Legion vs. NCR Military
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- In this video, I compare the respective militaries of the New California Republic and Caesar's Legion.
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You sound like Ulysses
The NCR won't go quietly, the Legion can count on that
Think they are going to wish that patroling the mojave created a nuclear winter
They hardly even know how to fight
Ave true to Caesar
The ncr will lead the way for the republic
@@liampetersen4853 Ave true to Tandi
The one irony of the Legion using Hydra as a medicine is how addictive it can be as seen in Camp Forlorn hope. But then again, it's extremely effective and restore all crippled limbs, unlike a doctor bag, unless you're not playing on Hardcore.
I also find that very ironic lol
Better than Fixer which is just really annoying and makes you woozy. Also I wonder why they banned stimpacks even though the normal ones can’t get you addicted
I’m not sure. I think the banning of stim packs doesn’t make a whole lot if sense. Especially since they are composed of similar components to that of healing powder from what I recall.
@@theneocypher Actually I am more confused as to why they would continue on using healing powder when it lowers your perception and Bitter Drink according to Ulysseus is way more effective than it and it’s not too hard to make
@@theneocypher My guess is that it's due to gameplay reasons. For if you use the JSawyer mod, if you make stims which uses the same ingredients as healing powder, they give the same debuffs.
Though a stimpack would require a needle to inject it, my guess is that Caesar wants to avoid needless risks with needle injections. To be honest, I'm surprised by the fact nobody died from injection from rusted or tainted needles in Fallout. Easy to forget just how bad that can be.
One side has M16s and body armor. The other has machetes and football gear.
Realistically there's really only 1 way this goes
The Legion have firearms too, but you're right. I am not at all a fan of the Legions stance on technology.
History does tend to show us the technological superiority is HIGHLY important
They were buying energy / plasma weapons from the van graffs ?
Then the Legion pulls their elite troops on Hoover Dam with AR15s and Thermal Lances
@@Fulcrox The difference between the NCR and the legion is that only the elite troops of the legion get guns.
I just finished Lonesome Road as a Legion aligned Courier and I quickly realised the Ulysses provides enough Legion backstory to the Courier for him/her to truly begin to comprehend it as a faction, thus eventually making Courier a better leader.
The fact there is no right or wrong answer in the topic of the Mojave’s future proves how amazingly crafted new vegas is. Especially if you add mods you see a glimpse of what obsidian really wanted to di
Love that aspect of it :)
What do you mean there's no right or wrong? Legion's obviously right!
oh boy... y'all drank the Kool aid. what about all the valid points, raised against the legion and Caesar by the npcs in new Vegas?
@dibadu234 NO, YOU drank the Kool aid!! True to Caesar!1!11!!!1!
@@dibadu234 that's the thing, these same NPCs also give valid points against house, NCR, and while not any against wildcard, the ending slideshow shows how wildcard is a bit fucked.
I've always loved the martial aspect of the legion combined with their design. I'm more of a fan of fantasy medieval settings, and the legion were the perfect representation of that in a post-apocalyptic setting. Running at enemies with machetes, and making armor from trophies of fallen foes. The whole armor thing with centurions is also really cool, and I wish we got to see some variation in their armor. Like maybe a centurion with armor incorporating bones of a deathclaw.
That would be incredibly cool!
I love that people are still making fallout content I'm glad to see I wasn't alone playing these games back in the day knowing they were something special
Patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
Meanwhile, in Alaska: "Patrolling Anchorage almost makes you wish for a Nuclear Firestorm"
I prefer the NCR simply because it ensures freedom, although the ncr is corrupt i do believe its possible to save through reform, the legion on the other hand will most likely pillage the mojave and will enslave a decent amount of its inhabitants, also i do believe that the legion will get overstratched trying to conquer the ncr and ceaser thinks its an inevitability so will most likely get arrogant and will probably suffer a cirppling defeat either at the hub or maybe baker
It’s certainly possible!
I think thats what a lot of Legion supporters don't understand. The NCR is fucked politically but it can be fixed, however if you're a slave with Legion you're a slave and that's it. Look at the Khans, they got wiped out if the Legion win and all their woman and children were sold to slavery.
