children to resent you.
Yeah… sometimes if its bad enough? The parents will go so far off the rails they’ll commit acts of violence
oh fr I knew a parent literally exactly like this and when my friend got kicked out she went fucking crazy I love her but it took 3 years for her to calm down and to live her life normally
" Be masters of yourselves, don't depend on others!" Say the adults making their fucking money of ruining their kids childhood and privacy to the world, yet screw the 6 year old who forgot to pack his lunch. Sounds legit.
They're also acting like their child isn't their responsibility, really puts the abuse into perspective...
The Christmas thing is really getting to me... They take away their gift and then call their own love a gift. Those poor children are going to start believing that the love of their parents can also be taken away easily. Parental love isn't a gift, it's a duty
Not to mention these kids are learning a very perverse version of love.
The fact that she’s hell bent on making sure they’re just hungry is mind blowing to me. You can’t think and concentrate on an empty stomach. If my daughter were to forget her lunch she at least has the option to get something from the cafeteria and I would never tell her that she HAS to neglect that and just be hungry. What a wacko.
I noticed in Ruby's debut video was the 'Karen haircut' and considering her attitude she basically kept it in spirit.
thought the same! 💀
I literally had the same thought 💀
Lmao, I literally laughed out loud when I saw the Karen cut
hahaha same!!!
i was thinking the same thing
As a teacher, I am so angry with family channels. They always humiliate their children for views and it could lead to school bullying in the future. There is a 50% chance their classmates will find their family channels and they will see their most embarrassing moments where it can possibly lead to bullying until they graduate high school. This is so sad and I can't stand it anymore.
Edit: thank you everyone for the likes! I really appreciate it!
Same here! The only way they "teach" their children is through trauma and neglect yet somehow have the audacity to give advice on parenting.
@@samfinnell6070 I mean there should always be consequences for their actions but those are not appropriate consequences. An appropriate one would be like losing technology for about 2-3 days or something.
Same here!!
I am also a teacher and I 100% agree
@@jedimasterspidermad5173 Agreed! Discipline isn't necessarily a bad thing nor is their abuse even "discipline" it's just being horrible!
„ask yourself: why am I upset about how they raise their kids?“ because we have empathy and to be treated like this as a kid is horrible.
i love that ruby punishes chad so much that he’s literally just like “yeah i’m horrible” to the camera cus he’s just done😭😭
i’m sorry “iTs a rEfLeCtIoN oN yOu” yeah, as a survivor of child abuse, i recognise it when i see it babe. horrible parenting and moral. i wish those parents the worst, and the kids (the victims) the best in life.
Exactly. And no, my experience being an abused child is not a reflection of ME. The fact that they said that, says it all.
Right? He tried to deflect responsibility completely. They chose to over-share their family's life and then can't accept criticism for their shitty authoritarian parenting.
His statement on that made me sick. Both of them are gross narcissists
A lot of people say that Asian moms are the most authoritarian when it comes to raising their children- and I can attest to this- but imagine being raised by Ruby and Kevin. 😭
_”Strict parents make sneaky kids.”_
This is a whole different level. I grew up in the church, and it was a stricter upbringing for sure, but this is a gross misrepresentation of family life in the church. A complete abuse and embarrassing use of power.
This feels a cult ngl
Same boat, but I reckon religious authoritarianism is a little more multiplicative. I've never been told that I was such a bad Asian I was going to hell.
@@fairlysleepy exactly what I was thinking. they use the same words over and over again and when their mind seems to go blank they use those words to refresh it.
@@honeybear5792 @Adi exactly what I was thinking!! She's giving off mad cult leader behavior and vibes
My mom listened to professionals when I was younger and it made our relationship worse. They told her to take my door, clothes and other weird things that made the whole situation worse. Just because “professionals” tell you to do it, think about it first
i’m ready for all family channels to go away. these parents leeching off their children when they (the kids) don’t want to be involved is extremely inappropriate. they don’t even realize the risks of showing their kids on the internet.
not to mention how the kids probably don't get a single cent and probably won't
@@Pamela-yx9os let’s hope some of these ppl put money aside for their kids education
it never will go away because people know being a youtuber makes so much money especially kids oriented content. in 10 years from now there are gonna be so many kids messed up bc of family channels, just like tv stars that got famous since they were a child 🙁
They don't even bother to even consider the risks as long as they can continue the cycle of abuse and exploitation
Also note that Chad isn't even sure if that is the exact reason he lost his bed. My father use to shut the power off in my room and I would no idea why and no clue for how long. I would just have to guess. Parents have to remember they are raising PEOPLE. Not children, people. Bad parenting does get erased once a person turns 18.
