Epic noise, full HSE guidelines and even bird watching. Keep up the good work guys! If your worries out it holding boost, you could use torque Pro to map boost against rpm and it'll show if its holding the pressure over a decent sized graph.
I'll need to figure out how to get the logs off the device. There's a menu I've setup in the car but I've never been able to log into the torque website to view my logs
vPerformance I don't think you need to go on the site to do it. On mine there's an option to log various functions against each other from the main menu
I've had a look on my phones version and you need to select graphing from the starting options menu wheel thingy and then you can you choose your axis and sensor inputs
Hygerus your wrong. If your running a massive cunt of a turbo, or running above 17 psi then you’ll shave years off its life, sure. But running a blanking plate isn’t going to kill or really cause that much damage. Over the course of years, your bearing will begin to wear from inconsistent flow vibrations but even then your not going to notice a whole lot. Now say 10 years down the line, the car has survived by some phenomena and you still own the car. Now the turbo may be slightly chokey, but even so... it will most likely still drive fine.
It's a good noise(tutt tutt tutt) i love it myself, but you have actually made your car slower. I did 4 dyno runs in mine 1 with hks blow off, 1 with cheapo fleabay, 1 with baileys, and 1 without(blanked off). The hks made the car come on boost alot quicker and for longer than the other 2 bov's (HEAVIER SPRING) and the car without was about 20-30hp slower over all and lost all its mid range power. Resulting in a longer 0-60 and 1/4 mile time. Which you dont want being on track! Also the billet compressor wheel will not make any difference in saftey as the bearings on the impeller shafts are usually first to give up due to compressor surge. ( tutt tutt tutt) the billet wheels spool up faster don't get me wrong and make more power but that's adding extra stress on the wheel/bearings when the surge has no where to vent and comes straight back at the fins/blades making them spin backwards. It's only as strong as it's weakest link. And billet wheels are not cheap my friend. Just my 2p worth sorry for being a boring bastard but it's true, and yea they were some seriously fat pigeons! !!
Well the good news is that the dyno last week showed no signs of compressor surge and the boost is running exactly the same with no leaks. I once had a leaky dump valve which cut power like you said because it wouldn't hold shut. I think you're right about the bearings though. Time will tell if it survives!
@@DriftNickwhen the throttle body closes off (when you let go of the gas pedal to shift up) is when the bov is supposed to open to release unwanted pressure on the intake and to slow down the turbo, to get "ready" for next gear's lower rpms. No bov - pressure has nowhere to go but into turbo (and intercooler and piping). No good.
Hi, I have done exactly like that, but I'm not getting the sound. I did it on STI version 8. 2 plates (both 1mm thick) sandwiched the original gasket seal. Any advice will be appreciated
@@vPerformance it's aftermarket air filter.. Stock twin scroll turbo n manifold.. Engine is pretty much stock except of a HKS standalone ECU but running on recirculating valve.
Sounds great! I tend to think turbos fail because of oil related problems (insufficient oil or mid to high boost when the oil is "cold"), not from running without a BPV or BOV.
Especially with the quality of new turbos. As long as the bearings survive another year I'll be happy. We're a little worried about oil pickup when we're on the track so will have to do a baffle plate mod at some point.
What happens if ur boost gauge hoses?apologies. I meant what happens to the boost gauge if u blank off the BOV? Can u habe a boost gauge and a blanked off BOV.? Thank u :)
@@vPerformance hoses?apologies. I meant what happens to the boost gauge if u blank off the BOV? Can u habe a boost gauge and a blanked off BOV.? Thank u :)
@@rebel.mma.youtube yes ur boost gauge should show the same boost unless u incorrectly installed the plate causing it to leak boost, other than that shouldn’t have problems with gauges
Hey I just did this to my 07 wrx and ive had zero results, I can't even tell the plates in there. Any input? Is my turbo shot? Or my recirculation valve? If hanyone has experienced this and fixed it lmk thanks
if you are running a factory turbo intake and filter you wont hear much. also a important note is too put the gasket between the intercooler and block off plate, instead between the bov and block off plate otherwise will leak pressure and further reduce noise.
It’s not the turbo that will fail, the harm is boost past the throttle body before it closely fully. When a turbos spinning at 150k rpm’s, back pressure will only slow it down. Extra boost always on the throttle body and going into the cylinders while closing is harmful over time
Everything you just said is wrong, with or without a blow off valve some air will still get pass the throttle before it closes, there is no extra air from not running a valve going into the cylinders that that will cause anything harmful, also it does not slow the turbo down, people have tested it, after lifting off the throttle the rate at which the turbo slows down is no different between running a valve and not running one.