I despise the legion, but im not stupid enough to say they wouldnt win without Courier intervention
FOR THE REPUBLIC! ONWARD!
They won’t go quietly!
@@theneocypher THEY CAN COUNT ON THAT
Vetran Rangers are what was the Desert Rangers formerly. It is a bit confusing, I know, I'll explain it in a simple manner.
The Desert Rangers used to operate in Arizona and Nevada, they are a bunch of survivolists who knows how to survive the desert, post war, they turned into an armed version of the Followers of the Apocalyspe specializing in helping small communities against raiders and teaching their skills to anyone who wants to join. Their favorite gear was the pre war riot gear. Some time after the Legion got established, they got kicked out by the Legion forces, they chased them down all the way to Nevada and the group dwendling numbers and power forced them to join the NCR. When they joined, they got an official disignation of "Vetran Rangers" and they are a complitley different entity to the NCR Rangers. The gun they get is after their service with the NCR, as for why some of them have the gun and other don't, some Desert Rangers left Arizona long before the treaty. We even had a Desert Ranger companion in Fallout 1, I think his name was Taico and he wore a pre war riot gear armor.
Many of the troops equipped with the Sequoia revolver were also vets of slaver wars in southern California and attempted to get it banned across the whole country northern California still has it though and on the barrels of the sequoias are the words "For honorable service" on the right
"Against all tyrants" on the left
I'm from radking's video about the Legion/NCR war and love the way you speak about the Legion. Very immersive and well written! I am pro NCR, but I can't always appreciate great work! Keep it up and I can't wait to catch up on your vids!
Welcome! Glad to see you made it over here and super happy you enjoyed the video! Thank you for your kind words as well!
Ave, brother. True to Caesar
Ave!
Both have their pros & cons.
Indeed!
@@theneocypherYA
@@theneocypher yep
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Thank you so much! Glad to see you over here 😁
Legionaries are coded to have more HP than an NCR trooper, but said trooper is usually equipped with better armor
Is this really a question? The NCR won't send more troops to new vegas, and every NCR you talk to is considering suicide. The only reason they win at hoover dam is because of the courier.
What do you mean contemplating suicide?
Morale before a battle is only indicative of morale. It is not indicative of material positioning of the two sides, and both are significant in winning the battle.
The NCR has material strength, entrenched positioning, and stability. The Legion has morale, numbers, and concentration.
My banner shall control the Mojave, render unto Yes Man
For the NCR lads we die till the end
FOR THE REPUBLIC!
If we can defend Hoover Dam once, we can do it again
This comment is NOT true to Caesar
If the courier would just be shot, the Legion would easily win. But if the Legion isn't transformed( like ceaser wants), the Legion would fall apart when ceaser or the legaten dies.
And you earned yourself a new subscriber, I really enjoyed the video
I’m glad you enjoyed it! Welcome aboard!
So they win the battle but lose the war, but not before they "sack" Vegas. Ironic since Caesar's goal is long term stability at all costs, and he paid all costs and still didn't get long term stability.
Idk about that man, do you just mean the battle of Hoover dam? I mean maybe? The legion isn’t very smart (they thought they could fire howitzers at the dam and it would still work/don’t even know how operate the robo doc to help Caesar). Not to mention they’re locked at their own border where their entire army is vs an extremely stretched thin ncr 100s of miles away from the ncr. A full ncr army has 100s of vertibirds, standard distribution of weapons and heavy artillery
If the courier was shot a lot of things would/wouldn't happen. But looking at the game as a game, the legion wins most battles in-game mostly because they have an insane health pool (30-over 100 I believe) compared to the NCR NPCs who have usually all 30 HP. From a realistic standpoint though, if so many legionnaires threw themselves at NCR with guns like they do in game they'd all just get mowed down. Be kind of like Gallipoli but even more stupid lol
Even if they do use guns more, Caesar is the only thing keeping the Legion together by the point the game takes place. If he dies, & Lanius takes over, it's said that the most likely thing to happen (I think in Legion ending slides if Caesar is dead) is that Lanius runs them poorly since he's more of a military general, & it falls apart due to infighting & the like (which already shows a bit while Caesar is alive, so I can imagine it's much worse when he's dead).
