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  • @datohleonggez
    @datohleonggez  Рік тому +35

    guys! sign up and try to beat the rank 1 guy on every monthly tournament rpt.gg/dotahleondota2
    wait.. why is the link called datohleon 🤨

    • @armanillo4695
      @armanillo4695 Рік тому +1

      I wish you didn't promote this dogshit betting service that promotes people to be bad actors in games in order to win some money

    • @alexreiner2658
      @alexreiner2658 Рік тому +1

      when is the correct time to take talent?

    • @onebaliwgg8206
      @onebaliwgg8206 Рік тому

      can you make item and skill guide for this? like torte guide

  • @null5241
    @null5241 Рік тому +155

    Babe, wake up, datoh uploaded a new vid

  • @eiatot6455
    @eiatot6455 Рік тому +28

    I recommend casting Coldsnap before Tornado so you secure some extra stuns frames for the Meteor to land, this frames can sometimes be used by the victim to avoid a big chunk of the combo.
    Also there are basically 4 different ways to cast Deafening Blast after Tornado by changing the angle but mostly the timing you can make the Def Blast push the enemy Forwards ( without thinking, enemies taking about 80% max dmg out put, this will be affected by the enemy move speed ), Backwards ( if too early and you make them hit it with its tail ), Perfectly synced & aligned with the Meteor's rolling ( if still affected by Coldsnap, this will most likely be the case but you need to mind the timing ) or as a Cross section if u dont have access to Coldsnap and need to compensate for the enemies' most probable scape route.

    • @miglehp4592
      @miglehp4592 7 місяців тому

      he casts coldsnap after tornado but before the tornado projectile lands, meaning he gets more uptime from the coldsnap while still getting the first stun as soon as they land from the tornado.

    • @eiatot6455
      @eiatot6455 7 місяців тому

      @@miglehp4592 CS first tick secures obvious or forced tornados, else people can react with a force staff.
      What u are saying is good but it all depends on what u need to prioritize

  • @arsenusthearsenalswagus4200
    @arsenusthearsenalswagus4200 Рік тому +49

    This will less likely work if you dont have a friend that will help you lane and farm safer. Random people will outright refuse to help you lane or farm when you pick like that, because they rather believe youre throwing than believe that you are serious with your pick.

    • @vio55
      @vio55 Рік тому

      then just play mid and pretend u are a drow mid

  • @bloppdota2
    @bloppdota2 Рік тому +61

    i played nearly exactly that item build on invoker 10 years ago back in dota 1 & only used forged spirits/meteor/alacrity & sometimes sunstrike😄

    • @Gabriel.Q
      @Gabriel.Q Рік тому +25

      Don't forget the alacrity cold snap + MOM build. That shit was broken once upon a time

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Рік тому +15

      invoker's recent talents made him a beast at carrying

    • @yoink9148
      @yoink9148 Рік тому +1

      back in the day its bad, its only good now because of the changes and talents that amps his orbs.

    • @mrhs-oe4mu
      @mrhs-oe4mu Рік тому +1

      ​@@yoink9148 invoker hitter build is so common back days 😅 you just need to set up with ghost walk and buy mom + bkb/orchid + cold snap + forge spirit

    • @mirceadanila865
      @mirceadanila865 8 місяців тому +1

      This type of voker was op since dota 1 days, when i also played ss+ fs + exort + alacrity and buriz + mom + ac..good old 10+ years old s**t

  • @protkeyt
    @protkeyt Рік тому +20

    Man, I knew this was doable but it had to have a specific early build and behavior.
    THANK YOU 💕

  • @kaelxeth
    @kaelxeth Рік тому +18

    This was quite popular years ago, especially with the AC - Forge Spirit right click is underated, back then we used to build basilus just to strengthen the spirits, nice content as always!

