VW Golf GTI v Ford Focus ST v Skoda Octavia vRS - DRAG RACE

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  • Опубліковано 27 лис 2024

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  • @ralfhanna403
    @ralfhanna403 4 роки тому +2649

    Mann this intro is getting longer every time..

    • @Mahmood.23
      @Mahmood.23 4 роки тому +42

      Get UA-cam vanced to skip promotions, intros and outros

    • @Nathan.150
      @Nathan.150 4 роки тому +11

      @@Mahmood.23 It’s android only

    • @stefanbraem
      @stefanbraem 4 роки тому +21

      I like that he’s being complete, to be honest.

    • @curleypubes3672
      @curleypubes3672 4 роки тому +105

      Carwow getting really greedy and trying to increase the length of their videos to add midreel ads

    • @garg_ak
      @garg_ak 4 роки тому +6

      Definitely

  • @mrsb4985
    @mrsb4985 4 роки тому +2712

    Yianni only comes for the premium car drag races 👀😂

    • @thegoodnotbadorugly
      @thegoodnotbadorugly 4 роки тому +358

      Matt " I'm doing a drag race, are you free?"
      Yianni " Supercars?"
      Matt "No, 3 hot hatches"
      Yianni " Nah mate, I'm busy"

    • @AndreiAndrei-rt4po
      @AndreiAndrei-rt4po 4 роки тому +4

      ye

    • @anshulshah1219
      @anshulshah1219 4 роки тому +2

      Heh.

    • @georgeionescu6425
      @georgeionescu6425 4 роки тому +46

      nobody needs that clown

    • @kimiroihanz9924
      @kimiroihanz9924 4 роки тому +18

      @@thegoodnotbadorugly he once raced a hot hatch when he was wearing the AMG A35 beaten by the Yellow Banana (Audi S3) and others were the BMW 140i, Golf R, and Focus RS. Yes, but those cars are all included in the Hot Hatches Premium Cars , still premium 😂

  • @schuletrip
    @schuletrip 4 роки тому +92

    As a family man the Octavia wind hands down for me. Boot is massive, interiors nice and well made, front seats are excellent and drive is very decent. Quick enough when you need it and comfy enough with all round great fuel economy!

  • @xdurance773
    @xdurance773 4 роки тому +340

    Lets do all Octavia rs gens from 2001 until now, I think it would be great!

    • @waifuracer6516
      @waifuracer6516 3 роки тому +20

      This would be really cool. Unfortunetly mk1s that are not abused into the ground are hard to come by. They are pretty rare. I own one too and its a shitbox :D Slowly fixing everything on it but I spent like 2 grand on it already and it still isnt done... They were very cheap when they came out so lot of people with no respect to cars bought them and trashed them...

    • @africansinclair
      @africansinclair 3 роки тому +3

      @@waifuracer6516 I've got a 2010 petrol estate vrs, 120000miles from new absolutely love it. (Apart form the electrical gremlins££££££)

    • @The_Annoyed_chef
      @The_Annoyed_chef 8 місяців тому +3

      They did all the Skoda RS models

    • @dominikkiss9274
      @dominikkiss9274 2 місяці тому

      VRS not rs

  • @and7iac
    @and7iac 4 роки тому +1314

    I think that Octavia VRS is the best value here for the speed you get

    • @geetee4037
      @geetee4037 4 роки тому +64

      You can taste the plastic off it though.

    • @imkirbo3094
      @imkirbo3094 4 роки тому +170

      @@geetee4037 All 3 of them are plastic fantastic tbh

    • @Jamboraama
      @Jamboraama 4 роки тому +70

      @@geetee4037 Its not any different comparing to golf

    • @Pishi067
      @Pishi067 4 роки тому +7

      Not sure about its rims... :/

    • @djd6610
      @djd6610 4 роки тому +83

      100% agree.
      Best looking & best value.

  • @SaintMecha
    @SaintMecha 4 роки тому +755

    We need Hyundai i10 vs VW up vs Fiat 500 vs Skoda Citigo.
    Do it

    • @carwow
      @carwow  4 роки тому +159

      😐

    • @AutodrivenPriyanshu
      @AutodrivenPriyanshu 4 роки тому +35

      Probably add a Suzuki Swift Sport as well!

    • @vanesc69
      @vanesc69 4 роки тому +4

      @@쇼츠중독자전용채널 who cares about your life NOONE LOOOOL

    • @jonburnell532
      @jonburnell532 4 роки тому +7

      That'd be brilliant! 1/8 mile traffic light drag race

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 4 роки тому +2

      @@jonburnell532 Ford switched to a torque converter because they had trouble with getrag dct gearboxes.

  • @Guvb235
    @Guvb235 4 роки тому +434

    I’d def buy the Octavia - much more spacious, much better value and unlike the Golf, it’s got gas bonnet struts!

    • @oleksandr6187
      @oleksandr6187 4 роки тому +11

      The interior is exactly the same dude. Look the dimensions of the car.

    • @Adam-mt7jd
      @Adam-mt7jd 4 роки тому +8

      @@oleksandr6187 Bar the boot :)

    • @vanesc69
      @vanesc69 4 роки тому +7

      @@쇼츠중독자전용채널​ who cares about your life NOONE LOOOOL

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 4 роки тому +5

      @@oleksandr6187 Ford switched to a torque converter because they had trouble with getrag dct gearboxes.

    • @Magnusfication
      @Magnusfication 4 роки тому +15

      And most importantly: its not a golf

  • @ayushasuvarna.8399
    @ayushasuvarna.8399 3 роки тому +128

    That Skoda looks so cool, and practical too.

  • @laddtrycksberoende
    @laddtrycksberoende 4 роки тому +147

    OMG u have to cut down on the plugs and ads. Its taken up like 50% of the vid. its just annoying

    • @remcita
      @remcita 4 роки тому +10

      I didnt have to watch a single ad, wdym? lol

    • @aa_1237
      @aa_1237 4 роки тому +6

      Finally someone has said it

    • @Mo-ug2vf
      @Mo-ug2vf 4 роки тому +4

      It's 2020 guys. Almost 2021. Y'all need to earn money and spend it on UA-cam premium. At least get a fckn UA-cam ad blocker. Like it's freereeeeeeeeee if you can't afford premium

    • @somedankboi6093
      @somedankboi6093 4 роки тому +9

      @@Mo-ug2vf it’s not UA-cam ads, it’s his own ads for his merch and stuff

    • @benrgrogan
      @benrgrogan 4 роки тому +4

      @@remcita Impressive that you managed to miss the ads. I mean the channel is technically one big ad for carwow. But this video was particularly ridiculous.
      the "go to our website buy our t-shirt and other merch"
      "Go to carwow.com for deals on new cars"
      "If you want to see which one of these cars we got a deal on go to carwow"
      "If you want to watch the Golf review click this pop out banner"
      "If you want t watch me do a different drag race click this pop out banner"
      Etc.

