VW Golf GTI v Ford Focus ST v Skoda Octavia vRS - DRAG RACE
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- Опубліковано 5 тра 2024
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It’s time for an all-new hot hatch drag race!
First up we’ve got Mat in the new Volkswagen Golf GTI. With a 2-litre turbocharged petrol engine under the bonnet, it can produce 245hp and 370Nm. On the other side of the track, we have the Octavia vRS. Given it’s also a VW Group car, it’s got the same powertrain as the GTI, which means it’s also got a 2-litre turbo petrol, which also produces 245hp & 370Nm!
In-between the VW Groups we have the Ford Focus ST… And on the face of it, you it looks like the favourite! With a 2.3-litre turbo engine, it can put down 280hp and 420Nm of torque!
But as we’ve seen before in previous carwow drag races, the bigger number isn’t always the best! So what do you think - will the all-new GTI have what it takes to snatch the win? There’s only one way to find out… LET’S RACE!
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Yianni only comes for the premium car drag races 👀😂
Matt " I'm doing a drag race, are you free?"
Yianni " Supercars?"
Matt "No, 3 hot hatches"
Yianni " Nah mate, I'm busy"
ye
Heh.
nobody needs that clown
@@thegoodnotbadorugly he once raced a hot hatch when he was wearing the AMG A35 beaten by the Yellow Banana (Audi S3) and others were the BMW 140i, Golf R, and Focus RS. Yes, but those cars are all included in the Hot Hatches Premium Cars , still premium 😂
Petition for Bicycle Drag Races especially between Mat and Yanni.
Yanny will finally burn some fat.
@@user-mx2bz6si8u who cares about your life NOONE LOOOOL
Yanni would break the bike, the large lump.
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I would suggest a sprint and Mr Watson has to carry his girl friend to give yianni a fair chance.
Lets do all Octavia rs gens from 2001 until now, I think it would be great!
This would be really cool. Unfortunetly mk1s that are not abused into the ground are hard to come by. They are pretty rare. I own one too and its a shitbox :D Slowly fixing everything on it but I spent like 2 grand on it already and it still isnt done... They were very cheap when they came out so lot of people with no respect to cars bought them and trashed them...
@@waifuracer6516 I've got a 2010 petrol estate vrs, 120000miles from new absolutely love it. (Apart form the electrical gremlins££££££)
They did all the Skoda RS models
I bought a 2012 Octavia vrs and it was honestly the best car I could have chosen for that price range, the value is absolutely insane performance and comfort
Mann this intro is getting longer every time..
Get UA-cam vanced to skip promotions, intros and outros
@@Mahmood.23 It’s android only
I like that he’s being complete, to be honest.
Carwow getting really greedy and trying to increase the length of their videos to add midreel ads
Definitely
I think that Octavia VRS is the best value here for the speed you get
You can taste the plastic off it though.
@@geetee4037 All 3 of them are plastic fantastic tbh
@@geetee4037 Its not any different comparing to golf
Not sure about its rims... :/
100% agree.
Best looking & best value.
That Skoda looks so cool, and practical too.
Having driven both the focus and the golf, take them for some cornering.. The golf is pretty good, but hands down the focus will run rings around it. For me, i taken the focus. It was so much better at driver feel and can throw it about a lot better than the golf.. Plus the golf broke down twice in the 2 week test drive. They're not very reliable. I've never had an issue with the focus 18 month in now. Never asked for a thing apart from the regular service. And I have abused it.
@@layne4376I’m 9 months into owning mine and it hasn’t put a foot wrong, been brilliant in that regard.
Is it fun to drive?
Ford > VW
We need Hyundai i10 vs VW up vs Fiat 500 vs Skoda Citigo.
Do it
😐
Probably add a Suzuki Swift Sport as well!
@@user-mx2bz6si8u who cares about your life NOONE LOOOOL
That'd be brilliant! 1/8 mile traffic light drag race
@@jonburnell532 Ford switched to a torque converter because they had trouble with getrag dct gearboxes.