@@arcticeagle342 using hp or anything like that is pointless to the discussion of who will win , look at the strategic situation legion has the omertas and various other gangs on their ˝payroll˝ to bother the ncr forcing them to futher thin out their lines to deal with the issue , they burn down nipton which is deep behind the ncr lines , then there is the alt+f4 in camp searchlight , general oliver also placed a metric ton of troops at the dam to protect it but then who will protect the banks further down the river? legion already has cottonwood cove and various raiding camps deeper inside ncr territory , the thin line of troops guarding the banks would be overwhelmed and the morons at the dam would be enveloped and destroyed because the morons at the strip and camp mccaran are tied down by raider degenerates
I gotta disagree with the idea that both sides have the bulk of their millitary in the Mojave.
Lanius isnt concerned about the stability of the legion, just "the east". The east being the area he had recently conquered. He's already near the dam by the time you talk to him about it. Meaning he'd still have at least a decently sized garrison to keep it stable since it was only conquered recently. Moreover in he end credits of the game you see the legion establishing garrisons at pretty nuch every area they take. The caravan guy mentions the roads always being safe, which would require many men to do given the nature of fallout, and the fact that they take slaves and recently conquered the east in what was apparently a major campaign means that theres a whole major area thats undergoing recruitment (lets just call it that lol) even as Lanius is talking to you.
So thats at least 86 garrisons from Caesar, however many more from Lanius and Gragams campaigns, however many it takes to keep the roads safe (and again... it's fallout, that will NOT be a small number), plus however many are controlled by other centurions and such on any other campaigns.
For the NCR the troops constantly complain about not receiving enough men despite conscription. As you said they had the rangers and elite troops protecting the brahman barons. The soldiers have no isea just how far the legion has really pushed in, General Oliver doesn't seem to take the threat of the legion as seriously as he should, and as you've said NCR troops are primarily out on patrol.
Id say probably 10K with the NCR like you said since they based their millitary on the pre war U.S
But for the Legion id say at LEAST 15K. Caesar most definitely wouldn't let some legate have a larger force than himself. And you also forget that the fiends, khans, white legs, and omertas all support Caesar. Which is likely between a few hundred to at most a thousand more (all depends on what their nunbers are supposed to be lore wise).
I agree with you for the most part. I believe that the Legion is represented to have more troops in the campaign than I said in the video. I just can’t confirm it unless I make the claim “well Caesar has hella tents at the fort”. I think that Caesar probably has four legions under his command in the Mojave since that would be a clear historical parallel to caesars campaigns im Gaul, which seemed to be what the writers were going for, for the most part. And the numbers for the factions at the end number in the thousands per faction.
Liked the video a lot!
Only thing that was a bit to make-believe was the estimated numbers portion. Just because a colonel/legate would have so and so many troops doesn't mean much for the NCR and Legion. A Decanus would have had 8 (+servants) under his command, but a CL-Decanus has 4.
It just shows that we can't trust old regimental standards for these armies anymore, even though they were inspired by it.
What i loved the most about the video was how you made clear that both factions are extremely invested in this conflict. Lanius literally comes directly from another conflict and the NCR conscripts like crazy to get meat for the meat grinder
Completely agree.
Whoever made the animations needs a raise. Awesome job
Kinda ironic that Caesar's Legion fights more like Gauls and Germanic tribes while the NCR acts more like the Roman Empire with establishing forts and outposts
Ave, true to Caesar
Ave!
Caesar's hegalian dialectics don't mean shit when an angry mailman decides to swipe a robot army out from under an insane 200 year old billionaire.
I think one thing I took noticed which was maybe left out of the video is how the Legion employs a form a diplomacy within the region such as Tribals to eliminate a rival one or to coherse them into join them by proving the worth of said tribe. Such as seen in Honest Hearts and the Great Khans. The Khans would've had everything stripped of their identity, or be killed for the failure at the battle.
It was also mentioned in the Video about the Stirp and the Fiends both being used but I think that was a minor brush to the side that fact that the Legion has employed in some forms of dimplomacy to gain an advantage. I think with Van Graffs the Legion was doing arms dealing at some point.
But awesome video none the less! Listened to it while driving to my hair cut.