  • @snake_3608
    @snake_3608 4 роки тому +476

    Imagine drag racing and reviewing cars for a living, can’t relate

    • @carwow
      @carwow  4 роки тому +63

      🙌

    • @troll2637
      @troll2637 4 роки тому +11

      @@carwow now almost 5 million subs. ✌️

    • @sakariaskarlsson634
      @sakariaskarlsson634 4 роки тому +3

      Nah its more like a hobby :)

    • @andylie7699
      @andylie7699 3 роки тому

      @@sakariaskarlsson634 imagine doing your hobby for a living

  • @mj2k179
    @mj2k179 4 роки тому +4742

    Petition for Bicycle Drag Races especially between Mat and Yanni.

    • @lunarticgaming1655
      @lunarticgaming1655 4 роки тому +92

      Yanny will finally burn some fat.

    • @vanesc69
      @vanesc69 4 роки тому +12

      @@쇼츠중독자전용채널 who cares about your life NOONE LOOOOL

    • @v-gun9735
      @v-gun9735 4 роки тому +13

      Yanni would break the bike, the large lump.

    • @dublaj0450
      @dublaj0450 4 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/FGNcCPr8bsI/v-deo.html

    • @hassan300z
      @hassan300z 4 роки тому +9

      I would suggest a sprint and Mr Watson has to carry his girl friend to give yianni a fair chance.

  • @notbamdyn4177
    @notbamdyn4177 Рік тому +23

    I bought a 2012 Octavia vrs and it was honestly the best car I could have chosen for that price range, the value is absolutely insane performance and comfort

    • @lenochliny8261
      @lenochliny8261 4 місяці тому

      😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣👎

    • @si_vis_amari_ama
      @si_vis_amari_ama 3 місяці тому

      Me too; vrs tdi, same year. Got it so cheap, its a great car!

    • @mrvn7.5
      @mrvn7.5 2 місяці тому

      And still gets gapped by GTI’s 😂
      I have the 7.5 gti performance Skoda’s are slow asf and ugly its just a way way cheaper Volkswagen

    • @si_vis_amari_ama
      @si_vis_amari_ama 2 місяці тому

      @@mrvn7.5 Well mate that's all I can afford and I am appreciative of my lovely 2012 vRS TDI. It does all I ask of it and its a pleasure to drive. Saved myself AUD $50,000, not that I have that $ to spend lol.🙂

    • @mrvn7.5
      @mrvn7.5 2 місяці тому

      @@si_vis_amari_ama thats where it’s about when you love youre car the most!And who knows maybe one day you drive a RS3 or something🙏🏼 sorry for my first comment it was a little bit shite of me 😅

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers 4 роки тому +558

    When Matt just wins : "I was miles ahead"
    When Matt loses by a long way : "god that was so close"

    • @jurassicmatt2796
      @jurassicmatt2796 4 роки тому +9

      And the Focus is rocketing ahead. Um no, it's got its nose slightly in front.

    • @nassima2010D
      @nassima2010D 4 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/gmb7fVselg4/v-deo.html

    • @andrewhogan4128
      @andrewhogan4128 4 роки тому +4

      And when the Focus beats the Golf he restarts and counts that one....what a cock

  • @stan_austin
    @stan_austin 4 роки тому +465

    VRS is the perfect all rounder....big family car with massive boot, decent performance and good value 👍

    • @villeandersson9501
      @villeandersson9501 4 роки тому +19

      The golf is a better all rounder

    • @valwei2
      @valwei2 4 роки тому +55

      And with some tuning the skoda becomes a sleeper😉

    • @khfjvc4632
      @khfjvc4632 4 роки тому +39

      @@chrisdicko1683 i agree. How does he think the golf is a better all rounder when its a compact hatch with a small boot compared to the large family car with big boot...that is pretty much the same performance. I do think my golf r estate is a great all rounder though

    • @antonthompson7838
      @antonthompson7838 4 роки тому +9

      I’d rather have a Golf it’s more agile and better in corners, the Skoda is nice but not my cup of tea. Also when I’m shopping for a hot hatch big family car and massive boot are never what I’m looking for plus it looks nearly as big as a Passat.

    • @kevildub
      @kevildub 4 роки тому +10

      @@valwei2 absolutely! I've got a mk3 vRS with just a stage 1 tune. Such a great cruiser and surprisingly quick. Ultimate sleeper for dads 😂.

  • @matthewrlawton57
    @matthewrlawton57 4 роки тому +466

    You should do a octavia VRS TSI drag race with the new 245 VS 2019 245 VS 200 VS 180 see how they have advanced over the year's

  • @Ed50482
    @Ed50482 3 роки тому +26

    The sidelines on that ST definitely make it look like a MazdaSpeed 3

    • @Inf3Rno
      @Inf3Rno 3 роки тому +2

      Nothing wrong with that haha mazda 3 looks nice

  • @riz8961
    @riz8961 4 роки тому +297

    I swear he has the best job ever

    • @diyyarhassan3424
      @diyyarhassan3424 4 роки тому +1

      Fr

    • @anandpushkar7510
      @anandpushkar7510 4 роки тому +1

      Yes this is true

    • @vanesc69
      @vanesc69 4 роки тому +2

      ​@@쇼츠중독자전용채널 who cares about your life NOONE LOOOOL

    • @jimbeam4736
      @jimbeam4736 4 роки тому +1

      They lock him up in the basement until sunday when it's drag race time...

    • @dublaj0450
      @dublaj0450 4 роки тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/FGNcCPr8bsI/v-deo.html

  • @BIRKERBOYZ
    @BIRKERBOYZ 4 роки тому +691

    Love the design of the Octavia VRS - its clean, modern and sporty

    • @russelsaukanjpz1057
      @russelsaukanjpz1057 3 роки тому +4

      And 0815 Design. Vw or audi like.. 🤮

    • @LyneXOX
      @LyneXOX 3 роки тому +10

      RS

    • @makaveli2140
      @makaveli2140 3 роки тому +1

      I think it understeer alot.

