POLICE YELL AT BOATER IN POINT PLEASANT CANAL! Strong Currents and Waves Cause Trouble for Boats
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- The current was ripping today in the Point Pleasant Canal -- creating waves and hazards for boaters going under the bridge.
This canal is long, deep, and narrow, making the currents very strong. If you are in a smaller boat, you may have some trouble.
Enjoy as boats go in and out of the canal and pass each other under the bridge.
5:33--That skipper navigated his Whaler perfectly, staying in the trough, adjusting his speed in order to do so. Well done!
The guy in the Grady did well, too.
That current is serious in that canal! Really good way to watch how boats handle current and waves. Thanks for this awesome channel.
Glad you enjoy it!
Yeah! When I saw the jetski struggling I knew for sure that water was moving quick.
I totally get the idea of not wanting someone riding on the bow of a boat thru the canal, and specifically in what is the nastiest section, that guy was safer there at that point then he was trying to move to the stern while pitching and rolling like that. Its bad to have a dangerous situation but worse to make something more dangerous trying to fix the first issue...
I agree
i would have declared a Mayday and told the guy to stay in the bow . All in the name of safety
@@whdbnrm3023 I don't know that I'd call a mayday since that might elicit an emergency type response from the marine unit and other resources. I would tell the guy in the bow to stay put and if the troopers want to discuss it someplace calm then they're welcome to come have that conversation but my response would be that I'm the master of that vessel and ultimately responsible for the safety of those aboard and therefore I get the final call on what option is best for the well-being of those aboard.
If they were to site a law on this it would be section 13:82-1.13 which says "the operator of a vessel shall not allow any person to ride in any position that would endanger life or limb". Thats fairly open ended when it comes to boats and what positions might endanger life or limb. For example, I was trained to keep people from sitting on or doing things near the transom while running, the idea being that if a person gets knocked off the stern and nobody sees it then it may take some time before anyone notices that person isn't down in a berth sleeping or in the head by which point its nearly impossible to know where or when it happened or to render quick aid, but is the transom considered unsafe by this law cause i see plenty of people sitting near transoms. We have all these pontoon boats around now, why aren't they stopping them in the bay when there's kids along the front rail? One slip and not only do they go over but the pontoons will channel them right into the propeller with potentially lethal consequences.
In my mind that person moving back from the bow is becoming more endangered and the order is requesting me to at minimum commit a more gross violation of that statute than them being there to begin with.
@@alexkitner5356 You are right on all the points . Calling a Mayday for a few waves might be a bit extreme and could result in some legal consequences . But having the person move did put him in a awkward predicament
@@whdbnrm3023 if they really want to push the issue it's as simple as referring to the second rule in the book, if going by the rules would create a more dangerous situation due to special circumstances then that overrules the book...
Love this channel….reminds me that not everyone has a 50 foot, 2 million dollar center console with quad 450R Mercs.
Haha yup. Thanks for watching!
Yea unfortunately it also let's us see if you can only afford or only have the space a pwc your not allowed to play with everyone else, sad
@@01squigs this is one small spot they can’t cross lol. You’re free to roam the 42 mile long Barnegat Bay, surrounding rivers, and ocean😅
@@01squigs Its for safety, really small underpowered boats and skis can be easily overwhelmed by the currents in that canal when its bad. Have some family who take their 400HP CC down it, and even that thing can sturggle
@@TheMrLebaron are you kidding me have you seen some of the hp ratings coming out on newer jetskis out of the factory they hey have 250 300 hp that's better than alot of boats it you say its because jet propulsion doesn't respond well at lower speeds ill say OK but that much on a jetski with that little weight nah !!!
Thank you for the PP Canal video.
I wish you made this video 45 years ago when the 88 and Bridge ave crossings were the original wooden bridges. Now that was a crazy ride.
My neighbor back in 1973 had a 35 ft Chris Craft that the bridges had to open for. He was waiting on a Southbound bridge opening and somehow the boat turned sideways and got sucked under the Bridge Ave bridge. He jumped off the flying bridge of the boat a split second before it hit and was ripped off the superstructure.
Those were the days.
The canal is a piece of cake now. Use your power , bow up, and cruise on thru.