When Matt just wins : "I was miles ahead"
When Matt loses by a long way : "god that was so close"
And the Focus is rocketing ahead. Um no, it's got its nose slightly in front.
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And when the Focus beats the Golf he restarts and counts that one....what a cock
Mat, your Škoda pronunciation, is perfect. I know it, cause I'm Czech. Surprised that Focus is the heaviest of them all and that it performed so bad. I expected Focus to beat the Golf at least in some of the scenarious. Kudos to Škoda, big, practical and pretty fast car. Ideal for most people, including families.
Skoda is VW Audi is what is CZECH IN CAR IS NAME Skoda ;)
@@magictoast1331 no, most of their engines are developed in CZ so …
dude..even LAMBORGHINI and porsche IS VW group xdd so what did you cry about ? xd dude dont know nothing about cars and talking..
@@magictoast1331 it Is not the same
Me: Sits on toilet
Also me after 11 minutes: I can't feel my legs
Ure dev not in training
11? Try 45 mins
Drag Race Idea: Golf R.6 vs Golf R.7 vs Golf R.8
@@user-mx2bz6si8u who cares about your life NOONE LOOOOL
@@user-mx2bz6si8u thx for corona
You can check out GTI 1 to 8 // 0-100, 100-0 and a like a minute of track time, it's not including Golf R but it shows the improvements VW has made. ua-cam.com/video/s_OpRqvcxQk/v-deo.html
Imagine drag racing and reviewing cars for a living, can’t relate
🙌
@@carwow now almost 5 million subs. ✌️
Nah its more like a hobby :)
@@sakariaskarlsson634 imagine doing your hobby for a living
Still like the Ford Focus St the most of the 3 🙈
and even, its the best sounding and most underestimated car from those hothatches. And, thank god, its not an VAG
... and best handling :)
The sidelines on that ST definitely make it look like a MazdaSpeed 3
Nothing wrong with that haha mazda 3 looks nice
I’d def buy the Octavia - much more spacious, much better value and unlike the Golf, it’s got gas bonnet struts!
The interior is exactly the same dude. Look the dimensions of the car.
@@oleksandr6187 Bar the boot :)
@@user-mx2bz6si8u who cares about your life NOONE LOOOOL
@@oleksandr6187 Ford switched to a torque converter because they had trouble with getrag dct gearboxes.
And most importantly: its not a golf
As a family man the Octavia wind hands down for me. Boot is massive, interiors nice and well made, front seats are excellent and drive is very decent. Quick enough when you need it and comfy enough with all round great fuel economy!
Your description method is more than presenting a car, you should be professors. Honestly very good 👍 I watch carwow since 2016 every car you advertising has got unique description.
Do a drag with the “old” mp4-12c and some new supercars
You should do a octavia VRS TSI drag race with the new 245 VS 2019 245 VS 200 VS 180 see how they have advanced over the year's
Absolutely!
No.
I agree
Yeah I agre
Yes!
VRS is the perfect all rounder....big family car with massive boot, decent performance and good value 👍
The golf is a better all rounder
And with some tuning the skoda becomes a sleeper😉
@@chrisdicko1683 i agree. How does he think the golf is a better all rounder when its a compact hatch with a small boot compared to the large family car with big boot...that is pretty much the same performance. I do think my golf r estate is a great all rounder though
I’d rather have a Golf it’s more agile and better in corners, the Skoda is nice but not my cup of tea. Also when I’m shopping for a hot hatch big family car and massive boot are never what I’m looking for plus it looks nearly as big as a Passat.
@@valwei2 absolutely! I've got a mk3 vRS with just a stage 1 tune. Such a great cruiser and surprisingly quick. Ultimate sleeper for dads 😂.
I had 4 Vrs Octavias... If I won the lotto, I would have a full lineup of them ❤️👍
What one is best?mk1 mk2 or mk3
@@johnlyons1394 i won a mk2 and it's just great! but i do recommend the mk3.