Also " the principle of truth" sounds just as creepy as "keep sweet".
i was just thinking that about “the principle of truth” sounding like “keep sweet”. makes me feel ill.
Their version of truth is delusional ramblings on Facebook like sis that's not how facts work but go off 🤣
That was the worst, not knowing what you did wrong! 😭 My parents took my door off it's hinges, among many, many other violating things.
So sorry you went through that. I'm personally always checking myself now bc I have a 1 year old, I don't ever want to be my mother. I always remind myself that my son is a separate person, if that makes sense lol. Narcissistic parents always consider you like you're just an extension of them, it's so fkn weird dude. *They* & *their* feelings are only ever considered or valid. They take away your sense of self, which has insane consequences. Still trying to undo all that was done to me by my parents.
All I know is that I will *never, ever* abandon my son, like my mother did to me. They at least taught us what *not* to do, ya know? 😐 I wish you healing!!! What happened to you was not right, necessary *or* justified. It's not your fault. Solidarity to you, Taylor! ✊😔❤
19:26 “the gift of truth” also sounds weird 😂😂 what a lovely Christmas present lmaoo
i’m really loving the more long form commentary style videos :)
Me too
YES!!
YES please keep this up im begging
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Let’s be honest the only reason he said “it’s fine” is because he wants the world to know how he’s treated, which is poorly he honestly is treated the worst out of everyone. I’m honestly surprised Ruby didn’t cut that part herself out still tho even tho Chad said not too, she has a habit of not caring what her kids say
"It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men."
It's interesting that Chad shows no remorse regarding cheating on tests and getting kicked out of school. How do they expect their kids to understand right from wrong if they don't show them? You can't just jump from action to punishment, you have to actually explain why their action was wrong!
He's sheltered from a lot and probably was angry for so long that he just gave up may not care now. Very sad advice they can reverse this crazy thelarents did and hope it isn't too late
@@ashlieghdeeble9112 I agree in the sense that it seems like he just gave up. I had super strict parents as well and eventually I learned nothing I did would live up to their expectations of me so I gave up and stopped caring. I’m getting a similar vibe from him tbh
It was him stuttering for a minute or more while trying to explain why he had his bed taken away… he legit didn’t know why
I'm a teacher and I have had parents like her and it's awful. She's just irrationally upset about something so miniscule.
Call CPS
Hell, I'm a paraprofessional and I get parents like this when it comes to my sped students. I work with 3rd graders and most of the time the students are more reasonable then their parents
I had parents like this, like I didn't get a birthday one year because I "misbehaved." It's cruel.
My mum cancelled my 7th birthday party after I’d already invited all my friends
@@conniearcher96 Literally what I had to do too. My gifts got sent back, my friends were told to not come by her, and I just had to sit in my room all day and stare at the wall.
Same here one time I took 20$ in change from my step mom and on my birthday my grandparents gave me 80$ and she took all of the money saying that it’s from what I stole. I was going on 11. I never really got any presents from my dad or his side of the family and it still upsets me to this day
I'm so sorry ❤️❤️ I hope you're flourishing now
If this is what they are sharing to the world, imagine what they aren’t sharing
I can’t even imagine how Chad felt when his parents sent him off. The abuse those kids endured. 😭💔 so glad the older ones moved out and got away from their parents.
"My kid won't forget their lunch anymore!" -- yeah, how about knowing your kid now knows what it's like not to be able to rely on their parent for basic essentials like EATING? Heartless. Absolutely heartless.
Reminder that this awful abusive behavior is what they're willing to show publicly, and things are always worse privately
Tea Spill is the only channel I like for gossip. Specially her comments, she says the good, the bad, what could be better comments about the videos or channel she is covering.
Plus she’s got a great voice for it!
@@ElizaSimmer yes! That too 👍🏼🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻
She’s so much better than Anna Oop
Tea spill > anna oop
@@lemonsoda3689 FR
She even had de oficial Karen haircut 💀
That part where she is like “I’m not here for my daughter’s comfort, I’m not here to make her comfortable.” What?!
As someone who is a psychology minor and who is also in therapy, a mental health specialist would NEVER advise a parent to take away their children's belongings because of behaviors. And if they are, then that isn't a mental health specialist. In what world is it right to take away your children's belongings because of behavioral issues? It would be understanding if it was for a SAFETY reason, but not because they're "acting" out.