Back in 73 I took my 65 hp Merc 17 foot Dixie thru that bride into a standing 5 foot wave from a much larger vessel . Hit the throttle just to punch thru it as it would have flipped my little boat .Got real wet but made it thru
@Franz Klammer I know what he is talking about. Like a wave in a river rapids.
@@robertbiolsi9815 If you tell me that was a 65 Merc THUNDER BOLT ignition - then youve made my day.
I had a 1967 Merc 3 cylinder THUNDER BOLT ignition on a 16 Ft Tom Sawyer boat, that I use to run thru the canal in the early 70s
The sound of that engine still gives me chills.
@Franz Klammer those were the days👍
And there where 80 % less boats in the area
I have navigated through that canal since I was about 14 yrs old. Experienced it with the old bridges too. At that time, you had bow riders going down every weekend. People just have no clue how dangerous that canal is or how to navigate it. Going against the current is the worst and I see too many boats without their motors trimmed up. Watching these videos with people stacked in the front of the boats is just mind boggling. Another example of people who have the money to buy a boat, but have no idea how to SAFELY operate one.
Nice work! I run a 35’Bertram through the canal. It is supposed to be “No Wake”. Those waves present me with little difficulty, but we see the smaller boats having trouble. Please keep your speed up.
no wake by USCG definition is the slowest speed possible to maintain headway. it does not mean no wake
So the cop can yell to slow it down ?
That’s how I boat. I run at enough speed and trim to maintain headway while traversing no wake waterways. Sometimes I make wake, sometimes I don’t.
@@whdbnrm3023 It's for each captain to decide what to do concerning the yelling . My boat, my rules. No siren, no lights, his yelling toward my direction doesn't really concern me. Maybe he's yelling at someone else nearby, maybe he's yelling "Hi, how ya doin?" to a fisherman along shore, dunno. If I believe my passengers are all safe, and my boat speed is appropriate, it's my call to make, not Barney Fife's.
@@moregrouchy you said it better then I could . Anybody yelling into the wind doesn't mean anything to me .
Great to see a channel covering the NJ waterways. Count me in as a new subscriber!
Thanks so much!
Same!
Excellent, glad I ran across this! tired of the usual Florida inlet vids. That looks like a serious channel with hell of a current, I bet those single engine small boats had a hell of a time just fighting the current, thanks for the vid man, awesome!
Thanks for watching, David!
To be fair, down in Florida ( I have family in NJ and this Canal is no joke ) we tend to have massively overpowered center consoles flying through inlets at 70MPH. So we're kinda prime youtube material
Great Video, been through that canal 100s of times. I remember going through before the original bridges were replaced. The water got bottlenecked under them and it was like the rapids on the Colorado river. The canal is not natural and there is an elevation difference between the bay and the river causing a very strong current.
I've never experienced it before the bridge change. Can't imagine it being worse!
@@ShoreBoats The bridge Piers were close together in the center of the canal. It was ridiculous, You had to really power through to get to the other side. The boat wakes made it worse. Many boats floundered there. That State Police station was not there. I rarely ever saw Police in the canal.
@@ShoreBoats when that old bascule bridge was there with the bottleneck and the ledge thats there it was insane how dangerous it could be. The only thing I might say that was any better was that it commanded that much more respect and perhaps kept some who shouldn't be there from trying it and that those who did would take more safety conscious actions like wearing pfds. We always wore ours in there when we had a boat at Johnson Brothers and traversed it regularly.
@@tomsreviews238 The N. J. Marine Police was in that location. They became NJ Troopers later on.
@@2pugman I been going there since I was a kid and that building wasn't there when I started going through the canal.
Coming through the bridge is a challenge at peak tide change there's a two ft drop from side to side. Had my 16 ft 65 hp half throttle almost through to have engine clank an stop . Boat driffed back for 10 ft to violently turn around an duck rear down to rushing water with engine pulling up . Managed to lift motor to find steel cable wrapped around prop .. boat is now half full of water an pouring in . Had presance of mind to restart in netrule an throw motor to reverse spinning cable off an limping boat now 3/4 full of water . So much so 6 gal gas tank floating on rear seat to island outside entrance by hospital . After dealing boat an reafirming never go through there at tide change as cable floated up from firsness of currant again . Lesson learned
I cant believe you have no life jacket requirement on a piece of water like that and that you allow small children without life jackets to to ride unattended in the bow section. Insanity!