Matt's German impressions are amazing... Favorite is still him saying how the Porsche turbo will crush them
REmember when the intro was like 30 seconds?
Pepperidge farm remembers
Good ol time
Use sponsor block extension
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@@RomaneMaticaliseGordon pepperidge* lol
OMG u have to cut down on the plugs and ads. Its taken up like 50% of the vid. its just annoying
I didnt have to watch a single ad, wdym? lol
Finally someone has said it
It's 2020 guys. Almost 2021. Y'all need to earn money and spend it on UA-cam premium. At least get a fckn UA-cam ad blocker. Like it's freereeeeeeeeee if you can't afford premium
@@Mo-ug2vf it’s not UA-cam ads, it’s his own ads for his merch and stuff
@@remcita Impressive that you managed to miss the ads. I mean the channel is technically one big ad for carwow. But this video was particularly ridiculous.
the "go to our website buy our t-shirt and other merch"
"Go to carwow.com for deals on new cars"
"If you want to see which one of these cars we got a deal on go to carwow"
"If you want to watch the Golf review click this pop out banner"
"If you want t watch me do a different drag race click this pop out banner"
Etc.
For the sound from your gti, Its strange because mine does pops full stocks. (I have only 100kms)
the rear of the focus looks so good, whatever happened to the front facia
“The ECU’s are in sync now.”😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Back Ze F**k off 😂
@@anthonyraine1667 that was jokes.
But the Ford lost because of the torque converter.
Hahahahah
I swear he has the best job ever
Fr
Yes this is true
@@user-mx2bz6si8u who cares about your life NOONE LOOOOL
They lock him up in the basement until sunday when it's drag race time...
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Let’s forget the Focus and bring back the escort, imagine a 2021 Escort Cosworth
Next video.. focus ST auto Vs Honda Type R.
Which one more fun and better for daily use ?
Everyone: "Dragking"
Matt: "Dragkink"
He pronounces some words weirdly, like that "kink" instead of "king".
Their merch is pretty ugly tbh
"Less power, but actually more power in the real world" LOL
Because of the gearbox probably
You can bet that those VAG cars have between 260 and 270 hp.
They always understate their power figures.
@@hodzicd.4086 And it weghted more probably
And the Focus st and rs usually dont have their rated power!
At least all 5 cylinder models are way under their rated values, probably its the same with this model, the gearbox should close the clutch at second or third gear so that there is not much difference
It should have, it’s £5k more if you want to to the same spec.
I love Octavia. Very nice car for daily use
Hi Mat,
Would you test the same affordable car, FWD version vs AWD one?
I am thinking at the same Cinderella from your test, the old 2018-2019 Octavia 5E, the 2.0 TSI 190HP, 320Nm that come in both FWD and AWD (Haldex 5) versions.
I tried to find a test like this, but found nothing professional grade.
Mat please make a "So what exactly happened?" T-Shirt.
Yeahhhh😂
You can make for yourself there are some sites
@@user-mx2bz6si8u who cares about your life NOONE LOOOOL
Yes please!
@@user-mx2bz6si8u stop spamming your self promotion links your worthless..
I just bought the ST so wasn’t to happy to see that lol
mike farrow its probably more fun in The corners anyway. Its a great car!
Ford sounds better, more fun in the corners and with stick shift its faster than the GTI
@@_Atomic_impact I took it for a test drive and loved it 😃
@@Magic_Vince are u okay? Lmao
Should’ve gotten the GTI mate 😭
19" alloys for the Octavia vs. 18" for the Golf. Not a minor difference I should say. I assume the 19" Xtreme is heavier but even if not, it is difficult to start rolling a 19 incher that a pair of 18" alloys. The Octavia is heavier as well. So there you go. Put some 18" Oz Alleggeritas on the Octavia and the Golf is bye-bye ;)
Good drag race as always !