@@vPerformance Lmao i'm def doing this to my STI. I have to stay in warranty so I can't get an intake, tune, burbles so this is my "bolt-on" ricer mod lmao
It’s not a dump valve... is a diverter. In your case you blanked your diverter valve When you say dump valve I was assuming you were going to blank an external wastegate 😂😂😂
Sounding good, well better than my saab thats for sure, currently got it chased down to either the crank sensor or an injector or 2...crank sensor isn't reading what it should with the multimeter...so stuck driving the mrs's ancient yaris (a mighty 69 bhp and 1.0 of NA engine) (well if it passes the mot the morra that is)
We'll see after the mot if it passes or not lol. Just venting about not being able to get the Saab to start, not meaning to sound like a broken record lol..... Good video though, better than some where they just chuck money at the problem and are secretly sponsored.
"Look at the size of those FOKIN Pidgins!" ...... Holy shit I nearly died!!!
Big bastards right?
Epic noise, full HSE guidelines and even bird watching. Keep up the good work guys! If your worries out it holding boost, you could use torque Pro to map boost against rpm and it'll show if its holding the pressure over a decent sized graph.
I'll need to figure out how to get the logs off the device. There's a menu I've setup in the car but I've never been able to log into the torque website to view my logs
vPerformance I don't think you need to go on the site to do it. On mine there's an option to log various functions against each other from the main menu
I've had a look on my phones version and you need to select graphing from the starting options menu wheel thingy and then you can you choose your axis and sensor inputs
your turbo/engine is perfectly safe without a BOV. Please do some extensive research on this topic to anyone who thinks otherwise.
Jonathan Salgado you’re dumb lol. Pick up a book or go online and do some research. This is extremely bad for the turbo.
Hygerus Let me guess, regurgitating information you read online? Genius!
Jonathan Salgado I want to learn more about turbos etc, could you explain it to me please
Hygerus your wrong. If your running a massive cunt of a turbo, or running above 17 psi then you’ll shave years off its life, sure. But running a blanking plate isn’t going to kill or really cause that much damage.
Over the course of years, your bearing will begin to wear from inconsistent flow vibrations but even then your not going to notice a whole lot.
Now say 10 years down the line, the car has survived by some phenomena and you still own the car. Now the turbo may be slightly chokey, but even so... it will most likely still drive fine.
@@Boofedit i hope your right because i’m gonna do this i’m only running stock boost with a shit load of kz 🤣
It's a good noise(tutt tutt tutt) i love it myself, but you have actually made your car slower. I did 4 dyno runs in mine 1 with hks blow off, 1 with cheapo fleabay, 1 with baileys, and 1 without(blanked off). The hks made the car come on boost alot quicker and for longer than the other 2 bov's (HEAVIER SPRING) and the car without was about 20-30hp slower over all and lost all its mid range power. Resulting in a longer 0-60 and 1/4 mile time. Which you dont want being on track! Also the billet compressor wheel will not make any difference in saftey as the bearings on the impeller shafts are usually first to give up due to compressor surge. ( tutt tutt tutt) the billet wheels spool up faster don't get me wrong and make more power but that's adding extra stress on the wheel/bearings when the surge has no where to vent and comes straight back at the fins/blades making them spin backwards. It's only as strong as it's weakest link. And billet wheels are not cheap my friend. Just my 2p worth sorry for being a boring bastard but it's true, and yea they were some seriously fat pigeons! !!
Well the good news is that the dyno last week showed no signs of compressor surge and the boost is running exactly the same with no leaks. I once had a leaky dump valve which cut power like you said because it wouldn't hold shut. I think you're right about the bearings though. Time will tell if it survives!
How does blow off valve or no blow off valve make any difference on throttle when a blow off valve would be closed?
@@DriftNickwhen the throttle body closes off (when you let go of the gas pedal to shift up) is when the bov is supposed to open to release unwanted pressure on the intake and to slow down the turbo, to get "ready" for next gear's lower rpms. No bov - pressure has nowhere to go but into turbo (and intercooler and piping). No good.
@@predragbalorda Did you even read my comment?
"and to slow down the turbo, to get "ready" for next gear's lower rpms."
???
@@DriftNick yes. Did you read mine?
Can you please post an update on how the delete has treated the turbo? Maybe a video update!
1.5 years later any issues?
Absolutely none. It runs great!
@@vPerformance ok that's it. I'm doing this to my foz lmao
Totally worth it
@@vPerformance Would it hurt my stock turbo on my 02 Wrx Bugeye?
Skyler Smith no!
Also how did you get the afr on the tourqe app?
It was in the menu when I added a widget. Its not a true afr as it just calculates from other sensor readings, but it's surprisingly accurate
Idk why you guys don't have 500k subs, yall are such amazing energies
Hi, I have done exactly like that, but I'm not getting the sound. I did it on STI version 8. 2 plates (both 1mm thick) sandwiched the original gasket seal. Any advice will be appreciated
Are you running standard air filter? It's much quieter on standard
@@vPerformance it's aftermarket air filter.. Stock twin scroll turbo n manifold.. Engine is pretty much stock except of a HKS standalone ECU but running on recirculating valve.