    • @beoptimal8650
      @beoptimal8650 Рік тому +4

      forge spirits+necrobook+forcestaff

    • @kaelxeth
      @kaelxeth Рік тому

      @@beoptimal8650 good old days, where invoker is a furion with spells

  • @pramadanaagsha3943
    @pramadanaagsha3943 Рік тому +56

    You know you make a good content when i only see your video popped on my feed and i already start smiling. Good job datoh!

  • @jhdivina
    @jhdivina Рік тому +144

    Wish more people played dota. This channel is underrated af

    • @Theresnoname8876
      @Theresnoname8876 Рік тому +6

      wow new invoker playstyle(open steam friendlist)
      My Friendlist:3999days online ago

    • @amamamiamh1619
      @amamamiamh1619 Рік тому +9

      Game is dying, not newcomer friendly as well, old player have that toxic mentality...
      Unfortunately that'll kill people in long term

    • @MinesCafeOHG
      @MinesCafeOHG Рік тому

      @@amamamiamh1619 part of it is from "forfeit in captain mode only" so all pick or ranked, hostage in fountain farming and "comeback is real", not everyone likes sweaty ass games every single time believing there's a chance

    • @sobbiess
      @sobbiess Рік тому +7

      I am a new player that joined 3 weeks ago, I can tell you about newcomer POV.
      - Game is toxic
      - Everyone is spamming annoying voice messages
      - Everyone inside is already quite experienced with the game and I got rekted most of the time
      - Why is there no vote based surrender like League? (Especially when DotA takes longer to end a game)

    • @jhdivina
      @jhdivina Рік тому +5

      @sobbiess there is a mute option, which i find helpful to make my games less toxic. Also, i don't come across much toxicity, and i play in SEA. Just mute the noisy ones and play your game.

  • @kuysrengkuo7042
    @kuysrengkuo7042 Рік тому +5

    He is like the Ph. D of dota writing a paper about hero and skills. Intro, theory and example, evidence and conclusion. Win or lose, he proved it convincingly.

  • @tobovikiho1538
    @tobovikiho1538 Рік тому +6

    Tat first pick got me 🤣🤣🔥 lucky u!!

  • @roy-ic8ok1dt4f
    @roy-ic8ok1dt4f Рік тому +5

    I had to say I love your videos! they are super funny and helped me get from 2k to 4k mrr

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Рік тому +8

      thank god cuz most ppl will say they lose after using it haha

    • @KidTrigger
      @KidTrigger Рік тому

      Imagine being 4k mmr lol your so bad noob 😊

  • @justinlavelle9353
    @justinlavelle9353 Рік тому

    was looking for some tips on my void vs ember mid....that was like 6 vids ago. love your stuff m8. your videos i mean o.o;

  • @eyriemalevoire
    @eyriemalevoire Рік тому +7

    I did play invoker safe lane back then. It was on 1-4-4 build that has Madness and Crystalys, with Alacrity and Cold Snap to start team fight, you just right click stuff.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Рік тому +1

      that's unlikely to work now, double forge too valuable 😅

    • @alexkroeger4113
      @alexkroeger4113 Рік тому +1

      it could work if you have your support to stack for you, so you can take it with meteor and deafening blast.
      if you want to fight, you can buy Diffusal blade and use ghostwalk, it's fast bcs of Wex. Diffu > Meteor > Alacrity would be enough. You don't wanna use Cold snap bcs it's bad at lvl 1 Quas.
      you keep farming until you get gleipnir. After this everything is the same regular invoker.

    • @orven_lou
      @orven_lou Рік тому

      1-4-4 is not a good build, double forge will always be better not to mention cold snap with lvl 1 quas is too weak

  • @natosen
    @natosen Рік тому +15

    You know something is wrong if you play in SEA but everyone are nice to you

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Рік тому +4

      ikr, i expect to hvae ppl flame me but most people trust me idk why

  • @bxrxxy
    @bxrxxy Рік тому

    5:04 tide be like: heeey, be careful man!