    • @BIRKERBOYZ
      @BIRKERBOYZ 3 роки тому +10

      @@LyneXOX Not in GB! It's the VRS!

    • @LyneXOX
      @LyneXOX 3 роки тому +5

      @@BIRKERBOYZ nope, RS. Show me Skoda called vRS... "ŠKODA OCTAVIA RS"

  • @Detail_Den_UK
    @Detail_Den_UK 4 роки тому +184

    What is all the extra torque and displacement in the ST doing? 🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @blackwidow7804
      @blackwidow7804 4 роки тому +21

      Was wandering too. Maybe the gearbox have longer gears?

    • @aztakurva7836
      @aztakurva7836 4 роки тому +80

      getting lost in that auto trans

    • @Detail_Den_UK
      @Detail_Den_UK 4 роки тому +65

      Re-do the race with a manual version. Then we’ll see whose boss.

    • @dukemiko
      @dukemiko 4 роки тому +15

      power eating torque converter

    • @Mertimore
      @Mertimore 4 роки тому +12

      The automatic Ford trans have always been slow as hell in my experience. Adding the turbo lag the ST has just makes it slower. At least for me it‘s a more emotional ride though, more fun

  • @JackKello
    @JackKello 4 роки тому +101

    Me: Sits on toilet
    Also me after 11 minutes: I can't feel my legs

  • @n-e-r-d_fngamingfarrow992
    @n-e-r-d_fngamingfarrow992 4 роки тому +299

    I just bought the ST so wasn’t to happy to see that lol

    • @_Atomic_impact
      @_Atomic_impact 4 роки тому +76

      mike farrow its probably more fun in The corners anyway. Its a great car!

    • @Magic_Vince
      @Magic_Vince 4 роки тому +122

      Ford sounds better, more fun in the corners and with stick shift its faster than the GTI

    • @n-e-r-d_fngamingfarrow992
      @n-e-r-d_fngamingfarrow992 4 роки тому +8

      @@_Atomic_impact I took it for a test drive and loved it 😃

    • @vukkukulicic2507
      @vukkukulicic2507 4 роки тому +18

      @@Magic_Vince are u okay? Lmao

    • @TheWildAikputaTree
      @TheWildAikputaTree 4 роки тому +39

      Should’ve gotten the GTI mate 😭

  • @4nglez107
    @4nglez107 4 роки тому +281

    Drag Race Idea: Golf R.6 vs Golf R.7 vs Golf R.8

    • @vanesc69
      @vanesc69 4 роки тому +10

      ​@@쇼츠중독자전용채널 who cares about your life NOONE LOOOOL

    • @lol4224
      @lol4224 4 роки тому +1

      @@쇼츠중독자전용채널 thx for corona

    • @steffenstahl3955
      @steffenstahl3955 4 роки тому

      You can check out GTI 1 to 8 // 0-100, 100-0 and a like a minute of track time, it's not including Golf R but it shows the improvements VW has made. ua-cam.com/video/s_OpRqvcxQk/v-deo.html

  • @ChopStickZero
    @ChopStickZero 4 роки тому +359

    REmember when the intro was like 30 seconds?

  • @Dim4ik2012
    @Dim4ik2012 3 роки тому +50

    I love Octavia. Very nice car for daily use

  • @tomiq5051
    @tomiq5051 4 роки тому +223

    *Respect for Škoda.* I thought that Škoda would always be the last, but I was pleasantly surprised.

  • @Bahadir.t
    @Bahadir.t 4 роки тому +182

    ford, how could u start so fast but end up losing the race..

    • @carwow
      @carwow  4 роки тому +35

      😓

    • @Bahadir.t
      @Bahadir.t 4 роки тому +8

      @@carwow Following Mat since 2012, first time being replied, Thanks! :D

    • @MichiganBoy-nb9vf
      @MichiganBoy-nb9vf 4 роки тому +26

      Probably because of the gearbox...
      Shift times didn't look to good compared to the Skoda and Golf

    • @MichiganBoy-nb9vf
      @MichiganBoy-nb9vf 4 роки тому +4

      And its heavier

    • @momanskiakabiffbuz6004
      @momanskiakabiffbuz6004 4 роки тому +12

      Torque converter takes out 10-15% torque/Power. Wheel HP should be the Same at all three

  • @FOVKRO
    @FOVKRO 4 роки тому +100

    The golf’s wheels are the worst I’ve seen on a gti golf (or many a performance car for a number of years).

    • @emailofjamesw
      @emailofjamesw 4 роки тому +10

      Am I the only person who thinks those wheels look good? Or am I crazy?

    • @tainechiv
      @tainechiv 4 роки тому +5

      @@emailofjamesw think your a bit crazy but I mean you’re entitled to your opinion

    • @omarhany2876
      @omarhany2876 4 роки тому +2

      I actually love them..

    • @Gazshadows
      @Gazshadows 4 роки тому +7

      I agree they look shit on it.

    • @House__Rice
      @House__Rice 4 роки тому +4

      Don’t worry they look dog shit, they belong on an electric vehicle...

  • @benbartels6909
    @benbartels6909 3 роки тому +30

    Still like the Ford Focus St the most of the 3 🙈

    • @SheepFromDaHell
      @SheepFromDaHell 3 роки тому +8

      and even, its the best sounding and most underestimated car from those hothatches. And, thank god, its not an VAG

    • @vsolonenko
      @vsolonenko 3 роки тому +7

      ... and best handling :)

    • @ENGBriseB
      @ENGBriseB 3 місяці тому

      And it's a manual.

  • @acepilotson3331
    @acepilotson3331 4 роки тому +198

    “The ECU’s are in sync now.”😂😂😂

  • @shreeoam8799
    @shreeoam8799 4 роки тому +75

    No one appreciate the girl who counts for them ❤️

    • @vladimirkraus1438
      @vladimirkraus1438 4 роки тому +4

      Girls can race cars too. If the car has automatic gearbox.... :)

    • @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey
      @FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey 4 роки тому +14

      Simp

    • @burimpetrov7144
      @burimpetrov7144 4 роки тому +2

      we all DO appreciate her

    • @inotoni6148
      @inotoni6148 4 роки тому +1

      @@vladimirkraus1438 That is of course not correct. I recently saw a German video in which a girl in a manual Audi was racing against 3 boys. I think she won

    • @vladimirkraus1438
      @vladimirkraus1438 4 роки тому +3

      @@inotoni6148 What I wrote is called a joke. I am afraid there are no German videos about jokes...