What is all the extra torque and displacement in the ST doing? 🤦🏼♂️
Was wandering too. Maybe the gearbox have longer gears?
getting lost in that auto trans
Re-do the race with a manual version. Then we’ll see whose boss.
power eating torque converter
The automatic Ford trans have always been slow as hell in my experience. Adding the turbo lag the ST has just makes it slower. At least for me it‘s a more emotional ride though, more fun
Love the design of the Octavia VRS - its clean, modern and sporty
And 0815 Design. Vw or audi like.. 🤮
RS
I think it understeer alot.
@@LyneXOX Not in GB! It's the VRS!
@@BIRKERBOYZ nope, RS. Show me Skoda called vRS... "ŠKODA OCTAVIA RS"
Absolutely love this channel! Keep up the the good work
@carwow how about adding a comparison table to summarise the performance after introducing the cars being raced?
*Respect for Škoda.* I thought that Škoda would always be the last, but I was pleasantly surprised.
Yeah, not bad for a car used only by taxi drivers lol
"Respect for Škoda" Powerwise this is literally the Golf with a different body.
Well, it's a golf
it's a slavic car that is why
Haha taxi drivers. That's a comedy comment dude.
I think the manual focus would do better on the top end than the auto focus
Automann TV has the real times for all these cars...............Manual ST too, no auto
A shame that they test the manual here. Fail!
@@scrappycoco3687 Not fail. Even test. All automatic.
@@pokest225 not even, GTI with DSG is faster then manual. Focus manual faster then auto. + GTI got lunch control, focus has lunch control with manual. So not even test.
@@pinobrozic1 all automatic. It's not possible to make it more even. Focus is also more powerful.
The fact is simply that the focus gearbox is bad.
This VW AG TSI drill sound is weird. I heard it in 1.2 TSI in Fabia when I intense accelerated. First I thought it is a failure, but l later I got, it is the characteristic :D
Skoda all the way 👌 Guaranteed that's the one you could live with easiest in real life 😂
A few years ago, I was lucky enough to have a new company estate car every 6 months. I had BMW, Audi, Volvo, VW, Vauxhall, Peugeot, Renault and Skoda. The Skoda beat all except the BMW which was a 330d M Sport and a very nice car. I had the Audi ( A4 S-Line ) replace one of my Octavia and I was gutted. As I have 3 young children my daily driver is now a Transporter T6, when they are out of their car seats the Octavia VRS May be my next car, or I may try the Superb as that is supposed to be awesome. You can’t get better than being prepared to put your own money down on a vehicle, I can’t recommend the Skoda enough. ( the first time I attended a site in my first Octavia, a sub contractor who drove an M5 as his company car, took a look and went straight to his local VAG Group and ordered an VRS straight away ).
Remember the good old days of drag races starting at the beginning of the video
Finally a drag race which isnt recorded in June 2019
What you on about you numpty.
Mat can you please show the back of the cars during the brake test? I like seeing the ESS in operation under hard braking haha
Hi Mat, could you do a drag race of all the f series m power cars
The golf’s wheels are the worst I’ve seen on a gti golf (or many a performance car for a number of years).
Am I the only person who thinks those wheels look good? Or am I crazy?
@@emailofjamesw think your a bit crazy but I mean you’re entitled to your opinion
I actually love them..
I agree they look shit on it.
Don’t worry they look dog shit, they belong on an electric vehicle...
I'll go with the vrs, the sexiest FWD for me,well performing,less pricy, amazing boot space and overall space,just a ECU remap and downpipe and that's a perfect hatch.
It’s a saloon/sedan.
The Fabia is the Skoda hatch.
@peter it may be a saloon shape but its a hatchback by definition- the boot hinges at the top of the roof
@@peterhendry1149 Plus, it (Octavia) rides on the golf chasis.
