Radio morse code in the merchant navy

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  • @fransvanhelvoort1083
    @fransvanhelvoort1083 3 роки тому +23

    Great. As an old wireless operator from the 60-70's, this is music to my ears. Good old times never die!

  • @eogg25
    @eogg25 11 років тому +36

    I am an ex army CW radio operator and still use a straight key. I can understand what the operator is going thrue, I can remember operating for hours using headphones without a break in the back of a truck, after I was relieved, I could still hear cw for the rest of the night. one time a truck dragging a chain went buy and it sounded like morse code, 50 years + and a ham, I still use CW and the ringing in my ears never stops. not complaining, i'm used to it now.

  • @MatsyaAvatar
    @MatsyaAvatar 12 років тому +15

    73 from a Polish R/O since 1981 through 1998. Good old days are gone forever.

  • @RonaldrealViking
    @RonaldrealViking 10 років тому +7

    Very fb video Ioannis! I am a hamradioöperator and use a lot of CW, because it is a great way to communicate! On 4 and 10 April 1999 radioamateurs got the opportunity to make a 2 way QSO with SVA. We send on our own hambands on a given frequency and SVA came back on there own frequency. I was using a shortwavereceiver for this occasion. This QSO's are confirmed with a QSL-card from SVA. I am happy I worked this station! By the way, my best DX I made not with SSB, but with CW. Not with a computer, but a straight key! Best 73's from Holland de Ron PA3GBY

  • @colinwatson2569
    @colinwatson2569 11 років тому +4

    Ioannis,thank you for the memories.I worked for two Greek companies,one with Greek flag and other under Liberian flag.I found SVA to be pretty good,but hated the Chronia Polla times with qry of 30.Waiting for r/t hf calls for such a long time that the propogation changed and lost contact!!I have very fond memories of my time with the Greeks that I had the pleasure of sailing with.Took a while to realise that CPF was chronia polla filia!!!!!
    73s .Cheers,colin

    • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
      @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  11 років тому

      Thanks Colin. It is memory lane stuff.. XP (XRONIA POLLA) PF (POLLA FILIA) and another one. KG (KALES GIORTES) (happy holidays) It was a nightmare at times during the holidays. I worked a lot the Pacific and we had very good QSP channels among the Greek R/ops for cw traffic with SVA. It was a nightmare at times bec Greek crew demanding cheap r/t calls all the time via SVA. But I had a wonderful time! What a great job it was!

  • @FIVEMIKEROMEOHOTEL
    @FIVEMIKEROMEOHOTEL 14 років тому +8

    The Greek operators were usually pretty good. They liked 'bug' and electronic keys.
    SVA was so busy especially Christmas and Easter when all the crew would send Greetings telegrams to their families. There were about 4000 Greek ships back in those days, you could wait hours in a queue and then lose contact as the frequency faded out and have to start all over again on another frequency!

    • @ahmadjamil1593
      @ahmadjamil1593 2 роки тому

      That,s true. You have to catch up with their speed.

  • @kingcw
    @kingcw 12 років тому +10

    Good to hear "real" CW again. I spent 30 years at sea and loved it. What a pity GMDSS saw the end of a very professional bunch of people. Now radio amateurs, well some of them, send morse by typing onto a keyboard and receiving morse via a receiver into a computer. Sad, very sad.

    • @slartybardfarst52
      @slartybardfarst52 7 років тому +2

      kingcw agreed, I'm a ham and use videos like this as training pieces, I only work by ear and expect the same in return, using a computer either end is pointless.

    • @G0IMB
      @G0IMB 6 років тому +2

      I send on a paddle or straight key and copy by ear. To me it's like listening to someone talk.

    • @qmsarge
      @qmsarge 2 роки тому +1

      Well , not all. I am an amateur radio operator still using ears to listen and a straight key to send. And struggling at 15 wpm 🙂. All said and done I don't think this skill is now really a must to have one. Times have changed.. 😔😐

  • @a.latifkhimani5388
    @a.latifkhimani5388 6 років тому +3

    Now i am 65 yrs. When i Saw this, i felt young as i. Was R.O at ship.

  • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
    @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  13 років тому +9

    @Rich8951 In practise this was impossible when crossing the PACIFIC to QSO SVA but the Greek operators created relay stations to help each other. It was unbelievable how many times I crossed the Pacific getting all my SVA traffic relayed to me like this. I am proud I played a part in all this myself.
    They were first of all nice, polite and good people, good professionals.
    If you RICH8951 consider yourself one of them, accept that your comment was TERRIBLE!!

    • @ahmadjamil1593
      @ahmadjamil1593 2 роки тому

      Bravo filamoun

    • @RicktheRecorder
      @RicktheRecorder 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, I had forgotten how Greek shipowners refused to pay for MSG through coast radio stations and their suffering radio operators were forced to hitch-hike (QSP) their messages back to SVA (Athens) though helpful colleagues on other ships.

  • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
    @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  8 років тому +1

    Yrath, very sharp eye! I still have the organiser psion2, use it mostly as calculator now ...It was a present from wifie in the eighties.

  • @muhammadiqbal8271
    @muhammadiqbal8271 Рік тому

    I passed PMG-2 (Radio Operator second class) in 1997. But unfortunately that was ending time of Radio Operator on-board. But luckily I got a job in an oil and gas search company. Thanks God.

  • @amareshnayak6662
    @amareshnayak6662 3 роки тому +1

    I am also a wireless operator, love morse . Can read 30-40 speed

  • @ahmadjamil1593
    @ahmadjamil1593 2 роки тому

    R/O from 1976 - 1999. worked for Karlog and Andriaki and Cominos and others. Memories never die.

    • @johnbspringer
      @johnbspringer 6 місяців тому

      How many weeks was your more code training?

  • @battlestarone
    @battlestarone 8 років тому +2

    my father was a radio officer i the merchent navy for 35yrs..35 wpm was the norm..but when you passed your exans you had to be able to do 28wpm..but morse wa sent in phraces like short hand..infact he learned that to.he is.retired no intrest in radio..i am a ham..and now and then he will have a tune around on hf cw..82yrs old 25wpm no bother at all for him...he misses the job a lot.

  • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
    @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  12 років тому +2

    Hi 4nro. Thanks, It was odd! I interrupted the Sva transmission of the QTC to me because I was HANDY CARRIER/9HJV2, not PAVLINA. He told me to wait for a bit. Then the operator came back after a long talk to his supervisor... and (in Greek) to make double sure wasnt for me, he gave me some more details about the qtc and I told him it was not for my captain after all. It was a private message not from the shipping co. s Perhaps the sender gave the wrong c/s. That explained I hope.

  • @ta1ev
    @ta1ev Рік тому

    I was allready worked on same device system between 1990 -1992

  • @janvisser2223
    @janvisser2223 Рік тому

    Man, was I happy to have my engineers cabin always one deck lower😜😜

  • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
    @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  13 років тому

    Rich8951 Everybody has his own way of sending and this is the beauty of CW. The SVA people had the heaviest traffic globally and the equipment they had at their disposal were unadequote. Only because they were professional and very good operators, done their job very good indeed.

  • @vag.spithakis5032
    @vag.spithakis5032 5 років тому +2

    με δακρυα στα ματια σε χαιρετω συναδελφε. Οπου και να εισαι οτι και αν κανεις καλη σου τυχη

  • @martinleung212
    @martinleung212 2 роки тому

    I worked on a Greek ship in early 1975, had to receive a msg from Athens Radio after leaving Japan because the Second Engineer was about a have a new born baby. I was in the tfc list but just couldn't raise Athens Radio. Tried for 10 consecutive nights but no luck. Eventually when the ship was near Singapore, I called on 500 kHz to seek help from any Greek ship in the vicinity. One offered to call up the coast station for me but he didn't help me to receive the message which was of course in the Greek language. Boy, being not a Greek myself, getting that message was a nightmare. Eventually I got enough to the Second Engineer that he knew his wife and baby were both ok. Have to say the radio equipment on that ship were virtually obsolete and shouldn't be allowed to pass for license renewal.

    • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
      @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  2 роки тому

      Hi Martin. Japan to Singapore was almost impossible to qso SVA. I had an 1200watt transmitter but even getting from SVB a QRY10 the signal would fade before my turn come up. It was very busy station SVA. Leaving from Japan to USA was possible QSO on 22mhz mostly. By the Aleutian Islands I remember SVA was deafening on 22mhz. In general Greek R/0perators in the pacific will use KPH/KFS (San Francisco radio) for company traffic. Any SVA traffic was received via QSP establishing QRX with Other Greek vessels in the Indian Ocean willing to relay QTC. Hard work but the camaraderie was remarkable in the profession.

  • @GuyAwoke
    @GuyAwoke 15 років тому

    Nice video which brings back memories. I did this job from 1991-1996.

  • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
    @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  13 років тому

    @Rich8951 Some of R/op they would take the piss some times, or let you boil for a while before take your QTC but who are you to criticise them? They had a pile of traffic in front of them to get rid off, and some times they had to let go, or refuse people who were holding the traffic back.
    I worked with SVA for about 15 years on Greek ships. We were obliged to contact mostly SVA to keep the costs down, not only in CW, but in R/Telephony too for the crew members.

  • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
    @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  13 років тому

    @Rich8951(If you had a QTC that had to go out, and SVA was out of range, did you just sit on it). It was up to us what station to use. If it was something urgent it will go through KPH/KFS , routing traffic via SVA. We had our (every 2 hours) Greek R/ops QRX channels using R/T in every Ocean. R/Ops in Indian ports (sitting in anchor having nothing else to do) will QSP all traffic to/from SVA for ships in the Pacific which asked for QSP. It was pure camaraderie. Made many friends like this

  • @m.9243
    @m.9243 4 роки тому +4

    Good Grief!!
    How many words per minute is this transmission?
    Too bloody fast for me brother! Tnx for the great video.
    73's from a VK2xxxx

    • @b3j8
      @b3j8 4 роки тому +2

      Rockin along close to 30 per minute! Christ I can't even SEND that fast let alone copy it! LOL

  • @nw7us
    @nw7us 14 років тому +1

    Wow - this is fascinating. I have great respect for all radio operators in the maritime services! 73 de NW7US dit dit

  • @b3j8
    @b3j8 6 років тому +1

    Phew! Managed to copy bits here and there. Waay too fast for me! 😀

  • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
    @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  13 років тому

    @Rich8951 (If you had a QTC that had to go out, and SVA was out of range, did you just sit on it) In the 80's I was working the Pacific a lot with Bulk carries. Loading fishmeals and minerals from Chile/Peru going via L.A for Bunkers, to Japan/China/Korea. Prince Rupert was the northest point and Maggelan straits the southest I been. In the traffic of KPH/KFS were only a few Greek ships listed always, while in the Ocean hundreds were sailing. It was because we QSP to SVA. Hated the Aleutians

  • @ve3enx95
    @ve3enx95 4 роки тому

    1:22 How many wpm is that? Is that being sent with a manual key, sounds like? Not a bug or electronic paddle?

    • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
      @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  4 роки тому

      120 wpm approx sent by double electr paddle.

    • @ve3enx95
      @ve3enx95 4 роки тому

      @@IOANNISKARAPAVLOS Do you mean 120 characters per minute? (= about 24 words per minute)?

    • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
      @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  4 роки тому +2

      VE3ENX yes my friend, characters I meant. 😊

    • @ve3enx95
      @ve3enx95 4 роки тому

      @@IOANNISKARAPAVLOS Pretty impressive. Faster than I can read, or even send, for that matter!

  • @jamilsouzagodoisouzagodoy1099
    @jamilsouzagodoisouzagodoy1099 4 місяці тому +1

    Isso para mim é grego... Não trm tradução!!

  • @Hoopaball
    @Hoopaball Рік тому

    So long sparky.

  • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
    @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  13 років тому +1

    At sea you had to get the qtc's because nobody else will fetch them for you.So everyone used to the "shit" from 9VG/WCC/KPH/KFS/ or WLO were you been working once, and from many others. Receiving from a tape it was the worst felling though. But the worst was the arrogance of some like your type, with big EGOS, who could not be bothered to listen someone who could not send to your satisfaction. WCC using semis broke every rule but I loved the long dashes in the Ls and Ks, they were fantastic.

  • @vk2ir1
    @vk2ir1 10 років тому +1

    bravo Ioannis de sv0xbf / vk2ir Tommy

  • @GuyAwoke
    @GuyAwoke 13 років тому

    @Rich8951 I hate having to reply to such an aggressive post to justify a comment I made ages ago but I was on various British, Dutch and Italian vessels. 6 In total, 2 had inmarsat terminals and none had rtty. We made worldwide trips and of the non satcom vessels most traffic was MF and HF CW. Average traffic was maybe 4-5 outgoing and incoming cables a day and 4 weather OBS messages, so i guess that's something in the thousands. I used well adjusted straight keys and took pride in what I did.

  • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
    @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  13 років тому +1

    @Rich8951(You should see the comments on the private Radio Officer Internet list. It's made up of over 500 former Radio Officers.) I am so proud I got their attention! You just barking at the wrong tree! I signed on, (20 years old) with a super tanker M/T St. Anthony/J4AA cable:papas N.Y It was my second job at sea. I went around the globe from Phila in Delaware, to Rastanura/Gulf loading, then via Spore/Honolulu to Anacortes Wa. CW was a means to an end, let it R.I.P. OM and get on with life.

  • @mkrump9403
    @mkrump9403 9 років тому

    How long it took an average radio operator to be efficient with this code..
    I know letters, numbers codes but my ears can not follow it after 2 months of spare time pratice.

    • @GuyAwoke
      @GuyAwoke 9 років тому +3

      +M krump I was a Radio Officer. It took me a year or 2 after training to get really comfortable and relaxed at it then a few years more to get the really high speeds like 40 wpm plus but with intensive training someone could send and receive high speeds after a few months. Google the Koch method of morse training, it's proven to be the most efficient way to learn.

    • @mkrump9403
      @mkrump9403 9 років тому +2

      I'm grateful and thank you for the App Koch is just giving me the level up that I need now.

    • @mkrump9403
      @mkrump9403 9 років тому +1

      ***** Just try 25 wpm... It's very fast... Even knowing all letters, numbers and special signs... You won't follow the beat even at 8 wpm If you are not ready. If you are good at it well you may have good ears first or a lot of personal training. 40 wpm... It's like yes achieving it after many years doing it 40 hours by weeks. ((You won't run 42km if you are not ready for...))
      Use your Appliccation: Koch, download on App Iphone...
      Everything is in his answer.
      And by the way what you mean by CW*?

    • @mkrump9403
      @mkrump9403 9 років тому

      itunes.apple.com/ca/app/koch-trainer/id405137883?mt=8 This the Koch
      itunes.apple.com/us/app/morse-toad/id906586079?mt=8 It's the best to learn code quickly
      The only thing is missing: is the machine straight key, one that can be connected by wire or bluetooth to iphone for sending code (exercise).
      It's whole world of language.

    • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
      @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  9 років тому

      +Scottosphere I agree this app (morse it) it's fantastic!

  • @danielbaumbach5044
    @danielbaumbach5044 Рік тому

    💙💚💙💚🧡🧡💚💙💜

  • @yrath5034
    @yrath5034 8 років тому +1

    I can see an original Psion Organiser just in front of you, was that your own or was it part of the radio room?
    73

  • @YURIY7373
    @YURIY7373 13 років тому +2

    very good 73! de RA6AMF

  • @zoolkhan
    @zoolkhan 12 років тому

    the room echo makes it hearder to read. but the speed is perfectly ok.
    This is around 20 WPM i would guess.