  • @NOAMIDAN99
    @NOAMIDAN99 4 роки тому +99

    I'll go with the vrs, the sexiest FWD for me,well performing,less pricy, amazing boot space and overall space,just a ECU remap and downpipe and that's a perfect hatch.

    • @peterhendry1149
      @peterhendry1149 4 роки тому +6

      It’s a saloon/sedan.
      The Fabia is the Skoda hatch.

    • @DrPepper22222
      @DrPepper22222 4 роки тому +15

      @peter it may be a saloon shape but its a hatchback by definition- the boot hinges at the top of the roof

    • @valchanovgeorgi
      @valchanovgeorgi 4 роки тому +6

      @@peterhendry1149 Plus, it (Octavia) rides on the golf chasis.

    • @peterhendry1149
      @peterhendry1149 4 роки тому +5

      @@DrPepper22222 that’s a very good point

    • @PbThunder
      @PbThunder 4 роки тому +3

      I have the 184 octavia and I love it

  • @pumpingiron3176
    @pumpingiron3176 4 роки тому +33

    Wow Skoda is getting better and better the Octavia just looks the best of these three by far

  • @stoner27th
    @stoner27th 4 роки тому +194

    Mat please make a "So what exactly happened?" T-Shirt.

    • @omarmandooh
      @omarmandooh 4 роки тому +2

      Yeahhhh😂

    • @harshitsharma9805
      @harshitsharma9805 4 роки тому

      You can make for yourself there are some sites

    • @vanesc69
      @vanesc69 4 роки тому +4

      @@쇼츠중독자전용채널 ​ who cares about your life NOONE LOOOOL

    • @OdysseyTag
      @OdysseyTag 4 роки тому

      Yes please!

    • @Redhawky.09
      @Redhawky.09 4 роки тому +3

      @@쇼츠중독자전용채널 stop spamming your self promotion links your worthless..

  • @autonewstv86
    @autonewstv86 4 роки тому +459

    I think the manual focus would do better on the top end than the auto focus

    • @stevemk4st649
      @stevemk4st649 4 роки тому +14

      Automann TV has the real times for all these cars...............Manual ST too, no auto

    • @scrappycoco3687
      @scrappycoco3687 3 роки тому +3

      A shame that they test the manual here. Fail!

    • @pokest225
      @pokest225 3 роки тому +24

      @@scrappycoco3687 Not fail. Even test. All automatic.

    • @pinobrozic1
      @pinobrozic1 3 роки тому +21

      @@pokest225 not even, GTI with DSG is faster then manual. Focus manual faster then auto. + GTI got lunch control, focus has lunch control with manual. So not even test.

    • @pokest225
      @pokest225 3 роки тому +34

      @@pinobrozic1 all automatic. It's not possible to make it more even. Focus is also more powerful.
      The fact is simply that the focus gearbox is bad.

  • @cy9nvs
    @cy9nvs 4 роки тому +221

    I'd love to know how the manual ST would hold up, got a feeling like the awful auto is eating all the torque.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 4 роки тому +11

      Could be, but then you introduce the variable of a person shifting. My guess would be a similar result ('15 FoST owner here).

    • @FatHead1979
      @FatHead1979 4 роки тому +2

      @@ALMX5DP Also, the ST is heavier than the other 2 which really does NOT help when trying to get off the line without launch control!

    • @Tehsheeeep
      @Tehsheeeep 4 роки тому +11

      @@FatHead1979 pretty sure the extra weight on top of the wheels helps it a bit off the line, doesnt help is in the rolling though

    • @FastLifeVlog
      @FastLifeVlog 4 роки тому +8

      The cars should have the same type and level of fuel otherwise is pointless. Breaking distance can be measured with vbox & then would be fair...

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 4 роки тому +7

      @@FastLifeVlog it's entertainment, there are spec sheets if you just want data.

  • @StoLineaR
    @StoLineaR 4 роки тому +7

    19" alloys for the Octavia vs. 18" for the Golf. Not a minor difference I should say. I assume the 19" Xtreme is heavier but even if not, it is difficult to start rolling a 19 incher that a pair of 18" alloys. The Octavia is heavier as well. So there you go. Put some 18" Oz Alleggeritas on the Octavia and the Golf is bye-bye ;)

  • @jeffrey-f
    @jeffrey-f 4 роки тому +56

    Remember the good old days of drag races starting at the beginning of the video

  • @twanspuybroek1749
    @twanspuybroek1749 4 роки тому +40

    Finally a drag race which isnt recorded in June 2019

  • @dance4009
    @dance4009 4 роки тому +251

    "Less power, but actually more power in the real world" LOL

    • @hodzicd.4086
      @hodzicd.4086 4 роки тому +15

      Because of the gearbox probably

    • @DolleHengst
      @DolleHengst 4 роки тому +30

      You can bet that those VAG cars have between 260 and 270 hp.
      They always understate their power figures.

    • @neilmurphy845
      @neilmurphy845 4 роки тому +3

      @@hodzicd.4086 And it weghted more probably

    • @vornamenachname9080
      @vornamenachname9080 4 роки тому +4

      And the Focus st and rs usually dont have their rated power!
      At least all 5 cylinder models are way under their rated values, probably its the same with this model, the gearbox should close the clutch at second or third gear so that there is not much difference

    • @thatfocusguy
      @thatfocusguy 4 роки тому

      It should have, it’s £5k more if you want to to the same spec.

  • @TheMuddatrucker
    @TheMuddatrucker 3 роки тому +17

    Let’s forget the Focus and bring back the escort, imagine a 2021 Escort Cosworth

  • @lukabosnjak3829
    @lukabosnjak3829 4 роки тому +79

    I just love performance and practicality of skoda! 🤑

    • @neovenom9833
      @neovenom9833 4 роки тому +2

      sedans are not practical. Isn't there an RS station wagon?