Currents like these are no joke. That waterway cop is understandably nervous. On a day like this you'd wear a PFD on my boat until we're well clear of the canal and inlet or I'd take you back to the ramp. To be bow-riding with a leg in the water is asking to be dragged overboard where the hull could crack your head, break your ribs or an arm or leg, and you'd still have to avoid the prop. Odds of rescue given the current, an injury, and no PFD are minimal. Even uninjured with no PFD your odds are not good. Wearing a PFD injured or not it could still be a long, difficult rescue. Boats coming in/ out with the current can't just stop in a narrow waterway like this, and they may not be able to avoid you floating in the channel.
The fact someone tried to take a PWC through the canal is insane ( family in NJ via the step dads fam, been through it a few times ) I have a VERY capable 23 Foot Key West Center Console ( built in Florida ) down h ere on the Panhandle and just like the boaters in this vid, despite it having pretty big motors on the back, I would be REALLY carefull taking it through this canal, let alone a PWC
@@TheMrLebaron oh please. I could jet ski through jumping from wave to wave.
@@edwardschmitt5710 ya
@@edwardschmitt5710 that's why people die
Love the canal vids. Videos don’t do the canal justice on how crazy it gets. If you don’t hit it by 6am to get to manasquan your in for an adventure
Thanks, Mike! I agree. It is much worse in person lol
Yep! That was our route from Brick. Hairy as hell and gotta power through it. My 1st time in rush hour, i was like you kiddin me, right? Lmao
Everyone seems unbelievably complacent in what looks to be a potentially life threatening situation during periods of strong current.
That’s funny… and true
You are absolutely right. Many boats overloaded and people sitting in the front! Get those people in the stern!
Ignorance is truly bliss.
this is jersey we are talking about..
@@imkubaa9783 I'm in Australia so I have no clue about Jersey 😂
The guy at 4:24 seriously knows how to drive a boat! He’s navigating the waves and steering with the wave instead of just plowing through the waves like most! Great job!!!
Yeah but only the one kid has a life jacket on, the way that current is going, if she goes over, it may not end well, she needs a life jacket on as well, esp being on the bow
That’s because he’s sporting a very capable Boston Whaler.
@@richardc4105 they both do. It’s the angle.
@@letsgobrandon5800 Exactly....the Tri-hull helps, too
@@richardc4105 I really don’t understand how the people navigating these treacherous waters don’t wear life jackets but even more so don’t insist on the children wearing them. In my opinion it’s just plain stupid!!
Curious as to what jurisdiction they have to restrict jet skis on navigable waterway.
They weren’t just saying that to be dicks it a known thing that there is no jet skis allowed in canal
This is New Jersey.. They make up laws as they go along 🤷♂️
Since when does government boots care about jurisdiction?
asking this while they also struggle to turn around and go the way they came in, i think that’s the reason why they don’t want them coming in and out
they can’t fight the canal waters cause of how small it is
@@ark6893 They are no where near full throttle, Jetskis go fine in the ocean. They were trying to follow the "no wake" which is pointless and not really in effect during major tidal change
Great video thank you hope to see more from the canal
Thanks! You’ll see more
Lmao! No PWC in the canal but here comes dude in a small ass Jon boat with a 15hp outboard!
PWCs are lucky to be allowed on the water, period. They'd be absolute menaces in the canal, not to mention all of the drunken idiots floating around in there after falling off.
@@VisibilityFoggy let's kill off another industry that employs lots of people and brings $$$$$ to vacation destinations that need to entertain the public .
Mercury and Yamaha are the two big players in outboards, the 80K V-12 600hp Mercury is something. Evinrude is gone.
The police have one hell of a soft job there, just watching boats go by, beats a day on a construction site I guess 🤣!
I read when they opened this canal it caused the inlet to close up. The inlet had to be dug out and the rock jetties built in 1931.
I am the last boat to go under the bridge at the 19-second mark. I felt so bad for the guy in the blue top Sea-Ray. The current coming through the bridge was no joke, and I need to power up. I yelled at him to do the same. My wake was pretty big and swamped him. I made sure he was safe and was ready to turn around if he needed help. Although it's no wake, you have the right to maintain 100% control of your boat at whatever speed it takes. 20-25 kt South wind that day.