Clorox Bleach turbo intake and filter need upgrading to get results
I want to do this on my Saab 9-3 2005 210 hp. But DV is mounted on the turbine , you have it on tmic, what it changes?
Do you still run with it? No issues?
Almost two years of mostly trackday and drift days, and no issues!
Sounds great! I tend to think turbos fail because of oil related problems (insufficient oil or mid to high boost when the oil is "cold"), not from running without a BPV or BOV.
Especially with the quality of new turbos. As long as the bearings survive another year I'll be happy. We're a little worried about oil pickup when we're on the track so will have to do a baffle plate mod at some point.
Just did that to my Golf mk6 1.4... nothing happens just pssshhh and the turbo booost droped down from 1.5 bar to 0.5
What happens if ur boost gauge hoses?apologies. I meant what happens to the boost gauge if u blank off the BOV? Can u habe a boost gauge and a blanked off BOV.? Thank u :)
Could you rephrase?
@@vPerformance hoses?apologies. I meant what happens to the boost gauge if u blank off the BOV? Can u habe a boost gauge and a blanked off BOV.? Thank u :)
@@rebel.mma.youtube yes ur boost gauge should show the same boost unless u incorrectly installed the plate causing it to leak boost, other than that shouldn’t have problems with gauges
Hey I just did this to my 07 wrx and ive had zero results, I can't even tell the plates in there. Any input? Is my turbo shot? Or my recirculation valve? If hanyone has experienced this and fixed it lmk thanks
if you are running a factory turbo intake and filter you wont hear much. also a important note is too put the gasket between the intercooler and block off plate, instead between the bov and block off plate otherwise will leak pressure and further reduce noise.
It’s not the turbo that will fail, the harm is boost past the throttle body before it closely fully. When a turbos spinning at 150k rpm’s, back pressure will only slow it down. Extra boost always on the throttle body and going into the cylinders while closing is harmful over time
Everything you just said is wrong, with or without a blow off valve some air will still get pass the throttle before it closes, there is no extra air from not running a valve going into the cylinders that that will cause anything harmful, also it does not slow the turbo down, people have tested it, after lifting off the throttle the rate at which the turbo slows down is no different between running a valve and not running one.
Is it still on the car and did it make stuff fail🤔
It's still there! No damage to report even after some evil track thrashing and about 10,000 miles covered.
You still using it and that turbo still working?
Sure am! It's now running even more boost and still going strong
@@vPerformance Lmao i'm def doing this to my STI. I have to stay in warranty so I can't get an intake, tune, burbles so this is my "bolt-on" ricer mod lmao
Eye goggles and ear goggles pmsl
Some of the stuff that comes out of Dave's mouth has me in stitches 🤣
If you blank off the dump valve what is making the sound when on boost.....would have expected no sound?
I think it is the compressor surge making the noise.
Did you take the gasket out or leave it in?
Update Please ???
mods in the caR?
ToGeR i think it’s stock only BOV mod
Would love a chance to actually speak to yous guys. I live in Scotland also. Is there anyway of contacting yous??
Easiest way is to send us a message on Facebook!
It’s not a dump valve... is a diverter.
In your case you blanked your diverter valve
When you say dump valve I was assuming you were going to blank an external wastegate 😂😂😂
Can you imagine the destruction 😂
vPerformance Surley someone has got to have tried this and just full sent it, I’d love to see how quick a turbo can explode 😂
You stop that right now before big dave sees the comment 😂
vPerformance HAHAHAH yes!
How’s the turbo still holding up
Still alive, not a single issue!
They weren’t demonitized
surprised it dosnt cause check light?
Nope! Nothing but smooth sailing and blue skies
funny how you had a drill-press....
and we even used it!
no boost ?
What turbo were you running
It's a VF48 with a billet compressor wheel.
Sounding good, well better than my saab thats for sure, currently got it chased down to either the crank sensor or an injector or 2...crank sensor isn't reading what it should with the multimeter...so stuck driving the mrs's ancient yaris (a mighty 69 bhp and 1.0 of NA engine) (well if it passes the mot the morra that is)
As long as you're still mobile that's the main thing. Sounds like this Saab has caused you nothing but trouble recently!
We'll see after the mot if it passes or not lol. Just venting about not being able to get the Saab to start, not meaning to sound like a broken record lol.....
Good video though, better than some where they just chuck money at the problem and are secretly sponsored.
Update pls!
Almost a year later and no issues!
Video update pls
I used a coke can years ago. This reminded me and it's still in there hahaha.
You are going to destroy the turbo
Well it's been two years of hard punishment and it's still perfect.
Rafael go learn
You know is it bad for an twin turbo car?
I’m tuned on 93. Would this hurt my tune?
Are you tuned for an external blow off valve?
I have an sc36 on my 05 sti and might have to do this mod.....
I bet that will sound tremendous. There's always a risk to turbo bearings, but I've decided it's worth it and made the mod.