    • @milanmen00
      @milanmen00 4 роки тому +12

      @@neovenom9833 its not a sedan its a liftback everyone says it every time, its a fricking liftback and it have quite a space in both versions

    • @RadactPotato
      @RadactPotato 4 роки тому +5

      @@neovenom9833 Not a sedan, but a liftback. The trunk and it's opening are huge.

  • @Kamohelomokhati130
    @Kamohelomokhati130 4 роки тому +146

    Looks like theres something wrong with that ST or is it just me?

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 4 роки тому +7

      Ford switched to a torque converter because they had trouble with getrag dct gearboxes.

    • @djd6610
      @djd6610 4 роки тому +17

      Definitely something wrong with it and I think you're right, it's the looks!!

    • @tj_t-bone_26
      @tj_t-bone_26 4 роки тому +47

      They need to test the manual because what's an ST without its manual counterpart

    • @shroomyesc
      @shroomyesc 4 роки тому +6

      Yeah it's got an auto

    • @neovenom9833
      @neovenom9833 4 роки тому +19

      I have seen a manual ST go below 14 seconds. so yeah there is that.

  • @wietsedehaas8961
    @wietsedehaas8961 4 роки тому +151

    Everyone: "Dragking"
    Matt: "Dragkink"

    • @EFerrorfile
      @EFerrorfile 4 роки тому +1

      He pronounces some words weirdly, like that "kink" instead of "king".

    • @joshuathomas512
      @joshuathomas512 4 роки тому +4

      Their merch is pretty ugly tbh

  • @MrShanbla
    @MrShanbla 4 роки тому +92

    Skoda all the way 👌 Guaranteed that's the one you could live with easiest in real life 😂

    • @cerealkiller4248
      @cerealkiller4248 3 роки тому +6

      A few years ago, I was lucky enough to have a new company estate car every 6 months. I had BMW, Audi, Volvo, VW, Vauxhall, Peugeot, Renault and Skoda. The Skoda beat all except the BMW which was a 330d M Sport and a very nice car. I had the Audi ( A4 S-Line ) replace one of my Octavia and I was gutted. As I have 3 young children my daily driver is now a Transporter T6, when they are out of their car seats the Octavia VRS May be my next car, or I may try the Superb as that is supposed to be awesome. You can’t get better than being prepared to put your own money down on a vehicle, I can’t recommend the Skoda enough. ( the first time I attended a site in my first Octavia, a sub contractor who drove an M5 as his company car, took a look and went straight to his local VAG Group and ordered an VRS straight away ).

  • @mpiloz8016
    @mpiloz8016 4 роки тому +265

    I'd love to see dyno runs incorporated into these tests, just to see who's telling the truth about their power figures 🤣

    • @paulp8107
      @paulp8107 4 роки тому +2

      Nooooo... noo

    • @milchpuder
      @milchpuder 4 роки тому +15

      I'm sure I watched a mk8 Gti dyno video last night and it was pretty much the official HP and torque. It could be that the press cars are not running honest ECUs.

    • @MyRealName
      @MyRealName 4 роки тому +19

      @@milchpuder if it put 245 at the wheels, that means it has more at the crank..

    • @davecom3
      @davecom3 4 роки тому +9

      @@milchpuder the ECU could be programmed far more aggressively if launch mode or something similar is engaged. Then if the car is put on dyno the ECU could be programmed to enable GPS, so it knows the car is accelerating when stationary = official power figures.

    • @batman291
      @batman291 4 роки тому +2

      @H FG The Fiesta ST dosent.

  • @car-spot-one8271
    @car-spot-one8271 4 роки тому +52

    0:45 it is a pity that they no longer make the Ford Focus RS because of all those environmental measures

    • @Turtleback8024
      @Turtleback8024 4 роки тому

      Huh? They no longer make the Ford Focus RS?😳What’s their answer to the Golf R then?

    • @niklaskniest4968
      @niklaskniest4968 4 роки тому +1

      @@Turtleback8024 none

  • @mafazrahman1900
    @mafazrahman1900 4 роки тому +16

    Octavia is the prettiest looking too

  • @Vodny
    @Vodny 3 роки тому +77

    Mat, your Škoda pronunciation, is perfect. I know it, cause I'm Czech. Surprised that Focus is the heaviest of them all and that it performed so bad. I expected Focus to beat the Golf at least in some of the scenarious. Kudos to Škoda, big, practical and pretty fast car. Ideal for most people, including families.

    • @magictoast1331
      @magictoast1331 Рік тому +1

      Skoda is VW Audi is what is CZECH IN CAR IS NAME Skoda ;)

    • @facesart
      @facesart Рік тому +3

      @@magictoast1331 no, most of their engines are developed in CZ so …

    • @kurejoe854
      @kurejoe854 10 місяців тому

      dude..even LAMBORGHINI and porsche IS VW group xdd so what did you cry about ? xd dude dont know nothing about cars and talking..

    • @davidvelek9607
      @davidvelek9607 8 місяців тому

      ​@@magictoast1331 it Is not the same

    • @akobulettivv9306
      @akobulettivv9306 6 місяців тому

      ​@@magictoast1331Не WV Audi,a WV AG...

  • @jameswingrove7421
    @jameswingrove7421 4 роки тому +35

    Would be interesting to see how a manual ST fares in the same test. And use the automatic ST in the same test.

    • @harrysamwel3665
      @harrysamwel3665 10 місяців тому

      The manual would certainly loose. What’s strange though is the australian video mag where they tested the automatic and manual they for the best run got a 13.9s. So why is it so slow here?
      They did however say you had to ”soft” press the throttle at start to have less wheel spin and get best speed. Either way, they got several low 14.xs runs before the 13.9s.
      I would guess this result has to do with gear box tuning. The Focus seems pretty fast in the first three gears, then gears become too long and it looses to the VAG cars.
      It only has 6 gears available in Sport/Track mode seventh is disabled btw.

  • @richardbeck818
    @richardbeck818 4 роки тому +11

    The Skoda could be a perfect sleeper if you got it tuned as it's capable in stock sharing the GTI platform but with a tune not many people would expect it too be so quick

  • @mikhaelpanju6704
    @mikhaelpanju6704 4 роки тому +57

    When is the bugatti Chiron getting drag raced mat??!!