True and I've only heard video games or phones but not once hae I heardbedroom doors, beds etc.
My questions as a mother is then, what do you do? You're not allowed to punish for bad behaviours? Because you're not allowed to hit, take stuff away or give time out. What do you do? It's a genuine question, since I see how many non parent have all kinds of opinoins on how to raise kids. (I'm not saying these are good parents, don't know them, have never heard of them before.)
@@mimijansen3262 Finding the cause of the behaviour & creating an open line of communication between you & your child is the most important step IMO. Personally, I'm not against punishments as a whole, but when you take a child's things away, it can create a sense of material insecurity. I think giving extra chores is a better punishment in the long term cos doing chores sucks, but it's not gonna make the kid feel isolated or trapped in the same way as fx. grounding them will.
They probably only listened to the ones that would tell them what they want. In other words, validate and justify their abuse and unfair lessons.
Not the good ones, but let’s not pretend there aren’t abusive people in the field.
I'm surprised that family channels are still a thing...
They shouldn't but people are dumb enough to give these family channels views.
Not for long
they are dying out their views and plumiting
@@missbieber1211 i hope so!
I sure hope they go away. It's so awful and unregulated. As a parent I have to explain how bad it is for the children and why they are not allowed to watch Ryan's world. Now that these kid channels are on Hulu it is so much harder to avoid
She talks about pop culture, and then tries to make her family go viral and become pop culture
One thing is sleeping on the floor bc you’re CAMPING another thing is being FORCED to sleep on the floor because your bed was REMOVED as a consequence.
Exactly! Beds aren’t a “privilege” they are a need
My parents raised me this same exact way. I would never do this type of parenting to my own kid. I was responsible for packing and remembering my lunch for school. If I forgot it I wouldn’t eat all day and I would get in trouble when I got home. I was only in like 2nd grade when this was happening. I feel like maybe by middle school this would be okay but no 6/7 year old is going to remember to pack and bring a lunch to school every single day.
I also wasn’t allowed to have a phone until I graduated. Nowadays teens rely on phones to have friendships and keep friends during the summer break and everything. It was super hard not being able to see my friends out of school then having to find new friends every new school year.
Some parenting is just too strict and once I graduated and went to college I sucked up as much freedom as I could.
I'm really sorry to hear that it must have been incredibly difficult, you def didn't deserve any of that
I totally agree with a kid that young needing help packing a lunch sometimes. I was a dumb 5 year old sometimes. We got tiny milk cartons at school with our lunch but I couldn’t finish mine one day. So I decided to put it in my lunch kit to save it for later at home. Needless to say, it spilled all over my backpack. Little kids have little brains and they can’t remember stuff like that all the time 😂
It's really sad to know that their children don't get the healthy emotional stimulation from their parents. Imagine feeling like ants under a microscope since birth, these people are SICK!
this aged well
Honestly the fact that it took this long for their channel to go under after all the shit theyve done is so disappointing they shouldve been gone years ago
I feel Turning 18 and going to college in that family must be paradise for the kids. They actually get to met new people and start their own life for once without their mother around them.
you actually read the future
Chad came back from that program completely different. He seemed totally broken. My heart breaks for these children.
that's so scary. I was SUCH a forgetful child, I forgot things all the time and had breakdowns about how bad my memory was. If I'd had a mother like that, I would have been beyond traumatized.
So, the cult they were born into wasn't culty enough for them, so they found a cultier cult to join and promote. Those poor kids.
My daughter is in first grade and 2.5 weeks into her school year and has lost three water bottles and a lunch box equaling close to $90 in value. I'm so sick to my stomach thinking of my child not having lunch. Ruby is a psycho narcissist.
Right?! She’s SIX!! not only did she refuse to bring food, she said she HOPES THAT NO ONE SHARES FOOD WITH HER. what on freaking earth. I am working to teach my kids to be responsible, but not via starvation tactics.
A child missing lunch which is one meal of the day is not going to die. Yes they will be hungry until their next meal but they will be ok. If a parent was working and couldn't leave their job I understand them not bringing their child food. But the fact that Ruby is a stay at home mom and has time too do that, and chose not too is concerning (especially if thishappens alot). Also in my opiniom a child who is in school should be taught how to pack their lunch and backpack but it is the parent's responsibility to check it to make sure that they have everything. Children can be independent little beings with proper oversight from their parent.
Perhaps Ruby was trying the methods of natural consequences.