Yea current was very strong that day. I saw him again the next weekend and he was traveling at a safer speed
The current is so strong you can see it,its just like here in SF bay around Alcatraz it gets nasty and deep then shallow creates strong wierd currents. Cool video.
Something about this is relaxing to watch
I was born and raised in the borough I miss that canal I remember the old draw bridge at 88. And Loveland town. I fished in that canal very dangerous. Currents
Why is that water is so rough. You think a canal flowing outbound would be smooth. Is this have something to do with the tide coming in and out. Heck I got seasick just watching the video
Great vid. Never heard the police on the pa.
Are these police commands backed by laws? No feet dangling, no pwc's, no bow riding. New subscriber. Great job!
The no bow riding is actually a USCG regulation. The no PWC's is probably a local ordinance. The feet dangling is just common sense, unless you like to risk a broken ankle that is!
As far as I know ( have family in the area from my mothers second marriage ) who have a nice boat they take in this area. Its a local ordnance that no PWCs are allowed in the Canal. Bow riding isn't allowed by the USCG. This canal can overwhelm people who dont know what their doing so easily.
Backed by common sense
@@jellybean9396 police enforce laws not common sense. That's what I was trying to find out. Sounds like bow riding and pwc's have backing. Not sure about the foot dangling over the edge.
@@WayneTX254 USGC regulation. Esp in this canal where boats can bump into each other now and then. Also have you seen some of the haulover videos of people getting chucked out of boats because of bow riding? The only reason people do it there is because the Miami police dont give a fuck
Strong current and big waves…
Everyone to the bow!
with all due respect . Why are you looking what other people do ? Is it any of your business ?
I bet that there's fish stacked up in that little marina/slack water area just off that main channel. That's a pretty good tidal rip goin on in that canal.
Think this is a bad inlet try Barnegat on windy day with tide change. Even before the inlet you have to make it thru the breakers. Then you enter the ever changing bay. Before the Oyster Creek Power Plant shut down an artificial reef was building at the end of the cooling water canal discharge. The water was about 80 degrees F all year round. We were getting sponges and catching tropical fish. I got a very nice Triggerfish for my saltwater tank. The marine life would make it way up the Gulf Stream after storms. We found a plastic milk crate 20 miles out off the inlet that had fish and seaweed in side it it was overturned an floating.
Pleasure boater are the most dangerous. Former USCG.
Been thru this canal a bunch of times, definitely gotta stay on the gas
Sounds like the teacher from the peanuts...
Just imagine how many more rescues and drownings there would be if the Police didn't correct them. Great job!
A lot of people think going out on a boat means a day of drinking. Yeah let's get wasted ! When the officer asked him to get off the bow he had no idea what a bow was. He was clueless, he just came along to get a tan and drink beer all day.
I never heard the state police station talk to people all my life i lived here... learned something new each day
3:18 Having the magna still attached to the bow rail was a nice touch. Bonus points for having the fenders out!
I can't get over the number of little kids in the boats without life vests! So-called parents too lazy to do their job or just don't care. Infuriating! I'll never forget when my Dad pulled an 18 mo. old from the water that had drowned in a canal, he was depressed and heart broken for months seeing that precious child like that. Everyone please do everything you can and take every measure to protect your children around the water for all the "what ifs". Because you never know when or how it will happen and that is why they are called accidents. Please protect your precious priceless children.
A couple of things I don't get. If you are in bad waves, trying to get off the bow in those conditions is less safe then just staying there. The guy struggled to get off safely.
Secondly, why no PWCs in the canal?? In rough water, I would much rather be in a PWC than any boat under 20 ft. You have much more control - or at least in the ones I ride.
I’m amazed at how fast these boats go in that canal
Current will do that.
Wtf.. do these parents just not want their children anymore. With this much current, nobody should be on the bow
Not from here, why is this river appear to be so turbulent?
Mr. Big man hanging out of the boat.
Takes the police to tell these simple minded people to do the right thing. Amazing. Wow people are stupid
At least 85 percent of those passengers had NO life preservers on going right by the NJSP marine division barracks. This is an unsafe operation of small craft, especially when children are not wearing floatation devices in strong unpredictable waters. Those boat captains should know better, if someone drowns while on their boat, they're failure to provide a safe transit may cost them in more ways than one. Safe travels to all, better safe than sorry.