  • @hexidecml
    @hexidecml 4 роки тому +28

    Matt's German impressions are amazing... Favorite is still him saying how the Porsche turbo will crush them

  • @autobahnpov9207
    @autobahnpov9207 4 роки тому +70

    sad what happened to the sound of "sports Cars“

    • @GerardPedrico
      @GerardPedrico 4 роки тому +5

      Ford Focus RS has more appealing curves but the VW Golf GTI has awesome looking interior.
      The Skoda Octavia looks regal and has the business man like kind of impression.

    • @tessie4204
      @tessie4204 4 роки тому +3

      @@GerardPedrico to bad that they dont make a Focus RS on this generation.

    • @GerardPedrico
      @GerardPedrico 4 роки тому

      Impression...
      German speed metal music band won over the American speed metal music band.
      The Scorpions took over the crown from Metallica.
      Skoda is like a Nu metal music band coming up from behind...

    • @boppzoli
      @boppzoli 4 роки тому

      @@GerardPedrico it is an ST not RS 😉

    • @carwow
      @carwow  4 роки тому +3

      😓

  • @IronDrummer91
    @IronDrummer91 4 роки тому +67

    The fact the focus lost to the GTI, when there’s a golf R that’s even faster, shows how bad a move it was for Ford to not do an RS this generation

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 4 роки тому +10

      I lament the loss of the RS too, but may just make financial sense in this era of electrification. Ford may have put all that money into the Mustang Mach E development (which seems to be the only true Tesla Model 3/Y competitor currently).

    • @Mattyzetec1
      @Mattyzetec1 2 роки тому +1

      An mk3 RS would still beat a new golf r though.

    • @robb5828
      @robb5828 2 роки тому +1

      @@Mattyzetec1 nope ,the RS is quite old,does 13.5 seconds 1/4 while the GOLF R best it did was 12.3,does 12.5 mostly

    • @ArchiveXDD
      @ArchiveXDD 2 роки тому

      @@robb5828 because the RS it's a manual

  • @warrior8154
    @warrior8154 4 роки тому +44

    5 million special
    You vs Yianni running.
    Please make it happen, everyone is asking for it!

  • @michaln5540
    @michaln5540 3 роки тому +17

    I had 4 Vrs Octavias... If I won the lotto, I would have a full lineup of them ❤️👍

    • @johnlyons1394
      @johnlyons1394 3 роки тому

      What one is best?mk1 mk2 or mk3

    • @leexxhvh
      @leexxhvh 3 роки тому +1

      @@johnlyons1394 i won a mk2 and it's just great! but i do recommend the mk3.

  • @dnzry2218
    @dnzry2218 4 роки тому +21

    Front of the Golf looks so weird man, can't get used to it

    • @isimon.
      @isimon. 4 роки тому

      The sideprofil also looks very boring compared to the Golf 7... Doors are very flat, not exciting...

    • @omarmandooh
      @omarmandooh 4 роки тому

      Makes me remember someone... 💙🤍🖤

    • @crazytarga1195
      @crazytarga1195 4 роки тому

      The interior is worse imo

  • @johncarruthers4647
    @johncarruthers4647 4 роки тому +33

    I would have the vrs in the estate. Would love to see a octavia vrs ony drag race from mk1 to mk4

  • @rider5402
    @rider5402 4 роки тому +11

    The Škoda Octavia surprised very nicely. It's a very good car.👌

  • @DarudeSandstormVEVO
    @DarudeSandstormVEVO 22 дні тому

    Driving Skoda (RS) for 20 years now being the PHEV RS as the current one and these cars just have the best value for money.
    Every once in a while when someone pops in as a passenger you can see their face like: ow shit, this is unexpected.
    Need to move a full BBQ set including chairs and a table for a family party? - No problem, that booth can fit up to 4 naked women.
    Heavy rain/melting snow on wet roads in the dark with no street lights? - High Beam LED lighting, Adaptive cruise control, lane assist and collision alert have your back.
    Picking up a hiker? "wow glad I got picked up by an Audi RS..." - Nope,... it's a Skoda.

  • @Sinasi08
    @Sinasi08 4 роки тому +16

    Impressed with the Skoda 👍

  • @Dentwido
    @Dentwido 4 роки тому +23

    i'm a ford guy but that octavia looks really good

  • @mcmormus
    @mcmormus 4 роки тому +19

    I would love to see these cars on the dyno! Feels strange that the two 245hp beat the 280hp....
    Only explanation is the poorer efficiency of the torque converter (?)

  • @Rits2001
    @Rits2001 3 роки тому +14

    I do really like skoda ..it's sporty and so much more practical than any of its rival.

    • @florianfei1093
      @florianfei1093 3 роки тому +1

      What's pracrical about it?

    • @bremCZ
      @bremCZ 3 роки тому +1

      @@florianfei1093 Everything, the question is, what's more practical about it?

    • @florianfei1093
      @florianfei1093 3 роки тому +1

      @@bremCZ nothing.

    • @bremCZ
      @bremCZ 3 роки тому +1

      @@florianfei1093 That's entirely subjective. To many, the greater boot size is far more practical, for others it's less practical.

    • @florianfei1093
      @florianfei1093 3 роки тому

      @@bremCZ your answer is entirely subjective. I reckon, you are driving a Skoda?

  • @CarTechConnect
    @CarTechConnect 4 роки тому +26

    I love how VAG tends to underrate their HP claims. It's like a bonus gift after purchasing :D

    • @MeltingRubberZ28
      @MeltingRubberZ28 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah when I was looking at what car to buy the VW didn't really seem like a good purchase since it seemed so low on HP... then when you'd see real world data they were easily equal with their rivals, and even better is that with a tune only you get another 100hp.
      You can probably tell, I bought the VW.

    • @Zebpro
      @Zebpro 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah, just like their emissions! :)

    • @CarTechConnect
      @CarTechConnect 4 роки тому

      @@Zebpro lmao savage. 😅

    • @AutomoBoy
      @AutomoBoy 4 роки тому +1

      Its not all about hp its about weight too .the st is heavier than both of them .that may be the reason for its slow acceleration .

    • @CarTechConnect
      @CarTechConnect 4 роки тому +1

      @@AutomoBoy yes agree!