@@EmmazingGal - No, they are not going to die. But first of all, she is 6 - WAY too early to have the sole responsibility of managing her own school lunch. Second, actively hoping the nobody shares their food with your child so they are starving as much as possible in order to learn the lesson as harshly as possible, is a straight up abusive mentality. No wonder she is giving the gift of “love” to this same daughter for Christmas, she is clearly withholding it the rest of the year.
@@jlgunn922 I agree it is awful for a parents to wish ill upon their child and allow that to happen
Why would you buy a $90 lunch box at all let alone for a kindergartner?
My mom did Anasazi when she was a teenager before the internet, before you could leave reviews. She almost died. My family is also Mormon, and they seem to think these camps are the answer to their children’s anger, outbursts, “drug” addictions, and so on. These camps cause major trauma and the parents will truly never know how deep it can go
Did anyone stop to think why is my child using drugs?, and why is my kid so angry?. Kids aren’t born with these feelings and behaviors. It’s cause and effect, so instead of doing some investigating and talking to your kids you send them to complete strangers, in the woods, and you pay for it. That’s great
My family are Mormons too. That’s why we haven’t spoken in 5 years. Those people are intolerant religious hypocrites. Disgusting people.
gosh i'm sorry she went through that. it is a horrible thing that things like that exist.
he lost his bedroom over a prank that literally hurt nobody? yeah so his brother cried; he'll be over it in 1 hour. that's what kids do. my brother did worse pranks on me as children and I would feel terrible if my parents punished him that severely.
When I was in 6th grade, Tipsy by J-Kwon was really popular. My teacher wanted to get all of us more excited to learn, so she paired us off in groups and told us to re-write a popular song and make it about a class subject. Our song went "Everybody class learnin' math now" - yeah, it was cringey but it was fun and got us more involved in the lessons. It was such a reach for to come to the conclusion with the song/ tik tok dance. It's a fun idea, let them be kids, but thats not what it's even about for these two. These parents come across as so controlling and exploitative
Something we can really take from this is how resilient Chad is, to go through all that and still be that happy and still himself is pretty cool
he is so strong, he is clearly the "rebellious" one who has his own personality and his parents dont like it. i hope he is able to get out of the family and cuts off any communication with his parents asap.
The way Ruby replies to people on the Facebook group, you need a translator to understand what the heck she’s talking about. Principle this, truth that, division…. Like what in sweet damn is she on???
She SPEAKS TRUTH TRUTH TRUTH... lol it's scary though and sounds how cults speak
@@ashlieghdeeble9112 she's a mormon so no surprise she sounds like she's in a cult
@@ashlieghdeeble9112 it is a cult
@@ashlieghdeeble9112 she makes truth sound complicated when it’s such a simple principle
@@change_my_mind9891 agreed it 100% is
This whole thing seems like a cult. Like the way Ruby switches up so quickly and does those things where the kids have to suffer for the consequences they do? Girl it is not parenting and your kids will leave you alone when they are older. Also I like the longer video essay style videos!! Really nice
I legit hope those parents never see any of their children again once they're old enough or CPS removes them.
Exactly and it makes me sick that they call themselves Christians while acting like this.
I mean they’re Mormon 💁🏾♀️
@@staceyshere thats not an excuse
@@sophia5601 you’re right. It’s an explanation.
I’m dealing with cps right now. I got emergency placement of an 11 year old. But for his privacy that’s all I’ll say. After a few months cps was going to send him back but I still had concerns. The house was infested with roaches and bedbugs he was sleeping on a cot in the living room next to the women who had custody. I had to provide clothes shoes everything. Cps didn’t give me shit for money clothes toys food nithing. The response I got was as long as there is a pillow and blanket on the floor it’s ok. I filed for custody and received temporary custody we will go back at the end of august for permanent custody. I thought they had to have a bedroom but they don’t. CRAZY
My Dad always drove my lunch into town when I forgot it. I feel so lucky reading all of these stories of childhood abuse. I just want to give you all hugs!❤️
My husband was sent to many "wilderness camps" he says the only thing the counselors are there for is make sure the kids don't die. And they're pretty bad at that too. Many of them are abusive and take pleasure in harassing, tormenting, and pushing kids/teens to their limits. One camp, I think one specific officer, forced them to exercise naked at 3AM, the people and those places are Sick.
Holy shit was that guy a pedophile
Thats horrible!! Im so sorry your husband had to go through that.
Ruby: "if you're living under MY house that I provided, you will do so under my rules."
Also Ruby: *exploits children on the internet to purchase said house*
I don't believe any of Kevin's words. They are so scary as parents.