  • @gandammuu4063
    @gandammuu4063 Рік тому +1

    my friend use to play invoker like this back in dota 1, he goes helm of dominator to bring cents and lifesteal then buriza for damage then cuirass and deso for armor melter

  • @Kuantatmeng709394
    @Kuantatmeng709394 Рік тому

    So much fun seeing this type of invo again, last time i have a friend that play the exact playstype but still midlane, rushing sb, burize, bkb, skadi and AC, and cold snap alacrity is his friend, it was fun seeing him melting the opponents, just that us supports have to play all the fat heroes

  • @kuro91000
    @kuro91000 Рік тому +13

    1. Watch this video
    2. Gets hype
    3. Find match
    4. Feed
    5. Get reported
    This is me every time DATOHLEONG post a new video.

  • @danver555
    @danver555 Рік тому

    This is crazy! ^^ Im gonna try this build rn

  • @onixforrealnow
    @onixforrealnow Місяць тому

    10:40 that chess simp collab is crazy

  • @haihi877
    @haihi877 Рік тому +10

    I don't know who you are but your vids keep showing and I always click every single one of em.
    Not only you're entertaining to watch, you're actually very good at the game.
    +1 fan

  • @gamingpapajohn
    @gamingpapajohn Рік тому +2

    You deserve way more than 95k subs dude.

  • @rifwann
    @rifwann Рік тому +2

    This is how i play it first time, its morphling but simpler.. i was afraid to do it again due to the pubs expectation.

  • @lukestclairmaitland3003
    @lukestclairmaitland3003 Рік тому +7

    I had very little success with your SF offlane idea, but im 2-0 so far with this build with most hero dmg both games. 500 games on invo is also helping ;D

  • @Philosjutsu
    @Philosjutsu Рік тому

    I remember using this a long time ago. I remember using Eul's to shore up the combo and give bonus move speed for regen. I tell people invoker can basically play any role. Noobs don't know.

  • @Moins
    @Moins Рік тому

    Great content, keep it up

  • @laiaa9178
    @laiaa9178 Рік тому +2

    10 games later
    -2k behavior score

  • @nathan2964
    @nathan2964 Рік тому +2

    Now im inspired to play pos1 invoker in my ranks and ruin my team’s day :)))) tnx for the content

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Рік тому

      nOOO its play to win! 😅

    • @nathan2964
      @nathan2964 Рік тому

      @@datohleonggez bro the problem is, not every player has the same lvl of game skills you have to win these games XD
      But yeah I understand ure doing it for content. Im a fan!

  • @mrsmile5009
    @mrsmile5009 Рік тому

    Ah yes, the good old invoker, magician on steroids.

  • @teddyfot692
    @teddyfot692 Рік тому +3

    long time fan here, datoleong have you tried boots of bearing? its perfect with certain matchup on invoker + synergy with forge spirit. You should check it out with enemies who likes to slow

  • @azy3929
    @azy3929 Рік тому +1

    Good guide on voker

  • @JohnSancti
    @JohnSancti Рік тому

    7:58 when you wololoo enemy Tusk and is your side now...

  • @aysargha
    @aysargha Рік тому

    nice plays. commenting for the algorithm

  • @jacktruong7151
    @jacktruong7151 Рік тому

    Very entertaining to watch, just don't let my future teammates see this xD

  • @ciddhere
    @ciddhere Рік тому +1

    Wake up son, it's time for datohleong video

  • @raprap543
    @raprap543 Рік тому +2

    Just in time for that Invoker cache set, for me to start ruining ranked pubs

  • @jangofficial1571
    @jangofficial1571 Рік тому

    Right Click build is here..love it🤭

  • @alexmurraypreece7405
    @alexmurraypreece7405 Рік тому

    Well thanks for this I just had my invoker go 0-8 as pos1 in my game :D

  • @ursa81
    @ursa81 Рік тому

    Thanks for the video

  • @jiegs9363
    @jiegs9363 Рік тому

    SEA players watching this:
    Write that down, write that down!