After installing Titans of the New West I've been completely Brotherhood pilled and convinced that they wipe both factions off the face of the Earth with enough suits.
It’s crazy how strong power armor is in lore
This is an awesome video man love the visuals
Thank you so much!! I’m glad you enjoy it 😁
Melee in real life wouldn’t do as good as in game. The NCR would have and easier time in open confrontations compared to the legion
Maybe for a modern professional military. The NCRA can’t really be called that. They’re basically just people with assault rifles who’re taught how not to shoot each other on accident
Ooh. I just had a cool idea pop into my head. Make a game series that has multiple endings. And when you come out with sequals, ask the player what ending they chose in the previous game. The sequal has factions that survived in the sequel. And then NEVER SAY WHATS CANON EVER!! Canon is exclusive to the players' individual choices. 😁👍
THE GREAT BEAR FLAG RAAAA 🦅🦅🦅🧸🧸🧸
True to Caesar
Ave!
Ave!
Ave!
Ave
Ave!
I would love a New Vegas sequel as I really love the game but sadly it will never happen great video tho
With the way stories are being written these day, it may be a good thing that there won’t be a sequel.
@@theneocypher a fair point
Given how wildly different the Mojave will be depending on what path you played, there's no way there could be a canon ending that wouldn't piss off a huge chunk of the fan base.
Best to tell a Different story@@Thagomizer
Hey just wanted to say i just found this channel and its my favorite fallout channel in recent memory your voice and the editing is fantastic i just wish you uploaded more lol but have you considered branching out and maybe doing elder scrolls,dragon age or stalker cause i feel they would suit you wrmell msybe even baldurs gat would be dope aswell also True to Caesar
Thank you so much! I have an elder scrolls video slated to come out this year.. 👀
@theneocypher just saw this that's DOPE can't wait
For The NCR!!
For the Mojave!!.
We shall live forever!!.
Or die trying!!.
This is a good video, but I have to give the NCR the win here due to several factors. First weapons, you may critizize the Republic for not adapting to the legion, but the same could be same for the legions refusual to use "modern" firearms. Second is leadership, if you kill the president of the NCR, he'll be replaced with the vice president or another member within the government. If ceaser dies or is killed, no one knows whos in charge, meaning infighting will happen and will turn into civil war. Lastly is the citizens. Every citizen of the NCR uses guns and really doesn't like the idea of being enslaved. So they would bring asymetric warefare against the legion when they invade california, thus making the war a nightmare to fight in.
^ this, the Legion can not win in the long term due to Ceaser's illness. he will die and the entirety of the legion will devour itself, and Ceaser doesn't have long, he WILL die before the cease fire is over and the NCR will attack while the legion is disorganized.
Yeah but how well do you think NCR soldiers are supplied? How much ammo does the average soldier carry in the post apocalypse. Even in modern battlefields or like that of WW1-WW2 it’s common to run out of ammo. I would say the Legion is much more adapt to fighting in the wastelands using primitive weapons and being proficient warriors.
Long live the NCR! Screw the Legion!
Based on the profile pic im nott surprized
@@historyisawesome6399 Care to explain?
Render unto Caesar, what is Caesar’s and unto God, what is God’s.
Ave!
Joshua Graham when he was rationalizing why he worked for Caesar
Let’s be honest the Legion is primitive primitive versus more modern, 98% of the time primitive loses plus totalitarianism never really last long
The legion was modernizing after the first battle of hoover dam though.
@@johanbjorkman1914 if they really were Cesar should have went into the Roman republic era
Legion fan boys when the realize football pads don’t stop bullets 😦
"Due to the unforseen destruction of the Divide"
my ncr courier: oopsie
Ave, true to Caesar
Ave!
"If we rush them, they can't kill all of us."
-Legion
Ave, true to Caesar🙋♂
Ave!
Retribution!
Ave!
as much as i like both of them for their aesthetics i dont think either is a good choice for the mojave in their current form , the ncr is expanding to its own detriment and a host of other issues while the legion is extremely nebulous and i cant quite put a finger on them outside of the obvious nonsense like slavery etc etc but i suspect that is due to the fact that a lot of their content is missing , also 19:22 is more copium from NCReddit
Big NCR Copium
Nerd Copium Redditors
Alright nerds, the Legion is advancing on our front. What do we say?