@@DrPepper22222 that’s a very good point
I have the 184 octavia and I love it
"I'm in a race, I have eco, comfort and SPORT, I'll just use comfort"
As always. The rolling race will go long if Matt stands a chance to catch back. If hes ahead the race will be short.... Great channel. Only a pitty its about Matt and not about the... cars
I'd love to see dyno runs incorporated into these tests, just to see who's telling the truth about their power figures 🤣
Nooooo... noo
I'm sure I watched a mk8 Gti dyno video last night and it was pretty much the official HP and torque. It could be that the press cars are not running honest ECUs.
@@milchpuder if it put 245 at the wheels, that means it has more at the crank..
@@milchpuder the ECU could be programmed far more aggressively if launch mode or something similar is engaged. Then if the car is put on dyno the ECU could be programmed to enable GPS, so it knows the car is accelerating when stationary = official power figures.
@H FG The Fiesta ST dosent.
I would have the vrs in the estate. Would love to see a octavia vrs ony drag race from mk1 to mk4
Pls make a drag race and/or review of the new bmw 128ti compared to golf gti clubsport etc.
I’d like to see how the GTI stacks up agains the Manual ST.
I just love performance and practicality of skoda! 🤑
sedans are not practical. Isn't there an RS station wagon?
@@neovenom9833 its not a sedan its a liftback everyone says it every time, its a fricking liftback and it have quite a space in both versions
@@neovenom9833 Not a sedan, but a liftback. The trunk and it's opening are huge.
I'd love to know how the manual ST would hold up, got a feeling like the awful auto is eating all the torque.
Could be, but then you introduce the variable of a person shifting. My guess would be a similar result ('15 FoST owner here).
@@ALMX5DP Also, the ST is heavier than the other 2 which really does NOT help when trying to get off the line without launch control!
@@FatHead1979 pretty sure the extra weight on top of the wheels helps it a bit off the line, doesnt help is in the rolling though
The cars should have the same type and level of fuel otherwise is pointless. Breaking distance can be measured with vbox & then would be fair...
@@FastLifeVlog it's entertainment, there are spec sheets if you just want data.
You can actually bypass the soft limiter with a simple dsg trick and there is a video on YT which shows the method (works for manuals too).
Mat: drops glass
Mom: what happend?
Mat: click on the pop out banner to find out.
🤭 you didn't. I'm done.
I cant describe the happiness when I see the Carwow logo in my notifications. I just click faster than yiannis reaction time!!!
Would be interesting to see how a manual ST fares in the same test. And use the automatic ST in the same test.
The manual would certainly loose. What’s strange though is the australian video mag where they tested the automatic and manual they for the best run got a 13.9s. So why is it so slow here?
They did however say you had to ”soft” press the throttle at start to have less wheel spin and get best speed. Either way, they got several low 14.xs runs before the 13.9s.
I would guess this result has to do with gear box tuning. The Focus seems pretty fast in the first three gears, then gears become too long and it looses to the VAG cars.
It only has 6 gears available in Sport/Track mode seventh is disabled btw.
I actually own ford focus st 2017 2.0L ecoboost and i never lost drag race to my friend with golf gti not sure what year he have but i think its 2016. Both cars are practicly stock just removed mufflers nad resonators + added custom bov thats all.
I had a 2014 ford st the first version to come out in tangerdream to here u say the ford exaust is now better thats amazing and to how it does to a golf git its nice
The Skoda could be a perfect sleeper if you got it tuned as it's capable in stock sharing the GTI platform but with a tune not many people would expect it too be so quick
When is the bugatti Chiron getting drag raced mat??!!
Has the Mt ford has a real Launchcontrol with tireslip also controlled? There are often rev holder advertised as LC.
My ST Automatic beats the golf GTI TCR and Clubsport.
Sure that the GTI Cars has the normal ECU?
I would love to see these cars on the dyno! Feels strange that the two 245hp beat the 280hp....
Only explanation is the poorer efficiency of the torque converter (?)
Mat at the interrogation:
So, what exactly happened?
Love this show!
Am curious have u kept a count how many go pros now rest in camera heaven over the years.