  • @pSyberGamin
    @pSyberGamin Рік тому

    Whats your take on witch blade? It provides mana att speed and works well with cold snap

  • @Troubledsham
    @Troubledsham Рік тому

    Very cool drow ranger build.

  • @kei5149
    @kei5149 Рік тому

    cant wait to see this on my pubs

  • @lolmoe
    @lolmoe Рік тому

    Right click invoker is underrated. His physical attacks hurt so much with just the alacrity and forged spirits.

  • @snowyowlgaming6690
    @snowyowlgaming6690 Рік тому

    last game was great one. I watched every single sec.

  • @jcl1ent
    @jcl1ent Рік тому +1

    Okay here we go!!!

  • @towfuuu
    @towfuuu Рік тому

    this is good content ! xD

  • @wyvern5400
    @wyvern5400 Рік тому

    imagine if Mask of madness doesnt silence the user like years ago, my calendar would go back to the first dota days lmao

  • @sorenyuki9303
    @sorenyuki9303 Рік тому

    I watched this for guilty pleasure.

  • @Bastawesy
    @Bastawesy Рік тому

    Finally I was getting bored playing invoker normally

  • @CultKosmosa
    @CultKosmosa Рік тому +1

    thank god there are subtitles

  • @krstffrtejada6025
    @krstffrtejada6025 Рік тому

    Still thanking for the meepo strat 💕 playing over a years. And now this 😈

  • @loz1610
    @loz1610 Рік тому +2

    People will just straight throw or tilted when they see unfamiliar hero in some certain role.
    You will lose a lot. And thats not because hero is not good but the people are just too closed-minded.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Рік тому +1

      that use to happen but recently i don't get many pubs cry about hero picks. mayb because a lot of heroes are slowly getting figured out to play differently, it becomes more accepting? idk

  • @orangoon1
    @orangoon1 Рік тому

    Yea dude whenever I went into exort I always thought like it's a waste building into spell heavy items with all these right clicks

  • @rize8393
    @rize8393 Рік тому

    this is really very interesting

  • @delmoneto
    @delmoneto Рік тому

    OMG THANK YOU! O always have a fucking invoker in my team making my game hell, mid, sup 4,5, offlane, and now im going to have a fucking CARRY INVOKER, THANK YOU SIR

  • @K1NNN
    @K1NNN Рік тому +1

    Do you play pos 4 earth spirit?

  • @whalehacker2431
    @whalehacker2431 Рік тому +2

    this was made in herald unranked dont try yourself at home

  • @chynarasan9924
    @chynarasan9924 Рік тому

    time to watch my team doing similar thing but with rapier feed

  • @filteroxic
    @filteroxic Рік тому

    13:08 me too bro . . . me too

  • @thisisjeff2817
    @thisisjeff2817 Рік тому +1

    i remember dota 1 AI invoker use manta and deso

  • @nowalk7590
    @nowalk7590 Рік тому

    LET'S GOOOOO!!! NEW DATOH VIDEO!!

  • @walkhardwalk
    @walkhardwalk Рік тому

    team dk/burning ran safelane invo back in the days, I don't know why it was never used in tournaments again

  • @mrlicht2454
    @mrlicht2454 Рік тому

    Im doing this build way back when playing dota 1

  • @hardn8251
    @hardn8251 Рік тому

    Remind me the old auto attack invoker during Dota 1 era

  • @Andytlp
    @Andytlp Рік тому +1

    this is a more advanced sf pos 1 and not as easy to pull off. Although just alacrity, forge spirits and cold snap can work in low pubs

  • @SomeKrazyDude4
    @SomeKrazyDude4 Рік тому +1

    Dude you are so good 🙂

  • @moonyou.
    @moonyou. Рік тому

    datohleong ,i hope to see a '10 plays you missed at the TI 11 Finals' or something like that soon. I hope u read my comment as i really enjoy ur content.💕

  • @toshiiscrazy
    @toshiiscrazy Рік тому +1

    Okay, back to playing.