"thats why I left one bullet for myself" ?
NCR and strong
NCR win
Ave.....
True to Caesar!
Ncr all the way
NCR for me that armour is dope and the guns are great plus I know ncr has its problems but I see it as mostly good legion will fall apart
You never talked to ceasar did you
@@OrroHelhammer after he dies that’s it no one can rule the legion like him it done after him
@@travsgamingclub8957 vulpus and peatreaion(I don't know how to spell his name) could easily rule after him and the tech in New Vegas could not only save his life but extend it, seriously did you talk to ceasar about his plans?
@@OrroHelhammer dude, by the time you get back with the autodoc piece he's on his last legs. Caesar will die without the currier's influence and Vulpus and Peatreaion can't continue the campaign with their leader dead. With no way forward and the fact they have to return back to their land to reestablish control. if the president dies, NCR will just elect a new one, it's not a serious deal, the NCR will survive JUST FINE without their leader cause they have a smooth way of succession. the Legion, on the other hand, Does not.
@@OrroHelhammerI just went, and saw all the slaves and how brutal they lived. NCR at least offers the same benefits such as protection, roads etc. through taxation instead of slavery lmao.
People will really both sides a totalitarian slave state vs a flawed Republic which is fuckin bonkers to me.
I guess if you're just confidently wrong about philosophy you can rope in lots of idiots.
Or its fiction and post apocolyptic romans are cool? Your not actually "siding" with anything.
@@magicmanbran54 nah mate. If it was just people saying the larp is fun it would be one thing, but there are a lot of people whose defense of the legions policies, and being critical of the NCRs weaknesses goes significantly deeper and to ignore that you have to be a moron.
this just makes the legion seem even cooler
Ave!
Nah both lose, The House always wins
While the NCR and BOS have their differences and grivences, they can both agree that the legion is the greatest threat to humanity since nuclear war. The Legion wants to enslave and bring humanity back to the dark ages.
If i want to explain ncr and legion to my friend usually this is how it goes
Ncr: american my friend
Legion:leroy............ Jenkins
It’s harder than you think to decide which side would be better for the wasteland. I ultimately would choose Caesar because the brutality of the legion in its current state is more of a reflection of the nature of its territory and it’s necessary military doctrine.
Caesar does state once the NCR is conquered they will become an amalgamation of the legion and NCR. The NCR is far too corrupt and to be fair seems to be on the brink of civil war due to the huge class warfare between the political and business class, which we see through the exploitation of the NCR civilians and market fixing by Crimson Caravan, Van Graffs and Brahmin barons.
It gets even harder to decide when Mr. House and Yes Man enter the equation
Mr House is the best choice for Vegas and if he could be trusted not to become a megalomaniac and try to invade the rest of the Mojave then that would be a perfect place for him, but he is too proud and ambitious for his own good. Vegas would prosper under House but the rest of the Mojave would suffer and realistically what we don’t really get to see too much of in game but is such a huge factor is the crime and substance abuse that uncontrolled gambling brings which is exactly what Houses Vegas is now and ultimately would be worse if he was left to his own devices.
It’s funny that I say what I said because I always side with the NCR in my playthroughs, but that’s more to do with the fact that the NCR has so much more content.
I'd like to disagree the NCR as shakey as it's foundation seems is the one that can change the most
The legion simply won't become a stare over night and there will be contention to that even if Caesar tells them to stop
NCR can change simpler and much more stable either through kimball catching a round or being voted out and with him gone the future can be as bleak or as bright as any other democracy, there's even a chance Hanlon could run in one of the endings seeing as he becomes a politician
the NCR is in verge of starvation
Why is it pronounced Kai-soar? If you’re trying to pronounce it in ancient Latin it would be Kai-Sar but it would most definitely be pronounced as the English See-Zar in fallout universe.
Ave, Trve To Caesar
Ave!
I’m surprised with how much they are going for a pure Roman military, they don’t use bulletproof shields at the very least. If they have numbers and have a heavy melee army against ranged enemies it only makes sense.
It makes them look more barbaric to just have them rush enemies with a fire axe or machete as a mob, rather than a cohort
Vive la République !!