The way the kids constantly defend their parents and keep insisting it’s there fault it’s just showing how control the parents really are, if you condition victims to be obedient and that they are constantly to blame then its your fault.
I really hope these children get helped. I feel so bad for her daughter that forgot lunch :,( I couldn’t imagine letting my own blood starve even if their school is 40 mins away.
Ruby got arrested for child abuse
The older children probably felt like SHIT when the younger kids didn’t get gifts… it was a punishment for all of the children and will be TRAMA
100%!!! The kids know the trauma each one of them are enduring.
Drives 45 minutes to cry to the principle but not to feed her 6 year old lunch she missed
Exactly
As a mental health professional I would like to say that 6 yeat Olds going hungry can affect learning, and brain development. Extreme punishment is real and can affect the child's future relationship and how they connect with others. I hope the kids are okay...
I was raised in a Mormon household and I am SO glad that my parents are nothing like them with how they raised me and my brother. Watching this I felt sick, I’m glad the oldest was able to move out and I hope that the rest of the kids as they grow up will have a little more control over their life ❤
I had the flu and pneumonia at the same time. I was absolutely miserable and I don’t even recall the first week of being sick. The last thing on my mom’s mind was recording me.
triggered?? i was abused by my stepdad for more than half of my childhood life and guess what was one of my punishments that didn’t involve anything physical? my bed and room getting taken away and only sleeping on a couch. you’re damn right im triggered that’s not a normal form of punishment suggested by any professionals
Wonder if he'll say the same thing to his children when they tell them how fucked up their lives are because of them
I get a serious ick when I look at Kevin. There’s a reason Ruby did a 180° when it comes to giving her kids freedom of choice about going to church. And the fact that she completely shut out her OWN FAMILY. It reeks of gaslighting, manipulating and religious trauma.
This whole family reeks of abuse.
I don't understand what their mom does all day if she can't be bothered to run her kids a lunch.
Right?? It’s awful
Honestly treating your kids like this leads to so many problems, (drug use, violent behavior, mental health issues, acting out sexually, and so much more) you can tell the kids are exhausted mentally. It’s really sad I can only imagine the behind the scenes. It seems so fake and rehearsed
The fact that she gave him the option to leave taking his bedroom away out of the video tells me she knows it's wrong. If "mental health professionals" are providing them with this sick advice, I'd seek new providers.
I feel so bad for Chad, it’s very evident how they are harsher on him than the other kids…
I believe it’s bc he has a huge personality, has a mind of his own, and ruby has little to no control over him. That’s probably why they sent him to the camp, to break him.
My dad was the same way. It was harder to break me, so he turned his attention on everything I did to break me and punish me (taking away my door, putting locks on the refrigerator) to dehumanize you.
@@zaylinstar8883 Yup I think this is it. She is a narcissist and hates that he isn't under her control.
Ruby crying over a song is actually really funny
IKR, like lady, chill.
funny how she drive 45 min for a song but not to feed her child
15:27 I babysat for a couple of years for the same seven year old girl. One thing that I did a lot and that my parents did too and helped me mature is to have small tasks to do alone. Packing and putting lunch in the backpack was one of them but as an adult I NEVER MADE HER GO TO SCHOOL without checking that the backpack was actually filled with the right books or that the lunch was packed correctly. A child must always be checked. I wonder, what did this woman do in the morning?
edit: sorry if there is any mistake but english is not my first language
Right! Bc they could pack their own lunch with nothing but Debbie cakes and candy! We don’t know what’s in the lunch is healthy or will give you enough energy unless we do check!
Exactly. I remember when I was little my mom would prepare my lunch the day before (make my sandwich and put my snacks in a group on the counter) and the next morning I would "pack my lunch" (put everything in my lunch bag). Before leaving to catch the bus my mom would always check my lunch bag (she tried to be discreet as to not discourage me from being independent, but I always saw her). I think the way my mom did things was a great way to foster independence and responsibility, but she never let me starve if I forgot my lunch. I always had money in my bookbag just in case.
@@00Rav3n00 yes my parents did the same and I learned to do it with this little girl. Taking away food to teach the child something is not the right method because I can guarantee you that it can create the opposite effect and make children grow hostile and angry.
my brother recently forgot his lunch as a 15 year old. Did I let him starve, no! I went back home during my free period and gave it to him. If a big sister can do it, so can a mother whose JOB it is to care for a young child. Shit happens, be understanding and bring the lunch, and maybe she would have a better relationship with her kids if she was more understanding.