  • @aouka6060
    @aouka6060 Рік тому

    you miss the desolator, im often used this kind of build AND YES wit this build i met am with black mail

  • @krozilow
    @krozilow Рік тому

    when i play dota 1 using invoker, i just using alacrity coldsnap and forgespirit, and early item is midas dominator pt, coz dominator in dota 1 give 20damage and lifesteal

  • @pisonetcoin5012
    @pisonetcoin5012 Рік тому

    I wanna see you play Weaver pos 1.

  • @Crixxtachi868
    @Crixxtachi868 Рік тому

    Would adding wraith pact be a good move too?

  • @potpot439
    @potpot439 Рік тому +1

    Wouldn't wraith band instead of null talisman also be an option(like depending who you lane against? i mean voker has already pretty decent rightclick damage, and the asp bonus and the armor from wb might be usefull for him if he has to sustain alot of physical damage harrass, especially against armor reduction, or controlled units or something. Just food for thought.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Рік тому +7

      i tried before, wraith band right clicks are stronger but usually get run down when I don't have enough mana to fight back, 1 null usually gives enough mana for early fights.(I could ice wall + sunstrike + cold snap + forge + occasionally meteor) i compared both builds and having mana is more valuable than having slightly more attack speed/right clicks

    • @potpot439
      @potpot439 Рік тому

      ​@@datohleonggez Oh alright then, great build anyways :D I'd try it if i wouldn't have quit dota a few weeks ago haha

  • @kazazaky2397
    @kazazaky2397 Рік тому

    Its just too bad i can't PLay Invoker XD ,Good play as always man

  • @darkdemon1676
    @darkdemon1676 Рік тому +4

    Datohleong wey is at revelation level, nota mere way.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Рік тому

      i like to find new ways to play old heroes

  • @Serfdomftw
    @Serfdomftw Рік тому

    Instead of getting falcon get urn, similar mana regen and stats, but gives urn effect that combo with coldsnap.

  • @johnbryandelacruz3200
    @johnbryandelacruz3200 Рік тому

    not only invoker tho but any hero u can use core items just like dota 1

  • @DevilPissedOff
    @DevilPissedOff Рік тому

    The only problem I have with many of your strats, is that I don´t play as well as you xD. Don´t think i can pull them of. Nice video though

  • @fortunatogordube5277
    @fortunatogordube5277 Рік тому

    my old style invoker euls build wont work anymore???

  • @jassonsatria7737
    @jassonsatria7737 Рік тому

    at 4:38 u also got bonus attack speed from drow ult right?

  • @tomato2699
    @tomato2699 Рік тому

    im going to try this at unranked :D

  • @winkythepooh
    @winkythepooh Рік тому +1

    may i ask a genuine question? in this build, is witchblade not better? seems like this build wants to fight more as a carry rather than sitting on jungle farming?
    this video is very fun might try to improve my invo skills and try it out sometime.

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Рік тому +1

      witch blade is commonly seen on mid, my idea is the have lance eventually become pike for more mobility. then most items are build to carry late game. high physical burst can melt buildings/rosh and scale, the rest of the items are build to be really tanky so i can stand my ground and fight

  • @Klimbo93
    @Klimbo93 Рік тому

    i mean cool, but most times the hero doesnt shine by itself
    the build works cause you get tuskm legion and marci to buff you hard time, while pulling everyone's attention

  • @madaabdo1700
    @madaabdo1700 Рік тому

    I promise i will try this

  • @Hung4086
    @Hung4086 Рік тому +1

    That's me in the video

  • @Gibren
    @Gibren 8 місяців тому

    "in front of their friends and family" 💀💀💀💀

  • @ApexFungi
    @ApexFungi Рік тому +1

    i hal also being asking higher rank players why nobody use invo spells as utility not as main dmg deal.
    Thank you for this.