This video was really great !!
Thank you so much!!
For the Republic!
NCR 😎
Legion would have been fine if they weren't anti technology and have more slaves than non slaves.
one of the best videos ever
I got one word for ya, RANGERS!!!!
The 1960’s United States Army vs Atomwaffen in plastic sports pads
Not quite
A 1960s U.S. Army with virtually zero air or armor support.
13:00 is that a fan made? That looks amazing. Anyone know whats it called?
Wow what an interesting video, really enjoyed watching this
Glad you enjoyed it
6:30 beat me to it :)
🤣
the legion are the bad guys, but y know i just find them neat.
Lol. There can only be one victor? Dunno man. Victor is one security robot and all security robots
😂
I have never seen a more bias take ever, bro literally a legion larper.
The game has to pull so much to even make the fight competitive. The NCR clears. What happens everytime a random NCR and Legion patrol come across each other? The NCR wipes the floor with them, usually taking no losses or losing 1 guy. The NCR is larger, more advanced, their rank and file troops are better equipped and their high end troops are both better equipped and better trained. The Legion allows no low level decision making, like when Vulpes is threatened with death for making a smart tactical decision. The NCR promotes those that make good tactical decisions. You can say "Vulpes did get promoted" yeah but what about every time Caesar isnt there to bail that smart Legionnaire out and their Centurion kills them? The NCR has the advantage in tactics, equipment, numbers, and firepower. The NCR can conscript citizens, but i dont notice the discussion of the main flaw of the Legion, they have to start a whole new war just to replace their troop numbers. Replacing losses requires an activity that results in more losses, so if one war goes badly they cant replace the manpower. They lose big battles, and they'll lose the war of attrition against the NCR. Ones a developed Society with a functioning government, military, and social structure. The other is the fantasy of a sociopath, a horde of people drawn into one man's cult of personality, one man literally dying of brain cancer during the game and it impedes his decision making! NCR wins easy
Good points.
A lot of gamers tend to forget that the NCR is operating at the complete ass end of their supply lines. They haven’t set up rail lines yet. Even with a Legion victory at Hoover Dam, they can’t push into the NCR. All their troops travel by foot, nothing else. Probably at best they can cover 30 miles in a day. With a network of trains at their disposal, NCR could move thousands of troops hundreds of miles within a day or two.
The Legion can absorb light casualties, but they can’t replace losses on the scale of grand battles like Hoover Dam. They lost, presumably, hundreds to a few thousand men, and it took them almost fiver years to replace their losses. And that was largely from conquering several new tribes.
And it’s true that Casaer is the one thing holding it all together. Whether through the brain tumor or natural age, once he goes, the Legion will eventually fall apart, from (according to House) a year at the earliest to (according to Marcus) a few generations/ 20-30 years.
Point is, the NCR can survive the loss of a great leader, the Legion can not.
It's a good video but still they aren't winning the ncr is modern army with body armor automatic rifles it doesn't matter how elite your dudes with football pads and machetes are they can't stop bullets
I appreciate your vigor, but they are not equivalent to a modern military
I mean... With your logic, the NCR should have kicked the Legion out of the Mojave years ago. NCR troops can't seem to eliminate enough Legion forces per battle to actually make their ARs properly effective.
The best example of the effectiveness of the Legion's forces being that Ranger station they took down without so much as a casualty. Mind you, casualties include the injured.
I dunno man in real life the might of the US was defeated by rice, then goat farmers because of incompetent politicians and leadership of which the NCR is renowned for.
I think we need to remember how neglected the legion was due to the time limit giving and limited resources I believe that they are made to be 50/50 to leave the most roleplayabilty
It’s a matter of tactics because the NCR refuses to change their tactics when fighting the Legion because Oliver is incompetent
Looking forward to the second season of the fallout show
For the republic
I think its a bit inaccurate to attribute the sexism of the legion to utilitarianism. If it was a matter of meritocracy meets utility the slave status would be put upon those who couldn't meet their standards in the military regardless of sex. A utilitarian doesn't ignore good potential soldiers on the basis of ideology. The procreation argument doesn't really work since the legion primarily recruits through conquest, recruiting from internal population growth requires a much different and more sustainable societal model than they operate under.