“chad needs to develop some basic maturity and skills’ isn’t that the parents job to teach? I just dont understand those camps
I don’t know these ppl but still watched ,and hearing this lady say “if not having a bed was physiologically damaging then they wouldnt ..” I WAS TRIGGERED. I had to sleep on the couch for 7 years due to circumstances that no one has fault in .WHEN I TELL U I WAS DEPRESSED AF AND CRIED TO SLEEP EVERY NIGHT. I even grew a rage for my parents that to this day I still carry. But that just my situation. Moral of the story sleeping on anything other than a bed IS DEFFINETLY MENTALLY DAMAGING .But look at that lady saying that well of course she probably has never slept on anything other than a king sized bed..
Nobody deserves that, I hope you have your own bed and are doing better now!
I feel sorry for what you went through :(
Ruby will reap what she sows. Unfortunately, she couldn’t afford her children the same grace her Christ affords his. If only she could have lived up to the moral expectations she set for others. Maybe she would be living an authentically happy and healthy life right now.
She's expecting others to bend to her whim because she believes she is above them and above putting in the work to be an actual contributing member of society. You're totally right she doesn't follow her own practice because she views it as a means to manipulate people under the guise of faith.
lol burn 🤭 but on a serious note, fully agree & I hope those children are able to leave ASAP. She's taking her trauma & mental health issues out on her children & creating generational trauma. How does she even think Christ would approve of this abuse?? I legit can't wrap my mind around it.
The only thing I can think of is it's actual, untreated mental illness Ruby is dealing with. I genuinely hope she gets help. I couldn't imagine living in her head & thinking any of this is ok.
The fact she's "teaching" this backwards abuse to other parents makes me shudder. God help us. 😭🙏🏻
The lunch thing just reminded me of when I was in middle school, I lost my lunchbag and my parents are mad, and I tried to find it but to no avail. My parents just gave a different lunchbag and it was fine. I still regret losing my lunchbag.
It's almost like you don't need to traumatize children to have them learn from a mistake lmao
And look at what happened now! Great job capturing this mess of a parental unit! Monsters
As a mom of four boys, two in elementary it’s my responsibility as their mother to make sure I teach them how to pack lunch but I ALWAYS check to make sure that they have their lunch. I don’t care how far away the school is. I will Uber eats them food before I allow my babies to be hungry.
My family is VERY familiar with Anasazi. One of the founders sons lived with us for a year. My older brothers all went 1-3 times. My one brother who went 3 times was eventually diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder after Anasazi and wayyyyy more traumatizing places. He’s doing great now thankfully. My dad has tried to get me to be a guide, I’ve been to the seminar where they basically breach a book called self determination and leadership or something. I appreciate that they do 2 day seminars for parents recognizing that these kids have social systems that contribute to their “behavioral issues” but overall the methods are more damaging than helpful. They’re unqualified, unsafe, and even abusive. The methodology is traumatizing. My cousin whom I’m very close to as well as a mildly disabled young male I worked with was subject to the same things with parents similar to these, it only fuels issues. Im now becoming a psychiatric nurse practitioner and believe this “wilderness therapy” is nothing short of abuse. Unfortunately I’ve also seen girls on tiktok report sexual abuse. If you were subject to this I’m so sorry!! I’m also concerned about the Daughtery dozen; as the mother reveals A LOT ot personal info about her biological, adopted and foster children, including revealing the 19 year olds have fetal alcohol syndrome and required pull ups at age 10. People hate on their diet but it’s the standard American diet and while it’s bad, I think the focus on the invasion of privacy is more important. Great stufff tea spill!!!
Damn they make the Ace Family seems like the best family in America. Now, these family channels might go away but the child abuse will stay…
Someone put them in jail! NOW
I LOATHE these "parents". They're sick and twisted.
Same. They are pretty much the epiodme of what they preach is "wrong" with the world. They LOVE the control they have over their children, it's absolutely disgusting. I'm not a Psychiatrist, but I do believe the parents (especially Ruby) are narcissistic abusers. And sadly this will most likely affect the kids negatively for the rest of their lives. It breaks my heart. 💔
I want to petition for parents who put there kids into wilderness programs to have to go through the same program before they can send kids
great idea
Ruby: “we’re giving them the gift of HONESTY this year”
Also Ruby: SANTA is not bringing you any gifts because you’re too bad lolol.
I hope those kids grow up quick, go far for college and never come back.
PS: her saying they live in a household SHE provides... The audacity.
Omg facts 😮
Ikr
He liked the camp bc it was a way to get away from the annoying mom