  • @paperstars9078
    @paperstars9078 Рік тому +2

    can you make support alchemist work, maybe with 3 venge? Also carry/offlane maiden? her lvl2 is insanely strong!

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Рік тому +2

      ye i think support alche is possible

    • @paperstars9078
      @paperstars9078 Рік тому +1

      @@datohleonggez I have given this some thought, and I think a reasonable goal is to have the enemy be so afraid of you that you can just hide in the trees/to the side of the lane and the enemy is to afraid to even pull aggro.
      I learnt that most of the time a slow is enough, because keeping enemies in acid longer is really strong. Your other hero needs to be somewhat tanky or you have to be very careful with them(venge/cm are strong but might die too quickly)
      A strong aghanim hero on your lane doesnt matter because chances are mid or carry will have a strong aghanim upgrade.
      You always want to get blink before aghanims since it allows you to stay relevant for a really long time.
      Basi + Mana boots into wraithpact is very playable although you might not get as many kills so it might not be as much fun(but still very fun)
      It doesn't really matter if the enemies have high armor, it only matters if they can avoid the stun.

  • @oliverorito1118
    @oliverorito1118 Рік тому +3

    New video. I like

  • @aadishankar3474
    @aadishankar3474 Рік тому

    i wish i can play voker like this

  • @Bixmy
    @Bixmy 8 місяців тому

    Funnily enough valve decided to make him hit way harder so this become a mainstream build now.

  • @VongolaSekundes
    @VongolaSekundes Рік тому

    could we replace the daedelus with bloodthorne? which is better?

  • @ReSV1
    @ReSV1 Рік тому +2

    Was wondering why not Revenant's Brooch as well for invoker. Since it also deal damage and give slow for 4 secs

    • @datohleonggez
      @datohleonggez  Рік тому +1

      because i wanna build high physical burst + tank. can't get one shotted as a carry so most items are build to stand my ground and fight

    • @ReSV1
      @ReSV1 Рік тому

      @@datohleonggez Seen Topson playing that build as a right-click DPS similar to your style of play, but he went Brooch and Bloodthorn instead of the pure physical DPS like yours. Wondering if there is any difference

  • @2ragso
    @2ragso Рік тому

    I send this to my injoker friend.. hope he learns sum xD

  • @GameSplained
    @GameSplained Рік тому

    Invoker Attack Range/animation is nuts as well as the quas exort abuse. Ive seen ppl do this but it literally will not work in 4k lower due to the mentality of the trench goers.

  • @xddesho
    @xddesho Рік тому

    Perfectly applied but still undoable in
    my part XDDDD

  • @dsr3b
    @dsr3b Рік тому

    I used to do this alacrity build with madness and malevolence. It was pretty nuts. Really high dmg. Glass cannon tho.

  • @itzbrilliant8386
    @itzbrilliant8386 Рік тому

    Bei solchen Themen frage ich mich immer ob man nicht in der falschen Zeit geboren ist.
    Wir sind zu spät geboren um die unentdeckten Orte der Erde zu entdecken, aber zu früh geboren um das Weltall zu erkunden. In 1000 Jahren könnte die Venus bewohnbar sein oder in 100 Jahren vielleicht die erste Stadt auf dem Mars stehen. Doch mit Blick auf die Informatik denke ich, dass wir genau in der richtigen Zeit leben.
    Wir bekommen gerade hautnah die Technologiesierung unserer Erde mit. Und nicht nur das. Laut Prognosen werden wir miterleben, dass die Intelligenz von KI die der Menschen übertrumpfen wird. Wenn das nicht unglaublich spannend ist, weiß ich auch nicht weiter :D
    Wir leben nicht in der falschen Zeit, wir müssen einfach nach Genialität ausschau halten... Genialität, die wir zu häufig einfach mit Alltag verwechseln!
    Jede Zeit ist spannend!