To be clear, I love the video, just disagreeing on finer points.
"Women filling in various support roles that keep them out of the fighting, including religious figures, such as priestesses" - first time I've heard about it, where's the evidence of women being anything more than slave breeders in the Legion?
NCR 💪
They won’t go quietly!
This is me being silly and is only somewhat related, but maybe something about the radiation (and mild FEV exposure for those who lived close to Mariposa when it exploded) has altered the human body to the point where taking a couple of bullets without instantly dying is feasible for the average wastelander, and that's why melee weapons became prevalent again post-war?
I don't necessarily believe it, but that line of thinking could justify things like tribals, Caesar's Legion, etc being a threat to more industrialized and better equipped factions.
Love how they didn't stop at gund vs old football gear, but they got deeper and deeper in how both factions managed the war effort.
They have guns? Use guerrilla tactics, terrorism, espionage, hit and run, funding raiders and opposition parties.
They have a huge army? Use the small rangers squad, use superior logistics, prepare deeper defense line to wither their numbers, deploy traps.
Ultimately we have the ultimate military machine, with no capacity of building its own social and cultural structure outside of Caesar (conquering New Vegas is for this exact motive, all that Hegelian dialectics thing), and on the other side the ultimate emulators of the liberal capitalistic old world, with all the technological advantages and political disadvantages; there are troopers who actually believe in their liberties, but deserting is not unheard of. The best of the best are not just the physical best, but, befitting NCR's political standing, the Rangers are hard-working, smart and inventive, highly dedicated to the Republic's ideals
SPOILERS FOR THE FALLOUT SHOW!!!!
It seems as if House or Yes Man won in the cannon timeline. Do you plan on doing a video on what you think happened or what that means for each respected side?
I think I will leave that to the show to explain in the next season or so. I may cover the events that led up to whatever the final result was
@@theneocypher good idea man. I’ll stay tuned for that!
Just my speculation, but it seems like Fallout Dust is more cannon than we thought….
Thats what I was thinking too lol turns out, the game really WAS rigged from the start lol
Let’s be real, this is all for the game quality and fun. If this was a real battle, a force wearing football pads and 50-60% machetes and spears, is getting hammerstomped by any force wielding modern firearms.
Congratulations you’re physically trained to be an elite athlete. You’re still not bum rushing a dude with a M16 pointed at you from 30 yards or more and winning.
Did you play the game or watch the video at all?
After listening to the philosophies of both factions, it's clear they were written by prog libs. I can see why some call this game the proto woke game.
I can see how you get that impression
Could you give an example?
You gonna cry about it?
Cuz fascism is bad?
Both are impurities to The Enclave
How TF did I miss 5 videos?! 😭😭
time plays on the NCR's side, Caesar isn't young and everyone agrees when he dies so does the legion. All the NCR has to do is to buy time and given their population, acceptance og women, ghouls and super mutants into the army as well as their arms industry there's no reason to beleive they can'r just hold out until caesar dies aand the legion tears itself apart.
Ave True To Caesar!
I honestly don’t know how the Caesar’s Legion would survive and thrive without “Caesar”.
Legate Lanius? He’s not that charismatic to lead one.
Independent Nevada or bust.
The NCR lacks certain modern equipment that even the armies of ww1 have, like if the NCR can set up a factory to make water cooled machine guns and can make the ammo on mass a Legion wouldn’t even last a hour against a simply encampment.
The NCR has the capability to become a truly industrialized force even grabbing prewar military knowledge could help substantial California has the luck of having military and old war museums that could be looted for more useful knowledge and technical manuals on war. It requires though a competent government and military structure that can restructure it self around countering mass human wave attacks.
We need a new Vegas remake on current gen
13:31 These Sound Like barbarian tactics and very Not Like actually tactics from Caesar besides maybe forced marches
Im not sure that Caesars Legions in Gaul used these tactics as often. Caesar’s strength was in large scale battle capability, alliances, espionage, and scorched earth tactics. He probably didn’t need to resort to these tactics the way Caesars Legion in the game does.
For the REPUBLIC!
Question: If Praetorians have to kill another Praetorian to become a Praetorian… How is there ever more than 1?