0:45 it is a pity that they no longer make the Ford Focus RS because of all those environmental measures
Huh? They no longer make the Ford Focus RS?😳What’s their answer to the Golf R then?
@@Turtleback8024 none
No one appreciate the girl who counts for them ❤️
Girls can race cars too. If the car has automatic gearbox.... :)
Simp
we all DO appreciate her
@@vladimirkraus1438 That is of course not correct. I recently saw a German video in which a girl in a manual Audi was racing against 3 boys. I think she won
@@inotoni6148 What I wrote is called a joke. I am afraid there are no German videos about jokes...
VW has been underrating their house figures since the MK4 Gens, clearly they make way more power than advertised
Plus it pulls way harder up top than the focus, because turbo is bigger, just defined from the factory
También lleven estos videos a la plataforma de carwow Latinoamérica 🙌🏽
Creo que mejorarían su audiencia de dicha plataforma, si llevaron todos los videos y no solo algunos :(
Looks like theres something wrong with that ST or is it just me?
Ford switched to a torque converter because they had trouble with getrag dct gearboxes.
Definitely something wrong with it and I think you're right, it's the looks!!
They need to test the manual because what's an ST without its manual counterpart
Yeah it's got an auto
I have seen a manual ST go below 14 seconds. so yeah there is that.
8:12 - "I lost so I'm going to make up a test to see if I can win again!"
Classic Matt. 😝
Carwow Guy: You never know.
Mat: We will know. 😂
I would like to see Megane RS VS Ford focus ST vs SEAT LEON CUPRA & VS HYUNDAI I30N fastback 🤔
ford, how could u start so fast but end up losing the race..
😓
@@carwow Following Mat since 2012, first time being replied, Thanks! :D
Probably because of the gearbox...
Shift times didn't look to good compared to the Skoda and Golf
And its heavier
Torque converter takes out 10-15% torque/Power. Wheel HP should be the Same at all three
5 million special
You vs Yianni running.
Please make it happen, everyone is asking for it!
2.3 l turbo in st . It is detuned version of rs. Rs had same 2.3l turbo. Same engine in golf and vrs.
You should try a Evo 10 vs Subaru STI vs GTR vs Supra drag race :D
These tests really should include cornering tests as well!
Having driven hot-hatches from both VAG and Ford I predict there's going to be some interesting differences as you were hinting @10:!5
The Škoda Octavia surprised very nicely. It's a very good car.👌
I want graphics with car specs!!!!
Skoda looks awesome plus it’s practical golf has the best performance, but I would take the focus for the manual box, and the overall handling.
We want to drag race that include all generations of octavia rs (this gen, mk3 tsi, mk2 tfsi and mk1 1.8t)
Tdi versions aswell
Id get behind that thats a video i would love to see.
The fact the focus lost to the GTI, when there’s a golf R that’s even faster, shows how bad a move it was for Ford to not do an RS this generation
I lament the loss of the RS too, but may just make financial sense in this era of electrification. Ford may have put all that money into the Mustang Mach E development (which seems to be the only true Tesla Model 3/Y competitor currently).
An mk3 RS would still beat a new golf r though.
@@Mattyzetec1 nope ,the RS is quite old,does 13.5 seconds 1/4 while the GOLF R best it did was 12.3,does 12.5 mostly
@@robb5828 because the RS it's a manual
Cool merch mat. I would like to buy it .thank u.
i'd have the octavia, had one a few years ago bloody good car. although I do have to add the build quality is a little on the poor side, not had a skoda that didn't have faults from new.
Matt is too funny, love that carwow is a relaxed business and lets him give it a nice personality
I love you drag races, especially those with cheaper cars. Could you please race FWD Seat Leon Cupra as well? I think it’s a great car, but you always miss it.
Hey guys can u do the same test with these 3 cars and add the Hyundai i30n and the Kia Ceed GT? (not the ProCeed)
Can you do the old volkswagens? gti/g60/vr6