That's a pretty intense current! Is that just tidal between the Manasquan River and the Boat Head Harbour? If it is then I guess it does this in each direction twice a day? Looking on Google Maps I can see this canal must be acting like an equalising valve between the river and the harbour. One hell of a ride for the boaties!
There's a difference between tides in the bay on one end and river on the other so the water flies through there. The ocean doesnt have a big difference at the two inlets but the canal is much closer to the Manasquan while the tide has to work its way from Barnegat thru miles of shallow bay to reach the other end. The tide is always rushing to catch up basically, there's a three hour difference between the Manasquan Inlet and the canal, a full half a cycle, in a two mile distance.
When it was first built it changed the dynamics of the water so much that it caused the Manasquan inlet to go dry. The inlet had to be fortified with jetties and then excavated to reopen it.
Saw you at shark river last weekend, any video there soon? We are a 28ft blue Boston whaler. i think filmed us around 6am on 9/4
Sorry Guppy, that wasn't me!
@@ShoreBoats mmm any other channels that film shark river.
looks like the boating equivalent of going off road in the desert
I don’t think that is a real cop. He didn’t even as anybody for an ID. Heck, he didn’t even shoot a family dog.
Very strong tide!
Yes, so strong !
Thanks a lot for this video. Now I know I don’t want to move to this place ever. Looks like north corea with all the regulations and police attitude
This canal can become very dangerous and people act stupid through here endangering other boaters.
This is a very dangerous canal. Not for beginners at all. I don’t know why small vessels are even allowed through it.
They are drunk
Police are inconcisent with their warnings.
Why so rough? Tide changing or is this place always crappy?
Like the new view that canal was like a washing machine
Thanks! Yeah it was nuts
Why is the jetski not allowed in?
I used to live on the canal. There was a guy who would go out against the tide and come in against the tide, seemingly every night, in a row boat with what had to be a 4 HP motor. He had that thing pinned and it took forever to get out of earshot. The joys of canal life.
Love those Boston Whalers
This is like watching the wheels on the bus go round and round
how big does a boat have to be before you can ride on the bow?
That Trophy with the kid, my god.
I like the fact that they are actually ENFORCING rules in this inlet. This is what they NEED TOO DO down at Haulover Inlet in Florida. People get away with WAY WAY too much shit down there. Speeding past each other, not wearing life jackets, some even putting there kids in danger with them overhanging the sides or in the bow. Some are even over capacity for the size of the boat. It's just ridiculous what they get away with down there.
New Jersey a police state that’s rules and regulations Florida’s not
Big brother......
@@johnmueller155 Yeah i live on Cape Cod, MA year round. So we get plenty of boaters here in the summer. We just don't put up that shit here. Florida is way to lax about there rules.
why? jet skies are good at handling waves
Why no jet skis in canal? They are boats right?
strong current yet its a no wake zone... only way through that safely is having some power if on a smaller vessel.
What was the apparatus mounted on the bow of the Trophy at 3:25?
What makes some of these canals so swift and rough, is it the tide coming in and out. Does is switch directions?
Yes, the tide does switch directions.When the tide is going out is usually when it's the roughest
Steel bulkheads on each side as well. Waves just bounce off them.
Mam, I would not want to go thru that every time I went in or out.
So are the waves caused by strong currents?
At 5:33 that small fishing boat is doing the smartest thing. He’s tucked right in behind a bigger boat whose wake is smoothing the water.
why PWC are not alowed in the canal?
That's so crazy. The only boat that needs to be in that water is a kayak.
Wow, busy day for the Central Scrutinizer. Where is the source of that disembodied voice?
Why is the current so rough r is it like that all the time
Going into such strong waters and it seems like no one was wearing a life jacket geez no matter how good of a swimmer you are getting plunged into those waters could mean death there's almost no way to rescue someone in that water they would be swept away pretty fast. It looks like some of the boats at times are like just standing still.
Anyone else get a sinister vibe with the echoing and the crazy current? lol
Have you been to Barnegat inlet recently?