  • @pt100
    @pt100 7 місяців тому

    JRC console built at end 70', the NRD-71 receiver was the best I ever used, doesn't need to listen on this big volume...

  • @cottersay
    @cottersay 8 років тому

    Wayyy too fast for me. Obviously using a bug or paddles. Sounds like at least 35WPM...

  • @BlakeGibbons
    @BlakeGibbons 5 років тому

    It's just crazy, to me, that people can understand this.

    • @MrHenry1876
      @MrHenry1876 5 років тому +1

      CW it's easy like riding a bicycle! Start slowly and you will learn more then you can imagine.

  • @zoolkhan
    @zoolkhan 12 років тому

    no theyre not, i am listening for you around 14055 khz and 3555 khz in
    QRS CW. Lead by example, put the computer away and learn walking again.

  • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
    @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  13 років тому

    @Richard8951 (You put it up as an example of "good" operating, which means you don't know what good operating is!) This video is a typical, ship to shore, QSO in CW with SVA, nothing else. It brings back GOOD memories, especially to people who had the same experiences at sea as R/ops. The comments I got from others reflects that. If the code it's not up to your standards so what? Nobody asked your opinion.Boasting about your career, and your offensive language, it's a disgrace. Get a grip!

  • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
    @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  13 років тому +1

    @ Rich8951 What a nonsense ... I made a Living out of this and I have the videos here posted (some voyages, to prove it) peel off your ego OM and relax a bit. Practice random acts of kindness to people you don’t know. Help people who don’t expect your help. Be generous when it makes the least sense to. Respond to aggression with forgiveness. Be important, not self-important. You can’t keep your eyes on the road and the scenery if you keep checking your constipated looks in the mirror!

  • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
    @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  14 років тому

    NW7US de 9HJV2 GM TKS 73 . .

  • @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS
    @IOANNISKARAPAVLOS  13 років тому +2

    @Rich8951 Now you "teach" GMDSS at the Maritime Academy, are you getting any job satisfaction? Having all the LIDS around you it must be tough. Are they driving you mad? no? Do they know your attitude towards LIDS? Do they know that you are a BIGOT? QUOTE How weak are Argentinian leaders that a woman has to lead? UNQUOTE (your comments about Evita's video) What that was all about? You're ridiculing yourself , annoying people with yr ignorance. I am not wasting my time with you no more. QRT

  • @tellmeitsnottaken
    @tellmeitsnottaken 12 років тому

    You DO realize that Morse was a American, right?

  • @zawir_usaodpowiadausa3354
    @zawir_usaodpowiadausa3354 4 роки тому

    VERY good and operative CW ! Contrary to this american and british were awful CW operators ! Very slow and all on bugs.

  • @zoolkhan
    @zoolkhan 12 років тому

    that may be true, but that doesnt mean you should be proud of a bad hand.
    It is painful to listen to QSD people. And it is arrogant to CW in a way that only a few elitist CW operators can read...(pecause their pain threshold is lower). One should always strive to give in good style. a dit is 3 times smaller than a dah... if you cannot manage that then that is a sad thing to brag about.

  • @geoffreyhattersley9186
    @geoffreyhattersley9186 Рік тому

    They are using “Bug keys”

  • @FIVEMIKEROMEOHOTEL
    @FIVEMIKEROMEOHOTEL 14 років тому +1

    The Greek operators were usually pretty good. They liked 'bug' and electronic keys.
    SVA was so busy especially Christmas and Easter when all the crew would send Greetings telegrams to their families. There were about 4000 Greek ships back in those days, you could wait hours in a queue and then lose contact as the frequency faded out and have to start all over again on another frequency!

  • @FIVEMIKEROMEOHOTEL
    @FIVEMIKEROMEOHOTEL 14 років тому +2

    The Greek operators were usually pretty good. They liked 'bug' and electronic keys.
    SVA was so busy especially Christmas and Easter when all the crew would send Greetings telegrams to their families. There were about 4000 Greek ships back in those days, you could wait hours in a queue and then lose contact as the frequency faded out and have to start all over again on another frequency!