  • @andrewmontague9682
    @andrewmontague9682 4 роки тому +9

    8:12 - "I lost so I'm going to make up a test to see if I can win again!"
    Classic Matt. 😝

  • @Bonneville690
    @Bonneville690 4 роки тому +14

    We want to drag race that include all generations of octavia rs (this gen, mk3 tsi, mk2 tfsi and mk1 1.8t)

    • @brianr9529
      @brianr9529 3 роки тому +1

      Tdi versions aswell

    • @1992marcb
      @1992marcb 3 роки тому

      Id get behind that thats a video i would love to see.

  •  3 роки тому

    As an everyday driver I have used Skoda Octavia Combi vRS diesel (180hp, 380 Nm). 6 years old, cc. 420.000 km in it. Today was 5.4 liter/100km in mixed road, from 50 km/h to 180km/h. It has had no problem, literraly nothing from the first day till now. I DO not care, what happen in 1/4 mile, in 14.xx second. I use it. That’s all. It would be my next choice. (I change car every 10 years, not every 1-2y. I need minimum 2 years to FEEL every reaction of my car. It is not about money. And yes, every vRS mate say hello with light horn to me, and we are very polite to each other.) I think, 150-250 hp should be enough for everyday driver. Sure, you can buy faster, stonger, much, more expensive fancy cars, but red light stops you every corner.

  • @waleed172
    @waleed172 4 роки тому +38

    I cant describe the happiness when I see the Carwow logo in my notifications. I just click faster than yiannis reaction time!!!

  • @vardanv2310
    @vardanv2310 4 роки тому +17

    3:05 Mat said VW group is known for soft limiters ( Lamborghini, Bugatti, Bentley crying in the corner)

    • @Nathan.150
      @Nathan.150 4 роки тому +5

      Normal attainable cars

    • @kevinjohnson1246
      @kevinjohnson1246 4 роки тому

      They all have soft limiters

    • @vardanv2310
      @vardanv2310 4 роки тому +1

      @@kevinjohnson1246 U mad. A Lambo does not have soft limiters

    • @kevinjohnson1246
      @kevinjohnson1246 4 роки тому

      @@vardanv2310 new ones have a soft limiter

    • @sturness
      @sturness 4 роки тому +1

      @@kevinjohnson1246 no they dont

  • @JMNTN
    @JMNTN 4 роки тому +10

    The ford focus has underrated looks tbh, to me it’s the best looking hatchback right now

    • @Demetriov1990
      @Demetriov1990 4 роки тому

      STRONGLY DISAGREE

    • @carwow
      @carwow  4 роки тому +1

      Anyone agreeing with this? 😳

    • @SokanSAN
      @SokanSAN 4 роки тому

      @@carwow Definitely the best looking, especially in this comparison against the new 'yuck' Golf 8 and without a doubt better than the strange looking Skoda

    • @mtham4171
      @mtham4171 4 роки тому

      I agree

    • @youraveragejoe1
      @youraveragejoe1 4 роки тому

      I mean it is a good looking car, the interior quality lets it down a lot for me, and the performance of the automatics. Good looking car though tbh

  • @Pro_Blunder
    @Pro_Blunder Рік тому +1

    I’d like to see how the GTI stacks up agains the Manual ST.

  • @drmonstervibes
    @drmonstervibes 4 роки тому +14

    Ford CEO to Ford mechanic: "so how much hp does this engine produce?" Mechanic: "ah.. erm.. ehhh" CEO: "ok, let's say 280, it sounds good"

    • @bobbydyk9089
      @bobbydyk9089 4 роки тому +9

      Eh i think its just the gearbox. If they all were manual the Ford would likely win.

    • @Mgoblagulkablong
      @Mgoblagulkablong 4 роки тому +5

      tuned VW testcar, customer cars will be slower, cheating like always, disgusting company

    • @tperformance86
      @tperformance86 4 роки тому

      @@Mgoblagulkablong in your Dreams

    • @andreip5489
      @andreip5489 4 роки тому +1

      @@bobbydyk9089 Nope, see the rolling race locked in 3rd. The GTI pulls ahead right from the start, definitely more power.

    • @andreip5489
      @andreip5489 4 роки тому

      @@Mgoblagulkablong My thoughts exactly.

  • @keyner111
    @keyner111 4 роки тому +10

    I'd take the Skoda
    👁️👄👁️

  • @kaiyurnaidoo2814
    @kaiyurnaidoo2814 4 роки тому +8

    The ST would probably be faster around a track and more fun to drive as a manual

    • @villepekkala
      @villepekkala Рік тому

      Well gti and vrs is available with manual

  • @dham99
    @dham99 3 роки тому +1

    the fact that Ford offered an auto for the ST line is silly...in the US, our ST's had no auto option which is great. That auto trans is killing the Fords power up top. I cant imagine my 2016 ST with an auto..yuck.

  • @adifferentmovie.3905
    @adifferentmovie.3905 4 роки тому +15

    ”Drag kings are mostly female performance artists who dress in masculine drag and personify male gender stereotypes as part of an individual or group routine. A typical drag show may incorporate dancing, acting, stand-up comedy and singing, either live or lip-synching to pre-recorded tracks” 😂

    • @cetinagar
      @cetinagar 3 роки тому

      Those are drag QUEENS….

    • @SimplyReg
      @SimplyReg 3 роки тому

      @@cetinagar I think you missed the gag, here.

  • @greysonprince4827
    @greysonprince4827 4 роки тому +5

    One of the hardest decisions to make... I love me a Golf and I love me a Focus.. but I think I'd have to take the Focus just for the raw horsepower and torque advantage.. because how often are you gonna be using launch control in the real world🤣

  • @smido1284
    @smido1284 4 роки тому +42

    “Oh yeah the ECUs are in sync now” 😂

  • @arunbissoon4630
    @arunbissoon4630 3 роки тому +2

    Cutting the weight of the skoda will help a lot with the overall power output.

  • @jaydinmanuel8408
    @jaydinmanuel8408 4 роки тому +16

    Matt:I'm the drag king.
    His mum:we'll see about that😂😂

  • @AverageJane222
    @AverageJane222 4 роки тому +22

    Really disappointed by the performance of the Ford: 280 horses ; my arse.