I wouldn’t listen to the police in that situation… operator of the boat should’ve told the kid to stay. Also PWC should. e allowed in. I don’t understand
Great channel I'll subscribe!
Just found this channel,loving it
Thanks for watching!!
If i lived near here I would just sit on a deckchair all day with a bottle of gin, howling with laughter 😂
Ooo the little 12ft fishing boat nearly didn’t get through
I am wondering if this canal had a second name of Manasquan canal years ago? I lived and was brought up on that canal in Point Pleasant. I think this is the bridge up by the river rather than the bay. The bridges were different back then.
Yeah, I believe it used to be called the Bay Head - Manasqaun Canal. The bridge in the video is the one by the bay. Thanks for watching!
@@ShoreBoats I think because of the traffic passing over the bridge it the bridge closest to the river not the bay. Am I wrong?? We lived on Shore Blvd in Bay Head Shores. Love you videos they make me Home Sick.
Ha. The first time I went through this canal, I was in a 14-foot Starcraft aluminum boat with my dad and his state trooper buddy lol.
Could you imagine trying to get back in through that with a 25 hp motor? On an aluminum Jon boat even?!
If you feel sink and swim
Is there a law that you can't be on the bow of the boat in this canal?
In reality most recreational boats are not very sea worthy. Open bow boats are an accident waiting to happen but seem to be all the rage, even in off shore boats. Simply doesn't make much sense to place your life in jeopardy with such poorly designed water craft.
Quite a current. I realize this is for entertainment. What does the Canal typically look like at slack tide?
Yes
0:06 Someone doesn't know how to handle a small boat. Bow should be up, bow cover should be on!
when i had my bowrider cover was always on going through here
Hey get that wave runner out of the waves
Here i agree whit police 👍🙏... 100%..
What is it, tide differential in the bays and a rising or a lowering tide that causes this condition there?
Sooo umm, did the jet ski make it home?
We’ll never know
The boats going with the tide (in this case the outgoing tide going left to right) always get bounced around more than those going into the tide. Also that section of the canal has some of the worst standing waves.
Sure as hell hope they don't enforce any "no wake zone" regulations going through that stretch. Be damned near impossible to keep control going downstream
They don't along as conditions don't permit it
They dont. I know it seems strange the cops yell at people. But its a REALLY insane area to boat in. Theyre doing it to keep people safe. When the canal is like that, it can get really intense really fast.
Right there at the Marine Police barracks is the only break in the metal bulkheads the whole length of the canal. Wakes just reflect off the bulkheads and keep on going.
Usually zones like this are designated as “min wake”. At least here in Florida. Min wake allows you to proceed at a speed necessary to maintain directional control for your vessel. Versus No Wake/Idle zones which give you no leeway (but they don’t do it in areas similar to this canal).
I am a salt and fresh water boater of 22 years. Let’s talk law. Someone please tell me where there is a maritime law that prevents a passenger of a vessel from sitting on the bow or the gunwale - or a maritime law or ordinance that allows law enforcement to enforce laws through a bullhorn from the shore. This is the equivalent of a cop standing on the sidewalk yelling at cars. Law - show me law. Ready? Go.
Took about 10 seconds to find this using Google search (you should try it sometime)
nj.gov/njsp/marine-services/pdf/Title_13_82_20220127.pdf
NJ Administrative Code Title 13:82-1 (Rev. 2020) General Provisions
"13:82-1.13 Riders (a) The operator of a vessel shall not allow any person to ride in any position that would endanger life or limb nor allow passengers or cargo in excess of the maximum capacity stated on the manufacturer’s or U.S. Coast Guard capacity label. 1. This prohibition includes, but is not limited to, any position where the person may be in danger of falling overboard."
WHY allow that sweet Golden Retriever sit on the bow?? Dogs can't hold on.
Why no wave runners?? They are safer than many boats in churn like this. Thus called "wave runners"
Manasquan and PT pleasant inlets are just as bad haulover!!
I've been on both, Haulover is WAY more crazy. But PT isn't much better
This is the Point Pleasant Canal. Different thoroughfare. Manasquan Inlet is "bad" about 10 days out of the entire year. Yes, it's REALLY bad on those days. But it's arguably one of the most "user friendly" inlets on the east coast otherwise.