    • @robb5828
      @robb5828 3 роки тому +1

      It does have 280,but the wizardry Porsche is doing with these golfs is that their gear ratio is unbeatable, the car stays at peak power on all the shifting rev range. Also VW says that cat has 245hp,but we know VW understates the figures, might have 260+

  • @BRS.F1
    @BRS.F1 4 роки тому +34

    I would have the ST for the awesome design and sound 😃

    • @patricksca1679
      @patricksca1679 3 роки тому +1

      I own one, but i feel i choose the wrong one between the st a yaris gr01 an the n30 😅

    • @TheRandomActivity
      @TheRandomActivity 3 роки тому +1

      And get a garbage transmission as many fords are known for

    • @Hankblue
      @Hankblue 2 роки тому

      @@TheRandomActivity You get a manual transmission like a real man

  • @Hugo_Valença
    @Hugo_Valença 4 роки тому +8

    Do a drag with the “old” mp4-12c and some new supercars

  • @allergictowoke
    @allergictowoke 4 роки тому +16

    Skoda once again setting the bench mark, best value car in its class

  • @aleksgrin6413
    @aleksgrin6413 4 роки тому +6

    One more drag please!!!
    GTI vs 128ti!!!
    Battle of the year!!!

  • @advaitsagavekar7647
    @advaitsagavekar7647 4 роки тому +76

    Matt always drives the fastest cars in the race and call himself a “dragking” 😂

  • @RJYOUNG396
    @RJYOUNG396 3 роки тому +4

    "I'm in a race, I have eco, comfort and SPORT, I'll just use comfort"

  • @eriks.
    @eriks. 4 роки тому +12

    Ford 280HP
    VW 245HP
    Vw wins😂😂

    • @noapnolio5702
      @noapnolio5702 4 роки тому

      Because Ford has only Michelin Tires🙄

  • @Ettzil
    @Ettzil 4 роки тому +22

    The ford looks the best though.

    • @pershooo
      @pershooo 4 роки тому

      The Octavia looks the best

  • @HH-uv4iw
    @HH-uv4iw 4 роки тому +6

    What's the point in making a 2.3 when it will just get smoked by slower 2 litre cars

    • @2cars10
      @2cars10 4 роки тому +1

      Different power band. Notice how the ford was always quick off the jump. That's because it makes more power down low but the vw 2.0 clearly has a better top end power

    • @HH-uv4iw
      @HH-uv4iw 3 роки тому +2

      @@2cars10 i was talking about displacement not power bands

  • @brettp5980
    @brettp5980 3 роки тому +1

    VW has been underrating their house figures since the MK4 Gens, clearly they make way more power than advertised
    Plus it pulls way harder up top than the focus, because turbo is bigger, just defined from the factory

  • @perfectlybalanced8995
    @perfectlybalanced8995 4 роки тому +23

    Happy the GTI won because I know that’s the only one we’re going to get in the US

    • @PlueschoB21F
      @PlueschoB21F 4 роки тому +1

      You dont get the Ford?

    • @miekamariehodson1731
      @miekamariehodson1731 3 роки тому +2

      @@PlueschoB21F Ford stopped making sedans and hatchbacks for the United States

    • @PlueschoB21F
      @PlueschoB21F 3 роки тому +4

      @@miekamariehodson1731 Thats sad

  • @bingedrnker.
    @bingedrnker. 4 роки тому +4

    I've had a VRS and I've got to say possibly the best car I've owned excellent cars, people just associate the name with the days of old

  • @WaseemKhan-iu4bh
    @WaseemKhan-iu4bh 4 роки тому +13

    VAG engines always punching above it's weight...Who would take an ST over a GTI anyways?

    • @xIcarus227
      @xIcarus227 4 роки тому +5

      Anyone who wants a fun to drive car. It's also much cheaper, contrary to the price Mat shows on the screen.

    • @MATTFL380
      @MATTFL380 4 роки тому +3

      Fords are shit. My 2017 st focus was a bag of wank. Thankfully now I drive a seat Leon Cupra R and it is everything the Ford was only built better and nicer to drive.

    • @thatfocusguy
      @thatfocusguy 4 роки тому +1

      People who don’t want to waste money - my ST - £27k a Golf GTI to the same spec - £37k.

    • @WaseemKhan-iu4bh
      @WaseemKhan-iu4bh 4 роки тому +1

      @@thatfocusguy fair enough...i said that based on the assumption that they were the same price according to this video

    • @xIcarus227
      @xIcarus227 4 роки тому +1

      @@WaseemKhan-iu4bh well if you look at their list prices they really are about what Mat quoted. But Ford's list prices are bullshit, you always get offers for moderately less than list.
      We expect decent car journalists to know and mention this, but Mat doesn't give a shit.

  • @ryankeech9303
    @ryankeech9303 3 роки тому +3

    ST would be better in manual for sure and I think it's the better looking car out the 3

  • @P.daniele
    @P.daniele 4 роки тому +18

    Finally relatively affordable sports cars

  • @christianzacapa4046
    @christianzacapa4046 4 роки тому +4

    4:00 for actual drag race

  • @ManifestYourself
    @ManifestYourself 4 роки тому +173

    Can you guys get ahold of a explorer ST there?

    • @kzed
      @kzed 4 роки тому +9

      No we can’t, i’d love one though. i think there epic.

    • @ManifestYourself
      @ManifestYourself 4 роки тому +4

      @Kristof Alexy I think countries outside of u.s get the cooler fords, but that's just me lol

    • @ManifestYourself
      @ManifestYourself 4 роки тому +1

      @@kzed Yeah i'd like to see them run that :D

    • @ManifestYourself
      @ManifestYourself 4 роки тому +1

      ​@Kristof Alexy That was actually going to be my example of the cool cars lol! love that thing! Bit pricey tho lol

    • @jackpez
      @jackpez 4 роки тому

      It’d be cool if they tested the 300hp Ford Flex lol

  • @steveb3944
    @steveb3944 3 роки тому +11

    Focus ST for me - by far. The best looking car there by a long long way.

    • @mickniesi743
      @mickniesi743 3 роки тому +2

      Yea same

    • @ti8864
      @ti8864 2 роки тому

      Focus is one of the ugliest cars ever built

    • @steveb3944
      @steveb3944 2 роки тому

      @@ti8864 haha yeah sure it is. 🤣

    • @ti8864
      @ti8864 2 роки тому

      @@steveb3944 which hot hatch is more ugly? Maybe the Civic

    • @steveb3944
      @steveb3944 2 роки тому

      @@ti8864 you said ‘Cars’ not ‘Hot hatch’. There are so many uglier cars. For HH Civic, yes, all Astras are ugly to me.